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The Dark Tetrad

There’s a growing consensus in the social sciences that women swoon uncontrollably for men who possess the suite of psychological traits known colloquially as the Dark Triad. But now a new study has come out which throws an additional psychological trait into the mix of (mostly) male pathologies that cause women to cream their pretty pantaloons:

Sadism.

Behavioral confirmation of everyday sadism.

Past research on socially aversive personalities has focused on subclinical psychopathy, subclinical narcissism, and Machiavellianism-the “Dark Triad” of personality. In the research reported here, we evaluated whether an everyday form of sadism should be added to that list. Acts of apparent cruelty were captured using two laboratory procedures, and we showed that such behavior could be predicted with two measures of sadistic personality. Study 1 featured a bug-killing paradigm. As expected, sadists volunteered to kill bugs at greater rates than did nonsadists. Study 2 examined willingness to harm an innocent victim. When aggression was easy, sadism and Dark Triad measures predicted unprovoked aggression. However, only sadists were willing to work for the opportunity to hurt an innocent person. In both studies, sadism emerged as an independent predictor of behavior reflecting an appetite for cruelty. Together, these findings support the construct validity of everyday sadism and its incorporation into a new “Dark Tetrad” of personality.

“However, only sadists were willing to work for the opportunity to hurt an innocent person.”

Not sure why, but that line makes me

“Yeah, tough day at the office. Didn’t get to backstab as many cheerful coworkers as I wanted to. May have to work overtime this weekend to make up for the knife twisting deficit.”

Naturally, the question that arises is if a man with an appetite for cruelty (why you lookin’ at me funny?) has the same effect on a woman’s desire as does a man with the traditional Dark Triad traits. Narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy… chicks dig men with them. How about we throw wanton cruelty into the demonic stew. Does the full flowering of the Dark Tetrad turn a skilled ladyslayer into a God of Gash? My anecdotal impression is that it does. Oh sure, no woman will actually admit to being turned on by a sadistic man, but just watch how they act after the bastard has uncorked some wholly unnecessary joke at some innocent naif’s expense.

Offhand, a few of history’s great womanizers had a streak of sadism, a thrill for the soulkill. Maybe, like the Dark Triad, sadism signals alpha male mating value. A cocky disregard for retribution or rules, an indifference to the feelings of others, a concern only for one’s own pleasure… this is the stuff of alluring men.

Or perhaps sadism is like charm: easily overdone. Too much charm is icky and provokes distrust in women. Too much sadism, or misdirected sadism, might do the same. But just a little bit, once in a while, is the spice that stirs a woman’s sexuality.

81 Responses to “The Dark Tetrad”

  1. Anonymous says:

    second

  2. Sid says:

    Rough sex works well. We all know that.

  3. Greatest Beta says:

    THIS!

    As someone with a sadistic side I have seen it generate tingles.

    Field report:

    Went to a mid tier city lounge club. DJ from Vegas was spinning and the vibe was good. 6 weeks post break up and my emotional state is getting exponentially better.

    I open 2 girls at the bar, they take selfies and I say “Instagram photos already, you should take another later for comparison” they giggle and we chat for 15 mins. I see other girlies looking (qualification) but they were not cute enough so I got bored and left.

    I flirted with one of the waitresses which was über hot slutty with a sleeve tat but electric eyes and great cheekbones. I tell her “nice cheekbones we would make great babies” she gobbled it up strong kino from the start as attraction was there and my vibe was on fire. I put myself in the vibe by chatting people up and dancing to the music.

    Then I spot this hottie from Mexico she had freckles I pointed them out she giggled. Start talking about dancing how I loved merengue and salsa she said let’s dance I didn’t go just because then she was staring and I was like time to go it was 2am got sleepy.

    I noticed how tense my friends were one of them is 32 recently single good looking but no game he’s used to drunk pickup with 6s. I studied him to see what not to do I saw him with his hand in his pocket as he didn’t want to harm his already suffering ego due to fear and self doubt.

    The bartender was vibing me hard I talked to her for a bit but my game isn’t up to par for bartenders just yet. Only one way to learn and that is by trial and error.

    Pushing your comfort zone is the biggest issue for most men. I can easily bang 6s and some 7s but I notice how intimidated they are from me it’s cute but the attraction isn’t there as my last 3 LTR were hard 8s sexy as hell. Slowly but surely I’m pushing my limits and comfort zone to these hotter tighter girls which require way better game frame control and serious confidence like the rock of Gibraltar. It’s a different ball game in the world of 8s and up but that is the promised land no guts no glory.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      > “my last 3 LTR were hard 8s sexy as hell”

      What’s your definition of “LTR”?

      For my definition, I’d have to go all the way back and include one of my high school girlfriends in order to get to 3 lifetime.

      BTW, did any of these 3 LTRs produce any live births?

      Because 3 LTRs [or at least what I would call an “LTR”], with zero children afterwards, is a heckuva lotta purposeless fornication.

      Unless maybe you’re being a smart-ass, and “LTR” means “a week or two”.

      • Greatest Beta says:

        The three long terms were for as long as follows: 1.5 yrs, 4 yrs, 14 months

        LTR is 6 months or longer, in my book. Anything less is really a fling.

        • Zombie Shane says:

          Okay, that’s a sum total of about six years of fornicating.

          Any live births from it?

          Or are we talking about a Total Fertility Rate of 0.0?

          • Greatest Beta says:

            no live births but one abortion
            learning to reframe my game from lover boy to short term lover
            this will tons of work and trial and error but super excited about it

  4. oogenhand says:

    Reblogged this on oogenhand.

  5. splooge says:

    Perhaps those have sadism and the dark triad quality display alpha qualitys women like. If you this type of behavoiur i dont see how you can be beta. I think women like these qualities cuz of evokution. She wanted the stringest warrior to take care of herr. And these warriors totally must have sadism an dark teiad mentality.
    The only cultures keft tgat have this mentalty i think would be latin americavmiddle east russia.

    • Anonymous says:

      seems like a sadist or criminal guy could either be alpha (villainous mastermind) or omega (loser misfit)

  6. Anonymous says:

    “innocent”

    ha.

  7. ShipShape says:

    Correct – The dark triad or tetrad will get you plenty of short term “damaged goods.”
    The women who are worth it in the long run have the emotional capacity to see through this (maybe not right away). They will mostly avoid the mess of the dark triad or tetrad. Chance are that they have stepped into the mess at least once before, but now are *smart* enough and emotionally strong enough to walk past it when they see it again.

    So, the men that possess these traits DO appear to get all the girls. But these are the damaged goods. For some men, that is exactly what they want, and we can teach them to capitalize on these traits to get more and more damaged goods…

    And this will continue to feed their theory that “all women are f*cked up.”
    Because all the women they have any chance with will INDEED be f*cked up.
    And the cycle will continue…

    • As someone who works with many successful people, most of which have graduate degrees, I see a lot of educated “classy” women fall for some sadistic dark triad types. CEOs and other successful males often have the desired traits and attract women that aren’t originally of the damaged goods category. Its the beta males that end up with the damaged goods and the goods have often been “damaged” due to failed interactions with alpha males.

      I believe “alpha fuks, beta bucks” might be appropriate as soft background music here.

      • earl says:

        I’m really getting tired of women who trigger this whole alpha fux-beta bux scheme. They either want your dick or money based on what part of their life they are in, what emotions are flowing through their head, or what decisions they made.

        Well for me they are a packaged deal.

        Men have continued to stupidly allow this nonsense.

    • Wilson says:

      Quality women are only attracted to weak nice-guy losers? Tell me more!

    • Mr.C says:

      Well said ShipShape.
      Never, ever feel sorry for a woman that’s been f*cked over by a “dark triad man”; she most likely deserved it.
      In other words, if you are going to tap dance with the devil, you better wear your tap dancing shoes baby, but don’t be suprised if you get burnt.

    • Question: What do you get when you take a white knight and give him a small dose of Red Pill knowledge?

      Answer: White Knight 2.0. Infiltrating the manosphere, these fools dilute the message by mixing white knighting nonsense with bits of truth.

      White Knight 2.0 (TM): Even more annoying than the old version.

  8. Holden Caulfield says:

    I’d love to see a CH post or YaReally comment on bartender game, as in picking up hot female bartenders. Seems to be a skill one needs to develop to round out their seduction repertoire.

    • Greatest Beta says:

      100 percent. There’s a few bartenders I have in mind that are hot :)

      Wisdom in this area greatly appreciated

    • the_spiral says:

      I tended bar in college, but I was engaged at the time. This was a place that mainly hired hot young women as staff. I did notice a certain guys managed to sleep with other bartenders. A few things to keep in mind depending on where you live:

      – One night stands are more difficult to pull off because bartenders go home with cash and are paranoid about safety/being robbed.
      – Female bartenders get lots of stalkers and unwanted attention that they have to put up with for tips, so social proof is necessary.
      – In some states bartenders aren’t allowed to drink behind the bar so often they’re the only sober girls in the place.
      – Bartenders abhor customer drama because it affects their money, which is why they’re much more likely to sleep with male coworkers. So you need to make it clear you’re not going to show up stalking or causing a scene.

      The guys I noticed pulling bartenders were mostly “cool” regulars – they came in frequently, were friends with staff and management, and fit in well with the culture of the place. I don’t think aloof/mysterious game works well here unless you’re very rich or handsome – otherwise you’re just the weird lone guy at the end of the bar. If you can make friends with the doormen, managers, or (better yet) the owner, you will have social status within the small incestuous subculture of the bar, and female staff will go out of their way to flirt with you. I will leave it to CH or YaReally to talk about the finer points of Game here, just leaving a few observations!

      • Greatest Beta says:

        Good points thanks you. Know the staffing and being s regular is a must for bartender game.

      • walawala says:

        @spiral. This is true of any social circle game. There has to be a mix of aloof mystery: “Who is that guy who comes in here all the time, orders an Old Fashioned, tips well, always seems busy…dresses well…who is he!??”

        Vs: Who’s the mangy creep at the bar cradling his Bud Lite staring at me until closing time blind drunk?

        Your description is interesting because it lends itself to this type of analysis but it contains all the elements of attraction:

        1) Leader of men:
        2) protector of women and children: aloof but still paying, keeping your crap together in contrast to the other clientele
        3) pre-selected by other women —i’m sure those guys banging bar-tenders showed up with girls at some point.

  9. Bob Wallace says:

    Sadists are sadists because of their desire for power, domination and control. Those traits cover up a weak, damaged self. Bully on top, coward underneath.

    I’ve seen a few these guys badly beaten…for five seconds. After which they collapsed and started begging. My contempt for them is complete.

    • Anonymous says:

      I think all men desire power and domination to a certain extent… these type of guys can be either alpha or omega imo, not really anywhere in between. Betas aren’t really ‘good’ or ‘bad,’ they are just the masses with no values at all and just follow the reigning authority.

    • Exurban says:

      Your point about sadistic behaviour emanating from a damaged self is a good one, but not every bully is a coward. Some criminals bikers gangsters are genuinely tough. Saddam Hussein, weird as the example may seem to some, was a tyrannical sadistic monster but he wasn’t a coward.

  10. bob says:

    What happens if you beat the shit out of a Dark Triad Guy™ in front of his girlfriend right after one of his mischiefs? Psychopaths and the sorts are guys who push the boundaries of power further away than do the average guys. They don’t respect the social “status-quo”. They get in other people’s business.

    Pretty easy to do when 95% of guys out there are walking pussies. But if you oppose your power to the Dark Triad, the pussy will swarm your direction. Better yet, guys will swarm your direction, and good guys too.

    Can’t we talk about game from a power point of view every now and then on this blog? Eventually that’s where we will have to go anyway.

  11. tspark156 says:

    Female selection preference of genes that have the necessary qualities for perpetuation. Women’s nature in one sentence.

  12. lagunabeachfogey says:

    Time and again we observe that chicks dig guys who are violent or appear to have the ready capacity for violence.

    • Anonymous says:

      Well yeah, duh, it isn’t too hard to figure out! If she can get on his good side then his violent tendencies can help to protect her.

      • barbed berry says:

        Yeah, that’s her hamster rationalization wheel in overdrive. Men who are violent by nature will turn that violence against her in time, no matter how sweetly the hamster whispers. But then she might like it anyway, much to her surprise.

  13. Anonymous says:

    Off topic but it appears that the lefties are winning the game of “freeping” articles attacking Ted Cruz and the right on Obamacare.

    Of all places, Businessinsider.com has a so-called conservative blogger named Josh who is really as far left as you can get. He’s publishing a series of articles that childishly say that Ted Cruz is From Another Planet. But this is a major business website. They are supposed to be grown ups there but they are not on this one subject. The lefties are upvoting all the comments that agree with Josh but the ratio is only along the lines of 30 votes left vs 12 votes right.

    One visit to the blog by the readers of this one blog could blow away those numbers.

    Since this blog supports conservatism, it shouldn’t be too much trouble for the blogger to set up minor “freeps” which means send us to articles where the lefties have upclicked radical left wing comments.

    Unfortunately it would seem that CH would have to ask us to “freep” the comments which means upvote the stuff we agree with at the very least.

    It’s not too hard to do this. It wouldn’t be beta. The other side are getting paid to do upvote lefty nonsense but it’s easy to overrun them.

  14. Why is anyone surprised at women’s affinity for the depraved aspects of human nature? Women are as warped by sin as we men are. If you want a cool-headed and clear-eyed assessment of the wretched malevolence in all of our hearts, just crack open the nearest New Testament. Give John 3, Romans 1 and Romans 3 extra attention. No candy-coated feel-good warm fuzzy affirmation there, folks.

    Just keep in mind that an accurate understanding of how things are is not enough to tell you how things ought to be … nor will it even tell you that things will always be this way. Humanity can’t change itself, but humanity may be changed someday nonetheless.

    • peppermint says:

      Humanity can and is changing itself, through choices in how breeding happens. The biggest lie progressives tell themselves is that not consciously, explicitly choosing means not choosing.

      It’s like they’re hoping for sane defaults or something. Now, the dating market in England five hundred years ago was pretty conducive to cultivating a civilized people. That’s not what we have anymore.

      Why sadism?

      Sadism is an honest signal that indicates to everyone that you don’t expect to ever have to depend on the person you’re being cruel to. Of course chicks dig it.

      Ever wonder why niggers like to beat the people they rob? Ever been shocked by their sadistic brutality? Now you know why they do it.

      They evolved to.

      In their native habitat, niggers don’t form families the way the other races of Homo Sapiens do. Nigger does are economically self-sufficient, so they are looking for the sexist, highest-status buck to breed them. In their native habitat, niggers make social gestures like narcissism and cruelty because it helps them to breed all the nigger does in the vicinity.

      The worst thing about progressivism is, the same evolutionary logic that makes niggers beat blind men while a security camera watches, or shoot tourists who have already handed over their wallets, *will* also act on Whites.

      How long did it take for the English to become the kind of civic-minded people who would help anyone in the area, who preferred the good of their nation over the impulse towards nepotism and corruption?

      To be the kind of people who would ever try to pretend that everyone is the same, and should have the same basic rights, including people who are manifestly not them?

      How long will it take for the average American to become as cruel, narcissistic, and incapable of sustaining civilization, as the average nigger?

  15. JayMan says:

    There may be something to this. For example, not all psychopaths are compulsively violent; the traits are distinct. One would imagine that not all psychopaths are cruel, either. They are just indifferent to such should it be necessary.

    I’m going to have to investigate. Staffan might also be interested in this.

  16. expat229 says:

    In my experience, demanding that a woman give you anal sex—or any other sex that is distinctly and deliberately painful—is kryptonite to women: Once they take it painfully, they surrender completely.

    The old John Mellencamp tune is completely on the money: “Hurts So Good”.

    • OralCum says:

      I just heard today that Miles Davis, ,after a stroke,was instructed to take up drawing as therapy. He became an obsessive artist and his works were sometimes displayed publicly. One such showing was a two man affair:Miles’ work was shown alongside that of… Johnny Cougar Mellencamp. Weird aint it? But Cougar sent $10,000 to the colored boys in LA who beat up the white guy. He is an asshole.

  17. IHTG says:

    Isn’t it just a symptom of psychopathy?

  18. This is all good and fine but as I say: “Siempre ahi alguien mas chingon que uno”. Esto es precisamente por lo que siempre trato de no pasarme de vergas. Ya si es inevitable pues a matar o morir ni modo, si me chingan bien y si no mejor. Pero como dije mejor ahi que evitar los problemas.

    You may think your a tough guy but there is always someone tougher than you. This is precisely why I try to avoid conflicts. If it is unavoidable and it comes to kill or be killed, then whatever man I’ll do my best to survive. If the outcome is I die good and if not even better. But as I said it’s better to avoid problems.

    • BadAssMoFo says:

      Great wisdom amigo. I think what happens is people often conflate sadism with courage and good with weak. I believe that good combined with courage trumps sadism most of the time. As someone with low sadism but above average bravery I have been involved a number of brawls and near-brawls, and am currently running about .700. The key is having other allies who are good, but also narcissistic and courageous. Avoiding conflict if not necessary is obviously the best choice, but occasionally some sadistic fuck delivers it to you so the fight is unavoidable.

      On the other hand, as far as social settings I have experienced people who are otherwise balanced on the psychopathy/narcissism/Machiavellian aka charming but sadistic totally ruining parties, events, and other assorted gatherings. They did not get pussy that night and ruined a number of relationships and opportunities for pussy in the future. I have seen these same people keep their sadism under wraps and it was good for everybody involved and their beneficial traits shined.

      Just to avoid any confusion, yanking a girls hair, mild choking, bossing them around, slapping their ass and calling them a bitch and telling them to shut the fuck up during sex is NOT sadism because you aren’t really trying to hurt them, you’re just giving them a thrill that they actually enjoy.

  19. cyote says:

    No. No, no, no. Gentleness, all the way. Aggression in any kind of man is a major turn-off for a long-term relationship. If you want to be a short-term fling or an emotional crutch or a mistake, go ahead and exploit this pattern, but don’t expect to get very far.

    Of course, some of you only want a quick bang if you can even get one. Treat women – and people in general – like this site suggests and prepare to be alone.

  20. Rum says:

    I cannot think of a way to prove it, but I believe the biggest mistake evo-psyche people make is to over-estimate the importance of long term provisioning and protection by a “dad” in the mate choosing hind-brain wiring deep inside the female id. Very, very few few mammalian species have females that depend at all for either from the male of their choosing. They can choose solely on the basis of His fittness unto himself.
    If the human female sexual activation module was designed to be primarily tuned to find good providers and protectors the last traits revealed by males that would be allowed to resonate into gina tingles would be the dark ones like Sadism. Seriously, how would that work in real life? Sadists = Keeps his wife safe and well fed? Not “Has the strong qualities that would allow him to succeed as a Sadist” but the actual manifestation of cruelty for its own sake. There is quite a large difference between the 2 and I find it hard to believe that natural selection would not deal harshly with female IDs that could not tell the difference – unless female dependency on a stable Dad is such a recent fact that changes in their brains to accomodate its necessities are highly incomplete.

  21. earl says:

    I prefer inflicting the pain upon myself either through weightlifting heavy sets, the punching bag, fasting, or testing my limits…it is quite fun.

    Who cares if it does or does not generate tingles in a woman, she responsible for those…what I do generates tingles in me.

  22. sigmatika says:

    Daily reminder that you should be choking your woman during sex.
    There are two ways to do this: First, put your hand on her neck, and with thumb on one side and fingers on the other, squeeze, slowing the flow of blood to her head. All women like this.
    Second, you can actually push down on her throat and actually choke her, preventing her from breathing. Only the most masochistic bitches enjoy this.
    If you’re nervous about doing either, just put your hand on her throat during sex, and there’s a good chance she’ll give you the go-ahead to choke her.
    This is by far my favorite position: her on her back, me on top, with my hand on her throat, and her hands holding onto my arm, as if she’s trying to resist.
    Extra points if I can get her to say ‘no’ or ‘stop.’ My current girl doesn’t like to say ‘no’, which is pretty much my only problem with her performance.

    I’m a certifiable class-2 sexual sadist. It’s about time Heartiste got with it and wrote about the female preference for, not just assholes, but sadistic assholes. Last week I spanked ma blonde with a belt because she was acting crazy, and It led to a crazy cock-worshiping good time. Though I wouldn’t recommend such behavior (’cause it can land you in jail) it worked out really well for me.

    Also worth mentioning that not only are woman attracted to sadism, but women’s sexuality is fundamentally masochistic. Think about it: the whole sexual act, for a female, involves getting repeatedly stabbed (with cock) in their most private area.

  23. Spiralina says:

    http://knowyourmeme.com/videos/75139-fail

    Beta of the century here. Notice his grimace as he slowly realizes his huge mistake.

  24. Rum says:

    The fact that pregnant HUMAN females need a provider and protector is true. At least until the appearance of the Welfare State. But if one accepts that human females evolved from an endless parade of fore-sisters who did not and if one accepts that neuro-evolution happens mainly by the addition of fore-brain controls onto more primitive hind brain reflexes the picture of the female hind brain craving something quite different than what the “logical” fore-brain thinks it should comes into clear focus.

  25. Troll Ride says:

    Assuming that is a limit to sadism being effective for game, the traditional Dark Triad would have an advantage over a true sadist or a Dark Tetrad. The sadist is motivated to keep causing pain and will want to keep increasing the cruelty past that limit. The Dark Triad traits of Machiavellianism and psychopathy allow one to act sadistically as long as it is having a positive effect and then stop just as easily when it isn’t helping. Sadism is just one more tool one can use for manipulation.

    But like I said, the above is assuming that is a limit to sadism being effective for game. I’ve never found one.

  26. Proud Sadist says:

    I find it weird that so many people here think they know all about sadists but don’t seem to have a clue about BDSM or the kink community, even with our higher profile after 50 Shades got famous.

    The services of a sadist who knows how to inflict pain and humiliation safely and skillfully are always in high demand among all genders and orientations. There are huge numbers of women with masochistic fantasies (although it’s definitely not all – this is an actual case of Not All Women Are Like That) and giving off a sadistic vibe will capture their interest easily.

    Also, sadist and psychopath are definitely not synonymous. A sadist is just someone who enjoys inflicting pain; psychopathy is a psychological disorder characterized by several different specific qualities (none of which are ‘enjoys inflicting pain’).

    • gunslingergregi says:

      it is surprisingly vanilla here tis true

    • Scray says:

      K but u have to realize that most of the BDSM chicks SEEM TO BE fat uggos. I’M JUST SAYING.

    • Wilson says:

      Psychopaths don’t enjoy inflicting pain? Seems like you have some sort of cognitive dissonance, because you really can’t be much of a sadist without threatening the subject’s life

  27. Scray says:

    I’d throw out almost all of this ‘be an asshole cad’ stuff and reduce down to two variables — X: how many people (in whatever social setting) react to your actions, and Y: the extent of their reaction.

    X*Y = amperes/meter of your pussy magnet.

    That’s the scrayquation.

  28. Jay in DC says:

    I’m in agreement with -some- of the thoughts above vis-a-vis sadist vs. psychopath. But even using the word psychopath to talk about the post is a misnomer. Sociopath is more appropriate. Either way you slice it true sadist or true sociopath this is something that must be walked on a razor thin edge for all the reasons stated above.

    Women like men that other men fear, this is not news or rocket science. However, as the delicate little easily breakable snowflakes they are, their own well being possibly in jeopardy will send them running for the hills.

    But some of the replies are just delusional like the one about successful men not having any amount of this in them or this gem: Aggression in any kind of man is a major turn-off for a long-term relationship.

    Says some chick who wants the guy to bend to her every need and emotional cue whilst secretly longing for someone who still has his testicles at least, laying around in a jar somewhere perhaps. Get real…

    Most highly driven successful men display some sociopathic tendency because being a captain of industry requires nothing less. Morality has always been a slippery slope in the business world. Fuck too many people over, and yes you move into the “outcast” territory described above by multiple commenters. But, skillfully applied sociopathic tendency is how to build empire. The simplest definition of the sociopath is a person who simply has no emotion whereas a “normal” person would respond appropriately to a given situation. This also makes them highly less risk aversive than your average person. Again, absolute requirement for empire building.

    If I need to layoff the entire accounting department. I know that 50 people are out of work, their families will have no income. Can I be up nights about this? No. You do it and sleep like a baby that night.

    The same can be said for sadism. The guy talking about BDSM. That is NOT sadism. That is a bunch of beta assholes dressing up and playing pretend. In TRUE sadism there is no fucking “safe word”. You do what you do because you want to. You can like it, or like it a lot. Decide.

    But once again, just shadows of this is important. Running around strangling baby kittens never got anyone any additional ass that I’m aware of. But, if you were to say, end up getting in a scrap and decided to “go that extra mile” on a guy that is already down. If this is witnessed by your woman it tells her that she needn’t ever have fear of her physically safety from outside when you are around, but… would he ever display such unbridled rage on me? I wonder…

    And lastly– I don’t know if there is really sadist / sociopath “game” per se. My experience is most dudes are just built out that way or they are not. If you are, then you already know that just like anything else you don’t tilt those cards up front and definitely not all at once. You drip it out to the point where she is not on edge all the time, but certainly knows that the result of a “text message breakup” with you is not anything she’d like to gamble on. Because she remembers what happened to that one guy…

  29. Anonymous says:

    If you want to have some fun; mess with women’s hamster and see how far you can push it; create a fake online dating profile along with fake photos of some male model, pass yourself off as having a well paying, “glamorous” job and see how far and fast you can get the hamster to spin.

    • walawala says:

      why do that when you can actually go out and meet women and bang them? This kind of thing isn’t game…it’s being a loser who just gets thrills from playing tricks and deceiving women. That isn’t the true nature of game or the spirit of this post.

  30. gunslingergregi says:

    nigs won
    like 5000 nigs who don’t care vs 3 white dudes
    give em credit where its due
    although I would have the power to make her not be on street so there is that I suppose husband don’t

    • gunslingergregi says:

      fuck Iraq and Syria we need to wage war here at home

      • gunslingergregi says:

        I was willing to give my life for this country in iraq i’m real close to being willing to go out hard in this motherfuker someone got to fucking represent
        prob is we got shit to lose they don’t but why the fuck was I willing to die in Iraq
        time to go back to old me I guess toss on the blue and red

      • Mr.C says:

        Good luck with that.
        The Elite will continue to invent new wars for the young “patriots” to go and fight. On the bright side, you will help the good olde US of A secure enough oil to keep things rolling along a little longer and help secure what is good for the future of Israel.

  31. “Every woman adores a Fascist,
    The boot in the face, the brute
    Brute heart of a brute like you.”

    – Sylvia Plath

  32. wolfie65 says:

    Dunno ’bout actual sadism, but I have noticed that women do seem to be allergic to guys who are good with kids and animals, which is, naturally, the exact opposite of what they always claim.

  33. captain shadow says:

    So true. I ash in girl’s hair when i’m getting a blowie if I feel like it. This one girl I held in particular disregard so fuck it. I just stubbed my roach out on her arm. Instead of complaining she just moaned and sword swallowed. I had to try this out more as she could have been an anomaly. EVERY girl I this to, even the big ego fem hoes never complain they just gag harder. They love a sadist.

  34. walawala says:

    Good post. This is why not reacting to a woman’s hysterics is seen as “cruel”.

    It becomes clear to me that posts like this re-affirm the counter-intuitive nature of male/female sexual relationships.

    In a work situation you should give a 360 review and constant feedback. This helps employees grow and advance their careers.

    Doing that with a girl: “I don’t like when you do xxxx can you please try to avoid that”–only makes her want to do xxxx even more.

    They file that shit away to get under your skin.

    So while deliberate cruelty is socially unacceptable, the idea that a guy covertly punishes a girl with a soft-next, or flirting with other girls, or canceling dates or whatever suddenly triggers a woman’s attraction.

    I need to read and re-read this idea to re-enforce that a logical argument will only backfire on a girl you’re having problems with.

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