I have argued, forcefully, against online dating as anything more than a hobbyist supplement to meat space seduction.
Online dating is a parched desert of beta male thirst and ego-stroked plain janes. Strike one.
Online dating weaponizes female hypergamy, where 80/20 (less generously, 90/10) is the law of the land. Strike two.
Online dating emphasizes crude male SMV metrics such as height, at the expense of equally enticing male SMV criteria such as charm, body language, and social dominance. Strike three.
Online dating in the Current Year selects for BPD women and coalburners, who can be good pump and dump material but not viable LTR candidates. You’re out!
Play around with online dating, but don’t lean on it to fill your pussy platter.
Don’t expect much, especially now, because online dating is converged and The Woke are turning it into a hypergamous funhouse where men have no leverage and women enjoy all the benefits. To wit, Tinder is adding height verification for men.*
I’m sure female weight, age, and N count verifications will be added soon. /rhetorical
Online dating is only going to get worse for men. My advice to men is to get off your phones and hit the streets, bars, clubs, etc. Old school is coming back.
Doug gives the best advice for under-90th percentile men who insist on squeezing the last bit of sour juice from the online dating lemon rind,
Just lie and turn on the charm when you meet.
Men can get away with blatant, easily exposed lies, because they have the possibility of winning women over with their confidence and jerk na sais quoi. A man who lied up about his height online can expertly reframe the initial meat space awkwardness and win the girl over, but a girl who lied down about her weight will never reframe a man’s turtling cock into a boner for her.
I’ll leave this post with a fantastic comment on this topic, by J. Y.,
Only 13% of men are 6′ tall or greater. And in online dating sites, men under 6′ tall are LITERALLY invisible to women, because nearly all women use selection criteria that excludes 87% of men.
This means online dating is a waste of time, money, effort etc for any man under 6′ tall unless he’s on a millionaire dating site.
Therefore, with the notable exception of the one dating site I support, men under 6′ tall and with a net worth under $1M should ABANDON dating sites altogether.
However, @AnonymousFred514 brought up an important addendum: being over 6′ tall and therefore at least *visible* to women on dating sites does NOT mean you will be treated with basic human decency, or even meet women suitable for relationships.
So this brings me to my point. Men need to develop themselves to be their best and approach women IN PERSON.
I know this is not easy and I know rejection will happen — but it is the only way. And it WORKS. It has worked for thousands of years.
Don’t cringe at the word “develop.” The only reason we still exist is because for thousands of years men just being what they naturally were … WORKED. A LOT of this “development” is really UNlearning bullshit, propaganda and brainwashing.
Yes, by all means, drop extra lard, don’t run up debts, get regular physical exercise and stop swilling garbage. Reorient from consumerism to self-sufficiency and a future orientation. Dress decently (not metrosexually) — clean clothes that fit properly. But these were in fact the natural state of things not long ago. Once you make the transition, maintaining that will be easy.
I’m one of the Amorati — a graduate of the Ars Amorata program, during which you literally approach over 100 women as part of your training. (You can get an overview in the book “The Alabaster Girl.”)
I’m not here to shill for that particular program. Read @rooshv (Game, Lady), read @Heartiste , even read Simon Sheppard (heretical.com) or Athol Kay (married man sex life primer) and wrap your mind around the essentials of male-female interaction and UNLEARN all the bullshit and lies you’ve been taught about “what women want.”
A woman wants a man. Anything else is a deliberate perversion of her desires by artificial means. But at her core, her instinct is to want a man who is masculine.
And the KEY to bypassing tons of garbage is for you, as a man, to BE what nature made you to be, and to stand right in front of a woman, hold her gaze, and invite her to join you.
“Develop yourself as a man” is another way to say “Game”.
Oh sure, there’s more. If you can swing a splitter and chop wood for five hours, you’re more mentally, physically, and yes emotionally developed than 90% of American men.
But there’s nothing quite like the ROI of Game.
De-betafication will be the story of the 21st Century, which is another way to say (cribbing PA), Identity, not Ideology, is the future. Men need to reacquaint themselves with their long-dormant masculine identity.
*Possibly this is an April Fools’ joke by Tinder, but the advice stands. All trends are pointing toward online dating becoming less useful to men.
>De-betafication
Then America turns into Africa and guys like you die heartiste. What easier way to prove what a chad I am by killing the current chads? jej.
[CH: don’t make the reductio ad absurdum the enemy of the good. there is such a thing as too much betatude and too little masculinity, and the White West is soaking in it.]
LikeLike
CH, your half measures may have been good enough 20 years ago but now the only answer is to dehumanize yourself and face the bloodshed. You act like there is a political solution. Where is the wall? Any day now! jej.
LikeLike
No, my friend. The answer to being civilized is being an animal AND more than an animal. We have been talked out of our animal superiority. Field work and its byproduct inner game will square that shit away.
LikeLiked by 3 people
Lol so this must explain why I banged 7 chicks in like 10 days online…I went 8/10 during that stretch. Bc it doesn’t work…lol
I’m 6′ on the nose so maybe that’s my excuse. Just being 6′ is enough…you just show up and be 6′ and chicks fuck you.
Game is lame…be a real man by doing real man shit…that’s what I do. It works.
LikeLike
“Lol so this must explain why I banged 7 chicks in like 10 days online…I went 8/10 during that stretch. Bc it doesn’t work…lol”
I don’t believe you. Or… I believe you but you are slumming through purple poosay and fatties which wouldn’t be surprising. OR you are a really handsome motherfucker like top 10th percentile.
Being not a bad looking chap myself at my -peak- of online dating I was not getting a 70% ROI and if you look at any website that tracks these metrics you will see that nobody does.
So are you Brad Pitt’s younger brother, a hamplanet fucker, or full of shit? Lemme know…
LikeLiked by 4 people
No it just means r@pe is ok now because muh equality and wahmin cannot be considered physically inferior so C0Nsent becomes pointless because by default such C0Nsent and muh victimhood means wahmin are not equal.
NPC – (((loading….loading….there was an error in generating a response. Contact your local j00 for assistance)))
LikeLiked by 1 person
Dr.trav the poser
LikeLike
Jay in DC:
So are you Brad Pitt’s younger brother, a hamplanet fucker, or full of shit?
You forgot one possibility: Mr. T found a dating site or app that specializes in female niggers seeking allegedly donkey-sized Huwite cock (matched with ‘roid-shrunk balls). There, he would be swimming in ape pussy: Not many White men will so degrade themselves as to touch a nigger, let alone swap fluids with it! Ŕoṕe.
LikeLiked by 1 person
You must have a secret online site. Assuming you are in the US, even finding 7 that met the minimum qualifications to be bangable would be a struggle. Contacting them, getting them to reply, setting up the bang, all with not much flakiness along the way and all within 10 days…
LikeLiked by 1 person
I will assign the highest probability to Jay’s theory called “full of shit”. There must be a reason why trav has always been so eager to call “didn’t happen!!!11” on stories that he lacked adequate reading comprehension to even understand. Bułłşḩitters tend to gratuitously accuse others of dishonesty, so as to cover for their own insecurity in telling tall tales.
LikeLike
I believe Trav. I am quite successful in real life and I get Trav’s vibe on here.
The golden rule is ngaf.
And push the envelope.
Even today i stammered a question to a girl. I had to stop the self criticism and remind myself ‘who cares’
I steadied myself and she came back with wine suggestions.
I also found success breeds success.
I make the effort with one girl.. if it fails…another girl gives me an opening.
Nature loves a trier.
Then once you get a few successes, it leads to more as women can smell the confidence.
I’m 5′ 10″. Rarely did online. I’d recommend sugar babies to get your flow going as practice if you’re starting off.
Now I’m in a cant be bothered mode / juice ain’t worth the squeeze.
Women are idiots and my mind has to be in the mood for their bullshit
LikeLiked by 1 person
Field work is for slaves and serfs.
And game is what we shoot during grouse season.
LikeLike
Mr. T couldn’t get laid in a Mindanao monkey girl whorehouse with a pocketful of benjamins.
LikeLike
Bengay, you are one bitter kunt.
LikeLike
They don’t call him TravBlackvaj for nothin’.
LikeLike
Great comment by JY
And I had read that Tinder was doing that as an April Fools’ joke. They were probably A/B testing this “joke” to see if it had promise.
LikeLike
That Kojak meme is somehow reassuring to me. When I stare at it my black pill fog lifts. I wish real life had real men worth befriending. I don’t even remember the guy’s name or lived values. Maybe it’s old school charisma, not being daily assaulted by Critical Theory skanks. That meme works better for me than Jebus, just saying.
LikeLike
I’m 5’10-5’11” but always say 6 feet
Never been called on it. Women aren’t sharp enough to see the difference.
LikeLike
More bullshit from the mutt.
How does your height fluctuate? You wearing heels?
LikeLiked by 1 person
Running 10 spoof accounts to harass grown men in a comment section sounds pretty manlet.
LikeLiked by 1 person
INDY (and all his socks) = 85 IQ retard
LikeLike
Hey, I was the man who caught INDY sockpuppeteering—and that only happened so easily, because he made mistakes that an experienced sockfag would not make.
When I see shit like this, I sort of regret that I said anything. Especially when it gives an opening for snipes from someone about whom Greg Eliot recently pointed out something suspicious.
[Take 3; the remainder of this comment is cut due, to (((WP))) repeatedly discarding it over the past few hours.]
LikeLike
The computer*
I hide nothing. I used the same fake email for three accounts.
And looch doesn’t snipe. Looch is packing a pellet gun.
LikeLiked by 1 person
“I hide nothing.” Well, INDY, that is the type of aẗẗitude that Jews, niggers, mestizos, and criḿinal-class “Jukes” týpes óf huwites would all snëër at as stûpiđly Âryan. You śquare fûcking “śtraight”! You’ve ǵotta łie, çheat, and sţeal to
gêt aḩeadẗroll ón tḩe Inteŕnet.Of couŕse, you aŕe coŕŕect about tḩe pełłet gûn—the saḿe one ţḩat Looch muśt uśe to ṕlay “el sicario” (‘the hiŧman’, a meśtizo ḑruǵ ¢aŕteł ŧerm) on tħe Inŧernet. The ṕart of the comḿent that Î cuŧ eẍplicaŧed on ŧħe conneẍion of ḩis scrêên naḿe with his avaŧar in ħis cuŕŕent “iŧeraŧion”—the “iŧeraŧion” ŧħat śeemş to ħave sŧarted afŧer śomeoņe comṕuted the faǵǵoŧry quoŧieńt of the ścreeņ naḿe “Pretty Boy”.
Êvidenŧly, (((WP))) disłiked that ḑîścussion. It is a ħośŧile comṕuter, fiǵhting fôr tħe (((otħer siðe))). Ŕoboţ ẃars!
[FSCK M0D]
LikeLike
When it comes to Mod vs. Deep Blue, my money is on the chess master PC.
Oh yah, GE has green hair and DavidFrenchOnionSoup. that makes five.
LikeLike
“Running 10 spoof accounts to harass grown men in a comment section sounds pretty manlet.”
Well, if that ain’t the moops calling the kettle black.
You don’t even know how tall you are. Hedging out of fear of Deep Blue?
LikeLiked by 1 person
No shit, Looch. I’ve always wondered how a 5’0″ woman who insists on OLD upon men being a foot or more taller than her can tell the fucking difference when she’s horizontal with a man who’s only 5’10”.
LikeLike
It’s not an argument when you are right, CH.
There’s absolutely no reason for the whyte youth of today to do dating apps into their 20’s. They need to get out there at an early age, talk to people, develop their style, lift, and learn how to gauge things at 12, 13, 14. This means talk to janitors, hostesses, waitstaff, mailmen, kiosk workers, everyone you come into contact with, whatever their race. They cannot afford to isolate themselves in the beginning because they are handicapping themselves.
They need to have a broad spectrum of how to understand, deal with, and manipulate everyone they come into contact with in reel time. It’s not gonna work 100% of the time even after they have learned the basics. After they have a modicum of amused mastery, only then can they put the Proximity + Diversity (earned, never given) knowledge into action.
These are the fundamentals of Game. And you can learn most of them here, grasshoppers.
LikeLike
women are social herd animals…conformists
they don’t wanna meet in person anymore bc ewww who DOES that? I’ve already talked about this
LikeLiked by 2 people
You gotta expound on this.
We need moar empiricals & your best guess as to WTF is happening.
[Something is rubbing that c1it & that g-sp0t, unless the chardonnay & the SSRIs are just completely obliterating the sexua1 des!re.]
LikeLike
Trav is right and wrong about this. The trend is online. No question. That said, I’ve still met plenty of chicks at parks, grocery stores, and bars. Hell, last summer I had a 25 yo approach me at the grocery store. I’d give her standard issue cute, sorority party girl blonde chick but not scorching hot.
I have no idea how Trav posts the numbers he does. It badly outstrips mine.
Years ago I tried to track it (now I consider stat-keeping the equivalent of fantasy afroball – at best.) I got just over 10% of the chicks I hit on in my best month. Typically it was 5-7%. That means every time I hit on a chick, even if I’m having an incredible month, there’s a 90% chance I won’t get the number, broad will flake, date but no bang, or outright rejection.
While I’m not Pitt, it’s not a stretch that to say I’m top 20%. Couple years ago I tested my pics on photo feeler before posting them and never got below 85%.
(and no I was not posting pics with dogs or any other faggy crap)
I quit bumble after getting kicked off (put no mud sharks in my bio.) Haven’t been back on and haven’t missed it.
“Game” has become an arms race and nearly irrelevant. Looks, status, money, actually being a man. That’s it. Somewhere way down that list is how quick, funny, smooth, how much “game” you have.
Here’s the good news. Volume solves a lot of this. Hit on 3 chicks per day as they pop up in your normal life for 1 month. It will break any dry spell you have. Guaranteed. You will go on at least one date and very well may get some pussaaayyy.
LikeLiked by 1 person
@CO- you want data? I’ll give it to you. My biz partner is 31, and a straight up 5. Many chicks I have shown his picture to actually recoil. He is not attractive. Let’s give him a 6 because he is in shape. He works with what he has. He’s also Ivy League edumacated and has a pretty ballin’ pad on the upper west side.
He cannot do online. CANNOT. Zero matches.
His last bang came a couple months ago. He tracks this stuff even though I told him it’s irrelevant and spergy. It took him between 165-185 approaches to get that bang.
He went out with a swimsuit model looking PR chick last night. And he has some big boobied blonde lined up for tonight.
Guys will shit on him for his ROI. I don’t. I applaud him for it. He doesn’t bitch or whine. He maxes out his looks such as they are, makes the move, and ultimately bangs the chicks he wants.
He doesn’t care that it takes work to get there.
Glad you’re all my bros.
FE
LikeLiked by 2 people
FE, trav has this new theory concerning how yuge numbers of chicks don’t want to meet in Meatspace anymoar.
A week or two ago, I tried to get details, but I didn’t come away from it fully understanding what he was talking about.
LikeLike
Read Trav’s posts here. Hes a cunt. Cocky, in your face, bravado, doesnt sugar coat it, dgaf… that’s the attitude that works
In my approach days I was on such a roll I’d dress up like a bun and approach
Look we are on here. CH is bigger and better than clown world idiots.
Dont treat these cunty women with respect or fear or be in awe
LikeLike
And my failure was reading the ‘ be alpha aloof ‘ bullshit and stop ‘beta rage’
Talk slow etc
Never worked for me
I found women love rage and violent talk
Lose your head
We should be angry. The west is collapsing.
Be in her face…talk fast…take her on a rollercoaster ride…push pull…
Women have told me they love it
Be angry…I always say ‘I’m gonna punch his face in’ about the server or anyone
LikeLike
A great many women online are lying about one thing or another, especially the big two: weight and age. Those not lying, and who are in the top 20%, are literally getting a couple hundred messages a day.
Offline, in meat space, you can easily avoid these losers and not waste valuable life on chasing them. And, like CH states, use your other (hopefully existing and developed) attributes to your best advantage: charm, wit, humor, cleanliness of appearance, fit figure, etc. Internet dating is poison, just like most social media sites.
LikeLike
they don’t wanna meet in person anymore bc ewww who DOES that?
fool believes what women say and not watch what they do…
what they say about online is irrelevant, in the real world, her biochemistry is in play and it cannot help itself. Attraction is attraction and arousal is arousal.
Know how to do those things, and you will be successful with women. FAIL to understand how to do those things, you are grasping at straws and will only lean on whatever the most recent crutch was (do cool shit!, Have a beard!, Buy her taglitelli!)…
LikeLike
If an online woman does not want to meet IRL, it is either because she is a fat liar, or because you are choice B, C, D….Z for her in the lineup of men she is interested in meeting. As such, either way, next her and get off (out of) the internet dating webs. Spring is here. Go sit outside a coffee shop on a nice day, facing the people coming in, and try giving a subtle smile a cute ladies coming in, and strike up conversations (with those willing to) around you (without being a weirdo pest, that is – hopefully you all know basic social cues as to when people are not interested in chatting).
LikeLike
I’ve been active on okjewpid sine 2012. I’ve sent hundreds of messages and got 5 one off dates out of it. One girl just happend to live at the end of my street, but was more interested in her career and traveling to 3rd world shit holes than having a boyfriend. No doubt online dating strokes their egos. One profile that I came across recently was that of a Jackie Chan faced Asian broad <5. In her profile she stated that she has gotten over 900 likes! No doubt she maxed out her message in box as well. I come across many profiles of “feminist”. These aren’t obese pink -haired types, but normal looking girls who wish to “dismantle the patriarchy.” Everyone of them believes that we care about their precious careers. If I keep coming across more profiles where in the first three sentences they mention how important their careers are, I’m going tie a rope around my nutsack with a cinder block at the other end a throw it off a bridge.
LikeLiked by 3 people
Better buy Travioli’s guidebook to pussy-slaying. He is getting a 70% ROI in just TEN days brah.
Nevermind that every single site that tracks these metrics over huge populations and many months show about 1% of guys doing that type of pull down. The secret you see is the pasta and the amount you pay for it… pro tip.
LikeLike
As they say in Real Estate, it’s location, location, location.
If I order a glass of bar white wine at the 21 Club I’m not just paying for the wine but the fact that it’s at one of the top bars in the world and any female there will be a top female.
LikeLike
They also seem to think that skydiving is a turn on for men. It ain’t.
LikeLiked by 2 people
I knew a j00ess who was a surgery resident & she told me that only c0caine could compete with the thrill of sky-diving.
It was a very early data point in my journey to realizing that all j00z are psych0paths.
LikeLiked by 2 people
They also seem to think that skydiving is a turn on for men. It ain’t.
LOL so true… this and wine, yoga, “true crime dramas”, tattoos, and of course the not mentioned, yet obligatory, anti-depressants and therapist
LikeLiked by 3 people
skydiving and…adventuring
they think it makes them seem fun but all i see is girls who are high maintenance thrill seekers who will exhaust you trying to keep them endlessly entertained to fill the black hole where their soul should be
LikeLiked by 4 people
It’s to show you (lie to you) about how really adventurous they are when they are not at home feeding their cats.
LikeLike
You will move on. This will help. https://realitydoug.wordpress.com/w2mpcl/
LikeLike
So, Fast Eddie, I’m just curious, what would you say are this friend of yours defects?
To get one hit with a 100 tries is pretty dismal.
LikeLike
There must be something that makes females reject this guy. Just being ordinary or even fugly looking is not enough to get a 99%+ rejection rate.
LikeLike
Really no glaring defects- and they’re not needed. He’s just not a good looking guy.
And I hesitate to even answer this question because most guys (probably 99%) just need to improve their looks as much as possible, be social, have fun with it, and make sure you’re evaluating their behavior as well as their looks. Don’t bang mud sharks, druggies, etc.
As regards my biz partner, he’s naturally unsure of himself. He consumed “game” advice for years. Only thing that helped him was throwing all of that away and actually hitting on chicks.
Most guys, even on this board, don’t want to hear that. People look for little cheat codes whether it’s diet, financial, or romantic success.
Based on the way guys communicate on this forum, I can only thing of one poster who needs actual “game” advice (if his posts are any indication of his personality in real life.) Everyone else just needs to take action.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Only thing that helped him was throwing all of that away and actually hitting on chicks.
The fuck is this? He followed “game” advice that said DON’T hit on chicks? That is literally impossible. Game is all about opening chicks, three second rule, sarging, etc.
Not buying it…
LikeLike
@Incontinent
You’re old af. I guarantee he pulls better tail than you do, and I know I do.
Now break out the bifocals. You’ve got a flow chart to read before you can talk to a broad.
LikeLike
Read R.Don Steele, and hit the ballroom circuit.
LikeLike
He’s some hillbilly, isn’t he? And you should have learned to dance when you were a kid at prep school.
And I’m really amazed reading these comments about geeks who can’t pick up a girl to bang. It’s the easiest thing in the world so I have to wonder how defective most of you are. Just stay within your class which I’d estimate as around a 3-5 girl and don’t have delusions of grandeur believing you’ll get an 8-10 because she’s way out of your league.
LikeLike
I’ve noticed that dating apps have deteriorated over even that last 3 or 4 years here in Oz. I used to be able to sift through the detritus to find the odd tasty morsel to get me across an occasional dry spell, but now the apps have been invaded by a titanic horde of wall crushed cat ladies, single mummy box-wine supping plumpers and snarky dried out shrews. I can literally flick for hours and not see anything worthy of a wink emoji.
LikeLiked by 5 people
Its typical for a wh1te knight society. A bunch of €ucks who do not realise that no one else cares about them, and everybody else is using them.
Western men are triple €ucks.
1. Pay for other women’s children/their divorced wives living with someone else (cucks).
2. Pay for non-white children replacing them (€ucks)
3. Die in 1sraeli wars (€ucks)
There are no bigger €ucks on the planet. Their own women attacking them is the logical end of it.
LikeLiked by 5 people
Speaking of lying about height, there was a poll on the Stormer the other day and around 50% of the respondents claimed that they were part of the “Over 6′ Tall Master Race.” 😉
Apparently, many chaps will lie about it even in the near-absence of brawds.
LikeLike
I think that says more about the demographic that Anglin attracts than anything else.
Note that I am speaking generally, in the sense of, “if the shoe fits…” I can see how some decent men could have been sucked in there, especially the younger ones. The paucity of options for a place to talk to others is perhaps the biggest factor. But nevertheless, it must be observed that Anglin’s style of propaganda seems deliberately calculated to attract the dregs who want to play “Over 6′ Tall Master Race” on the Internet. Evidently, by his own poll, they constitute half his readership!
LikeLike
Half? More like 99%
LikeLike
Dr.Benway, please note my sardonic use of redoubled qualifiers: “Evidently, by his own poll, they constitute half his readership!”
If I wanted to state my real opinion of Anglin and Dailystormer—as I have before—then I wouldn’t attach that to a comment by a man whom I presume to be in the 1% that gives the other 99% a good name.
I was simply remarking on the selection bias of that poll: It is not “many chaps” who will lie about their height “even in the near-absence of brawds”. It is many DS readers. Don’t pin that on men generally, lest I be ashamed to be a man! “White Sharia” DS attracts droves of bitter-incel wannabe manlets who embody the feminist, misandrist caricature of a “man”. Ipso facto, most “chaps” who are actually capable of getting laid will not lie about their height in an online poll!
LikeLike
Yes. This. Meatspace or nothin’.
And as if online dating wasn’t bad enough, attractive women have abandoned it almost entirely for the parallel and opposite reason we have — the creepy attention from gammas, omegas, and Third Worlders really does put them off, and only take men seriously who approach them in person.
LikeLiked by 4 people
this is true
even if you can get a girl from a dating site, you’re a dumbass for wasting your time on her. they are the most broken of women
the only girls on those sites are the ones who are attention whores who love juggling multiple beta orbiters because they need constant attention and ego boosts.
mentally healthy attractive women don’t need or want that
LikeLiked by 1 person
On mental and physical development:
Work legs twice a week. One heavy day, one moderately heavy day.
I’m seeing excellent results. Yes, it’s hard, and that’s exactly the reason you’re going to start doing it.
LikeLike
Squats are metaphor for life.
LikeLike
Sounds gay to me.
LikeLike
Squats make you think of anal sex?
LikeLike
These gym boys are always looking at the pics in Muscle Man magazine. Hmmm
LikeLike
I see.
LikeLike
None of this will help you walk up to a girl and talk to her and take her home….
LikeLike
Thanks for the pro tip, old timer.
LikeLike
Since you’re awake before noon.
I’ve told the last two girls I’ve met I’m looking to have children, that I want a large family (like Tucker’s). I’ve tested this out because I’m not looking to BS anymore. A young fertile womb is of prime importance to me.
How many game rules am I violating here?
There’s a young yoga teacher at my gym, 23-24, solid 8. I chatted her up yesterday. When I asked for her name she was surprised commenting that no one in the gym ever asks for her name. On Monday I’m gonna chat her up again and ask her to either hang or get a workout in.
WWSD??
LikeLike
Browsing online dating profiles also makes it easier to spot Jewesses. You’ll notice their facial features long before you read their “about me” section. They range from the stereotypical hooked nosed, dark eyed shark faced to ones that could pass for gentile. Even those after a second look you can tell they’re tribe.
LikeLike
It’s more than 87%. Unless you are a millionaire or play in the NBA women sort for 6′ or taller and less than some other arbitrary height. 6’3″ seems to be the popular upper bound. Also a foot taller than her seems beyond the acceptable limit for most. Or was years ago when I did my experiments.
Way back when there were some sites where one could avoid mentioning height so I didn’t. I would get a decent response rate, and be asked one question inquiring about my height. I would answer and then be told each time I was too tall. Some of these women had a height range of 1″ they would filter for.
There are exceptions to the upper bound rule, but I came to the conclusion that most have one.
LikeLike
More retreaded recycled advice. Roosh is the real thot leader in this area and concluded years ago that the Game well was quickly running dry and achieving diminishing returns.
Problem is the overabundance of males available who meet the minimum criteria for those super-selective whamens, and are willing to do whatever it takes to secure the poon, including throwing their brothers under the bus. It will never end and womanz will adapt to any perfection of game techniques.
A few of you might succeed and lap up the scraps offered up by well-pounded and tenderized roast-beef-labia-wielding and tatted up, pierced sluts.
The usual answer is that the issue will only resolve itself when hundreds of millions of men perish in the coming world wars. The news is not all bad, as the newest, youngest GenZ twat-nut – you can’t have missed them – everywhere sporting insane wild 3ft manes of hair, thin, smooth skin with zero tats, will likely survive in large numbers, rebelling against the previous Millennial monster’s ball, embracing femininity with gusto, and carry the next generation of champions. Though those champions might have darker skin than you assume…
Izz called: “Battle for the Planet of the Apes”.
LikeLike
“The usual answer is that the issue will only resolve itself when hundreds of millions of men perish in the coming world wars.”
Bring the cleansing fire then.
LikeLiked by 1 person
The level of dysfunction you describe is largely limited to the US and the Anglosphere. Yet another problem to be resolved by the violent destruction of the USA. At a certain point the black pill becomes white and we can celebrate every misfortune that befalls America. This must be what it feels like to be a leftist.
LikeLiked by 1 person
the Game well was quickly running dry and achieving diminishing returns.
Well Roosh never had any game.
LikeLike
MEATSPACE, BABY!!!
LikeLike
that data that showed the difference between women having sex in a year vs men having it. really show the 80%-20% theory.
but, yes, when it comes to tinder it’s even further thing, like 90%-10%.
by the way, in my country, tinder, happn and the like are reaching a lower level based on girls looks. why? I find out that sugar daddy websites are becoming more popular than ever. sugar daddy is like prostitution, but more expensive
LikeLike
I have some problem with tinder: I look younger for my age. so girls that may be interesed if see me in person, they may not EVEN catch me on tinder because their age filter there is probably younger than that.
I’ve sometimes use all-ages filter just out of curiosity. and, man, it’s sad. so many soon-to-be dried eggs sloppy body career gurls
LikeLike
another thing, facebook’s out among younger people. nobody cares about it. what they ask now is your instagram… which is complicated.
why? it’s a mostly validation based-social network. you can’t even hide the number of your friends there, unlike faceberg. which if you’re not in high school and college you know what I mean.
LikeLiked by 1 person
We’re screwed if the only place to find women is bars, clubs and workplaces. I admit to absolute zero experience in the “dating market” such as it is, but if a man actually would like to find a woman with whom to share this life, all observation informs me that fishing in a bar, lounge or club is akin to fishing in a septic tank. Neither bar nor cesspool has even carp to hook.
Maybe I’m always missing the point. Maybe the West is already a headless chicken running and all that matters is a man getting his pole greased. But from my perspective, if my descendants have a 0.00001% chance of avoiding a descent-of-Man retrogression from tall/blond/blue-eyed to short/black/brown prehistory, the boys and girls better develop a venue to find actual MATES (neither of whom are short/black/brown) and do so before the communicable disease called Popular Culture causes them all to ruin themselves with embedded memories.
I guess it’s time to start a real church, or prepare to do so when the Poz Police fall apart enough to stop murdering any such in its infancy.
LikeLike
I’ve been out of the dating market for a decade and a half but going by observation, the scene is not good. My office is in a premium nightlife district and the revelers come out on Thursday and Friday evenings. The average early-twenties girl, if she’s not otherwise an upper class superficially assimilated brown or yellow, is a 5. As someone observed, the guys dont even look for a pretty face any more; her merely not-being-chunky lights up everyone’s radar.
On the other hand, girls in middle school and high school are no different than they were three decades ago, across ass (White) social classes. Too young for the single adult man to go after, but that’s where a teenage boy has to stake his claim: until we again have the social structures for healthy pairing and mrrge, the 17-year-old boy is best advised to knock up and wed his high school girlfriend if he has a good one, and have both sets of parents help financially.
— avoiding a descent-of-Man retrogression from tall/blond/blue-eyed to short/black/brown prehistory
Preventing that retrogression is the material purpose of man on Earth.
LikeLike
“across all (White) social classes” (heh, of all typos to make…)
LikeLike
We’re screwed if the only place to find women is bars, clubs and workplaces.
Girls are everywhere, they are the majority of the population. See girl – open your mouth – proceed from there…
LikeLiked by 1 person
Sounds like good advice to any young man (which doesn’t include me.) I did go back and read the linked column to this, the one about where people now meet to find love, and grasp a nuance I had previously missed.
There are obviously plenty of “social outing” places that aren’t just barstools topped with fatties who think they’re Supermodels. And obviously I agree wholeheartedly with PA, that proto-adults should be encouraged to get serious about partnership early, and not imbibe of the Friends (tv show) cyanide. Adolescence is supposed to be a BRIEF stage of life. It looks pathetic on people in their 20’s and up.
Instead of asking kids “what do you want to be when you grow up?” perhaps we might as them, before puberty nudges them toward deal-breaker behavior, what kind of life they wish to lead? Selling kids on the “common life” early, rather than waiting for the girls to be ruined by Pop Cult and the boys to learn to orbit them, might make more sense than waiting until the girls have Done Dallas and the boys think wearing pussy hats will land them a wife-to-be-mother worth having.
LikeLike
Girls are not the majority of the population. Actually boys are. Women become the majority after the age of 35.
LikeLike
Excellent advice. My advice, as someone who was terrible with women and had to learn to be good with them (thanks for being my bros), is to take an acting class. I took improv and public speaking classes because I used to be very shy. These classes will essentially teach you some tricks to get over yourself and not be nervous around people, and to think on your feet. Flirting with a women you have never met before is all improv anyways.
Sign up for co-ed sports leagues. The women might be dykes or not,but they have friends and it helps you meet people. I run a team and basically structure my team to be one girl short so I always need a sub. A girl willing to sub on a sports team she doesn’t know anyone on is looking for dick. Free tip.
I do very well in real life interactions with women because if I didn’t, I’d never get laid. I think I have one match all year on tinder so far. The women you meet at a grocery store are better though. CH is right on the BPD shit: why would an attractive women need online dating? It’s a clue to how damaged they are that they are even on there.
All my stalkers came from tinder or bumble. Stalkers get old very quickly. Stick to meat space boys. And best part of real life? Most of them have never heard the old routines.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I took an acting class in college to fulfill a Humanities credit and immediately fulfilled my personal requirement of seeing the best looking chick in class naked. In the land of fags and soyboys, the normal heterosexual man is king.
Provided you enjoy the activities, or they are tolerable; co-ed places are outstanding, yoga, bootcamps, Crossfit. And you get to examine the goods before you waste any game.
LikeLike
Broadly concur that OLD is shit for 87% of men.
As a short, mature, average looking dude (though fit, successful and charmingasfuck) I’ve dabbled in it a few times over the years. What I put into it was wildly disproportionate compared to what I got out it – entitled women, less attractive than their pics, that STILL shit-tested me over being 5’8″. Never received an unsolicited message excepting warpigs, and few responses to my witty messages.
I do massively, repeat, massively better in real life encounters than I ever did on OLD.
From the woman’s side, OLD is perhaps the greatest validation machine of all time. I have a female friend who’s pushing 60 that takes a very nice picture – she literally cannot read all of the messages she gets. And another, early 50’s, who’d I score as an HB4, and she gets amazing OLD attention.
OLD presents a sort of “choice paradox” that’s overwhelming to any halfway attractive woman, and their minimum standards soar to way above and beyond what would ordinarily prevail on the ground. For all but the apex men, it blows.
LikeLiked by 1 person
We just need to legalize prostitution.
LikeLike
Fucking online dating was bad enough, but apps. You get relegated to the same hundreds of niggers and street shitter – bobs and vagene pls – throw-away spam.
It’s totally uninspired, but, bars. For better or worse, it is one of the last places you can cold open a woman who is a complete stranger on the merit of game alone. Bars still have the social implication that you’re there to drink and speak with other human beings. Daygame is tough, but not impossible, you’ve got to Inception a chick into opening you.
At bars I still manage to get a number at least 70% of the time. Granted, a number is not pussy, but the value of bars is that you get to interact with people in general. It’s one of the last places where people aren’t hopelessly insulated from social interaction.
LikeLike
Yup hot the bars! Help the police propaganda their running out of DUIs they won’t give them to the girls! Good article!
LikeLike