CH, what is best in life?
To mock your enemies, see them driven to hysterics before you, and to hear the mooing of the fatties.
That is good!
You’re damn right that is good. This post will continue a proud tradition.
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If someone told me, “Hey, did you know fat women married to in-shape men have worse marriages?”, I would reply “Who doesn’t know that? A man married to a fat sow will be unhappy, and if he has options he’ll start looking elsewhere. Common sense.”
Well, unfortunately for those who are inclined to give the masses the benefit of the doubt, the world isn’t filled with sane people who trust their lying eyes or who grasp rudimentary logic. The world, especially the Western world currently 5,000 feet from terminal velocity impact, is filled with delusional dregs, ego-assuaging equalists, fantasy world feminists, and puling porkers. Great fun if you’re a psyche-smashing sadist; not so much fun for normal people living in post-sanity secular societies who inevitably wind up footing the bills for these loudmouthed ┬Ālosers.
Hot on the heels of, oh… ballpark estimate… one million previous CH posts about the penalties fat chicks suffer in the dating market and the personal health market (and now, the marriage durability market and happiness market), comes a new study which finds that fat wives of healthy-weight husbands have worse marriages.
Using dyadic models, we found that mixed-weight couples, specifically couples including overweight women and healthy weight men, reported greater conflict both generally and on a daily basis, compared to matched-weight couples; however, general conflict was reduced with greater perceived support from the partner. Mixed-weight couples who reported eating together more frequently also reported greater general conflict. These findings suggest that mixed-weight couples may experience more conflict than matched-weight couples, but perceived support from the partner can buffer this conflict. This research suggests that interpersonal dynamics associated with mixed-weight status might be important for romantic partnersŌĆÖ relational and personal health.
The researchers veer a bit into PC territory in their conclusion, so it will require a truly malevolent force to spell out the take-home lessons of this study in flashing neon lights that no one, not even hare-brained hogs, can possibly misinterpret.
Lesson Number One
Men are repulsed by the sight and feel (and smell) of fat chicks. All further lessons flow from this basic premise.
Lesson Number Two
A man with options to do so will choose a slender babe over a fat chick, EVERY TIME. (Rare exceptions prove the rule. Or: Don’t count on miracles, fatties.)
Lesson Number Three
A man married to a woman who has bloated into Hogzilla proportions will become increasingly unhappy, frustrated and resentful, and will express his displeasure with his fat wife in both passive and active ways.
Lesson Number Four
A fat wife is more harmful than is a fat husband to marital health and happiness.┬ĀFatness exacts a bigger toll on a woman’s sexual market value (and, therefore, marital market value) than it does on a man’s sexual and marital market value. Men are more visually oriented than women, and a fat man can compensate for his fatness by being attractive in other ways that women love. Fat women cannot compensate for their fatness except by losing weight and slimming down to a sexy, hourglass shape.
Lesson Number Five
Fat wives increase the odds of spousal adultery and marital dissolution. A wife who lets herself go on piles of cakes and cheesy poofs is primarily responsible for any infidelity her husband commits. Harsh, but true.
Lesson Number Six
A husband will be more likely to love, cherish and support his wife if she is thin. Life is conditional. Stop crying, and deal with it.
Lesson Number Seven
The cure for marital unhappiness and a lowering of the high risk of divorce among fat wife-healthy man couples is the fat wife losing weight until she has regained her attractive, slender, feminine shape. Marriage counselors will invariably bleat tired platitudes about “interpersonal dynamics”, “increasing perceived support”, and “unresolved masculinity issues”, and none of their solutions will work except to line their filthy pockets and┬Āturn wives against their husbands. They are worse than useless, because they lead women away from the one tried-and-true solution that *will* fix their marriages: losing weight.
Any questions? Or would you stubborn fatties and fatty apologists prefer the whistling lash upon your stuccoed hides a few more hundred thousand times?
I can already hear the trolls and transparently bad-faith skeptics.
“So fat women should marry fat men. Then all will be good!”
All will be good if you don’t mind living like the walking dead.
Mutually fat couples have no reason to rejoice. While thin husbands are more apt to distance themselves from fat wives, emotionally and sexually, fat husbands feel just as much frustration and resentment. Fat dudes are just as disgusted by fat chicks as are thin dudes. The difference is that fat husbands are less able to act out their frustrations without risking divorce rape and subsequent involuntary celibacy. A man who is forced by his lack of options to settle for a low quality woman will quickly acclimate himself to his dour circumstances, or suffer daily blows to his ego no man could withstand for long without the assistance of soothing psychological contrivances. The Acclimated Man (a subspecies of The Manipulated Man) will then become a simulacrum of the fox who cried sour grapes because he couldn’t grab the juicy fruit dangling just out of reach.
“I’m a thin woman reading CH for the rapturous tingles it inspires in my vaginal core, and all my (carefully screened) girl friends are thin, so how bad could this problem be?”
The Walking Fed
See here for an animated map going back to 1985. Gripping (gimping?) stuff.
“Fatness is genetic. Fat chicks can’t do anything about it.”
Bullshit on stilts. See above graph. There’s no way fat crappery can increase that much in a population of hundreds of millions in the span of 25 years by genetic selection alone. The best the “fat gene” crowd can argue is that most humans are wired to put on excess weight in an environment of plentiful sugar-rich, high glycemic index carb food and sedentary lifestyles. That isn’t the same as saying fat people have fat genes rendering them immune to efforts at long-term weight loss. What it means is that fatsos have to stop eating pastries and pasta, and start getting off their double wide asses and moving their limbs more than they do when reaching like an obese infant for a cookie on the kitchen countertop. The worst of them could begin their training by discarding the Walmart scooters for walking.
No fat gene hypothesis is needed to explain the growing army of lardbuckets and the shitty marriages they leave in their battle cruiser wakes. The answer is staring everyone in the face. The reason there are so many fat chicks in the world, and particularly in America, is because THEY CHOOSE THE PLEASURES OF FOOD AND IDLENESS OVER THE PLEASURES OF PLEASING MEN. That’s it, fatties. You choose… poorly. And you *will* pay the consequences. Forever. Or at least until you push away from the table.
“Thin, attractive wives sometimes suffer spousal infidelity and emotional coldness, too. So how can you say fat is the problem?”
This is the mirror image of the MGTOW false dichotomy fallacy (“If you hit on women, you are a beta because you have to put in effort to meet them.”) Feminists often employ this tactical fallacy when confronted by bleedingly obvious facts of human nature that remind them of their low status in the sexual value hierarchy.┬ĀJust as MGTOWs, handicapped by their shut-in, stunted understanding of the innate differences between men and women, can’t fathom how a man can be both alpha and happy to approach and seduce women he desires, so too do feminists and their ilk betray a studied lack of comprehension about the effects that women’s degree of desirability has on men’s motivations.
A feminist sees a slender girl get cheated on by her asshole boyfriend, and the feminist’s stretch garment, M├Čbius strip mind promptly infers that being thin and sexy offers no more protection from infidelity than does being fat and gross. The feminist does not explore other, more likely, possibilities, such as the idea that hot babes are more likely to hook up with alpha males who have more temptations to suppress, or that the thin wife who suffered her husband’s infidelity probably would have suffered a lot more of his infidelities, and a lot earlier in the marriage, had she been overweight instead.
“But I read somewhere that fat people live longer than thin people?”
Not so fast. One dubious meta-analysis that contradicts literally thousands of individual studies showing the deleterious effects of fatness on health should not inspire confidence that being fat is A-Ok. However, let’s assume for the purposes of troll patronizing that overweight people really do “””live””” longer than thin people. Suffice to say, such extended longevity would come at a cost. There are the healthcare expenditures to treat all the illnesses that arise from being fat, of course. Then there’s the fact that most people would prefer a quality life as a thin person that ends, at last, rather peacefully in deep sleep, rather than a stricken life as a fatso waddling out an extra year or two on one diabetic foot and aching joints, wheezing and puffing and pants-pissing recklessly because any visible signs of graspable genitalia were lost long ago.
There is furthermore the obvious point that none of this feeble protesting about the supposed lack of health consequences of fatness has anything to do with the topic under discussion, which is that fat women repulse and drive away their husbands. Even if fat women are the healthiest people in the world and will all live to 110, that doesn’t change the fact that they are aesthetically repulsive to nearly all men. Thin people outcompete fat people in the dating market in the ways that matter because people, all kinds of people at all kinds of weights, prefer to gaze upon the lithe contours of slender bodies (for women) or V-shaped fit bodies (for men) rather than the undulating rolls of blubber on fat people. If fat craps don’t want to lose weight for their health, then they should lose weight for the better impression they’ll leave with others, and especially with those of the opposite sex whom they desire as romantic possibilities.
“Shaming fat women won’t work.”
A leading health academic has called for fat people to be ‘shamed and beat upon socially’ in order to halt the obesity crisis.
In a controversial article, Daniel Callahan, the 82-year-old president emeritus of The Hastings Center a New York think-tank specializing in health policy ethics, calls for increased stigmatization of obese people to try spur weight-loss across America.
The senior research scholar says fat people should be treated like smokers who have become increasingly demonized in recent years and thus ‘nudged’ by negative attitudes of those around them into giving up the unhealthy habit. […]
‘The obvious target would be the large number of people who are unaware that they are overweight,’ he writes in the paper printed in the┬Ācenter’s first periodical volume┬Āof the year.
‘They need, to use an old phrase, a shock of recognition. Only a carefully calibrated effort of public social pressure is likely to awaken them to the reality of their condition.
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Shaming works. If it worked on smokers and “””racists”””, it will work on fatties. Shaming isn’t the sole solution to the obesity epidemic, but it is a powerful weapon against the marching manatees. Shaming fat women to lose weight will bring increased happiness to the world, and that’s a utilitarian argument men can spring to life for!
The shaming stick coupled with the encouragement carrot is a potent combo. Be genuinely helpful and complimentary to women who are sincerely making efforts to lose weight. Remind her, in nuanced language as necessary, that a reward of feeling better about herself and having a more exciting (read: more pleasurably orgasmic) dating life await her on the other side where thin women take their desirability for granted. But the carrot should always follow the stick, like you might give a dog a treat only after it has done what you commanded of it. Too little shame, and the carrot becomes an excuse to avoid the hard choices, or to delude oneself that no improvement is needed.
Let’s end on a positive, uplifting note of encouragement: Shame on you, fatties! Shame! Shame! Look at yourselves. You’re all a bunch of triple decker sauerkraut and toadstool sandwiches wrapped in a casing of subhuman sausage flesh. Blue whales sonically laugh at you. Your smegma hiding stomach folds have spawned a new species of armored crevice mice who nibble on your mouth droppings. Your pets eagerly await the feast that will accompany your untimely sofa-bound death. You are the reason a cottage industry of ass-wiping implements exists. The sight of your dumpy hind quarters can reduce a porn star’s viagra- and yohimbe-fueled hard-on to an inverted micropenis in less than a second. Whole villages of gnomes have been found ‘twixt your enormous buttocks. When you pinch a loaf, sewage treatment plants go code red. Your clitorii can fill hot dog buns. Your manboobs can spray milk from ten yards. You sicken me. You sicken everyone. Admit it, you even sicken yourselves. For shaaaaaaaaaaaame.
PS Since lower class women are fatter than upper class women, (smart ladies know what matters in the big picture), it behooves all men of taste who care about preserving pleasing female forms to engage in noblesse oblige, before the habits of the lessers percolate upward and become the habits of the betters, or what zee French call noblesse obese. There used to be a grand Iron Junk tradition where higher class men would scavenge lower class women for their pretty secretaries and nurses, because upper class women tend also to be battle-axes and egregious status whores. And the lower class women, for their part, loved that system. What cute, economically depressed girl wouldn’t relish an opportunity for love with a charming Gatsbian? But now, these men have nowhere to turn for tender female company; the lower classes have become untouchable, in the strictest sense of the word. So this is why the CH anti-fatass campaign is both pro-man *and* pro-woman… and pro-egalitarian! Making lower class women attractive again will help break down class divisions. Never let it be said the Oracles of the House of Heartiste aren’t generous of heart and willing to share their bounty with the rabble.
Fat chicks used to have nice personalities. For an omega, this was at least a sop: he might have a land-beast as a wife, too ugly for anyone else, but at least she never gave him lip and was properly ashamed of her looks, and tried, with pleasantness, support, cooking, cleaning, winking at infidelity, etc. to make up for it.
Nowadays, at least 3/4 demand you worship them as princesses. They aren’t pleasant, they’re feminists.
So true…fat chicks have worse attitudes than your skinny entitled princesses.
It makes sense that there’s more conflict in fat woman / non-fat man relationships.
However, I think the conflict is the result of the woman being turned off by a man so omega as to settle for a cow.
…I think the conflict is the result of the woman being turned off by a man so omega as to settle for a cow.
someone once said that he would never join a club that would have him as a member
I suppose that the type of man that can be with a very fat woman – like anon said – is the type of man ,she the fat woman, can not stand, respect or even like or love
She is frustrated for being fat and she is frustrated for being with a man that does not have what she wishes he had
the man becomes the recipient , the punching bag where the fat woman “dumps” her resentment and anger
instead of being greatfull to that man who is not fat
and still wants to be with her
but women are rarely greatfull with the men who treat them right
ask any of the millions of nice men out there if women are good at showing gratitude and appreciating men who treat them like princesses
Ingratitude is one of the main problem with women
they feel entitled beyond belief
did you ever notice that most nurses are huge, fat husky rude women? I guess hospitals are the only places that will employ women looking like that.
You have your causation mixed up – they’re not nurses because they’re fat, they’re fat because they’re nurses. You notice the same with most shift workers, fucking around with your sleeping patterns screws your metabolism.
Of course they’re do. All their life they are told they are special and equal, and then life hits them with a big dose of reality and they are stuck in the bar, waiting for an equally repugnant man to get drunk enough to bed her after last call…..
They’re entitled because life has never given them anything but lies. I’d be bitter, too.
Awesome GIF embedded in the story – it’s so nerve wracking to see Colorado hanging on and hanging on and hanging on, in skinny territory, until the very end, when [SPOILER ALERT!] it gives up the ghost, and goes obese.
Of course the mass 3rd world immigration has a lot to do wiff our growth in obesity.Also you’ll notice how bad the South is;the emigration of many northern ni–I mean blacks back to the South,after destroying–I mean seeking a better way of life–affects that ranking,.as the black female is the most obese of them all. Dey be healfy! Aint no one want a bone but a dog!
Yup… on facebook, you’ll routinely see fat sows being constantly complimented on their looks. And judging from Daily Mail votes up/down, a majority of people still think shaming or criticizing fat shits is bad.
Fat women are some of the nastiest women I have ever encountered in my life. They are normally very abrasive at best and rude/mean generally. There are about four girls who are roughly the same age early-mid-late twenties while everyone else at the firm are male and decades older than us. So naturally we tend to flock together at work. Two of us are tiny and short, one is tall and thin, the fourth is short AND fat. This fourth girl is sooo nasty to me and my young colleagues. The way she talks down to people is crazy. To be honest, I find the stereotype that skinny chicks have worse attitudes than fat chicks to be a FAR CRYfrom (my) reality. Most of the skinny chicks I know are generally very pleasant people to others. Sure in a relationship setting they might shit-test the shit out of you, but in general like day to day dealings they are normally very sweet (even if they are faking it)!
A direct result of the “fat pride” movement. Twenty years ago, fatties felt inferior and tried to make up for it by being nice. Now, they’re told that they’re just as good as everybody else. Because nobody complies with their fantasy and overlooks their “differentness”, everyone around them is obviously a dumbass and worthy of scorn.
Therefore, being kind to fatties makes them even MORE insufferable. Kindness that kills epitomized.
To be honest, I find the stereotype that skinny chicks have worse attitudes than fat chicks to be a FAR CRY from (my) reality. Most of the skinny chicks I know are generally very pleasant people to others. Sure in a relationship setting they might shit-test the shit out of you, but in general like day to day dealings they are normally very sweet (even if they are faking it)!
Not just your reality — this is exactly my impression too.
Enablers of destructive tendencies. Hell, it killed that wino-Winehouse chick. All those compliments, mixed with booze…dead’r than a door nail now.
Which it is why I’m baffled any dude marries one of them. It’s one thing to marry a skinny pain, but you must have absolutely no game to marry a fat pain.
because some of them are good at household chores like cleaning cooking and licking my taint. Some of them have good jobs and make lots of money. And I can get some on the side.
Yep. A lot of fat girls I’ve met were emulating the tv stereotype of the confident and sassy big woman but just ended up throwing around insults and offending everyone around them.
It’s a failure of the system, trying to make girls feel better about being fat. The over-praise needed to offset the fact that these bitch-cows are disgusting results in such a skewing of reality that these fat, slovenly whores aren’t worth the bullet it would take to put them out of their misery.
I wish there was a way to “like” all of the above comments. I thought it was just me that fatties were nasty to.
It’s gotten to the point where if I walk into a business and there is a fat bitch behind the counter, I will not patronize that business. I’m tired of rude comments and condescending remarks — that is when you can even get one of these porkers to do her job.
My theory for their rudeness is that no guys talk with fat women so the only way they can get any emotion is by upsetting everyone.
Indeed. “Fattitude” is a fairly recent thing.
Alas there aren’t enough black guys for all he fat white chicks out here..
“the forthcoming CH book” Yipee!!!!!!!
Yes. Correct on all points. Let me add…as a physician, IÆve seen the lard-laden bodies of heavy women naked. ItÆs to the point that I will not even consider dating a woman who isnÆt shapely (and in shape). I can also tell you that the quality of life of ōhealthyö fat women is far worse than the quality of life of ōhealthyö thin women. (applies to men, as well, as far as health goes). The statistics on ōfat people live longerö are contaminated by the inclusion of chronically, and acutely ill people who die thin. Not people who for the most of their life ōlived thinö or ōlived fatö. Those statistics are also contaminated by inclusion of smokers….who are often thinner, but not healthier.
Diabetes? Hypertension? Vascular disease? Immobility? Bad joints? All are increased with obesity. (Obesity sounds so much nicer than ōfatö). Complications from surgery? Anesthesia? Need for chronic medication? Higher food bills? All increased with obesity. The only ōbenefitö of obesity is that you get to stuff your face. And that, my friends, doesnÆt feel nearly as good as eating right, and getting some exercise.
Preach on. And good luck to my 350 lb ex-wife.
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CH posted: “CH, what is best in life?
To mock your enemies, see them driven to hysterics before you, and to hear the mooing of the fatties.
That is good!
You’re damn right that is good. This post will continue a proud tradition.
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If someone told me,”
So, it looks like Fat is a largely black phenomena, but as I don’t fancy black chicks (sorry, I tried, I really did) I guess I’d have to really be a mug to end up with a fat one.
Of course fatter can be prettier; there is an old rule of thumb: face or figure, and another; slim woman by day: fat by night.
Are you black? Where do you live? What “part” of society do you normally associated with? IMHO fat is largely a socio-economic and maybe geographical phenomenon. On average, rich people (I mean upper middle class) tend to be skinnier, black or white. This has been evident in the schools I went to for my biz and law degs and there were black chicks there. Especially in law school, there were maybe 2% of the female population that could be “termed” overweight and the ONE girl who was morbidly obese (stuck out like a sore thumb) and she was native american. Now that I am working and go to happy hour type mixers, none of the black girls come across are even remotely fat. This does not mean that the black women are not amongst the heaviest women I have seen. I remembered the week I had problems with my car and had to take the bus for a week. A) 70% of bus users were black women and B) 90% of these women were fat. I think it is more a “poor people” phenomena as opposed to a “race” phenomenon. Majority of black women just happen to be amongst the poorest demographic.
Your observation is correct, because the “cheaper” foods available to those without resources are largely wheat and corn. The same grade garbage fed to cows to fatten them up for slaughtering… is it any wonder that the poor are being fattened up too.
True, but they sell apples in EVERY grocery store. Even if you’re options aren’t the best, it’s your duty as a sovereign human being to make the most of your available choices.
There’s lots of cheap food options if you buy fruit and vegetables and cook from scratch.
Fruits and vegetables are “more expensive” per pound than pre-packaged foods.
YouŌĆÖd be surprised how wrong you are. Many of these people are receiving food stamps, or EBT cards, which in recent years have been focusing on nutritional food for the recipient. Trust me ; some of these people, eat better than people who pay taxes. Therefore, if they are fat itŌĆÖs because they either donŌĆÖt have the mentality for being slim and in shape or because itŌĆÖs their built, as many black women are simply humongous cows, heredity speaking.
So, I think Martel is essentially right. Assuming itŌĆÖs not their built and body type to be humongous cows, itŌĆÖs really their lack of making good food choices. Furthermore, many of these mothers who are on food stamps, use the money for other things while they feed their kids McDonaldŌĆÖs every day, which has about 700 Ca per medium-sized meal. Of course, itŌĆÖs much harder in the last few years to use food stamps, especially EBT, for anything but food, especially since Katrina. But still, when there is a will there is a way, and food stamps and EBT have many abuses.
Shit. I want to live where you do. Pre-packaged foods are always cheaper than fresh by me. Toss in shit (fatty) meat, and it’s a perfect storm when you add in fat acceptance.
I appear to have upset you – and not just with regard to whether poverty causes obesity (I think not). Whereas I have no intention of replying to your somewhat impertinent questions I would merely point out that the most obese states, as shown on the changing map, are in the south which I have always understood (for reasons of history) to be the blacker states. I assumed that, although Heartiste did not mention this fact, that that was what one was supposed to assume.
Sigh, I must be inadvertently giving out angry vibes with my replies as you are not the first person to tell me this on CH. It is not the case. My friends think I reply text messages in a rude manner too but they know me in person.
I am not sure why I should/would be upset…I am neither black nor fat? The reason I asked if you were black was because, unless you were black, stating “I don’t fancy black chicks” in the manner you did, is irrelevant as no one will expect you, a non-black to date a black chick in the first place? I am unfamiliar with your history on CH so wasn’t sure if your race/ethnicity was common knowledge? We are all expected to stick to “our own kind” so I can understand your comment if you were black and you were stating that (black chicks on the whole are fatter) and as a result you don’t fancy them. Otherwise, to what end would a white guy make that comment in the first place? It would be analogous to Heartsy making a swpl post and Twack saying “but I don’t fancy white chicks”
I am simply curious…It is never my intention to provoke/instigate/troll anyone else’s comment here…although it is more than likely I will still get rimmed and attacked either way…afterall I am a woman in a manosphere world. Sigh
We aren’t expected to “stick to our own kind” however. Those liberal MS media toadies would have a white man who prefers the same race as himself be ostracized by femtards for being racist. It’s been removed, as far as I can tell, but quite a few of the “Nice Guys of OkCupid” who were singled out were strictly for that very statement.
You delude yourself if you think the feminists and liberals aren’t trying to interbreed the white man into history alongside the Neanderthal.
True
As Steve Sailer ahs said,”On the internet,everyone is a white guy.”
I think it is more a ŌĆ£poor peopleŌĆØ phenomena as opposed to a ŌĆ£raceŌĆØ phenomenon. Majority of black women just happen to be amongst the poorest demographic.
Let me guess – you and mathematics didn’t cross paths much in college?
It’s a shame that folks don’t have common sense anymore, because it [common sense] was such a good [& natural & intuitive] substitute for a formal grounding in rigorous probability theory.
Or maybe you were being facetious?
your guess is correct *embarrassed face*
Well just try to remember that if the same thing keeps happening over and over and over and OVER and OVER again [on the order of n = 45,000,000, or worse], then you aren’t dealing with an occasional bout of random noise – you’re dealing with a pattern.
And patterns arise from underlying causes.
Saying poor = fat is just pure victimization. What is preventing these people from growing a garden or joining a community garden? Are they not allowed to go for a twenty minute walk every evening? The bottom line is the very things that lead to poorness also lead to fatness: Being lazy and unmotivated.
A motivated person rarely stays fat (or poor) for long.
Man, you must live somewhere else than I do. It’s landwhales everywhere in Dallas, TX. Yeah, the skinny white businesswoman sucking off tax credits to run her boutique business is pale, slim, and wearing a $600 tracksuit, but here in my office I know three women who aren’t porky, and one of them is an immigrant so she doesn’t count.
The open campus, shiney Vespa, mailbag on your hip, and your iPod in your ear.
WRONG!!!
Yep. I married the best country cook in five states and she hung a hundred on both of us the first year (I wasn’t skinny when we married; I was downright gaunt, the way long-distance runners are). So we were both fat. After the divorce I lost much (but by no means all) of that marriage weight; she didn’t, and she’s busy fattening up her new hubby even as we speak.
Did you have any kids with her?
You mean like for dinner?? Thats sick!
Everybody loves kids , but it’s hard to eat whole one by yourself.
haha, read this as ass-whipping implements. those exist too.
Some part of me wants to propose that we just shoot all the fat chicks.
But the cold, calculating part of me realizes that this would just increase the bitch shields of the remaining chicks.
There is no solution except expatriation.
Ah, fat chicks—why god invented that one black friend most guys have.
“Hey Jammal, I’m at the bar. I got a set for us. Get over here—your girl is about 6 sizes larger than mine. And blond. And I just heard your girl complain about men being “intimidated” by strong women like her.”
I was in the Army. An amusement of some of the lower-enlisted was going “whaling,” in which the object of the night was to see who could come back the next day after the bars with the largest set of panties. It made me think of the movie Road Trip, exept these guys were most definitely not the omega in that flick–they were out, and even for hard-core combat-arms types, competing in an exeptionally dangerous arena.
I heard there is a custom in ML baseball that if a guy is in a slump,he can break it by going out and fucking an ugly woman. (I read about this in reference to ladies man Mark Grace,while he was wiff da Cubs.) I imagine weight plays a huge part in the assignment of “slump-breaker” status to a woman.
Plus, since they’re all heavy, moving them afterwards (not to mention the cost of custom coffins to fit the oversized remainders) would be a burden on society.
Expatriation is the only solution. It really and truly is. Hopefully you don’t have one of these things in your family. I unfortunately do (sister-in-law). To go with her fat, she is also going bald! Two for one! My omega brother worships the ground she walks on.
Yeah. I’m in Eastern Europe. Ha ha. Suckers. Just wanted to remind you. Gawd, too bad you can’t see them. Heh-heh. Poor basterds. You wouldn’t believe it. And I don’t have to come back to the whale pool. Expatriation, drones. Heh-heh.
Just bought the condo in SEA myself. Six months per year there, six months with the orcas at present….
But only two more years and it’s full-time SEA and orca-free forever.
Or bringing one back with you. I did that.
The Pill ballooned her up, which bugged the shit out of me….but she does pushups and situps with me now, and that makes me proud of her. I’ll give ANYBODY props if they’re sweating their asses off working on it.
CH, two questions: http://www.primecurves.com/tiffany-curvy-goddess/
1. Is she fat?
2. Regardless of answer to question 1, would you hit it?
IF you are at work, please note that the above link is NSFW! she is not skinny, but she seems to have a flat stomach and curves in the right places. #nohomo
@Petite: Read my original comment. Is your name CH? Typical of a woman to feel she should interject herself into a conversation meant between two dudes, AND simultaneously correct said man for improperly PG-rating his comments. You might not be fat, but you’re heavily presumptuous.
She’s not “fat” but not really better than a 5.5/6 either.
5.5! Seriously? How about this pic? http://images.primecurves.com/tiffany-busty-brunette/10.jpg
[Heartiste: Face is a bit beat up. Body is nice. She’d look better if she lost about 10 pounds, and tightened up those upper arms. Still very fuckable, but could be even more fuckable.]
Sorry to say… shopped.
Look at her left hip. It has straight lines.
Have to agree with Heartiste. She might be a 7 with his suggestions…. 2 points worth mentioning though. 1st, she’s on a porn site… which means airbrushing. 2nd, her face isn’t getting any better, only worse.
She’s an 8.
End of discussion.
bored at office…..clicked on link….thought people who are at work should get a heads up…not sure how you deducted from my post that I was trying to “correct” you. Whatevs
@Petite: Gay!
No
Yes
The real question is: How will she be in 10, 15 years? Or after marriage? Or after giving birth?
I think she is what men want when they think about Big Beautiful Woman, but… as an athlete, I know this balance between hotness/fatness will survive only until she’s below 30. WITH LUCK.
1. No
2. Yes
I’m not a fan of the Lykis model of fat-gauging. Some girls wear a little weight better than others: those with naturally round bottoms and larger breasts. The attractiveness points they lose for not being toned and having a gym-sculpted body are more than made up for in a C+ size bust and a heart-shaped heiny.
The bad news is that if a woman works out a little too much, she starts to lose ALL of the fat deposits in her body. This includes the above two perks which are, after all, fat. Very rare is the woman with a six-pack and a full, natural bust.
All in all, this girl is what wise people had in mind when they said “a couple extra pounds don’t hurt,” not this
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0brb2Qtl61qj72iy.jpg
She has very nice curves
I would certainly ” do ” her and I would date a woman that looked like that,
but I am one of the older guys here, so my tastes differ and my options are ” narrower” due to my age
most young men would say she must lose weight, but I think she looks fine because of her very nice curves
her face is a bit “boyish” but not ugly
nice body , ok face
Fuckable 6. Any bitchiness/arrogance whatsoever brings her down to a 3
Okay maybe 6.5, or a veeery weak 7. But the attitude will still certainly make or break her
She is still young and attractive and she is woman in the right places. Her problem is she is at her tipping point for SMV. If she lost 20 pounds and kept them off and had a decent chharacter she could be LTR material. I’ve hit worse
Look at this for comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDLLXUaqZxg
I forgot. 10/10
She’s a little chunky for girlfriend material, but she’s got a solid hourglass ratio. So yeah , I’d hit that.
Wasn’t there a previous study done that said that when the man is more attractive than the woman, the marriages suffer? This is basically the same situation, because as everyone knows, fat = ugly.
“‘Fatness is genetic. Fat chicks canŌĆÖt do anything about it.’
Bullshit on stilts. See above graph. ThereŌĆÖs no way fat crappery can increase that much in a population of hundreds of millions in the span of 25 years by genetic selection alone.”
Can we let go of the strawman, please?
[Heartiste: No strawman here. This is what most people believe is being asserted when they hear the words “fat” and “heredity” spoken together. An air clearing is necessary to disabuse them of wrong thoughts.]
First off, the first statement ŌēĀ to the second statement. People who talk about heredity, like me, do not make that claim.
[I’m not responding to you. I’m addressing the public. And the public is an ass. They need it spelled out.]
BMI is highly heritable (80% so), but, as I discussed in my post on heredity, the expression of heritable traits heavily depends on the environment in which they’re expressed. Change the environment, you can often drastically change the phenotype without changing the genotype.
“The best the ‘fat gene’ crowd…”
(BTW, it’s not a “fat gene”; obesity, like most traits, is the result of many genes with small effects, and is apparently heavily influenced by “non-additive” genetic effects, i.e., effects where the precise combination of genes matters.)
“…can argue is that most humans are wired to put on excess weight in an environment of plentiful sugar-rich, high glycemic index carb food and sedentary lifestyles. That isnŌĆÖt the same as saying fat people have fat genes rendering them immune to efforts at long-term weight loss.”
Correct, but the conclusion you draw is not so simple. The vast majority of people who lose weight (80%) eventually regain it and more.
[One question: How did all those pre-1970 Americans (90+%) manage to stay thin their whole lives? Surely, if the same proportion of pre-1970 Americans as today’s proportion of Americans had a diaspora of genetic traits predisposing them to obesity, the numbers would reflect that. But they don’t. Answer: Americans are fatter now, and stay fatter longer now, because they eat worse food and they eat more of it. And they don’t exercise as much. If they cared, they would change their eating and exercise habits. No recourse to genetic explanations necessary, except inasmuch as it is blatantly obvious most of humanity have genes which encourage overeating and sedateness in environments that provide plenty of opportunity for both.]
You can try to blame them by saying they “lack willpower” or they’re “too accepted”, but that’s foolish.
[Is it?]
Human nature it what it is.
[Human nature hasn’t changed much since 1950.]
The gene-environment convergence that produced obesity is still here, and as long as the “obesogenic” factors remain in place, it is impossible to expect people to lose weight en masse.
[Yet so many manage to do just that. SWPLs for instance. People have abandoned smoking en masse; they can do the same with overeating and underexercising. And this blog will be a clarion call to shake them from their stupor. If you don’t like it, best just ignore it. Anything else will only encourage the cruel beast to increase the voltage.]
It is simply not going to happen, unless some strong environmental intervention is introduced (like drugs).
[Such negativity. Won’t stop aesthete sadists from trying. Note that I am not opposed to drug panaceas, but in the meantime there are surefire ways to influence people to shape up.]
“‘But I read somewhere that fat people live longer than thin people?’
Not so fast. One dubious meta-analysis that contradicts literally thousands of individual studies showing the deleterious effects of fatness on health should not inspire confidence that being fat is A-Ok. However, letŌĆÖs assume for the purposes of troll patronizing that overweight people really do ŌĆ£ŌĆØ”liveŌĆØ”ŌĆØ longer than thin people. Suffice to say, such extended longevity would come at a cost. There are the healthcare expenditures to treat all the illnesses that arise from being fat, of course.”
In reality, the connection between obesity, diet, poor health, and longevity is much more murky than we’ve been led to believe, as you can see in my most recent blog post:
A Fat Problem With Heart Health Wisdom.
People live in poorer health these days not because they’re fatter, but because we’ve gotten better at keeping sicker people alive.
[Do you deny obesity is associated with increased risk of diabetes, arthritis, stroke and cardiovascular disease?]
“See here for an animated map going back to 1985. Gripping (gimping?) stuff.”
That map is of course highly misleading.
[Only if you don’t give a shit about nearly half the American population — blacks and amerindians — being disgusting slobs. Those WNs who fret about black men hooking up with white women might want to reflect for a moment that the black dudes may be less inclined to leave the reservation if their own women are more bang-worthy.]
That’s because it’s not broken down by race. When you do so, you get a different picture. The White obesity rate is not all that high, particularly outside Greater Appalachia and the fringe areas of the Midlands.
[The white obesity *plus* overweight rates (both matter equally for aesthetics, if not equally for health) are still too damn high, and if you would look closely at that data, have been trending higher since 1970. (Though very recently there does seem to have been a leveling off. Perhaps the CH message is getting out loud and clear? Yay!)]
“Mutually fat couples have no reason to rejoice. While thin husbands are more apt to distance themselves from fat wives, emotionally and sexually, fat husbands feel just as much frustration and resentment. Fat dudes are just as disgusted by fat chicks as are thin dudes.”
Men vary in their taste for body fat in women
[No they don’t. There are hundreds of studies showing that men’s tastes in women is fairly universal, barring a few tropical and Indonesian outliers, with the focal points being a preference for a 0.65-0.75 WHR and a 17-23 BMI range. Even the goddamned African pygmies — about as weird a human group as one will find — express a preference for hourglass shaped, thin(ner) women!]
(and this is not just because they’re “settling” with what they can land).
[Actually, yes it is. Sour grapes is a real thing. The Greeks were a wise people. Have you seen the kind of women a man with suddenly improved options will fuck? For a real life experiment of this in action, look at the mate choices of any famous man, before and after his fame.]
Waist-to-hip ratio is a far more reliable gauge of female attractiveness than is her degree of “fatness”.
[Study after study has shown men are repulsed by fat women, and the fatter, the more disgusted and turned off men are. Now perhaps you are one of those exceptional fatty fuckers who cares not for this fact about men’s natures, in which case I say fly your feral hog flag high. But don’t assume the masses of men will line up under your banner.]
It’s not how fat a woman is per se, it’s where she has her fat (which varies considerably among women).
[Even a woman with fat deposited in her hips and ass is going to look grotesque if there’s too much of it. Black dudes may like (to a degree) that steatopygous rump booty, but white dudes, on the whole, do not. PS If you want to see what kinds of women black men with options actually date and marry, see any black Hollywood actor. The chicks are either white, or they’re thin and sexy black women.]
Discordant weight couples may be unhappier partly for the reasons you suggest and also because of the lack of proper assortative mating.
[That’s just a fancy way of saying that fat chicks are gross to most men.]
Matched weight couples, including where both are overweight are probably happier because of the pull of genetic similarity (which is highly important).
[Or because the fat guy is just relieved he’s not horribly alone, so he’s good at tamping down his natural lust for thin women to keep his relationship functional. Look, talk to any fat dude married to a hog. Get out of the lab or the internet bubble, and watch their eyes. The eyes tell the tale. These are not happy men. These are beaten down men, listless and despondent. They put on a good show for company, but talk to them in private and all kinds of dissatisfactions spill out. Then observe what kinds of women formerly fat men who have slimmed down choose. As soon as the former fat man experiences a surge in dating market options, he chooses thinner women than the warpigs he left behind. I have YET to see an exception to this rule.]
“ŌĆ£Shaming fat women wonŌĆÖt work.ŌĆØ
Oh, really?
A leading health academic has called for fat people to be ŌĆśshamed and beat upon sociallyŌĆÖ in order to halt the obesity crisis.
In a controversial article, Daniel Callahan, the 82-year-old president emeritus of The Hastings Center a New York think-tank specializing in health policy ethics, calls for increased stigmatization of obese people to try spur weight-loss across America.
The senior research scholar says fat people should be treated like smokers who have become increasingly demonized in recent years and thus ŌĆśnudgedŌĆÖ by negative attitudes of those around them into giving up the unhealthy habit. […]
ŌĆśThe obvious target would be the large number of people who are unaware that they are overweight,ŌĆÖ he writes in the paper printed in the centerŌĆÖs first periodical volume of the year.
ŌĆśThey need, to use an old phrase, a shock of recognition. Only a carefully calibrated effort of public social pressure is likely to awaken them to the reality of their condition.”
“
Can we say appeal to authority
[The guy wrote a paper about it. Why don’t you read it and get back to us?]
(although this should fall under the special category of “appeal to assholic authority”)?
[I’m sensing butthurtness. Why is that? Hmmm?]
He has no more idea than you do.
[How shut-in does one have to be to profess disbelief that shame is a powerful motivator of people’s actions?]
As aforementioned, what he states is highly unlikely to work, because appetite and food availability won’t simultaneously change.
[People are not automatons, bereft of any ability to choose at all. Genetics is probabilistic, not deterministic. Plenty of people manage to keep themsevles thin in this modern environment. It may be harder for some than others, but ultimately it comes down to how much importance a person places on his or her sexual desirability vs food pleasure.]
All that will succeed in doing is making more people more miserable ŌĆō for unclear benefits.
[From the crucible of misery, great works are amalgamated. Anyhow, I’d rather fat fucks be miserable than be ignorantly and obstreperously happy about their disgusting conditions. At least with the former, you have a chance at conversion. The latter type are prone to proselytizing patent absurdities like fat acceptance, thin privilege and BBW myths.]
How many think JayMan is fat?
What’s funny about this obesity epidemic is that it’s so damn easy to combat.
Eat clean high fat portions meats and veggies and ditch wheat/sugar. Problem solved.
Weight lift if you want to build a musclar physique within your genetic potential.
Running around a track like a chicken with it’s head cut off simply for weight control is a losing proposition simply because your body wants to refeed after a serious workout that loses a lot of calories and the hormones will push you in that direction.
Running should be training to be able to run with more endurance for activities not for weight loss. Weight lifting is the real activity that improves and reshapes your body.
Do an experiment, go to a gym and then look at treadmill section and then go to the weight room. Look at which gender is doing what and which gender looks better. Odds are you will find fat women on treadmills desperately running like a hamster to lose weight and fit guys lifting free weights. That says all you need to know about cardio and weight control.
The woman with the best body at my gym with maybe 15 percent body fat (very low for a woman) is one of the only women to lift like a dude. It’s just that women see female bodybuilders pumped full of steroids and they think that by even looking at a weight they will turn into a she hulk despite the fact that tons of guys with 17 times more testestorone are busting their ass everyday for that look and coming up snake eyes.
First of all, it’s important to note that free will does not exist.
[Heartist: Has this been proven? Serious question. I mean real proof, not philosophical conjecture. Anyhow, these sorts of discussions about free will always wind up being moot, because even if one could prove that at the quantum level there is no free will, for all practical purposes at the social interaction and stimulus-response level, it does exist. Or rather, a simulacrum of voluntary action exists which can be compared to free will.]
Human behavior is always the result of genes + environment + random events. There’s no getting around this fact. In order to change behavior, you need to change one or more of those three things (the third component being unchangeable by definition). It’s important to keep that in mind.
[Genes don’t need to be changed. Pre-1970 Americans prove that. Environment is where it’s at. And that change can and should occur on all fronts: diet, exercise, ostracism, mockery, stick-carrot, etc. Note that I am not opposed to a future where genetic engineering makes it possible for people to eat whatever they want without getting fat or unhealthy. But as of now, that is a pipe dream. Best stick to tried and true methods.]
What you are suggesting is changing the environment (into a more shameful one). The disagreement here is whether that particular environmental change (if even possible) is likely to lead to a reduction in obesity.
[Right now, our society is increasingly contorted to make life easier for fat shits, and to find offense at anyone who dares point out how ugly fat shits are. This needs to change, because it is convincing growing legions of fatties that their conditions are acceptable, and won’t cause them trouble in the dating market.]
“This is what most people believe is being asserted when they hear the words “fat” and “heredity” spoken together.”
Fair enough. People are stupid.
[You don’t want to give a fatty (or a feminist or an equalist) even one iota of hope, because they’ll take that crumb and try to bake an entire loaf out of it (and then eat it. hahaw!)]
“How did all those pre-1970 Americans (90+%) manage to stay thin their whole lives?”
Umm, the pre-1970s environment was different? I said that…
[Ok. Implicit in my replies is that the message is directed to a presumed audience of readers.]
“‘The gene-environment convergence that produced obesity is still here, and as long as the ŌĆ£obesogenicŌĆØ factors remain in place, it is impossible to expect people to lose weight en masse.’
[Yet so many manage to do just that. SWPLs for instance.”
“‘It is simply not going to happen, unless some strong environmental intervention is introduced (like drugs).’
[Such negativity. Won’t stop aesthete sadists from trying.”
“Plenty of people manage to keep themsevles thin in this modern environment. It may be harder for some than others, but ultimately it comes down to how much importance a person places on his or her sexual desirability vs food pleasure.”
Apparently, you’re missing what heredity means. Obviously, SWPLs, “aesthete sadists”, and those “plenty of people” are genetically different from others who do gain weight.
[But even pre-1970s lower classes were much thinner on average than today’s cohort. And they are presuambly the same genetic stock.]
“Note that I am not opposed to drug panaceas, but in the meantime there are surefire ways to influence people to shape up.”
Good luck with that.
[I won’t stop I can’t stop.]
“The guy wrote a paper about it. Why don’t you read it and get back to us?”
I have. He has no proof that his rather draconian recommendations will be effective (granted, there is no way to have such proof unless it’s tried), and it was laughable that he cited Bloomberg’s large drink ban. He is merely offering a suggestion for a new course of action. And by his own admission, “shaming” can easily slide into discrimination, and, owing to human nature, that is by far the most likely outcome. Obviously, while this is a matter of personal taste, that’s not a society we should be striving for.
[Why not? We discriminate against smokers and that shaming campaign has worked like gangbusters. I’d rather live in a discriminatory society than in a society that tolerates and even encourages all sorts of degenerate and disgusting behaviors. For instance, refraining from accommodating fatties on planes by building wider seats (and thus raising everyone’s airfare) when they bitch and moan, is my idea of good, effective discrimination.]
“How shut-in does one have to be to profess disbelief that shame is not a powerful motivator of people’s actions?”
Shame is a powerful motivator indeed. But will more shame to lead to more lots more thinner people (it will likely lead to a few more), or more extremely miserable fat people, who, despite their efforts, remain fat?
[This is why I support the carrot along with the stick: everyone likes to be flattered for their accomplishments, however relatively trivial. If someone is sincerely working at weight loss, and is showing progress, I will be the first to pat him or her on the back. But in the final analysis, I guess I just can’t give much of a shit if ugly fatsos putatively incapable of losing weight are miserable. It beats the alternative: assuaging their misery and living in a society full of sexually worthless blobs who ruin my view. Call it environmental activism. The downside to fatty misery is outweighed by the upside that at least some of them will take stock of their conditions, of their environments, and do what is necessary to shape up.]
Again, while you may be OK with that result, I personally am not.
[Ok. But now we’re in the realm of emotion, not science. If mood affiliation is your thing, may I recommend the Cheap Chalupas site? He’s keen on jacking up the US population to 500 million with hordes of third worlders. Such a giver that guy is!]
“The white obesity *plus* overweight rates (both matter equally for aesthetics, if not equally for health) are still too dman high”
That’s a taste issue.
[Most men share the same tastes. So, practically speaking, a taste issue is a fact issue.]
“and if you would look closely at that data, have been trending higher since 1970.”
Or, everyone genetically susceptible to being fat is now fat.
[Or, everyone currently thin has made the hard choices to control how much their environment negatively impacts them.]
We have reached the ceiling. Smoking rates were never close to 100%, for example.
[No, but they were much much higher. The precipitous drop in smoking is proof positive that a coordinated social effort to shame and discriminate against people exhibiting poor behaviors works.]
“Only if you don’t give a shit about nearly half the American population — blacks and amerindians — being disgusting slobs.”
If I am skeptical of the effectiveness of shame on White obesity rates, I’m even more skeptical on said effectiveness of groups with lower future-time orientation, lower impulse control, and a stronger sweet tooth.
[Then the issue is less genetic susceptibility to fatness than it is genetic susceptibility to impulsiveness, a behavioral trait, btw, which influences a whole panoply of life outcomes beyond just weight gain. If impulsive people are less likely to resist gluttony (a claim I don’t disagree with) then it is perhaps true that shaming won’t work as well on them as it would on less impulsive people. But it will work some, even if only at the margins among impulsive people. You can argue diminishing returns, but my take is that even if little progress is made among the lower classes, at least you somewhat halt their advance into decrepitude, and slow the infiltration of their bad habits into the middle and upper echelons. Shame is a primeval emotion, very origin human, so I expect it will work better among impulsive people than you give them credit for. Why do I think this? Because pre-1970 the lower classes, as impulsive back then as they are today, were nevertheless much thinner on average. Culture matters, and I say this as a guy who has given equalists a lot of shit for believing in the fairy tale that culture is all that matters.]
“Do you deny obesity is associated with increased risk of diabetes, arthritis, stroke and cardiovascular disease?”
It’s associated, but it may not be causal.
[I’m a doctor. A fat shit waddles into my office. He asks “Is my fatness associated with or causal of my diabetes?” I say “We don’t know yet, but some evidence shows it could be associated rather than causal.” Fat patient then asks “So what should I do?” I tell him “Lose weight.” I hope the moral of this parable doesn’t escape anyone.]
As we see in my post, the connection is less than clear. Where there is a connection, they may be common symptoms the same root causes (e.g., poor genetic health).
“There are hundreds of studies showing that men’s tastes in women is fairly universal, barring a few tropical and Indonesian outliers, with the focal points being a preference for a 0.65-0.75 WHR and a 17-23 BMI range.”
Such studies do not necessarily reveal individual variation within those groups.
[Fatty fucker exceptions prove the rule.]
“Even a woman with fat deposited in her hips and ass is going to look grotesque if there’s too much of it.”
Indeed. But at which point is that reached? (Say, pre-trim-down Kim Kardashian, for example.)
[Some racial difference comes into play here. For white and asian men, I’d say anything over a ten pound weight gain, however optimally distributed, is the gain at which a woman begins losing attractiveness points. For black and (maybe) hispanic men, I’d say they can better tolerate higher weight gains on women, on the order of 20 pounds. Now, “tolerate” does not mean “prefer”. Maybe black men do prefer thicker women, or maybe they’re just less discriminatory (read: hornier) than white men and don’t mind popping a fatty once in a while. Perhaps the disgust reflex in blacks in muted compared to the same in whites or asians. This is pure speculation based on what I observe in real life, though I wouldn’t be surprised if science came around to confirming my suspicions.]
“If you want to see what kinds of women black men with options actually date and marry, see any black Hollywood actor. The chicks are either white, or they’re thin and sexy black women.”
Well, there is our president for one (though marrying a Black woman was likely a political necessity for Barry). Successful Black men tend to be more White in ancestry, and as you note, White guys prefer thinner.
[I was thinking Will Smith. Jada Pinckett is a cutie. And very slender.]
“Then observe what kinds of women formerly fat men who have slimmed down choose. As soon as the former fat man experiences a surge in dating market options, he chooses thinner women than the warpigs he left behind. I have YET to see an exception to this rule.”
That would be an interesting experiment to conduct.
[May you live in interesting times.]
Of course, the results would be confounded by the fact that these men wanted to be thinner, hence were unlikely unhappy with their current state of affairs. They would be obviously different from guys who remained heavy.
[Degree of “want” can vary within an individual based on contextual feedback. Ever notice how much more ambitious men get when they have a taste of success? T levels are known to rise in concordance with status boosts (and with “power poses”!) This is why fat men who have resigned themselves to their fate and settled for fat partners lose the instinct to better themselves. It can quickly be revitalized with a taste of how much better life can be on the other side.]
Note that I don’t doubt that many, perhaps most (White) men prefer thinner women, and that mutually heavy couples exist for the reasons you cite. However, many men do prefer women who are not as thin as Barbie, even if given the choice.
[The BMI range in which men’s taste vary is not particularly broad. Most studies pinpoint BMI 17-23 as the ideal female range. And anecdote supports this. Go to a bar or nightclub and what do you see? Almost all the men checking out the same few super hot, super sexy babes. Of course, not all those men will go home with those few sexy babes, but that is not proof of their preferences; it is a manifestation of the fact that not all men can fulfill their preferences.]
“From the crucible of misery, great works are amalgamated. Anyhow, I’d rather fat fucks be miserable than be ignorantly and obstreperously happy about their their disgusting conditions.”
Well that’s a matter of personal taste. It’s not the society I’d like to live in. I’m not concerned about obesity in the long run because:
1. The increase has stalled, as you note.
2. It’s not clear how dangerous it actually is.
3. Sooner or later, we will have a “magic pill” that does the trick, if we don’t already with Qnexa.
[1. Time to reverse it. Remember, obesity affects the dating market to men’s detriment. Fewer babes, tougher dating climate for men.
2. It’s dangerous to one’s sexiness.
3. In the meantime, we have the “push away from the table” magic pill.
PS You write like Half Sigma. Any relation?]
First of all, itŌĆÖs important to note that free will does not exist.
So you’re a Calvinist? The vast majority of Calvinists I’ve run into are arrogant holier-than-thou fucks, which leads me to believe, ipso facto, that free will does in fact exist.
+1 for educated reply. He’s posting a hell of a straw man. “Pure” free will doesn’t exist. The human ability to make choices though, does.
ŌĆ£PureŌĆØ free will doesnŌĆÖt exist. The human ability to make choices though, does.ŌĆØ
Excellent point! We have finite choices, but we can select from within this finite selection a choice.
WHY do you make the choices you do? That’s the kicker…
If there’s no free will, then I can’t stop myself from making fun of fatties. It’s not my fault, I don’t have a choice. Stop blaming me, moo cows.
To a certain extent you’re right. Serenity prayer, my friend (and I’m an atheist).
IŌĆÖm an atheist.
Well blow me down with a feather.
Alt.: Blow me.
Jay this seems really confused to me. Everything you’re saying could just as easily apply to Beta males. Sure, beta behavior (along with every other behavior) is some amalgam of genetics guided by environment. But clearly Beta behavior can change and the incentive structure society places upon it have a strong effect on that change. Some men have an aversion to risk and discomfort (say natural beta inclinations) and we can see that their likelihood of overcoming that is going to be deeply related to the rewards (and more importantly their understanding of the relationship between the behavior and said rewards.)
So the question is just one of degree re: the malleability of fatty behaviors. Its possible that fattys on the whole are largely hopeless, and that no adjustment of the incentive structure would impact their behavior. But that doesn’t seem obviously likely; some fatty’s may simply misunderstand the incentive structure (buy into fat beauty.) If we look at fatty behavior as a continuum we are almost assured to find individuals for whom the “gorge or not gorge” decision is fairly close. These people would be very susceptible to minor changes in the reward structure. In that context a regime of fat shame could go a long way to make real lives more worth living. Its even possible that the majority of fattys fall into this category, in which case not fat shaming is a monstrous crime against human flourishing.
“Everything youŌĆÖre saying could just as easily apply to Beta males.”
Actually, there’s a little bit of bullshit there too, but that’s for another day.
“So the question is just one of degree re: the malleability of fatty behaviors.”
That’s always the question when one talks about heredity, since people think (largely incorrectly) heritable = immutable.
“Its possible that fattys on the whole are largely hopeless, and that no adjustment of the incentive structure would impact their behavior. But that doesnŌĆÖt seem obviously likely”
Most people will remain fat even in a more shameful world. Isn’t the (largely futile) obsession with diet and exercise enough evidence that most overweight people know that they’re overweight already?
Doing diet and exercise all wrong doesn’t help these fatties. They get all mad at you if you point out how to improve so they can see results.
As someone who use to be fat, I have to say it is choice. Personal experience tells me heredity that leads to easy weight gain can be overcome… if you choose to. Hard part is learning you have them and what are the good ones for your type and lifestyle. Shit they should teach kids in high school but that would actually be useful for our society so can’t have that.
Because I been there, I have no sympathy for fat people becuase they choose to be fat and I know it is a choice to be that way.
“As someone who use to be fat, I have to say it is choice. Personal experience tells me heredity that leads to easy weight gain can be overcomeŌĆ””
Heredity is involved in choices…
Yup, there is yet another response from me to this that sits in the spam filter…
Welcome to the party, pal.
I’m with you jayman. A so iety with fewer fatties but shot through with cruelty and rudeness to total strangers is one i prefer not to live in. Think of all the negative externalities possible if such itolerance is encouraged. What else would such a society find acceptable
Precisely. Too bad there’s not Facebook “Like” here…
H said: [One question: How did all those pre-1970 Americans (90+%) manage to stay thin their whole lives?]
1. They smoked cigarettes.
2. They hadn’t been raised *entirely* on processed foods. That juggernaut was juuuuuust starting to roll.
3. Pre-autos, they had to pull their families’ groceries home from the store by hand. That’s a calorie burner if there ever was one. And it’s unavoidable.
@Jay man
Nice list of stupid excuses…you’ve been brainwashed well
Less food….more work…..lose weight ……simple
How many American fat f*cks do you see in pictures of Vietnam prison camps…..none……
It’s not American or genetic……it’s being willfull enough and diciplined enough to eat less and work out more……
people like you are the reason along with the American food industry thay we are in the fat f*ck epidemic that we are in
The nuances of the argument such as the importance of environment to the expression of heritable traits may indeed be lost on most people.
But, what canya do?
I won’t say fatness is this or that. I won’t say fatness is excusable.
What is different from the Pre-1970′s? We grow tons of shit you can’t use for human food without modifying the shit out of it, or feeding it to animals that turn fattier themselves.
Pre-1970′s Americans had far less choices for cheap, calorie laden, unhealthy as fuck, food. We made fatty, unhealthy, shit cheap. We made healthy food (by comparison) expensive. A jar of raspberry jam costs a couple bucks. A pint of raspberries? Approximately $3.75. This goes across the board. Add in the fattier, but cheaper, meat and you a recipe for obesity.
So you can lay some of this on Earl Butz for helping create the agricultural system that made shit food cheap. You can blame others for encouraging fat acceptance. Both played their part.
Yup, comment is in the spam filter again (it’s loaded with links). Just giving you the heads up, thanx.
Also fat is not only related to what you shovel into your mouth…but also your attitude.
Angry and stressed out people get fatter easier. Now it may be like a chicken-egg scenerio…but I think stress and anger is the trigger to weight gain.
duly noted.
Well, we just officially declared war on fat people. Doors were always a certain size, made under the maximum size two people can go through simultaneously.
Yes, my wife has been packing on the porkage over the course of a fifteen year marriage. In my blue pill days, begging, cajoling, hinting and the occasional out and out confrontation all failed. She admitted that she needed to lose weight, but it was haaard. Off course, this kind of talk put our sex life into an intermittent coma. Kids are involved so walking out wasnŌĆÖt a terrific option. However, I started getting some ass on the side, took the red pill and then the punany really started rolling in. I did this with the realization that if I got caught, all hell would break loose and I steeled myself for that possibility. Recently I got caught red handed with a hottie 20 years my junior. I apologized but advised the not so little lady that yes, this was all about attraction and sex, and nothing else. She was devastated but shockingly, she came around, melted in my arms and said I appreciate you and I will make an earnest effort to lose weight. This is a tribute to DREAD, of course. So far, she is on course and has lost about twenty five pounds. The jury is still out, but things look promising. So, to those in my situation, please realize, dread game is your friend. Of course, divorce rape is an issue. In my case, the threat of divorce rape is minimized by the fact that she has a well paying job. IŌĆÖd be on the hook for child support, but whatever, itŌĆÖs WORTH it.
Just demand 50% custody. Or better still “offer” to take primary custody. The courts in many places are swinging back to no child support for a 50% split and if you’re faced with divorce, look up your local “father’s rights” lawyer.
get her step arobics hour a day should do it
How are you going to handle her looking over your shoulder now? Its not like you’re going to give up on younger ass after all…i sure as hell wouldn’t. Getting caught sucks.
IŌĆÖm more than willing to put aside the young, tight, hotness as long as wifey is holding up her end of the bargain. I went into the marriage with the reasonable expectation that sheŌĆÖd age, get wrinkly, stuff would start to sag, etc. What I did not bargain for and will not tolerate is her neglect of something she can control, her weight. At my age, I probably got another 15 to 20 years of a decent sex life and IŌĆÖm not wasting it with someone who isnŌĆÖt going to respect herself, her husband and our marriage. Sure, I do and will miss the strange, but hey, thatŌĆÖs what my beta self signed up for 15 years ago, so IŌĆÖm willing to honor the contract as long as both parties are living up to their obligations. Had I taken the red pill pre-marriage, IŌĆÖd probably be a single man today. With options. Spinning plates. Sigh …..
This is a tribute to DREAD, of course. So far, she is on course and has lost about twenty five pounds. The jury is still out, but things look promising. So, to those in my situation, please realize, dread game is your friend. Of course, divorce rape is an issue. In my case, the threat of divorce rape is minimized by the fact that she has a well paying job.
Dread game is alpha. Women divorce betas.
Fat chick: How dare you say that to my face?
Al: I’d say it behind your back but my cars only got half a tank of gas
As someone who exercises and tries to eat healthy, I’m on the belief that NO ONE should be fat. It’s pretty damn easy to maintain a healthy weight, and any excess weight a person has is directly proportional to the excess crap they put into their diets.
Over the past several years my mother has put on a lot of weight which has caused many health issues (Joint and back problems, borderline diabetes). I’ve tried telling her to eat better for her health, because I hate seeing her that way (Of course I also have to mention that she’ll look better – Adding in something superficial like that is the only way to get a woman’s attention). But of course bringing this up leads to her getting angry and snapping at me. If she was really happy with her body and diet, would she snap at me? It’s clear that she wants to get healthier, but she’s probably too unmotivated to stop it.
Deep down women know that men want them to be slender. This is why chicks work out when single and fatten up when they have a man (They have their goal and don’t need to be appealing anymore). As un-PC as it is, we have to start shaming fat chicks and let them know that we won’t accept their fat rolls anymore. Other “lifestyle choices” like smoking have been demonized – Why can’t we turn fat chicks into social pariahs?
And lastly, if you want American women to shape up, do one thing – STOP FUCKING FAT CHICKS!!!!!! This validates them and makes them feel sexy. If you fuck a chick that is of an unhealthy BMI then hang your head in shame, because you’re contributing to the hambeast problem in this country.
How ’bout if you bang ‘em and make ‘em feel humiliated and dirty and ashamed? Can we do that still?
That could work in theory, except that you’re still giving sex to her. Even if you’re humiliating her and your concept of dirty talk is calling her a fat pig, the fact that your dick is inside her is still validation that she has sex appeal – Why would she improve herself if she can still get sex as a land beast?
Still sex. She’ll hamsterize that you like rough sex.
Should I add… part of the hamster process to be accepted and sexy is to be selected for flirt/ONS. The fats will have to be invisible to all men to try to change their own bodies.
And you can be sure, some will continue to be stubbornly fat and angry…
beta males luvvvvvv fat chicks
Shaming is used, and works in many contexts. These include: smokers; racists; cheaters; slutty behavior; charity; lazy behavior; getting your neighbor to mow his lawn; and many other areas. Why is shaming fatties, especially fat women, so taboo? Is it because it cuts to the core of a womanŌĆÖs SMV? CH has written that the closer one comes to defining a womanŌĆÖs true SMV, the louder she will shriek. Is that what this is about? If so, are the fat acceptance and ŌĆ£health at any sizeŌĆØ agendas feminist induced smokescreens to blur or bend the SMV of all women. Shame on them.
What is worst in life?
A porker with tattoos, for she has delusions that they somehow add to her beauty and is resigned to being that size for the rest of her life. Otherwise sheŌĆÖd never have printed an image on her flesh if its dimensions were going to change.
Part of this is the stupid notion force-fed (heh) to us that we should love people for who they are, not how they look. Women these days truly have never had someone directly say to them “nobody wants to fuck you or stay with you because you’re fat.” Society used to do this for them–mothers, grandmothers, aunts, finishing schools, etc. Now it’s all body positive imagery and blaming men for not wanting infertile porkers.
Meanwhile, fat apologists operate under the assumption that changing other people is easier than changing oneself.
had a chick that LJBF’d me in italy get stationed with me in NO. i picked her up at the airport and i let her stay at my place. she asked me to take her to the quarter, she got drunk, and i ONS’d her. she was a hard 7.
6 months later she had gained 30 pounds and had a FUPA you could see from behind. she was PISSED that guys didn’t pay attention to her (she was about 23 at the time).
personally, if i can’t pick her up, throw her over my shoulder (or am disgusted by the thought of it), i’m not putting my mule inside her.
exwife kind of looked like newly aloofs pic of chick but man yea after we got married i saw pic recently my chick found and wow she had bulked up
i didn’t notice it happen i think it can creap up on ya pretty quick
chick was looking at me like that was your bitch lol for real he he he
no wonder i told her to leave before
One of the few useful NYBetaTimes articles:
Study Says Women With Mate Get Heavier
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/05/health/05weight.html
The average 20-year-old woman will gain 10-15 pounds over ten years. This study was conducted 1996-2006, so it’s already outdated. Who knows what the average is now.
If a woman doesn’t exercise or practice portion control in her 20s, her body will be a disaster in her 30s. It’s not just age that causes women to hit the wall, but bad/lazy lifestyle habits!
I live in CO with all the thin girls! We run the fatties out of the state!
don’t happen to often but yea i was embarassed
not embarassed of my former drug using ho but embarassed of a fat chick he he he
Callahan says that “the obvious target would be the large number of people who are unaware that they are overweight.” How is this possible? I don’t believe that fat people don’t know they are fat.
[Heartiste: Not so much unaware as unconcerned. Too many fatties don’t give a shit about their wretched conditions, or actually believe “fat is beautiful”. It is those who will most benefit from a massive, all-out shaming campaign.]
Actually there is a point of becoming “unaware”. The market and the evolution forces are at work and that’s what worries me the most. First of all it’s changing definitions: small, mid-size, big are all re-defined what is medium today was big or biggest in the past. Many statistics don’t even bother to count overweight people (about 70%) but only the obese (about 25-30%). In the ocean of fatness an overweight might look like average. Just got back from a trip in Asia and it is amazing how an average body looks quite large in a sea of thin and beautifully shaped bodies.
[Heartiste: You’re absolutely right. Proof of this is the fact that the average American weight was lower fifty years ago than it is today. See: 1959 MetLife charts. Our sense of what constitutes “fat” has shifted upwards, to everyone’s detriment.]
And the evolution works as well by selecting for males who are capable to have an erection from fatties. I cannot
As my friend put it recently: “What shocks me when I see a couple with a fat wife, slender husband and a child is that this image is a proof that that guy had at least one erection with her:)”
[I dunno if evolution is selecting *for* men who can get it up for fatties. Rather, what I think is happening is that evolution is selecting *against* men who use birth control, or who date girls who use birth control. Since men who dumpster dive with fatties are more impulsive, less discriminating and more desperate for sexual relief, you’d expect to find among them a greater willingness to settle for suboptimal women, or at least a greater resignation to their dreary fatty fucker fates. Among these men, there will also be less diligence about using birth control. Anyhow, the premise that men who can get it up for fat women is proof that these men *prefer* fat women is flawed. Some men can get it up for goats, but they’d choose hot, slender women if they had the choice.]
Almost all over the American girls I see in public are overweight. Unfortunately, this uniform heaviness has the effect of hiding/diminishing the appearance of largeness, as none of them stand out (unless she is REALLY overweight). What breaks this spell (fat hypnosis?) is seeing a Chinese or other Asian girl in the same setting. The contrast between the uncommonly thin Chinese girl and the rest is striking.
On a related note, the movie “Branded” had a plot of evil advertisers for a fast food company trying to move the public’s preference from fat acceptance to fat desirability. Over time, even the models got fat. Interesting movie, and unlikely to ever come to pass as biology is too strong.
It’s called social norming. You don’t drink too much. Hell, your pals all throw back 8 brewskies a night. She’s not a slut. All of her friends have boned 4 dudes this month.
And finally: I’m not fat. All of my other friends have this height-to-weight ratio. That’s why her fat friends want her to stay fat, her slutty friends want her to stay slutty, her drunk friends want her to stay drunk, and her divorced friends want her to hop on the wagon.
Also, beware: fatties hate the height-to-weight ratio and tell everybody who will listen that it’s an inaccurate model. They are right, after a fashion. If you are muscular, height-to-weight means nothing to you. I don’t think many people pointing their porky fingers at that model have to worry about the muscle-mass clause. Instead, they rectify the cognitive dissonance by pretending the model is ineffective and the doctor is wrong.
Hah yeah, scoffing at the model doesn’t make you any less fat. Of course numbers on a scale don’t matter, I don’t need to know how much a woman weighs to determine whether she’s fat. I could just as easily discern that in a low to no gravity environment, although it takes way too much fuel to shoot those porkers into space. The mirror doesn’t lie.
I would actually love to gain about 10-20 lbs. For all that Heartiste says about fat women being unattractive, I took the dating market value test for women and I actually got docked points for being too thin. Maybe Heartiste could finally make a post as to what men think of women who are too thin?
[Heartiste: For women, thinner is always better than fatter, unless a threshold point is reached where the thin woman begins to take on the contours of undernourishment. Now, interestingly, this “skinny threshold” is generally closer to the ideal female weight range, than is the “shambling mound threshold”. That is, a woman of ideal weight — say BMI 19 — wouldn’t have to go far in the weight loss direction before she started to look too bony and emaciated to visually please men. In contrast, a woman at the same ideal BMI 19 would have to put on considerable weight before she started to look too fat for even desperate beta males to consider attractive. Most ideal weight women are on the lower end of the sexually attractive BMI range for females and, therefore, have more leeway in the upward direction than they do in the downward direction. But here’s the catch: it’s a LOT harder for most women to lose that last 15 pounds which demarcates sexily slender from sickly stick-like than it is to pack on 40 donut-fed pounds which pushes a woman into the unfuckable category. This explains why there are so many more fatties than anorexics.
Note, too, that women can get away with a 10 pound or so weight gain (and by “get away with” I mean they won’t suffer a lack of attention from betas, though they may see their alpha male pool dry up a little) as long as the gain is distributed to their hips, ass and tits in a pleasing manner, i.e. free of cellulite. Since most women do not gain weight in the optimal pleasing manner, it’s best just to make sure you stay within that golden 17-23 BMI range (where you fall within that range is influenced by your frame size).
PS Are you a troll? I ask sincerely. It’s ok to speak truthfully. I won’t bite… a little.]
Eat paleo/primal (for your tits) and do squats (for your ass).
gain muscle then.
how do you get comments so fast?
This video is very relevant. Everyone here should watch it as it shows some interesting facts like debunking that CDC chart.
I made it to 0:01:16
Aww… the rheumy eyes, whiny bleating voice and horse-head nodding…. Manboob Alert!!! xD
He is certainly not a very suave or funny person but what he’s saying is quite interesting.
The video is somewhat more rustic than we’ve come to expect from the lying cocksuckers in the mainstream-everything.
Randy pities the poor fool who can’t get past that.
Thanks for embedding, Loc. I watched the whole thing. We’re telling fatties to get their act together. It’s nice to know the “how” of that.
The spectacular examples of govt/institutional corruption and leftist pseudo-science are just icing on the cake.
Paging Captain Obvious… feminazis pay attention.
I work in a life-guard department at a theme park. I see thousands of people a day in bikinis. Let me be be clear: humans (especially those of us in the US) are objectively fatter than ever before. If that were the only problem, we’d be ok. Americans are a tough breed and have (or had) a tendency to self-correct when we had a problem. That’s changed.
In this new self-help pseudopsychological culture, inner-zen trumps reality. These fat chicks (and fat men) are told beauty is a matter of character. Let me tell you, when you’ve seen a 5’5″ 250 lb woman “werking it” in a two-piece thong set it’s like drinking a handle of bathtub-gin. You’re blinded, nauseous, and questioning your life decisions.
The problem is that the above woman is unaware that she’s obese. She really doesn’t believe she’s fat, at least on the surface level. This is another part of the feminista war on reality. She even has the social-norming help of looking at all of her fat friends. Another secret is that her fat friends will sabotage her efforts to rein in the lard because it makes them look worse (same thing with binge-drinking and whorish behavior).
I have a simple and more-or-less effective way to judge whether a woman is psychologically equipped with the toughness to stay thin in this society. If a girl graduates from college with a fit body, she has developed effective habits for ensuring her health in most cases. A good amount of thin women in college are so because they are still coasting off their metabolism. Women’s bodies tend to gear down at that time, and the binge-drinking and overeating will turn her into inflate-a-whore in no time.
22 and 23 year old women who are fit are so because they eat healthy, exercise regularly, or both. These are stable habits and ones unlikely to drop off (with the possible exception of college athletes who have no incentive to work anymore). What’s more, nobody hats fat women like fit women, although they aren’t allowed to mock them openly.
The test of Gen Y is whether men will “man up” and marry some porker with her fattitude or skip out and dey more womyns their marriage rights.
Great comment. Post more often.
agree with jason, update your blog man. the masses need to be saved.
+1
I agree this is a great comment. However, I could have done without the following mental image being planted in my brain:
“These fat chicks (and fat men) are told beauty is a matter of character. Let me tell you, when youŌĆÖve seen a 5ŌĆÖ5ŌĆ│ 250 lb woman ŌĆ£werking itŌĆØ in a two-piece thong set itŌĆÖs like drinking a handle of bathtub-gin.”
Aahahahahahahahahahahaah.
I notice this so much with the tourists in my town. My area is basically a freak show of very good looking, very fit, gym obsessed men and women.
You see the tourist women from flyover country walking around in their size 12 capris and their baggy empire waist shirts and you can just see the defeat and hatred in their eyes. They may be “normal” in Ohio…but here they stand out horribly. You also catch the (usually less fat) husbands walking around, oogling the talent and they look so confused and beaten down, looking at all the beautiful women their wive’s age. Women with kids who don’t let themselves go. Imagine that!
“Wait, 35+ women with 3 kids can be a size 4? What the fuck?” You can literally see their minds being blown.
My mom’s friend recently came down from some flyover, and she was very uncomfortable. It is the ultimate fat shaming. The Europeans fit in nicely though, usually.
just curious. what town do you live in?
Miami Beach. Miami is a hot mess, btw, but The Beach is glorious!
Miami Beach is like a whole different city in terms of women – if you’re an ass guy, MB’s the place for you. 8s 9s & 10s galore. The women in actual Miami city can go either way (though for some reason they still have ass too), I spent the first 18 years of my life there thank God
though for some reason they still have ass too
Bienvenido a Miami. No puedo comprender why that particular population boasts so much ass. ┬┐T├║?
Colombians, Cubans and the other Afro-Caribbeans. Este lugar de bien culo, de vera.
There was an article in the “new york magazine” in 2005 that was about women who had bariatric surgery. Somehow it isn’t on the web now. Married women who were fat before they got married have a massive divorce rate after bariatric surgery. I worked with a guy that this happened to. Married women who got fat during the marriage have a much lower divorce rate after bariatric surgery.
There’s a lot of anecdotal evidence out there, but was this what you’re referring to? http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2001/07/09/010709fa_fact_gawande
It was a cover story:
http://doryferraro.com/news.html
They probably pulled the link at new york magazine because of this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1312609/Former-New-York-magazine-cover-girl-dead-gunshot-suicide.html
I think it was anecdotal evidence based on what the doctor in his patients.
Fucking epic.post. hall of fame. Thus should be a definitive post on the subject of American obesity. Manosphere and elsewhere. Bravo. Im buying your book the second its available.
CH, I love your writing. This post also explains why white men tend to prefer Asian women. Asian women keep a slimmer figure throughout adulthood, even after childbearing. As an Asian guy, I used to think it was a complete fetish thing and white men enjoying the “submissive, mysterious” nature of Asian women but it might boil down to something more obvious.
From what I can tell, it’s a particular type of white man who suffers from yellow fever. It’s either a) someone who’s spent a lot of time in Asia, b) an overly refined aesthete who spends twenty minutes adjusting a single lily in a vase just so, or c) an authoritarian military man.
Nah man, it’s only computer science nerds with anime tentacle rape porn fetishes that are in to asian women. To the rest of us they look alien and are almost indistinguishablefrom asian men.
Nope. Theyre beautiful and yes,I’ll say it,exotic. True,many of them look like monkeys,lol. But the beautiful ones are stunning.
Been living in Asia for 16 years. Every time I go back to the USSA, I’m shocked at the…um… inflation rate. Lots of beautiful Asian women. It’s not yellow fever, it’s women that are femimine and attractive.
Thank god, finally a comment from someone who lives in Asia and therefore knows what the fuck they’re talking about with respect to Asian women.
I know a few white guys with Asian wives (I lived in Asia)…they didn’t care if she was a bitch or not that cute in the face. “Oh god, she’s thin! And she’ll be thin forever!”
Guys care a lot more about this than they let on.
However, I don’t much support White on Asian pairings. It makes White guys look beta, and it is sad when your kids look nothing like you. It’s kind of rude to Asian guys too, like White women dating Black guys.
The take-home message is that if white chicks stopped getting fat, white guys wouldn’t be going after funny-looking Asian chicks.
correct. it also should be noted that time is much kinder to asian women.
Nawh, its that time is brutal to white women and white men.
Black dont crack?
Having lived in Asia, I find this statement to be a canard, mostly used by guys with yellow fever. Asian women hit the wall just as hard as other women, especially since (in their home countries) they tend to give up on trying to look cute after they have their kids (they’re still thin but they cut their hair short and wear really unflattering clothes).
Not to mention the huge amount of plastic surgery done there kind of skews the stats. Your kids won’t look like you, but they probably won’t even look like your Asian wife.
However, I will say that Caucasian women, especially those of the Nordic variety really need to follow the Asian model of sun avoidance. Time would be much kinder to White women if they followed proper skin care and used sunscreen.
“Cut their hair short…” Go look at a YouTube clip of John & Yoko in their early days. They look incredibly young and Yoko just about veers on the precipice of being fuckable. Look at her in the later days:BLECH
Oh god, sheŌĆÖs thin! And sheŌĆÖll be thin forever
if they keep eating an asian diet, then yes for the most part.
but stuff an asian girl with shitty western food and she will balloon like all the others.
i live in a neighborhood with a large asian population and the thin asian girls are recent arrivals from asia. the girls who were born here in the states and raised on a typical american diet vary from thick to morbidly obese.
They also tend to gain weight under the muscle, so they look like stuffed sauasages.
Are you per chance white and mostly into white guys? You don’t like white+asian pairings because it gives the white men other (better) options.
So what if the guy looks beta, if he’s with a thin Asian he’s a lot better off than with a fat white girl. Even I recognize this and I’m as racist as they come. Tough luck for the Asian guys but it’s a dog eat dog world.
I am white and married to a white man. I am personally against White/Asian pairings because I am against miscegenation in general. It’s not personal.
Reasonably attractive men and women don’t need to settle for consolation prizes, even if the pickings are slim.
even if the pickings are slim
Nice play on words.
I am against miscegenation in general
Clio may have been the first traditionalist chick on this blog, but she was still one foot deep in liberalism; you’re not.
The problem is that reasonably attractive men outnumber reasonably attractive women by a wide (heh) margin. Personally, I’d rather have my fellow white man be happy with an Asian than miserable with a white blimpzilla.
Miscegenation isn’t a problem with me. I don’t want to get married or have kids. Why would I want to ruin my life like that?
That’s pretty much it in most cases. There are some guys who truly have “yellow fever”, but most are just want a non-fattie and Asian girls are the main supply. Sadly, even this is beginning to change for US born Asian women as the American diet has become so bad that even they are getting fat.
20 years ago I rarely saw fat Asian girls.
“A leading health academic has called for fat people to be ŌĆśshamed and beat upon sociallyŌĆÖ in order to halt the obesity crisis.”
This needs to be shouted from the rooftops. Instead your typical liberal solution to everything is “education.” It always fails! This follows from their blank statism in that they think then can place a belief on the blank slate by education, and that it will now be written on the mind, and the mind will now work on that belief. All wrong! They think that education can prevent teenage pregnancy. That education can stop drugs. That education can stop poverty. That education can stop obesity, and so on. Education never motivates behavior! What motivates behavior are biological needs, and then social stigma (which is itself a biological need). But liberals whine “oh no, it would be mean to stigmatize single mothers! Think how they would FEEL!” Lo and behold, the stigma is removed and single motherhood explodes.
A corollary:
“Soft drinks, candy, cookies, snack crackers, and ice cream are food items and are therefore eligible items.”
This comes from an article discussing food stamp use soaring, and stigma fading (by government design, by the way).
That pesky “stigma”!
You know what the big secret is though? It’s not that hard to be thin. I am thin, and I know what I eat. I indulge in crap all the time. I have dessert almost every day, and it was uncommon for my husband and I to polish off an entire XL pizza after spending the night before drinking beer on the weekend. Of course, we hit the gym and in general are not gluttons, but the point is that the myth of thin women living at the gym and depriving themselves of everything is just that.
The amount of gluttony and sloth that it takes for someone to be overweight is staggering. You have to really try to become obese. It doesn’t just happen.
I can’t find it now, but there was a thread on Reddit (r/loseit) where people were honestly talking about how they ate when they were fat (before they lost weight) ……it consisted of multiple king sized candy bars a day…driving to both McDs AND Burger King for lunch. EVERY DAY. Eating entire pizzas every day. It’s hard work and expensive, man. No excuses.
*not uncommon
Sugar urges only last one day, but every day you take it your ability to resist temptations in general goes down forever.
Nonsense. I was overweight and never ate that much.
some people are blessed with the ability to eat a lot of junk and not put on weight easily, you happen to fall into that category.
The large majority of the population has a difference in metabolic rate of about 200 calories, i.e. one cookie. If you compare someone in the 95th percentile of fast metabolism and someone in the 5th percentile, the difference is around 600 calories.
But IN GENERAL, there is not much difference in metabolic rates. However, there IS a difference in leptin, which allows some people to feel full much faster and eat less.
http://examine.com/faq/does-metabolism-vary-between-two-people.html
“The amount of gluttony and sloth that it takes for someone to be overweight is staggering” – not so true if your metabolism is as slow as mine.
I merely have to look at a snickers bar for the thing to latch on to my stomach as though it was an alien babe that somehow missed my face. That being said: I am in rather good shape (a manly V-shape, that is), but I eat less than many people half my size and have to compensate for every spoon of nourishment with a chin-up, a clean and jerk or some other exercise.
I’m not complaining, for such are the realities of life, but don’t kid yourself: Unless you are the winner in the genetic lottery, living through 21st century consumerism AND staying in shape requires a lot of self discipline.
lol at all the fatties making excuses
Really? How old are you? To maintain 125-130 at 5’7″ I juice/salad during the day and eat a small meal for dinner. No junk food or snacks, ever. No white carbs. I occasionally (1-2 month) share a dessert when eating out. I never drink beer, but occasionally have wine with dinner. It isn’t easy, and it does get harder as we age, for both men and women. Admittedly genetics play a role. But the myth that you are inhaling pizza and beer and still maintaining a fit shape sounds unbelievable. I find it refreshing and motivating when thin women actually admit to the behaviors that yield a desirable body type. Most are eating a diet that looks nothing like yours.
I only eat once a day on the weekdays, so that probably plays into account. I have a green juice in the morning and then a big lunch of whatever and a small dessert. Usually no dinner, no snacks- can’t be bothered….Never said indulgences were my main source of calories, but I definitely eat what I want on the weekends, usually once or twice a day, never three squares. I also work out and live in a fairly urban place where I can walk everywhere.
Youre skinner than me though, I was 121lbs at 5’4 before I got pregnant.
No joke…I wasn’t overweight to begin with but when I quit drinking soda that was the easiest 10 pounds I ever lost.
Easiest 180lbs I ever lost was dumping a left-wing feminazi back in college.
RAPE!
Funny how femcunts bellow.”Women do NOT lie about rape!!”,while at the same time enjoying mightily the power to terrorize men with the possibilty of…lying about rape! I truly hate,hate,hate femcunts!!
Wouldn’t dating a fat chick be a great way to buy above your purchasing power? If you’re only marginally attractive, you can just date/marry a fat chick, shame her into losing weight – which is apparently pretty easy – and end up with a much hotter babe than you could otherwise hope to get. If you’re alpha enough and can keep her in line by reminding her of her past heifferness, it should be easy to get her to stay with you once hot. It’s not something a strong alpha would do, but it seems like a pretty solid investment for lesser men. Perhaps the Chateau should discuss this strategy?
Problem is unless you keep her locked up she will start to realize that she has become attractive. If you were alpha enough to deal with the new attention she is receiving I doubt there would be a need to enact such a strategy in the first place.
I forgot to include a link to the story, which is here: http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/The-Circle-Bastiat/2011/0318/Swiping-away-food-stamps-stigma.
You know, I wouldn’t care if it was healthy food they bought. People can genuinely fall on hard times (see the housing / real estate fraud by borrowers and bankers) through no direct cause of their own. My mom was on food stamps for a year while she got real work. My dad became a drunk and got killed in a car wreck. Suddenly she had to get a job and support two kids.
She got real work and raised us, without assistance.
Women have more incentive than ever before to lose weight because so many of their competitors have eaten their way to the bottom of the sexual market hierarchy. ItŌĆÖs hard to believe how many of them forego exercise and embrace dessert when so much is at stake.
I had a coworker go from a 6 to an 8 in three months. She was mildly attractive to begin with, then she lost 10-15 pounds (sheŌĆÖs 5ŌĆÖ1 so thatŌĆÖs substantial) and changed her hair style. ThatŌĆÖs it: a $60 pair of running shoes and two hours a week of running was all it cost. Wisely, she cashed in and got married at 25.
Just as much reason why men have incentive to learn game.
Let the haters hate.
Shaming didn’t take the “””racist””” put of me. I’m still white, after all, and everyone knows we’re “evil wacists” by default.
It worked like a charm on most white Republicans. In fact, liberals are slightly more likely to tolerate wacist views than conservatives now.
http://www.volokh.com/2012/11/18/are-liberal-or-conservative-americans-more-likely-to-support-restrictions-on-racist-and-anti-religious-speech/
Well, and us evil southern white types actually LIVE AND WORK WITH black people, as opposed that whole “I’m a yankee and can’t be racist, but don’t know a single person of color who’s not gay” SWPL thing.
Now that you mention it… for some reason, a disproportionate number of Diverse males around here are queers. Hmm…
My best friends are gay. My boss — the best boss I’ve ever had in my life — is black. And I am DEEP in the heart of Texas.
Way different than living in Chicago — dear GOD were the white people there bigoted as shit, and wouldn’t admit it for a heartbeat.
Awww shucks! He likes negroes! Bless your heart dear.(Rolls eyes.)
3/10 Come on, dude, you can troll better than THAT.
When I worked in a steel mill in Pittsburgh long ago, my favorite foreman was black and he was not a racist. He worked hard and expected us to work hard. I did and never had a problem with him, nor he with me. If you didn’t do your job, you had a problem with him, regardless of race.
I definitely believe it. Neo-cons are everywhere. Typically, it’s your WASPs adopting the 3rd world. At least the liberals don’t reproduce. I’m a Christian, but man… Do the evangelicals at the moment really irk me.
That’s the best thing about living in Asia. You don’t have to deal with all the Christian bullshit.
A+
Here in North County Coastal San Diego there are literally no fat people, except in the summer, when the Zonies show up drinking their 24os frappacinos.
Brief summary: Me, 37… single, 3 children… still “date” 20-25 year old HB6-9′s on the regular. Had an email discussion regarding why I recently just dropped all my plates after new years in order to get some different things situated, set forth a new plan for things in order to make this year better than the next. I do this every year, REGARDLESS of how “quality” any of my plates are at that time.
Here is her (29 year old HB6.5 on a good day, just friends, banged her twice a few years ago..HB8 back then… Now JUST FRIENDS) response.
“Oh boy. Narcissism much?
I say these words out of love, because I sincerely care about you.
I don’t need you to change or be fixed or anything.
I don’t even need you to get defensive.
I’d just like you to hear me out.
First of all, the photo illustration you used of Sharon Stone (photo located in a post here at Le Chateau with “31 year old women” in the title) was disingenuous to say the least. You’re comparing an airbrushed studio shot of a young Sharon Stone with a raw paparazzi shot of her 10 years later. Um, not a great example.
Most importantly, what about your children…. especially your smart, beautiful daughter? It makes my heart hurt to think of her as one of these young women. Is that how you expect her to be treated when she gets older? You don’t want her to be treated like the princess she is, even once she starts to age out of youth? Your philosophy is basically saying that after the age of 30, women are quite useless and will suck the life and money out of ambitious, charming men, like yourself. Men should simply use the young ones and then let them fend for themselves, or maybe they will get lucky and snag a dumb guy that will “sacrifice” all that he has for the sake of his relationship. That’s a great outlook for your kids.
I fear that as you get older and become much less charming and attractive, your whole philosophy will come crumbling down and you will forced to PAY (financial sacrifices!) these young women to even sit next to you. You think 20 years olds blow old man dick for fun??
I think you like them for the exact reasons you say you don’t <3
I don’t know the history with your family. You’ve always just told me you have none. I just hope the same doesn’t happen with your children, because in the end, they may be your only saving grace when you find yourself old and alone. You certainly won’t have a women by your side at that point, unless you’re paying her.
One more thing, women are genetically coded to be loving, nurturing creatures. That is the way we were designed by our Creator. You are abusing that beautiful gift we give and I don’t want it to come back and bite you in the saggy, old man ass……………but I’m sure you’ll be fine.”
Hey, at least they are consistent, if nothing else, eh?
I have an IDEA of how I would like to respond to to her questions, especially in regards to my 3 year old daughter.. But would like some feedback.
I’d LOVE to just link her to a post/response by The Lords of Le Chateau..
appropriate response:
‘ok’
What the fuck are “plates”??
Ha ha. You’re not cool enough to know. Somebody needs to earn his “manosphere” card.
Much like commenter Spankie, I dreaded my girlfriend into considerable weight loss (The word works like that now, deal with it). Beyond saving our relationship, I think that episode holds an important lesson for the implementation of fatty shaming. (My phone’s auto-correct didn’t recognize shaming as a word, almost surprising!) We can’t expect women, the general enforcers of cultural norms, to enforce a thin agenda; they have shown their preference for fat acceptance-as-sabotage. We can, however, use visable, pinnacle alphas as tools for spreading mass-dread. Imagine a sequel to twilight, where RPat leaves KStew for failing to lose the baby weight. Imagine The Jonas Brothers (or their current equivalent) vocally refusing to date, or even acknowledge, fatties. Imagine the harmonious flatulance of all that cognitive dissonance unraveling at once.
The difficulty lies in the fact that the media forces capable of this noble undertaking are those with the strongest interests in continuing their campaign of lies.
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Feminism causes fat. Everyone is at work all the time. No one is home to shop for real fresh food, let alone cook it every night. So everyone is eating out of a box/carbing it up. Usually men get away with this longer than women, but eventually the fat arrives on everyone unless and until they figure out how to cook (or, as often happens with women, develop an eating disorder).
Wah! I WAS one of those fat bitches. Pregnancy. Gained 60-70 pounds EVERY TIME.
Yep.
Sorry haters.
Aaaaaand I took one look at myself in a mirror three months after spitting out the lastest JB junior, and then watched my husband walk out the door, 6’2 and 200 lbs, off to work with plenty of young, nubile ladies who would loooove to replace me, and guess what?
Hello, calorie counting app.
Fifteen years and three kids later, and I weigh two pounds more than when we met, and those two pounds are gonna die a sad, painful death if it fucking kills me.
It sounds trite, but I honestly, truly, deeply believe it’s true: marriage is mostly about sex. You need to find your partner HOT. Sex is what binds you. Sex is the glue that keeps it all together. There is pretty much no limit to what you will put up with when you want to get laid. Let me see: should I bitch him out about not sorting the recycling and risk losing out on that awesome O I have planned for later, or should I go ahead and be a cunt about cardboard and find some batteries?
No contest, folks. Fuck the cat food tins.
True story: BigMike’s wife just spit out LittleMike, and she is over 200 lbs AFTER giving birth. The look on his face. He’s horrified. Especially when she texted him to “bring me a bag of ripple chips”. Oh lord. Me and Mike’sWife need to have a chat.
The moral of this story is that women WILL gain shit tons of weight when there’s a bun in the oven. DON’T PANIC!
Give her some time, and encourage her thin friends to come over a lot.
She doesn’t have any thin friends?
Dude, your’re fucked.
you my dear are a good egg.
Yup. Mrs. Happycrow did too — as I said way up above, I’m proud of the fact that she’s DOING something about it. If she weren’t it would cost her respect….and respect-death is step one in the “marriage fucked up plan.”
I think that’s part of it too, no? Like OF COURSE you prefer your wife to look as when you married her, but if you see her calorie counting and working her ass off at the gym you’re more likely to be patient with her, than if she were in her PJs eating pringles.
A legit healthy pregnancy only requires 18-20 pounds of weight gain *including* the baby. The baby is 7-10 lbs of that at the end. This gaining of 60-70 lbs is bullshit fatass laziness that is actually unhealthy for the pregnancy. Most of these women are starting out overweight in the first place.
Kudos to the woman that lost her pregnancy weight, but most don’t. No need to gain that much weight.
It’s actually 25-35 that’s needed, but I hear you.
Baby: 8 pounds
Placenta: 2-3 pounds
Amniotic fluid: 2-3 pounds
Breast tissue: 2-3 pounds
Blood supply: 4 pounds
Stored fat for delivery and breastfeeding: 5-9 pounds
Larger uterus: 2-5 pounds
Yep. We already have a longstanding agreement. I don’t get a potbelly, she doesn’t cut her fantastic hair in “old lady giving up on life style.”
Heh. Ours is, “You don’t get fat, I won’t go broke.”
The magic of dread.
Kudos to you. Just curious, how long did it take to lose the weight post birth?
Did it take very long to lose the weight? I am terrified of becoming overweight when pregnant. It’s tough though, you really do get so much hungrier, especially 2nd tri.
Christian
Since you are a troll, the response you should get would be 2 9mm Makorovs to your hind-brain.
If you want a different response, that try coming up with a more interesting scam.
According to that fat map, it appears that Memphis, Tennessee is the epicenter of American fatness.
Obesity is due to Bent Elbow Disease
…. Never met a person who got fat with straight elbows !!
Bobby Dylan explained this all so clear, though many years ago…
“ah mamma, is this really the end, to be stuck inside of Mobile with Memphis Blues again!!
Not to make excuses for them, but I think one reason black chicks are fat is their hair. They hate to exercise because sweating makes their hair unmanagable. If I were a black chick, I’d get it cut real short. Just as black dudes look good bald, black chicks look okay with short hair.
in addition, women need a safe place to run or power walk… Getting attacked or harrassed in public is one reason black females don’t exercise.
That’s a shame, especially since great results can be achieved without super-sweaty steady state cardio workouts. Powerlifting + walking + eating well can do a lot.
Listen to the POET. Dammit…
Your debuttante knows what you want; but someone else knows what you need.. Her name is candy or evette or margory.
May they never meet…
Frank Smith
needs to have everything cut off of him and fed to starving pigs. If you can not like that sort of win- win situation. you do not deserve a sane horse.
I don’t get it.
The lower classes tend to be fatter than the upper classes. Given that the real wage in the US has diminished since 1970 or so when women en masse started entering the workforce, thus meaning we are all actually poorer then than we are now, it does tend to explain the proliferation of fat women. Since Great Depression 2.0 has it’s roots approximately around 2007-08, this point is also reflected in the increase in obesity over the last 9-ish years.
Hey, feminism causes fatness, their bleatings for fatty acceptance are nothing more than efforts to divert blame from themselves.
This is a great country. Our poor people are fat.
Our poor people are fat because fatty foods are cheaper than healthy food. Tax policies drive federal money into rural areas to grow shit that is unusable in it’s normal form for food. This makes other food cheaper, but it’s unhealthy and piles on pounds while giving tons of calories.
We started our own problem, fat acceptance is just making it worse.
I’d say flat wages help cause fatness. Having to work longer hours (lower class / lower middle class especially) to try and attain the same level of prosperity is bad for your health. Fatty / sugary food (unhealthy in general) is cheaper than healthy food. Less time because of more work to make ends meet, means less time to prepare healthy meals.
These are all factors. Feminism doesn’t help much, especially with their fat acceptance cause. Still, the last 30 years has sucked for the lower classes in regards to prosperity. That has hurt healthy food buying and meals.
There’s a picture about child obesity, it has a hamburger (fatty) for $1.99 or $0.99, and a salad for $4.99.
I’ll blame income / investment tax policies for the last 30 years (as well, but not as a sole cause) driving wealth concentration. Also, food tax policies that help make unhealthy foods cheaper. You see it in other countries too, the larger gap typically signifies fatness, even in Europe. Fat acceptance earns a share as well.
I think you’re on to something, Alex. But feminism is not just on the hook for promoting an attitude of “fat acceptance.” Feminism, in driving women to work outside the home, also has contributed to the obesity epidemic, at least according to Laura Wood at The Thinking Housewife. First of all, the ingredients for a nice healthy salad do not cost 4.99 when planned for, purchased and prepared by a loving housewife. But I suspect it’s not really the ingredients that make a fast-food burger or other processed food so pernicious. It’s just that there’s virtually zero mindfulness involved in preparing and consuming such food, while all those buttery and sugary baked goods that Mom used to make require, relatively, a great deal of lead time and effort to create, such that you are more aware of what you’re doing when you eat them. I have attained much success maintaining a svelte figure for my dear husband, and I found to my surprise that allowing myself all the homemade ice cream I wanted (we have an ice cream maker) but shunning all ready-made sweets actually led to positive results.
A pound of beef will always be more expensive than a pound of lettuce. The expensive salad (which is a shitty choice anyways) is just a smart way to milk the “health conscious” customer out of more money. It’s the same scam that’s pulled with the organic food. And it’s not even the burger that gets you, it’s the fries and soda.
I’d venture to say another contributor to obesity is urban sprawl. Not only do you work long hours, you also commute another hour or two, which also makes you miserable.
Wanted to say as a divorced guy how much truth there is in this post. Both my wife and I got fat after marriage. “Happy fat” people called it. I speculate that obesity, if it didn’t kill our attraction to each other, it helper our relationship wither and die.
I should have stood up for myself. I should have demanded she maintain herself such that I could maintain a physical attraction for her. Like every body else, I kind of bought into the idea I was being “shallow” if I wanted her to be sexy to me. So personally, I find “fat acceptance” pernicious.
Hi, guys. I just have to state here that it’s at least partially your fault that your woman became fat.
If she’s really, truly in love with you she’s going to want to keep you happy. If she started getting fat after you got together, she either :
1. Didn’t love you enough to keep herself in shape for you
Or
2. Didn’t realize her looking good made you happy. (Women are usually told that as long as you treat your guy well, it doesn’t matter what you look like-so it’s not always obvious how much appearance matters).
If she was unhealthy before you got together, she either:
1. Wants to lose weight but finds it difficult (in this case, praise her and help her)
Or
2. Doesn’t care enough about herself to keep herself healthy/ Doesn’t realize how unhealthy she has become. You’ll probably want to stay away from her in this case, unless she seems open to change.
So guys, please think about all that before you settle down with her. Make sure you let her know how much her beauty means to you, and reward her for it.
Thanks for reading.
TL;DR: no fat chicks
Maintaining hand for the lazy man :
http://www.experienceproject.com/groups/Encourage-My-Girlfriend-To-Gain-Weight/2124
There are exceptions. I got friend zoned last fall by a man in favor of a woman who is about five inches shorter, seventy pounds heavier, and twenty years older than me. She’s rather domineering, so I keep telling myself that he’s too intimidated by her to break it off.
Count your blessings, that guy is quite possibly a fucking weirdo. Or you’re an utter trainwreck.
I’m not a trainwreck. At least this rejection led me to find the manosphere blogs and swallow the women’s red pill.
He may be a trainwreck if this relationship continues. He’s the one that will have to bang the “BBW” with the leather face.
That’s just your opinion my dear. In any case, good for you. Fuck him and his leather-faced hogzilla.
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“Rare exceptions prove the rule.”
i hate this saying – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy
http://isteve.blogspot.se/2006/09/exception-that-proves-rule.html
ŌĆ£Lesson Number One
Men are repulsed by the sight and feel (and smell) of fat chicks. All further lessons flow from this basic premise.ŌĆØ
LOL!! My dad is a prime example. He hates fat women. CanŌĆÖt stand to look at them, but then again heŌĆÖs no beta.
Thanks, sweetie. I knew I raised you right.
I married my ex, she was a curvy not fat at ~120lbs, she had huge boobs. A few years (and two kids) later, she had ballooned to 180lbs. She’s 5′ tall. I was no angel at 5’11″ either, I had ballooned to 270lbs. There were two differences though:
1) I was in an accident that left me unable to walk (much less run like I used to, she never ran) and I was dumb enough to keep eating 3000 calories a day. My own stupidity got me fat.
2) I was properly ashamed of how I looked, and cut back my caloric intake, and hit the gym. I got back down to a proper 170lbs in 1.5 years of hard work and sweat.
Her? I offered to watch the kids (they were asleep when I hit the gym, but she was there for them) so she could hit the gym. I made healthy meals for all of us. She never went to the gym. She never stopped filling her mouth with unhealthy shit. Soda (diet), fluff, too big portions, and so on.
She hated me being around other women, especially if they were the proper weight and showed me anything that could be perceived as affection.
In the end I divorced the fat cow, and she’s still fat. Funny thing, I didn’t divorce her because of weight. Nope, lack of sex. She never wanted sex, probably required too much physical labor and acted like a jealous harpy all the time.
Lack of sex = relationship killer. So many women either don’t get this (too fucking stupid) or don’t care (too fucking selfish). That’s why you have to always keep options. Always.
Anyone paying attention to the Fat Acceptance movement will quickly realize that what those people want most of all is an excuse for their epic failure; not a road-map to a better place.
They seek the approval of a herd, not the Truth of how to make their existence more tolerable. And, yes, there is a difference.
The approving comments of a group of fellow fatties is quite a different thing than the sincere desire of a real-life guy to regularly bang and stay with a particular woman.
The sick, sick thing about this whole picture is that it is so effing obvious. Every commenter who says, “What if you are injected with huge amounts of lard against your will?” or such like is furthering a crime against nature.
When someone speaks a truth that can save a person, do not try to change the subject.
You’re absolutely right about people wanting an excuse for their failure. I was one of them. I always said that my metabolism was too slow to allow me to eat what I wanted and not gain weight. The problem was that I wanted to eat junk. Then, I changed my eating and lifestyle habits. After some time had passed, my metabolism sped up! I was just using an excuse for my fatness.
I believe laws cut down smoking, not shaming.
There should be a law against fatties then.
There should be a law against morons too, but I don’t see either happening in this life.
A couple of simple things that people can try to get the weight down.
1) Do the first 2 weeks of the South Beach Diet. That’s where you eat no carbs. It’s a big like quitting cigarrettes – not fun and you are grumpy beyond belief after 2 PM but it works.
2) Intermittent fasting (IF). Do this AFTER #1 and preferably after you start lifting weights based around squats, deadlifts, and the one they do in the Olympics with short rest intervals never beyond 90 seconds. When you intermittently fast, 2 or 3 times a week you eat nothing until 3:30 PM and then eat whatever you want afterwards.
What these 2 things do is change your emotional relationship to food. I gave up IF for Christmas after getting up to 4 days a week because it was making me depressed and difficult for my family and friends. I told myself that I could eat whatever I wanted. The funny thing was, I didn’t want to eat that much more.
It is so true that society women (wealthy status seekers who wear $15,000 watches with their jeans) are rarely overweight. My former gf said that at her daughter’s debutante ball (basically a $5000 per head dinner-dance party) only one of the 18 mothers was slightly overweight.
She herself (5′ 7″ and a 12x lb hardbody) and her friends were all in the 19-20 bmi range, which for me is just right. I’m a slender six-pack toting runner (and I don’t lift). Any girl I date has to weigh at least 25 lbs less than me and has to be serious about staying fit.
One positive for in shape guys with a fatty. She makes a great addition to his set of weights
test
yea should definetly use your woman as an additional piece of gym equipment
but don’t do heavy weight low reps lighter weight higher reps better he he he
sex is guarranteed to make you lose weight
my chick picked up another chick for me last night had a threesome
i asked why it was no big deal for that since that has always been a big problem in her life
she said she knows i wouldn’t get with that chick behind her back
asked me if i would i said no
but yea interesting i guess
honesty works to get what you want out of life allthough it is hard to be sometimes
As usual, very well-said, CH.
Out of all the people I talk to about it, Women, By-A-Mile, have the hardest time losing.
Three big problems they have viz. men:
*Women naturally have ~30% less muscle-mass than men.
*Before fatness, they starve themselves to stay thin, leading to a further-decreased muscle mass and metabolism, in the style of a “Yo-Yo Diet”-ed body.
*Their socially +/- “acceptable” fat-load (~22%+ for some) veers dangerously close to the tipping-point for metabolic-downregulation, regcell-overwhelm, and obesity-acceleration (yes, Fat Does Make You Fatter)
So the female fatties have EVEN LESS of an excuse.
They simply Can-F**king-NOT tolerate bad nutrition; compared to men, the difference isn’t even close.
They Must:
*Get to a gym, Lift Weights; even do GVT (very heavy weight, low reps) if they want to get really crazy
*Learn their God-Damned Calorie+Protein recs ASAP.
-Btw, it’s 10 calories/lb. of bodyweight/day and out of that, .5-1g protein/lb. of bodyweight/day;
(-for the few cool girls who read this blog. -You’re welcome.)
if she does a couple thousand reps a day riding your cock she will lose the weight when combined with a tight regimen of cleaning your house taking out the trash and shoveling snow
my chick had a belly she wasent real proud of when i met her its gone
funny part is she took some shit from her mom for being to thin oe something yet the moms boyfriend kept saying how beautiful she was and was the best she ever looked
kept telling me i need to let her do whatever she wants or some shit cause she so beautiful
I’m like it dont work like that bro
hes like what ya gonna do if she wants to go back to her husband when he gets out jail he he he
im like well she can go back to him if she wants got free will
Hes like no way you love her or some shit you wouldn’t let her go
me yea i would
same dude who shares her mom with other dudes but yea acting like i’m gonna share her or some shit fuck that
i guess desperate times when ya got to share a bitch i ain’t gonna do it on permanent basis
i guess confidense does help some
i told her before that i could replace her in minutes
she told me i’m overconfident
couldn’t replace the amount i want to spend time specifically with her but could get another piece of ass anyway.
allright she ready gonna hit the club
she read got a tear in her eye cause of the couldn’t replace the amount i want to spend time specifically with her even though i could get another piece of ass
awww
Classic song – Slick Rick/Morcheeba – Women Lose Weight