Leading sociologists like Charles Murray have examined the social phenomenon of cognitive stratification — the generational separating into two classes, or even subspecies, of the smart from the less smart. It’s considered a bad thing (and I agree) because an IQ elite will not just amass an unequal amount of national wealth, but their precious IQ genes will get trapped into a small caste instead of spread to some degree around the general population. There is also the issue of dysgenic fertility among the overeducated women of the cognitively gated class.
The causes for cognitive stratification are manifold, but there’s one very plausible mechanism which I have yet to see discussed by mainstream white knights pundits.
The Southerner writes,
attractive 21 year old white women exist for marriage? By the looks of things they’re all in college capitalizing on their smv, therefore wasting their fertility and become un-marriageable (and untouchable). I don’t think I’ve ever seen a young post high-school white woman not in college and who wasn’t at least overweight.
Can someone tell me I’m wrong?
One of my theories is that female obesity is a big (heh) contributor to cognitive stratification of SWPL elites from other whites. If more working class and lower class women were thinner and sexier, more lower AND higher class men would happily marry them. This is particularly the case for those sassy smart lower class girls who could easily entrance lonely high IQ SWPL bachelors if these girls weren’t all so goddamned fat.
The same goes for single moms, even the thin ones. Men are loath to commit to single moms, sensibly figuring that her little bastards are romance killers and there’s no upside in raising another man’s fly-by-night spawn.
The sub-elite classes are filled with fatties and single moms, and this goes quite a ways to explaining the abandonment of marriage by the men who have these loser women as part of their social milieu.
Unemployed and unemployable men, driven by mass brown world immigration, are doubtless a factor in declining marriage rates among the cognitive outcasts, but due diligence should be paid to female obesity and single momhood as equal, if not greater, contributors to the decline in social stability of non-elite whites. The only reason I can think that this tenderhearted Heartistian worldview is studiously overlooked is because it gives conservatives the hives to shift some blame onto women and their poor life decisions.
[…] Cognitive Stratification And Female Obesity […]
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Like the tagline for Aliens vs Predator:
“Whoever wins…we lose.”
(Also, title of that movie has so many plays on words politically!)
“I don’t think I’ve ever seen a young post high-school white woman not in college and who wasn’t at least overweight.”
double negatives make my head ache. could someone re-phrase this quote in a simpler sentence, please?
“The young post-high school white women I have seen, the ones who weren’t in college, were at least overweight.”
I agree there is a need for the elites to start paying attention to CH’s ‘boots-on-the-ground’ accounts of the realities of the sexual market and put some scholarship into the issue. Like it or not, elite opinion drives discourse on public policy.
I wouldn’t lump Murray in with the odious White Knights. He made his bones with Losing Ground in 1984 – that was before the literal explosion of obesity from its historical baseline to the disaster it is today. Help yourself the CDC and NHANES data if you want to see the ugly trends in graphic form.
That said, if there is one person who could focus attention (read: institutional liberal hatred) on the modest, libertarian-leaning point of view and associated policy proposals, he’s the one. Bring it on!
How is processed rubbish less expensive than fresh produce? Why aren’t pleb class kids being taught how to cook and eat while in school? Basic health and home ec? It’s almost as if they WANT the lumpenproles to be land whales so that they have the pick of the alpha males.
Its a maladaptation. We evolved when calories were scarce. They’re not anymore so we get fat. The answer is to take responsibility for your actions and eat right+work out more. In my experience western woman truly believe that nothing is their fault. Its way easier to whine about fat acceptance and where are dah good menzzz than it is to hit the gym. Sadly, hamsters don’t burn many calories.
Has anyone ever noticed that women drivers will fuck up, create a dangerous situation and then yell at other drivers? Nawalt might really be a contraction for never at fault.
Dude it’s the fucking food.
We evolved when calories were scarce. They’re not anymore so we get fat.
Calories weren’t scarce in the 70s. Calories aren’t scarce in eastern europe. But they ain’t fat.
It’s fucking mcdonalds and artificial boxed foods.
I’ll stipulate cheap american food tends to be high in caloric content. But every shitty 3rd world country I’ve been in, the common person was doing manual labor for work and walking everywhere they went. So even if their diet was white rice and sugar stew, they burned it off. There are almost no fat people in Africa.
McDonalds cant force you to eat shit. I eat there MAYBE once a year. Skinner got it right. McDonalds is cheap. But, not as cheap as making steamed broccoli and black beans.
Basically, fat people are animals with no self-control then. If there’s no decision process between “I’d like some cake!” and actually stuffing your face with it, you’re nothing more than a bipedal pig with the ability to speech.
I’ve been chubby and gained weight a couple of times in my life and it requires constant overeating. Not only this, but to actually get ‘American fat’, you need to gorge yourself to the brim or to overeat for years. Even if only the former are bipedal pigs, the latter people are sub-human too: their slow accretion of flesh somehow eluded them for years. The only people who do have an excuse are truck drivers and the like. As part of their job they can’t move as much and they don’t have the ability to stop somewhere to cook either.
Women here don’t do that btw. They just admit they suck at driving more often than not. Yelling at people in traffic here might get you bitchslapped(witnessed it more than once).
Lumpy – it’s what they drink. Everything that Western women drink has at least 10 teaspoons of sugar. Every beer, every Bacardi Breezer, every Red Bull, every Coke, every flavoured milk, every orange drink, every Boost Juice, every Frappacino.
I would also add that junk food really isn’t that cheap, it’s convenient. A dozen eggs is about the same price as a can of Pringles but you’re not going to see Tonetta have a couple hard boiled eggs for a snack, no, she’s gonna inhale the whole can of Pringles.
“How is processed rubbish less expensive than fresh produce? ”
Fifty cents worth of liver has more nutrition than 10 bucks worth of spinach.
Next best is eggs.
Stop listening to nutritionists who go on about the “nutritional density” of potatoes and start looking at the nutrition charts, analyzing foods for nutritional value per dollar. The results may surprise you.
“Why aren’t pleb class kids being taught how to cook and eat while in school?”
They’re taught by nutritionists who don’t even know what people eat and have never looked at the nutrition charts without their cognative dissonance glasses on.
Yep, no doubt about it. I’d be dead before committing to a single mom. Not the way I want it to be so much as just the way it is. The fatties are of no use at all.
A former buddy of mine said to me, one night when we were out and some chubby chick was working the bar, looking for a sucker: “sometimes, you gotta sleep with a fat chick.”
Needless to say, I don’t hang out with him anymore.
Had a guy at Encorpera complaining that an HR whale handed him her phone number.
“Fat chicks give me their phone numbers.” He said with a resigned shrug.
But later he was banging a hot intern. I told him women were attracted to him because his face was shaped like a penis. He was appalled at this observation.
It’s a shame because one of the most beautiful, smart, feminine women I know got herself knocked up at 21 to her deadshit boyfriend. She’s 27 and still smoking now, but dat kid…
Clearly, she’s not that smart.
@pdwalker
“Clearly, she’s not that smart.”
she was 21. 21 year old girls are by definition…not smart.
Other than a tendency to slenderness (thin is the new class marker), the primary difference between upper class and lower class women is that the educated and smart upper class women believe in a whole array of stupid ass ideas that are less repellent to upper class men than the whole array of stupid ass ideas that lower class dumb women believe in.
Doesn’t really have to do with actual merit; has more to do with social signalling. Subaru versus Toyota (except Prius, which gets an exemption); Romaine instead of iceberg (nevermind the amazing Wedge salad); atheist versus bible thumping church.
What about Subaru vs. Honda? Are Subarus really that great?
This better be an ironic post about about wimmin completely missing the fucking point.
I know my comment was completely off-topic, but my mother and I were just talking about Subarus last night so I thought I’d see what you all thought about them. Subarus aren’t very popular among the people I know, but my mother says that many people she knows think that Subarus are great.
Troll.
A Subaru is a Volvo for mountain people. They want safety and power, and feel uneasy about driving about a Ford.
Subaru has all-wheel drive!
I’ve heard that the un-PC nickname for them is Jew-barus.
Since hearing that description (maybe right here at the Chateau), I’ve been looking at the Subaru drivers in the San Fran area, and……I have to say the stereotype has a large basis in reality.
Almost every make has all-wheel drive. Dyke mobiles no longer stand out in that regard.
Dude, your Suburu-driving Mom is a dyke.
And, quite honestly, you’re sounding rather light-in-the-loafers yourself.
Thanks for the responses.
Zombie Shane, I’m not a dude, and my mother doesn’t drive a Subaru, but you’re kind of funny. 🙂
Every time I see a COEXIST bumper sticker, it’s on the back of a 4WD Subura wagon. I kid you not. And more Priuses now.
Oh thank God. BTW, in terms of what you ought to be driving, if you want to snag a quality man, then be this chick:
The Subaru WRX STI kicks ass. Unfortunately wiggas have ruined the brand image of the car.
But its goofy looking.
Love the rally car image. I’d love to have a dirt track and go banging around in a WRX all day long. I wonder how long it would be before I rolled it.
Fat chicks. The subaru rally cars of the female world.
It’s not just being thin that’s in, but being thin and very fit.
I saw a very nattily-dressed Italian chick at the polls today, who was not only starving herself but who was also very obviously lifting some iron. Personally, I put artificial upper-arm/tricep definition just behind moustaches and manjaws as warning signs for Darkness of the Heart.
of course, the Darkeness of the Heart thin seriously working out babes provide the best bjs,the best fucks, the best sex.
Life is full of tradeoffs.
passionman, I just dunno about that. These days, upper-body tone-ed-ness in a chick is such a strong warning sign for hyper-ambitious ladder-climbing hive-mind cuntery in a chick. Don’t expect any feminism or independence of thought or basic humanity from one of those glued-to-the-gym-mirror fashionista narcissistes.
YIKES! Meant to say “Don’t expect any femininity…”
I guess there’s an art to finding a happy medium between cottage-cheese triceps and Arnold-Schwarzenegger triceps in a chick. But in my mind, I so strongly associate female gym-whorery and bike-dykery and triathlon-insanity with Darkness of the Heart and and small, hard, masculine little non-responsive BBs-for-clitorises that those bulging triceps just set off all of my warning bells.
Swimming is a great way for a woman to stay fit and not look like a piece of beef jerky.
The stupid ass ideas of the working classes are less irritating in the long run. Stop expecting women to fulfill you intellectually. It ain’t gonna happen.
++ to that. If you want to have an intellectual conversation … talk to a guy.
Here, here…
Atheism is the sign of a dark heart. If she’ll kill your kid, she’ll have no mercy elsewhere in her life. Avoid like the plague.
“kill your kid” – you mean abortion of a tiny little cell? Abortion, which was widespread in biblical times and which the Bible doesn’t mention or forbid? Which was only forbidden later by celibate half-men priests who hated the thought of the normals having sex and possibly looking down on the celibates for being sexless freaks, and therefore set out to declare sex dirty and evil and make it as difficult as possible for the normals? Yeah. “no mercy” etc. Because it’s the same thing as murder, right? Only in the feverish minds of American conservatives, whose precious GOP was hijacked long ago by fanatical religious leaders allied with Zionists. That strain of “conservatism” has nothing to do with the real White nature. It is closer to the Jewish nature, Judaism being the parent religion that declared sex to be dirty and evil because it was the one good thing that couldn’t be colored by religion.
“Atheism is the sign of a dark heart”. Ah, the typical arrogance of religionuts, as taught by the church leaders they suck up to in the hope of getting that sweet reward after death (good luck). Pretending that their religion is the origin of “good”. I’ll remember that next time I see Obongo on TV, who has been going to church for decades. You’re in good company.
You’re a loser with no moral compass. Sorry if you’re incapable of experiencing or understanding a higher power. I have very solid reasons for my beliefs, ones that even your hero Adolf would have agreed with. You’re just tedious and petty.
C’mon abortion is murder and I’m not a hyper religious nutcase.
Just call it like it is. If someone wants to abort their own child then have the courage to say what’s really going on.
It’s simple 2 + 2 = 4. The fact that the pro abortion people have the put on The Mental Olympics of all mind games to justify it is proof enough that everyone knows the score.
If you want to have abortion, hey go ahead it’s there for you guys, but don’t delude yourself that it’s not killing.
Thou shalt not shed innocent blood… and what blood is more innocent than that of the unborn?
Arbiter, you have to stop reading HuffPo and Skeptic’s Bible and thinking you were made wise… here’s how it TRULY stands:
For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
Psalm 139:13
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart…
Jeremiah 1:5
This is what the LORD says– he who made you, who formed you in the womb, and who will help you: Do not be afraid…
Isaiah 44:2
etc., etc., etc.
” Thou shalt not shed innocent blood… and what blood is more innocent than that of the unborn? ”
But where is the cutoff point. Aren’t the children of the middle east, which the USA bombs and kills, on a almost daily basis innocent also ??
what color are they?
American foreign policy is run by J*ws.. It is also wrong to kill innocent children in warfare too, even in the ME.
But where is the cutoff point. Aren’t the children of the middle east, which the USA bombs and kills, on a almost daily basis innocent also ??
I’m not sure I was ever an advocate for US politics, especially foreign (ahem) policy, so… I’m not sure what the point of this semi-rhetorical question might be?
” I’m not sure I was ever an advocate for US politics, especially foreign (ahem) policy, so… I’m not sure what the point of this semi-rhetorical question might be? ”
This wasn’t aimed at you Greg. It was rhetorical in the sense, that most “Merikans” who are against abortion and and use the bible to support their position, seem to have no problem with dead Children. As long as they die during one of America’s ” holy crusades “. The Bible wrapped in an American flag, and all that Jazz.
Ah, I see now… you’re right, of course… but the ‘Murricans who are supposedly bitterly clinging to their Bibles should actually open them once in awhile…
Then again, we all know that’s a stereotype from the Cathedral, and the ‘Murricans no longer cling to their Bibles… not like they cling to their flat-screens, leastwise.
I observed this phenomenon just the other day hanging out in Laguna Beach.
I saw several young women 18-21 working out on the sand, preparing to play volleyball. They were pretty, but each one of them had a big lard ass.
Cut down on the beer and tacos, girls.
Yup. You can’t out-train a crappy diet.
Truth — but dozens of “women’s magazine” say otherwise.
tru dat
@anton
Women’s magazines “say” nothing. The messages are driven by corporate advertising agendas. Food, Inc is big biz here in the US.
Some of us like some junk in the trunk. And if they work out the asses might be fairly firm.
Keep your ‘booty’
There’s firm and fit booty a la Jen Selter, then there’s the amorphous blob that is Karassdian. Gimme Jen Selter.
Not that kind of rippily “junk”! Read Taubes’ “Why We Get Fat”…..almost always because of simple carbs (white bread, potatoes, rice, corn anything, diet sodas and sugar). Training increases tone, does not reduce weight.
“There’s firm and fit booty a la Jen Selter, then there’s the amorphous blob that is Karassdian. Gimme Jen Selter.”
not a kardashian fan but jen selter is way worse. her ass implants are not enough to override her man jaw, weirdass nose and overmuscled body. she looks like a tranny.
@Olay, that’s false. If you have a calorie deficit diet, you will lose both fat and muscle, so if you exercise enough, you can lose weight while eating nothing but KFC. I wouldn’t advise it though. I’d actually say working out is more important than what you eat(unless you have horrid eating habits) because muscle is anabolic tissue and uses calories.
http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2014/11/04/artificial-intelligence-outperforms-average-japanese-high-school-senior/
u know what that’s means…
I give up – what does it mean?
Sex Bots taking all our jobs.
Well I guess maybe if your job was as Sheldon Adelson’s cabana boy who serviced Miss Lindsey Grahamnesty and Bitch McConnell and John “The John” Roberts on behalf of AIPAC & Goldman Sachs.
Yep bots will overwhelm the workforce and u know what that means
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/03/theres-a-really-embarrassing-allegation-about-these-popular-feminist-t-shirts/
Since tshirts are relevant now, is there a way to get your own tshirts printed without the print falling apart after 3-4 washes?
“I don’t think I’ve ever seen a young post high-school white woman not in college and who wasn’t at least overweight.”
I disagree with this. There is a whole lot of ‘hired guns’ positions that have hot girls in them where they aren’t going down the career/corporate route. I mean some are in community college or some bullshit like that, but they don’t really go on to the major leagues.
The catch is that their youth is the only thing propping them up. They age and age fast.
Most of the waitresses where I work are pretty hot…I’m sampling one as a fb at the moment….love this job…
“Most of the waitresses where I work are pretty hot…I’m sampling one as a fb at the moment….love this job…”
waitresses are always hot, sweet and friendly. maids and nurses fall into that category too usually.
I have had a theory for quite some time now that the elite is trying to socially engineer the working class to androgynous drones… I think they may just pull it off.
Already past the tipping point IMO. Fugly, unthinking complex-carb devouring organic sludge debtors…
Now THERE’s a T-shirt!
Brave New World is a good example. I think you’re right. They could control breeding and aggression in one stroke.
If poor, rural girls all looked like Ellie Mae Clampett, the world would be a better place. But they don’t.
they look more like Jethro
But with more “moustache” than Jethro!
You say that like it’s a problem, yo.
YaReally and the gang – what thoughts on this new controversy about RSD Julien being banned from hotels in Australia because he teaches men how to choke and intimidate girls?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/julien-blanc-real-social-dynamics-dating-coach-slammed-for-promoting-sex-abuse-tactics-in-melbourne/story-fni0fiyv-1227112108679
ha juliens stuff has gotten really dark lately and he really is pushing game to its limits in terms of asshole-ness
jeffy from RSD got an article written about him in jizzabell a while back for driving around san franscisco and picking up girls and having sex with them in his ‘rape van’
apparently julien was really jealous about this and wanted to have an article written about him too so he started doing really antagonizing stuff in his womanising pursuits
lol. awesome.
Bitches la la la love to be choked.
Response in mod lol
@YaReally This is an interesting case because it shows that there are still some things you can’t talk about publicly…or rather that MEN can’t talk about publicly. I don’t talk about game to people who don’t really understand it. When 9 1/2 Weeks came out in the late 80’s it was panned by feminists and critics who also saw it as “violent”—fast forward to today when 50 Shades of Gray sells a shmillion copies but outside of “clit lit” it’s still not possible to talk about these types of acts without being labeled some type of monster. Why is the same standard not applied to “Dominatrix”s?
@CH
Plz approve my post lol
Julien gets banned from hotels in Australia for advocating the same thing that prompted millions of women to buy 50 Shades of Gray….myuh huh….
Muh dik…
My take on this is simple: if you can’t figure out when to do those things by learning classic game, you shouldn’t be taught how to do them because most likely you will fuck it up.
BTW, what’s stopping you people from filling out petitions for hotels to close down feminist conventions too?
Julien loves to be provocative, partly it’s his slightly twisted sense of humour, and partly no doubt he wants the free publicity.
But if you watch his videos, you’ll see there’s a reason his “sexual assault game” hasn’t resulted in any charges or even complaints of actual sexual assault. He makes very clear (when he’s not trolling for publicity) that uncalibrated newbies should *not* try his trademark choke opener or call women bitch, slut, whore etc, and that there are all sorts of subtle signals that he reads and gives off that allow him to get away with it.
E.g. when he does these things he’s smiling and giving off a playful vibe, and he goes for the choke-hold slowly and gently enough that a girl could easily take a step back or swat him away if she’s freaked out by it. If she does get freaked out, he knows how to turn it around by saying “just kidding”, amplifying the friendly vibe and immediately talking about something else. If you make a mistake, but act like it’s nothing, continue acting like a normal, fun guy and immediately move on, the mistake can be quickly forgotten. He may also make a statement of empathy along the lines of “sorry, I know I’m a little intense sometimes but I’m just fooling around”, to show he’s aware of normal social rules and breaking them anyway, rather than just being a social freak (Disclaimer: I don’t try this extreme stuff myself but I remember something along those lines from Julien’s videos).
Of course, all we see in his in-field videos and photos are the outrageous bits. It’s very good marketing. But he and Alex (the “nice guy” of RSD who is the polar opposite of Julien in the way he presents himself) have said that if you were to join both of them for a night or see their unedited footage, you’d see their game styles are actually quite similar. Would be interesting to know if anyone here has seen more of them and can confirm.
On a related point, he has said that the way he justifies his videos to girls he’s with who have googled him is that it’s a marketing persona. He laughs with his audience about how he “fools” the girls into thinking he’s a nice guy deep down, and that they can even see him revealing his “tricks” in his videos and that he’ll still be able to persuade them that it’s all an act. But another way to look at this is that it’s *us* who are being played, that the marketing persona just exists to get clicks and bootcamp signups, and that Julien’s real game is significantly toned down compared to what we see in the video edits.
Having said all that, if I were him I would definitely be worried that some clueless guy will see a few minutes of his videos, try and copy him, and end up on an assault charge with Julien getting the blame in the press. Maybe he thinks even that would be good publicity. But his style doesn’t suit me, among the RSD guys I much prefer Todd and Alex.
@Truman – yes, exactly. Not just Julien’s stuff but a lot of Game stuff is meaningless/misleading without context (negging for eg has a really bad reputation with people who’ve only read The Game).
But you can’t really expect the mainstream media to go with nuance – they’re just gonna go with sensationalism every time.
PS – And this stuff takes time to learn. It’s only now, 2 years in (on and off admittedly – maybe 5-6 months hardcore going out 4-5x a week in total in that 2 years) that I’m starting to get comfortable with sexualizing and sex talk. Getting comfortable with uber-dominance and choking etc is going to take quite a lot more time.
How many uncalibrated clowns who’ve just read The Game and and are still trying to get over their approach anxiety and try an opinion opener are going to try and copy Julien and get arrested trying to choke a girl because they can’t read the girl and calibrate?
It’s really quite dangerous – not because he’s doing anything wrong with the girl but he’s handing guys dynamite without the skills to properly use it.
@Culum
“It’s really quite dangerous – not because he’s doing anything wrong with the girl but he’s handing guys dynamite without the skills to properly use it.”
“Who wants to do fucking CRAZY shit? Who wants to burn venues to the ground? Who wants to do even CRAZIER shit than their doing to reach the next level? Anyone who raised your hand: if you’re new or intermediate, you’re fucking retarded.”
“A lot of guys think persistence is enough to get good. If I just keep persisting, at some point I’m gonna break thru. The answer is no. That’s stubborn persistence. You’re getting a good reaction but not good results so you think you should do crazier stuff. It’s banging your head against the wall and thinking you’re not getting thru because you’re not banging hard enough.”
“You want to be persistent in an ADAPTABLE way, where if something doesn’t work instead of doing it over and over, try something else.”
“With content…guys will take shit dogmatically. Julien said you can say Dog Slut and Whore to a woman, if he said it it must be true, so they go up and say Dog Slut Whore and get kicked out. So they try it again and get kicked out. And they keep trying the same things. This isn’t smart.”
“A lot of the advice, we’re talking about stuff that are verbal but there are a LOT of subtleties. If we say go up and say Dog, guys think we’re saying it in a serious way. If I do it, the subcomms are that it’s a playful challenge. IT’S AN EXTREME PLAYFUL CHALLENGE AND THERE’S NO REASON TO DO IT IF YOU’RE NEW.”
“If you fuck up, ask what could I have done differently in this situation?”
Julien and the rest of the RSD crew DO teach guys about calibration and shit. It’s not their fault if stupid people don’t listen lol If I teach someone how to break a neck and tell them not to do it on their little brother and they go snap his neck, it’s silly to go “YaReally teaches guys to snap their little brother’s necks!!”
99.999999999% of the people who shit on RSD and make adamant statements about what RSD teaches haven’t actually watched the majority of their free content. The RVF board is fucking hilarious right now with all the retarded misinformation going on there about what RSD actually teaches. It’s phenomenal to see it from a group of guys who swallowed the red pill which is based around not being a fucking sheep in society believing second hand hype and stereotypes from the media (or their leader) and instead investigating yourself and making your own decisions on shit with fully informed research.
Literally almost anything people shit on about RSD saying they don’t teach it or they don’t warn people or they teach spam approaches etc., I can probably dig up at LEAST 1 or 2 free videos where they talk about exactly those subjects in exactly the way the person shitting on them thinks they should be talked about.
I’m not an RSD fanboy, they just release a lot of good free professional looking content that addresses pretty much everything under the umbrella of the Red Pill from self improvement to actual game tactics. And I only defend them because of how fucking stupid people are are claiming “RSD only teaches guys to mass spam approach with stupid shit” or “RSD doesn’t warn guys such and such! (despite multiple videos from them talking about calibration and approaching smart and analyzing your approaches to tighten them)” or “RSD game doesn’t work! (despite the hours of free in-field footage of it working)” or “RSD just makes robots and doesn’t focus on self improvement of lifting weights or making money all the RSD students’ lives are falling apart (despite numberous vids from RSD discussing the importance of all that shit in depth)”
This isn’t directed at you specifically, just the general RSD hate-boner going on from this whole thing. It’s like watching the fucking Jezebel hugbox and should make guys embarrassed that they haven’t done minimal fucking research watching a variety of their videos with their own critical thinking skills before sucking eachother’s dicks over “ya bro you’re totally right!! I’m not gonna’ look into it but I heard 5 years ago some RSD guy did something stoopid and our leader wrote a biased-ass article about them so fuck researching!!! What’s the narrative I’m supposed to believe today?! Someone tell me!! I don’t have time to think for myself!! Look at those stupid feminists believing in the wage gap and 1 in 5 girls being raped in school! Any idiot can do some research and see that’s bogus, what morons. Now let’s talk about how RSD never talks about lifting weights or being successful in business instead of typing something as simple as “rsd success” into YouTube and watching a few of the videos.”
I just feel embarrassed for half the Manosphere over their RSD hate. I think certain people in the pickup industry are idiots, but I’ll still look into their shit and decide for myself if there’s value in it and learn about what they’re actually teaching and whether it’s supported by my own experiences, especially if i’m going to have a fucking discussion about it.
YaReally – I agree completely. It’s not so much that I think RSD doesn’t tell them to be careful – it’s more that I think they should take some measures to mitigate the fact that some guys are going to ignore them anyway if you see what I mean.
Not because RSD is responsible if that guy goes and chokes some girl and gets a couple of years in prison for assault, but because (as we’re finding out), the bad publicity will backfire on them in a big way and THEY will be hurt.
I suppose it’s part of the risk of running a pickup company though – like running a tobacco company – some people are always going to be out to get you.
@Culum
“I suppose it’s part of the risk of running a pickup company though – like running a tobacco company”
Ya, I mean what are they supposed to do? It’s like saying “ok tobacco companies can sell their product but they better make sure people don’t smoke too much.” All they can do is either not sell their product or put warnings on it. RSD puts warnings on it. A martial arts instructor tells his students not to use their mad roundhouse kick skills to bully people but if the kid goes to school and bullies them, well whoever raised them without critical thinking skills failed.
CH approooooove myyyyyy poooosts before they’re old and irrelevant lol I wrote a bunch more shit on all this going down. Why are regular posters comments not just auto-approved yet? This is very frustrating.
I’ve said it before. The fat white woman problem is changing the course of human evolution. White man – asian female pairings and accelerated cognitive stratification are the two big effects.
Return of Kings covered your first point months ago:
http://www.returnofkings.com/32248/the-dating-success-of-asian-women-is-due-to-white-obesity
fat proles are disgusting.
What the hell is wrong with that site ? I’ve never seen so many comments from white knights, black gigolos, and ” yo go girl ” woymn power types in one place. No wonder that article has over 700 comments. I think I just stick to the Château.
Truth. Source: Dating a half asian girl.
Get yourself a ballerina; most are thin as a rail, disciplined and already appreciate high arts, music…
What if ya got a foot fetish?Their feets is all gnarled an shit
Ignore the previous ‘thwack’. Obvious troll. No brother is going to suggest going after a skinny girl – land whales only, yo!
Can this be consolidated with HG Wells’ vision of the future? Who are the Morlocks and who are the Eloi?
One of the most encouraging things about reading that yahoo article was that the top 5 or 6 rated comments pointed out how many fat and single mom women are out there.
Someone at yahoo was reprimanded I assume.
Nah. Yahoo likes to close the accounts of users who make too many comments not in agreement with yahoo’s buttplugged pajama-boy worldview.
censorship is everywhere. i’ve had posts on here that never came through because they disagreed with the opinions of the powers that be.
@ turk
i have experienced the same.
all websites filter information to keep in line with their agenda and to keep their loyal followers clamoring for more. this one is no different than the rest in that regard.
too much truth that contradicts the mission and you lose ground. right or wrong, filtration/censorship is just good business.
@turk, comments here don’t come through because wordpress is shyte.
If I only had a binary choice, I would pick the single mom who was fit, lithe, and thin who also came from fit and thin parents (genetics matters) and had a verifiable track record of being fit and thin OVER the unsullied fatty.
Until men refuse to fuck fatties, the social pressure and incentive isn’t there for fatties to change.
I would have to take the fattie; I couldn’t raise another guy’s kids. Fattie could get bariatric surgery.
It’s not that easy to get bariatric surgery scheduled for your fatty. She has to be morbidly obese and basically on the verge of death from the ill consequences. Morbidly obese but blood sugar and blood pressure are nominal, no surgery for your fatty. Keep feeding her donuts until she reaches critical mass, I guess.
Jesus Christ, Troubadour, man, you’re in a dark Dark place.
the kid might run away…
agreed.
i can tolerate a ladies kids once in awhile as long as i can still get hard for her. cannot get hard for a fatty.
Spot on.
Agreed. Hot is hot, and fat is fat. While I don’t want to encourage single-motherhood, we can move on to those more lofty social goals once the prerequisite of basic female health is taken care of. When in doubt, follow the boner.
“While I don’t want to encourage single-motherhood, we can move on to those more lofty social goals once the prerequisite of basic female health is taken care of. When in doubt, follow the boner.”
yup
Amerika middle class by 2025:
brown, fat and stupid
Slightly OT: A great shiv for fat chics that annoy you while in field: “Cool it with the FATITUDE”
Saw it on ROK.
The bigger problem is that college teaches you to be a merciless, career-focused cunt
That depends on what you study.
If you are actually learning things via a challenging major, you don’t have time for that shit.
When are going to write about game again CH? Leave the P.C, feminist b.s to ROK. Or is CH secretely Roosh?
I’d like more game stuff too. All this shiz about how all women are rotten and the world is going into the toilet is depressing and unproductive.
Then again, maybe that’s the point. Perhaps the posts are becoming more and more fatalistic and depressing in an attempt to get us off the manosphere for awhile so we can actually start enjoying women again.
Well played.
It’s not about all women being rotten. It’s about feminists being rotten, and women being influenced by feminists is a rotten thing.
Depressing and unproductive? There is good information here. CH’s posts about politics always include facts. The internet means certain relevant information can spread like it couldn’t before, and it does make a difference. CH is doing his part, and it is a big part. We live in a turning point the likes of which haven’t been seen for a long time, and men do have a duty. Men should listen to what they need to know, and then act.
@Arbiter
“We live in a turning point the likes of which haven’t been seen for a long time, and men do have a duty. Men should listen to what they need to know, and then act.”
Agreed. I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating;
If, as of tomorrow, ALL men would simply *stop* fucking FAT chicks..
in 6-8 weeks there would be no more of them!
How would you know?
@ Arbiter
i agree that there is a lot of good information on here but like you said, “Men should listen to what they need to know, and then act.”
so…act how?
most of us already know what we need to know. none of this is new news to us and i’m not saying that it isn’t great to have a forum where we can discuss these things in solidarity.
the how part of it is what i wish there was more of. i’d like more commentary on real life ways to make an impact in our world and with the women we encounter. not just a few tips on how to game snarky bitter girls when they shit test us or advice to put buns in ovens. those aren’t long term solutions to anything.
the bitching and complaining and always discussing the whys and hows of how we ended up here doesn’t solve anything unless we discuss solutions and plans to create change. venting without discussing solutions is what girls do and we are better than that.
so…act how?
most of us already know what we need to know. none of this is new news to us and i’m not saying that it isn’t great to have a forum where we can discuss these things in solidarity.
Only for some is it enough to hear the truth once. At least 90 percent of people are not dedicated intellectuals, and if the information isn’t repeated they will turn to the information that IS repeated instead.
How to act – get organized. Look around where you live and see what you can join. The organization doesn’t have to be perfect. If it is imperfect, like a mainstream conservative group, think of it as a place to network with the few like-minded who are bound to be there, and to spread the word to others. With the internet spreading information, this will be easier now than in days past.
Here is a truth whether we talk leftist politics or conservative politics, whether we talk religion or rebellion or something else: an enlightened public is good, but without being organized people will give in when pressure is put on them by an organized opponent. For real change you have to get organized.
The Left knows this. They join groups all the time, because their nature is to attack in packs in order to take. Conservatives to just work hard and then go home to spend time with the family, because their nature is to build. But conservatives can organize and have done so many times. The Left knows and fears this.
Game is technology. This is science. No science, no tech.
Not bad… a pithier COTW is not to be found.
> “When are going to write about game again CH?” Yeah, tell us all about tunnel-vision game, where you can’t see the forest for the trees, where you have no encompassing world view, where you’re incapable of classifying [in any larger context] the anecdotal phenomena which you witness, and where all of your PIV escapades are utterly purposeless. Yeah, that’s ticket.
Yo, man. Wass wrong with mindless, nihilistic, pussy hunting? I mean, not for me, since I favor (white) dick, but otherwise?
WTF? Is Reince Priebus paying people to phish a jew pretending to be a chimpanzee? It’s getting difficult to keep track of this shit.
Say what? I need to go find that picture of Shoshana and make sweet love to it!
Dorky middle-class men and underprivileged women should be a perfect match. But popular culture is constantly AMOGing these men.
Note that tradcons want to white-knight poor women’s supposed man problems by opening up the jails and giving them more hood guys to pick from -> http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-conservative-case-against-more-prisons/
If poverty in America really sucked instead of being subsidized, then poor women would start competing for middle-class men the way they do in most countries.
This would also have the effect of middle-class women getting their shit down tighter to hold on to what they have.
Middle-class men would have better inner game.
So – poor chicks get better choices, middle-class broads become more attractive and feminine, and middle-class men have better self-esteem. Win-win-win.
I hadn’t ever thought about it that way before, but it seems like a very fair and accurate assessment to me. I’m a dorky middle-class man who primarily has access to underprivileged women, and I’m still having trouble accepting that all they see is the beta. No matter how many times I prove it to myself, it still doesn’t want to compute.
I really wouldn’t mind having a gold digger for a mistress if the girl had realistic expectations, but girls today are expecting a millionaire to fly them to Paris every other weekend, and a guy who could throw them $400 a month or so is of no interest whatsoever. That’s rent on a trailer, isn’t it? Right, I forgot, rent is free, because it’s Section 8 housing!
It is what it is. Whining about it doesn’t accomplish anything. I need to man the fuck up or crawl back under my rock to die a loser’s death in service to my grotesque fat wife.
Whatever the rationale, this country doesn’t need any more prisons or convicts. We already throw too many people in jail for some pretty stupid reasons.
This
Excellent, ATC. Poverty is subsidized in the US. I’ve spent time in Columbia, there it is not, and a middle class man is a catch.
I was at a travel center today and witnessed a very botched attempt at a cold open. A girl was carrying one bag and pulling another on wheels, when a guy walking in the opposite direction suddenly made a sharp turn and placed himself right in front of her. It was such a sudden movement that I first thought something violent was going on. But no, he just wanted to stop the girl in order to hit on her.
He told her, “Hi, excuse me, you are really cute. I think we should …” and I didn’t hear the end of the sentence.
Meanwhile his friend stopped a few steps later and turned around, so he was watching this unfold from a position behind the girl. She must have seen the guy’s friend and must have figured he had stopped behind her.
She told the guy she was on her way to a plane that would soon be leaving. He still wouldn’t let go, kept saying that they should get together some time, she should give him her number, or he could give her his number. This went on for a while.
She kept insisting that she had to go to her plane. Finally he stepped aside. “Okay, no problem, I just wanted to ask.”
This guy was good-looking, by the way. The girl was young and so was he. Something that seemed off to me was that his hair was a bit too long, the phrase “pretty-boy” came to mind. I figured he thought his looks would do the job for him.
Do you wish he hit on YOU?
Don’t project your wishes on others, troll. It’s clear by now you’re a masochist hungry for punishment.
“pretty-boy” He might also have been a spoiled rotten wealthy kid who was accustomed to having his way and you were witnessing something of an infantilized-man’s temper tantrum.
Possibly, I didn’t think of that – possibly spoiled. Though he wasn’t aggressive. He just didn’t know how to start, how to build any rapport at all, or when to quit. On the one hand I gave him props for trying. So few guys will do cold opens. But the way he did it was amateur hour.
If it had been me I would have walked in the same direction, not blocked her way when she had some place to go. I would have found something to talk about that fit the situation. Talk about the crowd or whatever, talk about how flying is fun, tell her to look out for pickpockets and have some story about that. In the past I have simply told a girl walking next to me that it’s great that spring has come again so we can walk outside without winter clothes. Simple. I say it with a big smile, like a happy thought I just had that I felt like sharing with whoever was nearby. It has worked many times. It’s not the most perfect line, but at least it’s a plausible reason for talking to a girl. Instead of basically saying, “I want to screw you, give me your number so I can do that.”
The girl was visibly troubled. I wanted to tell her to excuse the guy, that he probably wasn’t a bad person but simply didn’t know how to approach, and that guys have to approach or they won’t get anywhere. And I wanted to smack the guy over the head and give him some URLs to study.
Arbiter, I think he wants a jersey?
God damn, have you no feelings. Some of us have to eat later. Dear God kill me, kill me now.
Fear, lack of game, lack of confidence and a perceived lack of options is what drives this. Women have no incentive to look good because popular media tells them it’s ok to let themselves go or….”JBY” (just be yourself) and guys go along with it…I used to be like this too…settling for whatever. Now with a renewed confidence and armed with game both inner and external I’m doing what I want.
I’m curious. What did you feel that made you want to settle? Because I don’t see the sense in it. You either fuck girls that please you or just don’t bother. It’s a pain to me to try to game girls I simply don’t find attractive.
@pijama What made me want to settle? All that stuff: lack of options, lack of confidence, fear, fear of abandonment, shame, near enough is good enough. Now I game girls I want to bang. But Pijama…you gotta start somewhere. Banging 6’s was a good start.
You use those for target practice; black night in white face game FTW
“Just be yourself” is one of those leftist/female phrases that mean everyone is a precious snowflake, everyone is already great. No need to improve and change. It caters to people’s laziness and vanity. And also, women say it because they have no idea what to say, and it’s a safe feel-good uttering. If they give any practical advice they have to come up with something first. And then they are responsible for the advice working or not. And they consider any sort of game for guys dishonest, a way to trick their fellow women, so they won’t give any advice other than safe things like “smile and say hi”.
It’s terrible advice to give to a forum visitor who hasn’t had a second date in years. Clearly he needs to learn how to change.
Rollo Tomassi got it right:
http://therationalmale.com/2012/01/13/just-be-yourself/
If I have a friend that is shooting heroin and I actively encourage him to stop and make an effort to help him ‘clean up’, society calls me a hero or a savior. When I encourage my friend to quit smoking before she gets cancer, I’m a concerned good-friend helping my friend with a health risk behavior. But when I tell a friend he needs to change his approach to women and this is a reason for his unhappiness and he needs to change his outlook on, and approach with women, look better and feel better, then I’m a ‘shallow’ prick and insensitive to his ‘problem’.
YO GUYS LET’S TALK ABOUT HOW WOMEN SHOULD GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN ON THE INTERNET
quack quack
Sorry miss, but the point of the thread is: YOU NEED TO LEAVE THE KITCHEN FOR AWHILE AND STOP STUFFING FOOD IN YOUR MOUTH. Otherwise sure, both women and men would be happier if women were home makers. Plenty of studies are available that show women’s happiness and male pay have both plummeted with the forced employment of women in the work place.
IF THERE’S ANYONE WHO KNOWS WHAT MAKES ME HAPPY, IT’S A STRANGER ON THE INTERNET.
You need new material.
THE IRONY
Iron my shirts BITCH.
Iron my shirts. B!TCH.
you know? i was thinking to myself, as i typically do when i read these articles, why don’t you guys just step up your fucking game and get better quality chicks? indeed, as far as i can tell, while there may not be a lot, there are “enough” quality girls out there, if your game is right. i’ve done pretty damn good, after all, and haven’t had to slum it (unless i was really drunk or horny, in which case, it barely counts since its short-term).
on further reflection, however, i realize i’ve likely been small-minded. while there may be “enough” for the top dogs/alphas, the average dude just doesn’t have a decent chance of having a meaningful relationship with a hot, skinny chick who hasn’t fucked a lot of guys (fyi, i think you purevirgin-obsessed commenters are still pathetic losers who are strongly projecting your own insecurity with women through your comments). fact of the matter: standards have slipped. the line has been redrawn. the sanitation grade at the local diner has plummeted. and, on top of all that, shit ain’t what it used to be. maybe we do need ch’s moralizing more than i previously thought. or maybe i’m overly tired and, therefore, somewhat delusional.
Believe me, it’s incredible to live in a country where most under 30 women are somewhat fuckable simply because it makes the girls we all like far less entitled.
Thoughtworthy.
Feminist Hitler Reacts to MGTOW.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9g7PLTTcFm0
Interesting how you don’t say feminist Stalin. Stalin killed more people than any other head of state. And he was a communist. Communists are the ones who created feminism, while nationalists strongly oppose it. Your comment is like deriding someone for being “a big-state Adam Smith” or “a Protestant pope”. But the Jewish media owners tell the sheeple that “Hitler!” must be the cry used for anything you call Evil, not Stalin who was propped up by Jews until he started to get rid of some of them. And those who listen to the mainstream media do as they are told.
I think you need to follow the link. It is Hitler.
Hitler was also pro-diversity, as show by the following example.
He was a better painter than Churchill, that’s for certain.
Right on the money Arbiter. The tribe imposes it’s narrative constantly because they know the goy are easily led sheep.
I think you are confusing the medium with the message.
I think you need to follow the link. It is Hitler.
So? That the video maker also uses Hitler as The Evil One instead of using Stalin for that role – and that you promote the video – only proves my point even more.
Ye oldyie Reductio ad Hitlerum.
Fat is not always the end of awfulness in terms of women. In Japan, the majority of young women, both clever and dumb, are thin. The girls in Japan really take care of their appearance too. Tattoos, facial piercings and lack of make up or hair care in public is very, very rare.
But in terms of weddability, the smart ones still make better wives. The dumb ones are much more irrational, mouthy and unable to learn their lesson. No matter how alpha the man. The smart ones shut their yaps and look for ways to keep their men from straying. It may be an Asian quality but it is important to note in a nation of thin and attractive girls.
In conclusion, smart girls make better wives. Dumb girls – hump and dump. That she is thinner does not make her a better long term prospect.
Yes, but where do white people come from and why are they white ??
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2821924/My-amazing-albino-family-Brazilian-mother-gives-birth-three-albino-children-three-siblings-black.html
this is telling. “White” is the result of a genetic defect resulting in a form of albinism…..
Yacub… in da house!
Ridiculous. Light pigmentation is not albinism, that is a lie spread by dumb Blacks. (Who also lie and say Whites have smaller brains than they – when it is Blacks who have the world’s smallest brains.) You obviously don’t know the difference between normal pigmentation and albino genes. It is in fact Blacks who have by far more albinos than any other race. Because Blacks, having survived in an less evolved state only by being isolated below the Sahara desert, have more genetic defects. One is their spotty, bad skin, for example. Another is the world’s lowest IQ average, at 70 in the unmixed state.
The link you post proves this point. It is about a Negro family having albino children. Who look nothing like Whites. Learn the difference between normal pigmentation – White, Asian pigmentation, for example – and birth defects, so prominent among Blacks.
Albinism is almost non-existent among Homo Sapiens, but at least a hundred times more common among Homo Sapiens Monstrosis (the classification Carolus Linnaeus gave to the Negro race, and since he is the father of taxonomy the name stays). In Tanzania there is one albino per 1,429 births, due to defective Negro genes.
True to form, Blacks murder and eat albinos, believing them to have magic powers. Blacks are the only cannibalistic race. Other peoples have seen instances of the eating of human flesh in times of famine, or the eating of brains and hearts etc due to religious fantasies (South America) – but to consistently seek out members of one’s own species in order to eat them is a behavior we only see among animals and Homo Sapiens Monstrosis.
Arbiter
Ridiculous. Light pigmentation is not albinism
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True.
White people have pigmentation and they need it; therefore white people should stop attacking people who have more pigment than they do.
The melanocyte is 2nd only to the betz cell in its level of sophistication and complexity; specifically in the eye. Most albinos are legally blind because they lack these cells on the inner surfaces of the eye.
The photo sympathetic cell is a masterpiece of creation. What little you have, you got from us.
*you’re welcome*
bitch
White people have pigmentation and they need it; therefore white people should stop attacking people who have more pigment than they do.
We actually should do a better job DEFENDING against people who have more pigment… have you seen the FBI crime stats lately?
Bitch yo’ self.
Correction, most albinos are NOT legally blind; but they often have vision problems severe enough to qualify as a disability.
Yup your right genius. Race is nothing more than a difference in skin color. Goddamn your a moron.
Well lets be honest; its also a pale clenched fist shaking mightily at a big black chicken.
Or a brown fist mightily clenching a piece o’ fried chicken.
Is it the biggest piece?
Biggest? Wha, you mean you don’t support equal rights in ref fried chicken?
Tsk, tsk… not very democratic of you,.
This is a big problem. I live in a big college town. It is absolutely full of 7, 8, 9 and even some 10s. Its a public university with a large greek system, so its not the “Ivy League” cognitive elite, but it is a college where all the hot, smart, upper and upper middle class high school girls go…these are the young women that should be reproducing at the highest rates in our society.
But the opposite is happening for several reasons. Economics – most of these girls come out of college with significant five-figure debt. They have to look for work, or go on to some form of grad school (and more debt) in order to pay the bills. Culture – the more successful they are in school, the more and more they are dissuaded from being wives and mothers. Very few consider college as a place to meet their future husbands and they just hook up to pass the time until after grad school or their first job, when they’ll “settle down”. While they may SAY that they value motherhood, their behavior demonstrates that they see their own fertility as a huge handicap to their careerism.
College students today are as much children as kids in junior high. They have no idea who they are or what they are doing. It’s not an issue of intelligence. There is no moral purpose guiding them, whether religious or otherwise. They are often more clueless at the end of 4-5 years of minimal effort and regular intoxication than they were when they entered college. I’m not saying that college is causing this…but it is enabling this immaturity. Occasionally I meet a 22 year old man or woman with their two feet firmly planted on the ground, but they are the rare exception.
College is also a very protected environment – most of the harsh realities of life are not present to remind people of what matters. And you don’t see any children or old people around you. It seems like everyone will stay young and party forever.
I remember what a change it was to move from a dorm to an apartment and hear the voices of children in the stairs.
LOL