Remember this post about the romantic Kiwi betaboy who followed an American woman around all night on New Year’s Eve like a puppy dog, only to part at 6AM with nothing to show for it but her coy instruction to “find me”? The niceguy romantic beta had one photo of her on his phone, which he promptly enlarged to masturbation size and uploaded to Facebook hoping she would see the green light at the end of his pier and the world would help them reunite in McLovin bliss.
There’s an update to this story. The girl found out about his Facebook campaign to locate her. Guess what happened.
A lovelorn New Zealand man who asked the Internet for help finding the American girl he met in Hong Kong last year on New Year’s Eve has found her – and she doesn’t seem too happy about it.
Reese McKee, 25, gained thousands of followers when he posted a picture of ‘Katie’ and his story of dancing the night away with her last December. She left him only with a first name, a hint that she lived ‘in D.C.’ and the alluring request: ‘find me.’
He has now revealed that online sleuths did, indeed, find her. And they mobbed her with so many messages that she deleted every single one of her social media accounts within hours. […]
Mr McKee says he hasn’t reached out to her yet – he’s waiting for the online furor to die down.
But, as one slightly horrified blogger points out, it’s likely she has no desire to to speak with Mr McKee now. Their romantic night took place nearly one year ago.
‘A year is enough time for someone to get married, go through several relationships, or even have a child,’ blogger amiantos writes.
It takes a lot of beta to convince a blue city American girl to tear down her Facebook wall. She must have felt the kind of disgust that’s typically reserved for mutilated bodies, dog shit, and flabby male feminists.
Moral of the story: Women are so predictable.
Some good does appear to have come out of this niceguy’s romantic abandonment.
Even Mr McKee seems a little sheepish about his quest to be reunited with the girl he had a chance meeting with a year ago. He told the Herald that he has turned down multiple media interview requests – including from ABC’s Good Morning America.
Shortly after Katie was found, he deleted his Facebook profile and the Facebook event that invited fans to help find her.
What’s that sensation hiding between the lines? Oh yes. Burning shame. Enough time has passed since the RealTalk Revolution invaded the public consciousness that it wouldn’t be a stretch to think betaboy here caught his eyeballs on a few websites such as this one and experienced a rude awakening about the nature of women and his own self-defeating courtship missteps. Two people win when a man is saved from incel purgatory: The man, and the woman he dates who gets to experience the joy of a proper seduction.
Unless…it was brilliant ploy to get famous,and turn that notoriety into an “aw that poor guy,he’s so romantic” geyser of gash… nah,he was just a fag.
> “a blue city American girl”
Thank you.
I know that it’s dangerous to speak in blanket terms about these things, but I maintain that, in general, if you want to date a nice girl from a good family, and maybe even put some buns in her oven, then you’ll have a helluva lot more luck with a Red State GOP X-ian chick than with a foul Blue State cunt who has The Darkness in her heart.
Emphasis on Christian. A churchian “conservative” like Jenny Erikson is a nightmare in the making.
That’s true. You can always game her out of ultimately racially suicidal practices like “worshipping” gods that are interested in the religious beliefs and souls of Hottentots, Bushmen and Australoids.
a foul Blue State cunt who has The Darkness in her heart.
BOOM!
‘The chances are billions to one, but I like those odds,’ he wrote.
my thoughts exactly
Lauren Holly really hit the wall.
Wow. Just…. wow. ;^)
Here’s why I have a problem with that!
(strokes cat)
What a homophobic bigot
(brings coffee cup to lips)
Wow…just wow!
Reading that story made me want to gouge my own eyes out and burn them.
The term Kiwi is also used to refer to mongrels Neo Zealanders?
Did you mean that as a question? If so the answer is yes and it is also a nickname for New Zealand’s National sporting sides other than the All Blacks.
He’s lucky that she didn’t call him a stalker and go after him.
Not that she’d have any right to do that, but there are a lot of women who wouldn’t care about such niceties.
He should never have admitted to using internet sleuths. Yuck how supplicative that sounds.
Well, bummer. Weren’t they supposed to live happily ever after? Isn’t this the plot of several rom-coms over the years?
Change the motto from “pretty lies perish” to “I told you so”.
I feel sorry for the guy. Better he learn these hard truths now, when he’s 25 and single before he gets One-itis and marries the slut whom he thinks he loves, who then turns him into a wage slave, divorces him for CashNPrizes, and leaves him living in a van down by the river.
His encounter with the Blue-State American chick and subsequent humiliation might be the best thing that’s ever happened to him in the long run. Perhaps he’ll even find his way to sites like CH, Krauser, and Rational Male. One can only hope.
Waiting until the furor dies down to contact her is a mistake too.
He should contact her and announce himself. The less romantic and less investment involved, the better.
This thing is weird enough that she’s emotional, maybe he can whip it back around to his advantage, but he’s got to start playing.
She was never attracted to him to begin with. She NEVER wanted him to find her, by any means.
She was quite stupid, as is typical of girls like her, to not realize he easily could in the era of facebook. He had her photo, name, and city!
True, but I’m sure she never expected he’d take her “find me” seriously. If a girl wants to be found, she’ll make it a lot easier than “Katie in D.C.” Lol!
This is like a girl giving a guy a fake phone # and he tracks her down anyway.
When a former neighbor of mine was in college, when she and her girlfriends would go clubbing (back before cellphones were ubiquitous), they would give the dorm floor number to guys, and each girl had a ‘handle’. So if some guy called for ‘Ellen’, another girl could tell her ‘it is Rick you want to talk to him?’ If not, ‘sorry she is out!’
Ya my ex GF told me in her bitch days from age 23-27 she and her girl friends would not only give fake names but make up entire stories. Like they would actually pretend to be nice and talk to guys who hit on them for 20 or 40 minutes or whatever with fake names and biographies of who they were, like a ballerina with NYC ballet or whatever…..
BTW this was proof of CH’s writings. My ex GF was 34 going on 35 when I met her, and I was under the gun to marry her and give her kids in a short timeframe.
If she had not been such a bitch, she would actually have been nice to once of those perfectly good guys back when she was 26, as she was supposed to have found her husband by 27.
Wrong, brah. She may have thought those were ‘bitch days.’ Nah…she’s just a bitch. She was a bitch then, too, but at least she had (waning) female power — beauty and youth. Now she’s just a bitch.
I laugh now whenever a chick turns me down in a rude way (extremely rare), because I understand what’s going on — she thinks, because of the ‘you have a vagina’ validation she receives, that she’s some otherworldly person and so cool.
shit it’s not just girls doing that. i was a french-canadian forex trader at a bar in minneapolis last year. girls like dopey accents and it’s easier for me to act like pepe lepieu if i talk like him too.
She left him only with a first name, a hint that she lived ‘in D.C.’ and the alluring request: ‘find me.’
Poor blue pill guy doesn’t understand women-speak.
I dunno, man.
If I were 17/18/19/20, then I’d still be gullible [and romantic] enough to think that she was being serious.
There’s something to be said for not being too damned cynical about life.
Of course, episodes like this will go a long way towards robbing you of your youthful innocence.
Exactly.
Oops – he’s 25.
That’s getting a little old for tilting at windmills.
He probably lacks extensive experience with women.
I.E. Any
Yeah, “find me” means “I am your superior by far, so get lost, and don’t even try.”
Unfortunately this age-old game of high-value girls and the betas they meet on vacation has been ruined by the advance of technology and social networks.
At least the poor guy will get a lesson in reality, and will not spend the next 50 years wondering what might have been if he had struck lucky and “found her”.
So true. It seems like great fodder for a Hollywood movie; those two reuniting after 50 years, gray of hair and passionately in love, because she spent the last 50 years looking for him too.
In reality, she had 13,000 guys in her life after she met that one, and he wasted his life on a fantasy.
It happens every day. If all I get out of the red pill is that, at least I have that. I’m still suffering spasms of that kind of pointless fantasy, but at least I know better. Eventually empirical truth will retrain me. I hope.
I do lament the fact that the red pill isn’t faster acting or more total, like in the movie. It’s more like a gene therapy treatment that slowly infects your cells and changes your DNA over time. There can be pockets of resistance, like when you suddenly get the urge to buy flowers for a stripper.
The question I will ponder tonight is whether I was getting farther playing evil dark triad dude. Dark triad dude was getting played, but he got a number from a girl who was mildly interested. Emotive hand wringing blogging night after night dude is just in a cold dark pussy vacuum, and getting increasingly pissed off when he realizes how Pyrrhic his victories against his wife really are. He has more control than ever, but not nearly as much control as he wants to think.
Nicely put… and shows a lot of soul and character.
I genuinely feel sorry for the guy. The little of the Beta that is left in me is receiving final blows. I think we can all relate to the guy, we all taught like that when we were young. That is why we find it so distressing. Who would of taught that FIND ME=Don’t FIND ME. To us guys FIND ME = FIND ME, well until red pill of course. Maybe it is for the better another Beta will potentially join our ranks, he will hopefully understand that girls like that don’t deserve love, what they deserve is just PUMP and DUMP.
Beta quiz. Which is a lie?
a) Katie
b) in DC
c) find me
d) all of the above
Maybe she was trying to do what the girl did in the movie Serendipity…at the time she thought it was cool and romantic…and then changed her mind
Maybe like a cat playing with a mouse she had no consideration for the victim she was using to amuse herself
I said maybe because we do not know enough… but from what I know of women, I am probably right.
Canadian Friend, I think this was her version of a polite blowoff and she assumed he figured that out. I truly do not think she believed he would try to find her.
There are soulless bitches who will toy with a guy like this for fun and games, but usually girls reject indirectly because we’re spineless, conflict avoidant and/or unwilling to hurt a guy’s feelings. Maybe he was pressing her for contact info and she didn’t want to give him a direct “no”. Just for frame of reference, I don’t think I’ve ever given a guy a direct no myself, unless he’s very drunk or being a jerk.
But he thought it would be a brilliant romantic gesture anyway and gambled that it would pay off. That’s how he rationalized the whole pursuit to himself. Everyday he fantasized about their first meeting and how they would fly into each other’s arms and be overwhelmed by emotion and gratitude to the heavens.
And then reality struck.
Poor kid.
Well, it’s high time for him to grow up and become a man.
or maybe he didnt have the balls to ask for any contact info in the first place. in that case, if he accepts “find me” in place of actual contact info, then maybe thats all he really deserves.
I agree. Seems a lot of girls go the indirect approach when turning a guy down, and usually, not for nefarious purposes.
Overseas though, as a woman with an American accent, I found it’s best to be very clear – “no, I am not going to fuck you.” A lot of the US backpacker girls are too stupid to figure this out, though, that foreign men automatically assume you’re DTF, and it leads to a lot of problems. Cross-cultural stuff like this, you can’t play the niceties.
A lot of US backpacker girls aren’t too stupid to figure this out, they’re just DTF. lol
“Not without a clown mask.”
“usually girls reject indirectly because we’re spineless, conflict avoidant and/or unwilling to hurt a guy’s feelings. ”
That’s just a silly rationalization. If it wasn’t, you’d accept men lying to you about how much they love you if they did so because they didn’t want to hurt your feelings.
Reality: she did it because it soothed her ego, just like men who lie do it because they want a warm hole around their cocks and honesty wouldn’t get them what they want. This is combined with the fact that YOU feel awkward when you hurt other people’s feelings. This woman couldn’t care the less about HIS feelings, it was all about HERS.
I don’t comprehend what this man saw in this woman. She’s the type of girl you talk to only to warm up in the beginning of the night or because she makes a useful prop. She barely qualifies for this, let alone be a honest romantic pursuit.
“That’s just a silly rationalization. If it wasn’t, you’d accept men lying to you about how much they love you if they did so because they didn’t want to hurt your feelings.”
Apples and oranges. Men lying to a girl about how much they love her to get sex is the equivalent of a girl lying to a man to get him to commit to her. Yea, both are bad.
We’re talking about rejection. A guy lying to a girl about why he doesn’t want to see her anymore (i.e. telling her it’s because “he needs space” when it’s really because she’s getting fat or he found someone he likes better), is a more appropriate comparison to what she did. Men lie in rejection to avoid drama. It’s understandable.
I don’t know whether this girl cared about his feelings, and neither do you. I know that I care about other people’s feelings and don’t want to hurt them if possible.
“I have a boyfriend”, “I’m not interested in a relationship right know” are polite blowoff. “Find me” was typical attention whore cocktease game, this time succesful beyond reason because the guy was (I hope) a horny über beta. You probably know that, but hey, team girl comes first.
No, point taken. It was definitely a bitchy attention whore blowoff. I still don’t think she believed he’d try to find her, given what little info she gave.
women routinely psychologically project their own low energy aloof sexual temperament onto men. this is how they rationalize their shitty attention whore behavior.
Not sure what you mean. Is it that she’s rationalizing her flip “find me” by telling herself he cares as little for her as she does for him?
women underestimate how sexually torqued and persistent men are by nature. this allows women the laxity to engage in blue ball stoking attention whoring without feeling a heap of guilt.
You’re right. I also think women generally underestimate men’s capacity for feelings because, of course, we tend to punish you for showing them.
There is no team girl. They nearly hate each other. But they naturally give shitty advice, and since it’s often the same shitty advice, one might think they have team spirit together. They don’t.
You need an injection of confidence. You’re here at team boy, and *newsflash* the girls don’t have something similar.
LOL
No she most def was not trying to do that bullshit. If a girl is into you, she will make it easy for you.
I know this thought makes you uncomfortable, but the idea is that he stimulates attraction where there was none before and she did not want to feel any.
Of course he does not tell her he is planning to do this, not quite plainly anyway.
Might not work but if he wants to devote time to this girl, it may not fail. Again, it’s his choice to try, unless or until she gets a restraining order. And by what he did so far, he came perilously and unnecessarily close to that possibility.
Yes I know this is more trouble than it’s worth. But the most interesting problems, and comments, are those that try to do what isn’t obvious and easy. Yes of course he should next her, but what if he decides not to?
This poor misguided fool. “Find me,” clearly means “I’m not really interested so I want to make it hard work.” It reminds me of the old pre-net days when a chick might tell my buddy “look me up in the phone book,” when he was standing ready with pen and paper in hand. I imagine our poor kiwi her was likewise standing there with his smart-phone always signed into facebook saying “what’s you profile name?” Then she skips away with here real friends filled with the emotional validation she needed as a pick-me-up that night, saying “uh … yeah … find me!”
Her: “look me up in the phone book,”
You: “is that where escorts advertise their services nowadays? bowling on Thursday?”
Her: “omg, i’m not a slut!”
You: “Ah, then you better have a nice personality to make bowling worth while this Thursday”
Heck, even if it doesn’t work, you will feel better than letting her end it on her terms.
Not bad.
Houston, we have a phaggot.
it’s about time people posted lawl worthy comments like these
What ever happened to good old fashion regular stalking?
I think females would like that instead of the cyber way.
How should we stalk and creep like an alpha
women like bad boys…
stalking is bad…
so i should stalk them right?
Stalking is needy. Not bad…pathetic.
I’d say, if it’s creative, has fun aspects for you, and some reason to expect success (a psychological strategy), then hey you’re a man and it’s your choice. Sounds like an alpha way of doing things.
If it’s just beating your head on it harder and begging her please to give you some relief, that’s pathetic and a big fail.
The second is very common, the first is probably pretty rare.
There’s probably a Stalkersphere.
Stalkatiste, Steve Stalksteinbergwitz…
Etc
An undiscovered country.
Alpha stalking:
Stalk on a motorbike.
Punch them.
bitche would be lucky to have me as a stalker
What a fa66ot.
If she was really getting bombarded by thousands of facebook messages and such, I don’t think it’s that over the top to delete the account.
…and yet, if they made his tale into a movie starring Michael Cera and Zooey Deschanel, said movie would rake in the umpty-billion dollars forked over, still moist with pizza sweat, from the cavernous, swampy depths of many 40DDD bras.
[CH: This place is rubbing off on you. Not sure that’s a good thing for a woman.]
Except at the end,when the Cera fag character gets humiliated worldwide,their would be a nerdy glassess wearing reporter girl who has been following him on his questthe whole time who then looks him oin the eyes and …the 40DDD’s get what they came for.
Nah, it’s not you; it’s me.
I’ve always hated chick flicks. So insipid.
Lol, well in that movie you’d at least have a girl who MIGHT be worth chasing. Zooey Deschanel is pretty cute. Obviously most men agree with me because whatever male music producers or whatever around her lack the courage to tell her that she is a terrible fucking singer.
Eh, gots to give her credit—on the “Elf” soundtrack, she does a pretty good duet of “Baby, it’s cold outside.” The dude, however, cleans her clock, artistically.
Yeah, Zooey was in Elf. Playing older than herself, played Will Farrell’s love interest. Funny how now, a decade later, she’s playing younger than she was then.
I’d fuck those ice-queen-meet-quirky-hipster Deschanel girls. Twice each. Then leave them on the side of the road for thwack to rape and murder.
Rape!
On a related note, there are evidently very few actresses active in Hollywood who are older than 34. Wonder why that is…
The ones who are are the ones who can actually act.
Because their value on the casting couch has gone down too far.
Zooey hit the wall a few years ago. I can’t think of any young actress that looks a bit innocent these days, all the hot ones have a slutty look they can’t shake off.
This, this, and THIS!
Zooey Deschanel is too old and you can tell by the camera shots that they are trying to hide the wall she’s hitting. Sad really. A cute girl in an age where the female actresses are rarely feminine.
In the old Hollywood studio system a female actress could be really feminine and still succeed because a studio would do all her promotion career development. Now for an actress to succeed she has to be very aggressive and entrepreneurial. As a result few big actresses appeal to guys who like feminine girls.
On the bright side, if the masculine actresses turn you away from the mainstream media they also turn you away from brainwashing cultural garbage that is rotting the core of American culture.
Excellent point.
He compounded his mistake, by not using his 15 minutes of fame to attract prettier girls. He should do the interviews and keep up his Facebook page.
[CH: Right. “Agree & amplify”.]
In fact, I predict we will see this as a new technique for scoring dozens of women in the pua’s toolbox.
He’d have to somehow work it into beta-takeaway game.
What he’s got that can be taken away? His detective skills?.
Isn’t it amazing, even this pathetic beta could have turned this into a clear win just as you say.
All a man needs is a bit of playful spark, a bit of deviltry, and a willingness to know and follow his baser impulses, and a win is almost guaranteed. Because a woman seeing that sees a man and reacts as she is programmed to do.
The American chick isn’t even good looking. The guy shouldn’t have wasted his time. Now he has earned a lifetime of ridicule all because of an almost-fatty.
Hollyweird will change the story around, cast the guy as Matthew McConaughey and the chick as whoever, make up some bullshit happy ending where he finds her, and then market it to SWPL bitches and rake in the millions.
GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
CLOWN RAPE!
Sorry, thought you were talking to me.
> “Hollyweird will change the story around, cast the guy as Matthew McConaughey and the chick as whoever, make up some bullshit happy ending where he finds her, and then market it to SWPL bitches and rake in the millions.”
Somewhere in Time
1980
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081534/
Sleepless in Seattle
1993
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108160/
The Lake House
2006
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0410297/
They seem to make these movies about once every 13 years.
I guess the next one is due in 2019.
MIchael Cera will star
Or else they’ll make some dumb kneegro play the heroic love interest to a white girl–to fight racism, you see.
the own history of the kiwi boy’s is interracial. just keep the facts!
Yeah, but the Israel-lovers don’t think the kiwis are that sexy. They like the ape cock.
If he plays his cards right ( which I doubt) he could use his 15 minutes of fame and score with another girl.
Except his 15 minutes of fame are for being a pathetic freakshow stalker. Chicks dig pathetic losers? I dunno.
I thought a guy photoshopping himself into my FB photos was bad, but this really takes the cake.
“I thought a guy photoshopping himself into my FB photos was bad”
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! What did you do?
I asked my friend to message him to take them down, and he did. I wouldn’t have been so upset if he’d made it clear he photoshopped me in. But he was making it look like we went away together, did stuff together, etc. which is really not cool.
Oh dear
lmao. Congratulations. Can’t wait to hear how he boiled your bunny.
In another universe it would have been considered very romantic, since he proved that he was willing to go the distance and find her. Looks like a committed guy to me. But in our world this is creepy and the guy is the creep. “O look out there is the nice guy that is looking for me after I told him to FIND ME.He must be a creep.” And isn’t commitment what women are looking for? Or they say they do? THEN AGAIN WHAT IS TRUTH AND HONESTY TO A WOMEN WHEN HER GREATEST WEAPON IS THE LIE.
“In another universe it would have been considered very romantic”
Photoshopping yourself into FB photos? No, I’m pretty sure such a universe could never support human life.
ON THE OTHER HAND some enterprising woman could start the “FB girlfriend service”. Here’s the photo kit, I’ll update my status and my bot will throw in some likes and comments. $49/mo, we take PayPal. $29 for our Awesome Breakup package including a complimentary transfer within our associates network.
You’re welcome.
Glengarry,
That was in regards to the previous Amy post:
“Except his 15 minutes of fame are for being a pathetic freakshow stalker. Chicks dig pathetic losers? I dunno.”
mistakenly clicked reply to the second Amy post, anyway if you bothered to read the reply you would have figured it out.
It certainly was not in response to her every body wants me, guys are Photoshopping themselves into my pictures and other female attention whoring crap.
Don’t be coy… turnabout is fair play.
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He was just following the principles of “The Secret.”
candid petting zoo shots will bum out any animal lover.
Anders Breivik got a myriad of love letters after he became a mass murderer. First of all, this guy isn’t a stalker. He might be socially inept, but he didn’t stalk her. Stalking implies unwanted and obsessive attention and this woman did clearly tell him to find her.
Otoh, even if he’s a stalker, hundreds of thousands of women know of him now. If 0.0001% of women dig creepy men like him, then he’s set with at least a couple of girls.
> “If 0.0001% of women dig creepy men like him, then he’s set with at least a couple of girls.”
Empirical Game FTW.
In another universe it would have been considered very romantic, since he proved that he was willing to go the distance and find her. Looks like a committed guy to me. But in our world this is creepy and the guy is the creep. “O look out there is the nice guy that is looking for me after I told him to FIND ME.He must be a creep.” And isn’t commitment what women are looking for? Or they say they do? THEN AGAIN WHAT IS TRUTH AND HONESTY TO A WOMEN WHEN HER GREATEST WEAPON IS THE LIE.
What did it cost him? Now he doesn’t have the social proof on FB that he wouldn’t have had anyway. So the cost to him was zero. And he wasn’t getting anywhere with you.
Did he shop you into his photos or shop himself into your photos?
A guy can make a fool of himself, laugh at it, and you know what, he’s a former pathetic loser. But he’s still a man, still has a dick, and can still stimulate attraction.
The reason you think it’s some sort of permanent condition is that men you’ve rejected have not often changed like that. But I have so I know it can be done. Her reaction was essentially involuntarily, and out of her mouth came “you’ve changed …”
I really don’t care whether it’s a permanent condition or not. I’m seeing someone, and I don’t appreciate some fool I barely know downloading my pictures, altering them, and posting them on social media to represent that he and I are a couple. Any more than you, as a married man, would appreciate some fat girl you work with putting “I love you” notes in your car for your wife to find, or cuddling up to you at office parties.
I’m a good sport, I try to be understanding, I’ve been stalked for real and handled it calmly, but the fact that you think this kind of crap has no “cost” and is just a part of life is wrong, and frankly kind of disturbing.
It reminds me of this Billy Joel song, ( emphasis mine)
She can kill with a smile, she can wound with her eyes
She can ruin your faith with her casual lies
And she only reveals what she wants you to see
She hides like a child, but she’s always a woman to me
She can lead you to love, she can take you or leave you
She can ask for the truth, but she’ll never believe
And she’ll take what you give her as long it’s free
Yeah, She steals like a thief, but she’s always a woman to me
CHORUS
Ohhh… she takes care of herself
She can wait if she wants, she’s ahead of her time
Ohhh… and she never gives out
And she never gives in, she just changes her mind
And she’ll promise you more than the garden of Eden
Then she’ll carelessly cut you and laugh while you’re bleeding
But she’ll bring out the best and the worst you can be
Blame it all on yourself ’cause she’s always a woman to me
She’s frequently kind and she’s suddenly cruel
She can do as she pleases, she’s nobody’s fool
And she can’t be convicted, she’s earned her degree
And the most she will do is throw shadows at you,
But she’s always a woman to me
Until suddenly she hits the Waaaaaaall
Billy has hit the wall a couple of times himself,ha ha ha. (See what I did there? He hit the wall–literally. He was driving drunk.)
Har.
Keep in mind that he did get to repeatedly bang Christy Brinkley when she was young and hotter than a tin roof on a desert shack. For that, much can be forgiven in a man, even drunk driving.
Forgiven… until the female child popped out looking like him.
Anti smite!
Gotta LOL that!
Billy got taken to the cleaners by Christie even before their divorce, so I’m not sure how much poon he really got off of Christie. She seems to have seen him as a cow to be milked. She conspired with his manager and they both ripped him off for millions.
Then, hilariously, Christie got cheated on pretty openly by her next sucker/husband. Quite a blow to her ego that, no matter how much she manipulates and no matter how much plastic surgery she has, young poon beats old poon any day of the week.
In case you missed it, Britney Spears at 32:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2567161/Tired-looking-Britney-Spears-reaches-salad-shows-bra-straps-grabs-quick-lunch.html
Amazing what makeup will do, the photo of her onstage still looks pretty hot and it’s current.
She’s making $30 million in her current engagement. That means someone is paying that money to see her or buy her songs or something. Who, and why??
Betas.
YKW got YKWed.
Crazy how Christie Brinkley’s plastic surgeon keeps her better looking in pictures than her daughter (who, unfortunately, looks like Billy).
Too bad Christie’s vagina is drier than sand and IRL, without tons of makeup, she’s a wrinkled old husk.
Aw, well. My 80′s masturbation memories will have to do.
Old Supermodel rape!
you are such a romantic!
> “My 80′s masturbation memories will have to do.”
Paulina Porizkova FTW.
And I believe that both Kathy Ireland and Kim Alexis are spokesgals for the pro-life movement.
Finally, there’s Kelly LeBrock:
What Kelly LeBrock looks like today.
Wouldn’t hit it with a cricket bat.
Never thought I’d say it but…
Wow… just… wow.
Paulina Porizkova was cool. She wasn’t on a power trip over her fans. I think she made the modeling power structure a bit uncomfortable.
I know Christie is way post-wall, but I think she looks amazing for her age and women should aspire to age like that. Whatever her personal issues, she’s always been into nutrition and fitness and you can see the results. Young women should take note.
It’s so true about her daughter… what a gyp to be Christie Brinkley’s daughter and not look anything like her!
Less talkie, more nudie pics.
Children inherit their father’s looks and their mother’s brains. I’ve said it repeatedly.
And people still go nuts because some chick has a 10 body. Yes I like it too, but it should not be all you care about if you’re going to have kids with a woman.
Naw… in my nuclear family, it was just the opposite.
And my own children got a pretty good mix all the way around.
Jesus LOL’d
lzozlzozl check out 32-year-old Britney:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2567161/Tired-looking-Britney-Spears-reaches-salad-shows-bra-straps-grabs-quick-lunch.html
I feel ashamed because I have had several real life GFs who are ten times hotter than she is and yet I didn’t appreciate it. Britney is flat out a 4 or 5 and she is totally a product of make-up and lighting on stage.
My 37-year-old ex GF looked 100 times better than Britney in face and body. Way better body, no fat, no cellulite, and perfect skin with no makeup.
I have started to realize that a lot of these celeb women are not all that in real life. There are lots of examples of this. Not just ones grandma age like Jen Aniston–even the ones who are 28 or 31.
I’m going to start appreciating real life non-celebrities who manage to actually look better than these famous women in real life.
Actually I’ve banged more than a dozen girls all way hotter than the world famous Britney.
I don’t understand why she stays so fat when she dances in a 2 hour show every night. Must be the 1500 calorie starbucks she gets constantly.
That’s the downside to that round, soft, small-chinned face. It’s classically feminine and it looks great in the teens and 20s, but age can cause it to sag dramatically. Plus, that stage makeup is hell on your skin.
Do you have firsthand knowledge about stage makeup? Like, for example, were you a semi-professional ballerina?
No. I have a friend who’s a makeup artist.
She’s a stripper.
My guess is Avon rep.
And, CH, as we did for Pamela Anderson last week, let’s give Britney her due as a reminder of the past:
https://www.google.com/search?q=young+britney+spears&espv=210&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=nwkNU8H8JYmQkAeTjYGQBw&ved=0CCYQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=799#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=SonxPh4b5P1AUM%253A%3BcxKj6SsRkDJq2M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmonkeyblogmonkeydo.files.wordpress.com%252F2011%252F12%252Fyoung-britney-spears.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmonkeyblogmonkeydo.com%252F2011%252F12%252F03%252Fthe-sh-to-super-sh-ty-britney-spears%252F%3B305%3B400
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She looks like a heavy methamphetamine user.
Ya, looking at the current pics again, you must be right. She looks downright awful, like not just for a celebrity, not just for a normal person…she’s fucking way below AVERAGE now and I mean average of any woman walking around younger than 40. She looks terrible and in fact looks like the people in those shows that show the results of meth. Her face is about to melt off.
Maybe so, but I’d still shell out for her show.
She got $8 million for her deal with Pepsi in 2001 – that alone is far more than enough to live off for the rest of her life. She should have quit right then, raised kids and given them a good life, there was no reason to associate further with the Hollywood sewer. Her mental breakdown and her ruined face – from fast-food, and also from alcohol and drugs I bet – were completely unnecessary.
But these people who are stuck in the Hollywood sewer have their brains warped. They become a bit insane. I suppose only those who are ready to submit fully will be dressed up and packaged by the media bosses in the first place. They can tell which individuals they can control even after they have enough money, and which individuals are too independent to be controlled. The latter are never given a chance.
I suppose only those who are ready to submit fully will be dressed up and packaged by the media bosses in the first place. They can tell which individuals they can control even after they have enough money, and which individuals are too independent to be controlled. The latter are never given a chance.
Whether it be entertainment or politics, I’m afraid you’re even more spot on than you fear.
Dude she is literally a slave of the YKW.
She tried to quit but was kidnapped and strapped to a gurney and humiliated on international TV and lobotomized. Literally.
Signing the deal with “the devil” is real.
Even lesser fame guys like John Mayer have let it slip.
Can we see the international TV show on which she was humiliated? I mean, it sounds plausible, but I want data.
The Wall strikes again.
And how. 2/10, wouldn’t bang.
Anyone in their 20s saying they never fapped to Spears is a liar, but I’m not surprised she looks like that now considering she hit the wall a decade ago and that most of her looks were due to airbrushing and makeup. She looked plain even as a teenager if you go by the ‘normal life’ pictures of her.
http://www.teen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/prom-britney-spears.jpg
lets be honest we all fapped to her when she was JB. She peaked early and hit the wall early just like Lohan
never fapped to Hollywood only fucked in real I didn’t fap the first time till I was older he he he
That’s interesting, at that age she was already a performing star wasn’t she, so there are contemporaneous photos of her that look much more glamorous.
Her nose isn’t very nice, and that’s not hidden in the prom photo.
How the mighty have fallen.
Would not bang.
Extreme chasing like this is a direct result of naïve men actually taking rom coms seriously.
When Keanu Reeves goes to the end of the earth it’s charming and romantic. When Billy Beta, it’s kind of a different story. That’s called being a stalker.
That’s why the situation is so appealing in Rom Coms. High value men such as Reeves don’t aggressively chase and they certainly don’t chase across the world. So to a population of women that used to being pumped and dumped it’s chick crack injected straight into the hamster. It’s a pure fantasy.
Yep.
Rom comas are bad advice.
Rom coms are porno for women, nothing more. Any man who tries to “learn” something from them gots what’s coming to him.
Yeah, I said this like a year ago. The male leads in Rom Coms are always desirable men. Even Billy Crystal in Harry Met Sally is portrayed as a bachelor who consistently goes out on dates, scores hot poon, and just leaves the next day. They all have these alpha bona fides — WHICH ARE PRESENT IN THE MOVIE — but the movie just plays up their ‘beta cred.’
What’s funny is that Hollywood writers MUST be red pill — that’s why they’re so good at pedaling the fantasy. They subtly plant ‘alpha cred,’ in the background for their male lead so that it’s a character women would be attracted to. Without exception.
Good point. A good exercise after swallowing the red pill is reviewing movies that shaped our blue pill beliefs, like Harry Met Sally, with a critical eye.
Blue pill men and women can watch the same scenes yet *see* different scenes through different filters. Respect to moviemakers who can design 1 movie to fulfill the expectations of multiple audiences.
A blue pill man sees an ordinary guy who parlays a long, close friendship with a pretty (apparently wall-immune) girl into a loving, sexual romance, then marriage. That’s what I saw when Harry Met Sally was one of my favorite movies and considered a romantic blueprint.
But looked at another way, Harry Burns is a womanizer who chooses to commit to an (apparently wall-immune) older woman over a younger woman (the one with the cake business), just before the older woman’s metaphorical midnignt strikes. Harry should have had hand – Sally’s the one who’s erratic, rejected by other men, rapidly aging out of the sexual market, and radically changes their relationship. Yet in the end, he’s the one supplicating and chasing after her. When they’re married, he conforms to her neuroses.
The movie is fiction, but it can still teach when we know what to look for because it’s designed by experts to sell tickets by pushing the buttons of real men and women.
Be attractive. Don’t be unattractive.
LOLZ. Yes, the two rules of attracting women safely in the workplace:
1) Be attractive
2) Don’t be unattractive
Otherwise, RAPE!
If the Swedish bikini team stalked me because they all wanted to ride my cock in the same time, I’d probably like it. If some chubby butter face stalked me, I’d think it’s creepy too.
Except you’d probably bang her. Either while drunk or else after you ordered her to lose weight.
Women have stalkers, men have groupies.
Groupie rape!
One word:
Ouch.
To be fair, he lives in New Zealand. There’s a fair chance that he’s only seen sheep for his entire life, and this whole “whoa..wait…a human girl?!” thing was a bit too much for him to process. He snapped.
Now he’s sitting back home on the island, talking to Ewegena about “the one that got away”, but she’s too busy eating grass to care.
At least his current GF won’t be pulling the wool over his eyes. Oh wait…
Ewegena. Nice.
It’s especially pleasurable when you shag a sheep at the edge of a cliff – they push back.
“Baaaaa!”
“I love it when you moan like that!”
Someone in the manosphere said a while ago that when girls watch these romantic comedies, they actually identify with the guy struggling to get the girl, not with the girl. Can our female readers comment on that?
I don’t identify with either. I hate romcoms, but the few I’ve watched, my main reaction is: “no guy with any self respect is going to chase after a girl who is this bitchy to him.”
They always make the girl bitchy and the man persistently trying to break through the bitch shield. Or they make the guy high value who gets his heart stolen by the plain girl, or vice versa. They’re so stupid and unrealistic I can’t watch.
Anyone who’s ever worked on a sheep ranch is a liar if he says he hasn’t thought about fucking one. i never did, but a ewe lamb’s pussy looks pretty appealing when you haven’t seen a woman in 2 weeks. I ain’t even ashamed to admit it.
Would I sound really ignorant if I admit I don’t even know what an ewe’s pussy looks like?
Charles Murray’s “bubble” at work.
oh i just googled it and all those pics are grosser than shit. i don’t wanna keep looking cause i’m gonna eat in a few minutes, so i’ll just describe it: Imagine a human vagina, but on a sheep. Now imagine that it’s black as soot. Now imagine that said human-pussy-on-a-sheep pops out two little lambs, and now it’s all stretched and distended and, like… prolapsed or something. Like it’s now hanging off the ewe’s body. That’s what an adult ewe’s pussy looks like.
But when they’re young, man, it looks *just* like a black girl’s.
Geez, the internet is lurid.
You’ll never get away with barnyard sodomy… the pig is sure to squeal.
/Any of you homos touch me… I’ll kill ya.
Bah!!!!
This link has the most recent update that I could find. He did actually get in touch with her, and her response was “lukewarm” and nothing happened. Shock, shock:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11192295
He’s better looking than she is. This man needs a shot of confidence, he could spin plates that all look better than this bitch.
Clue: don’t help girls.
This is going to be turned into a movie: “The guy who couldn’t take a hint”.
OT: this is interesting and makes sense:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/25/us/nevada-las-vegas-police/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Contrary to what laypeople think, a cop who comes to the scene of a minor traffic accident is merely a witness (who arrives after the fact and who saw nothing!) who writes down what the participants tell him. And, yes, tries to form an “expert” opinion on who was at fault by looking at the damage to the cars, skid marks, location of cars.
But the cop is not the judge or final decisionmaker on who is at fault. His report is not really given much weight by insurance companies, as anyone who has been rearended and had to deal with difficult insurance companies knows.
With or without a cop, it is really your word against that of the idiot who rearended you, and you will likely have to fight to get the other guy’s insurance company to pay so you don’t get an insurance premium increase.
Hi guys, I have a FR from this past Friday that I’m hoping I can get some advice on. Basically, I fucked a girl in my social circle that I’ve had my eye on for a while. I’d like to fuck her again, but I’m pretty sure I’ve messed up this sarge. Any advance on how I could salvage this would be appreciated. Sorry, I’ve never written a FR before but I’ll try my best.
Background: I’m no newbie, I have a 2 year LTR and bang 2-3 new girls a month on the side usually from ONS. However for this particular hookup I was drunk so I made some crucial mistakes. Girl is HB7.5 who thinks she’s an 8.5, petite incredible body, 23, ivy league educated, works at the top consulting firm in NYC, socialite out at all the high end meatpacking clubs every weekend, orbiters out the ass, etc. Right now we have a work situation in which we see each other every day and will continue to do so for two more months.
We’re out at happy hour with our coworkers Friday night, it’s a large group with people outside our main group having joined us. I was about to go home but she tells me to stay and have a beer, and I oblige. I start talking to her and another girl, generally chill and social, when some orbiter chode joins us. He’s fairly confident and she knows his brother at Yale and they start talking and she’s shooting him some iois. I figure shes doing this just to annoy me so I leave them in mid conversation to go flirt with some other group of girls.
We all venue change to another bar– it’s now HBPetite, five beta guys and me so a much smaller group. We grab a booth and she sits to my left. I’m on and social and alpha (granted thats not hard with this crowd, bunch of guys who work in tech). I can’t remember the details of the conversation (I’ve had quite a few drinks at this point), but I put my arm around her and start couples kino. One of the chodes makes some crack about how I’m going to fuck her tonight (cockblocking motherfucker), so of course her ASD spikes through the roof, but I diffuse this by self amusingly making a crack about how i have a small penis but I do pretty well for myself. Everyone laughs and I somehow come out looking more alpha through all that.
Then out of nowhere her hair catches on fire (!!!). The stupid bitches in the booth behind us moved the candle on the table to the edge where her hair was. In an incredibly graceful move that really surprised me I put out the flame coming out of her head with my hand in one swoop. This only took about half a second but everyone cheers and I’m a hero. I tell her she owes me a drink. She gives me anime eyes.
We decide to venue change, and somewhere along the line all the chodes decide to leave except for one. It’s now me, HBPetite and Beta guy (actually one of the nicest guys I’ve ever met, and I like him so I’m cool with this.) We go to another bar, she buys me a shot. I’m getting drunk. She’s talking about how guys always buy her drinks, I tell her they’re chumps and she’s buying all my drinks.
I let beta guy do most of the talking while I hold court silently. She has her arm around me now, it’s obviously on. I wink at him. He understands the signal and says he has to go. He leaves, and she says she should probably leave soon. I say I’m walking her home, she refuses. I know this is token resistence so I insist. She says “you can ride in the cab if you want”. This is all the green light I need and I get in the cab.
As we get near her place I of course say I really need to use her bathroom. I make her pay for the cab (lol I have not paid for a single thing all night, not even my own drinks). We get in, she says I have to go right after I use the bathroom and that she needs to throw up (yeah right lol, just bullshit to try to cockblock herself). I go to the bathroom, she disappears for 10 minutes. She comes out wearing nothing but slutty underwear and I think fuck yeah it is smooth sailing from here. Couldn’t have been more wrong.
The shit tests start for real. “You have to go”. I ignore this and go to her bedroom. She sits next to me on the bed. I start escalating, kissing her shoulders, moving down to her tits. She puts up almost no physical resistence. “We should do this in two months when we dont have to see each other anymore”. “I’m not gonna fuck you tonight”. “We’re just friends.” “I’m getting too old for one night stands I need a guy who will date me for five dates before fucking me”. Then she tells me about how she found out her exbf cheated on her last weekend and she went out and fucked a stranger. Basically she’s telling me everything she can to throw me or her out of state but of course I ignore what she says while her body language is still telling me to escalate.
She’s sobering up and her ASD starts going through the roof because we work on the same team and she doesn’t want everyone to think she’s a slut. She repeats all her shit tests over and over and I just ignore them, escalating slowly, getting her bra and panties off. i tell her no one will know. I even start eating her out but she still wont let me kiss her on the lips. I know this girl is horny as fuck but the LMR and ASD are increasing not decreasing.
Basically my problem at this point is that I’m NOT TURNED ON and I have whiskey dick. Usually I’m extemely good at escalating to sex because I’m great at reading microbehaviors and subtle changes in mood and I know that what I feel she feels so I just turn myself on, escalate the vibe and go dominant and I get it. It’s not working because I’m not hard and not turned on. I know if she started kissing me or something I would probably get turned on but she’s not about to do that work for me.
She starts complaining shes hungry. We order wings (she pays). I back off and we shoot the shit until the food comes, but she stays naked so I know shes still considering fucking me. The food comes, I go to the door and get it in, make small talk with her girl room mates who tease me asking me how the fuck I know their friends. I ignore their questions in a chill way and go back. We eat, and she starts trying to establish comfort with me, asking me how old I am, asking me when I realized I wanted to get with her (asking me to qualify her). She even says she’ll fuck me if I’m older than her (I am). Unfortunately I’m really drunk and I dont realize that this is the comfort stage and give retarded cocky funny answers to all this. Shes getting annoyed, starts telling me to go. I tell her we’re going to sleep. I have no idea how to get the lay at this point.
We’re now naked in bed going to sleep. I wait 15 minutes in total silence pretending to sleep. I then reach out my hand and start caressing her ass lightly. I escalate very very slowly to her pussy getting her dripping wet. I start fingerbanging her hard, she ‘wakes up’, I get on top of her and we have great sex. She still wont kiss me lol. We both cum and fall asleep immediately.
It’s now morning time and I know what’s coming. She feels terrible about last night, we shouldn’t have fucked, we didn’t use a condom, she can’t remember how we started fucking (of course she does), she’s never going to fuck me again, I probably gave her diseases and a baby, the typical bullshit. I tell her I feel good about last night and we both needed good revenge fucks. She says she needs a guy who will actually date her. This is beta bait but I’m an idiot and bite, and say that I would date her. I follow it up with “thats not a proposition, just paying you a compliment”, but the damage is done and I look like a retard.
She won’t even get near me. She goes and lies down on the floor next to her bed. Shes still not putting her clothes on so I know she’s telling me escalate this shit and fuck her again in some way that makes me not responsible for it at all. I have no idea how to accomplish this. I go lie down on the floor next to her.
She says “I’m going back to sleep”, and pretends to be going to sleep right on the floor. I figure this is code for “do what you did last night”. So I comply, I only wait a few seconds this time instead of 15 minutes. I get her horny and we predictably fuck again. It’s great fuck mostly because she has a really responsive pussy that you can feel contracting on your dick, I love girls like that they are rare. She comes hard, I come on her stomach, still no condom. She tells me I’m a great fuck. She says “Thanks for revenge fucking me”. She tells me to get out of her apartent, I tell her lets go for coffee, she says no. She clearly wants me to get the fuck out so I leave.
She never did kiss me. “If I don’t kiss him I’m not a slut and it didn’t count!” lol
Monday comes and we don’t make eye contact or talk to each other all day. Same thing Tuesday. I don’t want to talk to her because I’d rather come off as an aloof asshole than a beta chump who got lucky and is going to chase her around for a chance to get it again. Frankly, though, I want to fuck her again, even though I know I made some serious mistakes here that are probably insurmountable. I actually like her, she’s a cool girl who is smart and a challenge and can hold her own.
Any thoughts on how I could pull this off would be greatly appreciated (especially from yareally haha)
–kant
“Basically my problem at this point is that I’m NOT TURNED ON and I have whiskey dick.”
right here is where you are done. by pushing and banging her you proved it, and fed her ego and her momentary desire. you done got objectified sonny.
this girl is a reboot, but only because you fucked up by not understanding your limits. hit the power button, restart the machine, and move on.
Work-related ASD. She’s freaked out you won’t be discreet.
Bang her sister.
Ok that was funny, bro. Props on the bang but I wouldn’t expect another. Seems you bypassed comfort stage and she regrets having sex. Shoulda recorded it so the judge knows she didn’t object.
My personal gauge of how into it she was: if you’re lying on your back and she curls up into you playing with your chest hair then you’re golden, if she scolds, “you gave me diseases and a baby” then you’re bronze
She said no all that time but she let you fuck her twice. she even told you ” you’re a good fuck”
Don’t pay too much attention to what she says, as it is not what she really thinks and wants.
her mouth said no all night yet her body wanted you – twice.
I’m no expert , I am not even a pick up artists but I think if you are careful you can have her again.
She will say she is not interested but you know it does not mean much. keep your cool, soldier on.
I’d say you have 70% chance of doing her again
Stop reading American Psycho.
Bateman is a construct designed to parody feminism.
Your story reads like the early part of the book.
My son, I have but one word for you. Can you guess what it is?
…?
rhymes with ape.
thwack?
Listerine?
maggot?
Courage.
tl;dr?
+1
She says “I’m going back to sleep”, and pretends to be going to sleep right on the floor. I figure this is code for “do what you did last night”.
I actually like her, she’s a cool girl who is smart and a challenge and can hold her own.
LOLZ
10/10 for story, 0/10 for cognitive dissonance
Dude. You’re in. Amused mastery. Throw in a wink now and then. You and her against the world. Conspiracy of two.
Chances are she has a boyfriend and guilt is driving her ambivalence. Just be fun and nonjudgmental.
Correction. Pretend to be non-judgemental.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I think I’ll ignore her for a few days then try to reopen.
lol I’m definitely bronze not gold in this situation
also, I read american psycho like ten years ago, wtf?
Man that was a lot of work! But you’re +2. This was a seriously difficult climb.
I’m not sure I agree with Tilikum, I mean I probably would have backed off when he said just out of exhaustion. But then you wouldn’t get a fuck, she’d still be where she was psychologically and you would not have stimulated the oxytocin to bond her to you. She kept trying to push you to friendzone for hours.
She sounds a lot like my wife. She has a big brain and is often not comfortable in the submissive feminine role. She is also getting confused and panicky about her approaching wall, but with her it comes as anger because she’s a dominant personality type.
I don’t think the “I need a guy who will date me” was beta bait and your answer seemed perfect to me. She was just telling you her very real problem. In fact, she’s left you a green light if you do want to date her. She practically begged you. She wants off the carousel. Whether you give her a place to land is your call.
I think it was beta bait because she’s a young hot NYC socialite– I’m sure the last twenty guys she fucked were ONS or fuck buddies. She might consciously think she wants a relationship, but if she really did she would just date a rich good looking lawyer/doctor/consultant provider beta guy, she definitely meets plenty of those every week and they’d jump at the chance.
She still has a few years on the carousel left
If my game had been better I could have made her into a submissive purring kitten. I got the lay but I really blew it that night.
Nice Gatsby reference.
A couple of learnings here:
1) Game is that differentiator that separates guys who “get it” from guys like this guy who don’t.
2) If he had been the one to say “Find me” and she did, then she would have been “invested” in this case without any investment she has no connection.
3) This was all pull and no push on his part.
4) This demonstrates the fallacy of feminists who insist they want a guy chasing them but are repulsed by the situation when it really does happen.
5) The guy has no game.
6) I’ve gamed girls who immediately upon meeting me add me on Facebook or send follow up messages or approach me the following week at my social circle party.
The guy had no game, he simply had an interaction.
Also women seemed to like mystery and discretion. The very public nature of all this suddenly lowers the guy’s value.
If Brad Pitt had done this she would have been all over him.
Every one of us here have met a girl, got her number and called/texted a few times with cocky-funny and an invite. If the girl isn’t replying immediately or suggesting activities…DROP IT.
There is too much talk on these boards of techniques to spark the interaction but the reality is if you aren’t getting a positive response within 3-4 texts/meet ups, leave it and let her start chasing.
If girls are interested they will always find a way to make contact.
Shark once wrote something to the effect: “never make it too easy for a girl.”
Every one of us here have met a girl, got her number and called/texted a few times with cocky-funny and an invite. If the girl isn’t replying immediately or suggesting activities…DROP IT.
True. Anyone with half a brain can tell when a woman is in no way interested, but understandably doesn’t want to say it out loud because they don’t want the awkwardness and potential conflict. You just leave and move on. Spin more plates. It takes a very dumb beta to obsess over a girl he met once who didn’t want to give him her number. That sounds like he doesn’t have any other prospects whatsoever.
There is too much talk on these boards of techniques to spark the interaction but the reality is if you aren’t getting a positive response within 3-4 texts/meet ups, leave it and let her start chasing.
Well, talking about the techniques are fun, and techniques do help. But you are right, most of the time the outcome is a given. Most of the game is about the macro, not the micro. The foundation, not the sales technique. But the cases where the outcome isn’t a given also exist, and those you need to prepare for. Just like in sales or when throwing out your line to catch a fish. In most cases it will be a given already, but there are some fish that are on the fence.
‘If the girl isn’t replying immediately or suggesting activities…DROP IT.
There is too much talk on these boards of techniques to spark the interaction but the reality is if you aren’t getting a positive response within 3-4 texts/meet ups, leave it and let her start chasing.’
If by drop it you mean ‘invest less,’ sure. But you never know, man. You always want to keep pinging chicks. Sometimes women are just unavailable for whatever reason. I know the numero uno reason cited here is ‘OH SHE HAS ANOTHER COCK DUH,’ but sometimes they’re just unavailable.
So ya, if it’s not redhot at first….invest less energy. But nothing wrong with pinging every few days, then every few weeks, etc. I got this technique from a friend of mine who never sarges. Instead, he’s just built this extensive poon network with techniques like this.
’1) Game is that differentiator….’
I’d say red pill/knowledge of basic evo-psych/whatever is the differentiator.
’4) This demonstrates the fallacy of feminists…’
Ha. Well we all know what they REALLY mean — I wish a HIGH VALUE GUY would chase me. After all, feminists are usually middling or less SMV who are prime pump and dump targets for higher value men.
‘If girls are interested they will always find a way to make contact.’
Ehhhh maybe. Girls live in a world of such abundance that they can get attracted to and like a guy and then just say ‘oh well’ about it. Guys fail to understand this because the life of a guy is so radically different. The validation levels are just ridiculously unequal.
@Scray “I wish a HIGH VALUE GUY would chase me.”
I’ve been dumped for losers. I wonder sometimes if women settle because they’re afraid of an “alpha” so they’d rather live out the fantasy of being with one than actually doing it.
Women are basically lazy. They don’t want to work on themselves so if they can get some beta provider who “loves them for who they are…” then there’s the possibility of trading up.
this plays out, especially with higher end girls.
lazy indeed.
Re: Twitter “Google stock photo of robber”
It’s like where’s Waldo but with black people.
I found him!
Where’s Rollo?
Even “stock photo of black robber” turns up whites with one or two swarthy ones thrown in, not obviously black.
There must be some sort of censoring of blacks in those photos, wonder how that works.
If he was for real then of course he’s an idiot. But, I have a feeling he really did this so that other women would think he was romantic and sweet. It was all a ploy to develop mini-fame and steady harems for as long as this story stays relevant.
+1. Remember double rainbow “all the way?” Guy got laid off that. Look at him. Fame trumps all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Rainbow_(viral_video)
How do you know he got laid from that?
‘Cause Kimmel told me so …
http://mashable.com/2010/07/23/double-rainbow-jimmy-kimmel/
I’ve got an idea
Mmwwwhhaaa!
OT: game is a welcome shock to the corrupt system. If the following fascinating video is true, the systems of the world aren’t what they appears to be: http://youtu.be/XffV3Pqun4E
It’s a 3 hour video!…can you give us an idea of what it is about?
Take off, eh! I did tell you already. Watch 10 minutes and you’ll probably watch the rest.
Just got back from New Zealand. Ugly women. I remember a Willing White Cuckold eagerly telling me that at some time in the future most Kiwis would be part Maori. Well they got it. Paddling canoes across the Pacific favored those who stored fat. Add KFC and welfare = modern Kiwi women.
LOLZ !
I used to bang this Kiwi chick. She was always hauling off and punching me though, and she tried to keep with me beer for beer. Odd broad.
You came visiting? You poor bastard.
I do every 10 years or so. NZ not so bad. Nice White people in New Zealand. Maori’s not so bad either. Maori’s smarter than the average native. One occasionally sees a gorgeous blonde with ? Dutch or Danish background. They stand out in the rough.
Damn apostrophes.
Australia gets a significant level of “immigrants” from New Zealand which also includes the indigenous Polynesian people of New Zealand, the Moaris.
Having lived all my life in Australia, I have seen maybe a handfull (less than half a dozen) HB 7+ Moari women.
Too many of them are build like Rugby players and have faces that resemble short snouted dog breeds. (no offence intended to the dogs in question).
As for the “white” New Zealander women, their accent would have to be one of the least sexy accents in the world.
I tried to tell an acquaintance to go to Colombia instead. But no… he got snookered into visiting NZ. Whatever.
I remember a friend and I went on holiday to NZ for a few weeks back when we were 16. We literally saw not one even vaguely attractive fem. Then on the return journey, we were constantly pointing out hotties to each other in the airport/on the plane. Our standards had dropped so much from just three weeks in NZ, that we thought the UK was some sort of paradise of babes.
Our standards had dropped so much from just three weeks in NZ, that we thought the UK was some sort of paradise of babes.
Sounds like NZ is the UK’s Arkansas. Yikes.
At least the UK picks up hot women from the rest of Europe.
So let’s say this betabro was your nephew or a friend … what is the quickest path to enlightenment for him? The 16 commandments plus a copy of The Game by Neil Straus? What “welcome to reality” gift basket would you put together for him?
Stealing all his girlfriends.
Rollo’s Year One is a digestible, reasonably sized gateway to red pill.
A voucher to a brothel would be nice too. Losing your virginity is a confidence boost. lol
Fascinating because it sounds like the plot to a movie.
Yet no happy ending. Chick didn’t even feel moved by it.
Except to speed dial a lawyer.
Talking about beta males and, cultural Marxism and new-age sensitive men, what do you all think about the song for the new Dell ad – it’s a remake of the song “This Magic Moment”? I don’t know who sings it, but he sounds like a big whiny wimp. I almost burst out laughing when I heard it because I couldn’t believe that we’ve gotten to a point where this supposedly passes for good music by a man. Check it out:
Testosterone has had no place in pop music for some time now.
This demonstrates the fallacy of feminists who insist they want a guy chasing them but are repulsed by the situation when it really does happen.
Sometimes. As always the difference between a genuinely romantic guy and a stalker is how she feels about him.
Romantic comedy-like behavior can get a man arrested in real life. Heh.. that sounds like an onion article.
Oh wait, it is:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/romanticcomedy-behavior-gets-reallife-man-arrested,757/
Re: Robber Stock Picture
Is it me, or this makebelieve mark
seems aroused rather than afraid.
Wow. Just wow.
Such an MRA rapist.
He’s even wearing a fedora.
Looks like a tranny to me… which would explain the joyous look of anticipation.
Does anybody know any good responses to “I have a boyfriend?”
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/i-have-a-boyfriend-responses/
Lol awesome, thanks CH. I’ll give these a test run tomorrow after work.
Have any of you guys used the responses you posted in field? I feel like Heartiste’s “I don’t care” fits perfectly with my personality.
“Is he gay? Cause that would explain a lot.” (Walk away)
“But you stay up real late at night wishin you had a man”
“Not as of …” looks at watch “… 10 seconds ago”.
Hey, Château Heartiste is using my email, I’m getting all warm and fuzzy.
When you read the original story (the one before he had found her) the situation is clear. They were in Hong Kong on New Years, she was away from her friends for a while. He came up to her and had the advantage of being another Westerner where they were surrounded by mostly Chinese. So they spent some time together – we only have his word on how long this part lasted. When she got back to her friends she went with them.
Clearly she said the movie-sounding “Find me” line to let him off easy. If she had been interested she would have given him her phone number, her email or her Facebook. She didn’t. He should have taken the hint and mustered the energy to go after one more girl that year, or yea, maybe even more. Instead he turned obsessive.
I think this case perfectly illustrates the difference between the widespread beta version of romance, and the RealTalk game version. The guy did what would have worked if life really had been like chic flicks tell us it is – those movies that lead to men serving themselves on a platter, their heads surrounded by offered gifts. Instead the world is based on a human nature shaped by evolution, which leads to laws of behavior that are for us to find, not to invent. One of those laws is that obsession over one woman reeks of desperation, and women can smell desperation a mile away and equate it with low value.
This guy’s name will be forever linked to this story through the internet – what are his chances with future women when they see this? He chose that for himself. He is 25 and knows what he was doing. Let’s make sure we can save at least one other guy, hopefully thousands, from such stupidity. Doing the Lord’s work here. And the Lord’s name is Nature.
McKee says he failed in romance before and this was an attempt to bring romance back into his heart. That’s typical. It takes one or more cold-hearted rejections by the girls we’ve idolized before we give up our naive youthful idealism. 25 isn’t too old to run the young man’s cycle. I was about his age when I gave my last, best shot at a rom-com-worthy Love Story.
With Capp, McKee gave his treasured notions of romance a second chance, or last chance, to deliver the goods. Capp obliged by rejecting him in a generic manner. That ought to be enough for a red-pill wake-up call.
Is it cold-hearted whenever a girl doesn’t want you? When you don’t want a girl, is that automatically cold-hearted? This girl let him off in the nicest way she could think of. He had introduced himself to her, she promised him nothing and owed him nothing.
I understand, you probably don’t mean that it’s cold-hearted every time. But this story has nothing to do with cold hearts, only stupid brains, from the man’s side. There is a tendency to turn things into an indictment of women when it could easily be the man’s fault – even in a story that is clearly about a dumb beta. This breeds an attitude that we should guard against almost as much as feminist thinking. Especially when we have keyboard jockeys around, the worst kind of losers, who love to jump in when given the chance and exploit a discussion to vent their bitterness over the women who never want them. The manosphere should be about being a man. Excuses for failure and weakness should be weeded out. People like McKee in this story are not “brothers”, and a woman in a story like this one is not an enemy. Like the title says, he got what was coming to him.
McKee is not red pill yet, but he’s almost there.
Whether he crosses over, we won’t know short of an update, but where he was on last report is familiar. I was where he’s at. Most of us were there. The conditions are now aligned for him to accept the red pill.
His ideal of romance is incorrect, not immoral. He cherished it, as I did. It’s what he wanted his life to be; I wanted a love story of my own, too. Coming off his last failure, he tested his ideal of romance and it failed him, again. Now he knows. With peace of mind, McKee is positioned to let it go, sadly, as a pretty lie and learn the ugly truth.
That McKee honored his desire by committing to finding Capp – and finding her – is a step in the right direction as far as his personal development. The gumption he applied to finding Capp he now can apply to rebuilding himself as a red pill man.
McKee is a brother. And it’s time for him to wake up. The Manosphere is about waking up ourselves and helping our brothers wake up.
Whoa, whoa, whoa…I wouldn’t let her off the hook. While yes, he was an idiot, I’m pretty sure she probably behaved in such a way to lead him on while they were talking (middling SMV chubby girl = loves validation where she can get it)
That’s how I read it. From what I gather, the two danced and talked intimately that night, and she was giving him IOIs. Most are assuming she gave him no contact info, but there’s a suggestion she gave him an e-mail address – ‘kitty cat something’ – but he forgot it.
It could be that if McKee had game, Capp would have, and he could have closed the deal with a ONS, or even the LTR he wants. But, as Rollo might say, McKee was working with the wrong schema.
McKee didn’t close the deal and Capp’s interest in him died out. From there, their paths split off as he went off on his year-long quixotic romantic quest while she moved on.
I had lots of problems with low value women like that. I had far less problems with higher value women.
Low value women have very awful problems and very often hate men. They may hate other women too, but all I know is that I could not handle them and their games.
The intuitive idea that if you can’t get a 6 go for a 5 is WRONG. Go for an 7. If you’re running into the same problems still, then go for an 8. As a minimum, you need women who won’t run “fuck you” game on you, like this bitch who didn’t like the guy but led him on.
But then who will take the 5′s? Well I don’t know, but life is too short for me to worry about that problem. Somehow nature will adjust.
OT, and probably obvious to most of the people here, but this merits mentioning
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-snowden-doc-reveals-how-gchqnsa-use-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-destroy-reputations.shtml
Indeed, that is worth reading. That the NSA actually goes in to manipulate online debates, and that they post false information about people online. Pretending to be “victims” of the person whose life they want to ruin.
There were stories a few years back about a Zionist tool called Megaphone, which they download to highlight stories for each other. Many thousands of young Jews in the West spend many hours every week posting as “regular Joes” about how Palestinians are scum who attack innocent Israel, how Iraq/Iran/Syria is an evil enemy and Israel “defends the West against terrorism”, and how those who oppose mass immigration to the West are evil Nazists. (Sorry, “Nazis”) The program was made in Israel (of course) and was supported by the prime minister. Then suddenly all the stories were taken down.
One of these stories also said that the Pentagon has people “joining the online debate” to “correct facts” about the invasions of Israel’s targets … sorry, in the “war against terrorism”. That link also disappeared. That was maybe around 2005. Seems like the NSA has taken over the task from the Pentagon.
“Here’s CH, a site for fuckin douchebags, we’ll have to spend a long time on this one, Nigel.” “Indeed, Brandon, indeed. I’ll take the first watch.” “Nah, that’s fine. I’ll do it”
Yes, 25 is a bit old for red-pill moment. My son, who given his (inherited) superior masculinity, should be a natural pussy-slayer, had his at age 22 when a girl said, ‘You’re too nice.”
Thanks to some hints from me he recognized what was going on, and requested of me, as his father, to reveal the subtle intricacies of wayz of the wimmin’ folk.
Having witnessed his previous relationship flameouts, I was only too happy to point his way to this site, among others.
Son, if you’re reading this, I’m so proud of your progress. (Maybe now you understand why I divorced your mom.)
+1 (not your son, but still)
Thanks Dad,
Now if only you’d call more
OT- http://www.thecrimson.com/column/the-red-line/article/2014/2/18/academic-freedom-justice/?page=single
Read the comments. They will restore some of your faith in humanity.
True. That feminist venting her hatred of truth-tellers at universities saw her message backfire on her. If they weren’t propped up by the media owners they would have no power whatsoever and their numbers would dwindle to the handful of “egalitarian” psychos you see in every generation – regrettable, but shunned and not many enough to have an impact.
pussy whipdom transcends all races and living generational differences….. moral of the story, that is.
Nigger, why you bringing race into this?
Heartiste,
Brother(s), the very big channels are hearing us, and converting. Keep up the important work; I will follow, and do my part.
Wow. Not wow just wow just wow.
Bit off topic here, but I would love the response of this blogs readers to this women’s article. I’ve been really flummoxed by this child’s thinking, my only thought is she must have caught wind of this blog’s reliance on science to prove it’s themes and had a meltdown.http://www.thecrimson.com/column/the-red-line/article/2014/2/18/academic-freedom-justice/?page=single#
It’s a savvy career by her.
The way to go to the front line as a champion of the Left is publicly take a brazen radical-leftist position, like Wendy Davis and Sandra Fluke did. The Left intends to push our cultural norms as far as they can while they hold the advantage, and she’s setting herself up to be a player in that effort.
She might be trolling, trying to conflate a disingenuous call for limiting academic freedom with the boycott of Israeli universities.
The fact that it’s almost impossible to tell if it’s satire or heartfelt sentiment is exactly what’s wrong with the American left.
* savvy career MOVE by her.
* front OF THE line
She is dead serious, that is no parody. She is a typical totalitarian leftist who gives herself a good conscience.
but…as deppressing as that is…
I read the first 20 comments or so at the link and it gives me hope we can someday defeat the insane left.
first comment; ” … Instead of summoning the thought police, the proper way to combat offensive research is to disprove it. That may take a bit more effort than just whining in The Crimson, but ultimately it is how we progress as a society. … “
second comment ; ” …”Offensive” usually means true, but unpleasant. Hence her demand to silence people who can’t be refuted. … ”
Many articulate, reasonable and logical people are able to explain politely exactly what is wrong with her thinking and with the left.
Maybe we are not doomed after all?
Nicole
I’ve been really flummoxed by this child’s thinking, my only thought is she must have caught wind of this blog’s reliance on science to prove it’s themes and had a meltdown
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How much of the information guys accept from CH is because he has some “study” or scientific “paper” to back it up?
How much of what YOU do and/or try to do is dependent on you having a “study” and/or scientific “paper; or worse,
the support of some “official” white people?
Its essentially a female secondary sexual characteristic, and thats why I come here to lift.
Jeez, won’t you people EVER name the Jew?
She’s YET ANOTHER yenta allowed a stage by her media master tribesmen.
End of story… next.
Sounds like a commie to me. Oh wait…
She writes an op/ed column for her school newspaper. That’s not that big a deal. Heck, I had a regular column in my school newspaper and I had nothing to say.
When the institution is Harvard, it’s a bit more than just a “school newspaper”.
In that sense, yes, but the key was her acceptance at Harvard, not the act of becoming a columnist. The Crimson isn’t the NY Times. Once you’re in as a student, the steps to becoming a columnist are prosaic. There isn’t a stampede of students clamoring to write a regular column. For someone like Korn, fanatical, ambitious, and pursuing radical propagandist aspirations, the rest is easy.
It is a thrill to see your message and by-line in print. I still have yellowed, brittle copies of my columns in a box somewhere. But the behind the scenes part of being a student columnist is unexciting and a drag. It’s like carrying a demanding extra class for no credit that requires you to churn out papers that you can’t just mail in because they’re being judged by the whole campus, go in late at night on short notice to meet with harried, insistent editors of sometimes questionable ability, and sometimes have your work butchered with no warning by some sleep-deprived kid on a tight deadline who hacks off two inches (say, 2 paragraphs worth) at 4 am to fit something else onto the page.
Greg Eliot, in reference to some of your other replies to me, I am wondering when you decided I was Black? As I am of Norwegian descent, it’s not possible to get much whiter then me unless one is an Albino. I am referring to your responses to both my Appalachian crime rate comment and my flight or fight comment.
You must have me confused with someone else…
I recall neither response, and seldom remember my posts beyond the previous two or three topics.
As far as you being a negress, well… your Afrocentrism, your voodoo, your inane n166er-babble, and your blog pictures… pick any one… make it all-too-apparent… nicht wahr?
Yup. Negress, that’s what I’m talking about. Afrocentrism? Blog? What blog? Inane babble? When,where? You must have me confused with someone else.
Beam me up, Scotty… there’s no intelligent life down here.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-snowden-doc-reveals-how-gchqnsa-use-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-destroy-reputations.shtml
If you’re of the conspiratorial inclination.
Anyone who follows even just THIS forum has seen innumerable examples of the strategy and tactics…
Often from the very souls who claim to be red-pillers, but said mentality only stretches so far as the next piece of tail… in all other areas they are To The Cathedral Born, as the saying goes.
Update from Jan 26, 2014:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11192295
“Mr McKee then mustered the courage to get in touch with Katie, sending her a heartfelt email.
However the Daily Mail revealed her eventual reply was “lukewarm”.
“I just wanted to tell you that I’m flattered, but not interested in any relationship or whatever,” she said in her reply.
“It was a memorable night and I’d just like to leave it at that.”
Mr McKee said he accepted her decision and just wanted to reconnect and stay in touch, adding: “I don’t think I’ll hear from her again”.”
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CH: “Moral of the story: Women are so predictable.”
Yep. Capp couldn’t have given him a more generic blow-off. Talk about a typical sequence, from Mckee’s “heartfelt e-mail” to his “I don’t think I’ll hear from here again”. I empathize. Without the famous backstory, I’ve done this, too, with the same result.
I don’t mind that McKee did “go big or go home” with the facebook hunt for Capp because that’s more about him honoring his own wishes and desire than about her.
What I don’t like is that when it blew up, McKee backed down and mea culpa’ed. He should have owned it, instead, and done all the talk shows with a big shit-eating grin. He should have made it all about him and his supercharged, oversized romantic heart, and made no concession that he was doing anything wrong, even when she deleted his online presence. If and when Capp rejected him, he should have stayed cool, acted like he was right, her loss, and c’est la vie.
Was his ploy going to fail? Sure. But he knew that from the start. McKee really slipped up when he didn’t maintain frame and then gave up the high ground.
Tonight, I ran into a “24-year-old-former-fat-girl-never-danced-in-public-before-slut.”
She was deciding between some normal white guy and the kneegro bouncer. She actually told me she would go home with the white guy in a few weeks after she slept with the sub-human bouncer.
Vote Democrat! lol
Thank goodness I refuse to go near the abomination that calls itself Facebook.
You might want to update the article. There was a follow up to this in the papers down under. He actually got to talk to her.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11192295
From the article:
Mr McKee then mustered the courage to get in touch with Katie, sending her a heartfelt email.
However the Daily Mail revealed her eventual reply was “lukewarm”.
“I just wanted to tell you that I’m flattered, but not interested in any relationship or whatever,” she said in her reply.
“It was a memorable night and I’d just like to leave it at that.”
Mr McKee said he accepted her decision and just wanted to reconnect and stay in touch, adding: “I don’t think I’ll hear from her again”.
Her response – just as CH said, predictable.
Sounds like the plot of the “Before sunrise” movie trilogy was running in his head,
dude meets chick in foreign city, spend one night of extremly deep conversations, but no real action, connect on a level us baser males could not comprehend, thanks to our dicks, but go their seperate ways the next morning.
I bet the chick, while crying in HongKongs streets had hoped for a more alpha guy to come and cheer her up ( no chinese man/woman would have approached her, crying in public is not a thing in china) and I m willing to bet that any guy with a little bit of game could have played into that fantasy of the “before sunrise” movies ( she definetly has seen them, munching away on Haagen Dasz, after a bad break up ) you know, cheer her up a little, grap some food, wash it down with some rice wine, take her to a spot with a nice view of the city , make your move, kiss her, take her to your hotel room.
but here is teh problem, HE was imagining himself to be in a movie, and SHE played into that with her cryptic line, thats chick flick gold,
…Sunrise over HongKong, shes getting ready to board a taxi after a night of deep, veryy deep conversations.
” will i see you again?” beta boy asks coyly
she hugs him, slight kiss on his cheek, whispers in his ear “find me”
song starts playing but very quit, taxi departs, betaboy turns around faces the harbour, sunrise beautiful, song on full blast now , its coldplays the scientist, camera zooms out slowly over the guy, skyscrapers appear, credits start rolling…
Dibs on the script!
Crying in public shows that you’re pump and dump material, unless something serious happened(your parents died in a horrific car crash, your sister killed herself, your room mate microwaved your cat). If you can’t control the emotions aroused by being in a foreign city and separated from friends for a night, then you’re pathetic, even if you’re a woman. Kind of funny though that this guy couldn’t help himself but act like a wimp because of an ugly girl with emotional issues.
http://motivateurself.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/slap-a-bitch.jpg
Sometimes when things are not going well its easier to live in the past. That is probably what this young man was doing.
But the world is moving fast and anyone caught out of step is going to be punished with these feelings of burning shame, horror, and even fear.
Your daily diversity story. Drive by circa 1991. They’ve all seen Boyz n the Hood, yet nothing changes.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/25/3959704/three-young-people-shot-in-liberty.html
Just sitting on your porch or standing on the corner minding your own business when some guy comes up or drives by. It’s an age old story.
lol on another note chick intelligence has brought us this
The “Guv’mint” voted in by Chicks and Manginas wants to X-Ray Your Car
http://auaria.com/?p=49
fun times ahead!
Beta of the Year?
While McKee didn’t suffer in real terms like other BotM candidates, I would nominate him because his framing, words, and actions fill out a beta romantic script on a Hollywood level. McKee thought the fantasy was real. He tried to bring it to life with Capp as his heroine. He is a model example of a man who lived and breathed the pop culture version of the love story and wanted one more than anything else.
What ties it together for BotM is that after all of McKee’s melodrama, and the ensuing fame and drama, Capp responded with a generic, indifferent ‘I’m not interested in any relationship’ blow-off. The teachable moment is, in the end, the Hollywood beta romantic love story he obsessed over and worked so hard to bring to life meant nothing to the girl.
One more element to add to McKee’s BotM candidacy:
When the story went viral and Capp was tracked down, just as McKee wanted, he balked, apologized, and backed down.
Whatever the suspect nature of McKee’s fantasy, we could at least respect him if he had rode out the wave of fame and drama – that he had caused – with self-assuredness, a cocky grin, and a cool hand.
McKee didn’t get the goal, but he did set an ambitious goal and achieved it. Strangers did his bidding. He could have banked it. Maybe not as he originally, fallaciously fantasized, but he had a real success in hand. Instead, he was too weak to finish what he started and retreated.
* McKee didn’t get the GIRL
Serenading and flowers were very effective in wooing slave girls that were plentiful in powerful states that crushed and enslaved their rivals.
It actually wrong to think one needs to be more “alpha” anymore than the right temperature is always more heat. Understandable with nothing but princesses around though.
Romance a Polish chambermaid if ya gotta.
Many a princess has sent her White Knight off with sweet promises if only he slays that quite large dragon over there first, then sweated bullets when he returns.
Bill Burr Explains Why Yoko Ono Sucks
Thank God SOMEBODY finally explains it!
It was a suspicion I harbored all along… but wasn’t EXACTLY sure of until now.
(((duckface)))