Sometimes, in moments of deep reflection, I wonder… just what delusional depths can the typical American woman plumb? I thought I’ve seen it all… attack lawyers bitching off the shoulder of sensitive niceguys… I watched cockblocks glower in the bar near the target babe. All those delusions will be spun in time, like hamsters on wheels. Time to self-deceive.
But now I see there is more out there. A bigger, better, faster hamster. A rodent so enormous on a wheel spinning so violently it creates its own black hole of irrationality, sucking in logic, reason and common sense to an event horizon doom.
Behold: The Hamster of Hamsters. The Mother of All Rodents. The MOAR you know… the more you despair that America is in the grips of a virulent, and wholly undeserved, narcissism determined to sink the nation ship with the utmost alacrity.
The beast hungers:
In that sense, vanity is yet another stick with which people are beaten — because women are told, constantly and without any real deviation from the message, that they have to look a certain way to be worthwhile, to be of value. To be REAL, in some sense.
This is, of course, utter bullshit. Because any woman who identifies as a woman is a real woman. There’s a lot of different ways that can look and they are all valid.
“Because any woman who identifies as a woman is a real woman.” Is this the ur-tautology? Or just the usual gibberish from the usual losers unable to cope with the revelations from clear thinking?
Leaving aside for the moment any presumption this particular breed of hamster vessel knows what she means by the word “valid”, it is absolute falsehood that all women have value no matter what they look like. A morbidly obese land whale has almost zero romantic value to nearly all men. A woman who is so disgustingly fat she ceases to retain even the merest shimmer of womanly shape is a female of very low physical value.
Her post seems melancholy to me in some ways, caught and struggling in the web of the social expectations that are thrust upon women.
Expectations exist because we are biological machines with biologically-based desires that react to specific body types. When those body types deviate from the desirous norm, we recoil as if we have seen a monstrous creature of the nightmare world.
if you are fat and you accept your body as it is, you are often bombarded with “Your fat!” (they never get the “you’re” right) [ed: female humor] in email and comments and sometimes in person, as though you need the reminder because you’ve risen above your station.
If you accept your fatness, then you wouldn’t be bothered by people calling you fat. Is Donald Trump bothered when people say to him “You’re rich!”?
One of the best things I ever did for myself was to consciously make an effort not to judge people’s bodies.
Here comes the patented feminist self-contradiction within two sentences…
I do not care if your hipbones stick out.
But you noticed, didn’t you, Judgy McJudgemytwoextrabeefpattiesonasesameseedbunfueledwideloadass? The “hipbones stick out” descriptive excess is classic fatgirl speak for healthy weight, slender women, hidden under an obfuscating layer of plausible deniability that she “does not care” about those skinny girls and their jutting hipbones. Fat shits just love their propaganda that the world is about to be overrun with thin women on the verge of mortal anorexia.
Your body is awesome.
Yes it is.
I do not care how many chins you are packing.
Men do. And that’s what matters.
Your body is awesome.
No it’s not.
So is mine.
I’ll be the judge of that.
Awesome, indeed. Awesomely rotund.
“So is mine.”
It’s like listening to a small child argue. The mind on display here is underdeveloped like a child’s, but at least children have the excuse that their brains are still a work in progress. This is an adult woman talking like this. Acting out like a petulant brat that reality is what she says it is, and so there!
“There’s no place like my body. There’s no place like my body. There’s no place like my body. Yay, I’m happy with myself again!”
If you wish for it hard enough… well, you’re still a fat crap.
My vanity — when I am not compromised by my own intrinsic self-doubt (two days before my period, like CLOCKWORK) — is of the traditional form. My vanity is in thinking that I am absolutely worth being looked at, absolutely worth being seen. Absolutely worth thinking of myself as talented.
Correction: You’re not worth being looked at, you’re not worth being seen, and goshdarnit, you’re absolutely not worth thinking of yourself as an alternative and equally worthy female form. And this fact will not change no matter how much you lie to yourself otherwise. It will never change until you change the fact itself, by losing weight and slimming down to a reasonable facsimile of a sexy woman. In your case, the fact itself looks to weigh about 100 unnecessary pounds.
Vanity is distasteful in people who at least can claim some justification for feeling vain; we may not like it but we understand. In contrast, vanity is farcical delusion in people who don’t possess a scintilla of real world evidence to justify their bloated self-regard. The vanity untethered from reality is a joke; it’s Generation Lookatme! on uppers, their heaving bulk held aloft by a helium-filled entitlement complex. The best thing for society would be to have these BubbleBoars disabused of their fanciful self-delusions. Of course, it might take more than a few stabs with the soulkilling shiv until they get the message. There’s a lot of ego blubber to cut through.
I wouldn’t call that inflated. I wouldn’t call that undue. I’d call that actually having a pretty good grasp on being confident that I am, in fact, a worthwhile human being.
A person’s actual worth is inversely proportional to the efforts she takes to convince herself of her worth.
Other than the death fatness and the blue hair, I’m actually pretty conventional in my appearance, according to the social beauty imperative: I am white, I have a clear complexion (mostly), I have thick curly hair on my head but little body hair. I have an hourglassy shape.
You’d have to be sober-ish to think she’s hourglassy. Hey, I thought all body types are worthwhile? She shouldn’t preen about her clear complexion and hourglassy shape. Is there something wrong with hirsute women?
I am still going to advocate for everyone being at least a little vain though. Because “pretty” should not be the sole criterion for “worth being seen.” Because “pretty” is actually kind of a bullshit narrow construct.
The hamster has gone suborbital.
In fact, when people who do not fit into the effing oppressive beauty standard that is going on in America are vain as hell, I love it.
“I am a beautiful, healthy woman. Fuck you, dad!”
I think it’s powerful and subversive and political and awesome.
No, it’s just retarded and transparent and silly and self-defeating.
Because fuck those folks who think you don’t deserve to be seen.
The problem is that there’s too much of you to see.
It’s worth clarifying as well — not only is no one required to participate in beauty culture,
No one is required to participate in breathing oxygen, either, but there are consequences if you choose non-participation.
you are still awesome and worth being seen [for the degenerate freak show you are] if you reject beauty culture entirely.
ftfy.
If vanity is about excessive pride in our appearance, well, let’s just say I’ll be damned before I look in a mirror and hate what I see just to avoid being vain.
Interesting reasoning. I didn’t know the opposite of vanity was self-hatred.
My only caveat regarding the awesomeness of vanity? Your intense and concentrated awesomeness does not mean other people are not also awesome.
I bet she doesn’t think Todd Akin is awesome.
Jane and the xoEditors actually have a whole new project in the works that will celebrate all things VAIN. It’s pretty hella exciting.
I used to think that setting these insipid behemoths straight would require nothing more than ignoring them. The sexual market is cruelly indifferent to one’s constructed vanity, and fat shits would find in short order how unloved they were by men with options. But now, I dunno… cold indifference doesn’t seem to be doing the trick. Pointing and ridiculing is the next step in the campaign against raging American female egotism, and if that doesn’t work, well, there’s always diabetes, chopped feet, and early death.
Why do I put crazed egomaniacs like this woman on the breaking wheel? What’s the point of being so mean to someone who is probably nice to puppies when she isn’t eating them? I do it to set an example for the others. To push back against evil ideologies that infect innocent minds. And make no mistake, this woman’s message is evil. If other women who had not yet ruined their bodies by blowing up to her repulsive dimensions took her words to heart, they might feel entitled to let themselves go, figuring that their body is beautiful no matter what it looks like, and shame on you for saying differently.
And then the world would be a little bit sadder, a lotta bit uglier, and a hella lot fatter. And that would be decidedly un-awesome.
She could actually be attractive if she lost 100+ lbs. She’s clearly given up on herself.
“She could actually be attractive if she lost 100+ lbs. She’s clearly given up on herself.”
No, I’d say that ship has sailed. Although it’s fair to say that some guy will want to romance her, and probably has.
It’s really not my job to judge what other dudes find attractive, the more guys willing to settle for these “voluptuous women” and give them the loving those of us with self-respect will not.
It’s really not my job to judge what other dudes find attractive…
I dunno – within the genre of trailer-trash BDSM bulldyke pr0n, you might be able to do something with it.
Stage the video in a rusty old single wide, and firsrt some prune-skinned octogenarian hag – presumably a close relative, like an aunt or a great aunt – fists her in the ass, and then maybe she gets down on all fours, and the family pitbull comes into the room, and mounts her from behind, for a little bestiality action, and then rather than climaxing in her vajayjay, the pitbull pulls out, moves around front, and gives her the money shot in the face…
PETA wouldn’t like it, but I’d bet there’d be some Blue State sickos* out there who’d pay to watch…
*Seems like the sort of thing that would be right up Michael Moore’s alley…
How do you fit her in that single wide? Construct it around her?
Hey, I’m fine with these dudes. Just means more for me.
It means more fatties for everyone. Those guys are convincing women in general that it’s OK or even attractive to be a giant blubbery warpig with clown makeup on. If no men gave them any positive attention, the warpigs would stop shoveling twinkies into their mouths and become someone normal men can be attracted to. Thus, more suitable women for you. They all need to be shamed and forced to hide on the darkest corners of the Internet.
You’ve clearly seen Mrs. Moore.
I have. Wish it were otherwise.
SUCH a great fantasy life you have. I can only imagine what you are jerking off to tonight!
Oh, God! If you can see any beauty in this woman, I am giving up on you. I just lost my appetite looking at her.
My zumba class has a couple of those thinking they can shake their butts and belly dance their way to shapeliness. All they do is take up space on the dance floor and eye you wretchedly. That’s the hamster in action.
Dat Hamster:
http://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/159fiv/you_guys_always_advocate_the_cheatersmusttell/
Your point?
At least they’re doing something. You may want to refer them to some paleo sites, and make it about the health of their joints more than weight loss, so they don’t shut you out for seeming what they’d view as judgmental. Have no guilt about fooling people who want to be fooled, when it’s for a good purpose.
Nicole
You may want to refer them to some paleo sites, and make it about the health of their joints more than weight loss,
——————
Yes.
because at the end of the day, you need to decide what your purpose is for raising the issue of fat chicks and what outcome you seek to produce?
Do you want them to get in shape?
or stay fat and serve as targets for ridicule…?
The shame weapon is like the word “nigger”; deploy it too much, and not only does it lose its effectiveness, but it can also generate a sense of “comfortable familiarity” in its intended target, similar to the person who doesn’t reckognize when they need a shower, or likes the smell of their own farts…
The goal should always be to change behavior because once you make your goal to hang a person from a tree, they have no choice but to oppose you no matter how much sense you make.
For most people it is about the hangin’. This is why it’s best that a person truly work on themselves instead of asking others to accept them.
If someone wants to really be helpful, they find a way to do it that doesn’t convince the person they’re helping that they’re beyond help.
“I eat, therefore I am”
You nig, therefore, you aren’t.
so lame
very
Help! I’m crying on the inside! lol
Heheheh, funny. I’m quite sure that you are incapable of experiencing anything as intense as pain.
Oh warpig wants to play.
I’m quite sure you’re incapable of experiencing anything as real as thinking.
…
I rest my case.
lol. Warpig, as a dumb black bitch, you not only do no know how to present a case, you are too stupid to know when one has been laid over your sorry carcass.
Enjoy the decline, Mfumba!
your desire to be beaten is amusing.
lmao. Nigs, the only thing you beat is your two-inch dick to porn of white slave masters reaming out gangbanging monkeys.
lame
lame and gay
Whorefinder, I have an idea. Why don’t you shut up, like forever. Isn’t there somewhere in real life you can mutter racist crap between impressively long stints of masturbating to pics of mustached men?
You no nigga!!
You know you love bangin’ those fat chicks. Hey, whatever works for you, Whorefinder!! No shame in being true to yourself.
You know you love bangin’ those fat chicks.
—Sorry, babe, I’m not a nigger.
Hey, whatever works for you
—-Slender, in shape babes, please.
No shame in being true to yourself.
—There is if you’re black.
Doesn’t matter. Can’t erase the ugliness of her mind and self-delusion.
This. The male equivalent of this is being (a) ignorant and unemployed and living with mom at 40 and/or (b) snaggle-toothed and perpetually unwashed and/or (c) nauseatingly beta. And they can cry about how “women won’t love me for me”, but they will get ZERO sympathy as they take their genes to their graves.
“…need bigger hamster.” Good Jaws reference. Hope everybody got that! Only thing Speilberg ever did that was worth a damn.
It doesn’t matter if she loses 100 pounds. The bitterness and self-delusion are indicators that she would be very bad girlfriend material even if she was shaped like a Playboy centerfold.
True, but how much of that bitterness and self-delusion is a direct result of her decision to be a massive landwhale?
If she had stayed slim, maybe her attitude would have been healthier?
Oh, who am I kidding? She’s a white American female.
Great starting ref to Blade Runner!
DH beat me to it. Props, that was good.
Rationalization is our goal here at Tyrell. More hamster than hamster is our motto.
Look likes we found an untouched, un-Photoshopped photo of FeministX. Well, except that she’s covered her skin in her lesbian lover’s cunt-cream.
Lez snatched this dude’s house:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/159f45/my_wife_cheated_on_me_put_me_through_hell_and_the/
Pass the Methotrexate, because I’m pretty sure that column gave me cancer. Her writing is so junior-high-school bad, I kept expecting to see little hearts and smiley faces dotting her “i”s. If she’s going to tell pretty lies, shouldn’t she at least take the time to make them pretty?
The ability to delude oneself and the scatter brained logic I often see in the fairer sex must have a biological component. Maybe that proclivity for unconditional motherly love where your child can do no wrong is at the root of all this.
I was looking at Chaucer’s Wife of Bath Prologue in the Canterbury Tales the other day …
(not that this happens often)
… and she, the Wife of Bath, was saying all sorts of red-pill stuff about female nature. It would be right at home here at the Chateau.
Yup. Some highlights:
“Those husbands that I had, three of them were good and two were bad. The three that I call ‘good’ were rich and old…”
“No one can be so bold- I mean no man- at lies and swearing as a woman can.”
“A knowing wife if she is worth her salt can always prove her husband is at fault.”
“Lies, tears, and spinning are the things God gives by nature to a woman, while she lives.”
“Now of my fifth, last husband let me tell…though he had beaten me in every bone he still could wheedle me to love, I own. I think I loved him best, I’ll tell no lie. He was distainful in his love, that’s why. We women have a curious fantasy in such affairs, or so it seems to me. When something’s difficult, or can’t be had, we cravy and cry for it all day like mad.”
Oh, just read the whole thing. Her tale too.
I think I’ve lost my instinctual attraction to large breasts. Whenever I see them in the US, they are attached to some morbidly obese non-human like the above. The negative feedback over a period of years has destroyed my healthy biological impulses.
Unfortunately, when you get to be this woman’s size, one could say she has any number of breasts. Just that there are only 2 that have nipples.
Yup.
“Teacup breasts” tend to be favored in higher-class joints for a reason.
Those are breasts?
I though she was giving a plumber a bizarro-world piggyback.
Hilarious!
Sorry, bro. Breasts are mostly made of fat; actual mammary tissue is only a small percentage of the total volume. Now, there does exist a small, gifted percentage of the female population that naturally deposits fat there, resulting in slim girls with naturally large breasts. But alas, for most of us, it’s either be thin and wear a push-up, or get implants, or just deal with being an a-cup.
The upside is that small ones do take a lot longer to sag.
Or find men who appreciate a quality teacup breast when they bite one.
Occasionally God gifts a woman with an excess of dense tissue and an abundance of connective tissue such that they have gloriously perky breasts well past the point that anyone would believe that they’re not fake; so it is possible to have C-sized breasts that pass the Cosmo “pencil test” at 30+. God is not fair, but if you get a winning genetic ticket, He is awesome. This is a heritable trait… a girl I dated was professionally modeling bikinis for catalogs into her early 30s and claimed that her mom still had the rack of a teenager into her 50s.
I knew a girl that was slim with larger breasts than any girl her size should have.
However, that’s her only selling point, sure she’s thin, which puts her over a lot of girls, but it’s just a wierd appearance and she’s not very good with hygiene. You would have to see it to believe it.
I also think she is pretty high-T, she had about the narrowest hips you could imagine for a girl.
Yes. Women who develop late can be particularly awesome. The most perfect breasts I’ve “had” were on a mid-30′s Chinese woman, but they were firm like a teenager’s with giant-pencil-eraser nipples. She said they hadn’t finished developing until she was in her early-to-mid 20′s.
It’s funny, because I remember all the girls that were my peers and were hot at 14, and now they are all quite the opposite.
There has to be a sweet spot, a spot a girl hits in her development whenever she is attractive, and will keep her looks until her late 20s at least.
Women who develop late can be particularly awesome.
Depends on how and why. Breasts are reactive to estrogen. Some women produce/circulate more than others. My mom’s only recently stabilized at a cup size (post-menopause). Menopause also made my mother insane, because guess what, estrogen does crazy things to the female brain. I’ve got up four sizes in the past eight years, which is irritating, especially considering my BMI is stable. I am not looking forward to my late 40s.
Estrogen.
Although, yes, a lot of Asian woman have very nice breasts (but Chinese women can be crazy, so…).
Now, there does exist a small, gifted percentage of the female population that naturally deposits fat there, resulting in slim girls with naturally large breasts.
… who reside disproportionately (ha) in Eastern Europe.
It’s not a “small … percentage,” but I admire your moxie in defense of the itty bitty titty. Yours is a myth that helps the underendowed feel body-positive, which results in a reverse-justification for putting-on/keeping chub.
This is moot if your idea of “slim” is the anorexic’s. We’re talking a natural layer of softness on a young woman’s frame, not rib-jutting boney or bodybuilder muscley.
Matt
Agreed. Plenty of women naturally sport more than an A-cup. The above attempt at justification is the flat chested equivalent of the above fatty’s hamster.
Eh, YMMV. An A-cup is a good trade-off for decent muscle tone. Depends on her ass, really.
Spoken like a flat chested woman
Normally these fat broads focus on having sexy stylish hair. This one can’t even get that one right
Yeah. Fat girls always have nice hair. Superhot skinny girls can look sexy with shaved heads, which means hair isn’t actually important. But if you’re bloated and ugly, hair’s what you’ve got.
“Hourglassy shape”
I was stunned. Really, hourglassy? My eyes get glassy when I see her, in the spaced out, sad for society way.
Did you see this one?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/suzy-favor-hamilton-136952
I cut a couple choice quotes out (and a picture from her escort service roll) here:
http://aneroidocean.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/i-will-take-responsibility-i-was-already-taking-responsibility-before-a-reporter-outed-me-swear/
Thanks for that photo. Really needed to see that,
Heck, you can find lots more just like her on OkCupid.
We’re gonna need a (MUCH) bigger wheel……
“A person’s actual worth is inversely proportional to the efforts she takes to convince herself of her worth.”
…and is made even more infinitesimal by efforts she takes to convince *others* of her worth.
This.
As I mentioned in my other comment, true acceptance is a personal thing. You don’t have to let everyone else know that you accept yourself, which is insecurity.
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Women are going to be insecure. Even I have my moments from time to time. One just can’t spend their whole life so worried about what other people think that every interaction turns into a plea for acceptance, whether or not that is masked by, “I love myself.”
I understand not everybody is going to be okay with me for a variety of reasons, and those people don’t get to benefit from my existence, not that they’d want to. All I care about is that those who look down on me just stay away and stay out of my way. When they don’t, then Nature decides who’s fittest. I’m cool with Nature.
We all have defects, and we all have to deal with the balance between acceptance and need for improvement where possible or feasible. I am not okay with some people, and I don’t want those people pressuring me to be okay with them. So I wouldn’t try to press myself on someone else.
Women don’t usually think this way though. Social reality is reality for them, and if people have a problem with something they are, it is very difficult for them to just take it on the chin and move on. This is why I don’t like the idea of ridicule as a cure for a physical defect. Swiping two examples from feminists who like to bring these up as social pressure, ridicule didn’t stop foot binding or extreme corsetry. Enough people had to get tired of suffering.
It will happen with fat too, and probably sooner since real feminists hate fat as much as men do. Fat acceptance with feminism, especially using the fertility icon parallel, is new and losing steam in line with insurance covered weight loss surgery. There are very few fat women left in Israel, to the point that many shops that specialized in plus size clothes are shutting down. I expect the same will happen in the U.S. soon as well.
I stopped reading after I saw “Nicole”
Good job staying out of the way. You get a gold star.
tl;dr; stupid woman writing.
Warpig, just give up. Please pull a David Foster Wallace. You’re like Obsidian with love handles.
Whore, responding to one of your posts that you are empty and broken was not necessarily an invitation for you to continue to prove it.
Foot binding stopped because the Communists outlawed it (probably because it was harder to make women work in the fields and in the backyard smelters with bound feet) and corsets went out of fashion (well, probably for comfort, but women still would be one-upping each other if some Parisian fashion designer didn’t decide to get rid of the damn things). But that actually brings up a different point.
I agree with you, with a bit of a caveat – ridicule from men towards women means nothing, because us women know at an instinctive (read: probably subconscious) level they don’t really give a shit about fashion and are probably still going to fuck us, no matter what’s in vogue. Ridicule from other women, however, means a hell of a lot. None of us wants to be outdone by another woman. Means we’ve lost, and another woman’s won, a potentially better mate. Things like corsets and foot-binding were all about women enhancing their physical attractiveness over other women – “if her daughter’s feet are small and she got a man like that, I’m going to make sure I make my daughter’s feet even smaller!”
I hope the fat thing starts to go away soon. Not only is it physically repulsive, but there are significant health consequences to carrying that much extra weight around. I’m not so optimistic as you though – here in the States, women are fatter than ever, and it seems like plus-size clothing stores are everywhere. (As an aside, it’s also a heck of a lot easier to find DD+ cup bras in normal department stores, and even Victoria Secret’s has finally gone up to a DD in its stock. Nice for this 32E girl that they’re finally selling lacy bras in her size, but typically, the stock for that cup size starts at a 38 band and goes up from there)
Just wait until Obamacare kicks in. Notice that they’re treating obesity like the epidemic when the real epidemic is diabetes, cancer, and pre diabetes and cancer conditions mostly caused by industrial “food” and sedentariness.
The reason obesity is getting more attention is because it is easily solvable for a price. In countries with national or pervasive healthcare, they’ve already started giving out weight loss surgeries and drugs that cost no more than one’s insurance payments or health tax.
Once this is available in the U.S. the same thing will happen that did here. Everybody will be able to afford to get their stomach volume reduced and their belly carved off, and nobody will be left but a few specialty shops for older ladies.
People will still get diabetes and crazy cancers, but since hardly anybody will be fat, I guess everybody will be happy. I personally don’t care how stupid people select themselves out. So long as they don’t pave over every scrap of Nature and blow the sides off of every mountain, I’m good.
“In countries with national or pervasive healthcare, they’ve already started giving out weight loss surgeries and drugs that cost no more than one’s insurance payments or health tax.”
No it’s not. In such countries if you are too fat, you don’t get free surgery. You get nothing, nil, zero. They blame your health problems on your weight. They find many excuses to cut costs in these countries because they are drowning from under.
And where did you hear that obesity could be solved with drugs or surgery? Drugs don’t work, and the surgery only works in certain individuals.
Medical science is looking for other solutions though. Maybe more effective drugs that do work. I know there is something in the works.
Lily, I am living in one such country and watching it happen before my eyes. I also have a close friend who is a doctor, and have dated two of them here. If anything, they find every reason they can to treat you for whatever. Old people go to the doctor because they’re bored and it passes the time.
There is just more money in some things than others, and obesity is big bucks.
Doctors get paid by the insurance companies for every person they see, and also get paid by drug companies for suggesting their brand of medication. Kickbacks from drug companies are supposed to be illegal, but many go it anyway. I don’t know if I’d say most, but definitely many.
The reason they blame all of a person’s health problems on obesity is because there is more money in that than treating complications from being off feed. Treating the food issues in earnest would also mean admitting that something was wrong with the sort of food people eat to supposedly reduce their cholesterol. There is also money in the cholesterol treatment.
When someone has breast or prostate cancer, there won’t be enough doctors to handle them in a timely manner, but if you need your stomach staple, surgeons will suddenly show up from all sides. It is a racket.
I am losing count of my friends who’ve had weight loss surgery, partly because some do it but don’t tell. None of them could afford it before obesity itself became officially a disease to the insurance companies. They were processed within a month of requesting the surgery.
OK stop saying “This”.
This woman is so ugly she isn’t worth rape.
A woman who you wouldn’t even rape. I think we have the insult win.
Rape is the solution to so many of life’s problems.
Just not this one.
lame
It sure helped yer mama squirt you out.
Haha!
Oh yeah?
“Yeah, like anyone would want to ‘R’ her.”
And…. I’m gonna need a bigger harpoon.
Do it. You could get a lot of whale oil and kerosene out of that one and make good money.
I’d go the making soap route.
Harpoon…SSS.
Plural. One won’t be enough.
Packing a harpoon only entitles one to the occasional beach feast.
ooohh…keeps a small bag of flour in her purse. The sad thing is that she has put so much stock into her looks and then has so little (no irony intended) to show for it. She’s all over the place with logic and black and white thinking. No one is saying she has to be invisible to men, etc. but vanity and faux “awesomeness” I have had enough of.
What the fuck are with the fat folds on her tits? It looks like her arms connect part way down her boobs.
And while we’re on the subject of tits, notice how all these fat girls who go on and on about how “looks don’t matter!” “it doesn’t matter what men think!” always make sure to show off their breasts.
Any women (well, over C or D-cup) can get armpit boob-folds. Typically caused by wearing a cup size below what she needs. This poor woman probably doesn’t have a prayer of that.
Those aren’t fat folds, that’s gravitational lensing…
Made the mistake of looking at the comments…
People drowning in a sea of desperation.
I see fatties attempt to hamsterbate their pathetic state through mutual friends. At least one of them tried to put some tiny effort into losing weight and failed. It was of course not her fault. Guzzling beer and candybars had nothing to do with it, I’m sure. Since this failure she has literally given up altogether and rapidly bloats into some thing that not even a black guy would hit. She also realizes that in her 30s, the show is pretty much over for her. I smile when i think about how yet another fat leftist feminist race traitor slut will not be reproducing. How much longer can they keep this up before they disappear completely?
The thing I hate about bitter old and/or unattractive feminist women is that they try also to convince young pretty girls not to reproduce.
lozzzzlzozlzzolzolzzzz to her referring to her shape as hourglassy lolzzzzzzlzzzzzz #dead
Indeed. “Curvy” (in any of its synonyms) and morbidly obese are contradictory terms.
She’s curvy, all right… in the same way the world curves as you move toward and away from the equator.
We may not agree on a WHOLE lot, Greg, but I think that you’re right, and red-shifting is very definitely in evidence here.
LOL, like the Earth is curvy. I hate that shit. Real curvy women, as in 36-24-36, can’t describe themselves as such because guys think she is just using jedi word tricks to rationalize her fatness.
And any girl in the healthy BMI range is obviously anorexic.
Obvious. Hey, pass the pizza and soda, would ya?
HOW MANY FREAKIN’ HOURS ARE IN HER DAY????!!!
soon she’ll discover she was a lesbian all along like all the other fatties with no options.
She even has that annoying superior feminist smirk
If you have the requisite over active hamster and hatred for men to join the club you get 3 “benefits” to mix and match
A pompous smirk, a lantern jaw and 150 extra pounds
And what the fuck is this beauty culture nonsense
Is it one of those retarded femcunt concepts like rape culture that’s meaningless to all real people
It’s not a smirk. It’s a fat girl defensive smile. If she actually smiles a broad smile with teeth, her fat cheeks will look even more chipmunkesque and they’ll ride up to her eyes, making her look Chinese.
Ah, the little word “real”. By claiming to want “real” something, you set a presumably high but utterly unspecified bar. I want “real” democracy, “real” food, “real” education etc. And in the end, a “real” man or a “real” woman. All is about telling the world “I am really picky, but you have to find out the
details of what I want”.
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I wanted to mention what a self-obsessed jerk-off fest the comments under this article were…and why NO MAN should ever “like” a woman’s pic on Facebook for any reason ever.
“Liking” photos = being immediately thrown into the Beta Orbiter category.
Her boobs have…side dimples?
Can the hamster be so powerful so as to manifest itself this way?
Our host did say she needed a MOAR hamster to handle this spinning. Appropriate, given the size of her.
If beauty is irrelevant why does she post a picture showing her breasts while in full face cake make-up mode and a pretty dress. If she completely doesn’t judge herself, she should be au naturelle – no make-up, no done up hair, no bra and wearing the most comfortable t-shirt/sweater money can buy.
HAMSTERZILLASAURUS
The perfect OKCupid username for her.
Her skeleton is gonna need seismic retrofitting.
this post is an overreaction if there ever was one.
maybe she just doesn’t give a shit what you or anyone else thinks.
Unless she is defective on additional levels, it cares what men think about it, no matter how much it protests to the contrary.
Given that fact that obesity rates in western society stick out like a sore thumb and continue to rise, especially with regard to women, it represents a behavioral plague that can’t be disincentived enough.
you are absolutely right. what we’re witnessing is nothing less than a public health crisis. but it may have more to do with the standard american diet than it does a precipitous collapse of american moral fiber as is implicit in our host’s accusations.
could the causes of modern day obesity have more to do with the interests of big ag and the regulatory capture of the fda than it does americans suddenly getting gluttonous and exercise-phobic? time will tell.
You lost, boy?
Maybe not govt regulation, per say, but there definitely are serious problems with the average American diet. It’s driven by prices, though. Things that don’t spoil – ie, processed shit that is terrible for you – are far, far cheaper and are therefore oftentimes the best options. I’ve got celiac’s, and basically can’t eat 99% of processed food anymore. I have to do most of my own cooking, from scratch. As a single woman, my grocery bill for the week is sometimes in excess of $90, but at least I maintain a healthy weight. Most people can’t afford to eat that way. All the exercise in the world is not going to fix the damage that processed food wrecks on the body.
I can relate.
Although doctors never agreed on what I have ( and there are no test to confirm this ), I seem to have irritable bowel syndrome and/or Chronic fatigue syndrome
Like you I must avoid most processed foods and my weekly food bill is about 90$
I have had those health problems since 1996 but I eventually created my own diet ( I eventually gave up on doctors who did not seem to understand anything about my health problems ) and I am feeling much better now.
Some processed foods are like poison to me
My mom had a similar situation. She’d been sick since I was born, and she’d had IBS and fatigue in varying degrees since the 80s. We finally get her out of the mainstream health care system, found her a naturopath physician, and within a month, she had a workable diagnosis. She’d had something called candidiasis for sixteen years (fungal growth in the intestines that usually happens after long rounds of antibiotics). A few months of a specialized diet and a few rounds of antifungals, and she was well on her way to recovery. Similarly, they thought my dad had colon cancer, and were about three weeks away from starting him on chemo, when the (same doctor) figured out it was celiac’s.
Not saying any of that’s your problem, but the modern medical system IS a serious issue. Physicians are trained to give drugs; if it can’t be treated with drugs, the source problem can’t be treated at all. No doctor is going to prescribe a solution that equates to dietary changes (unless, of course, it involves medication as well). Sorry they couldn’t figure out what was wrong with you, but good for you for figuring it out for yourself.
The worst part is, how horribly obvious it is once you’ve been through it. I look at people now sometimes, and they just all look ill. I don’t mind the celiac’s, really – it helps me keep my weight down, and I don’t look like a used bag, the way a lot of women start looking in their late twenties.
Yes candida albicans
I did not mention it, I did not want to make my comment too long.
but it seems to be what was causing my health problems
If I am carefull I can be symptom free for weeks
but if I eat a lot of refined sugar, it comes back, the first sign is bloating, then I start to feel tired all the time, and then there is at least a dozen otherweird symptoms
but as I said now that I have created my own diet based on what I read and on what works for me, I am much better, I do not look sick, I lift weights regularly
and if I am not carefull and the symptoms come back and I have flare ups, then it takes a long time to fix the problem
I have to eat weird things for a couple weeks until my system starts acting norml again
I think this kind of problem – the candida over growht in the digestive tract – is far more common than people realize.
I am convinced that a lot of people who think they are depressed or can not explain why they gain weight
… sorry for the graphic details but in the first few years of my health problem ( about 12 years ago ), I had diarhea 4 or 5 times a day but gained almost 20 pounds , which all doctors I saw told me was impossible, some told me to my face that I was lying , that I was not having diarhea 5 times a day but I was. I was not lying.
and yet i was gaining weight ( I know sounds like a contradiction ) as I was always very hungry( it turns out that when you have a candida overgrowth in your digestive system you do not absorb nutrient very well , which explains why you are constantly hungry… and being tired all the time you feel like eatng will provide you with some energy but it does not )
so some depressed people and some over weight people are actually stuck with a candida overgrowth in their digective tract, but either they have never heard of ti or they don t believe it is possible that simply changing your diet will change your life
it took me a few years to believe it myself.
at fist I was simply refusing to believe that if avoided sugar for a couple weeks I would feel like a new man
and that if I ate too much sugar and too much process food I would become sick again – not temporarily but for a long long time.
I am sure tens of thousands of people have that problem but they don t know or don t believe it,
Now that I have analyzed this thing for 16 years – and took notes for 16 years – and have read thousands of things on health and nutrition, I am convinced at least two dozen health problems are linked to this
and you are right, if the doctor can not find a pill or a surgical intervention for it then they tell you it is all in your head or something.
I did not want to expand on it but it seems I have now…
I hate to admit having any weaknesses or flaws, but then again I do not know anyone here and will never meet any of you.
but as I said I am much better, I look as good as when I was twenty years younger and I feel quite good
My guess is, it’s CAPITALISM.
If she didn’t give a shit, she wouldn’t be writing something like this. The very act of protesting/attempting to alter healthy society’s opinion of her is an act of saying she deeply, deeply cares about what that opinion is.
Which would be equal cause for severe mockery… society doesn’t need a bunch of land whales clogging up the streets with their don’t-give-a-shit presence, nor clogging up Cyberia with their inane bloviating.
you know, every day in nyc i come across people who i think are a waste of space, better off dead. like homeless bums, doddering elderly barely able to negotiate the sidewalk. i could go on.
but i doubt that if the question were put to them, _they_ would think so. their lives are of value to them, thank you very much. or if they’re not in the mood to be so polite…fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
this was the core message of the woman’s rant.
You obviously miss the point. Either that, or you enjoy fucking fatties.
Either way, you’re brain-damaged.
‘you’re brain-damaged’
hmmmm… i think you’re the one who missed the point. i agree she’s likely sexually irrelevant to all but a small minority of men. so what? let’s assume you’re her male equivalent, a basement dwelling omega. is a beautiful day any less beautiful because of your condition? pleasures any less keen? at least when you’re not obsessing over your plight, which is hard to do 24/7.
it’s true she may not be of any value to anyone else what with her being outside the parameters of a desirable female, but that doesn’t mean she values herself any less.
Wow. Objective and self-aware? What on earth are you doing here?
The problem is when it’s not a simple statement of, “I value myself so fuck you.” That would be admirable. It’s when it uses the same weapon of the so-called oppressors and shame is the main tactic used to fend off attackers.
I used to be like that until I went natural, which probably alters the brain chemistry in a way that one can think these things through more clearly. Why do I need to shame someone into liking me? Is that even possible? Why not just let them have their opinion or if I feel like bothering to argue at all, clear up any false assumptions? Should I care that billions of other men are not going to find me attractive so long as I have one who does?
These are the kinds of questions one who actually loves themselves and is doing the best they can under their circumstances asks themselves before approaching the issue of insert whatever defect or difference in a social context. Thinking good, not thinking bad. If people judge, let them judge. Just be the best you can within your means, boost your allies, and crush your enemies. If one feels at the mercy of others, that is the main problem to solve. Begging for mercy from humans…never worked ever.
Yes, they do experience life’s pleasures less powerfully. Status alters brain function, and in turn experience. If you ever manage to earn meaningful social standing,you will gain with it a heightened appreciation for the pleasurable. My own growing success as a womanizer (nods, ch) has made this very clear to me. It has been almost a year since my first threesome, and food still tastes better. Bringing your egalitarianism into matters of the heart is foolish.
Indeed, Rayge. One of my favorite sayings on that is that pity has no place in mate selection. There are many things that I can accept and even like about a matey that I could not accept or like about a mate. I learned that lesson the hard way.
So long as a person’s standards are realistic, not pessimistic, and maybe a bit optimistic since we are talking about activities and relationships that should include some pleasure, it’s good to have standards. If someone wants to date at a higher standard, they should live at a higher standard.
It’s not always about external social status. One’s personal feelings about one’s self being grounded in reality and Nature is important and, in my opinion, truly makes one’s status. If you believe you’re worth taking care of, nurturing, and strengthening, then you do that and raise your status to yourself. Others may or may not validate that, but certainly worthy potential mates will.
I am still fat, but I am not crying in my cupcakes sitting on my ass waiting for the skinny fairy or running to the surgeon. I live my life and do my best with what I have, and in that doing, have met and attracted a better class of potentials. My circumstances aside of that may still be kinda crappy, but I don’t mind so much anymore. I have to admit that still having some pull at my age, and that people who’ve known me awhile comment that I’m doing well along the way, is very nice.
That extra few seconds of hug that says you’ve graduated from “I really like your personality,” to, “I’d hit that,” is cool too.
Being a New Yorker is a bloody waste of space.
I got two objections to that, one to your assumption and the other to not giving a shit:
1. If she doesn’t give a shit (hers must be enormous), why would she write such a piece full of self assurances of her beauty, why would she want to deter others from using objective standards of beauty. “I don’t give a shit” is the response of someone trying to retreat from an argument they clearly lost. It’s akin to sticking the your fingers in your ears and singing loudly.
2. What other people think about you is of very high importance whenever you interact with someone. The better opinion they have of you the better they will treat you, increasing your mutual quality of life. It’s a testament to good character if you try to be pleasant to other people. I’m currently reading old danimal newsgroups postings (sick at home…), this one I found quite fitting:
If you see someone who chooses to shove food into his/her face and pork up to 300 pounds of hideous blubber, you already know a whole bunch of things about that person which will clearly differ from a person who chooses to work out hard six times per week and control his/her eating. But don’t take my word for it, just try dating two women –—the first an aerobics instructor with a perfectly honed body, and the second a corpulent, bloated couch potato. (Without loss of generality, the same experiment works if we reverse the genders.) You cannot fail to detect an enormous number of behavioral and personality differences between these two women that will impact your relationships with them. When you look at these women’s bodies, part of what you are seeing is the difference between their life values. The aerobics instructor cares more about the opinions of others. She is willing to forego the immediate pleasures of sloth and gluttony so she can give you more pleasure in the long run by looking the way you (statistically, probably) want her to look. The obese woman, on the other hand, cares less about your pleasure than about *HER* pleasure. Instead of catering to your preference, she is primarily interested in catering to her own needs. She will either be in denial about your preference or actively campaigning to change it for her benefit –— indicating that she has a fundamental problem grasping and coping with reality. Furthermore, it is very unlikely that these profound differences in outlook will isolate themselves just to the areas of diet and exercise. There are many areas of life where a person’s impulsiveness and tendency to discount the future influence the choices they will make.
If she doesn’t care about us, why should we care about her? Why should we even show her common courtesy?
If she doesn’t care about us, why should we care about her?
you don’t need to.
Why should we even show her common courtesy?
because you may care what other people think about you. you may find her contemptible, but dare not treat her disrespectfully because of what witnesses of any manifestation of disrespect may think.
besides, being an armed society, it behooves us to be a polite one.
besides, being an armed society, it behooves us to be a polite one.
Says the fellow from the city who keeps reelecting a certain gun-grabbing Mr. Bloomberg as their mayor.
I’d heed your advice, but fatty bashing is just too much fun. And as a libcunt she probably isn’t armed, although you probably need hollow point ammo to get through that natural kevlar vest.
Elephant gun might work…
And it isn’t just the opinions of others that is at issue here. It’s their own self-worth. A person is good shape is taking the time to try to be healthy and develop habits like exercise.
It isn’t easy to get to the gym and exert all that effort. It’s easier to stay at home and watch TV and eat. I’m an ectomorph and it’s hard as hell trying to add muscle mass to our lanky, bony, dorky frames, so whenever I see an ectomorph who has put on mass, I think “testify, brother.”
As harsh as guys might be on fat chicks, it pales in comparison to how women treat “short guys.”
‘It isn’t easy to get to the gym and exert all that effort. It’s easier to stay at home and watch TV and eat.’
you got that right. all my life i’ve had a challenge in that department, dammit. however, so much is genetic, i’m afraid. as a comparison in a different field, my arrogant self used to think academic stuff that came so easily to me was all a question of will. hey, whatsamatta with you flunking whatever. study already!
not so. there’s a genetic baseline for sure. it’s just plain easier for some than for others. the best advice to give the ‘metabolically challenged’ so to speak, is to tell them they must be extra vigilant.
hey, life is unfair.
‘As harsh as guys might be on fat chicks, it pales in comparison to how women treat “short guys.”’
absolutely. jesus. my boys are minimum 6 footers, thank you god.
What about being stuck with a small dick!!!?!?? I mean,uhm,if you have that problem,not that I mySELFwould have any concerns,you see, heh heh heh.I mean,I am worried about some of YOU guys….
@Rick Derris @newyorker
Regarding shortness, we all have a cross to bear. There isn’t a human on the planet that doesn’t have an issue or two with himself/herself that bothers him/her. It’s how we’re created. What we need to do is learn to accept it and then find ways around it in spite of it. It’s about coping, not harping. So many shorter guys in this blog complaining about their height, as if sitting around and complaining is going to help them at all. And then you have some short guys reporting success way above an allowable rationing. Two extremes. There has to be something in the middle.
Regarding not siting round and watching TV, it’s called discipline. Everybody should acquire some. Nothing comes easy. If it did, we’d have no problems and no choices need be made ever. Life is all about making choices and then living with these choices – reaping the rewards or paying the price.
Uh, lol. No. Some people have bigger crosses than others. I think it’s fine to find somewhere to complain about the burden you have to bear. Sure, don’t let it consume your life, and yeah, try to compensate. But there’s nothing wrong with me also noting that ‘if you’re a short male in the United States, you have be twice as good as the next guy to have a shot.’ It’s simply -untrue- that everyone has a ‘flaw’ or ‘handicap’ of that magnitude.
That’s why I’ll never have any sympathy for any woman who was dumped or rejected because she is/was fat/ugly/etc. The annoying part isn’t the ‘burden,’ it’s the near insanity of the double-standard that gets pushed on all men. Women no longer have ‘faults.’ Everything about who they are is perfect and wonderful — lord help you if you legitimately call an HB 5+ out on her bullshit. Watch what happens. You’ve got her feminazi cockblocker friends, her and her huge raging hamster, and a bajillion brainwashed white knights all ready to go to the mat. Even guys who are good with women won’t call women they’re trying to bang out on their bullshit — that’s how ridiculous it is.
Turn it around — men can get shot down for any reason whatsoever. Look at her the wrong way, you’re a ‘creep.’ Fail to keep any part of your life up to her (again, usually not personally maintained or adhered to) standards? You’re a ‘loser.’ And if you’re short — well, they can just openly diss you on that. Women can openly diss men for pretty much any reason with impunity.
Men are just expected to suck it up and take huge amounts of abuse. So yeah, I can go ahead and work on myself, accept the Matrix for what it is, and go on my way — but I can still point out how dumb it all is. That’s why the advice of women, here and elsewhere, just tends to read like nonsense. It comes from an alien perspective that never seems to track male reality.
Well, there is nothing wrong with venting and might even be good for the psyche to get it all out of your system. So I didn’t mean that irked people shouldn’t complain, only that they accompany it with actions. What use is complaining if you can’t get motivated to try to offset your issues or find ways to compensate for them? I find too much complaining beta.
And as far as “Some people have bigger crosses than others,” everyone feels his/her issue/problem/flaw/cross is the worst hardest thing to bear. It’s just how humans are; we’re egocentric. My only purpose was to make people realize this in order to alleviate the anguish. It helps keeping in perspective that everyone of us has issues we think are major when sometimes they are quite common. So I understand that if you’re a 5’4” man it’s a problems, but there are ways to counteract it.
Lastly, being resentful of women because they like taller men is not fair; it’s part of their biology and they can’t help it. It’s equivalent to feminists blasting men for overwhelmingly liking much younger women. It’s part of men’s biology and it’s not right to trash them for it, just like it’s not right to blast women for liking taller men. I know it’s hard for shorter guys to be altruistic about this reality, but they must or they’ll be filled with lots of hatred and resentment toward women, which will not help them with women at all.
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No.
If she did, she wouldn’t have written a novella about it.
Awesome reference. One of the best monologues ever:
Interesting Heartiste would make a Blade Runner reference–my last post was about the J.F. Sebastian beta.
Great work as usual, CH. Probably your best anti-fat rant.
“I need you ice cream. You’re my best and only friend!”
Hey, I’m trying to eat here.
She’ll find someone to ride her. Fatty fuckers, foot fetishists, scat and golden shower fans….all the same sick rainbow.
No matter how fat, how ugly, how entitled, vain and mentally insane a women is, there is always some guy willing to fuck her. There is always some guy desperate enough to put up with it.
[Heartiste: Not always. Some truly hideous creatures spend their whole lives without even a pity fuck from a dude.]
These days, in this dating market, that includes even some of most physically fit guys.
[No, there are vanishingly few physically fit, high value men who are boffing fat chicks. Most morbidly obese chicks endure long dry spells or perfunctory one night stands with total losers who can’t do any better. Of course, the fact that an omega woman has a slightly easier time getting laid than an omega man has tends to tilt the mating field toward there being more irrationally self-entitled broads than men.]
It makes me sick.
[That grotesque rolls of fat are plenty enough to make one sick.]
Aren’t fat women a fetish for some men, too?
[Heartiste: A tiny minority of men, comparable to goat fuckers and cuckold fetishists. The supply side of the fat chick curve FAR outstrips the demand side.]
Which is the BEST argument you can make for chicks losing weight — yes, there ARE chubby-chasers out there, but in the current environment they’ve been hunted you extinction and are almost all taken already — unless a gal wants to radically reduce her dating pool, she’d better lay off the soda and doritos.
I don’t even believe there are actual chubby chasers. I believe that there are men who realize that chubby women are all they can get, so they just convince themselves that they are attracted to chubby women. Like men who say they like nerds, and then you see them showing up with an uggo in glasses.
Yup! I think the same of fat white women/black men combos (not athletes) and omega loser guys/asian chicks (especially portly ones. If you’re with a chubby asian, you are the herbiest of all herbs).
Oh, I get that it’s a ridiculously small percentage of men who are into it. It actually surprises me that anybody would find it appealing.
I used to be naive and then I saw what is out there on the internet
not only are some men into super fat women but all the weird things you can imagine or can not imagine for that matter, there are people who are into that
I once saw a video where different men insert needles into their own penis while masturbating, one masturbates while banging his penis on a cactus, one skinny man is hung from the ceiling by his scrotum and so on and so forth
they are a minority but there are more sick people out there than I thought
True that… alas.
“Even a 1 can get fucks dumped in her by a drooling parade of Quasimodos.” – CH
Celibacy or my hand make a better option than a fatty.
Two thoughts:
Sure, a woman can have value as a female, separate from her looks, where she defines herself by other aspects of her femininity. And, of course, most non-lipstick lesbians will tell you that a woman’s appearance means jack shit when it comes to sexual attraction. But this leads into my other thought.
I desperately wanted to sleep with the first women I was ever emotionally attracted to. But she is repulsively fat and I just never could do it. It’s a tragedy, since she’d be cute if she lost even 50 lbs. Per the feminist/lesbian handbook that makes me a terrible person, and I feel bad about it (since us ladies aren’t supposed to care about those sorts of things), but… yeah, it was probably the first moment in my life when I realized how full of shit these kinds of women are.
LOL! I can’t believe I’m still reading this thread, CH sounds traumatized by fat women. Every few weeks he puts another cow in the spotlight. But OK, whatev. It seems to amuse a lot of people.
But then I came across your comment and I have to ask you. When you become emotionally attracted to a woman, as per your words, how does it translate into wanting to be intimate with her? What draws you sexually to a girl? It can’t be just emotional closeness, could it? I have emotional closeness with girl friends but I don’t want to touch them sexually. Just curious.
CH does some strange stuff sometimes. Like, why bother pointing this out, the only thing it does is strengthen her hamster.
[Heartiste: As a message for the others. And also because cruelty is fun in itself. >} ]
But regarding my friends… it’s really weird. Been trying to figure that out myself.
A lot of the other bisexuals I know (and by this, I don’t mean drunk college girls looking for attention) say it’s the person who attracts them first. Like, you look at people for what they are first, what kind of plumbing they have second. It’s like… what attracts you to a man? For me, I have the response to both – what’s appealing in the person is who, not what, they are. I have purely physical attraction to certain people (the roomie in college who spent most of her time naked almost killed me) but there needs to be more to it. Physically speaking, most bisexual women seem to be interested in other women the same way men are interested in women. We value the same sorts of things. (which means it’s harder to date lesbians because they just don’t care how they look, but that’s okay, they tend to be nasty about the whole bi thing anyway). I think I’ve seen science about that, actually. Our brains are a little more “mannish” or something.
Specifically, in regards to my friend, she’s bi, too, and we’ve been through a lot together and she’s a lovely, lovely person. The kind of person who’d be great to be in a more intimate relationship with. But the physical stuff is just like this block in my brain when it comes down to it. (Worst part is, she knows she’s got a problem, but she’s just never been able to drop the weight.)
Interesting! Interesting that you weren’t able to give me a more definitive answer. I guess, maybe there is no answer. We have discussed female bisexuality here before and I always thought it could be an emotional thing for some women. I didn’t think the brain is more mannish on bi women, but maybe it is???? Perhaps it’s the combination of emotional need and a more mannish brain directing that need to come from a girl and not from a man.
Personally, I love beautiful women. I think women are a work of art. I stare at beautiful women just like men do, but without the fantasy of being intimate, which I assume a man will engage in when he sees a gorgeous girl. So no sexual interest in them for me.
And I don’t feel a need to be emotionally close to a woman in such deep ways either. Yet, I need it from a man.
It has always been men for me. The first time I realized it is when I was 11 and watching Gone with the Wind. Rhett Butler taking Scarlett upstairs is sexy without being explicit, and yet even an 11-year-old girl understood what it meant. It stirred me to the core. You just can’t get that feeling being with a woman. There is no way a woman could make me feel like this. So emotionally a woman could never satisfy me.
This is another difference between men and women. For men, as long as they are getting off, it’s all that counts, which is why some are happy being gay. But for women it’s different. It’s not enough to get off, we need the emotional/spiritual connection to accompany the getting off. That’s why female orgasm starts in the brain, not necessarily the product of physical stimulation. If a man can “steal” her brain, he could get her off – quickly and powerfully.
So when some women say they need the emotional closeness of a woman, it leads me to believe that indeed their brain is a bit mannish. It’s associating the emotional feeling a woman gets from a man and substituting it with a woman. And which is why you say:
“I have the response to both – what’s appealing in the person is who, not what, they are. I have purely physical attraction to certain people (the roomie in college who spent most of her time naked almost killed me) but there needs to be more to it. Physically speaking, most bisexual women seem to be interested in other women the same way men are interested in women. We value the same sorts of things.”
Anyway, it’s very interesting a subject, for which I don’t think we have answers yet, and it’s why I asked you and I thank you for responding.
Ah, so you noticed it’s not very definitive, right? For me, it’s not. Bisexuality’s a weird animal. I thought I was gay for the longest time, until I fell in love with a man – realized that door swung both ways, and it wasn’t a simple matter to answer why. Actually, I’m more physically attracted to women (I’ve never had the same kind of reaction to a man’s body that I have to females) but more emotionally attracted to men (until my friend, I’d never been to that point with another woman).
I’ve been trying to figure it out, from a purely intellectual standpoint, but it’s difficult. There’s no way to get an unbiased opinion on the subject. Lesbians think we’re just fooling ourselves, men tend to think we’re just making it up, and it’s hard to find other bixsexuals who aren’t nymphos, kinky, into polygamy, or sexually damaged from childhood. The whole LGBT thing, too, is so left-wing political (and so dead-set on making sure nobody looks at anything else than OMG WE WERE BORN THIS WAY YOU OPPRESSING STRAIGHT DICKHEADS) that it’s impossible to get anything out of them other than the GLAAD party line. The politics, really, are preventing any answers from being found – answers which I suspect amount to “human sexuality is a weird thing and nobody can ever really point to one source or cause for it”.
But again, most bisexuals believe that last point. It’s complicated, and we all need to stop stressing so much about who sleeps with what.
I do agree with you, though – there are subtly different emotions triggered by the choice of a male or female partner, and different appealing aspects in each. I don’t think I could ever make a LTR with another woman work. Possibly, but in the long run, I’d rather marry a man. I wouldn’t want to raise children without a father around, and I still have that part of me that wants to be wrapped up and comforted by a male presence. If it was a woman, I would be the more dominant partner, and I’m not sure I’d want to be that for the rest of my life.
Thanks for elaborating. I find your comments very interesting.
You need to cultivate your feminine side, not your lesbian side.
Let’s narrow it down. You’re not a butch, a nymph, kinky, polygamist, or sexually damaged. You’re not so left-wing politically, you’re not willing to say you were born this way as you’re not sure and you have an open mind, and you’re still attracted to men and you want to be wrapped and comforted by a male presence. You possibly want children too and you want their father around. Sounds pretty traditional to me. That’s more than most feminists want. Hell, that’s more than many women want these days. Your attitudes put you ahead to attract a man. From what you write you will be much happier with a man. So don’t yearn for this friend to lose weight, or another woman to come into your life to bond with you emotionally. Keep her as a friend and look for a guy. You’ll be happier in the long run.
@NightLily
Oh yeah, I know! It’s strange how few “normal” people there are in the LGBT community, no matter how many PSAs Neil Patrick Harris makes with that adorable baby of his to convince the American public otherwise. I have zero interest in getting any deeper into lesbian culture than I already am – the whole thing drives me crazy, actually. If you aren’t left-wing and aren’t willing to agree with feminist/gender role/moral relativist BS, you’re not welcome. They are militant about their beliefs, and it can get really, really ugly.
The rest of it… well, I’m old enough to know our personal choices have consequences for other people. If I thought I could find another bi/lesbian woman with compatible views to mine, and we could raise our kids within walking distance of their uncle or grandfather, I’d seriously consider it. But that’s never going to happen, the way the community is. The right choice for a family is a man (if that’s even possible anymore, with guys in my generation being a majority of manboobage and a minority of red-pill men who think I’m going to gut them once I get bored with it all)
I wanna suck those tits, though. They probably lactate gravy.
or high fructose corn syrup
shes a cannibals wet dream.
She’d be all gristle and fat. You want nice marbling, not just fat.
Dunno… the resulting grease fire would burn down their camp.
Heh, heh… well-played.
Gross, some men love huge tits.
At Xhamster – a porn site for those who did not know – they have a category where one can watch women as fat or fatter than the woman above
It seems there are enough men who like fatties to justify having a whole part of the website dedicated to it
I wonder if this is a new phenomenom, I mean if as women are getting fatter every decade, more men are “adapting” and are turned on by fat women or if there was always a certain percentage of men who liked fat women?
I tried to jerk off to bbw porn once. Not for me. But at least I tried.
Interesting.
I once tried to jerk off watching black women porn but I could not do it.
If that makes me a racist then what does it make a man who can not jerk off to fat porn?
a fattyist?
a bodytypist?
A man with normal tastes.
Who the hell knows, your guess is as good as mine, although I have a hard time believing normal real hot-blooded males like ‘em fat. There is a hips to waist ratio that has been proven to be the norm across the board in every society going back thousands of years. Fatties are not going to be successful that quickly (40 years so far) in changing the male brain. They need to lose weight, is what they need. Nuff Said!
No not a change in the brain as 40 years is too short a period
but we know humans can be made to perceie a lot of things as the new normal when only a couple decades earlier the same thing would have been unthinkeable
liberalism has made a lot of things that were totally unnacceptable or unthinkeable the new normal and a lot of people simply go along with it
Now we see men kissing in movies, women wearing repulsive black nail polish etc etc
with the right coaxing or brainwashing what was ugly or unnacceptable yesterday is the new cool thing today
Humans are malleable ( a little too much )
Look at the most views or most favorite videos on any porn site, and they’ll all be svelte young hotties. Nary a fat fuck fucking in the top 10,000.
She’s slightly skinnier in her profile photo.
It’s just a favorably flattering Myspace Angle.
Everyone should upvote me and defend me in the comments section. I’m taking her to task.
Probably got censored, I can see maybe one critical post.
The kind of femcunt who would cut off her baby’s dick
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,540164,00.html?test=latestnews
How do fat people have sex? Seriously, how? Anytime I see a fat dude and a fat woman walking around pushing a stroller, I wonder how insemination happens with all those layers of fat blocking everything. Do you have to mutually pull back your genitalia protecting gunt flaps? Is that foreplay? Can you imagine the stank from a blubberous, fat cradled cunt? It would probably knock a normal man. Maybe the dick fat flap acts as a vapor barrier?
The camera does add 10 lbs.
Hopefully 25 in her case.
You’re right. When you’re that fat, you do tend to look a lot heftier. Those tits of hers coming at you like in 3-D.
“So how many cameras are on her?”
—-Stolen from Chandler, from Friends , who always had the best lines. If he’d said them with asshole confidence versus his beta-fag wussiness, he’d have cleaned up.
Well he was lucky enough to be Courtney Cox’s slave for a few seasons.
Eh, she wasn’t hot Courtney Cox. She was bitchy/brittle/unsexy Courtney Cox (I know, it’s relative, but at that point, for some reason, I found her unattractive).
gay
It seems you developed a fan base there, wf.
In other words, if Joey said them instead.
Exactly.
Game is attitude.
She ate the camera too?
Then women should be on a diet of cameras. Everything else they eat adds hundreds of pounds.
She must have about 10 cameras pointing at her then.
I think we have found Nigel’s end boss.
LMAO. I get the reference.
surprised, lol
Sweetheart, Michael Clark Duncan is still dead.
That thing is as large as the titanic and appears to have her sights set on taking as many people down with her as humanly possible with her stupidity.
if today was the last day of the world (heh), i don’t think anyone would pork that beast
*even if
She needs a lot of words to really write “I’ve given up and it shows”.
Her jugs have their own side-cleavage, for fk sake.
I guess as you get fatter, your shape becomes fractal, sporting additional cranstons all over the place.
Make it stop, please.
Fractal…
yes they seem to develop new cleavage and new butt cracks just as in those Mandelbrot animations
We have a new term – Fractal Fattie.
Thank you Canadian Friend!
To be fair, it was Ashur who first said fractal
“Did you see that fat girl?”
“Yeah, what a set of Mandelbrots. I’m sure her ass has gone fractal as well.”
That fat creature’s high self regard is not entirely hamster-driven. It is, unfortunatley, somewhat reality-based. Repulsive barely-huan-looking bags of jiggling lard can get cock from tall, muscular, dominant — and well tanned — men whenever they want to.
THAT is why lower class feale obesity exploded in the early 90s. Eve if a given fattie sticks with white cock, her market value is inflated by even fatter women.
The real harm done by this sort of effusion is to change the scale of what’s reasonable. A “normal” fatty who would suffer respectable shame in rigtheous cultures will now be marginally more likely to say to herself “I’m not that bad!” thus changing the center of gravity (heh) of claimed feminine pulchritude.
This is the same kind of nonsense that the left promulgated for years. Having Castro lovers and academic Marxists running around spouting nonsense made it possible for treasonous “liberals” to claim that they were marginally left of center.
Same technique for the greens.
Sadly it seems to have worked. The US is more leftist, beta, and fatter, than it’s ever been in history.
Sic transit gloria mundi.
Wise words.
“The US is more leftist, beta, and fatter, than it’s ever been in history.” And the sad thing is there is no way back from this abyss.
OT
Omega Pickup
http://i46.tinypic.com/30vkbcg.jpg
Alpha Pickup
http://i46.tinypic.com/28s4gfr.jpg
Virginity is for losers
http://i48.tinypic.com/33mnzag.jpg
The last picture encapsulates the hypocrisy of modern Churchianity perfectly.
I cringed @ first pu attempt.
She’s hideous.
However, I need to point out the fact that Narcissus was a man.
The reason ignoring them doesn’t work is because they still get nailed. I know it’s hard to believe, but even that wildebeest can hit the bars and get laid after a few nights. You would be shocked at how many men would go home with her over the course of a month of bar hopping.
I’ve never understood it myself. Even in the middle of long dry spells I’ve never banged something that looked like that. Fat repulses me. I literally can’t get it up for fat. But most of my friends have, at one time or another, banged a fattie.
Yeah, the land whale gets dumped the very next morning. But she still gets some. Her hamster can continue to tell her she’s beautiful and desirable and no one will commit because ‘men are pigs’ (all the while missing the irony). Her hamster never lets her realize they won’t commit because she’s a sweaty hog. Most women never truly understand the difference between a pump-n-dump and commitment. To them if you’ll put it in, then there’s nothing wrong with them that would prevent you from committing. If you don’t commit then there’s something wrong with you.
So no, ignoring them will not work. But I don’t know if shaming will work either. The shields projected by their hamsters could protect the Death Star. Just read her post again. What power on Earth could possibly overcome delusion of that magnitude?
“Most women never truly understand the difference between a pump-n-dump and commitment. To them if you’ll put it in, then there’s nothing wrong with them that would prevent you from committing. If you don’t commit then there’s something wrong with you.”
Unfortunately, it is very true. If women knew the difference, they wouldn’t let you put it in so quick.
I’d also like to get H’s perspective on the upcoming television program Double Divas.
http://www.mylifetime.com/shows/double-divas/video/season-1/episode-1/double-divas-preview
My wife and I both did spit-takes when we saw that promo. The fat one looks like she’s going to be the power-behind-the-hamster.
Sweetheart, not one looks like your masturbatory idol, Michael Clarke Duncan. What gives? have you forgotten him already?
Please crawl back under your rock.
lol Sweetheart.
Michael Clarke Duncan deserved to die.
Saturated fat does not cause heart disease, kill you, or make you fat.
And your wife is cheating on you. Probably with the same BBC you take up your ass.
Really? You’re gonna start this bullshit again?
Bitch, it never ended. Bitch.
lol
Dude I have never been more certain of an Internet bros latent homosexuality and obsession with interracial sex
Yes, Sweetheart does have that showing on him. Too bad his mannish “wife” doesn’t see it.
lame
yeahokcool
Dude I have never been more certain of an Internet bros latent homosexuality and obsession with interracial sex
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Yeah I noticed that too.
Actually its worse:
homosexuality
interracial sex
AND
Rape
No matter how you mix those together, the result is ugly.
I see a mass shooting event in this guys future.
*be advised*
Looking at that picture reminds me of what I used to look like to women when I was a NiceGuy™.
Dude, excellent point. That’s a future Heartiste post, I guarantee it.
wrong
In the spirit of the season, I bring the gift of song. These lyrics are sung to the carol “Oh Christmas Tree, Oh Christmas Tree.” Bonus if you can hear these sung in the voice of Johnny Mathis:
“Obesity, obesity
Oh-oh-oh-ohhhhh-oh-besity
Oh you so fat
You a real wide load
Your fanny has
Its own ZIP Code
Obesity, obesity
Oh-oh-oh-ohhhhh-oh-besity.”
By way of editorial, I’m surprised no one has brought up the Ancient Internet Wisdom that “Tits on a fat chick are like washboard abs on a super-skinny guy. They don’t count.” So I got that for ya, too, Merry Christmas!
LOL! I made up this exact song to that same tune years ago, but the opening lines were better. Mine were:
Obesity, obesity
You’re so damn fat, you sicken me
I found her eHarmony profile.
It read: “Body Type: ABOUT AVERAGE”
Ah… eHarmony. So politically correct that it relegates looks to a minor concern, and is full of desperate fatties and betas.
On that site, I wouldn’t be surprised if her body type is about average.
“About Average” for what? The ghetto????!!
About average… for you.
Fat shamer! Back to feminism class for you!
About average is a BMI over 25.
About average for the County Fair Blue Ribbon Farm Extravaganza.
This is about average? That’s ridiculous. Especially when you consider the options on Match to describe body type are the following:
No answer
Slender
Big and beautiful
Curvy
About average
Athletic and toned
Full-figured
Heavyset
A few extra pounds
Stocky
Out of these ten options, there are only two (“slender” and “athletic and toned”) that have any kind of positive connotation.
“Curvy” used to, before hippotamic land-masses corrupted it.
And now “about average” has been arrogated as well. That’s the descriptor I used to use because of its modesty: you look decent, but you’re not a supermodel. You’re about average! However, if the average pant size in the U.S. is 12-14, I guess she could be technically correct…
Yes. Nowadays, “average” != “good.”
After all of those rants about beauty culture she goes on to describe herself as”hourglassy” and mention her complexion and hairless body. WTF
I get it now. I really get the hamster thing.
Come the actual Apocalypse, it might be usefull to have a few of her type around should the need arise for more soap to be made.
I wouldn’t know how to rape this broad, that’s how fat she is.
dumb
your mom.
YOUR mom. Oh, boy. You sure loved her, didn’t you.
This beauty is buddies with Kate Harding: http://www.xojane.com/author/marianne
Kate Harding is the plump feminist author of the recent “Fuck you MRAs” screed on jezebel.
Anybody surprised?
No, and here is the title of the porky pair’s book: ” Lessons from the Fat-o-sphere: Quit Dieting and Declare a Truce with Your Body.”
Imagine buy that for someone as a Xmas gift.
We know why you do it. Those who don’t, can’t. No need to splain it out, monsieur.
Catering to the inflated self-esteem of unhealthily fat, narcissistic women is a savvy business model. It wouldn’t surprise me that XO Jane published that navelgazing tripe for no other reason than boosting its page views. That sort of thing is attractive not only to other fat narcissists, who are probably disproportionately unemployed and hence freer to waste their time on online mental rot, but also healthier people who can’t resist gawking at human train wrecks. It’s probably a win-win for the publisher.
Sickeningly, there are now reality shows on the same topic. In addition to “Double Divas,” which was mentioned upthread, there is a revolting show on one of the trashy cable channels called “Big Sexy,” featuring obviously insecure BBW’s trying to make themselves look sexy but succeeding mainly in making themselves look narcissistic. As it happened, the women I saw on the teasers for “Big Sexy” were significantly thinner and more shapely than our “awesome” essayist; I assume the producers didn’t want the aesthetics to become so grotesque and absurd as to repel the audience and cost the network its ratings.
I have trouble imagining women with real personalities or interests making asses of themselves by publicly wallowing in something as shallow as their obesity, except maybe as a calculated mercenary thing (possibly what the Honey Boo Boo family is doing). It has to be an exceptionally soul-sapping act to keep up if one is at all self-aware or thoughtful. It’s helpful in that kind of work to be, for lack of a better concise term, stupid. And with the wonders of the internet and cable television, a geographically dispersed audience of unmotivated, hugely fat women can be brought together and momentarily lifted out of their ennui with inspiring stories of other women who used their obesity and rather insipid personalities to gain fame.
It’s Jerry Springer for fatties. And the audience, so to speak, is growing.
Nature tends to weed out such outliers, regardless of ill guided cultural pressures.
About small breasts. One of the women I have known had small breasts, almost flat chested. She had a beautiful female body in all other respects, and not some skinny androgenous body type either. And, toned and fit.
Sigh.
Anyway, she got pregnant and had a child. Her figure, 3 months after having the kid, was just as good as ever. Her breasts, and her body, were the same as ever. Who could ask for more?
Who could ask for more? Me. Bigger tits would have been nice, I’m a bird watcher.
“Hey baby, imma tell you a joke so funny your tits will fall of… Never mind, you already heard it.”
I’d hit that.
It should all equal out. Nine months of eating 300 extra calories a day during pregnancy to feed the baby and then nine months to a year of breastfeeding that burns up to 300 calories a day. You should end up where you started.
Oh jesus i wasn’t prepared for that image…
One thing i know for certain, if somebody needs to proclaim to the world how much they love themselves and how secure they are in their own body, it is because they are deeply insecure and unhappy. The person who is genuinely happy with themselves simply does not have those issues on their mind.
This warpig needs to lose 100 pounds and be happy, rather than inflicting her misery on the rest of society.
Agree fully with the premise of the article, if we accept and encourage this type of body image it’s doing a terrible disservice to humanity. People simply are not healthy at that weight, and the costs of obesity are growing rapidly. If it requires shaming them into losing weight then so be it.
As for newyorker’s comments that it comes easily for some not others, i call bullshit as someone who has lost a lot of weight (the one caveat being that 1% of the population that have legitimate medical issues such as with their thyroid). Genetics have a significant effect once you get towards natural limits (ie very lean, or your natural limits for muscle mass). Genetics simply do not prevent you from being in a normal weight range, that is all mental. I’m just sick of that excuse for obese people because it is complete rubbish. They are obese because they eat too much and don’t move enough, it’s as simple as that.
Funny, because overeating is completely unnecessary.
If you get the right # of calories each day and manage the density of the ones you get, you should never feel hungry enough to screw up.
I’ve gotten to ~8% bodyfat, and it’s not as difficult as you think. It just takes time and discipline.
Exactly. I use the perfect example of chicken and chips. a 4 oz piece of white meat chicken has about 120 calories. A handful of about 10 potato chips has about 120 calories. Which do you think is going to fill you up more, be more satisfying and take your body longer to process, leaving you feeling full longer?
I know this chick, just made 30, hitting close to 300 lbs. Fug in the face, gross in the body. The only reason I’d rate her a 2 is because she has four limbs, properly proportioned, doesn’t smell bad, and doesn’t wear clothes made for a woman half her size. Four kids, three of whom have developmental issues (the fourth is too young to be tested yet) so maybe four, on CHOLESTEROL MEDICATION and has been for years (so you’re 20-something on meds normal reserved for the average 60-something), broke as joke living in a dirty trailer, talking about getting gastric bypass (lap band, dummy) because, and I quote, “Ive tried everyyyyyyyyyyyything to lose weight and nothing works.” ordering cakes and confections from me. Eats fried chicken, four cheese pasta, cheesecake, etc., on a very regular basis, leads a very sedentary lifestyle. The last time she brought it up, I just flat out told her, “We’ve already talked about your problem. It’s your poor diet and sedentary lifestyle.” You can imagine I got NO response until a few days later, she commented on my site about something I made for someone else and then ordered it. She won’t go walk the FREE walking trail at the local park, she won’t buy a 10.00 workout DVD and do it in her home, she won’t take 35.00 a month and join the local gym with none of the fancy amenities that’s only there for people to work out and not act like it’s a spa day, she won’t take responsibility for anything in her life. I’ve actually refused to take her order for some things and she keeps coming back.
I feel so sorry for her ‘husband’. Been with her for 10 years, and I’ll bet if I got him alone, he’d admit to being miserable and regretting his decision to stay with her so long but now feels trapped by four kids. Sad thing is he has a decent job, (chooses to work nights so he doesn’t have to deal with her too much (she’s a SAHM, and not much of one at all)) and he’s a really nice looking guy. About 6’1″, nice build though he could stand to lose about 40 lbs, and can actually hold a conversation. I swear, if I knew some single chick who had no qualms about screwing up their family, I would introduce them. That’s how much I can’t stand that fat, ugly, irresponsible bitch.
people who are fat and eat the worse food and refuse to do anything about their excess weight are like heroin or crack addicts; they are self destructing/self mutilating, they are committing slow motion suicide
I understand what they do is addictive and hard to stop but it is them who chose to do it and keep doing it, no one put a gun to heir head
They are doing it to themselves, they are not victims ( except maybe a very tiny percentage who may have hormonal or other problems that keep them over weight)
It is hard to have empathy for people who chose to self destruct
You don’t have to be raised with self-discipline to learn it. You just have to make a choice to do the right thing for yourself, your family and whatever else is important to you.
It’s not like years and years ago when there was limited information out there; there’s a ton of anything you want to learn. If she chose to, she could search the Internet and find out all she needs to know. The fact is, it’s just not important enough to her and it’s easier to be a victim than to be anything else on Earth. Especially your own victim because you don’t have another person trying to reason with you. You can justify anything you want in your own mind. The chick who wrote this article is just another perfect example of the same.
No, she just doesn’t care enough. She doesn’t even care about the three boys she has, only the girl. Two of them are twins and they are so far behind in learning the school system would not let them attend school this year. Does she take this as an opportunity to start teaching them? Nope. She did take the Newtown school shooting as an opportunity to say, “Gee, I’m so glad I decided to keep the boys out of school this year.”
Then she had the nerve to ask someone else I know whose husband has a really good job and is a SAHM who can afford to do things, “Well, I just don’t understand what my husband is doing wrong.” Really, bitch? You ever think maybe it’s not HIM who’s making poor decisions? But again, it’s easier to be a victim… just this time, she’s his.
Not that I need it much, but she’s just motivation in my life to never become that person.
This.
People who let themselves go like that often have a whole host of problems in their personal life. The fatness is a symptom, which then in turn can become part of the cause.
What you’ve just described is a perfect trainwreck with her hamster in charge of the engine.
Toot toot!
That’s a key word: apathy.
Young women who get fat and have the attitudes of entitled femcunts don’t care.
Young men who remain betas and live in their parents’ basements with no ambition don’t care either.
They’re perfect for each other. And, they aren’t quick to find each other.
Heh… at least it has a eugenic effect on the population.
Meh, another fat woman. She is worth looking at for some men, I have seen many such types eating on videos and getting paid by men fapping to them. Minority of not, these guys aren’t a vanishing minority.
However, I doubt this woman doesn’t give a shit. It seems kind of like she does. People who are really into fat seem to be more into clustering together and enjoying their fat, rather than posting angry rants, but I can’t be sure.
She says there is an oppressive beauty standard. Has anyone been killed for not being beautiful? For being deformed, or obese, or having strange skin coloration? Has anyone been robbed of rights because they don’t fit into the standard? I really want to know. That’s what oppressive means.
These days, “people staring at me” = oppression.
Which makes even less sense when you consider it’s a mostly ‘look at me’ society.
As for the oppression, that’s just another example of making the definition fit what you want the word to mean. Same thing with same sex marriage. There was another comment a few days ago referencing Humpty Dumpty, who’s pretty famous for one line: “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.”
So in the backwards world where things don’t actually mean what you want them to mean, you just throw a fit and act like Humpty Dumpty. Some people need to fall off a wall.
Although technically, you do get lots of perks for being pretty, by everyone, including potential employers, because their judgement of you is not based purely on your character and skills. I guess this isn’t fair, but what we start with in life is never going to be fair. Someone will have better technical talent, some better talking skills, some better looks. If someone is allowed to use their smarts to get ahead in life, why not looks?
You know what to expect from a URL like this:
http://www.fullbeautyproject.com/
Wow, that was like watching a traffic accident. I didn’t want to watch but I couldn’t turn away. I think I need counseling.
Shaking my head in shame =/
Well… it most definitely cannot be called p0rn.
I can’t knock it since the photographer says it’s about freedom of taste, and not trying to promote them as a kind of healthy ideal. As a female, it doesn’t strike me as worse than visible ribs and the ability to easily pass a toaster between someone’s legs. Neither can touch the pin-up type, so I suppose they might as well enjoy themselves if that’s what does it for them.
I’ll take visible ribs.
Most men would. Doesn’t make it healthy. What I’m saying is that though most of attraction is unconscious recognition of health markers, not all of it is. Some of it is about vulnerability/femininity markets and hobbled is hobbled.
Pin-up types with curves in all the right places rule the world over. Even where guys prefer women a bit thinner like France or a bit thicker like in Mexico, there are feminine proportions that scream fertility, and you know them when you see them. Outside that optimal range, society decides what’s an acceptable fetish to have. We’re seeing now a shift towards fat fetish over super-thin fetish because being fat is becoming more common and socially acceptable.
Because of the vulnerability as femininity factor though, I don’t think it will stick any more than the amazon cyborg ideal stuck. Women want to look relatively weak and small because this is what most men like. Healthy is a dude thing. It’s a dude thing I enjoy, but it’s still a dude thing.
8==============D
What I just can not understand is that to become that fat and have a body so disgusting takes years and years – you don’t catch that overnight like you catch a cold or herpes – it is a slow process, a completely preventable slow process , but for some strange reasons as they watched their own body get uglier and uglier it never occured to them to start doing something about it.
they simply let it happen
some of them are so fat they can not even wipe their own ass after they go to the bathroom , yet they go back and order four more big macs with super sized fries
what the hell is wrong with people like that???
I could never let myself go like that and I can not understand how anyone can
a few of those women have nice faces – or rather had nice faces at some point – but they destroyed their bodies
I just can not understand why they do that
It starts with believing that you are already repulsive, and there is nothing to save, or believing that the world is repulsive, and there is nothing to save it for. It’s the same reason people continue to do technically non addictive drugs beyond the point that it is damaging their physical appearance. This accounts for the extremely obese though, not those who are just carrying a bit too much extra.
Most fat women in the U.S. and U.K. are just fatter than they should be for normal reasons like a crap diet, low energy due to a crap diet, and lack of motivation to do much about it, partly due to misinformation or bigger concerns like paying the rent. Most people are broke or close.
It’s hard to motivate people to do things that people who love themselves do when they hate themselves. It is futile to expect people to spontaneously do things free thinkers do when they are socially dependent. It is also misguided to demand that the poor behave as if they are rich.
So, you either reach people at their level or not at all. The media is good at this. I seldom watch television, but the little bit I do in which people on natural diets are portrayed, they are always paranoid health nuts who take things to silly extremes.
The extremely obese are usually either physically or mentally ill or both, so they’re a wash except for experts who specialize in helping them. The vast majority of women who are overly fat just need to see us not portrayed as idiots, especially since the science is on our side.
I’ve been tossing around the idea of writing some fiction that includes people who are incidentally natural dieters. The reality of our lives is so far away from normal people. Even the sex is better. I think I would like to give a go at writing some fucked up strong people with serious endurance erotica.
So true. I would also add that I have friends who are obese specifically because they know it stops men from looking at them – defensive measure brought on by childhood sex abuse. At the end of the day, it’s impossible to help people whose mental state is wrapped up in their physical appearance. Obesity has to be linked somehow to the deteriorating mental health of females in modern society.
Cynthia, I don’t think it’s sex abuse that does it. Sexual abuse drives damn near every real survivor (not feminist “sexual assault” dick sizer turning childhood play, cat calls, or regretted hypergamy into rape) I know to the gym, the mat, or the mountain, not to the all you can eat buffet. If it is so, that survivor is also usually more the tough cookie sturdy sort who just likes to eat, and burns as good as she chugs.
For the regular fat and not seriously sickly obese or strongwomen type, I think it’s simpler. Seems to me that it’s from being essentially rejected and unloved. During the years women should be finding a husband these days, they’re discouraged and/or redirected to value damaging behaviors until they’re past their prime. Men are also being discouraged from selecting for loyalty, so the girls who should be having consistent sex with the same guy who actually gives a crap about them, and then mothering someone, are languishing too long. This is one reason so many are bitter and don’t know why. They would compensate with a good personality, but most don’t know what a good personality is anymore.
So it’s a cycle they get caught up in.
I’m not saying EVERY case of obesity is because of this. It’s one of many triggers that can cause it. Everybody reacts to sexual abuse – especially childhood sexual abuse – differently. Some grow up and raise good families, some turn to homosexuality, some to drugs, some to suicide, and some eat themselves so fat no man will ever want to touch them again. Depends on the person.
I would agree about the rest. There’s definitely an element of self-hatred involved. But why give it that much credit? Some people are simply lazy slobs who do not care, and have been taught from childhood that they don’t have to care, because who is anyone else to judge? Why would their unhealthy eating habits possibly have social consequences.
@Cynthia
I know you and Nicole were discussing something else, but since you mentioned it I want to agree with you that many people who were sexually abused as children become homosexuals.
Many gays and straights alike won’t acknowledge this fact, often selling themselves and the public in general the delusional story that gays were born that way. Therefore, homosexuality is mostly a choice, or a condition that develops early in childhood.
I have sympathy for gays that just want to live their lives quietly without making themselves and their gay relationships public or turning it into a spectacle. It’s the militant gay community trying to push its lifestyle down our throats that I resent. I think they think there is safety in numbers, and turning more people onto the gay lifestyle is definitely one of their aims.
As you mentioned in another comment, you know “our personal choices have consequences for other people”; it’s too bad most gays don’t think of the larger picture. It’s only about them and their selfish needs.
I fear that well-meaning people who stupidly think that gays don’t have rights will help pass same-sex marriage, and homosexuality in turn will become part of the mainstream and seep into our schools. I am sorry to say but most same-sex couple shouldn’t raise kids. Kids really need a father and a mother.
Yup…if you hate yourself you’ll either starve yourself to death or eat yourself to death.
There are jolly fat guys…but how many fat women do you know who are happy? I have yet to meet one. In fact I would argue your hot spoiled entitled princess has a slightly better attitude towards men than fat girls.
My ex is quite large now. She was much happier in her 20′s when she was my cute, sexy girlfriend. Then she changed. She has a pemanent scowl on her face, especially when I’m around. Now she’s fat, embittered, and an alpha widow. I expect her to get bigger.
Initially, it may happen quite fast. I’ve seen perfectly slim girls blow up in the course of just a few months, with them being a number of years in college. For some, it doesn’t take more than a year to actually double in mass. But by then, chances were they already catched a guy in their web.
This is exactly the type of woman who needs to be taught how to eat naturally. In these cases, the reason they were thin is that they were struggling at it, and when they let up a little, because they were always eating crap but now just more of it, they blow up.
If they go natural, there’s no struggling and no blowing up.
I share your sentiments CF. I mentioned in a post a while back, perhaps my low self esteem prevents me from even being mid range in my bmi, I prefer to be on the lower end of my bmi range and only have fat on my boobs and butt. Everywhere else is toned and almost unpinchable but I had a phase of acute stressors where I began emotionally eating. I gained10lbs but because I am short it was significant. I saw myself naked in the mirror one day and that was all I needed to get back to my active lifestyle. I don’t get how anyone can systematically over a period of years let themselves get that fat. I really don’t. Perhaps they are the ones with high self esteem and confidence, perhaps I lack that.
… Perhaps they are the ones with high self esteem and confidence, perhaps I lack that.
Interesting observation
I have always lifted weights and watched my weight – not out of vanity – but in good part because I have a lack of self confidence, and anything on me that could be perceived by others as a flaw or a weakness or a defect affects negatively my self confidence level
it seems indeed that some fat people have too much self confidence and too much self esteem
Some people are perfectionists, and that can comes across as lacking self-confidence. That’s another thing we’re lacking, perfection. Most people are mediocre.
As soon as I opened the link, I x-ed it out. I can’t see it. I’ll admit, ugly people put me in a bad mood and beautiful people put me in a good mood. I’m not a shallow person, as per the liberals. I just like beauty so screw them.
Yesterday at Zumba I asked one of the fat girls how old she is. The real fat ones that eye you wretchedly weren’t there. Two of the slightly less fatties were there. The one I asked told me she is 19. My jaw dropped. I swear she looked 35. Even 26/27 wouldn’t have had me so bewildered, but 19 – wow! And why would a 19-year old girl be this fat? That’s how it starts, so by the time she is 35 she looks like one of those in the link. That’s it! I am not asking anyone anything else. I know enough.
You know, I went to a private high school, not a public school. No one in my class or school was obese. Some kids were slightly full, but most were skinny. I think it’s the public schools that contribute to this. They don’t shame you for misbehaving or for doing drugs or having sex. They say it lowers self-esteem. They try to equalize everyone and make all choices acceptable and on par with true proper behavior, kind of a retarded type of watered-down morality. They take away your drive for competition, achievement, and self-excellence, and instill fake self-worth that shouldn’t be part of you unless you actually merit it. This is the liberal school system in action. This girl had to be at least 60/70 lbs. overweight. I wonder what she thinks when she sees the toned bodies around her. Self-esteem much?
I think fat ages women prematurely. Because, seriously, the effects of aging (the weakening of the underlying collagen/support layers/whatever) are supposedly exacerbated by gravity, and gravity has more to pull on when you’re 50lbs overweight. Or maybe it’s a combination of unhealthy diet/lack of exercise/stressed body that does it.
Huh. I went to a private school, too. We didn’t have too many fat girls – and the ones who were were typically first-generation Mexican-Americans or country-club tennis brats. Never really thought about that.
Being malnourished ages people prematurely. Whether they’re fat or skinny, not getting enough of what your body needs, even if you’re getting too much of what it doesn’t, ages you. It’s just that as I mentioned before, super thin was a more socially acceptable fetish, so old raisins get more action than old prunes. Women who look young get more action than either though.
So rather than worry about stuff you’ll never have to worry about, and along the way of convincing your fat friends to eat better, make it very clear that it’s important to eat well to age well. Old hippie vegetarian chicks look like crap if they don’t do fermentation and at least get some micromeat.
If they don’t do it to get rid of the excess subcutaneous flesh, maybe they’ll do it for the surface.
I’m finding that difficult to masterbate to.
Yup… I too have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that I am not a chubby chaser.
I also think the brain rots if you don’t exercise your body enough. I always feel like I can’t think as quickly if I take even a few days off from the gym.
I know what you mean. I also sense a cognitive slowing when I’ve missed a week or so of lifting.
I always feel more alive when I lift weights regularly
the mind benefits as much as the body from regular exercise ( and not eating like a pig )
Methinks she doth protest too much.
The fatties usually have never had to learn any sort of discipline and perseverance, usually from childhood up. And then when they balloon upward in weight, they probably even try to lose it at some point or two or three.
The problem is that, without experience doing difficult things and accomplishing goals, they have no well to draw from to lose the weight. They go into their attempts to slim down with the wrong plan, the wrong mindset, and then give up too soon when results are not instantaneous (thanks mass media and consumer society).
Next, their brain has to now rationalize their failures, their inability to do what it takes, why they do not measure up. So you have (1) a growing fat acceptance movement, (2) the constant moaning motif about it being “genetic”, and (3) shifting goal posts in what people see as “normal.” The hamster has moved out of the psyche and into society at large. Cows like this simply feed it.
I was injured playing sports back in my 30s. Doctors could not figure out what was wrong and it was bad enough that my physical activity dropped like a rock. Though my diet was “okay”, it was as such that the pounds started packing on. I eventually ballooned up to about 225lbs (5’9″). I looked like shit, knew it, but felt terribly constrained in terms of what I could do about it. Eventually, I gave up on even trying to stave off additional pounds with long walks. I felt that if there was no diagnosis on the injury and if even moderate physical activity was painful, I had no choice to be face up to being fat in my middle age. I knew from where that problem came, I did what I could do to mitigate it, that was not going to be enough, my options dwindled, and I was NOT happy about it. I was fat, knew it, and was pissed, even a little depressed.
One day I tore an abdominal muscle working in the yard, saw a doctor, was scheduled for surgery. They found a double hernia. Fixed it. Once I healed I decided to see if the surgery also fixed the old injury. I started doing weights, walking more, etc. When I found out that the old injury seemed to have been fixed, I radically adjusted my diet, committed to a workout regime and dropped 55lbs and put on lots of lean muscle. At 45, I look pretty damn good now. Though I was not totally responsible for all of my fat gains (I did have a legit injury and saw about 10 doctors, none of whom could figure out what was wrong), once I had an opportunity to lose it, I committed to that with gusto and did what it took to fix it.
My point is that if I had not learned the rewards of discipline and determination from my past (I have a Ph.D., I’ve weight trained before, used to play organize sports, etc.) I would not have had the reserves to draw on when it came to committing to getting back into reasonable shape.
Our society as a whole is one of comfort, narcissism, easy access to calories, trophies for all the kids, orgies of self-esteem building, etc. So not only have things like mass media and feminism warped women’s understanding of the world, but also the spoiled lives people live lead them to be totally clueless in terms of what it takes to be in shape and stay that way. Since it is hard and requires work, it is easier to rationalize it away. And because there are so many people in the same boat, it is not hard to find a chorus of “you go girl” supporters, all looking for the same justification for needless corpulence.
And the Hamster gets fatter and spins faster by the day. But only now it has escaped its cage and is running amok across society.
Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2laIPeiMtE
A transformation in a matter of months that would seem miraculous.
Again, one should not expect people who do not love themselves to behave as if they love themselves, people who can’t think for themselves to think for themselves, or people who are poor to behave as if they are rich.
Pontificating to people who have to make due on less of a whole lot of things than you do is useless.
Has she reached t-rex status when it comes to wiping her butt? *shudders at the thought*
Moo.
Female hypergamy is not an “animal”; it’s a machine. A cold machine, which silently computes which is the best male. For it, it doesn’t matter the feelings or the male intentions, it matters only the status male.
It didn’t mattered how I loved women, it only mattered that I was not an alpha male. So the machine inside women mind computed that I am not worthy as a partner for that woman. Learning the game means learning to drive that machine.
Bravo. Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
I understand the mayor of Lakehurst has awarded her the key to the city… one of the perks therein is free lifetime docking.
Greg, I think that reference went over the heads of the younger crowd here; but Its a good one.
“oh the humanity…”
Yes, indeed, she does care. This person has an eating disorder:
http://www.xojane.com/healthy/its-time-to-admit-it-im-totally-back-in-the-eating-disorder-game-but-not-the-one-you-think
Lets not be so mean here. She accepts her body because the alternative lead her to diet herself up to 300 lbs (yo-yo loop is a bitch?..)…
Nonsense.
Control what you eat and the amount while maintaining moderate physical activity.
Dieting yoyoing happens because you go too extreme one way and your body bounces back hard.
Eat moderately, avoid the rich carbohydrates and sugars, eat healthy foods and slim is in. No dieting. You can even splurge when you want to and still keep a healthy weight.
Self-indulgent piggery, such as what this sow engages her snout in, should be ridiculed.
Cries of “it’s not my fault” are only true when someone else held them down and force fed all that shit into them. I don’t see her claiming that, do you?
From what I understand, an eating disorder can mean you can’t eat normally. You either not eat, or overeat. If you reached a point where these dieting attempts lead to long term weight gain, it’s irrational to go on exactly as you did the last 20 years (if you’re honest with yourself and this is really the problem). It means you have no control over your eating habits, time for a major change.
Your first suggestion is good (no dieting + healthy food), second one (ridicule)… wouldn’t count on it solving this woman’s issues.
[Heartiste: Most of the fat fucks who got that way in the past 50 years in America are not suffeirng from inherited eating abnormalities. They just stuff too much food in their mouths. And, no, low-fat pastries are not a healthy diet.]
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j2laIPeiMtE
Here is a man not suffering under an atomic powered hamster.
“eating disorder” is a hamster term for, “I’m too self indulgent to actually exercise any rational self control while stuffing my snout because it feels good”
Even men can suffer that under the whips of that hamster, even though we know better.
No, I believe there really are few actual eating disorders, although I’d accept real evidence to the contrary. I know that a lot of the heavily processed foods are making “eating disorders” a more common problem. Once I cut down on that crap, my “eating disorder” disappeared completely.
Imagine that.
The kind of eating disorder most western people have is triggered by being off feed. If you eat crap food (example hydrogenated oils, white sugar) or foods you are not adapted to handle (example, Europeans eating plants in the nightshade family that originated in the Americas) it breaks the mechanisms your body would use to tell you when you’ve had enough calories. It is almost as if you have a genetic disorder, as certainly your pancreas and liver aren’t doing what they should to prevent over stretching of your stomach.
Stomach capacity increases when people are not getting enough nutrients in the food they eat. So it is much more important to teach people how to eat properly than it is to scold them to eating less. The latter is ineffective whereas the former is extremely effective.
…it is much more important to teach people how to eat properly than…
I’ll give you this, but people know this already. So why are they not doing it?
I don’t know what people you’re talking about. I don’t know anybody who isn’t explicitly and consciously a natural dieter of some sort who actually knows things like canola oil are bad for you. They’re still talking a lot of low fat, low cholesterol, grains are always good for you garbage.
Your words will hopefully be the stomach staples some reader needs to not recreate this sad illusion of self worth.
Shes white, so I don’t get why did this to herself. Our finest move is publicly promoting people in the form of a demotion and calling it empowerment.
“this girl is so powerful for being raped and talking about it!”
The people that actually matter note that person as a fucking freak and move the fuck on. It’s the same with anything that shatters the perfect forms of market interest. It’s cold. It’s calculating. It’s _fair_.
Also – for the record, people with mental problems who tout them everywhere as “depression” or an “eating disorder” sadly get the brunt of the hatefuck level spite that comes with the broadcast of that malady BECAUSE of these loud unfixables like this level 900 raid boss dirigible.
Your reality is always your prison, and every word you say against your dreams is another fucking brick in the wall.
I hope she finds these words so potent they catch fire her soul and the flame melts her fat away.
I am tired of seeing walking prisons in the terms of folds, dowdy looks, and distraction camoflauge (really people you color your hair so you hide the fact you have acne? sleep on a fucking towel or wash your fucking sheets for christ sake) or just get out of the game.
As I was reading your post I couldn’t help but wonder how that woman would respond to waking up one day to having a flat stomach, bony hips, toned arms, and stretch mark-free breasts, only to wake up in her real body a few days later.
probably by suicide.
Since she’s celebrating vanity let us cater to her ego by using her pic in a Fat Girl Meme.
It’s only a matter of time.
I always love when fat fucks accuse skinny people of having an eating disorder. As if being so disfiguringly fat is not…
LOL! pretty soon they’ll put pressure to make a BMI of 18.5 or 19 anorexic.
BMI is a good system for goal-setting, let’s not mess with it any more, hm? I’m just under 21 right now, but I’m slimming right now. My ultimate goal bmi is 19.
That’s the typical fatty re-frame: healthy slim girls are “anorexic” while the fat fucks are “normal.”
I kind of agree with your stance here, but just to point it out, aren’t you employing the same “shaming tactics” that you accuse feminists of using against men here? Correct me if I’m wrong.
I’m sure CH doesn’t need me to defend him, but I can’t help but point out the obvious to you. He is engaging in something similar, BUT there is one big difference. Obesity is not normal; it’s not how nature made us. It’s the result of nurture. Nurture can be changed.
On the other hand, men and their sexuality is part of their nature, so to shame them is totally futile, if not downright hateful. Stupid or hateful feminists refuse to accept reality and try to shame men into turning to something they say they prefer. But screwing with men’s sexuality only renders them unattractive to women. So what feminists say they prefer, is delusional or downright diabolical.
I honestly believe there are some feminists looking to make men obsolete. They think if they do, then nature will cancel them out and render them unnecessary so there will be only one sex (female) in a few thousand years. What’s the name of that horrid feminist who asked if men are necessary? Maureen Dowd? Yet, ironically she always cries about how she was never able to find a man to marry. Can she be more delusional? Who would come near her with her hateful attitudes and delusional drivel?
More to the point, it’s make the betas unnecessary, but keep the alphas. But it really is true at the end of the day that nawalt.
Well, men should go back to being alpha – listen to their inner voice – not the feminist culture. Women too, should listen to their inner feminine voice, not the idiotic feminists leading them astray.
However, getting rid of the betas is not what this shrill feminist has in mind. She wants all men to disappear; she holds great resentment against them.
Catherine Zeta Jones stole Michael Douglas away from Maureen Dowd. Anytime an article by Dowd is posted at Free Republic, it is policy that a slew of sexy Zeta Jones pics is posted in the comments section. That is the cold hard reality for feminists like Dowd.
Ha, ha, ha……..I had no idea. That’s pump n’ dump in action.
All I know is that Catherine didn’t sleep with him right away like he’s used to. She took her sweet time letting him touch her. Smart girl.
A nigger would totally hit that.
Yeah, but there are white men who would pay cash to fuck her while she ate a sandwich.
I thought I had my masters in “Honkeyology”; then I discovered internet porn.
Somebody is paying to view this material and it ain’t niggers. (cause niggers are broke)
Grannies, hollowco$t victims, midgets, amputees… when it comes to sex, white people boldly go where no man has gone before.
Not hatin, just sayin.
It’s why they conquered the world.
Don’t bother trying to understand white people, thwack. We’re beyond your limited comprehension.
I thought I had my masters in “Honkeyology”…
Nice to see that the curriculum at Howard is expanding… and more demanding these days.
Paying for porn? who pays for porn?
There are plenty of free sites on the internet
At Xhamster for example there are more videos than I could watch if I did that all day 24/7
and they are all free
and why would white men watch more porn than blacks?
is that another thing you pulled out of your ass thwack?
Which is sometimes why a black guy asking me out is something of a backwards insult. Like, is he calling me fat? (which is horrible of me, but it’s a kneejerk reaction at this point)
Cynthia has got a point
judging from what is available at porn sites, it is black men who are into fat white women,
fucking neggers
cynthia
Which is sometimes why a black guy asking me out is something of a backwards insult. Like, is he calling me fat?
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cynthia, post a photo of a women who resembles your body from the rear and I can tell you whats going on.
While it is true that black males have a greater tolerance for fat on a woman; it is incorrect to assume we are attracted to fat women. I suspect the difference in definitions of “fat woman” between white and black males is part cultural and part evolution based.
In many parts of the world, you only have 2 seasons, wet and dry. In these areas, the ability of a woman to store some extra pounds on her ass and tits could be seen as a good thing since that “dry season” may mean restricted caloric intake for a few months…
There is a reason why camels have a hump; some have two humps.
In addition, for white people, skinny is seen as a strong indicator of youth. White women who stay skinny into there 30s, 40s and 50s… are very proud of it (I had a few of those) and are some of the most vicious critics of fat women; especially young ones.
The white culture is a youth worshiping one. It wasn’t always like that but it is now.
Their obsession with thinness is now a feature, not a bug, because all white woman are guarrenteed to have more than enough to eat.
Just sayin.
White women who stay skinny into there 30s, 40s and 50s… are very proud of it (I had a few of those) and are some of the most vicious critics of fat women; especially young ones.
It used to be Grandma and Mom keeping their daughters thin by shame. In many cases, they’ve relinquished their duty, with disastrous results. Either that, or the young sows think their elders are dolts who are wrong about everything anyway.
Their obsession with thinness is now a feature, not a bug, because all white woman are guarrenteed to have more than enough to eat.
I wouldn’t call it an “obsession” but a healthy concern, since they realize they’ll look like shit if they don’t watch how much they eat, and it is so easy to get fat nowadays.
There’s also some classism going on; if they’re not feminist bulldykes themselves, upper and middle class white women see getting fat as something gross that those lower-class People of Wal-Mart do. If classism keeps them skinny, that’s fine with me.
Corvinus
I wouldn’t call it an “obsession” but a healthy concern, since they realize they’ll look like shit if they don’t watch how much they eat, and it is so easy to get fat nowadays.
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Have you ever heard of anorexia? or Bulimia?
Those are two things white people came up with that I thought were completely crazy until I understood the culture of youth worship and the role thinness plays in it.
I didn’t believe it when I first heard about it.
Later I had a few white female roommates and saw some of the weird shit they ate to lose weight.
One of them would drink what she called “shakes”; those things gave her “the shakes”, fucked up her blood sugar… sloppy drunk off one glass of wine.
You know those Raman noodles?
I caught her eating some of those raw, straight out of the package.
Bless her heart, but she was a mess.
You had white female roommates
are you sure you are not a girl ?
“It used to be Grandma and Mom keeping their daughters thin by shame. In many cases, they’ve relinquished their duty, with disastrous results.”
My, my, my……how things have changed!
Not only they don’t shame their daughters into looking as beautiful as possible in order to catch a husband, but they also lead them astray with feminism bullshit. I have some girlfriends who even mentioned that their own mothers told them to experiment with men sexually and have as many lovers as possible so they can tell the difference between what they like and don’t like sexually. I can’t believe this is the advice some girls are getting form their mothers. My mother was astonished when I told her this. Of course, if I had confided in them what my mother told me they would have called my mom old-fashioned, outdated, and primitive.
Oh, I know it’s about women who have a bit more curve, and not necessarily being attracted to the rolling plains of obesity. I really do.
I have proportionally larger-than-normal T&A (thank you, fucking Viking genes). I was chubby in high school, and I spent a lot of time getting whistled at/cat-called/harassed by Nigerians when I was living in Japan, so I’m a little sensitive at this point.
Whats also a backhanded insult is when fat white women and fat women in general initiate an interest in you because they assume that you would accept them because you are black. Like,do they think all black men like fat bitches? Some of us actually have better taste and choose or persue accordingly despite the stereotype that’s prejudged on the group. And I have seen guys with big girls that i know could do better. But hey, take em off the market. One less guy in the game.
Man the harpoons!
I bought a new pair of four inch high-heeled shoes today. Why is it that wearing high heels makes me feel so feminine? They’re almost addicting…
Work it!
To fully answer that question, we need a pic of you in them whilst wearing a bikini.
Post and we can talk.
I’d settle for a pic of her in a little tight black dress
When I get home from holiday visiting I’ll post a picture. Hold me to that if you like. I don’t promise to be the best you’ve ever seen, but I’ll be well-dressed, not fat, and mid-20s.
High-heels, sexy lingerie, makeup, intoxicating perfume, pencil skirts, tight black dresses, pretty sheer tops – they all work magic. Think about it; it’s like wearing a costume and going on stage to play a part in a play. All of a sudden you become that character.
Likewise, if you never wear feminine stuff, it’s hard to feel feminine and act feminine. You start losing your sexual identity if for years you’re not looking like a girl. So enjoy the heels, and buy more stuff.
Pay attention to how feminists look – short hair, overweight, no lipstick in sight, flat shoes, pants suits. Yuck all the way!
form-fitting > revealing
I differ from you there. Being sexual and feminine are constant, dominant traits in me, not a role I put on. Sure, I’m not always consciously thinking of about them when I’m working, grocery shopping, etc. But would I rather have my stockinged feet wrapped around my fiance? Always. I’m just a female who loves the polarity, the sexual tension, that can occur between a man and a woman who play up gender differences.
I don’t mean femininity is a role you need to enter into once in a while to feel like a woman. I mean, by always looking hot you’re constantly reinforcing your sexual identity. You’re always aware of your female sexuality.
I say this because many women opt for comfort and not for sexy. In your original statement you asked:
“Why is it that wearing high heels makes me feel so feminine? They’re almost addicting…”
So I am answering you. Feminine clothing reinforce your femininity. And it even makes the sexual polarity heightened. None gender-specific clothing don’t stimulate the female brain and even reverse the feeling of femininity.
That does make sense. I certainly wear the heels in my relationship. = )
To go on a bit of a tangent, do you think it’s possible to wear high heels most of the time and still be taken seriously as a person and as a woman by those around one?
That’s a super important question because we women struggle with this all the time. We want to look feminine but we also want to be taken seriously. The answer might surprise you. I think looking feminine is more acceptable and respectable than trying to look androgynous, manly, or subdue the feminine aspects of your look. That’s especially more powerful if you’re not an air head, or at least you know your field well. It makes you more interesting and alluring when you have a pretty female look (not sleazy) and you also know your stuff.
Therefore, it doesn’t mean you can wear to work Fredrick’s of Hollywood high-heel stripper shoes, like this
http://www.fredericks.com/PEEP_TOE_PUMP/12558,default,pd.html?cgid=sh4&defaultOpt=true&all1=all
or this
http://www.fredericks.com/Trina_Pony_Hair_Bootie/12554,default,pd.html?cgid=sh6&start=24&sz=12&all1=all
These are a bit too risqué for work. It’s not appropriate. LOL!
But there is nothing wrong with this pair
http://www.fredericks.com/Basic_Patent_Platform_Pump/12462,default,pd.html?cgid=sh58&defaultOpt=true&all1=all
I’d wear it to work. However, if you don’t feel comfortable with such a high heel, you can do a shorter heel, which makes it less sexy, and still look feminine.
The point is you can adjust it to your comfort level and to your needs and setting. Everything has a time and a place. Just don’t try to look none gender-specific or play down your femininity too much on purpose. And the worst thing is looking manly. That’s why you see feminists cutting their hair short and wearing pants suits and flats.
This goes for everything feminine, not just high-heel shoes.
This bitch is crazy. I weep inside for the world. Lying about anything will only detract from having any personal freedom in this world. Look at the way she argues in circles yet it’s clear she knows on some level that she is disgusting inside and out for what she perpetrates on the world. If your reading this fat lady, no that what you sow you reap. You sow delicious insecurity, you reap soul raping insecurity.
Oh I no.
You guys missed the best part.
This behemoth has a “make out list”. Her “list” has David Motherfucking Bowie on it (as well as a boy who wasn’t legal when he starred in his first movie.) She isn’t shooting for the moon, she’s trying to reach escape velocity from the entire solar system.
david bowie isn’t constrained by the artificial sexual orientation limits imposed by the heteropatriarchy. i wouldn’t be surprised if he’d dump a load in that thing.
Right.
David Bowie fucked Mick Jagger, is now married to a black woman; and he performed on soul train back in the day
Dude is a well known trysexual.
He will try anything.
Saying that Bowie would fuck her because he’s a trysexual is like saying that people who eat fried scorpions or capybaras while on vacation would *like, totally* eat feces at home. There are bounds of reason. I happen to like fuller-figured women, but I’m not trying to fuck someone who looks like she’s imagining what I’d taste like coated in teriyaki sauce (which is every woman I’ve ever met who outweighs me.)
Can I add one to the fat-glorification pop culture garbage? I think it’s a nice intersection of female entitlement and fat-pride.
http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/tv/say-yes-to-the-dress/say-yes-to-the-dress-season-2-wedding-dress-pictures18.htm
Best part is that the fiancee spends the whole episode talking about how much he loves her cleavage. Or perhaps how the gay fashion consultant tries not to cringe when describing “bigger brides”.
They also have the spin-off on Netflix, Say Yes To The Dress: Big Bliss.
I wonder how many guys has this ugly girl rejected while thinking “I deserve better”
Is it wrong that I came here this late/early to see that disgusting picture, just for the vomit in the back of my mouth?
had a hard 7 get stationed in new orleans with me. she flaked on my advances back in italy. then she got to new orleans and i hit it the night she got in and stayed at my place.
after 6 months in new orleans she began to put on weight. and NO has some SERIOUS banging girls out there. once she started putting on weight, local guys ignored her. she actually had to buy her own drinks *GASP*.
when she came to me about it (since i’m born and raised in NO) i told her point blank, “you’ve gotten fat, and we have too many hotties out here. now you’re invisible to the local guys. i hit it when you got here and were cute. i wouldn’t touch you now.”
she never spoke to me again. boo hoo hoo.
I often feel like this exchange goes on in the hamster’s mind.
she never spoke to me again. boo hoo hoo.
Reacting like that, rather than saying, “Oh… well, perhaps I’ll lay off the quarter-pounders” and slimming down, shows she has absolutely no humility or self-criticism. NEXT
21 year old Canadian art student:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljnw4pJHHZ1qj0sa6o10_1280.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljnw4pJHHZ1qj0sa6o9_1280.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljnw4pJHHZ1qj0sa6o2_1280.jpg
We used to put people like that in padded rooms.
now in this liberal culture where up is down and night is day, the more fucked up they are the more celebrated they are
Years ago the Canadian government gave many thousands of dollars to an ” artist” who was taking naked pictures of himself with fake blood coming out his ass
that artist should have been institutionalized or medicated but he was rewarded with our tax dollars
and some wonder why I hate liberals…
Nobody should be institutionalized and medicated for being weird, the most unliberal thing is to ignore them.
Right, we should ignore them. Isn’t it what they did with Adam Lanza and look what he did?
ITAW Canadian Friend. The liberal culture breeds nutjobs because it’s too forgiving. It never shames, criticizes, or judges distorted deviant behavior. If society made it clear such behavior is not acceptable or proper and you are a freak, then many would stop, save the really crazy ones. So once we can isolate the real nutjobs we’ll know who to lock up. Goodness!
Yes, locking someone up before they do anything like threaten, say they will do something bad, is morally wrong and you’re an idiot for agreeing. If you agree, who is the perfectly impartial person you’d like to award with the power over whether you remain free, or get locked up and have your brain slowly destroyed by chemicals? And who gets to decide what is “crazy” behavior? Your family? What if they decide you’re being too quiet and need to be locked up, because being quiet is a sure sign of someone harboring murderous plans?
And once you give those perfectly impartial people the power to lock you up without as much as doing anything wrong, who’s to stop the government from locking up political dissidents?
You see, when you talk about locking people up “to prevent massacres”, you never think it will be happening to you. But in my country, you (yes, you) might already be in jail under psychaitric investigation for some of those things you might have said on the internet and forgot.
Some massacres could not have been prevented, lets leave it at that. If you’re ok with locking up anyone who is “weird”, you’re like a feminist who is ok with jailing men for rape without evidence, because “it prevents rape, it’s good for women”.
All I know is Adam Lanza’s mother tried to lock him up a few months before he murderedm, but the ACLU helped him stay out. The ACLU talks like you using bogus reasoning.
And…..I’m not talking about “impartial people” deciding who goes to the loony bin and who stays out and catching some poor harmless kid who acts out and locking him up. I mean there has to be a way to evaluate real crazy people who really need to be locked up.
Now there is also info Lanza was a Satanist. Satanists were implicated in many grotesque murders. If that’s true, it proves my point. You would never advocate locking up Satanists, right? I do, at least watching them closly. When you’re as crazy as Adam Lanza was, locking him up was a must, not a choice.
http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2012/12/23/satan-worship-motivated-sandy-hook-killer-its-been-a-factor-in-numerous-other-mass-killings/
People like you think everyone is harmless. That’s why I said we need to shame people for acting like idiots. Then somewhat normal people will be embarrassed and stop. And the totally normal people will not start because they won’t want to be thought of as losers. That will leave only the crazy people who can’t help themselves. By process of elimination we can see who really needs help. The culture is too accepting. That was my whole point. Not locking up wired people who are harmless.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248782/Adam-Lanza-How-classmates-remember-genius-turned-heartless-killer.html?ICO=most_read_module
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248651/Connecticut-school-shooting-Pictures-children-killed-rampage-revealed.html
Hey, guess what, all you stupid motherfuckers? Marianne’s happily married. Guess your idiotic thesis needs some revision.
Hey dumbass. Nobody here has denied that fat sows like her couldn’t get lots of low-quality dick, or the possibility that she’s married to an omega or a fat fetishist.
This bears repeating, from earlier in ther post:
“Even a 1 can get fucks dumped in her by a drooling parade of Quasimodos.” – CH
To a man who lets her delight in her self destruction. Yeah I’m guessing he wears the cargo pants, fedora, and man purse in the relationship.
It’s not her fat that bugs me quite so much as her cunty feminist attitude. That said, I cannot fathom how guys can get it up for fat bitches. I was friends with one and tried having sex with her and I’m still likely in need of therapy. One lesson I learned was to watch my alcohol intake, cause I do not want to be in that situation again.
“One lesson I learned was to watch my alcohol intake, cause I do not want to be in that situation again.”
Ha ha ha….. I can just imagine the situation unfolding – you and her alone – touching, kissing, caressing the layers, the folds……..
For every fatty there’s a desperate loser who deludes himself into thinking she has “inner beauty.” The question is, where’s your fatty?
I don’t think this is any worse than a desperate loser who dates a hoe and/or harpy because she’s either media hot or legitimately physically beautiful, convincing himself that it’s because she has some hidden inner beauty. I feel more sorry for a man who gets mistreated than I do for a man dating someone who’s any kind of physically ugly.
The female equivalent would be dating an alpha with a wandering eye while telling one’s self that she’s different and he’d never cheat on her.
Wasn’t there a scene in the movie “Precious” where Mariah Cary scolds the fat girl:
” you can either be thin and mean, or fat and happy; but you cannot be both fat and mean!”
That was interesting.
It is true.
One of my bros has a neurological problem that causes him to have Parkinson’s like shakes. When he was younger, he used to be very picky about looks and not picky enough about character. He also had a self pitying type of hostile attitude that most women found “creepy”. Since I found this very odd for a guy, I probed a bit into the whys.
There was a part of him that did not like the idea that a woman would need to be kind in order to like him. It’s a pride thing. Some people resent needing the kindness of others. Usually it’s because that kindness was fake and came with a price.
We’ve worked on this, partly with me leading by example. I show guys nothing but my good side unless or until they wrong me, and then I am gone and/or decisively cruel, depending on what’s needed. I am appreciative, but not a pushover.
A lot of women think being sweet means they will be taken advantage of. They are thinking too far ahead. One can be sweet when it is called for and vicious when it is called for. There is no need to put up a shield or go on the offense all the time, especially since those high walls can blind you to dangers that dig.
I should add that this is because (being well raised) I understand that men are far more nurturing and forgiving of mere physical flaws than they’re sold to be. Men are generally the farthest thing from shallow. Having preferences does not preclude having the ability to love someone who doesn’t perfectly fit within them. Men tend to perceive suitability differently than they perceive beauty so that one overrides and becomes the other in their minds. I think this happens for the same reason most can distinguish love from lust.
So the man actually in love with the ugly woman may well perceive her as beautiful or having enough to turn him on. The man with the nasty or mean woman is another story. He’s actually being made miserable.
Nicole
I should add that this is because (being well raised) I understand that men are far more nurturing and forgiving of mere physical flaws than they’re sold to be. Men are generally the farthest thing from shallow.
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Let me help you with what you are trying to say:
Men are BETTER than women.
*you’re welcome*
I think men are good at what they do and women are good at what we do. Everybody just needs to be clear on what it is they’re supposed to be doing.
Part of what men do better is truly romantic, deathgrip, against all odds love for their mate. Least women could do is not make this too difficult by being the odds and the death.
…happily married.
I’d like to hear it from the hubster saddled with the chubster.
Besides. like another man just said, it’s as much the attitude as the weight that makes women like this truly off-putting.
nugganu
. I was friends with one and tried having sex with her and I’m still likely in need of therapy.
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I THOUGHT I once had a fat girlfriend, but now that I think about it, she wasn’t really fat like this woman who is fat IN THE FACE. The “fat” girl I dated was what I would call “chunky”; but she still had a waist and you could not tell she was fat by looking at just her face.
She was a good fun fuck but I caution you guys about these types because two years later I saw her and was shocked to see she had become huge, ROUND and fully fat in the face.
It was shocking.
Moms and sisters should always be studied for possible clues of how a girls wieght will change as she ages.
Its very easy for a girl to go from cigarette boat to Lead Zepellin.
Which brings us to another aspect off all this – one gets old enough, and with the advent of the internet, to become permanently traumatized by fat chicks, once he beholds what his various former lovers habe become. I currently see two former girlfriends quite often and it always leaves me in an almost despair when I see what has become of them. It is like bits of my past glories are being slowly torn away from me, leaving a gaping chasm where once there were the warm memories of youth and sexual conquest.
I hate my former girlfriemds for getting fat and destroying my youthful experiences like that. Those memories are now permanently replaced with, “dear God, I can’t believe I fucked that…..that….thing…..”
“It is like bits of my past glories are being slowly torn away from me, leaving a gaping chasm where once there were the warm memories of youth and sexual conquest.”
LOL!
You can make something so sober sound so poetic.
Ah, xoJane. A website that somehow managed to out-”class” Jizzabel.
There’s also this [url=”http://www.xojane.com/relationships/the-myth-of-the-perfect-guy”]gem of a woman[/url] musing about the Perfect Guy, along with a list, of course.
Or that [url=”http://www.xojane.com/healthy/sex-ostomy-the-single-girl”]girl[/url] telling us about her intimate moments with her über-beta boyfriend and her colostomy bag.
Fat people bring down plane.
(((shakin my head)))
Thank goodness we have women not men managing the heavy life-or-death social issues of our times. The propaganda is everywhere.
On another note check out this astounding bit of logic i came accross. Fired for being “too sexy”
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/dental-assistant-fired-being-irresistible-devastated-151724600–abc-news-topstories.html
She has horizontal and vertical cleavage.
That s a good one!
I found a copy of “The Mystery Method” at my local public library. Not even joking.
Truly the cocking and desouling of da great books for men & classics.
lolz.
That’s helped bring down the plan, helped. The key figure mentioned is an average 20 lbs increase in weight since the 30s.
As a comment on the OP — yeah, this is the attitude I see most women between 18-30 having. It’s like this unearned ‘everything I do is awesome and I you will never hold me accountable for anything bad I do.’ So this woman’s post is just the next step — ‘we probably can look like shit and still be great!’ Nonsense.
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Update:
So, I had two cool experiences, and I will break them down. None count as cold approaches, though, which really sucks. Before I get to them, just general info: I’m still doing this whole identity thing. The weirdest part about it is that -so many- things make me angry/annoy me. I never focused on it before, but it’s true. And, you know, I guess I’m acting out now…trying to acknowledge my emotions instead of just ignoring them altogether. Resulted in a funny scene the other day at a game where I ended up sitting on the outside of the group — and you know how that is, can’t hear shit. It just pissed me right off, to the point where I was just like ‘this is fucking stupid, speak up goddammit, no one can hear you over here.’ So…just think a lot of little moments like that spread over this past week or two. To my surprise, the reaction of my friends has been more surprise and ‘hey, you okay man?’ type of stuff. I get the feeling that expressing my emotions in a ‘cool’ way will take a lot of time, but whatever, it feels WAY better just being like ‘fuck it this is how I feel right now.’
Experience one:
At a kickback (classic sitch of a get together being advertised as a party and ending up with only like eleven people
), this one girl we all know came, and she’s pretty cool, I kind of like her. She brings three friends — one of them is a clear dyke, the other is questionable, and the other is straight (seems pretty straight, anyway) and a HB 7. So, after everyone says hi to her, I say hi, and we chat for a few seconds. Nothing important here, I’m just being social rather than trying to game.
Then….here it comes…she makes a joke:
“What was your name again?”
BOOM. Laughter all around. She knew my name, and it was a joke. But man….it instantly pissed me off. And yeah, I could have attempted to ignore it, but the first step is just dwelling in the emotion…the second step is learning to properly deal with it. So, before, I would have gone along with it. Instead, I just kind of……well…..
“…man, that really hurts. I really like you. You know who I am.”
“Aw, come on, I’m just kidding.”
“NO. I’M IN LOVE WITH YOU GODDAMMIT! WE ARE…UN-SIMPATICO!”
…then I just rise up from my chair, shake my head, and just walk away. She laughs, they carry on. So, I’m thinking, ‘whatever…’ I told the truth in a sort of jokey way. Check this out…later on, they’re standing away from the main group talking, and I go over there under the guise of pouring wine for someone else (that someone was so drunk they wouldn’t know the difference anyway). So anyway, the girl I’m kind of crushing on is like
“Hey, you know I’m just messing with you, right?”
“My heart was broken then…but that’s all behind me now. I’ve moved on with my life.”
“(nods with a laugh) Okay, good to hear it.”
“YEAH. IT’S REAL FUCKING GOOD.”
At this time, cross-talk happens and the HB 7 comments on the entire party behind us. She says something loud like “they’re all talking in alphabetical order!” Her dyke friend immediately moves to make fun of her, by turning to me and repeating what she said. And I blink…and just nod like ‘YEAH THEY ARE.’ And the dyke is like ‘noooo, she just said it in such a dramatic way.’ And I just put my hand in front of her face and looked at the HB 7.
“They were fucking talking in alphabetical order, for sure, and your friend is a huge fucking hater. Deal with it.”
The HB 7′s mouth drops, and the dyke starts to tag-team me with the other ‘questionable’ girl. In that moment, I felt something I’d never felt in a social interaction — domination. They were insulting me, but there was something different in it — they were supplicating. Trying to prove to me and justify to me that what they did was correct, and that the HB 7 did, in fact, use an overly dramatic tone. My response was almost instinctive, I just pretended not to hear them and danced a little in place, swirling around my cup of wine. HB 7 and my original ‘don’t know your name’ friend start laughing. Then, the HB 7 suddenly steps closer and is like ‘can I have your number?’ No bullshit here, and I saw — I felt! — the attraction radiating from her toward me. I blinked, and before I could say even one word, my original friend pushes her more toward me and is like ‘yeah, get each other’s info…get married…go for it.’ I managed to get her number, but got almost no interaction with her after that…her friends like, swooped in on her, surrounding her like a cockblocking wall. They left 10 minutes later to find a better party. (I wish that the party would have been larger!)
So yeah…what do we make of that? I’m unsure. I’m pretty sure I did like most everything wrong and caught a spot of luck, but I gotta say, it just feels good trying to channel how I feel into something verbal.
Next situation:
At another party — thankfully, this one is a real damned party. So, friend’s girlfriend is an HB 6. I swipe this expensive three-button long-sleeved shirt from one of my friends, pop the collar, and just kind of cruise the party. I wander outside where friend and his gf are there with two other people, including the friend who I jacked the shirt from, and I’m like ‘who the FUCK is out here?’ -Everyone- but her seems unmoved by my entrance, but she laughs. My friend is like ‘hey that’s a nice sweater, you look really good in it.’ I’m like ‘ah, this old thing, you know…I have good taste.’ At this point the HB 6 starts telling me to model the shirt, and you know, I’m like ‘yeah, I guess I can just be a dancing monkey here, screw it.’ So I do it — and I notice that she’s touching me a lot, but I’m just like…’whatever, her bf’s right here, obviously she’s just touchy.’ So, after her finally asking me to turn around to see if I have the right butt to model the shirt (she approves), and I think that’s the end of it.
Later, her bf is nowhere around, but she’s there, and she’s like ‘still popping that collar eh?’ And I’m like, ‘fucking right, you pop the collar when you’re bringing the funk.’ She responds ‘…it’s a real short funk, eh?’
And at this point, I just do the same thing I’ve been doing — and the cool thing is that, what’s going to happen, someone yell at me for saying something offensive? Who gives a shit. So I just stop and look straight at her
‘I will FUCK the shit out of you.’
Her eyes widen and she just laughs it off, then I start dancing — she starts dancing with me. FYI — totally not the kind of dancing bf’s are okay with. In fact, her boyfriend walked in when me and her were near the end of the song. And you know, he laughs — she backs off and is like ‘oooooh, it’s just the shirt, can’t resist it. It’s a great shirt.’ I just sort of nod. Now I’m starting to think something is happening…
More of the night passes, and we end up going to a bar. So our friends are all kind of spread out, and somehow, it ends up that everyone else is either playing pool, ordering drinks, or in the restroom — including her boyfriend — and it’s just me and her. So she looks over at me and is like
“So where’s your girlfriend?”
“Don’t have one.”
“Oh yeah, you’re a pretty hot guy….are you gay?”
See, in my mind I’m like ‘why the FUCK are people saying I’m gay?! Goddammit!’ But I have enough sense to try and process the whole message.
“Are you interested?” is the first thing I can think of. Meh.
She laughs, but I just stare at her. Like….just hardcore stare. She looks away.
“If I didn’t have a boyfriend, yeah probably…”
Then, I just sense that the moment is right and the frame has shifted. So I grin at her and I’m like…
“…hey, it’s okay…I’m gay, remember.”
Instant laugh and her. hand. goes on my thigh (!!!!?!?!?!!!) along with
“…you’re a problem.”
Her hand leaves my thigh, I just shrug with a smile, and then her bf comes back. They leave shortly thereafter.
So….you know….these weren’t cold approaches, but I feel like some dots are accidentally being connected sometimes in some ways
Nice. Keep at it.
She is just cranky because she is out of her habitat.Once she is airlifted (hopefully not at taxpayer expense) and eased back into the Arctic Ocean where she can frolic with other walrus and whales,she wont be acting up as much.
You’re joking, but swimming is great exercise for big women. It takes away the gravity and injury concerns that go with it.
How could I know where I stand in the 1-10 looks scale, without asking people to rate me? How could I self-rate? (I’m a girl)
Post a picture of yourself here. You’ll get an accurate, if brutally honest, assessment here.
girls are notoriously bad at assessing their own looks.
we ignore self-ratings.
Right. There was that girl last month who said she was really hot, but was only a 6 at best. Girls always overrate their own attractiveness.
Waist to hip ratio as close to .7.
BMI in the normal range.
Look like a female.
That would put you in the 7-8 range in America easily.
Funny, I’ve never been obese but the more weight I lose, the more judgmental I am of fat women. I can’t stand to look at them much anymore. It’s vile to think to even think of sex with them.
The kicker for me was having someone with a weight problem posting this on Facebook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9FSZJu448
when she has posted “fat acceptance” BS in the past. If HE can do it, virtually no one has any excuse.
I think I’m going to start responding to all “fat acceptance” pleas with “how many steps can you take before you lose your breath”? And “can you actually manage to chase your toddler into traffic to save his life?
+1 on that youtube link… one could say a former paratrooper has a good foundation of discipline to fall back on, but that was flat-out tear-to-the-eye inspiring.
The more work you put in yourself the more harsh you are on others.
I don’t think this is true. Most very fit people I know are not harsh on others because they are grateful. Granted, when I say fit people I know, I’m talking about mountain climbers, martial artists, fishermen, and people who are very in touch with their mortality.
The girl in the pic that CH posted has a perfect figure: 44-44-44.
Lets please all get together and troll the fuck out of her dumbass blog. therotund.com – i even hate the name of it
I would DIE if I was THAT fat. Oh the horror!!!
Greg Eliot
I thought I had my masters in “Honkeyology”…
Nice to see that the curriculum at Howard is expanding… and more demanding these days.
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Actually Greg, its all the same curriculum: white supremacy.
If you do not understand white supremacy, what it is, and how it works; everything else you THINK you understand will only confuse you.
Merry Christmas
And may all your Christmases be… supremely white.
Amish modesty would improve this hag:
http://www.plainlydressed.com/cart/products.php?cat=23