So Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the older Muslim Boston bomber brother, had a loving white American wife of WASPy lineage who donned his approved Islamic head coverage and bore him his hell-spawnage. Some have asked, where was Katherine Russell’s father during her descent into badboy servitude? If the photo of the dad after news of Tamerlan’s death is any indication, the guy is giddy that his son-in-law is no longer for this world.
Arranged marriages don’t sound like much fun, but one problem with moving as a culture toward exclusively love-based marriage is that it neuters the ability of parents to exert any control over their daughters’ instinctual romantic compulsions. The ancients knew that women’s libidos were dangerous when left unchecked. But a culture that prizes doe-eyed love as the be-all and end-all of legitimate marriage must come to terms with the fact that many women love the wrong kinds of men. It’s in their genes.
When lust-fueled love as a basis for forming putative lifelong marital unions crowds out all other considerations, the influence that parents wield over their daughters’ mate choices gets winnowed as well. After all, who is a parent to say what his or her daughter feels? Love knows no reason. And so what you get is fathers like the one above, powerless to stop his daughter’s stupid decisions, and overjoyed when fate steps in to excise the cancer from his family that he wished he could excise himself, but never had the guts nor the informal societal support to do so.
Love makes betas of men, in more ways than one, and it would be wise to remember that some of those men are fathers whose authority has been gutted by the awesome power of love.
Lessee, navy dad whose daughter rebelled by going super-swarthy. At least he seems to be enjoying many beers and plates of pasta. I, too, am amused by the big ass grin on his face.
He doesnt look swarthy…..looks totally white afterall hes from the caucaus
That’s as stupid as calling Mongols “American Indians” since they now live in the area the Indians moved through thousands of years ago on their way to the Americas. Tamerlan “Semitic Mystery-Meat” Tsarnaev is in no way or form European “White”.
I’m not sure, but I don’t think Chechens are Semitic. I think they are Turkic.
In any event pon has a point, there was nothing “super swarthy” about Tammy. His skin tone looks to be solidly White.
No, Chechens are straight out of the ancient fertile crescent; but Turkic or Semitic is irrelevant to the larger point that neither group is “White” in the common sense and historical meaning of the word. Redefining the word “White” to mean anyone with pale skin instead of racially European makes the word meaningless and is simply a part of the great cultural Marxist campaign against Western tradition.
Also note that the Supreme Court ruled in 1923 that Caucasians aren’t White. U.S. v. Bhagat Singh Thind (1923): “The court conceded that Indians were “Caucasians” and that anthropologists considered them to be of the same race as white Americans, but argued that “the average man knows perfectly well that there are unmistakable and profound differences.””
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5076/
Didn’t know that.
I agree with you Sieg. White doesn’t equate to European. I was taking issue with the notion that dark hair and eyes (even with white skin) somehow don’t equate to European or can be correctly described as super swarthy.
but argued that “the average man knows perfectly well that there are unmistakable and profound differences.””
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See how even the supreme court of the United States would not go on record with a legal definition of “white person?”
They wiped that booger on the sleave of: “the average man”.
(((shakin my head)))
Only Adolph Hitler had the balls to try to put an end to such nonsense.
This is why before I ask a person for their definition of “white person”; I always first ask them if they are a white person. If they say yes, they forfeit their right to plead ignorance or no contest regarding a definition.
many turks are white, I am a turk and my father was a ginger with freckles
white is anyone racially european and the causcaus region is european and that includes armenians and chechnians…but not azerbaijiani and turks since they are turkic people though they have some european blood(central asain)
but for some reason the WASPS on here keep thinkin anythin muzzy is non white like with albanians or dark italians
google europe the caucaus is inlcluded
if islam is alien to white culture then so is christianty is from middle east too
pagan wicca is white
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Europe
these are european people look at map
1. Lol, neither. the chechens are as cacausian as you can get, the people of that whole mountain region are the original people of their respective area and that includes gorgians, dagestani, iranian tribes, armenians, south slavs, inguesh peoples, chechens etc etc. They are as old as time.
2nd. there’s very few true turkic people in existence, even modern turkey is as turkic as moghul (mongol) india was full of mongolians. IOW modern turks in turkey are anatolian mutt who are called turks, less than 6% of their lineage comes from chinky eyed turks.
as said, my father was a redhead/auburn and I have slightly chinky eyes. white/mongol mixture?
Chechens are “Northeast Caucasian”, along with the Ingush and some groups in Dagestan. Not related to or to be confused with “Northwest Caucasians” (Circassians), or to “South Caucasians” (Georgians). All three groups are isolated from all other language groups, like the Basques on steroids. NE Caucasians are Muslims, as are a lot of NW Caucasians, while S Caucasians are Orthodox Christian.
In addition, the Caucasus has native Orthodox Christian Indo-European groups (Armenians, Ossetians) and Muslim Turkics (Azerbaijanis, among others).
It’s a really confusing hodgepodge in that small area.
true, it’s a part of the world that has been on the frontline of history for millenias and situated historically in the most active zone. For outsiders and those who have no clue about history, it’s hard to comprehend anything beyond the terms and labels even if that.
For example, the muslim turks are not actual chinky eyed turks, they are cultural-linguistic turks due to elite dominance like say aryan india. Most of teh cacausus are closer to each other genetically and they all go way back.
turkic people are those from turkey through central asia(kazak uzbek etc) and xianjing china
aryans are kurds persians through northern india
semitics are arabs and jews from the gulf
berbars are north africans(mixed with european african an arab now)
there have been varying defintitons of white prolly cuz of hitler somehow relatin aryans to nordics
but from europe to north india…these people are caucasion
but to define white european thats anyone from europe …which includes the caucus of georgia azerbaijian armenia dagestan n chechnya
(turks are not european but influenced it but how ever have euro blood thanx to greeks romans celts viking and ottoman take raids)
@Ovid
dont call caucasions(people form the caucaus..aremenian azeri geargian chechnians an dagestani) turks……they serouisly dont like em
1. During the time you guys were debating whether the guy is “white”, at least 100 sixteen year old white chicks in American got poked by negroids from the high school “basketball team”.
2. It’s just as silly as guys complaining about white women not “doing their duty” and birthing 5 white kids. If you really feel that way, grab the nearest Aryan woman and knock her up. If a swarthy bomber could do it, maybe you can too.
3. What if dad converted to Islam? He could’ve put her in an arranged marriage. Better yet, he should have sent her to an Ivy instead to UMass. Ivy being code word for “school where my daughter can might the right type of white.”
WTF? Dude looks straight up Turk, at least.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia
hes european according to this…
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/emma-johnson/ingle-moms-and-other-stro_b_3117711.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
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Let’s just say in many of our less-than-trustworthy print media outlets, the Photoshop button was firmly engaged.
That boy WAS white before being bumped off. However, when you become Muslim you lose your whiteness.
By the way, both murderers were on welfare. Real “alphas.”
Bob Wallace
when you become Muslim you lose your whiteness.
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Do all white people know this? If not, how do they find out about it?
Also, what other ways if any, can a white person lose their whiteness?
Also, what other ways if any, can a white person lose their whiteness?
—For a woman, sleep/make out with a nigger. Bam, you’re as close to subhuman as you can get without a gene splicing.
For a man, nothing. Thankfully, the Giant White Penis that Civilized the World inoculates us from most of the effects of niggerization you monkeys try.
If you can’t figure it our on your own I’m not going to enlighten you. It’s actually pretty simple.
Nope. Caucasian, not White. Or do you call a Chinese guy Native American?
http://imgur.com/XXT4i.jpg
Incidentally, the people at http://www.loonwatch.com looovvve that kind of talk. It proves that hatred of Islam can still be racist, despite Islam not being a race.
There was that episode of sleepercell(?) where the very fashionable young black man trying to infiltrate said sleeper cell was told that the ay-rab muslims looked down on the subsaharans as well. So…that plays in…right?
I think I was thinking of an episode of 24 but whatever where tango is marrying a nice sweetass blondie. Anyway. Dad looks like he has a reclining shitter while watching tv off of the hoppa. That guy in the pictures with the sunglasses and superfly scarf is probably white-ish, but there’s something very persian about him. But I am duly chastened. Chechen, Caucasian, not white, I am sure dad was happy to see him whacked.
Didn’t sweetass blondie turn out to be the terrorist?
fuck! spoiler alert, hello. I only watched the first 20 minutes of that season. How very lifetime TV of 24 to teach us all a very special lesson, that not all gooks are bad guys.
Being “Alpha” has nothing to do with financial status. It helps but is not required. It’s about appeal to women. Many criminals know how to get women to fuck them, many computer programmers do not.
What could be more alpha than scamming your way into a country as a persecuted minority while still travelling back to said persecution territory on a regular basis; scamming a dewy-eyed doe of the infidel’s culture into converting to your misogynistic creed, marrying you and bearing your germ plasm; getting arrested for slapping said doe around when she pissed you off and not getting tossed out of the country, and finally, getting the infidels to pay for the whole thing?
Even though he’s only been “retired” for six days, not the requisite five years, he’s in the Alpha Hall of Fame.
And George Zimmerman was a Mestizo Hispanic before falling being attacked by Trayvon Martin.
Barack Obama is black or half white depending on which makes conservatives look bad.
Race is merely a cultural construction.
http://www.freefictionbooks.org/books/i/1045-in-defense-of-women-by-h-l-mencken?start=31
“The objections to polygamy do not come from women”
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objections to lying
objections to stealingz
objections to buttcockingz
objections to goingbutt naked
objections to eating da seprepenet applee
objections to alpha fufcks and beta bucksz
objections to iodlatry
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From my adventures in slaying under 21 ass, I’ve met many a beta father. You’d think they’d be wary of letting me around their daughters, but instead they just mostly seem intimidated by me. Pathetic.
Lol, sitcoms always used to have themes where nice guys who were dating pretty girls would have to meet their tough, hardass dads. Funny irony is that most middle-class to upper-middle babyboomer dads are as soft as the average hipster these days.
I always found that trope funny too. Especially since they those hard ass fathers would probably embrace those little nice guys as they would know all too well what kind of dark road their little princess could have gone down.
yup
This ^.
Even an Orangutan like Chris Rock knows that a man’s [-er- an Orangutan’s] first and foremost duty in life is to keep his daughter off the pole.
Jesus. H. Christ.
The only thing Daddy controls is the remote control on his La-Z-Boy.
I’ve known Hindus in arranged marriages. They actually work out surprisingly well, in many cases. Your parents love you, presumably, and want what’s best for you, usually. Plus, you become more like your patents as you age, and so they often know you better than you know yourself at a young age.
The ancients were often much wiser than we tend to give them credit for.
There’s research backing this up too: http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=arranged-marriages-can-be-real-love-10-03-11
“…arranged marriages can surpass love matches for long-term contentment.”
Italians have an old saying about this:
“The love will come.”
“women’s libidos… dangerous when left unchecked… doe-eyed love as the be-all and end-all…”
It becomes possible for a Shaw to say “that unless Woman repudiates her womanliness, her duty to her husband, to her children, to society, to the law, and to everyone but herself, she cannot emancipate herself”. The primary woman, the peasant woman, is mother. The whole vocation towards which she has yearned from childhood is included in that one word. But now emerges the Ibsen woman, the comrade, the heroine of a whole megalopolitan literature from Northern drama to Parisian novel. Instead of children, she has soul-conflicts; marriage is a craft-art for the achievement of “mutual understanding.” It is all the same whether the case against children is the American lady’s who would not miss a season for anything, or the Parisienne’s who fears that her lover would leave her, or an Ibsen heroine’s who “belongs to herself” – they all belong to themselves and they are all unfruitful…
– OSWALD SPENGLER, 1918
On another recent thread, I was thinking about how you would get through to a chick like “feministx”: What would be the modern-day equivalent of “spending a summer working manual labor on an Amish farm in Pennsylvania or Ohio” [say, circa 1850 to 1875] that would amount to a physical, experiential set of events which would have the effect of metaphorically slapping some sense into her.
To somehow pull her out of the hypnotic trance which the endless, purposeless fornication traps her in, and to bring her back into some semblance of an interactive relationship with the real world.
And then it dawned on me: BDSM.
And the more I thought about it, the more it seemed like that was probably the sort of thing that a Charles Manson was doing to his woman [Helter-Skelter], that a Jim Jones was doing to his women [Guyana], that a David Koresh was doing to his women [Waco], etc etc etc.
And, sure enough, it was what Tsarnaev’s radical Boston mosque was instructing its young men in: how to beat their wives.
And we know that Tsarnaev had a 2009 domestic violence complaint for beating the crap out of his previous girlfriend.
These days, I am often left thinking that we human beings were intended to live physical lives, and that most peoples’ minds simply cannot handle the incessant abstractions of modernity and the nearly complete disconnection from living a physical life in the physical world which a life spent immersed in the cubicle cloud forces upon them.
In fact, I’m working on a theory which holds that the 50-Shades-of-Gray fascination which many modern women have with BDSM arises precisely because BDSM simulates the physical pain and subsequent physical euphoria [endorphin rush] of the childbirths which modern women no longer experience.
“To somehow pull her out of the hypnotic trance which the endless, purposeless fornication traps her in,”
Man, don’t taunt me. I wish I were entrapped by this endless purposeless fornication that was so divine that it sent me into an unending hypnotic trance.
Where is my cock carousel? Since I am without a child anyway, I’m getting gypped. (I know. It’s my own fault).
“In fact, I’m working on a theory which holds that the 50-Shades-of-Gray fascination which many modern women have with BDSM arises precisely because BDSM simulates the physical pain and subsequent physical euphoria”
Zombs, I like ya, but I think that theory is terrible on all levels.
50 shades of grey is about BDSM? You may be a little gay just for knowing that.
Women were not created to sit at a desk and stare at Excel spreadsheets, Lotus Notes reminders, and Exchange Server calendars for their entire lives.
Their biochemistry just isn’t made for dealing with that kind of abstraction.
Women were created to turn to wheat into dough, to knead the dough into breadforms, and to coax the yeast in the breadforms into rising.
Women were created to chase a hen around the chicken coop, to break its neck, to gut it and to pluck it, and to cook it for dinner.
Women were created to till the soil, to pull the weeds, and to water the herbs in the kitchen garden.
And, above all else, women were created to experience the most supreme pain followed by the most supreme ecstasy during birth and during afterbirth.
Now if you sit a woman down in front of a computer screen, and if she stays there, glued to the screen, for fifteen or twenty years, without giving birth to any children of her own, then her biochemistry and her metabolism are going to freak out and turn her into a raging lunatic.
Ergo her need for something like BDSM [or a Muslim husband who beats the living daylights out of her] which will yank her back into the world of physical reality, and which will satisfy her desperate need to experience physical pain and physical pleasure.
Conversely, if you could build a time machine, and go back to Salem Witchcraft Massachusetts, and show the ladies of that era some hardcore 21st Century BDSM pr0n, then I bet that they wouldn’t find it to be satanically evil so much as they would find it to be simply ludicrous and idiotic.
In fact, I bet that if you could get Michelle Duggar to watch a BDSM porno with you, and ask her afterwards what she thought of it, then she’d say something like, “Honey, bless your little heart, but I’ve given birth to 19 children, and I have absolutely no need or desire in my life for anything so fatuous as that.”
I couldn’t agree more. However, the establishment doesn’t want women to follow the laws of nature. If I could find a man who could afford to take care of me and our family on his income, I’d quit my career at the drop of a hat and become a stay at home mom.
But really, who can afford that?
Sadly enough, I love vegetable gardening, cooking and baking but those are only hobbies for me, cause I have to work my ass off for health insurance and to pay the bills. This twisted, corrupt system simply doesn’t allow me to live like that even if I’m married. Only the filthy rich and the Amish can afford that lifestyle. Btw, did anyone notice the rich upper class men don’t put their women to work? Millionaire and billionaire wives do only light charity ‘work’. IMHO men aren’t designed to sit in front of a computer and state at excel sheets all day either, men are designed to hunt, butcher the game, hew the firewood and whatnot. The urban lifestyle is not only against the nature of women, but against the human nature period.
You won’t need medical insurances if you live healthy.
Lol, the drunk driver / congenital disorder / criminal that hit you does not care how healthy you are.
You need to find a rich guy, Miriel.
Camille Paglia has said whenever sexual freedom is sought, it ends up in BDSM.
Just to clarify, the moral of the point is that it is stupid for feminists to want to seek total sexual freedom because you end up in a bad place.
Where did she say that? I like Camille.
It was in Sexual Personae. She was actually talking about the Marquis de Sade and how he was making this point with his books as a rebuttal to enlightenment ideas of free love.
Fuck having children.
Frankfurt School nihilism and shit.
Material considerations (food, shelter etc.) also used to provide some constraints on mate choice. Now no longer.
Arranged marriages don’t sound like much fun
In sane cultures (i.e. most of them) the children got a veto, so it wasn’t as bad as it sounds. Besides, for most people, the person they got through an arranged marriage wasn’t any worse than they could do on the open market.
How about just keeping Muzzies and other undesirables out of the country?
Easy peasy.
What about trying to fix your country? Your land is rotting anyways after spreading its filth worldwide.
I am trying to fix my country.
You are both talking about the same thing.
Muslims tend to get disproportionate attention because they like to go out with a bang but the things that are wrong with America are deeply entrenched in its white ruling class. When the nobility becomes corrupt the idiot masses follow and then it’s game over. If you want to fix your country I recommend you start by abolishing democracy.
one pair of mudslimes set up a bomb
lets punish all the others for it durr hurr
If Americans had any balls and leaders with balls, we would have nuked those heritic goat fuckers back to the stone age.
But we don’t got that anymore. Instead, we got old dykes and washed up millionaires flying around the globe pressing fake reset buttons.
@hurrdi: How is it “punishment” to keep Muslims out of the US, i.e., to allow them to continue residing in their own countries? Surely you’re not implying that the Islamic countries are such hell-holes that it’s a punishment to have to live in them?
Nations have a right to control their own borders for the good of their citizens. Importing millions of culturally alien and hostile Muslims on the basis that “only” 30% of them (as measured in polls) want to kill us is suicidal.
Use the lefts logic against them. When they say that the US is an imperialist/colonizing aggressor, that is intolerant of gays, blacks, is filled to the brim with racists…..
Then why bring others to a country full of people that hate them? Immigration under that belief is immoral.
AND, they may have been set up to do it?
Fo example, why did the one guy where a white hat (that stood out like a beacon in the crowd?)
They waited 48 hours until they were identified, THEN they went out and robbed a 711.
They had a bunch of bombs, but only one hand gun between the two of them?
WTF?
Shh, don’t mind facts.
If it was a setup, they would have been white Christian tea party members.
They use guns on those false flags. Not bombs.
Woman have veto according to sharia.
No consent = no marriage.
Even if the lack of consent was to be found out after the ceremony, the marriage is annulled.
What’s sad is this lazy puff boy of a father-in-law could have set Tamarlan straight if he had any alpha in him.
That’s unfair. If he played hardball, she would have just eloped with Tamerlan. He could have killed him, but is it really worth spending life in jail for murdering your daughter’s asshole boyfriend? Remember the Sopranos? Even Tony didn’t have any control over Meadow’s mating choices.
If it was a real Mafioso, he would have. TV is not reality. Real Mafiosos don’t visit a shrink either.
You know what else arranged marriages can do? Bind a man to a bitch he has little power to leave. Bind an alpha to a fattie. I see it done all the time.
no. no you don’t.
feministx
Yes, this is true. However, in nearly all of these societies which have arranged marriages, the husband reserves the right to inflict corporal punishment on his wife. So the beta could beat his wife for acting like a bitch, and the Alpha could threaten fattie wife with violence if she does not lose weight by eating less and exercising.
I personally wouldn’t want to hurt anyone physically, but I would like the opportunity as a man to divorce any woman I want for any frivolous reason in no fault divorce plus keep the home and children forcing her out the door to support me and the children through alimony, child support etc. plus get the state to lock her up if she annoys me in any way.
“However, in nearly all of these societies which have arranged marriages, the husband reserves the right to inflict corporal punishment on his wife. ”
In India, that’s more a theoretical right since violence is not accepted. I would think that husbands rarely threaten their wives with violence.
You may notice that we Indian gals are just about the best at fattening up over marriage, so that threat of violence thing isn’t doing our men much good. American broads are already fat by the time they get married. But Indian girls start out so thin and end up so fat.
As India’s society becomes more modern and Westernized, violence is less and less allowed while people are better fed and don’t work off the calories in hard manual jobs as much. Most married men in Asia choose prostitutes or if they can then get them mistresses instead for fun sport sex and choose wives for procreation sex. The reason for this is that the typical prostitute or mistress is younger, tighter and better looking, A man may not care what his wife looks like as he wants less men who want to fuck her as well as he wants her to raise his children without bad incidents such as adultery. It’s easier to let her become ugly than to GAME her for most men. Most married men worldwide also learn to look at their wives as though she were young and beautiful which is a neat hallucination to have in order to bang physically ugly women.
“I personally wouldn’t want to hurt anyone physically, but I would like the opportunity as a man to divorce any woman I want for any frivolous reason in no fault divorce plus keep the home and children forcing her out the door to support me and the children through alimony, child support etc. plus get the state to lock her up if she annoys me in any way.”
That sounds awesome. Were do i sign up?
For real, that’s even better that being able to hit a bitch.
Yep! Yup! Yah! Yes!!!
Same case with my buddy. Think hes forced into marryin a fat plain lookin 5 from india. An he has a decent mug big ripped arms chest shoulders n abs…..hes a wet dream cum true for her
he can easily get better at the clubs
The Injun (dot) guy who runs the Subway in me town is a good looking guy married to a short fat DOG. He resents her,I believe,they dont seem so happy. So…arranged marriage isnt perfect;and what are American dudes doing talking about AM?? NOTE:The Indian guys sister i think has the wet panties for moi! May hit that she is no great beauty,but she is young.lite brown skin,pretty and did I say young? I once had a married Indian young woman hitting on me. Being beta I didnt realize what was happening(Gee that girl is nice! )until one day I was pissing,her husband comes into the baffroom. I zip up the Anoconda,and turn to the mirror to wash me hands when I catch a glimpse of this guy staring DAGGERS at my back! Oh…I thought. They left the company soon after. I wish i had tried something with her,I really do… nomesayne??
1. Yes he can get married to a fattie, and most upper class indians are infact somewhere between beta-omega, but traditionally the husband has the upper hand since he is the head of the household and can send his wife to the treadmill.
2. In traditional societies, you would always find the geisha types who would service the husbands in case he needs to blow off some steam.
3. Even wilder still,Wife kidnapping is the traditional method of marrying in central asia, the caucasus region and hilly peoples from all over the world and is wildly succesfull, as can be seen by the cohesive and cogent but tiny group of people like the chechens.
I hate this photo. This father looks like the ultimate goofball, and not in a good way. I posted in an earlier blog entry about this guy. He may be happy that his “son-in-law” no longer walks the Earth, but I’ve got to question whether a father is simply “powerless” in the face of some Alpha psychopath thug who wants to marry his daughter.
It’s understandable that family can’t do much with an adult woman who wants to marry some jackass who will change her religion, put her in a burkha, smack her around from time to time, and make her his subservient little wife. But, the father could have done a lot more when she was growing up to keep her from even considering someone like that as husband material.
First, be a strong, involved father in your daughter’s life. That way, she won’t be looking for that strength somewhere else. Second, give her a strong religion and don’t raise her in a household where there are no traditions, and no consequences for making bad choices. Third, if your daughter’s boyfriend or husband DOES decide to smack her around for fun, then it’s time for you, and possibly her brother, or other male relatives to get involved.
As I said in my earlier post, I think this father believed that as long as he was bringing home a doctor’s paycheck, his work was done. Idiot was probably more concerned about what color his new BMW was going to be, rather than with whom his daughter was dating and the choices she was making If that were my daughter, I wouldn’t be smiling…I’d be looking away from the camera and hanging my head in shame.
“It’s understandable that family can’t do much with an adult woman who wants to marry some jackass who will change her religion, put her in a burkha, smack her around from time to time, and make her his subservient little wife. But, the father could have done a lot more when she was growing up to keep her from even considering someone like that as husband material.”
Well the thing is with daughters, the more you try to keep them from doing something, the more they are going to want to do it, especially in their rebellious years. The classic preacher’s daughter syndrome, or the klansman’s daughter with the black guy.
The idea of marriage was never for “love” in the first place. It has a lot more to do with increase social status and material gain than love and happiness.
Disney movies has brainwashed everyone. Don’t even get me started on the rarity of diamonds. HAH!
“But son, she’s got HUUUUUGE… tracts of land!”
This.
It’s a big part of why the gay marriage argument is so fuckin’ stupid.
Parents can protect daughters, but it would start by homeschooling and removing most media so they didn’t get indoctrinated with feminism. It might not be 100% but would give the women a fighting chance.
Especially the television.
The electronic Rabbi.
More like the Catholic priest molesting them
Beta herb. Shows once again that even being very successful economically and educationally doesn’t erase the stain of beta.
You should do one on the Baltimore female prison guards that started working for the inmates. One may be an ex-gf of mine.
Yup. And Jezebel is doing some hilarious mental gymnastics trying to put a feminist spin on the story as we speak:
http://jezebel.com/13-female-correction-officers-accused-of-handing-comple-479742429
Cant belive this is still on the news. World stoppin for 3 people but 132 people in bangladesh died in a factory fire…n no report on that
Did any white person or at least a Jew die there also?
If not, sorry, but that is no news. No even Indian and Pakistani presses would give this much attention. I would bet that Indian and Pakistanis would be much more interested in Amanda Knox.
To be fair to women, men often make stupid marital decisions too. Nice ass? Give her a ring…
look at this. Feminists are upset that no one wants to look at old women on screen: http://www.vulture.com/2013/04/leading-men-age-but-their-love-interests-dont.html
I ain’t forkin’ over 12 bucks to see some broad with jowls and a prune for a face, and neither should you.
Meh, the “charts” cherry pick data points. Weak. Also they fail to mention that many of these actors MARRIED younger women. As a man who married a woman a decade younger than my age, Viva la difference!
From what I gather there is a misunderstanding of “arranged marriage.” It’s not that so much that the parents choose, but rather the parents have the power of veto. Likewise, it’s very easy to imagine a system where the man is approved by the father and the daughter can veto. It’s just a system of checks and balances. If someone vetoes than you try again with a new candidate. People misconstrue it in terms of all or nothing. It’s the happy medium between a free-for-all and the man or bride having no say in the matter whatsoever. Knock down that straw man.
Many moons ago, this girl intro’d me to her pops:
Pops: So what do you do?
Me(in my head): For now, I’m doing ya daughter.
Off topic but I’ve seen no mention on the Manosphere of this… might be worth a post of its own:
http://gawker.com/5994974/the-most-deranged-sorority-girl-email-you-will-ever-read
Too incoherent.
how is Islam gaining so much momentum in the face of feminism?
Islam utterly ignores and repudiates feminism. It’s just like laughing at a cute feminist (that rare unicorn) and gaming her in full asshole-mode, then pounding her like a fucktoy later that night: total submission achieved.
Shit tests come in different sizes.
The same way PUAs are.
Whatever Queen Hamster says about what she wants, she wants a man who leads her.
Most Western chumps are weak and believe in nothing. Muslims may sometimes be losers on welfare, but they don’t doubt themselves in the slightest.
In Malmo and other highly Islamified parts of Europe, western women get hassled when they show their hair in public. So some western women cover their heads even if they never convert to Islam just to be left alone.
So she’s already doing what the Muslims want her to do. It’s not a much bigger step to find one of her oppressors to be her protector and go the whole nine yards (of cloth).
If it’s a Tunisian versus a Frog in Paris, the Frog backs down every time. Betas don’t get to reproduce.
Hopefully, the expanding Generation Identitaire movement means that the frogs are rebuilding their backbones, and will soon put the run on the muslim interlopers.
Because feminism doesn’t give a shit about Islam.
How many words do they expend over women’s rights abuses or legislated discrimination in Muslim countries compared to say, a white guy who makes a sexist joke at home? Some are afraid to because they don’t want to be called racist, others don’t want to because their main target is rebelling against their own men. If they do say anything about it, it’s just a token gesture to show that they’re not complete hypocrites.
See, feminism is 10% gender equality, 90% rebelling against daddy.
Islam is not the authority at home, so they don’t rebel against it. In fact, they use Islam’s foreigness to attack the domestic establishment, under the guise of fighting racism, etc.
If there is ever an article solely about misogyny somewhere, you can always count on a white feminist to show up and pull a “My country is just as bad!” false equivalency, even when it’s not even close.
Why would anyone rational do this? They wouldn’t. Feminists do this because their actions are fueled by resentment. That’s why nobody should ever believe them when they trot out the boilerplate defense that feminism is just about equality between men and women.
Is it really that bad in Sweden? Damn! Even in some muslim countries women can walk around without a headscarf. Even in Iran they don’t completely cover their head. I have female friends living in muslim countries who in dress modern clothes and have no problem. It seems the leftoid politicians of Scandinavia are importing the bottom of the barrel sort of muslims.
No It is not that bad in Sweden. This guy needs make out the situation to be worse, so that he can justify feeling sorry for himself.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/7278532/Jews-leave-Swedish-city-after-sharp-rise-in-anti-Semitic-hate-crimes.html
It looks pretty bad to me. The article’s title can be misleading so before anyone argues without having read it, the anti-semitic hate crimes reported are committed against jews by muslim immigrants, not scandinavian neo-nazis
If it’s a Tunisian versus a Frog in Paris, the Frog backs down every time. Betas don’t get to reproduce.”
I wish you would stop spouting drivel. The intermarriage rate between Maghrebines(Tunian,Morrocan,Algerian) women and French men is much higher than vice versa .The wife usually ends with the husbands religion ie non commital.
Apostasy is from Islam /conversion to christianity is a serious issue in Muslim France. The French riots in 2005 started in response to a rumor than some Muslim girlsconverted to Christianity. The rumor supposedly has some basis in fact.
French may have pushovers in WWs but they are no pushover when it comes to defending their culture. Generation Identitaire is unimaginable in Anglo America or Sweden as is the ban on hijab.
French happily invaded a couple of Muslim countries over the past 2 years LIbya and Malis. Muslim didnt complain about shit.
The French Muslims maybe hostile but know their limits, the entire reason for them being hostile is that they are treated like crap and yet there are only riotings but no terrorism …why?
oh as a bonus- google beurette – French porn overwhelmingly consists of Arab women and French men….not vice versa.
Finally, a voice of reason.
The French defend their (white) culture to ridiculous lengths. H and the commenters here often go overboard in their race-war imaginings and conveniently ignore facts that don’t suit this viewpoint.
Thanks for the reality.
Easy, islam doesn’t give two shits about feminism. Why should anyone be brought down by childish tantrums? and if you pay any attention to them then that goes to show that you are infact the weak party and you deserve getting screwed.
What’s more interesting is even on ” Dark Enlightment ” corner of the internet instead of trying to mimic what islam does best and the reason why the seem to persevere, everyone just goes on and start bitching about those moooslims like little french girls.
What’s more interesting is even on ” Dark Enlightment ” corner of the internet instead of trying to mimic what islam does best and the reason why the seem to persevere, everyone just goes on and start bitching about those moooslims like little french girls.
Because they’re betas.
The founder of Islam was the epitome of alpha. He had 12 wives and countless concubines. Islam praises alpha behavior and discourages betatude. One should ignore the barbaric elements of it and analyze the alpha attitude, I think the western men can learn a good deal from Islam. Believe it or not, they respect women, but the right kind of women. Obedient wives and mothers are highly praised and the feminist bitch types are cursed.
The islamophobes love to point out that one Muhammads wifes was a Jewish widow named Safiyya, a “loot of war bride”:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safiyya_bint_Huyayy
Safiyya was 17 years old when she married Muhammad. Her previous husband had been just killed in a war against Muhammad.
Muhammads wife were in divided in two groups. One group was headed by two Arab wifes (Aisha & Hafsa) who constantly gave muhammad headache. Safiyya was in the “good girl” group.
From her wikipedia article:
After Muhammad’s death, she became involved in the power politics of the early Muslim community, and acquired substantial influence by the time of her death.
“Easy, islam doesn’t give two shits about feminism.”
I love it when i say sexist shit to feminist state workers and see them squirm.
Things like “of course i don’t vacuum clean, i told you i got a wife” or “ever since i told my wife to work out, she is so much more energetic”
It’s so fun!
Because liberals have a hierarchical set of triggers. Certain triggers override others. They are, in general:
Non-Western Foreigners > gays > black people > abortion > women > poor > working class
Feminism is actually a pretty low priority for liberals. Whenever it comes to supporting some foreign barbarian who wants to burn Western civilization to the ground versus stopping a woman from getting raped/mutilated/beaten like an animal/etc, they will ALWAYS side with the barbarian.
Embracing non-Western foreigners is more fundamental to Marxist ideals than feminism.
I can almost hear him mumbling, “I knew all along he was a no good bum blah blah blah.”
As a father of two grown daughters its a constant battle against the feminine imperative. When they make their nonsensical impulse driven comments I laugh and say “are you done”
Not saying fat = not being alpha, but if the man had higher standards for his own physical appearance, don’t you think he’d have higher standards for his daughter?
My guess is he is so beta, his daughter couldn’t help but fall for some psychopath.
Spiting your parents by fucking the Devil is not love.
Off-topic but I predicted here a few weeks ago that Dartmouth, not to be outdone by Oberline, would be the scene of the next hoax meltdown :
Dartmouth College suspends classes after campus activists receive rape threats
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/24/dartmouth_college_suspends_classes_after_campus_activists_receive_rape_threats/
Feminists are the easiest people to troll.
Probably just some trumped up nonsense so feminists can play the victim again. Look at the source, Think Progress is hardly neutral or objective.
What’s in a name? http://asianhistory.about.com/od/profilesofasianleaders/p/TimurProf.htm
Get the daugters to be home every night at 9 pm. Protect them. I know it’s possible even in today’s culture. I saw some dads do it.
***Respect***
Heartiste,
You’ve constantly, openly and proudly proclaimed your position relative to the Zeitgeist of our time on many occasions; yet your readers don’t see the truth in your words. You’ve supported your viewpoint with a rational and evidence based thought system that is undeniable if one but assumes a completely logic based thought system and the scientific premises of our age. I pity the readers that cannot see the absolute brilliance of what you’re really saying.
***Respect***
This article in particular is particularly intelligently constructed. You took the dark, religiously motivated, senseless slaughter of the innocent and transmuted it into an attack on the base emotion that leads countless individuals to sacrifice all rationality and sensability to fits of irrational action that confound friends, family, and the readers on your site. I applaud your efforts in your continuing war against the base emotions which confound and prevent the peoples of the world from uniting against the darkness which is engulfing the world.
Please keep up the good work, your blog posts are most entertaining.
***Respect***
Let’s hear from some Dads who have raised daughters regarding this subject.
I raised two. Believe me, some girls will just do whatever, and the more you criticize, the more they will do it. As this blog site points out repeatedly, logical thinking is not their strong suit. If you can’t reason with them, then what?
By the time you think you need to start to work on her, she has already been screwing him for weeks. Don’t forget, screwing this guy is her way of getting back at you, her father. You know, the guy who has given her life and financial security and an education and love, and who is looking out for her best interests. She has been taught to despise men like you in school and in all mainstream media. Not cool. Stupid. Not doing enough to save the world. Boring. Stifling. Those “others” are always portrayed as cool and happenin’, no matter what dirt bag losers they really are.
When is the last time you saw a realistic portrayal of Indian, African, or Middle Eastern culture and society? How often do they show Africans, for example, taking a sh*t in a plastic bag, which is routine in our President’s fathers’ country. That is what these people do when they aren’t parasitizing boring, oppressive white culture.
I think many fathers just say “Screw it. It is out of my control.” Which it is. Of course, she wouldn’t be moving back into my house. But, perhaps, she never moved out.
Think of that English girl whose black boyfriend murdered her brother when he told him to stop seeing his sister. She loved him more than ever. When you confront such a dark force, be prepared for lethal violence.
No, if women want to go down the dark path, even your own daughter, you can’t stop them in our society. And, they expect society (very likely you, her father), to underwrite their stupid decisions. That is, “to accept” their childish life altering decisions in an attempt to be “cool”.
Just another reason not to give a @#$% about this society. Its collapse will not get a single tear from me.
It is no wonder that couples everywhere, if given a choice, will tend to more often abort daughters than sons.
“When is the last time you saw a realistic portrayal of Indian, African, or Middle Eastern culture and society? … That is what these people do when they aren’t parasitizing boring, oppressive white culture.”
Gramps, I suppose you think that India’s expulsion of the British during the partition of 1947, and the forced British withdrawal from Egypt during the Suez Crisis, and the concomitant British withdrawal from southern and eastern Africa, and the independence movements of Jamaica, and Barbados, and Belize, etc etc etc…
… all of these things reflect “parasites” demanding continued colonial status from white people?
Sorry, gramps, these people wanted *independence from* white people. And if you really are approaching 70, all of them occurred in your lifetime.
I’ll grant you that none of them have developed England’s economy (except India), but the impulse is the same: those people wanted political sovereignty.
Fact are like bacon: they make everything better.
If they wanted independence from white people, why come to haunt us here when they fought so hard for self determination? Many wish we would return.
What about fathers who would choose a “bad boy” type for some reason (he’s from a family the dad is friends with, money, etc.) and then the girl is stuck with that? I sure as hell wouldn’t trust my parents to pick a spouse for me.
But, I would add that they have been married for over twenty years now and neither of them turned out to be a murderer. And no one arranged their marriage, and they married out of love.
Gah. Serious question. If a female family member falls for a muslim badboy and burkas up for him, what do you do?
Send her these pictures.
I’m Catholic so I’d ostracise/banish the treasonous cunt, basically consider her dead and let her know it. But for folks that ain’t religious or are lefties, I can’t see on what grounds they can oppose such things. Hence the destruction of the west.
Ask the wayward daughter, “what does your father look like?”
Well, be alpha about it the way the Muslims are. Kill the guy. Three incidences in the USA of that…. the Muslim guys will go back to an arranged bride from Pakistan.
At first, I was like “that can’t be good”, but then, i wish you still had that spirit in you.
Maybe a few of my fellow Muslims would die that way, but at least, you wouldn’t be pussies who fall for false-flagg terrorism and then go on and kill millions of Iraqis.
they don’t kill the guy. they kill the girl.
Actually, according to sharia, an Islamic marriage contract is not valid unless the girls guardian (father, brother) is accepting it.
A few schools of Islamic jurisprudence allow non-virgin women to decide on their own.
All schools disallow a man or woman who have had extra-marital sex to marry a Muslim person who has not had extramarital sex. (Quran 24:3)
So, if she were to be known as a public person who has had an extra-marital sexual partner, then she is off limits.
On the other hand, we got the doctrine that states that when one reverts to Islam, all previous sins are forgiven.
The whole concept and creation of society is a male thing. Therefore originally the institution of marriage was merely a contract between males on how to regulate access to sex and create a more cohesive, harmonius and united society and this this becoame so successful that the marriage model exists in some form or another almost everywhere on earth and this model got codified into a traditional system. I doubt the ancients came up with marriage becasue of female hypergamy, it was merely to avoid male on male war. The number one killer of men in the pre civlized stage of man was male on male war over pussy, essentially wife kidnapping from your neighboring tribes.
I also doubt that avoiding female preference was the major reason for inventing marriage. It was probably related to property accumulation. Young women are valuable to men, so it followed that some men figured out they could trade their daughters for wealth.
I think Heartiste’s theory is pretty off base, actually:
The problem with this theory is that “the wrong kinds of men” still get married in societies with arranged marriages. In fact, they get married and have children at higher rates because everyone gets married and has children at higher rates. If tamerlan lived 100 years ago, he’d be a violent thug prone to alpha rage. And his parents would have found him a bride. In our love marriage world, katherine russell ended up devoting herself to a terrorist thug. In arranged marriage world, Osama bin laden ended up with 3 or 4 devoted wives. Looks like some women’s fathers did not know best.
“Love makes betas of men, in more ways than one, and it would be wise to remember that some of those men are fathers whose authority has been gutted by the awesome power of love.”
As much as you lament nice white women falling for violent muslim thugs, and as much as you believe that women secretly all fall head over heels for this kind of man, the evidence may not all be on your side.
Katherine Russel left her privileged western upbringing to wear a hijab and marry the worst kind of man, true. But consider, bibi Aisha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibi_Aisha. This is the 12 yr old girl that was sold to a taliban husband. She repeated risked death to run away from her violent muslim husband, the same kind of man tamerlan was. He cut off her nose and left her for dead.
Consider Banaz mahmod: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/22/banaz-mahmod-honour-killing. She was married off to some violent muslim man as a teenager, but left him for some other man. Her father locked her in a room and allowed her husband to rape her before strangling her and dumping her body. For every story you find about some girl running to a man like Tamerlan, you will find another story about some girl dying because she ran away from a Tamerlan.
It’s really a problem for spoiled girls who have too much social distance from nature- i.e. Western girls.
What about regulating access to sex doesn’t imply control of female hypergamy?
You contradict yourself.
I have no inside knowledge… but methinks CH has a baby girl.
The tip? An understanding of fatherly … vulnerability.
The concept of love/romantic marriage was original pedestializing of women Unfortunately it became normative on a mass soio-cultural level.
“overjoyed when fate steps in to excise the cancer from his family that he wished he could excise himself, but never had the guts nor the informal societal support to do so.”
Don’t know ’bout the societal angle, but he’s definitely supporting plenty of gut.
I’m a young WASP woman and my dad just sent my charming bad boy off never to contact me again. I was initially heartbroken but soon saw the light…my dad didn’t need social approval to do the deed. My only complaint: if dads can send away bad boys why can’t they arrange marriages with the good boys?
I think that’s what the whole tradition of a man asking the parents for permission to marry their daughter comes in. But technically, neither rejecting a daughter’s bad boy love interest nor arranging a good boy marriage is socially acceptable.
You’re a lucky girl to have such a father.
[…] Heartiste and Steve Sailer provide compelling evidence that females should not be allowed to make their own sexual and reproductive choices. Their hormones make them stupid. Thus we have a bunch of baby murderers running around who will doubtless repeat their parents choices. And here is another video of raging hormones on display. Most females, upon meeting a seemingly high status male, will jump his bones given a few minutes of opportunity, which is why societies where virginity was important and illegitimacy disastrous kept fertile age women on a very tight leash. […]
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Ironically, arranged marriage, and its precursor, bride abductions, are practiced by people like the Chechens. And of course silliness as Muslims can’t be White.
Ahhh the mighty CH is finally realizing that the key to the marriage question is for parents to simply…arrange them. Why do we need to relearn ancient wisdom?
The CH is a great teacher. I believe the dad would be sporting a ‘shit-eating grin’.
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/world-leaders-a-study-in-contrasts/
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shit%20eating%20grin&defid=1894961
I wonder if he told his daughter, “I told you so, you stupid bitch.” The grin tells me he is more than a passive beta feeling relief. I see vindication, but it is a false victory, for nothing will penetrate the hamster hold of a SWPL HB still in her prime, rugrat in tow or no. Too much government empowerment.
Is the dad to throw his life away?: “…that he wished he could excise himself, but never had the guts nor the informal societal support to do so.” You PUAs don’t, now do you? Next! Even if she is your own daughter, is she worth it? No, because you can’t cast pearls before swine and get anything fashionable, even if your own flesh and blood. Subservience to a woman, and to a woman’s needs is the same difference, is always a mistake. Maybe CH has ‘connections’ that make ‘solutions’ possible, but the fiat money is unstoppable and the rule will be no solutions for virtually all dads until this bitchroided society self-terminates, and the full faith and credit in banksters with it.
It’s important to note that romantic love is a myth anyway.
“Romantic love might be the most pervasive myth of Western culture. Romance is a cultural invention, not a natural phenomenon.
We have been so deeply indoctrinated into the romantic mythology that we have no awareness of the process of emotional programming that created our romantic responses.
Popular culture provides the main ways we learn how to ‘fall in love’. Movies, television, popular songs, novels, & magazines all train our feelings into the wonderful delusion of romance.”
From ‘Romantic Love is a Hoax’ by James Leonard Park.
avoiding moderation by having no link, google it to easily find his website
CH, his writing could be the bookend to your philosophy.
Based on some real-life experience, I recommend that Dads teach 2 skills to their girl-children. Teach them to ride big, dangerous horses and to shoot large caliber handguns.If you start them off early; say, around 4 or 5 years old, they will not need any lengthy explanations in order for them to want to learn these things.. They just dive into it, if their instincts are healthy.
The result can be that they are immunized against all sorts of post-modern delusions. They will have learned that horses are inherently crazy and dangerous and must be controlled in a realistic fashion. Trust me, they will get the real meaning of that without taking it personally. They will have also learned that firearms are never the least bit dangerous absent a stupid human interface. IE, Sane people are better to be around, for all sorts of reasons.
And, as a father who iniates them into the knowledge of primal truths and fun, you will remain the most fasinating man in their lives for a good long time.
Penelope.
Because the good boys don’t want to marry you any more than the man-whores you are currently climbing on top of in the back of their rusted out Chevy Vans.
[…] Tamerlan’s Tsarina And The Perils Of Love Marriage […]
It’s just what happens when someone has no sense of identity. They give up everything they have to embrace someone else’s culture, and actually believe they’re being enlightened and tolerant. I personally don’t respect anyone who can’t tell me about their culture and isn’t proud of their identity. And that, unfortunately, is a lot of white people.
“And so what you get is fathers like the one above, powerless to stop his daughter’s stupid decisions, and overjoyed when fate steps in to excise the cancer from his family that he wished he could excise himself, but never had the guts nor the informal societal support to do so.”
Close, but no cigar. The cancer has already taken root in the form of the moslem spawn his daughter carried to term.
>> I’ve known Hindus in arranged marriages
What’s going on in nowadays in India and maybe half of Muslim South Asia is…. “arranged introductions”. The girls are presented candidates; the girl can veto.
this also holds true in a large fraction of modern-day Ultra-Orthodox Judaism: the so-called “shidduch dating”.
A milder form is also prevelant in the Gulf countries these days. The Authorities arrange unspoken, but specific festivities (at neighborhood sports stadia, etc) where neighborhood boys are free to approach the girls (there’s a chaperone within shouting distance, but the eligible gals usually get their working de facto privacy), and try to make that good first impression which will result in the girl giving out her cell number. Eventual “dates” are typically in a mall or the like, with the girl having a (usually young-ish, like a married sister or cousin) mellow-laid-back, but definite chaperone.
I saw no evidence that the young people are unhappy about the deal.
Speaking of Tamerlane,the emperor after whom this dipwad was named, was rumored to have had the Ottoman Emperor Bayezid thrown in the gallows and made his wife Despina serve him dinner..naked…and apparently she liked doing it….
Make what you will out of this
For people interested in other flavors of red pills:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/was-tamerian-tsarnaev-radicalized-by-the-cia.html
The vagina tingles have begun for the younger brother, the child-murdering Dzhokhar, the one with those deep, dreamy, soulful eyes and devil-may-care hair styling.
http://www.boston.com/blogs/news/opinion/bostoncomment/2013/04/do_you_feel_empathy_for_dzhokh.html
http://amandapalmer.net/blog/20130421/
Women are so predictable.
It’s too bad many people on the alternative right also lap that shit up.
That should have been a reply to something… Fuck.
Interesting idea but doesn’t it negate the fact the fact plenty of women & men marry based on love and do just fine? Or that any man could make equally foolish decisions if blinded by love? Seems like you are taking a specific instance & taking it to mean more than it probably does.
“plenty of women & men marry based on love and do just fine”
citations needed
You do know this “Alpha” was on welfare and stayed home to take care of the baby while his wife worked? Some “Alpha.” Snicker.
So what do you think of pimps?
The wife definitely had a Puritan/modern leftoid martyr complex and no doubt was telling herself she would rescue Tamerlan from himself. That’s how she rationalized her attraction to his unabashed sense of machismo. It’s also affirmative action at the personal level. Read The Rantings of a Single Male if you can find it. By Tom Ellis. He talks about this phenomenon. It’s a funny and readable book. Mostly it’s true.
White Turks are not real Turks. They are Galatians. Gauls who migrated to Turkey before the 1st Century.