The Chateau has been a destination for Crimson Pill pilgrims a long time, yet confusion about the functioning of the sexual market continues bedeviling a fair number of click-by readers. And not just at CH, but at other ostensibly Realtalk outposts. A recent example of this entrenched ignorance comes from a commenter at Alpha Game, who is under the impression that a woman’s looks are *less* important to marriage-minded men than to fling-favoring men.
It is probably a bit true that men will make some trade offs in favor of intelligence and other factors against looks in a long term partner relative to a short term one.
But that would be like choosing hot but crazy for a weekend but putting for a bit less hot but sane for a wife.
Of course looks are less important in a wife than in a one night stand. But only in a holistic sense. You don’t really care if a one night stand can read or count past 10 without taking her shoes off. You probably would care the mother of your children can.
“Of course” looks are less important in a wife? Da’Fuc? I don’t know how one could hold this opinion when the real world evidence points in the complete opposite direction. Take a tally of all your married male friends. If you’ve been friends a while, you’ll be able to compare their ex-girlfriends to their current wives. I bet nine out of ten of them have wives considerably hotter than the average of their ex-girlfriends.
The reason why this is so is simple: When a man is seeking to settle down with a lifelong lover and mother of his future children, he wants the BEST DEAL HE CAN GET. If he plans to invest everything in one woman, you bet he’ll make sure he’s getting good return on investment.
It’s similar to buying perishable goods versus durable goods. Toilet paper? Yeah, you don’t want it tearing apart in your ass forest, but you won’t care much about the advantages of 10-ply over 9-ply. You’ll buy a good value TP, a brand that’ll do the job but won’t cost more than a decent cheesesteak.
But a more durable good, like a car? You will care about every detail of that purchase — looks, power, efficiency, reliability… “leg” room. You’ll spend a lot more time mulling over your auto options than you will your TP options.
It goes the same with women. A one night stand or a short fling? Sure, you want the hottest girl you can get, but you’ll make sacrifices if she’s good to go. Maybe you allow yourself to tolerate a one point beauty deduction for a two point increase in sexual availability.
But a potential wife… ah, that’s serious business. Now you definitely want the whole package — beauty, youth, femininity, dependability, fidelity, and smarts that are in the ballpark of your own intelligence. Emphasis on beauty and youth.
Christ, people, use your heads. Do you really think the typical man would be LESS concerned about the looks of a woman he’ll be staring at for YEARS?!
Oh, but you know a man who married poorly. Yes, those men exist… they’re called betas with no options. Men with options are VERY discerning about the women they will bless with their full devotion. You can bet that uglier women, fatter women, sluttier women, and crazier single moms have as much, and likely more, trouble finding a marriage-minded man who isn’t a total loser, as charmless beta males with nothing to offer but their wallets and sympathy hugs have finding a merger-minded girl who just wants to have fun.
It also helps if she can cook, clean, and sew.
Sewing is almost never needed these days, not when we have stores so we don’t have to make our own clothes. The necessary sewing is minimal. Cleaning is easy and not a skill. Cooking is actually also easy – once you have learned to make a meal you remember it. Personality and looks, those are the main factors.
“Cooking is actually also easy”
every chef honing his craft for decades would disagree with you. so do I. many say cuisine is the most complicated of all the fine arts with hundreds of chemical reactions happening throughout the preparation and consumption of a meal that chemists can’t even explain. thousands of years of history and experimentation condensed into a single night.
Only if food is simply fuel and not something you enjoy. There are people that can’t cook and refuse to learn. If she hasn’t learned and has no interest in doing so, it is a good indicator that you aren’t as high on her priority list as you think.
or that she lacks “taste”
I didn’t now you folks had taste (they just have to have two X chromosomes, no?)
“If she hasn’t learned and has no interest in doing so, it is a good indicator that you aren’t as high on her priority list as you think.”
this is correct. it’s not so much that you couldn’t just cook or clean for yourself. you certainly can. that isn’t the point. preparing food for someone is a way to show caring an affection. it’s also something that parents need to do for their children. if a girl is too lazy or uninterested to learn to cook, and/or she doesn’t instinctually feel the need to feed you, she is not going to be the kind of girl who will take care of you the way she should. she will also probably be an inattentive mother who raises fat, unhealthy children because she doesn’t know how to feed them.
every chef honing his craft for decades would disagree with you. so do I.
Come on, of course I don’t mean that GOURMET food is difficult. But regular meals are easy to make. You just need guidance once or twice and then you can make them on your own.
Gourmet food, well, I guess you’ll learn a few of those meals over the years. I certainly didn’t lack great meals as a kid, and my mother didn’t need any expert training to do this to my knowledge, just ordinary skills and experience. I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong in assuming this, but I think this is pretty normal. My point is, most women will know this. As they will know the minimal sewing that you need. Hell, I can cook some pretty good meals, even though I usually only eat basic paleo food focused entirely on health.
Crockpots are the way to go!
sewing can save you from buying a whole new item of clothing if all you need is a repair
Sewing is important too. It’s a hallmark of a quality woman. It’s what women used to do with her hands and mind before facebook and texting. A woman that likes to sew is crafty (i.e. making crafts), and is far more likely to know important oldschool homemaking skills. When she knows those, she’s far more likely to have an older set of values.
And cleaning? It may look easy, but it takes discipline and dedication to do day in and day out. A woman that will gladly do that repetitive work to maintain your home is an asset to be cherished, not made light of.
I think it’s more a willingness to do those things than necessarily being talented at it.
Sewing up socks has to be the most underrated skill. Thee thngs get holes fast and are way overpriced.
If she can sew, you’ve got a tailor! Alterations on the fly . . .
i think sewing is a good skill for a girl to have. got a perfectly good pair of pants except for the hole in the pocket, a hole in your shirt under the armpit where the seam came undone, or a button that just fell off? show them to your girl. if she offers to stitch them up for you, she’s a keeper. it’s a sign of a good, kind, nurturing AND practical woman if she knows how to do those things and willingly offers to do them for you.
“show them to your girl. if she offers to stitch them up for you, she’s a keeper.”
that’s actually a really good way to qualify a girl. also pay attention to how often she offers you something to eat or drink or whatever. like i said, preparing food for someone is a way to show caring an affection.
if she only does nice things when you ask her to and never offers on her own, her heart isn’t in the right place and it’s a sure sign of what’s to come later on down the road.
A woman who sews saves you money because she can mend your clothes so you don’t have to buy a new shirt or pair of pants every time you get a rip or hole.
As for cleaning, wouldn’t you rather have a woman at home who does the cleaning while you’re at work? I know I would. The same thing goes for cooking.
Personality and looks are important, but don’t forget most people are average looking. Average-looking women need something to make up for being average, and that’s where cooking, cleaning, and sewing come in. If she’s hot, then its icing on the cake.
Brutal, but true. I dated a young, feminine girl with good humor and fidelity. I really wanted to love her with all my heart, but. . .her looks were not good. Really not good.
i couldnt handle the idea of staring at that the rest of my life and having everyone we met assume i was a loser. Its a sad world.
i think betas with no options should just stay single as opposed to forcing themselves to settle for something they dont really want. It will save heartache all around.
Yes, I recognize that – dating a girl who you really like, except for that one factor or two factors. Long ago I dated a girl who was cute and intelligent, but she was inexcusably chubby. We were both 22 at the time, and you know then that it will only get worse. I couldn’t settle for that, even though it was sad to see it end.
Another girl I dated was sweet when she was normal, but she had a dark side that made her always assume the worst and always see things as a power struggle – if I surprised her on Valentine’s Day she had to make some outrageous demand in order to show that she could decide things too, and when I didn’t agree to that she would start a fight. She was most comfortable when things were bad it seemed, then she didn’t have to worry that things would go bad. I had to break up with her, even though it was devastating for her. And once I did, I was angry at myself for letting the relationship go on as long as it had. Right after that I started using manosphere/PUA teachings to date, with great success, and then I couldn’t help thinking of all the time I had wasted.
You can’t stay with someone out of pity, don’t let the relationship drag out – you’ll just lose time, both of you. It is easy and comfortable to just go one more day in the relationship, and then one more, and then one more. People lose months and even years that way. But remember then that you only have one life.
Arbiter, consider also that we in the Modern World are suffering from Choice Overload: Just as there are nearly infinitely many cell phones to choose from, and nearly infinitely many athletic sneakers to choose from, and nearly infinitely many men’s ties or lady’s scarves to choose from, so too do we now have nearly infinitely many choices of mates, owing to cellphones and the internet and social media and whatnot. Whereas our ancestors – even the Apex Alphas – would have been choosing from a pool of only about three or four mate-worthy girls in the entire village. Choice Overload leads to all sorts of horrible psychiatry problems [to include the inevitable marital discord] which our species has not evolved to deal with. I honestly feel that the luddites, such as the Amish, have chosen a vastly more fertile path in rejecting the nearly infinite temptations of modernity, and that, long term, the luddites are about the only [reasonably high-IQ] people who will survive this insanity. [On the other hand, as the Mashiach pointed out, regarding the low-IQ folks, “The poor ye will have with you always.”]
tldr; == 150 years ago, the two girls whom you’ve described [Fatty and BPD-y] would have made absolutely first-rate wives, and you could have enjoyed a wonderful life with either one of them [or both of them, if you were a Mormon].
“She was most comfortable when things were bad it seemed, then she didn’t have to worry that things would go bad. ”
Sounds like my ex. In fact, she would create drama just to know that I “loved” her.
Another girl I dated was sweet when she was normal, but she had a dark side that made her always assume the worst and always see things as a power struggle…
These Cluster A girls get worse, not better. You dodged a bullet there.
Pity and a sense of duty to a truly nice girlfriend are horrendous reasons
to stay with her. The sad fact is that nice aint enough. If you dont
balls to bones have that feeling that you want to get her pregnant,
than you shouldnt be with her. (regardless of whether you want kids)
“Pity and a sense of duty to a truly nice girlfriend are horrendous reasons
to stay with her. The sad fact is that nice aint enough. If you dont
balls to bones have that feeling that you want to get her pregnant,
than you shouldnt be with her. (regardless of whether you want kids)”
truth. not fair to the girl and not fair to you.
tldr; == 150 years ago, the two girls whom you’ve described [Fatty and BPD-y] would have made absolutely first-rate wives
No, they wouldn’t. But 150 years ago men would have put up with them because they didn’t have a choice. Game is about giving men the possibility to choose. There is nothing wrong with that – the girls we don’t choose will not go lonely just because WE don’t pick them, as manosphere readers are not even one percent of men.
If you don’t like this, then why do you write here? Why do other tradcons write here? It isn’t right to simply use CH’s blog as a platform just because he won’t ban anyone, not even those who over and over again criticize game.
You know we agree on politics, Captain Obvious. But all the same.
Sounds like my ex. In fact, she would create drama just to know that I “loved” her.
Indeed – start fights to make it feel “real”. Because that’s what they have known all their lives. That’s what it was like with their parents. The accusations in my case were always, “You are only doing that to show that YOU have the power, that it’s YOUR money, that it’s YOUR home!” (Why … yes, it was my money. It was my home that I moved to. Why should I have to place the TV where she wanted me to place it? Who starts an argument over something like that? Or when I went to buy a painting and let her come along, she turned it into “my painting” versus “your painting” right there in the store. Everything was about power, about who won and who lost.)
Reading stories in the manosphere after that relationship, I have seen that a lot of men have experienced the same thing, more than I realized at the time.
>>If you don’t balls to bones have that
>>feeling that you want to get her pregnant,
>>than you shouldnt be with her. (regardless
>>of whether you want kids)
True that.
“If you dont balls to bones have that feeling that you want to get her pregnant,
than you shouldnt be with her. (regardless of whether you want kids)”
total agreement here. having an intense desire for your woman is mandatory in a relationship. if you don’t have that with a girl, something is really wrong and you’re wasting your time, her time, and you’re living a sad hollow life.
If all personalities were equal then clearly I would chose the hottest woman I could get. But in the real world I would take a 6 that was feminine and pleasant over a bitchy and belligerent 9 all day long.
However, intelligence doesn’t factor into it.
Keep saying that to yourself….. Say it one more time.
Then lay a hot 9 down in your bed and bang her and then go back to that 6 you’ve been dating and tell me how you feel about her.
Mat690 is precisely the beta male stock that are the natural mates of homely girls.
No way. I totally agree with Mat690. Personality [and especially spirituality] is NUMERO UNO by a very long shot. Then gifts [e.g. perfect pitch versus tone-deafness]. Then intelligence. And after those three, then and only then do you get to her HB score.
Personality [and especially spirituality] is NUMERO UNO by a very long shot.
Gee, have you adopted the Chinese maxim, “the ugly wife is a treasure at home?”
No. Absolutely not. If she doesn’t pass the looks criterion, she ain’t getting anywhere.
For me it’s 1) looks, 2) personality, 3) intelligence, and finally, 4) gifts / everything else.
Hence, the flaw in the rating system. Femininity is a value increase to me. Thus, if I did rate women, a nine would always go over a six with feminine qualities, because the feminine qualities got her thenextra points for being a 6.
But if you rate a 9 on looks but 0 on femininity, vs 6 on looksbut 3 on femininity, then you have a conundrum. But, factor in that looks will fade, and long term the 6 +3 will beat out the 9+0. The best way to factor the depreciation is to look at the mom. If her looks dropped substantially from 6 to 1 or 9 to 8…factor it in.
But as Barbie says, “Math is hard!” So don’t strain your brain.
Personality is greatly affected by intelligence. The more intelligent tend to be a lot better people. The proles tend to be coarse, easily distracted by whatever fad the media produce, which today means to ape the Kardashians and “go grrrl” attitude.
Yes, CH has written at least two posts about a girlfriend’s intelligence lately, but it seems many miss something he noted – that intelligence doesn’t matter after you have found a girl within your range. About 15 IQ points up or down. The point was that a girl doesn’t become more desirable by having an IQ far above your own, and that looks then wouldn’t matter, as a professor with a book to sell had claimed.
Not true. He and I banged for a couple of months before we broke up.
If it makes you feel better to think that every woman hotter than what you can get is bitchy and belligerent all day long, then salud, Male Hamster.
False dichotomy.
Some 9s are bitchy; some are pleasant. Some are terrible starfishes in bed; some are passionate lovers.
The 6s vary as well.
Brah, just go and tuck your 2 inch micro peen if she ain’t a 9 homie. You should just get a Darwin award for the extinction of ur pathetic beta male genes. And have fun sucking the cuckhold nog jizz out of your fat libtard dyke behind the divorce courts looser. Hoo rah!
Again, inches?
The delusional “I would rather” beta. You never approached a 9 let alone banged one.
Excellent explanation.
Article is 100% true. Chick I’m settling down with is definitely top 3 hottest chicks I’ve dated. She also makes a good living so when this charade blows up in divorce court I have a little bit of a buffer from the divorce theft bonanza. My #1 job is to keep her working and in the gym.
“in the gym” == in the center of the cock carousel??? Wifey really should be at home, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Unless maybe it’s a “Perez Hilton” gym?
So she doesn’t get fat. Duh.
@ corvinus
girls do not have to be gym rats to stay thin. they can easily stay in good shape just by eating right, walking, jogging, hiking, etc. and even without all the exercise most girls can maintain a healthy weight just by keeping their diet under control.
almost all the girls i’ve ever known who go to co-ed gyms regularly are attention whores who have lost a lot of their femininity and have acquired very masculine traits (physical and personality wise).
i’ve also noticed that most of them tend to become pretty narcissistic and self-absorbed. they blast social media with tons of selfies showing off their bodies. they wear tight workout clothing everywhere they go just for the attention.
you just don’t see that as much with the girls who just eat right and go on nice walks or play with the kids to stay in shape.
gym girls might be thin but they aren’t ideal if you’re looking for a feminine girl who has wife/mother potential.
The gym is not what keeps you thin. It’s the diet and self control. The saying “abs are made in the kitchen” exists for a good reason, you can’t outexercise a bad diet.
“The gym is not what keeps you thin. It’s the diet and self control. The saying “abs are made in the kitchen” exists for a good reason, you can’t outexercise a bad diet.”
exactly right.
Breastfeeding and chasing around little ones burns more than enough calories
Breastfeeding and chasing around little ones burns more than enough calories
Ah, so that’s why all the Black and Arab women are so slim and fit. We should emulate them and stop doing exercise. Right?
“Emphasis on beauty and youth.”
when getting ready to take the plunge –
make sure you see every female relative of your future wife. mother is most important if she is still lean and attractive for her age that is a good sign but older sisters aunts cousins are all good indicators. if they are all hot and thin the odds are in your favor. this is one reason those potentially dreadful family events are useful – scoping the genes
boom
Dumped one chick after she completely failed the Mom Test, and on top of it mentioned getting a “little” chubby and being “proud of it”.
Good point, however I’ve seen the startling converse to this:
In my apt complex, there’s this fat gal yet her mom has a rocking figure. The mom makes visits once in a while and she’s killing it. Not the prettiest of faces, but nice smile and makes me wonder what in the hell happened to the daughter.
Her dad is a lardass.
Her dad is a lardass.
anti depressants are usually the culprit when the mom is skinny and daughter is fat.
Some guys prefer relationship minded 7s Especially north Asian women over a high maintenance 8+ white gir
I wonder if you’ve met any South Koreans. They’re possibly the most status-obsessed, materialistic people in the world.
Strapon, Ive met rich Singaporeans, Indonesians, Chinese…all hungry c0ckwh0res. Status is most important though you are just stating obvious. But status is not exclusively limited to finances; see broke biker who cucked billionaire heir in OZ
Im not feelin you bro; hop in my beemer and lets go sarge on some hot blondes…
Hey you fuckwhit… stop stealing my lines. Bitches man…
Some guys prefer relationship minded 7s Especially north Asian women over a high maintenance 8+ white gir
7s can’t be low on the scale now. Such rating inflation will eventually make most of the ten-point scale redundant. Already people refrain from ever calling a date a 6, and just to be on the safe side many say 7.5 instead of 7.
In my mind 6 means “attractive”, period. 5 is homely. 7s are the most attractive girls in a high-school-sized group (because that’s where me and a couple of buddies worked out the definitions). 8 is attractive on a professional level – on par with women who get roles on TV mainly because of their looks. 9 is physically perfect, while 10 is physically perfect with a special charisma shining through. (When you see it you know what that means.)
I agree T Rex. I think some guys with their heads screwed on straight realize that if it is really going to be for the long haul, you’d better not get too obsessed with whether the woman is in 8 or 7, for example. You’d better instead think of what it’s going to be like after the age of 50 and 60 and, regardless of her previous beauty, not worth assigning an SMV rating to.
And the reverse perspective for some quick sanitation: Do your standards lower for one night stands? Of course. I and every other man whose stepped in a bar has said to himself “meh,, I’d hit it” about a marginal girl.
Yep.
Though when people write about it online, every girl is at least a 7. I always remember a guy’s lyrical description of a “solid 7″ he had met at a night club. Later in the thread he posted two pictures of her, and she was horse faced. In my eyes she was a 4; one step below homely, ugly without being terribly so. But definitely not a 7 (very attractive) or even a 6 (attractive).
Yet he kept talking about how hot she was. I don’t think he was consciously dishonest – he thought she was hot because she had slept with him, and that’s what was on his mind, the pleasure of getting laid.
It was very enlightening.
More beautiful women also negotiate more committment…. because they can. This river flows in both directions.
I think people often make the mistake of thinking a woman’s looks are only correlated with their own sexual pleasure and there are more important things than their sexual pleasure when it comes to family. But I suspect nature didn’t create female beauty for no reason at all and it signals mate quality.
exactly.
there is a reason that men are universally attracted to certain traits in women. their physical traits are all representative of something. it’s not just for our visual enjoyment. there’s a reason behind all of it.
long healthy hair=good health now and most likely a history of good health as well. full breasts=most likely to produce ample amounts of milk for babies. sure, itty bitties can do the job but they don’t carry as much milk so you have to feed the baby more often. fuller breasts carry more. that means fewer feedings. more time for other things and the baby stays satisfied longer. small waist, full hips and ass=built for pregnancy, childbirth, and carrying babies around after they’re born. big bright eyes that are proportionate to her face=she’s got something going on upstairs. whether it’s her intelligence, her soul energy or whatever. the eyes do really tell all. dull and beady or just small or too close together and you’ve got an indication that something isn’t quite right. could go on and on but like i said, there’s a reason behind all of it.
what color is she?
do you just control-f for the word “babies” and then ask “which color is she”?
eyes yeah.
you basically want the opposite of the thousand cock stare. big, clear, bright eyes that are also sort of warm and inviting. this is a huge indicator of good health (physical and mental), good genetics, intelligence, etc.
that’s why most of us are so turned off and unsettled when we see people who have eyes that aren’t quite right. it is a clue that something is wrong with them on a deeper level.
The eyes are a window to the hole
Only when they’re brown… which matches.
full breasts=most likely to produce ample amounts of milk for babies.
Full, firm breasts also signal youth. But you are right of course, about long and healthy hair, breasts and hips.
There is also the hip-to-waist ratio: it has been shown that even blind men prefer a certain hip-to-waist ratio, which coincidentally is the one that leads to the least miscarriages.
Some other traits:
Clear eyes – health
Good breath, good teeth – health
Small nose – youth (never stops growing)
Small ears – youth (never stop growing)
Slim shoulders – youth
Short face – youth (also never stops growing, gets elongated with time)
Wide cheekbones – youth (gives the impression that the face is less elongated)
Smooth skin – health
Clear voice – health, youth
Straight back – health
And of course, slim shoulders etc are signs of estrogen trumping testosterone. Giving the woman good child-bearing capacity.
Youth, health, good capacity to have children and to survive to take care of them. Sometimes it needs to be spelled out. This is evolutionary psychology.
Greg Eliot on June 5, 2015 at 7:27 pm
Only when they’re brown… which matches.
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the photpsympathetic cell converts radiation into mass.
Guess what color it is?
speaking of your precious future wife…
“Almost half of women have admitted to thinking about another man while they were making love with their current partner, according to a new study.”
“And for many women, that fantasy figure is close to home with the majority picturing a close friend or colleague at work.”
“A further 31 per cent of women and 23 per cent of men have slept again with their first love years after they broke up.”
“All this fantasising about past loves is seen as harmless fun by 60 per cent of women”
if she’s not looking back at you when you got her in doggie… well…
She can’t look back when you’re shoving her face into the pillow.
thats why we smack that ass and make em say our name:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D0iL2vkquxw
Alpha fux beta bux, yet again.
speaking of your precious future wife…
“Almost half of women have admitted to thinking about another man while they were making love with their current partner, according to a new study.”
Yes, those evil women. Be glad you don’t have to deal with them, cook this. MGTOW, right?
It’s a long life. Sex is had thousands of times. Anyone who says he has never thought of another woman while having sex is lying. Or doesn’t have much sex.
Once again: tradcon dogma putting women on a pedestal, or incel dogma trying to find any possible way to get back at women, are both detrimental to the manosphere.
Yeah, mission impossible in today’s world, especially with the popularity of feminist propaganda
Hot girls my age have usually fucked 4 guys and that’s before 21
General rule: she should always be doubting she’s good enough for you. Therefore under 24 or tween from Costa Rica is best bet (places hand on shoulder)
When judging a man by his woman, I look at how pretty/feminine/nice she is and I look at how she treats him.
yep. how she treats him is a big one.
i have a couple friends with bitchy disrespectful girls. they think they are doing what’s right by staying with them because of kids or whatever. but they really aren’t doing any favors for the kids at all. the kids are just going to grow up and be just like them because the example of “normal” that they are going to have. and no matter how much i love my buds, when i see them put up with subpar women who disrespect them, i can’t help but think of them as weak and pitiful.
You get what you don’t enforce… women follow men leading. Your friends need to learn that.
“weak and pitiful” is right.
Indeed, and that leads to a note about divorce:
It isn’t good to have a society with a high divorce rate. However, the solution is not to advocate that immature people to stay together. What we need is people brought up to be mature and disciplined, who spend their youth improving and educating themselves and becoming better. People who are pleasant and hard-working and know themselves, so they are good people to be around. So couples don’t HAVE to get a divorce.
Too often we talk about banning this or allowing that, subsidizing this or lowering taxes on that. These are valid discussions, but the underlying problem is to a large degree a people’s character. Which can only be changed if we go one step further still, and address the whole package: the media owners and mass immigration.
Interesting that no one has talked about the importance of loyalty. I put that up there with feminine/sweet/agreeable/pretty.
Loyalty would be akin to what I was calling “spirituality” above. Superficial cheerfulness and optimism and femininity won’t do a damned bit of good if she’s disloyal or if she’s a nihilist.
good point S man; the “hide this gun for me” test is a key component of any good wife evaluation.
You’re a funny guy… really funny, Tommy.
Loyalty comes from the withdrawal of government protection and support of women, of women being exposed to their survival needs and instincts, but ultimately a patriarchy that treats women like property or nothing worth supporting. Loyalty from a wife comes from bros before hoes, but it takes a philosopher to see that and appreciate the power of patriarchy. “With great power comes great responsibility.”
I would say loyalty and the other traits you mention are included in Personality; people don’t forget about it, but it would be tiresome to write a long list.
Loyalty from a woman?
The little incel troll braying about how evil women are once again. Tilikum is the fat old loner who says:
“A woman is not a person!”
“Women are not humans!”
“Who the fuck cares what a woman thinks?” (This in a thread about a CH post addressing exactly that, how women think – but he is too much of a coward to criticize CH directly, so he’ll find someone in the thread who says the same thing as CH instead and complain there.)
And after he had declared he doesn’t care what a woman thinks: “Amy, send your email address to my blog, I want to ask you something.” LOL
Pathetic loner, infesting manosphere forums just to spew out his hatred of those who won’t go near him.
aaaaaaaaannnnnnnnddd…. mod…
Yup….just had that happened right now
Sad little men who can’t get laid…all on one blog
Yes, but that’s Jezebel – why are you telling us about that?
😀
So tell us sad little men how you do it trollballer
I believe it misspelled the handle it intended. In isn’t Dante, it is Dainty.
Another too general article. How many men “with options” are out there ? I guess less than 10%, even 5%… The whole analysis is about imponderables.
Question;
I have a friend who asked me this and baffled me. What if a girl keeps calling you “bro” or “brother”? He showed me her texts and it read something like “May you have a great day, brother” or some shit.
I know she is trying to be funny and 18th century style
What I told him to reply with; “Should I call you ‘your grace’ or can I call you Cersei?” (GoT reference of an incestuous queen)
Did I dun goof? Either way I think he is an orbiter already so w/e
Lots of brat remarks are deserved – and if she persists, veiled comments about incest is best – assuming he’s banging her that is. And if he’s not, why is he wasting his time with her?
total agreement here. i don’t even like it when girls call me dude. it’s masculine and immature and usually a sure sign that the girl will have other masculine qualities that i will also dislike.
brother or bro? that’s just weird. it’s masculine and immature like calling you dude so she’s obviously trying to come off as the cool girl who can hang with the guys. but it also sounds like an attempt to make it clear that your buddy is in the friendzone and she wants to keep him there.
wouldn’t waste my time with that one.
what color are you?
Physical beauty vs. other qualities like hot-meal-every-night beauty must be traded off against each other if the guy can’t ‘have it all’, period. Female beauty is not unlimited; it is perishable wealth. We are realists living in the world of conservation, right? If a guy does not have to ‘settle’ in one wife, he did settle by having just one wife. Is he going to trade her in later or just cheat on her? Why not a harem of de facto wives with a steady supply of young virgins? Why not the moon while we are at it. lol Should a man get everything he wants in life? We have a term for that: spoiled brats. Any man who is satisfied simply by being #1 in a socially relative way is no better than an animal or a woman.
real men use bidets.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-orleans-restaurant-extremely-apologetic-n-word-receipt-n363431
Waiter writes n-bomb and”100% Dislike” on a customer’s receipt. Customer’s mother posts to Facebook with the caption “we need an advocate and lawyer ASAP.”
Bad WORDS used + FEELINGS hurt = sue and attention.
Enjoy The Decline.
As many waiters and waitresses have said, Black customers don’t tip and they leave a mess behind. They are only a negative for a restaurant. Parasites.
What do you mean by high maintenance? T-Rex
Lyrics got hung up in mod. . .will this pass?
Love that tune. And I always make sure it gets played at any company parties.
It is very much possible that I lack the experience, but I think these days with all the knowledge available, hotter girls are generally likely to be smarter and have more self-control than a ugly girl.
Beauty these days, is not something that you are born with, but something that is cultivated with years of hard work, and self-control. If the girl is smart, she will be able to gather and implement the knowledge to make herself more attractive to guys. If she is ugly, it probably means she doesnt understand the basic thing that attracts guys.
Dating ultimately is a sales position. Guys and girls are selling their value to the opposite sex. An ugly girl and a beta guy is ultimately a bad salesman, has poor self-control, is most likely less intelligent.
intelligence, self-control (future-orientation) are probably the best indicators where you will end up in life.
IMO
Have to disagree. Ask any teacher. There are frequent dumb attractive girls. These are easy game prospects as they never think too far ahead. Many ugly smart girls around but without enough common sense to try and up their attractiveness with things they have control of. Nose job, weight loss, make up, working out. We are at the point where any sub 130lb girl starts at a 6 on the attractive scale.
Yeah. I agree. It’s very much possible that can just have good genes or you just happen to have friends who are all into fashion or you have too much money. In these cases a girl will be hotter on average, even though she is not hot purely by self development.
Which is why I said “generally speaking.” Another way to see it is if you could measure “self-control” and “intelligence” for all girls and then plot a bar chart of these values for various grades of beauty (HB #), in general girls with higher beauty will have higher self control and intelligence. Probably a S shaped curve. Because girls who are 1s and 10s have higher contribution from good genes.
The same goes for guys.
Outer appearance is reflection of inner aptitude (or qualities).
But thats not true, right? Right? Go hamster spin and tell em…
Attractive people have a higher average IQ than ugly people. Good genes come with good genes. The physical signals the health of the whole.
This has been shown in tests using a simple but effective method: have men and women look at photographs and rate the attractiveness of the people in them. Then look at what IQ those people have.
Furthermore, simply look at the peoples of the world. Arabs are more attractive than Blacks and have a higher IQ. Persians are more attractive than Arabs and have a higher IQ. Whites are more attractive than Persians and have a higher IQ.
Back in history, Indians in the north-eastern U.S. were lighter and looked a lot better than the Plains Indians, and also had more advanced societies, with clay homes and tools etc.
East Asians are definitely more attractive than Southeast Asians and have a higher IQ.
Lighter-skinned people in northern India look better than dark-skinned Dravidians in southern India, and were the ones with the more advanced culture.
There is one discrepancy: Jews are unattractive but have a high IQ. Or so we are told. But as the linguistic part has been removed more and more from IQ tests, their test results have plummeted. Israel’s average IQ is only 95. (You might say that’s because they have a lot of Arabs living in Israel, but so do Western nations, whose IQ average still remains at 100.) It seems they are an anomaly, gifted with a clever use of words but lacking real, practical innovation. Or to put it another way, they go to Harvard to study law and journalism, they don’t go to MIT. In the other direction we have copy-copy Asians who go to MIT but who don’t write best-sellers or write captivating speeches. A balance is best. And finally, there seems to be a creative spirit aside from IQ, one that can’t be measured but that can clearly be seen in how Whites stand for 97 percent of all inventions and discoveries from the Renaissance and onward.
“how many men with options”
I wager ~90-95% of able bodied men, no?
How many AWARE of options,
and how many with the ABILITY to exercise those options.
But then hey, the Maitre d’Chateau would have to spend much more energy chasing poon and not have time for the blog.
Yeah you won’t be able to convince anyone, troll. CH is older now, but no one will doubt his prowess, past – or present. He has posted many examples from his own experiences. Invented, you say? People can’t put on an act forever online, their real selves shine through. CH’s writings are based on not only Science, but obvious experience to a degree that one such as you could never accomplish.
Now go oink some more.
Solid. One of the best posts
mods? are you there?
I read that there were three takes before they got the final shot. Someone needs to give Emma an enema,
How much willpower does it take to put on a condom/pull out? If the thought of impregnating her scares you, she ain’t wifey. And that’s mostly related to how hot she is. Likewise, if she has a strong aversion to your jizz, she’s not that attracted to you.
“Likewise, if she has a strong aversion to your jizz, she’s not that attracted to you.”
If you’re fucking her, who cares?
Science tells us arousal dampens disgust. Therefore, low arousal= increased chance of thinking your jizz is icky. High arousal= Blow jobs are definitely on the table.
It only matters if you’re worried about being cheated on. Context matters too. There are still girls out there who are very easily disgusted.
A solid 10 brings her own kind of logic…
Can’t disagree with that.
A solid 11 brings total raving madness.
It is all good…
no shit asshole. keep regurgitating shit from 2008-2010. theres a reason quality has dropped