Gentlemen….Game 101:
Never EVER take a woman to dinner before you’ve fucked her. You’re begging to be resource exploited. (aka economically objectified)
If the girl wants you, dinner isn’t necessary to coax her across the consummative threshold.
If the girl doesn’t want you, dinner won’t change her mind.
Save your money, sup her honey.
Stick with bottom shelf sugary drinks for those first crucial dates. Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker. Food only gets in the way of alcohol absorption, and no girl feels sexy gnawing rack of rib in between talking about herself.
If anything, buying expensive dinners to impress a woman will turn down her thermosnatch. One, she’ll perceive (rightly more often than not) that you’re desperate and trying to pry her legs open with lavish payments up front. Two, if she thinks she can soak you before soaking your hog, she will.
Sperg Alert draws up the timeline:
What happens when you take out a #Modern #Wamen to a fancy dinner, and achieve… The #Friendzone.
…But don’t worry! She’ll suddenly have #Sex with you when she’s 35, and #PostWall after #Chad stops returning the phone calls, and you can have maybe 5-10 years of #Marriage before she #DivorceRapes you.
There is no end to the ways in which being in the bangzone is better than being in the friendzone.
PS What kind of dingbat spends $400 at an Italian restaurant? It’s fuckin pasta!
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Henry Mueller is positioning for a COTW nomination:
Seriously. In the wake of #reetoo, I can’t count the number of “bad date” articles by complaining women that have appeared: “His choice of guacamole felt really problematic to me.”
If a lsmv man dares to even approach a woman, it’s “entitlement” rape. But if a decent guy she didn’t click with disappoints her, she feels obligated to write up a novella about it.
It’s a bizarro world we live in where a man seeking sex with a woman is taboo and a woman seeking to syphon off everything she can get while giving nothing in return is celebrated.
The term of art is Gynarcho-Tyranny. And only Game can defeat it….and save the West.
I would appreciate some wisdom and advice from y’all …
I’ve been married 13 years and have three wonderful children with my wife. She is a good wife to me (other than what I am about to describe) and a good mother to our children. However, we’ve had our ups and downs and I recently had an affair with a younger woman. I didn’t exactly get caught — I ended up telling my wife about it after she got a little suspicious, mainly because the guilt was eating at me after the younger woman started talking about how she wanted my babies. Wife was hurt but said she wanted to try to get through it together. I told her that I wasn’t sure I wanted to stay together, as our relationship seemed to have lost its spark; on the other hand I didn’t want to hurt her or the kids. Told her I loved her, which is true, but needed time to think.
OK, so far I’m the jerk.
In the process of my wife and I talking things over, she confessed to me that about 10 years ago (so like, 3 years or so into our marriage, and pre-kids) she had a fling with some other guy — she claims they didn’t have full on sex, but admitted to blowing him. (it wasn’t a work thing, but sort of similar – we married young and she was still in college at the time while I had already graduated and was working). I didn’t ask for any more details as I didn’t want to hear it.
Now I’m left trying to figure out what to do. I know once a woman has cheated on you, it’s a huge deal and a relationship is almost certainly doomed from that point on. I could make excuses for why she did that 10 years ago (I am a recovered alcoholic and during that time I was at my low point and very angry about a lot of things, and she helped me through recovery to where I am today … I also had no concept of game at that time) but still, everything I’ve learned about women from here seems to scream that if she’s confessed to that, she’s probably done more, and regardless, it’s unlikely that she can be trusted again. She’s a stay-at-home mom with the kids right now, who are all under 10.
I suppose that the best possible light on the current scenario is that now, after having had 3 children with me (I have already had testing done and confirmed that they are mine) and after my having taken control of my alcoholism and stepped up my game, my wife has changed from the unfaithful girl she was 10 years ago and genuinely wants to be faithful and stay together. And I do love my kids.
However, I don’t think I’ll ever be 100% confident I know the full truth of the matter, or be able to trust her again. Also, while we genuinely have had a good family life together with the kids, and she is deferential to me in pretty much everything, I wonder whether her telling me about the cheating and my staying with her will change the dynamic so that, even if things had been generally good before, they’re likely to go downhill as she loses respect for me if I stick around.
And the younger, hotter, tighter wants to give me more children ASAP.
[CH: leave her and forge a new life with a hotter younger tighter woman. a woman cheating is a far worse infraction than a man cheating (for reasons explained at length here at this blog). there’s no going back from that. she will never stop thinking about her blowjob fling. you will always share her headspace with another man (and likely other MEN…women always undercount). the situation with the kids is tough, but you can work it out, and once the kids are finishing up high school the separation won’t hit them as hard as it would when they’re younger.]
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“And the younger, hotter, tighter wants to give me more children ASAP.”
Stick around for the sake of the kidzzzezzezes [unless you’ve got an angle which would give you 100% custody], but knock up younger hotter tighter on the side.
Of course, you’ll be supporting two households, so you may have to up your income.
PS: Can existing wifey still give you ch!ldren? Having two of your women pr3gnant at the same time == woody of titanium.
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PPS: Given where you’re at in all of this, you probably ought to get saliva swabs from the kids and send them off to the DNA lab for paternity testing [get a fake identity for this – don’t ever let the DNA labs know your real identity].
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trav777 is 1 million percent correct.
This is about those beautiful babies, not Mah Feelz.
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“PPS: Given where you’re at in all of this, you probably ought to get saliva swabs from the kids and send them off to the DNA lab for paternity testing”
According to the original comment, he already has.
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Leaving aside the hedonic value, this is a matter for the r vs K selection court. If CH is correct about feminine psychology in this situation, the threat to the kid’s viability of you sticking around may be as great as that of you leaving: She will increasingly shit-test you in front of them which will be particularly damaging to the boys. However, once a woman sees the onrushing wall splat _and_ has thrown her genetic lot in with you _and_ has boys, the risk of shit-testing goes down. Combine that with some Game and the K strategy may win out over the r strategy. The swab test is always in order. A man should never sign on the dotted line in the delivery room without it and no righteous woman of intelligence should let him. I’ve been telling woman to force their husbands to see a paternity test prior to signing since the 1970s PLATO group notes =ipr=. Some women actually took my advice and it helped their marriages. Why _force_ their husbands to do so? To overcome the “I would never doubt you, Honey.” piety — the kind of piety that destroys civilizations.
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Nah don’t stay together for the kids, you think they can’t tell tell Mommy and Daddy don’t love eatch other no more. Split up with the whore so you aren’t paying forhave a roof and food ect.
Love is just a four letter word people say. It don’t mean shit.
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My advice (and I’ve been through this): secretly start arranging your finances optimally and retain the absolute best attorney you can. Be ready to file before she does. Then, and only then, you can explore lworking it out” and decide if that is what you really want.
Don’t get blindsided.
If she suggests marriage counseling, file.
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This. He is saying “I might walk out.” He thinks he is the only one with plans here? At least she can keep her plans secret.
Hide your stuff.
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And stay off the drink. That was a good move.
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And for the guys who say “stay together”, maybe you are right, but what if she decides to go for some revenge fucking – which women have been known to do – will you continue to have that opinion?
At what point does your own life begin to count?
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This is a tough one- how old are your kids?
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“She’s a stay-at-home mom with the kids right now, who are all under 10.”
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shit I guess I should read better.
Then I cannot agree with walking out. This will destroy people.
She’s a cheater, he’s a cheater…face up and move forward. It’s not about you anymore, there are 3 fuckin kids who need a dad.
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Trav – yeah I respect what you’re saying. That “for the children” logic could be extended to any transgressions, however — is the guiding principle that a man should stay in the home with the children no matter what? And if not, where is the line to be drawn? That is what I’m struggling with . . .
For the record, I would not just disappear from my children’s lives, and would be the best I could, but yes, it would not be the same as me living with them.
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This I can agree with Trav on.
Dumping her now is just going to sluice an entire city sewage system’s worth of f***ed-up into those kids’ skulls, and they will likely end up as miserable, fouled up people for the rest of their lives.
Take one for the team and stick it out until they’re in their mid to late teens, at least. Jeez, they’re your own offspring. Don’t bring them into the world just to run them over with a garbage truck, ffs.
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Ironsides – Sincere question: when it comes to infidelity, what’s the redline for you? Or would you stay in a marriage no matter what, because of the children?
Honestly, I’m not sure if going forward my kids will have the same happy home life that they’ve had up until now, whether I stay or not. I don’t know how it’s going to be, trying to function in this marriage now that I know she’s cheated on me.
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It’s no longer just about you when there are children. I would make her work a bit to keep you interested no matter what. Women seem to think they are entitled to unearned monogamy. If you go with the younger woman, the kids will resent it, even in high school. But it will never be the same again either. This is one of those tough calls.
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At a bare minimum, he needs two or three moar ch!llunzzzezzezes out of the current w!fe.
She doesn’t get to coast through all of this – she needs to keep contributing to The Kitty.
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Stay together for the kids. I don’t want to pay additional taxes for their eventual imprisonment/welfare/dysfunction. Thanks.
You can never trust a woman, whether she’s cheated in the past or not yet. Just enjoy her for what she is and what you can get out of her.
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Agreed. The fact that “Mike” would so easily ditch his SAH wife and three young children is a good sign that he doesn’t need to burden the world with further offspring.
And CH, man, shitty response. Let’s save western civ…one broken home at a time.
[CH: unless and until women pay a price for their infidelity, they’ll never reconsider the consequences of their actions.]
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I accept your criticism for my affair with the younger woman, but it’s not “so easy” to leave my SAH w!fe and 3 young ch!ldren; it’s also not easy to stay married to a woman you know has gone down on another man after your wedding day.
[CH: if i were you, i’d be out the door one second after she revealed that leetle tidbit, kids or no kids. if she balks, tell her the kids’ suffering is on her mortal soul.]
I know I’m the pot calling the kettle black, but for reasons that have been discussed here at length, it’s just different when a woman cheats, especially a married woman. And even more so after it’s become known and she knows you know.
Anyway, I posted this knowing I would take some criticism, and I know I deserve some. Thanks for your comments.
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Dude, “Mike” is an alcoholic, with sh!t for self control.
We’ll be lucky if we can keep him in the home with the mistress on the side.
PS: Substance abuse is 110% genetic, so his kids will all be carrying at least a recessive gene for it [if not a dominant gene].
To paraphrase the immortal Donald Rumsfeld: You go to life with the family you have.
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CH- yeah use your children to prove a point to a WOMAN who won’t even vaguely grasp why you did what you did nor be able to internalize it.
may as well lecture your dog for shitting on the rug. That’ll sure show him!
You “would have” walked out?
You got any kids bro? Then shut the fuck up about what you would or wouldn’t do.
Wow this thread today has been a real eye-opener in so many ways…
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There is no possible way to impose a penalty for female infidelity. All penalties, legal or social, have been purposely removed.
Further, there is no instructing a woman. They do not accept responsibility for their actions.
They cannot fail.
Your only route is to quit out, or stay and establish internal privileges within the marriage, such as openly keeping a mistress or suchlike.
[CH: your second option is feasible for a man with solid frame who wants to be around his kids a lot. a tacit agreement to live under the same roof while pursuing separate romantic lives could work in theory if the man’s lovers are kept women who accept the limits on their expectations.]
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CH, it pains me, but you’re flat-out wrong. Destructively, hideously wrong.
I’ve actually seen people who stuck it out for the kids. The kids turned out normal.
I’ve also seen people who didn’t give a f*** about the kids and did whatever the hell they wanted. And the kids turned out distorted, f***ed up, miserable, suffering, dysfunctional wrecks.
“Responsibility” is considered a good thing for a reason.
[CH: you stay with a cheating whore and you’re rewarding her behavior, and encouraging other women who take the lesson to heart to do the same to their men. if you cared about the kids, you’d demonstrate to them that you are a man with dignity.]
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CH: “…a tacit agreement to live under the same roof while pursuing separate romantic lives could work in theory…”
I would see that the agreement require her continuing fidelity, meanwhile your fidelity is something not to be questioned- implying “You don’t rate an answer to that question, honey.” Call it dread game.
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Honestly, I have no good answer.
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It’s a really bad situation. Of course he should dump his w!fe for cheating on him. The only downside is that he’ll be committing mortal sins every time he has sex with any other woman unless the w!fe dies. Ugh.
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On the upside, it would still be licit for him to take his w!fe every so often and hate-fvck her, but just not live with her any more.
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Guide For The Married Man – deny, deny, deny
You fucked up telling her, and she fucked up famously telling you, ESPECIALLY with the detail of “no sex, but oral”… as if that attenuates the situation? Oy!
The problem now is, as much as you both may still love each other and the children, can you ever kiss her again without immediately thinking about that blow-job?
Totally serious… and it’s a damn shame.
[CH: when a girl swears “it was only oral” what she really means is “it was oral, anal, and vaginal, and i screamed with pleasure like a porn star trying to win an oscar.”]
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On a side note, if memory serves, adultery is the only Scriptural justification for divorce.
Dwight Shrute from The Office had a funny scene at his wedding, where the old farmers dug a grave and had the bride and groom take their vows while standing in it, because as per tradition, “Get in there, because it’s the only way you’re getting out of this.”
But I digress.
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“can you ever kiss her again without immediately thinking about that blow-job”
If he sticks around, she only gets doggy style from now until the end of eternity.
With hair pulling and choking and all sorts of BDSM degeneracy.
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I could live with just doggy from that point on…
… you know… for the sake of the kids.
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“[CH: when a girl swears “it was only oral” what she really means is “it was oral, anal, and vaginal, and i screamed with pleasure like a porn star trying to win an oscar.”]”
This is the only part of any this I can agree with.
They are both defective material, do the world a favor and bear the burden of your collective sin so the kids don’t end up totally fucked up too. This is why the cycle repeats itself…
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I always though that oral is much more private than penetration. because, you know, it’s a d!ck in a mouth!
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@ Greg
People who say honesty is the best policy deserve to be bitten by sleeping dogs.
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She so submitted to the other dude that she was willing to give him pleasure with no concern for her own pleasure.
Somehow not a comforting thought.
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“It was only a nigger!”
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Ben wins the thread.
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You gotta stay for the kids
Sounds like you’re more together (ie: less pathetic beta) and she won’t want to stray anyway. Good on you
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Many couples make an arrangement for the kids’ sake and that would probably be best in this situation.
I wouldn’t wanna stay with a cheating ho either nor forego any real future for myself. But I stayed through worse shit than this and I had to fight against the entire system to stay in my kids’ lives and everyone I’ve ever spoken to said they would have expected anyone to have walked.
So I’m not sympathetic to this me-first shit. You have to sacrifice for the greater good especially of the innocent.
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I would stay together not for her sake but for the children’s sake. My own personal experience, being in the generation that has seen the most divorce from parents, is that divorces cause young girls to turn into whores and young boys to turn inward and dislike themselves which makes them either weak or sends them down a dark path. I don’t think that means you have to pretend you don’t care what your wife did. Sometimes and maybe the majority of the time, the children turn out normal after their parents’ divorce but imo, often, they do not.
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This is very accurate. Women make terrible mothers at the best of times, but especially when they have to do it alone.
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Your three children are first priority. Shield them from all harm even if that means your death. That said, if they grow up watching her disrespect you, that harms them — so never let her do that. But there is no indication in the comment that she is is disrespectful.
The blowjob confession killed your love, nothing can be done about it any more. If she is bearable to be around, then stay with her and treat her coldly from now until death does you part. And keep your girlfriend.
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Kids pick up on that cold treatment too, though… I’m not sure it’s better on them to stick around if that’s all he can muster for her.
I like the Cap’n’s idea… from now on, only doggy. 😉
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I’ve got 3 kids with a sahm. They are young. I would bail. It isn’t forgivable. I would never be able to kiss her again without thinking of another man’s dick in her mouth. No amount of make up sex or cooking or cleaning can repair that. You gotta bail. The kids will be ok. Parenting, as fulfilling as it is and enjoyable as it is to both parents and children, doesn’t matter very much to how your kids turn out. They’ll be fine. At least about as fine as they would be if you stuck around.
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“Parenting, as fulfilling as it is and enjoyable as it is to both parents and children, doesn’t matter very much to how your kids turn out.”
Fuck you, you stooge.
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It really doesn’t matter very much unless you really fuck it up, like child abuse, neglect, shit like that. You can invest all kinds of time and energy trying to make kids into something they’re not but they’ll turn out pretty much the same as if you just did the bare minimum. Nature wins. Nurture effects fade out.
And fuck you too Dread.
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You guys with this bs I swear. Unless your current girl is a virgin then chances are great she’s had it in all orifices before you..there’s such a thing as a shower and brushing your teeth. The real transgression is the infidelity not what she actually did.
Pretty much, you’ve missed her after shes had a dick in her mouth before , before the infidelity.
Just like the fucking weirdos who manage to bang a guys girl and says how’s my dick taste? Yeah ok hows every other dudes dick taste that has gotten a bj from EVERY girl you been with? Ridiculous.
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You’re not wrong anon. I would much rather every girl I had ever been with been a virgin. I try to put it out of my mind and rationalize being content with second hand goods with the understanding that my woman is not and has not been concurrently fucking other guys while she was with.
This is the ONLY rationalization (to me) which makes a less-than-ideal situation tolerable. If I ever discovered that tenuous justification was violated it’s over. Done. Zero tolerance.
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If any ex taunts you about “How’s that used pussy?”, just tell him “It’s pretty good, once you get past the used part.”
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like you’ve only ever kissed a virgin
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Oh man. I don’t envy you at all. Like between a rock and a hard place.
I have 3 small children too. My parents were divorced when I was 15, and it sucked ass. Now I have to drag my family to opposite coasts to see each of them.
Leaving the mother definitely messes with your kids. On the other hand, dollars to donuts your wife did a whole lot more than a bj. That’s just the tip of the iceberg.
For me, I guess it would depend on how hot and devoted the younger, hotter and tighter one is. And finances.
Whatever your thoughts, get the best lawyer you can pronto. If you file you’ll need him. And if you don’t file you may need him anyway, because she might. Best to be prepared.
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“Mike” has already punched out of the relationship, he’s here for validation.
So fuck him.
It’s interesting to see the opinions you guys have on this. Some surprises, tbh.
I have no answer. The correct answer is for this shit not to happen in the first place, but once it’s a done deal….
It’s ridiculous to speculate on another’s exact situation, we’ll never have enough relevant details, only those involved would.
It’s clear that the kids are THE top priority. Whatever will work out best for them is the least worst path to take.
YOU brought them into this world, they’re YOUR responsibility, don’t be a fucking nigger and white man up. Once they’re taken care of you can then give yourself some consideration.
Your men, your jet, THEN yourself.
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Not trying to be overly defensive, because yeah I have made mistakes.
But reflecting on this situation and everyone’s comments, maybe part of the reason I ended up with the younger, hotter, tighter girl on the side I saw because there was something lacking in my relationship with my wife —something that now in hindsight is revealed by her infidelity. Maybe I sensed it, her betrayal, even though she was outwardly submissive and a good mother and wife (in other respects) …
And yeah, I fucked up by telling her — guess I’m not enough of a cad to overcome my guilty conscience. But at least my fuck up resulting in me finding out something I probably never would have otherwise, about her cheating.
What she’s told me is bad enough, but one thing y’all seem to agree on is that she’s not told me everything. And that is a sad thing for me to contemplate.
Thanks for the comments, everyone — even those of you who think I’m trash. They’ve all been helpful in some way.
[CH: you’re not trash. you are a man stuck in an unenviable position, dealing with the vagaries of the female heart. that’s why you come here.]
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Hello Mike,
For what it’s worth, I fully agree with CH on this one.
I don’t think I ever shared my story here but to make it short : my ex-wife cheated, I kicked her out and never looked back. Both the divorce proceedings and the lawyer were expensive but I now have full custody of my two kids and she’s allowed to see them once a month. The children are doing great and I have a somewhat permanent gf who is a great female role-model for them. I also have some fooling on the side.
The “downside” is that the divorce destroyed my nice carrer path in the military (denied promotion due to taking too many leaves to care for the children when their mother was too busy fucking around), so I had to find a new job, became a top exec in a SME, created a small business online, started travelling on holidays and teaching watersports to finance it. All in all, the kids and myself are much better than if I had stayed with the whore.
She, on the other side, is alone, broke, lives in a dump, became incredibly fat and generally miserable.
Once a woman cheats on you, she has zero respect left for you, when she tells you, she explicitly despises you and it’s your choice to either be a doormat or to kick the whore back on the street.
Either way, good luck, bro, I know how much it sucks (no pun intended).
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“Once a woman cheats on you, she has zero respect left for you, when she tells you, she explicitly despises you and it’s your choice to either be a doormat or to kick the whore back on the street.”
That’s the truth.
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Whether you leave or not: 3 things:
1. the “it was only oral” is TOTAL BS. Classic minimization. Do NOT believe that for even a moment.
2. Protect yourself: do not raise her standard of living, unless it’s clearly on her income. Do not acquire any more real estate. If you already have, find an excuse to dispose of it. Start stashing wealth with no paper trail, that mean you SECRETLY accumulate cash or gold.
3. NEVER forget that the social, cultural, and most importantly, LEGAL apparatus is lined up to protect HER, and to confiscate from you, regardless of circumstances. Verily I say unto you, the judges do not care about you nor about moral justice.
Been there, done that.
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Oh…. and:
4. STAY off the hooch. It makes you more vulnerable in every way.
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Divorce lawyers love, love, love guys like this.
DC …natch … never find a keeper in that hive of scum and villainy.
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@Scanman DC, the real world Mos Eisley, good catch.
Here’s the overpriced cantina;
https://www.fiolamaredc.com
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You are utterly clueless.
You ever been there? I have. It’s nothing like you believe and clearly can afford.
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Trav,
its grossly overpriced. I could have that same meal in Europe at a restaurant with a star for about $250. Tagliatela for $80? That’s absurd and they can’t get the real ingredients for the sauces. DC is a food town for people who come from backwoods PA and Ohio and don’t know any better.
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CD, a real man cooks the meal for his date.
At his pad, or at hers.
Or he takes her out for a picnic dinner on a blanket in the park.
Never give these leftist thieves your hard-earned dollars for a meal you could cook better yourself.
PS: If she’s a keeper, then she’ll cook the meal for you [but I’m cynical enough now to realize that Millenial-ish chicks who know how to cook are rarer than hens’ teeth].
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CD- probably 250 Euros.
Europe has significantly more 1-star establishments.
Mare needn’t cost as much as this guy dropped…I think my total there was less than 400, right around that on the mark, maybe in the low 300s. Trabocchi’s places have the best cocktails in town however. Casa Luca is a great place for those for less money.
Fiola is superior (obv) and Pineapple n Pearl is $280 pp including pairing, tip, tax, 11-courses…a significantly better bargain at 2-stars than I’ve seen anywhere.
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For 250 Euros, I would be getting a seven or nine course meal and very little pasta. Once you get used to that, paying too much for lower quality is galling. I grew up in DC. I would pay Putin to nuke it, NYC and Los Angeles.
Another reason is that I am a pretty good cook myself and can often duplicate a 300 dollar meal. My brother can take one bite of a dish and tell you everything in it, how it was cooked and what shortcuts were taken with it.
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Maybe it’s because I’m from the South, but when I saw the price of that dinner I almost dropped my computer and shit myself. $400 fucking dollars? I better get a happy ending from the waiter AND the cook. Holy shit.
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fucking mod… http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/164941678 have some pics of her..
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Sometimes I feel like all roads lead to 4chan.
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I push dinner to the 3rd or 4th date or later if possible and only then it is BBQ at my place on the rooftop.
Of coursh, there have been times when dinner was the second date, but again, at my place (or better, hers, as she’s doing the cooking, and it’s a prelude to bottles of wine and smashing).
I once had a Swiss girl invite me over for dinner on the 3rd date and (we banged after the 2nd), she cooked wearing just an apron.
Finally, a girl once contacted me online at 5.00pm on an October Saturday afternoon; at 7:30 we were eating dinner in my apartment, at 8:30 we were on the sofa in my living room overlooking a dark and stormy autumn night with my hands squeezing her tits. By 9.00, she was eating out my asshole.
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That’s disguising DON’T DO THAT
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God dammit, Les.
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“I once had a Swiss girl invite me over for dinner on the 3rd date and (we banged after the 2nd), she cooked wearing just an apron.”
BUNZ -> OVEN!!!!!
You phucking moron.
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“she cooked wearing just an apron.”
I have an exquisite vision of some slender 70s era Swiss Miss looking maiden with a full blond bush and pert pink nippled tits when I picture this. Gotta go with CO on this one, I’d have likely impregnated her on the spot at least the version of her in my mind’s eye. ;-D
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Cap’m,
When weighing in one hand, Swiss Miss humming The Sound of Music while baking cookies barefoot in the kitchen, and some skank eating out your asshole in the other hand, you list mightily toward Swiss Miss. If we’ve learned one thing from this thread, it’s that not all men share your taste in such matters.
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Les,tell me that broad was not a nigger!!!😱
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The Swiss girl was, by day, a tall, slim, very well proportioned, demure, who wore flowery summer dresses and big hats (slut tell) who was from the French-speaking area of Switzerlamd and would not have looked out of place in a billowy heavy cotton dress in the kitchen of a stone farm house in some canton on the Swiss / French border. By night, the most depraved girl I’ve encountered, a drawer full of sexual paraphernalia, dabbling in lesbianism, and an enthusiast of slapping, choking, râpe fantasies, and the like. She drifted away, probably in need of even more degrading sexual exploits.
The other episode involved an Italian girl, and, well, some things just happen.
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Major 7, $400 will get you a lot of oysters in Enterprise. Free hot sauce too.
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Best Italian meal I had was in BOLOGNA freakin ITALY not NYC (spare me!) or some other kooky place.
Or was it in Lucca? Siena? Firenze?? Positano? So much heaven in real Italian cuisine.
And yeah $80 for tagliatelle? I can make better tagliatelle with my hand pasta machine and 80 CENTS of semolina flour.
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“DC is a food town for people who come from backwoods PA and Ohio and don’t know any better.”
100%. One of the things that annoys me the most about this town. They remind me of the noveau rich. No fucking class or taste, just lots of gub’mint money, hob-knobbing, dick-sucking, and sycophantry. None of which gives you taste, class, or distinction.
Why you look down your nose at others realizing that as Hannibal Lecter once put it:
“You know what you look like to me, with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You look like a rube. A well scrubbed, hustling rube with a little taste. Good nutrition’s given you some length of bone, but you’re not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you, Agent Starling?”
I also will say again I don’t think it’s a coincidence how many in this community and the “alt-right” and dark enlightenment websites are in/around DC I don’t think that is a coincidence. Especially some of the earliest founders / members of this movement.
Why? “The fish rots from the head first” Innit?
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I’ve never been to DC, but it sounds like a totally detestable, reprehensible, vile swampland full of NGO/government bitches with attitudes and rapidly depreciating sexual market values, bugmen, corrupt politicians (redundant), smarmy millennial fagets from Ohio, and a seedy black underclass, just so you don’t get too comfortable when you leave the house at night.
A wicked place. Worse than New York?
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“PS What kind of dingbat spends $400 at an Italian restaurant? It’s fuckin pasta!”
But it’s pasta on K Street. Lolz
Shite hole swamp…
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3050 K Street NW, Suite 101 https://www.fiolamaredc.com/
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I mean, I blow all my money on strippers and poker so I only eat buffet buffalo wings but still…this thread is funny. It’s basically American Psycho level stuff.
Anyway, regardless of how good this din din was, I note the guy wasted nearly a $100 on 4 glasses of wine. Get the bottle, live a little.
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I mean, I blow all my money on strippers and poker…
I only spend half my dough on broads and bourbon…
… the other half I waste.
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Uh…wtf are you idiots talking about?
Fiola Mare will be 1-star Michelin. Fiola is already.
Yeah I have been to both of them and they are ridiculously good. This is haute cuisine, not the small town bumfuck egypt shit you eat.
However CH is right, never take a bitch to dinner before…dinner is for GIRLFRIENDS, not dates. Never ever. Take them to some cheap drinks.
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Quit lyin, you couldn’t tell the difference between Bucca di beppo and whatever you call this Wop Shop.
[CH: best italian i’ve had was in a nondescript surburban restaurant owned and operated by generational italians. for two, plus wine, total was $180. in the coastal megashitlibopolises, you’re paying a 50-100% premium for the name drop bragging rights. i know how this game works.]
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CH- you are utterly full of shit on this one.
This level of sheer ignorance is mindblowing…utterly so.
[CH: what am i full of shit on? that i had the best italian of my life at a family-owned suburban restaurant, or that smug status striver faggot urban shitlibs wait months for the honor of dropping big bucks on a restaurant that gets written up in the post and on tyler cowen’s blog?]
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Why the fuck are you insulting me? Hahaha
I’m talking about DC. The place sucks. If that’s what you’re all pissy about, GFY.
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I’ve eaten in plenty of highly rated restaurants in many nice cities but I’ve honestly never heard a straight man sincerely use the term “haute cuisine.”
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Yeah I have been to both of them and they are ridiculously good. This is haute cuisine, not the small town bumfuck egypt shit you eat.
Well, the gal better be ridiculously haute as well before I fork over $10 for a side o’ spinach.
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What’s a fist-fightin’ palooka doing eatin’ haute cuisine?;-)
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“highly rated.” lol.
You just simply…have…no…clue. You’ve never eaten anywhere like this, trust me.
Again, whatever…got no patience for unsophisticated people. Have fun at Olive Garden with your fat bitch
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Trav,
my brother is the chef who cooks most of the state dinners we throw. He works at the Ronald Reagan building on PA avenue. He was on Iron Chef and is friends with most of these owners. I will get his opinion. I have eaten haute cuisine many times in Italy, France, and Germany and America is generally second rate and way overpriced. The menu is flashy but I see nothing on it that is worthy of the price. I bet their shrimp and lobster sauce is not as good as mine. We have a row of places of this caliber where I live and they charge far less.
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CD- your friend will know Fabio Trabocchi, then.
America is absolutely somewhat 2nd-tier in the food department even on a star-by-star basis. However, having eaten at this establishment as well as others here, in NYC, and Chicago, and actually taking a FRENCH GIRL who GREW UP IN PARIS and has eaten Guide restaurants there, along with having been there myself, I would not at all agree that there is a significant difference in either quality or price.
For shits I looked up Alain Ducasse’s Louis XIV in monte carlo, a place I tried to go, and it’s 360 euros. This is actually quite a bit more than even 11 Madison which is rated #1 IN THE WORLD right now and for which I sadly was unable to get a reservation and had to go back to Per Se.
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Right …. they don’t have any Michelin rated spots in NYC. You’re the only guy here who has ever eaten in one. Color me awestruck.
You dumb fuck.
…and again… I was talking about DC and the culture of second rate conspicuous consumer cunts like you not the restaurant. So again… GFY.
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CH- you’re full of shit that you “know” how this game works or that Mare is even remotely an “italian” restaurant like you think it is.
[CH: they ordered italian. i’m telling you there are cheaper better options if that’s what they wanted.]
You ever been there?
[wouldn’t you like to know]
Nope, so then wtf are you talkin about putting a place down you’ve never even eaten at? Stick to commentary about how the dude got worked over by a bitch he never should have taken to a place like that.
Come back and talk to me when you get your first Michelin meal.
[ive had michelin meals. they were good. the best i’ve had? nope. but it sure was priced like the best i would ever had.]
The Michelin strata has nothing to do with fucking name bragging.
[come on DUDE. every fucking autistaurant dweeb knows which place is starred. i’m talking about why rootless cosmopolitan status whores flock to these places, and a big part of it is the name droppage.]
I didn’t get it either until I did a bday for a gf at Le Berarndin years ago. A friend who’d been there told me always get the tasting menu and I did. It was an eye opener. Prior to that I talked the same shit you do about the “best italian” or “best seafood” or best wtfever I thought because the truth is, I had no clue about this world.
I, and my last gf, agreed, we would rather eat at home all month and go ONE TIME to a place like this than all the fucking Chillis and Olive Gardens and whatever the hell shithole italian place you thought was great.
[i’ve never eaten at a chilis or olive garden]
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Michelin stars involve a long list of requirements most of which are service related. Its like ISO 9000 for restaurants to an extent.
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Zounds, trav777’s inner bugman just got triggered into flinging off its shitlord shell and revealing the status-climbing swamp critter beneath.
Glad I came here for my lunchtime entertainment. Wouldn’t want to miss this. 😉
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Ironsides- i gaf about status whoring.
At what point did you take the perception that I went ANY of these places because anyone other than *I* wanted to?
I went to Le Bernardin because it was among the best in NYC…a friend told me always get the tasting menu. Fuck the prix fixe and the ala carte bs. Tasting menu or no.
It opened my eyes the way good art does. If you don’t get it, whatever…I go to museums too and I travel all over the world to places I feel like going and do shit I feel like doing. If you don’t, hey man, it’s your life
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If it floats your boat, go right ahead. Hell, I’ve done some traveling in my time, too, though you’d probably consider it low-budget peon work since I went to places like Prague and Kiev rather than Monaco and the Riviera.
I just don’t get the appeal of $400 pasta, though. It all comes from wheat, which all grows on the plain dirt of Earth. The $2 box of pasta at the store comes from the same species of plant as the $400 dinner; it isn’t brought in interdimensionally from Elysium.
Wheat is wheat, meat is meat, tomatoes are tomatoes. Unless it’s being done for the status, I honestly can’t see the point.
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Trav, you should have taken a nap after your first argument (good points, btw), but now you’re getting pissy over food. You have an exquisite pallet? Good for you, who gives a shit. Stop squabbling over flavor profiles and who really knows what good food tastes like.
Also, I’m fine with Chile’s and all the other shithole restaurants you can mention, because I’m not a pissed off snob who judges people for their lack of culinary sensibilities.
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SSKKKKIIIIIIIIITTLEEEEEESSSS!
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You’re a right poncy cunt
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you know pasta is boiled wheat-paste eh? It’s fucking peasant food, historically for broke people lol. Reastaranteurs make a pretty buck off status strivers like you, probably cost like $5 bucks in raw ingredients to make.
For 4 bills you better give me a steak made of some endgandered-ass animal.
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Both images stand out:
Trav and his haute cuisine
Les’ girl eating ass
In the same thread …only at CH
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Ironsides, you mention Prague, I went there a couple years ago and it was awesome. You could get a good hot meal and 3-4 beers for 2 people with an appetizer and dessert for like $10 US. The people were really nice too.
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Bigjohn, that sounds like Prague, all right. I was there about 10 years ago, but it sounds like it hasn’t changed at all. Very pleasant spot to visit.
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Prague is great, but its at a precarious tipping point because the same cunts we are abusing on this thread have “Discovered” this ‘little gem’ of eastern europe. Which means they are starting to eat, pray, and love there like Tuscany, Bali, et. al. which means the place will be an overpriced dump soon.
This was already “in process” last time I was there a few years ago. Everyplace shitlibs go, this happens. Sort of like how nogs destroy every city they touch. Shitlibs turn them into overpriced douchey fagfests basically.
Go deeper into EE if you want to keep a little closer to the ground Budapest, Warsaw if you want to keep it mainstream or the in between places if you want authentic.
I toured that entire part of the world for 2 months and never wanted to come back for obvious reasons. Saw less than a dozen darkies in 2 months and also saw a guy OPENLY in the street yelling at some loudmouth jew about how his people ruined the country. Wrap your mind around that last statement. That was in Budapest.
Go to Western Europe and yell about jews, your ass will be in shackles in minutes.
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those michelin stars in america are very, very inflated compared to continental europe.
even so, it’s fine eating in michelin stars if you want to. but dont bring girls you’ve never f-cked before. even if you have money to waste, society is grateful
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Are the men on the blog really trying to get status points by saying they have eaten at this expensive place or that expensive place?
And if one has or hasn’t, why is that important?
Why would anyone care where someone else ate?
Oh, I see, it is about how much money you can spend to buy a plate of carbs.
When did you all become Jews?
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@Trav says:
Ironsides- i gaf about status whoring.
Uh huh.
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I couldn’t help noticing that the restaurant is in Washington, DC. They haven’t gone out of business with those prices? I guess a lot of Congressmen and Deputy Undersecretaries of State take their female “pages” (i.e., hoes) there. The National Debt is 21 Trillion (that’s 21,000 Billion) dollars. Drain the Swamp.
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do you even vaguely realize what it takes to get a michelin rating? The 3-star establishments in NYC are even more- I spent $1000 for me and my gf at Per Se just this December. I spent $700 at Jean Georges, and Per Se on a previous trip with another gf. Fiola was $500, Mare was like…400ish.
This is simply the price of admission to what is gastronomical art. Stick to Olive Garden
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“gastronomical art”
Okay t777, you’re moving towards cuck territory here.
Might wanna get yourself an account at the Huffington Poast.
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You sound like Mnuchin’s wife with ur name dropping, stop it.
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Look if you proles do not know what the Michelin Guide is and what it MEANS….I can’t help you. I simply cannot.
We’re just not in the same social strata. You wanna eat Chili’s go the fuck ahead and do it.
[CH: strawman. no one said chilis was the only alternative to overpriced waterfront kitchens.]
Idgaf. Go to your all-inclusive resort s or on your Carnival Cruises and be proles…just stay the fuck away from where I am.
I won’t pretend to respect clowns that don’t appreciate haute cuisine…you’re unsophisticated. After watching Emmanuel Ax at the NY Phil, I wandered across the street with the same gf to grab a wagyu beef burger at PJ O’Rourke’s. We went to Per Se the next night.
Not the place for you, I get it…fkin buncha rednecks
[i’ve been to places you can only dream of. and trust me when i tell you this: most of these “haute couture” venues price in the bragging rights premium. hey no problem if you wanna splurge, just know you can do as well with a little adventurousness and a willingness to avoid the latest “it” place and the ego stroking that comes with it.]
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Well, Granny makes a mean squirrel stew… especially if ah gits ’em before they been layin’ out in the sun on the road fer too long.
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You are simply a cultural helot shooting off his mouth and conflating price with quality. For the prices you just mentioned, you could fly to Paris and get the real thing in a restaurant with a proper star and still save money. This is why I laugh at New York. Restaurants usually go downhill after they get the star too. Morris House in Alexandria ring a bell?
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t777, my knowledge of fine dining & the michelin guide dwarfs yours, and I’m telling you that you care way too much about all of this name-dropping.
You are not pwning your Inner Frame.
Mammon is pwning your Inner Frame.
Walk away from this sh!znat, Mr Swamp Creature.
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Getting tired of all this Michelin talk . . .
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At this point I have to LOL.
Suddenly the people who never eat at any of these places know more about them than I do. I’ve eaten at a few 3-star places in NYC, and most of the michelin restaurants here. Feel free to ask me what I recommend.
CH- at what point did you assume I went to ANY of these fucking places because I thought that they were “it”
I give not one shit what you or anybody else thinks about me; this should have been immediately obvious merely by my goddamned avatar.
Stop talking shit…the difference is my opinion is based on a restaurant I’ve actually eaten at, whereas yours is…let’s see here…you’re talking out of your ass.
You wanna compare places we’ve severally eaten, rock tha fuck out. You should know that I already know you’re full of shit by what you’ve already said on this topic.
Have fun at Pizza Hut
[CH: food always tastes better when it’s priced high enough to convince you.]
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“Idgaf”
Then why are you still arguing your superiority?
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Last 2 times I went to Morrisson House in Alex. it seemed to have gone down hill. It wasn’t a date place, a place to go with long term friends or long term business colleagues.
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t777, now you’re getting all pissy like the Little B!tch which is your Inner Frame.
You obviously haven’t been to That Dark Place.
You don’t pwn Inner Frame.
Your inner b!tch
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“ZFG” means you DO NOT GIVE A PHUCK whether its Alain Ducasse or Kentucky Fried Chicken.
You take the situation as presented and you deal with it.
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but is the gobbagool any good at any of these places??
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Look if you proles do not know what the Michelin Guide is and what it MEANS….I can’t help you. I simply cannot.
Watch that “proles” stuff…
Us yeggs are philistines!
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I came back after lunch and you’re still here endlessly name dropping you foodie faggot. Stop, no one cares. It’s only giving us a reason to make fun of you. You’ve exposed yourself as a soyboi, no question about it. I hope the next time you’re at one of your haute cuisine restaurants that Bobby Flay, Guy Fietti, and the Michelin man are taking turns banging your GF in the back as you delight in eating some over-priced crap. And that ain’t aioli on her dress when she comes back to your table.
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Trav, I make 75 lbs sausage from a feral hog, season it with non GMO no nitrate free range grass fed garlic and pepper with salt harvested from the deepest ocean of Enceladus and stuff it into fresh casings made of unicorn intestines for about 40 bucks and have roughly 3 times better experience than you’ve ever had with your clothes on
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You overpaid dude. But this topic reminds me of a “taste of Italy” promo my local grocery was running awhile back. The pasta was good, different than the American products. It was very pale, and had a definite taste and texture to it. I am surrounded by beaners so this stuff just sat on the shelves and week later it was going for 50 cents a lb. I snatched up about $10 worth. I’m also working on my pizza dough skills. I found that letting it slow rise in the fridge for at least 24 hrs makes a huge difference. I make my own sauce as well. I’d much rather cook for a gal, than blow a G on something that Pedro spit in before it was delivered to my table. Hell, you can find epic tacos in Tj for less than a $1 and watch the guy grill em up right in front of you. Tacos el Gordo just down the street from Hotel Ticuan if you’re ever in the area.
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@ Trav “I spent $1000 for me and my gf at Per Se just this December. I spent $700 at Jean Georges, and Per Se on a previous trip with another gf. Fiola was $500, Mare was like…400ish.”
So you saying that when a man has your kind of personality, this how much he has to pay for company?
At least that is on topic for the blog.
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@ CO: t777, now you’re getting all pissy like the Little B!tch which is your Inner Frame.You obviously haven’t been to That Dark Place. You don’t pwn Inner Frame. Your inner b!tch pwns is your Inner Frame.
He seethes that you don’t realize how great he must be because his socks cost $200. Don’t you realize that these should be in the Smithsonian! And his bitchin’ car is cheery red. No not loser cherry-red. Oxbl00d-tinted cherry red. What a six-toed unsophisticate you are!,
In his mind, we all wish to be him, or we should. We should admire him and want his lifestyle. We should accept all of his opinions and do everything just the way he does it.
And if we differ in our preferences, it is a mortal slight to his self-esteem.
He never need show any grace, diplomacy, politesse, or consideration.
He is never funny, interesting, supportive or informative
I find it hard to believe that he spends any time in human company at all, Who would tolerate him, except a women looking for a $500 meal? And she would be the type of women who would steal the tip as she left the table.
In a small tribal setting, that is, where the Dunbar number applied, he would be like the male version of the scold, and in the end, with some regret, but more relief, the men would have to all take him out hunting one day. And there would be an unfortunate accident.
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I usually enjoy your comments, but the bugman-esque status signalling isn’t interesting, and since none of us want to date you, it’s not adding perceptibly to your value in this forum.
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“They haven’t gone out of business with those prices?”
Those are actually very low prices for DC.
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And note too that the $400 bill comes to more like $500 with the tip.
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Sigh. NO they aren’t.
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The restaurant is on the Georgetown waterfront. I haven’t eaten there but have walked past it a number of times either hanging out in that area or showing out of town visitors around. The $400 bill is not surprising, given the location but it’s way higher than what you’d expect in similar venues say, on 7th st NW.
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there are no similar venues on 7th St, unless you mean down in SE where Pineapple and Pearl (2-star) and Rose’s Luxury (1-star) are located.
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$400 is still on the high side in DC. Most people in DC make a lot of money on paper but are cubicle rats barely making the mortgage payment and spending four hours a day in traffic.
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All those dinners will be lost in time….like reviews in Zagat…..Time to dine
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I’ve eaten ribs in corsair ships burning off the shoulder of Orion.
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“$400 is still on the high side in DC.”
FOR NORMIES!!!!!
$400 won’t even buy you a decent bottle of wine if you’re a lobbyist.
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Meta-message:
Everyone on Chateau Heartiste lives in suburban D.C.
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wow, this thread is still going on???
I think we need G-Manifesto to come in and explain what a true rich person does. I think there’s this one 3 star restaurant I was in that made $100 bill sashimi. Only you had to use your own artisinal benjamins.
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This is probably the worst comment thread ever. Can we please all shut the fuck up about food? There are food blogs for that, Trav, they’d love to read your insightful commentary on Michelin stars and how declasse Pizza Hut is (filthy ANIMALS).
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“$400 won’t even buy you a decent bottle of wine if you’re a lobbyist.”
Truth
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Trav, I feel quite confident at this point that I could beat you up.
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What the actual fuck? Did I not see the wormhole that sucked me into some alternate dimension where grown men are arguing about overpriced rations?
It’s food FFS, important as sustenance, past that……..
Some mayonez and kielbasa, nice piwo to wash it down, and I’m set.
Now you want to talk about dropping stupid amounts of money, we can start with what I spent on my MR556A1, with no actual legit reasons other than I wanted one.
Maybe that’s why merchant bankers drop $1K on food (like it comes out the other end any differently), just because they can.
Every, er, man, needs a hobby.
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To the guy making his own pizza. Recently just started myself, I’ve been having issues hand tossing my dough and was thinking it may be due to how long I chill the dough…been doing just an hour. Sometimes I get an oval shaped pizza or sometimes I just break down and use the rolling pin which I’ve gotten really good with. Tossing it is something I want to master though.
Do you put toppings on first or last? What do you recommend for making your own sauce? I want to taste some kind of spice in the sauce.
I will try chilling the dough for 24 hours next time.
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Given how this thread has played out, anon should get COTW for that one.
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Nobody gets COTW until they can twirl a pizza… the chateau has its standards, such as they are, and we only take yeggs what’s been to college.
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wtf
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Are you as weirded out as I am?
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Envy and status seeking is just about the lowest possible feature of the human personality. They totally exclude any possibility of happiness. Any person who displays it is entirely untrustworthy and, especially, endlessly boring.
If they detect that you are trying to avoid them, they loudly conclude that you must be jealous.
Yes, you’re right, that’s it! I am eaten up with envy. Can I go now?
So yeh gregi, wtf.
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[…] Your Daily Game: The Dead End Dinner Date […]
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She dinner rapes a guy and then proudly posts the receipt to gloat in her deceit? I know I should be used to this by now, but this pervasive lack of respect still shocks me.
I wonder if I could get away with my own version: “Hey, check out these desperate, crying voicemails this chick left me. Isn’t it pathetic? Aww. Love is wonderful.”
Something tells me the reception would not be as good. SMH.
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Well, it makes sense. Women believe they demonstrate Value, and Superiority, to true men they want by showing they’re willing to kick losers to the curb. In a way, it’s a potential demonstration of submission to superior men — the implication being, yeah, she’ll mug a chump, but she’s exposing herself with honesty to someone who she may respond and surrender to, IF she thinks he merits it.
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Honestly realizing this point that women flaunt rejections to signal their availability as well as to bask in the warm ego-glow was a turning point for me. The more I come to understand these things, the less personally resentful I feel. It’s just their evolutionary imperative run amok in an unnatural social environment.
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“The more I come to understand these things, the less personally resentful I feel.”
^^^This.
ZFG. Pwn your Inner Frame.
Understand them for who & what they are, and, armed with that knowledge, head off to find & seize the best of them for yourself.
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I think the equivalent would be for a guy to post a picture banging her from behind saying “This thot thinks I’m going to call her again… lol”
And yeah, there would be outrage.
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The outrage would just further your goal of slaying even MORE ass.
(1) Preselected by other women. Diamond-in-the-rough theory.
(2) Guaranteed jerk (today, I walked right past some token construction female on the street who tried to stop me, she huffed “what a jerk!” but I swear there was a bit of huskiness in her voice)
(3) Guaranteed interesting story. You can segue from this to all your other I’m-the-best stories, and unlike the internet, your photo-proof will provide veracity
and
(4) It’s just damn FUNNY!
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There Is No Such Thing As Bad Publicity.
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“There Is No Such Thing As Bad Publicity.” – H. Weinstein
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I’d argue that the reverse would be uploading a FB or Instagram post about how you got a girl to sleep with you by telling her you love her when you really were lying. See how well that one would go over.
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In some jurisdictions that may be interpretable as some kind of rape by misrepresentation.
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had a 300 dollar dinner in dc but at least I got an over 5 pound lobster
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I had an $11 beer at Yankee Stadium once.
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Now THAT is a ripoff…theater food is even worse. Or maybe airplane food that you have to pay for. It’s almost better to starve.
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Alas, yet another jest fallen flat! 😦
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Alas, yet another jest fallen flat! 😦
Not true. I laughed
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I relish the save, brother-man!
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EHS, welcome back!!!
Haven’t seen you in weeks.
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I saw a werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hands, walking through the streets of SoHo in the rain.. Looking for a place call Lee Ho Fooks
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Funny. A nicely wry comment on what is in fact a pretty sad thread.
To think that it requires someone to take only one shit in the living room and pretty soon you can smell it through the entire place.
I can’t imagine how foul it must be to live among rich Jews and people who are obsessed with money. The shallowness.
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I had an $11 hooker at Yankee Stadium.
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Yeah, we saw you on the Kiss Cam right before Cotton-Eye Joe.
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the best cream of sum yun gai i’ve ever had was from a hole in the wall place under the manhattan bridge
it only cost me $20
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Wun Hung Lo sends his regards.
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I’ll bet you were hungry for another one a half hour later.
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As I learned game, I learned very quickly never ever to bring a woman to a restaurant for first dates (I did that for the first month of my game path). Besides the obvious game stuff, it makes for an awkward date with the artificial distance and the food etc. (For example, kinda difficult to kino-escalate.)
Definitely never to a $400 dinner date. WTF.
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Nah, it’s easy to escalate: get a booth, invite her to sit next to you, bust move. If she balks, next her.
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— Definitely never to a $400 dinner date. WTF.
Makes you wonder of the date was an Indian or Arab with money.
[CH: my thoughts too. the nouveau rich swarths know no other game but wallet game. it’s all they have. and it is why they fail.]
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Dollars to donuts it wasn’t a jew, amirite? 😉
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lolz GE, I hate that I didn’t think of that
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PS Fiola Mare is really good. One of my fav spots.
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wow someone else who has actually been there…as opposed to a bunch of people who comment without ANY knowledge whatsoever of the subject of their comments. Amazing concept.
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I’m sure it is great food, but I simply can’t rationalize paying as much for a single meal as I did my crossbow (which, in contrast, has the potential to bring me many meals).
Also, there are many reasonably priced places to eat in DC, I’m not sure why we’re all pretending their isn’t… I used to live up there (and in fact shall be visiting again in May) so I won’t be told any different lol.
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I think Trav777’s argument is fair.
Many people in this society, ordinary consumer drones-cogs, somehow believe you shouldn’t “get what you pay for.” But food is like anything else up for offer: you can go to Taco Bell for $5, then you can go up to Chipotle for $15, and the gradations increase and increase, and the general rule of thumb is that, yes, you’re paying for cachet . . . but is that so stupid? Say you wanted to impress a bimbo and you had money to blow. You pull up in your supercar, maybe a ’97 Vector before they stopped making them, then a valet parks for you and you glide her inside, with your hand on her ass. From CH’s argument, this is always a mistake — but if $500 is nothing to you, and you maintain dominance and frame, I see no reason why it wouldn’t help you lock down that bitch, particularly if she’s an HB9 or above . . . If you have $50M in assets, then such a dinner can be a cheap way to secure a ho-slut who’s 19 years old, but maybe she’s a model with income of her own. She could even be a daddy’s girl who will give you access to her bank account. Then, you reap and recoup your pittance investment when you drain her wallet. That’s exactly what I’d do. *shrug*
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who gives a shit if it’s reasonably priced or not? If you want fucking cheap calories GO TO TACO BELL
Why pay $60k for a Venard when you can just buy a poster? Why buy an exotic car?
Why are you people so mentally prole-ish? That’s the larger question here.
I’ve lived in this fuckin swamp for 25 years, don’t tell me what is or is not the case around here
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t777, it’s effeminate to care so much about these things.
You aren’t pwning your Inner Frame – your lust for Mammon is pwning your Inner Frame.
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CO were you the guy who told me that your knowledge of MG fare dwarfs mine? Bitch you can barely spell Michelin
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Take comfort, trav, that you’ve gotten the Saucy Queer nod of approval… and under his latest monicker at that!
High praise, indeed.
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Trav give it a rest. Many of us have eaten at this place and others like it all around the world. Few tout it as anything though. And the white truffle tagliatelle is way overpriced dish for suckers… But it is a “must have” right? lol
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Having taste is one thing, comparing dicks about it makes you sound like the people you are maligning, and I might also add borderline gay.
Gay men take high status from being foodies. Every once in a while dropping mad dollars on dinner in a place where you are getting the value is good. Bragging about it like you write for Zagat’s —> see faggotry.
Men eat food and can appreciate good food. Women obsess about it like they do about interior design. Search inside yourself and come to grips with why most people here are not defending your position. It is ok, btw, if you love the cock. I’m not here to judge.
But just because you are right, doesn’t mean you are not also wrong. See my post a bit farther up to understand what I mean. Or don’t. ZFG.
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It is unimaginably faggish that you want the whole blog to revolve around what you had for dinner.
Anyway, shouldn’t you be rolling around on a mat somewhere hugging some other man and smelling his ringpiece?
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Meh. Sometimes you just want to go out and enjoy yourself with a good meal, good company, good service, nice view of the Potomac and all the status-whoring whores who go there to show off. Plenty of attractive women there, my wife being one of them, and the eye wants candy too.
If you got the money make your life a little more enjoyable.
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Good company. i am pretty sure that Trav has no idea of what they might be. I imagine that whole streets of people must rush to cross the road when they see him coming, even ocean-going ships list dangerously hard to one side.
Trav: “I’ll have you know that everyone loves me. I paid $2000 for a piece of tail last night that is better than anything you will ever see even in a magazine that you couldn’t afford but i could and she told me I was the most fascinating man she had ever met, and she had met more fascinating men than…ad nauseam.”
So there. And you can believe it bcs I said it on the internet.
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I imagine that whole streets of people must rush to cross the road when they see him coming, even ocean-going ships list dangerously hard to one side.
And then he threatens to box their compass, amirite? lzlzozlzozlzol
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“even ocean-going ships list dangerously hard to one side.”
I fucking LOL’d hard at this, can’t lie. Rapier wit good sir… (*hat tip*)
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I’m not trying to defend Trav — but I have to disagree with Captain Obvious. There’s nothing effeminate about having preferences and taking a strong stance. One of the weaknesses of North America — and the New World in general — is a lack of appreciation for the finer things, and a huge push to deify the Middle Class, as if Middle Class was everything. For example, I like good fashion. Good fashion costs $$$$$ — lots of it. Design in clothes is EXACTLY like food . . . you could argue that it’s a waste, but I like it. Objectively speaking, haute couture — like the foodie haute — is far, far better. Materials better, colors brilliant, really interesting designs and texture. You can scream at me “fag” — but I also believe in abusing and treating women like shit, and fucking with liberal faggots. You don’t have to be a simpering effeminate in order to appreciate good food, housing, or clothes.
*raising finger* And I’ll note this: In terms of getting women, it helps to be stylish, it helps to be dominant, it helps not to care about their opinion . . . while simultaneously catering to their stupidities. A well-dressed man has the edge over a slob. Your Ferrari is going to impress more than his Civic. The PROBLEM comes when you start kissing the worthless twat’s ass and neglecting your own rights and powers in favor of hers. When you believe in romantic love or when you give ANYTHING to weakling inferiors, such as women. THAT is the problem — not Michelin, and not Karl Lagersfeld.
I change my mind. I am with Trav.
(Points to CH, though, for pointing out, accurately, that you can get good food for cheaper . . . BUT you have to look for it, AND you have to know what you’re looking for . . . AND the venue will be uglier . . . and you’re HB10 Victoria’s Secret model girl will be not wowed by it …..)
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Of course this is your take. You’re an insufferable ponce by any name, SorceryBlob.
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Sure, I’m Sorcerygod. *shrugs* You think I’m ashamed of my past handle? Takes a while to settle on the perfect nom-de-plume
80% of my haters hate me because I scared them with my anti-female talk (he’s a bomb! he’ll take us all with him! runnnnnnnn!) and 20% because I’m arrogant.
I could now slam you, but that about covers it. Not sure if you’re in the 80% or the 20% camp. Probably both.
X not a great believer in equality, between the sexes or among men themselves. Hashtag Cream Rises To The Top
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Unless your target is a sensible woman, X. Then the stylish clothing could cause her to mentally label you a metrosexual, the overpriced food a showboating snob, and the foreign car wasteful with money.
BUT considering DC chicks are the goal… You should be fine.
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I hate this, but X makes a solid point. There’s nothing wrong with being stylish or knowledgeable about food, clothes, etc., and it will usually help with women…. unless…. and here’s my contention with Trav here…. you’re an insufferable snotty prick about it.
So now CAN WE STOP TALKING ABOUT FOOD
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Sorcery,guys here pretend to hate you because you are annoying. You are a lonely teenage boy or college student with an active imagination. Your room must stink with all the cum you spray on the walls! Let us know when you get your first feel!
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Pretend? Not hardly…
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It appears our Saucy Queer is an educated man…
… now I KNOW I hate him.
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Just a reminder to avoid a rookie mistake: it’s perfectly ok to take a girl out for a couple drinks on a date (with you paying). Same thing with paying her admission for cheap events. She’s already shown interest, so don’t be a total cheapo. It looks bad.
But nothing that could be characterized as expensive. If you’re in doubt, you shouldn’t be paying for it.
Game is about balance.
[CH: late night cocktails are my go-to strategy for the first couple of dates, unless i’m on a daytime date in which case i’ll do fun stuff like a bocce date. i don’t do dinners with prospects, only gfs.]
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CH- this last piece of advice should be a Commandment. It’s absolutely dead on balls accurate.
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Trying to suck up,are we?
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The first “manosphere” writer I read was R. Don Steele in the 1990s. Not overspending on prospects was one of his fundamental principles. He would say, look and act like you have money, but don’t actually spend any serious amount — meet her for coffee, buy her a drink et cetera. $40 would have been more than recommended, while $400 would be insane.
Good advice then and now.
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the real problem is her latino name. the unfortunate beta squandered all that money on either mudshark issue or a product of wetbackery. in a nutshell, shithole humanzee offal.
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She has blue eyes and white skin, so my guess is she’s of Italian extraction, and using her first and middle name as her twatter/faceborg handle (whichever it is). Might explain why her date dropped $400 on Italian.
And yeah, only drop that amount if you’re 1) loaded, and 2) out for your anniversary dinner with your w!fe.
For one thing… spending that much on a first date screams to her that she’s the beta’s only option. After all, he spends $400 on all his first dates… right?…
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a fair point. but both miranda and lia are latino names and anyone living in an anglo-saxon country who names their kids like this is either trying to give them a leg up through affirmative action or status whoring. besides, it’s common for women of other ethnicities to want to be european-like. it’s no longer necessary for women to be born white to look white (at least on the outside).
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I have to say I’m on the other side of this. I usually took my first dates out to a nice dinner, if I couldn’t get them to come over and cook for them. Many same night lays, no friend zones although some fraction of the time no second date. Two wives.
[CH: you probably already sensed your dates were ready to put out, so dinner was more a formality than an enticement. betas who use dinner dates to pull women across the sex threshold are doomed to disappointment.]
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I wanted to poast something similar way up above here – so much of Game is simply in acquiring the experience [which includes learning to pay attention to whatever your instincts are screaming at you] that allows you to separate the Wheat from the Chaff.
OTOH, Nat Phil’s story sounds like he might be talking about dating chicks circa the 1980s/1990s [maybe even the early 2000s], and in 2018 iPhag-merica, it’s an entirely different world out there.
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Having them come over, go for a swim, then up to the room, opening some wine, making a little omelette aux fine herbes, eating on trays on the floor… music…
aaaaaaannnddd
Bang!
Perfect 1st date…
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Smoooooth
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You live in a fucking hotel?
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It was different for boomers. Nothing you experienced in 1972 bears any relevance to dealing with a 22 year old thot today.
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” I usually took my first dates out to a nice dinner”
This indicates one of two things. a) You are either a natural alpha (unlikely) who was gonna “close” either way or b) you are still living in blue pill beta land and think modern woman will really care about this whatsoever.
Pro tip– they do not. —Especially— on first date.
I went fucking nuts on match.com a few years back and literally had “50 first dates” in about a year it was like a 2nd job. I learned verrrrry quickly that dinner is free food, nothing more.
You know what they got then after the first few weeks and get now still? Coffee. Period. Coffee date is the best you are gonna get, and it may never get that good again. So fucking take it now or walk on. Why?
Coffee is for closers. That’s why. And I’m a closer and always have been thankfully.
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BTW side note- Alec Baldwin is a liberal cunt, but he plays one of the most apex alpha male’s in history in this scene.
That is the essence of life right there. Getting pussy works just like selling ANYTHING. He is 100% on point in this scene.
This is the essence of game boiled down and crystallized. “The leads are weak” Wrong… you are weak. Step up your fucking game.
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Baldwin wanted to go into politics. He hates the God Emperor because Trump had the balls to do it,Baldwin did not.
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“It was like a second job.”
Ha ha, so true.
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And I’m a closer and always have been thankfully.
You call yourself a closer, you son-of-a-bitch?
You got ‘steak knives’ written all over you.
You company man.
You fairy.
/jes’ playin’, bro 😉
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“You call yourself a closer, you son-of-a-bitch?
You got ‘steak knives’ written all over you.”
I fuckin’ LOL’d again, twice in one thread. Well played…
A little spot of light in the darkness, though I often have to “step back” from these websites to keep my sanity because the world really is crashing down and I’m pretty well blackpilled at this point. The fact that there are very funny and intelligent people through these sites is a bright point in a sea of filth and decay.
I suppose it is somewhat like gallows humor for those condemned to die. May as well have a laugh before the executioner’s blade falls.
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I suppose it is somewhat like gallows humor for those condemned to die. May as well have a laugh before the executioner’s blade falls.
If we hang, we’ll hang together. 😉
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Or he comes from a different era.
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How’s their stromboli?
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What do they charge for extra mushroom on my pizza?
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Or the garlic bread.
The real test, how many stars for their cheese fries?
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Don’t forget the Nacho Platter! I had to recently downgrade an establishment on the shocking lack of black bean.
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I’m gnocchi gonna tell you.
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I camenbert the suspense.
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Thread partially redeemed
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Not bad; but, try the veal: Best in the City.
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It’s to die for.
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Take the cannoli, too.
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Man
That side spinach better be orgasmic
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Let’s just hope it included some salt and a pat o’ butter, amirite?
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she’s seriously bragging about how much she ate. Either she’s stupid and thinks we didn’t notice she ate enough to feed a village or she just doesn’t care. not a great sign.
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Could be one of those places with ridiculously small portions.
Idk, I’m sure @Trav777 in all his cuisine superiority will momentarily set me straight. =D
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if you want huge portions go to Cheesecake Factory.
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@Trav777 I’m fascinated by how your mind works. If a place isn’t crazy expensive, it must be fast food. If the portions aren’t microscopic, they must be huge.
You may wanna get that black and white thinking looked at…
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Ain’t it funny how the greatest minds revert to but two dimensions when debate in Cyberia is on the table?
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L- let me set you straight here.
MOST of the restaurants in DC are fucking insanely overpriced. They are the “it” places.
The portions at Mare are not ridiculously small, but they aren’t large either. This is not a tasting menu place.
Is Olive Garden fast food? I mean, wtf…I recommended to you a place where you wouldn’t get “ripped off”
The problem with people who are unwilling to spend large amounts of money are usually that they know the price of everything and the value of nothing. So you would go blow $150 at a restaurant and think you did well but OMG Fiola Mare is “too” expensive.
That’s ass backwards. Spending $150 on Nikes is a waste of money and too expensive. Spending $300 on Prada shoes isn’t. I only really wear Prada shoes and I’m known for that and some mfers laugh at it bc wow you got all these prada shoes. Why? U think it’s because I’m a status whore? Nah, they last fuckin 10 years or more and still look new. The construction is bulletrproof. I wore the soles out on one pair and yet the uppers are still brand new looking. I’ve tried to shoe goo them repeatedly. Yeah so I am a cheapskate now who has Prada shoes? VALUE.
I rode dirtbikes in Pradas ffs, I been wearing the same couple pairs of shoes for over a decade. I’d have already gone through 5 pairs of slave made nike shit by now, because they are only CHEAPER.
Fiola Mare isn’t a waste of money whereas a TON of restaurants half that check WERE. So go to Olive Garden, get what you pay for. That’s my advice. I either eat CHEAP or I eat WELL. I do not like eating junk for too much money.
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If a RaWo ever comes assuming Trav is white …it sounds like he’ll shoot us all for being rednecks. Scruffy ones too.
DC is full of privks who are over paid government drones or contractors and they think the sun shines out of their ass.
I fucking hates those Cunts. Most of them are limousine liberals as well who would not last 5 minutes in a trench.
Skittles man is laughing at you.
It’s food wank.
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— assuming Trav is white
Now that you mention it, he does have a quarrelsome-niggy quality.
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I don’t mind a bit of irascibility… but he’s gotta come up with better insults.
THIS… IS… the CHATEAU!!!
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I was up especially bright and early this morning and am feeling magnanimous so I crudely put this one together to take the piss a bit. I’m no Cap’n Obvious but I think it captures the zeitgeist well enough.
Plus, I was doing my 2nd reduction on a wonderful lamb demi-glace this morning. Which if you are ANY fan of actual haute cuisine and not some fucking plebe you’d know this is a VERY labor intensive process. It will probably take me the rest of the day. I’m going to also do some interior re-design and go with a nice shade of pastel I think since I’ll have extra time waiting for that yummy demi-glace sauce to finish! *eye roll*
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@Trav I’m just ribbing you because you’re easy to rile, not because I particularly care what you choose to spend your money on.
If it truly makes you happy, rock on. ✌
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I don’t know why the Cunt is on here. If he likes food wank restaurants good for him…he doesn’t have to slander us in a condescending tone. He sounds exactly like an urban shitlib bashing Trump voters. I can’t spend 5 minutes in the company of people like this.
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And it’s idiots like Trav who blow all this money on European peasant food (which is what Italian and French food is).
The ultimate joke is fancy upscale Middle Eastern places like Lebanese Taverna charging $30 for a kebab .
I use knew Palestinians who were laughing at the dumb American fucks like Trav paying this for street food.
Indian food is the same…indians are laughing at charging $25 for an entree.
The entrees that are not stuffed with baking soda.
There’s a sucker born every minute.
The entire food industry is a,scam which is why there’s a restrestaurant on every corner.
Hey Trav…i got a second hand car for you…only a few miles on it…go on…impress your girl..lol
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I doubt that anything makes him happy. But that nigger point you made. That is an interesting thought and would explain the chips he has on both shoulders.
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Even the early game guys noted that stuffing yourself to the groaning point isn’t conducive to a romp in the hay afterward, plus the table gets in the way of kino.
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looking mostly 20 a plate think dude was overcharged lol
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“The food there was terrible… and such small portions!”
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Sweet Mercy. If you need to spend $400 on a single meal to feel like you’re living, your life is empty and possessed of no value. Make major changes.
You know what tastes better than $400 foodyoucantpronounce? Eating a meal with your children, made with love by your wife.
Seriously, get your lives in order.
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Hell, even a PB&J sandwich while listening to the latest tales from your sprogs has a savor seldom matched.
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This is the new normal for shitlib urban millennials. Many will never have families, only pets and “partners.”
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Greginaurora, admit it, you’re just sore that you’re “not in the same social strata” (lolz) as some snotty Prada wearing DC fag who eats at Michelin rated restaurants.
Now get back to Olive Garden, you Johnston&Murphy wearing prole.
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“Gynarcho-Tyranny”
Love it lol
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“punish swiftly, reward slowly” Poon commandment VI
nothing more needs to be said on this topic
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This is actually a really interesting debate between Trav777, me, and sometimes-alpha on one side and the room on the others.
Look, there’s no denying that CH is right in the foundations. Cheaper food does exist, and it can be just as good, or better, than the others.
But as someone pointed out, YOU ARE PAYING FOR MORE THAN THE FOOD ITSELF. Think of it this way: Imagine there are 2 girls standing there. One is OBVIOUSLY fit and big-titted, great face, smiling pleasantly. The other is hidden in a hoodie and may be wildly chubby, you don’t know. CH’s hypothetical “great Italian place” is the hoodie girl. She MAY be a fine piece of ass and a great bargain, BUT THE OTHER HOTTIE’S RIGHT THERE AND SHE’S VERIFIED IN HER OPEN LOOKS.
When you cruise by one of these Michelin places, you KNOW it will be very good. Will it be exactly dollar for dollar the best? Maybe not, but you’re guaranteed to get superiority. If you’re frugal, sure, take the risk. You can also scour the Net for free MP3s, or you can stop being such a holier-than-thou cheapskate and pay 99 cents at iTunes online.
There are tradeoffs for everything. IF CH’S MAIN POINT had been, hey, the only heaven isn’t in Spago’s, I would fully and heartily agree.
But if Trav777 then says, hey, you get better VALUE from Spago’s, you really do. And his point is even more valuable for things like clothes, like he says . . . same thing for consumer electronics, buying Sony or buying some piece of shit China-Chink knockoff from Guangzhou. The mid-price range IS a trap, oftentimes. Not always . . . I have a pair of $170 price-point Puma’s I bought in Vancouver recently from Brown’s (high-end store) and realistically they’re mid-range but I THINK they’re amazing, and they’re super-comfy and my judgment is they’ll last. But if I could have, I would have bought the top-of-the-line $1,000 pair made by European white hands. Food . . . okay, somewhat ephemeral, often experience-based. But don’t worship the middle-class experience, and told tell me we’re pussies for wanting the best . . . which is often, as Trav spoke, best VALUE.
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Tweets like that one need to be spread far and wide. Game aside, the beta bux spigot needs to be shut off.
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Also shows why you’d better google anyone you’re even pondering getting serious about (or if you’re a beta like this poor schnook, dropping $400+ on).
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It’d be too bad if this guy got his buddy (under a false name) to take the same gal out to an even pricier place (ask trav777 for suggestions), wait till the grub is served, then go to “wash up” and slip out the back.
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It all depends. According to the 48 laws of power, giving gifts is more likely to get you something in return. As long as that intention is kept hidden from the other person. Also, you have to be willing to call in the favor when it’s time. Buying a girl things in hope that she’ll change her mind and go to bed with you isn’t the route to go. But if you’re assertive about what you want and remind her of what you’ve given her, odds are she’ll feel like she should reward you as opposed to you not given her anything at all.
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But 400 dollars is way over the top, especially for a resturaunt date. If I spend 400 dollars, you’re damn right I’m owed sex.
[CH: the average amount i’ve spent on first and second dates with cute babes that i would fuck in short order has been, by my estimate, no more than $40 and probably closer to $20. a couple of appletinis for the lady and it’s off to the races.]
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sch((weinstein)) game . how’d work for him in the long run?
as to Matre’s opening article, if a girl is interested she’ll offer YOU food.
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The 48 laws of power are not about getting laid.
[CH: greene wrote a follow-up book called the 48 laws of seduction, or something]
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The art of seduction. I own both books. CH helped me get laid more than the Art of Seduction. While informative, it wasn’t very practical
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It was just a bunch of bullshit about what some French count did to get pussy. Skip it. And the same goes for that German fag with the Be Here Now shit.
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Off topic.
Sort of…
http://sandrarose.com/2018/03/diversity-fail-women-engineering-team-behind-collapse-miami-pedestrian-bridge/
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Old news… covered about three threads ago.
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tbf, is not that women as such (in small numbers) are inherently/intrinsically incapable of being passable, good, and even excellent engineers.
however I have sincere doubts the ‘Merkin edumakashional complex and corporate kultur are able to make the proper candidate selection, and then successfully deliver the theoretical and practical training required.
a little bit like with negro/spanish professionals. if they’d be discriminated against, you’d know that the rare negro/spanish physician/engineer/professor you run into is top notch.
afirmation-aktion ensures that the negro/spanish professional you interact with will be inferior to the similarly titled huwhyte or azn
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a little bit like with negro/spanish professionals. if they’d be discriminated against, you’d know that the rare negro/spanish physician/engineer/professor you run into is top notch.
This is the way it used to be, before AA claptrap… you could almost immediately trust a nonWhite in a usually White discipline, because they still had to go through the same wringers that a White man had to.
Now, the minute I see a nonWhite or woman in said position, I can’t use ’em, in good conscience. ESPECIALLY if they talk any of that poopytalk about “we bring a new perspective to the field”.
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also, o the original bill, it looks like a feast for 3-4 not a dinner for 2, unless its two landwhales
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There’s a swanky Irish pub nearby that serves a traditional Irish 7 course meal…
… a six-pack and a baked potato.
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lol
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I think the 6-pack is an appetizer at an irish pub
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Come to the pub in my hood with that and you’ll get the two course special: The right and then the left!😉
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A knuckle sandwich!
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“Ya know, Yank… I’ve taken quite a likin’ to ya. Me sister… the widow… she coulda done a lot worse.”
“Thanks… I’m gettin’ kinda fond o’ you, too.”
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LOL. $403.70 for a LJBF rejection. Best VALUE my ass. Dude should have stuck to Black Dragon’s $15 rule.
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Has anyone tried that Scottish restaurant I’ve been hearing so much about…
… the one with the two golden arches?
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You mean the one flipped into a golden “W” in “celebration of women everywhere?”
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Lovin it. McD’s Black365 fuck yeah!
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lol @ boasting about going to expensive restaurants like it’s a badge of honor. This is actually a sign that one hasn’t grown up with an appreciation for real food. They are trying to buy their way into it at a later age. People who grew up in food cultures don’t talk about that stuff, not even the French. America is a junk food culture so decent food costs a lot more.
Some of the expensive pasta I’ve had in NY was really no better than what I’ve eaten at middle of the road restaurants in Milan.
777 reminds me of college kids who just discovered Tarkovsky and Godard.
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Emperor’s New Clothes Syndrome. Some opinion-maker opens his pie-hole and every follower in town lines up to agree.
What else would you expect in a city of politicians and public teat-suckers?
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That is my experience exactly.
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$400 can buy a whole lotta moo shu puppy
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I’ll throw my two cents in. I’ve been a working chef for 22 years and while I have not worked in a starred restaurant, I work in a highly rated one in the northeast. my chefs have worked in starred places. European guys that make these citypaper hot spots look like a bunch of fuckin pansies. Ive worked with guys that have run in places that you cant get into for 6 months. Yes, its another world to work in, let alone eat there. All agree its not chilis. But I agree with CH, the status signaling is what drives this often very good food to be overpriced and not worth it compared to flying to another country and enjoying the real deal. . Yes, we all love good food, but instagrammers and namedropping is what makes this what it is. Man, who the fuck puts their receipt on their social media. So tacky and low class. and i say that as a prole. In my opinion, for most it is not the food, it’s signaling that they are not me lol. That they have great taste and money to burn. Fuck them, except they are why I have a job.
I make shit money, always in competition with George Soros’ back of the house staff of preppers and sautee cooks, despite non stop 50-60 hour weeks with some tasty overtime Its hard to eat at places like these. I dont, others in the industry do. To each his own.
slightly o/T Every chef dreams of their own place. My grandmother had a recipe book that was the collected recipes from the revolutionary war period passed down by the Daughters of the Revolution. I want to open a place that serves Heritage American food to those who want refuel to MAGA. I would open it next to one of those refugee meat on a stick places.
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. In my opinion, for most it is not the food, it’s signaling
Right, which is why she left the restaurant name visible… not enough that it was $400…
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Working at a restaurant, especially as a chef, is brutal. I think that’s why on the chef competition shows they never give them very reasonable time to work with, because it lets the viewers know what it’s like to be in the weeds. Long hours and stress, decent money but not great. I always thought the chefs who ate out at the expensive places did that because they’d get a price break, by knowing the owner or chefs that work there.
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Stoly,
You get that restaurant up and running and I’ll treat CH and the best of Le Chateau’s commenters to dinner.
First round in on Greg, though.
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Done… and leave a good tip, I don’t want you lookin’ like a cheapskate.
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There is a place like that in Purcellville already. I believe it is called the Post House. Colonial food uses garlic, BTW and is spiced more imaginatively than modern British fare. Watch the Townsend’s series on YouTube. It is pretty fascinating and good for survival skills.
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That would do really well in DC. Colonial food is basically British food from 200 years ago with ingredients adapted to the New World.
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i’m starting to feel like a thot the bitches that want me I don’t want
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The Spirit’s gotta move ya, Mr Spirituality.
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Delusional as usual.
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ohne Fosfor
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In this Tinder age I’d be surprised any (white) guy still takes a date to dinner…nevermind a $400 one.
Also how did she see the bill?
If it was a white dude…I’d say he wanted to try the restaurant and expense it to his firm and just wanted some eye candy on his arm
Or he is a sugar daddy and $400 is nothing to him and he has half a dozen thots in tow
Or he’s a gay guy and wantrd to try this ‘amazing’ place with a fag hag and she’s joking or lying
Also perhaps…seems he friend zoned her and she’s saying she did it to him on social media
I just don’t see any loser doing this in this day and age. Guys are not stupid …evrn video game Greg knows he can watch top puss online or buy a hooker…a pizza and still have the cab fare home for $400.
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Why’d he have to be named ‘Greg’? 😡
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Alliteration?
I know Video Game Greg
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Hell, again, if you can drop $400 on a failed try to get laid, and don’t feel like learning game, you ought to just buy it.
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For $400 you can buy David DeAngelo’s latest program and learn Game. Then…pussy.
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Taking girls to fancy restaurants is what girls do. It’s a woman hobby so you are already in her frame and she’s sitting there as a judging panel waiting for you to impress her.
You’re better off doing a guys thing with her…the NRA museum in Fairfax…a hockey game etc.
She has to impress you.
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I guess I’m low class. The only item I recognized as a food or beverage on that reciept was spinach.
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I have seen the word “spumoni” before but thought it was some kind of wine. I guess I was thinking of Spumante which is about $7.99 a bottle at Aldi.
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One of my first “dates” with my wife I made chicken nuggets and ramen with some frozen veggies mixed in and Alfredo sauce poured over everything with some Busch Light to drink. Got laid that night. It also had the great side effect of her insisting on cooking from then on.
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Lol
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Lol same here. For all I knew they were really chugging that vino. Spumoni is like fancy ice cream, I think.
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If memory serves, it’s a little cup, maybe about 2″ diameter, and it’s a delicious ice cream sort of thing, but a bit creamier, and the flavor I had tasted like a combo of vanilla, a tad o’ rum, and cinnamon.
I wish I was still eating it. 😦
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Check that… I might be thinking of tortoni.
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Skittles + “Bring da movies!” instead.
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$400 for a dinner date? And he was friend-zoned?
As the kid on Simpsons would say, “HAW haw!!”
Dumbass.
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I hate the tipping culture. should be a service charge, if that.
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I don’t care about your ‘policy’. I covered breakfast, throw in your buck like everybody else, ya cheap bastid!
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this tipping automatically,
it’s for the birds.
As far as I’m concerned,
they’re just doin’ their job.
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Okay, I’m convinced. Let me get my buck back.
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20%, u worse than a yid! or cook ur own food
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It’s the one occupation where a woman who isn’t college educated can still make a decent living.
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Hell, we might as well cover the whole scene, for any yegg what’s been living in a cave:
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The only people that say that are those that have never worked for tips. Waiters don’t really get paid, the official rate is something like $2/hr. The tip IS their pay.
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even in states that pay the full rate for tipped workers, if you dont tip like 15% at least then you’re a “nazi”
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the main issue for people (like me) that live on suburban (or like) places is logistics. especially in areas that are heavily tough on drink-and-drive (zero tolerance in some areas)
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Start a booze delivery service.
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hehehe I do own plenty of alcohol at home. it’s just that after certainly age is hard to invite women (except very lower smv) directly to your house
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And while we are at it – never pay $40 for an entrée-sized plate of pasta. Jesus.
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DC is almost literally the capital of Panem, isn’t it?
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And of “circenses” if I remember my Juvenal aright. (No, I can’t lie, I looked it up)
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I know a great italian comedian (Giuseppe Giacobazzi)who did one of his best pieces about this phenomenon.
He jokes about being (he does not use these exact words) a blue pilled husband.
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I know a great italian comedian (Giuseppe Giacobazzi)who did one of his best pieces about this phenomenon.
He jokes about being (he does not use these exact words) a blue pilled husband.
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Just to give an idea:
The most cheap element is
Panna still (9 dollars): just bottled water.
The most expensive element (85 dollars) is probably (I guess) some white sparkling wine, like prosecco.
I, as an Italian, would suggest some place where you eat well for 30 euros each. And that just when there is something to celebrate.
This restaurant is good to stun one potential client for some high profit business.
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it’s pasta with white truffles. half portion 😉
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That is literally like a half a raisin’s worth of truffle sliced up finely.
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I know a guy who sells truffles in Vegas. He has them FLOWN in, and then starts a bidding war between the fou-fou restaurant chefs. He’s like a drug dealer, shit is like $1000 an ounce or something.
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Looked up tagliatelle on google; supposed to be an afrodisiac
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there vash von fool born every minut
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Lmao poor kid actually googled “expensive aphrodisiacs”
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I have a hint of Italian blood , hoping to dial it in to get this pizza twirling down pat.
Btw y’all some cultured mofos. I one day hope to even experience the food that’s being written about here haha.
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The real kicker is, the guy felt AWESOME paying for it.
Think deeply about that.
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Guys like to status whore too.
Our culture where its gauche to display wealth is highly abnormal and worse encourages virtue signaling . I’d rather people just wore fancy clothes and jewelry instead. Fuck the Puritanism
Now $400 for a meal is nuts , I could get a decent meal, some craft beer, a clean motel room and a legal prostitute for around that
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Btw y’all some cultured mofos.
Yeah, us yeggs can put on the dog when we feel like it.
Last night I made myself a buffalo chicken wrap and threw in some multigrain chips for crunchiness.
And I was thankful for it. 😉
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One of the best meals I can remember eating was homemade bread, havarti cheese and water after a day of hiking and swimming in Yellowstone. It’s been over 25 years and I can still remember how incredible it all tasted to me at the time.
Total cost: $5
[CH: food never tastes better than when you’re hungry from outdoor exercise.]
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DC restaurant, eh? Oh, you know the taxpayers were getting slammed for that bill, plus tip.
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