PrettyWi$e, a possible troll whose question nonetheless serves to impart a useful lesson, asks,
My girl sent me a nude about 20mins ago… And replied saying “oops wrong number”. I will admit it did get under my shit, but should I even respond to such crap?
What this reader’s girl is running is a form of Reverse Eavesdropping Game. Or, if you prefer simplicity, she has dropped a massive shit test on him.
This is why I suspect the reader is a troll. A common troll tactic on game blogs is to lie about a girl the troll “knows” who uses the game tactics found here to befuddle men. The suspicion is justified because in the real world women hardly ever resort to arcane male game tactics to get men into bed. If a woman wants to bed a man, she only needs to look cute enough and signal her availability.
Troll or not, if you play the field you will encounter the occasional playette who co-opts male game for shits and giggles, or who loves to incite dramatic bursts of jealousy to externally validate her sexual worth. You should know how to handle them.
The correct response to a girl “accidentally” sending you a nude she wants you to think was meant for another man is “bad lighting”.
Other good responses:
“you and ur dad have a weird thing”
“gay”
“lol”
“lame”
“nice save”
“if you want me you just have to ask”
“your flirting technique needs work”
The attitude of indifference and non-reactiveness conveyed by these responses is what matters. There are other responses that would work well, as long as whatever you say has an air of nonchalant condescension and assumed high value. The brilliance of such a reply is that it simultaneously robs the manipulative girl of a victory dance while instantly flipping the script so that she is on the defensive, riddled with doubt about her attractiveness and scrambling to regain the upper hand.
Game doesn’t have to be this malevolent to work, but some girls are just begging for the hamster whip.
PS If this reader’s scenario ever happens to you, it’s a good bet the girl wants you badly and is showing it by making you chase her. Think about it. If a girl really did accidentally send you a nude of herself meant for someone else that she didn’t want you to see, she wouldn’t follow up with an implied apology. She’d go into hiding and hope you don’t bring it up. Or she’d already be two steps out the door on you and in that case not give a shit what you think about her antics.
PPS Another countermeasure to manipulative bitch game is radio silence. If you don’t respond to her incitement to jealousy at all, the next time you and her meet she’ll be chin-deep in hamster turds wondering what you’re thinking about her mischief-making. Keep up the ruse of feigned obliviousness as long as possible, even post-coitally, and she’ll hardly be able to contain her frustration with your inscrutability. An added bonus is that this gives you time to determine if she really is cheating, and to execute the “pump and surprise dump” finishing move should you discover she’s been disloyal. “Ah, that was great. I hope I left some in your tank for that other guy you’re banging. You’re gonna need it.” Right after, toss a razor blade at her. She’ll probably need that too.
How about “Is this your pre lipo pic?”
lzozozooz
My girl sent me a nude about 20mins ago… And replied saying “oops wrong number”. I will admit it did get under my shit, but should I even respond to such crap?
lzoozozozozo
DA GBFM: ya wrong numberz da right number is 34D lzozozoz
now that was funny as shit
> “A common troll tactic…is to lie about…”
TWO POINTS.
1) TROLLING WORKS, AND THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL KNOWS IT:
Why Trolls Start Flame Wars: Swearing and Name-Calling Shut Down the Ability to Think and Focus
02/25/2014
http://www.zerohedge.com/print/485337
Psychologists: Internet Trolls Are Narcissistic, Psychopathic, and Sadistic
February 15, 2014
http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/02/15/1852235/psychologists-internet-trolls-are-narcissistic-psychopathic-and-sadistic
How Obama Is Using the Science of Change
Apr. 02, 2009
http://iepecdg.com.br/uploads/artigos/090402_grunwald_behaviorial_obama.pdf
The Secret Side of David Axelrod
March 14, 2008
http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2008-03-14/the-secret-side-of-david-axelrodbusinessweek-business-news-stock-market-and-financial-advice
2) THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL IS NOW SPENDING YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO SPREAD ITS POISON THROUGHOUT THE INTERNET:
It’s true: Government agents are infiltrating online communities
Feb 26, 2014
http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/02/26/its-true-government-agents-are-infiltrating-online-communities/
Get back on your meds, Zombie.
Go back to the Ukraine and starve another 10,000,000 Ukrainians to death in the Holodomor Part II.
Fuck you, you filthy jew mother-fucker.
er, ok.
wtf does that got to do with titty size?
It has to do with your anus size.
How big of a gaping anus that Cass Sunstein can leave you with after he fucks you in the ass with YOUR OWN tax money.
Sunstein and Axelrod and Bloomberg and Summers and Bernanke and all the rest of them are fucking you right out of the history books and straight into oblivion.
“…Cass Sunstein’s Harvard Public Law working paper, entitled “Conspiracy Theories”… shockingly includes a step-by-step set of instructions which pays government operatives to lie about people to utterly destroy their credibility…”
February 26, 2014
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3127506/posts
“The existence of this behavioral dream team — which also included best-selling authors Dan Ariely of MIT(Predictably Irrational) and Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein of the University of Chicago (Nudge) as well as Nobel laureate Daniel Kahneman of Princeton — has never been publicly disclosed, even though its members gave Obama white papers on messaging, fundraising and rumor control as well as voter mobilization. All their proposals — among them the famous online fundraising lotteries that gave small donors a chance to win face time with Obama — came with footnotes to peer-reviewed academic research. “It was amazing to have these bullet points telling us what to do and the science behind it,” Moffo tells TIME. “These guys really know what makes people tick.””
Apr. 02, 2009
http://iepecdg.com.br/uploads/artigos/090402_grunwald_behaviorial_obama.pdf
“ASK’s predilection for operating in the shadows shows up in its work. On behalf of ComEd and Comcast, the firm helped set up front organizations that were listed as sponsors of public-issue ads. Industry insiders call such practices “Astroturfing,” a reference to manufacturing grassroots support. Alderman Brendan Reilly of the 42nd Ward, who has been battling the Children’s Museum’s relocation plans, describes ASK as “the gold standard in Astroturf organizing. This is an emerging industry, and ASK has made a name for itself in shaping public opinion and manufacturing public support.””
March 14, 2008
http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2008-03-14/the-secret-side-of-david-axelrodbusinessweek-business-news-stock-market-and-financial-advice
OMG OMGZ Z HEA?RSIYETZZT HEARTIETSSEZ!!!
DA CHICKZ WOMENZ STOLE DA GBFM’S WRONG NUMBER TEXT GAMEZ!!!!!!
3 EZ STEPZ: How 2 Handle FLakesz and Flakey Flakerz in da ERA of da TEXT MESSAGE attention whorez zlzlzozozz
dis is from hearteites blog on FLAKEY FLAKE ERA WE LIVEZ IN where everyone flakes zlzozozoozoz while da gbfm sits at home and waits for da chcix who cflaked flaked on your asssss lzozozzolzolzol:::
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/the-age-of-flakes/#comment-38162
how 2 counter da flakey flakesz in THREE EZ STEPZ
1. 9 PM: da gbfm sends out a mass text 2 all my ladies:
“lotsa cocksa 4 u lzozlzlz.”
da gbfm then gets back dozens of messages:
lol
wtf
ok
haha
???
kewl
wat?
2. da gbfm waits and hour and sends out to everyone again:
10 PM: “srry wrng #”
da gbfm then gets back lotsa texts
awwww
lol
too bad
u got my hopes up
damn you
ur loss
3. da gbfm then waits ’til midnight and texts to everyone:
12 Midnightz: my place 30 min.
den da gbfm sits back and watches the parade arriving on his door camera monitor while he watches da espn highlights and reads homer’s odyssey. ding-dog ding-dong they ring da gbfm bell one by one hoping to touch da gbfm’s ding-dong zlzozozzozololzollzo but if they are under an 8 da gbfm just ignorez & reads his boookz zlzozoolzz
at 1 am a hot hottie shows up and da gbfm hits the buzzer and lets her up.
da gbfm saves lotsas times and money while the betas liquor her up at the bars and da gbfm gets to hang out with homer instaead of goldidggers and douchetard boobie-men manboobz at all the clubs these days lzlzllzlzl
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do nottry this on your own as da GBFM needz you out there buying them drinkz all night and getting them dinnerz as i don’t want no hos eating my puizzaaa and heinekinz beerz!!!! we all have our part in this so please please respect yo!!!!! lzozolzolozzzz
lzozozozozo
still a good one gbfm, we know it well.
hey everyobodoyzyz!!!
regarding the expression, “She does it for shits and gigglez,” what the fuck does dat meanz, and where did it orginainatesz?
“For shits and giggles?”
Who does anything for shits and gigglesz? WHat does it meansz?
What woudl make you both shit and giggle? Whay would u wnat yto?
lzozozooozozoozozoz
calling gas buttox….
I like Bob Saget’s conjunction: shiggles
“Just for shiggles, let’s say…”
“igg”?!?
“Just for the hell of it” turned to “Just for the shit of it”, or “I don’t give a shit”. Then add giggles simply because they share an i as the first wovel, so it sounds a little bit like rhyming.
OTOH , currently the biggest Reddit Blue Pill Trolling Website on the Internet ( apparently inspired directly from Reddit’s Blue Pill forum). Will give your money back if you don’t laugh/make a faggot/cunt cry.
http://www.Auaria.com /How Homosexual Men Enjoy Female Privilege
What is interesting now that I’m more aware of how girls work, is how often they use this complete stupidity on guys, especially excuses like ‘my phone got stolen’.
The only thing I can think is that its a mix of their sophism, and that these excuses work on most males.
Bishes be leaving their phones on the bar all the time. I told one to put it away last weekend cuz it’s gonna get stolen. She says, “I have insurance.”
Oh, silly me, what was I thinking.
Her: “‘my phone got stolen’.”
You: “It’s good you make up for your clumsiness by having pretty eyes, but I’m unsure we could ever work out”
I got a text from a girl I met recently: “I’ve been told to tell you that should come and meet us next Sunday”. I was suppose to meet this girl twice before Sunday yet she messages me one week in advance to invite me to hang out with her and her friends.
So ok … “you’ve been told to tell me” … aha … womanese for “don’t think I’m inviting you to come”
HER: “I’ve been told to tell you that should come and meet us next Sunday.”
YOU: “Only if you promise a threesome between me and you and that chick who orders you around and enjoys dominating you.”
I see a lot of calling out of trolls on this blog… my take is that if it adds value then let it be. It’s the sincere non-troll blue pill people that need to be ostracized.
You do realize that most of these ‘trolls’ are just CH making fodder for game analysis.
“youve gained weight”
Or more fun:
“pre-Jenny Craig?”
“Mom? Is that you?
> “youve gained weight”
Is this your way of telling me that you’re with child?
Response: This Picture: http://www.thebraiser.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/geraldo.jpg
My contribution to the manosphere from 2012, reader mailbag #4 is eerily similar to the tactic, worth a revisit.
>>
I moved back in with my parents and I started lying about my living situation because too many vaginas sealed up.
I started telling girls that I lived with my ex girlfriend and couldn’t move out because she was still in love with me. Ergo sex at the girls’ places. Bingo. Proceed.
However, I need a way to keep my leads warm so I tried this exchange on two cold girls [where I] pretend my ex gf finds my phone.
… out of the blue, after regular texting game …
me: ”hey, how do we know each other”
… silence or no response …
me: 2 mins later, “where did we meet”
… by this point the girls start to clue in that it’s not me on the other end and they’ll reply with something short ….
me: ”this is Tim’s ex girlfriend, i want you to know that I am still in love with him, stay away from him, he doesn’t love you”
… the one girl I used this line on responded by saying OK…
me: (to both girls) “did you sleep with him?”
… I didn’t bang these girls, one responded with a smiley face and the other cold lead said, “he’s your ex now, so relax”, NOT ONE GIRL DENIED SEX.
>>
Here’s the link from the archives…
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/05/11/reader-mailbag-options-instability/
+1 Devious. I must try it.
Oh damn, I like this. I know it doesn’t need to make sense but what is the rationale for staying in a roommate situation with a woman who is in love with you.
What do you tell them when they ask.
My current excuses for always going to their place aren’t as good as this.
my tips on doing this….
– maintain strong frame.
– the ex must be still in love with you. (otherwise it quickly becomes a story of a girl using a beta male for resources)
– you let her stay there , you still have sex with her , you don’t want to kick her out until she has somewhere to go.
– don’t say anything about you loving her, being in love w her, or her doing anything for you. You choose her to stay, you are her protector, you are doing her an immense favor. -> maintain this frame.
– don’t verbal diarrhea it, you can get caught in your own lies. Keep it short and simple. The less details the better for both you and the girl you are interested in.
“don’t verbal diarrhea it”
That’s a good context independent advice though. I do have moments when I’m trapped in my head thinking about what interesting thing to say next before I remind myself that I don’t have to.
i realize i didn’t answer your question.
the living with ex excuse works because of Preselection. It’s the best excuse I could think of after trying out several. It takes a negative and turns it into a positive – I actually started looking forward to selling this line – i might use it again on a girl if I don’t want her to know where I live.
The ex has my phone narrative works best if the girl you are seducing knows you are in close contact with your ex, shared living quarters is an excellent plausible example. I suppose it can be used out of the blue just don’t expect it to pass the BS test as frequently without having a good backstory.
So I suppose there are two unique game techniques presented here… a DHV for when logistics make your place unavailable and a way to warm up cold leads with the ex stole my phone trick.
You don’t want to kick her out until she has somewhere to go. Thanks. I can sell that easy. I like that it’s a preselection DHV too.
my ex ALWAYS steals my fucking phone
So funny, I had this happen to me but I believed it was the ex-gf. Now I wonder if it was game.
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My Buttox will soon make…
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At that time, it will be your honor to…
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I laughed.
Amy, you heard the man.
Never… gets… old. lozozlzozozlzozozlzlzl
Amy: looking just like the dude sitting in a recliner in that old Sony ad.
Okay, I admit it… most droll.
“Amy, you heard the man.”
I’m not talking to you for calling me a femcunt and cutting my comments the other day. *tosses hair*
And I’m not bringing the movies, either.
These techniques bring tears of joy to my eyes
Thank u.
Very nice, CS.
How about “Ha! Ur thumbs r too fat”
Golden
Or: “Pointy elbows. 2/10, would not bang”
I think Kevin James used the “hammer thumbs” gambit on a hot girl in one of his movies.
“Showing off your man thumbs, girl.”
“If a woman wants to bed a man, she only needs to look cute enough and signal her availability.”
lol, I call “bullshit.” There are still lots of us men who are chaste despite being hit on by women, including very attractive women. One pretty, slender, young blonde reached her arms around me at work to type on my keyboard and was always signaling her availability, knowing that I am married. She was unsuccessful in her attempts.
Guess what? Virtuous men also hold the Sex Gate–not merely the Commitment Gate.
She might not have been able to bed you, but if she’s cute enough and signals her availability she’d be able to bed a man. You’re not all men so you can’t reject her on the behalf of all other men. So CH’s observation isn’t BS.
[CH: My comment was a general statement about the kind of “game” that women need, and I should have clarified when I said that cuteness and availability are the primary factors influencing female romantic success that a man’s desire has to factor in as well.]
“You’re not all men so you can’t reject her on the behalf of all other men”
That surely is a pretty good attitude to have though. lol
yep girl game is simple
S.weet H.appy E.xquisite
I’d also argue that voice is a huge factor. I can’t fucking stand girls with low voices. It is a serious turnoff like nothing else.
And those damn pointy elbows man.
Something about the above story fails to add up.
SO SEXY!
i like the last option the best…from a beta point of view because most women are beta. imagine when you send a girl a nude of yourself lol and then follow up with oops wrong person. in a ploy to gain attraction.
and she doesn’t reply. then next time you hang out it is never mentioned. it might drive you insane wondering whats going on in her head. depending on if you actually didn’t give a shit or not.
could you hid the urge to ask if she received the pic? lol
if the girl isn’t a complete cockwhore, she’ll probably ask you if you got the pic in which case you can bust out one of the first responses
I think that’s the first time I have seen someone refer to women as beta. What we call game is not something women do or need to do. Their attraction comes almost entirely from being, not doing. It’s a bit like saying the deer is not a good hunter.
It is something they have to do when they get older or the man is more attractive and they are terrible at it.
> “It’s a bit like saying the deer is not a good hunter.”
You can go ahead and remove the “a bit like” from that sentence.
I think they are starting to need it. At younger and younger ages.
A good antidote for game does not exist at all. As CS relates, girls can’t even communicate honestly with each other, so feminism is about as far as they’ll get, and that worked because it fit an agenda of some powerful men (Frankfurt school.)
“Holy shit, that was you? Huh. They’re right. Camera does add 20 pounds.”
Follow up with: “And exactly how many cameras were on you?”
What about forwarding the pictures? Or is that too unethical?
Yes, forward it back to her with title “look at this fat slag”. Wait 5 mins and then go back with “ups, wrong person”
Lmao!! This one is my favorite.
A poem for Lara :
The oceans grandly parted..
As I precisely farted..
Towards my Buttox, Lara darted..
To Detox them, she started…
With the $5000 fee, she parted..
From the gina tingles, she smarted…
-GB
“you can do better”
nicely ambiguous
Radio silence. Remain above it all.
I like to notice something in the background. The lamer, the better.
“Is that a MacBook?”
That’s the way I’d go. Brilliant.
That’s funny but mostly to guys. The girl would see right through that and wouldn’t move you in the right direction.
I agree with pulsotic. When I was in my teenage years, I used to make these silly comments about something I saw around the girl, but it never elicited the responses I wanted.
Tbh, if a woman sent me a nude picture and then said that she sent it to the wrong number, I’d want to reply with ‘who are you’ and I’d keep pretending I don’t know her for a while. Not sure if it works, but it would amuse me, which would be the point.
All these responses are transparent stabs at her self esteem. She’ll know exactly what you’re doing. I’d just say disregard it all together and change the subject entirely. Indifference means no snarking or backhanded compliments.
“lol you’re such a dirty slut”
That was my first instinct. I like it.
You made two mistakes in “She’ll know exactly what you’re doing.”
1)assume that women use their brain; if she’s reasonably good looking, she’s probably an airhead
2)even if she does use her brain and does know what you’re doing, it doesn’t matter what her brain wants, but what her pussy wants. And the latter would want your cock in it.
I’d agree that she’ll instinctively know what he’s doing. I honestly think cheerfully calling her a slut — in a dirty-talk kind of way — would be a solid play.
I don’t dispute that. I think the problem most men have is that they come across as judgmental instead of playful when they call women sluts.
[CH: Sexual judgmentalism is good for society but bad for pickup. If it’s the lay you want, better to make a girl feel comfortable opening herself up to you.]
Ya, it’s gotta be like ‘ur such a dirty slut i love it’
Plus, sexual judgmentalism happens any way — in action, rather than word. There’s a reason why women with high N counts are left wondering why ‘confident, independent’ them are still single at 35. Men came, saw they were damaged goods, pumped, then dumped. Or maybe they came after they pumped…ha.
“You little minx, you. “
because THAT never works…..except it does.
girls are dumb and easy to trick.
“2/10. Would not bang”
I was going to say:
“6/10″
Other good response,
I do believe your gynaecologist is gonna want to see you again …
“Your mom’s nipples are bigger”
LOL’ed.
Comment of the week right there.
Yo’ mama retorts are played…
In light of the fact that most of ‘em still haven’t cut the Gordian Knot of mama’s skirt, the Millennium generation’s new form of dozens would be:
“My mother’s nipples are bigger.”
lzozozlzlzozozlzlzozozlzlzozozlzl
I really saw her moms nipples they really are bigger lolzzzzololzzzlzolzolzzzzzlolzzzzz
he he he
I’m going to call troll for one reason, and one only: This is an insane* tactic for any woman to take.
Most women are acutely aware that nude pictures have a way of getting out beyond the intended audience. Sending a nude is something that sane women generally reserve for someone we don’t think is going to sell us up the river by posting that shit to one of those revenge-pr0n sites or sending it around to all their friends or whatever.
Now, there’s plenty of room for error there—maybe the relationship goes sour later on or whatever—but to send a nude and then *immediately* follow it up with something *deliberately* designed to piss the recipient off? That’s just begging to have your T&A plastered all over the Net for potential employers to find 10 and 20 years down the road.
Now if the post had been, “She sent me a text out of the blue that said ‘LOL you’re hilarious, keep being you,’ and then followed it immediately with ‘Sorry wrong #’…THAT I’d believe.
*Yes, yes, I know: Some women are indeed that crazy. If an actual woman ever does this to you, please make sure that any bunny rabbits that you may own as pets are carefully secured.
“Now if the post had been, “She sent me a text out of the blue that said ‘LOL you’re hilarious, keep being you,’ and then followed it immediately with ‘Sorry wrong #’…THAT I’d believe.”
Yes, that’s the type of thing I’ve done in my petty moments. You have to keep it ambiguous. I can’t understand why a girl would want to do something so nuclear, that basically screams out, I’m cheating on you! How does that not backfire?
you think too much…manipulative
Agree 100% with both of you. No girl would execute the tactic described in the OP, definite troll. And I’ve had the “txt meant for someone else oops” tactic used on me before…and have actually used it myself, tho my version was a bit more nuclear.
Please do elaborate
“you need to abort my baby”
“oops text meant for someone else”
lol
I agree. I don’t know a single woman that thinks that being a whore is good so even if this girl did cheat on the guy and send nudes to others, she wouldn’t say sorry, wrong number, she’d tell him that she thought of him, so he wanted him to think of her too until the next time they meet or some crap like that. The reason why it makes sense for guys to do this tactic is because it hints you have other girls. Positive thing for men, negative thing for women.
no pic…opinion doesn’t matter
A+
It doesn’t count as such if the face is not visible. No risk involved there.
You’re not too bright are you? Of course she didn’t send a nude with her face displayed.
Pffft. You don’t have to display a face to be identifiable. Piercings, tattoos, moles, scars, birthmarks.
Whatever ho. Potential employers ganna check out your tatts, moles and piercings and cross reference them with nudes he’s seen on the net…riiight. If you happened to be caught out in public naked would you cover your face or your tits and pussy? I bet the later because you’re stupid.
Snerk. If you’re going to call me stupid, you might want to check your comments for typos first. The word you were looking for was “latter.”
It’s still a stupid play. No girl is going to make a guy she’s interested in think she’s whoring around, unless she’s just looking for a ONS.
“How to Get a Girl to Send Nudes of Herself” is one of the most popular threads on this blog … Lots of trolls. Lots of selfie-nudes on the net.
Text Game is insipid-chasing-infantile. But, here we are – no going back.
Send a nude – wrong # – I’d reply back with a picture of my king size bed.
You Naked and My Bed.
Setting the conTEXT of the conversation.
Preferred Response – SILENCE
Other Responses-
“yawn…”
“Oh, in that case I didn’t just [post it on the internet/facebook] [forward it to all my friends]”
“Hey bitch, stop sending nude pictures to my boyfriend”
Depending on how long you’ve known her – “wait, who are you again?”
“NP, let’s keep the lights off from now on, OK?”
“wait, who are you again?”
Have you tried that one? This is the reply that went through my mind when I read the situation.
> ““Oh, in that case I didn’t just [post it on the internet/facebook] [forward it to all my friends]””
Damn, and I just uploaded it to xhamster with Justin Bieber background music.
“Other good responses:
“lol””
Hah! I must be getting good at this.
No, if you were doing it right, you’d send one of those huge emoticons in a non-sequitur fashion.
How can you spell non-sequitur correctly but not pajama ?
One more:
“NP. My mom was using my phone when the picture came in.” I like this. It reduces the long term relationship potential to ZERO.
“Definitely asymmetrical.”
“foreshortening is not ur friend”
?
Lame.
Intentionally.
OP says, “My girl”
That’s too vague to know what’s going on. If it was an LTR he would have said “girlfriend” and she wouldn’t have followed with “oops” unless she was dumping him.
Yet “my girl” is too possessive to be a short term thing.
Admiral Akbar says, “It’s a troll!”
I would like to add “Ew” to the list of potential responses
‘have you gained weight?’
On Text Game… question about some subtleties with iMessenger, which says “delivered” and also “read” to the sender.
If a girl’s responses have gotten shorter and you want to move the ball back into the 3/2 territory by being less available, do you:
a) Ignore the messages so she never gets a “read” back on her end?
b) Read the messages so it says “read” but don’t respond?
Unclear that I want to move to option (c), where I think there’s an option in settings to never send a “read” receipt back to the sender. Unless somebody can make a good case for that.
“(c), where I think there’s an option in settings to never send a “read” receipt back to the sender”
There is such an option? I’m tired of clingy idiots using the read notification.
“b) Read the messages so it says “read” but don’t respond?”
If you don’t want to respond at the time, simply don’t read her messages until you want to answer. That’s what I do. If somehow she asks why you took so long to read the message, say ‘blow and prostitutes’. Or I’d simply tell her to think of ways to make up for being needy/clingy by the next time we meet.
When my mother asks my father where is he going when he’s about to go out, he usually tells her ‘to see other women’ or ‘to a brothel’. As a rule, I think playfully dismissing the concerns of women is the way to go. This is just me though and I wouldn’t call myself a PUA.
Okay, the 2/3 rule (and all of the 16 commandments) should be taken in the aggregate. Like, over the course of the relationship, you should have adhered to those rules.
In ANY PARTICULAR INTERACTION, tho….your only goal is to get what you want. So, instead of thinking ‘how can I get the ball back into 3/2 territory,’you need to think ‘how can I fuck this girl?’ Usually the solution is to stop fucking chatting and just use txts to get her to meet you. Only chat in txt if you NEED TO BUILD VALUE.
Also turn off the ‘read’ feature on your phone — that way she never knows if you’ve read the message. The good case is simple — you can do whatever you want. You can read the message, take some time to think of a good response. Plus, she doesn’t know for sure if you’re ignoring her. When you can be mysterious, be mysterious.
Turn off iMessage. The time/energy micromanaging that it forces you to do (like you’re describing) isn’t worth the very minor drama benefit you’ll get out of it in return (I experimented with it a bunch when I had BBM). And if you give a shit about seeing whether she’s read your message yet or not, you’re too invested in the outcome and should be out meeting 3 other girls to txt at the same time so that you don’t care when/if they respond. Gives you time to think, too…which can be beneficial because quality of txts is more important than quantity. Girls and beta guys go for quantity, you should be aiming for quality (every txt has a purpose, intent, pushes things towards a meet up, etc…you don’t have a 20 min txt convo about the cute thing her dog did today, you’re a man with shit to do).
I tell girls my iMessage is broken.
@YaReally yes, the idea of worrying whether she’s seen that you’ve read a message smacks of co-dependency.
When I find myself wondering or worrying whether a girl has reacted to a message I have to stop myself literally by saying “Stop”.
The only girls who don’t respond to texts at all are girls who aren’t invested.
But if you’re gaming a girl and she’s responding even if it’s a day later, then there’s investment and interest.
two text rule.
she doesn’t respond to two texts, delete her number cause she’s a reboot
Muffin-top; where’s the bakery?
PS: lie like that again, and it’s the contempt-of-court-handcuffs for you, missy.
The possible-troll called her “My girl” so the best advice depends on their relationship. If she has pledged to be sexually exclusive to him & then pulls a move like this, it’s instant dump city. Dump as you wish: radio silence/ ghosting, get amped up & dump her with gusto & name calling, etc. If she’s fabricating the implied other recipient that she “meant” to send it to, she’s too dishonest and overgaming to be good LTR material, so dump. If she honestly meant to sext someone else, then of course she needs to be dumped so being a cheating slut.
If the possible-troll calls any girl that he’s gaming “My girl” and this girl hasn’t pledged exclusivity, then use CH’s tactics and continue gaming. But keep in mind that she’s still P&D material, not LTR material.
If it’s not a troll, we’re dealing with an extremely liberal culture he’s in. I can’t imagine any of my 4 girlfriends letting me know she’s cheating on me even in the Jimmy Carter way. He would have had to have never discussed or implied that she was expected to be exclusive with him = beta. Alphas fully expect one way loyalty.
What exactly would happen if you just said “Who are you sending that to?” and “Are you cheating on me?”
They would send it to someone else. And cheat on you.
I don’t understand this example. If doing this does incite jealousy, then isn’t it a dealbreaker that she’s (possibly) texting nudes to another guy?
I’ve played this game but I make the message more ambiguous.
“I don’t understand this example. If doing this does incite jealousy, then isn’t it a dealbreaker that she’s (possibly) texting nudes to another guy? ”
Yes, this makes it seem rather clearly a troll. That said, there’s value in examining it nevertheless.
“I’ve played this game but I make the message more ambiguous.”
You send nudes then follow with a message like “Sorry, I task the yellow zen of forgetfulness with realtering the time waves to disallow my past’s future actions?”
If not, you should.
This begs the question though, assuming that you’re real and assuming that you more or less match the pictures you put up, in what possible way would you need to play games like that to get a guy interested in screwing you? It screams of needy insecurity. Sending nudes is great, trying to incite interest through jealousy when it is not necessary for a woman to do is…lame.
Lol, it’s not about getting a guy to have sex with me, it’s about getting him to commit to a relationship. It’s also a gauge of interest. Does this guy care that I *may* be hanging out with someone else? It’s petty and stupid I know, but it can work.
I wouldn’t do nude pictures in any context, not even with snapchat, unless it was deep into a LTR. Girls who do this casually are nuts and devalue themselves, imo.
What guy would commit to a relationship when not comitting is getting him nudies? Any guy knows that where the comitment begins the nudies end.
Two assumptions:
1)men are rational; this is obviously false because more than 10% of men are getting married
2)women are rational; this is obviously false too for similar reasons.
I wouldn’t send any reply, but just for fun:
“Where’s the apron?”
forward it to all of your friends
When many people take a mirror pic, they look at the screen on the phone, not through the mirror and into the camera. This makes them look cross-eyed, something occasionally useful to point out.
“Manipulative Women”
Being a bit redundant, aren’t you CH?
This is what I would reserve fat birthday cake cat for.
droop
How about “meh, seen better”
“Hey! Your mom’s cute!”
i would have said, “make sure he buys you dinner first”
How ’bout texting her back a few hours later saying it’s only pulling a 4/10 on hotornot.com?
LOL
Genius!
“tl;dr”
“Eh, I sent it to the guys so I’m sure he got it”
“What’s her name?”
“She joining us tonight?”
“marry me?” … “oops, wrong number”
“marry me?” … “oops, wrong number”
Nah. Then if you aren’t gone, you’re a loser whose proposal was rejected.
Shortly after the divorce (and still very, very pre-red-pill) I had dropped off the kids at the ex and then, having just texted her, accidentally sent a text meant for my gf to the ex. Ex texted back with an acid “wrong baby” but her attitude towards me changed quite a bit. I didn’t know why, then; now I have, occasionally, used “accidental text” game to middlin’ effect.
You mis-spelled “diddlin’”
Most droll… (((golf clap)))
A girl I work with has been randomly opening me on the weekends, talking about dumping her boyfriend to have casual sex, discussing the benefits of friends with benefits, etc, very obvious attempts at validation. Then pulls away when when I try to sexualize it, one time just saying “i’m gay, i like women” over and over, and most recently she did that reverse easedrop thing, ‘accidentally’ sending me a message about meeting up with somebody. I just went with silence for a response.
She always shit tests me really hard at work, and I feel I do a good job of passing them. We have lots of kino and good rapport. I feel like there’s something there, assume the sale and all that, but I don’t know what to do with it. As bad as my game is in real life, it’s even clumsier and more clueless with texting
She ain’t worth your job, bro. All she has to do is raise a stink with HR and your ass is grass. Fuck with your money, and you’ll live regret it. Remember: M.O.B. — Money Over Bitches.
“i’m gay, i like women”
That’s a relief because I’m gay too, so it wouldn’t have worked out.
Don’t bother with a woman you work with. It’s just not worth the risk when there are plenty of women who can’t get you fired.
I doubt the scenario unless it was done as a joke. Women don’t “accidentally” send nudes. But they do try to make you jealous on purpose.
This is something I don’t handle well usually surfacing the issue by calling the girl out on whatever shitty behavior she’s displaying. That has resulted in a blow out.
Radio silence only goes so far. My ex gf would go nuts if I went radio silence.
But now 4 months after our break up and some contact which only resulted in another blow out, I’ve gone No Contact completely for a month.
She came out to our weekly social event last week and had obviously invited an orbiter who she made a point of making it clear she was talking to.
Without projecting too much it seemed to me she was doing this attention-grabbing talking to get a reaction from me.
I didn’t reaction and didn’t react at all. But it did get in my head for a few days.
Jealousy is a toxic emotion and getting it under control does take adjusting inner game.
Bring a younger, hotter broad to your next weekly social event and make it clear that the two of you are fucking. Watch as your ex’s hamster explodes right before your eyes. Yeah, bitch. Two can play at that game. Only you’ll do it better, because you can.
You’re doing great with the No Contact, wala. I’m sure it’s killing her.
@Amy yes, was back to square one a month ago but so far no-contact.
@Hair, I think that over-thinking making someone jealous is too much work.
I believe in “organic jealousy” otherwise known as pre-selection: talking to girls in a normal way and how that plays out becomes congruent. Showing up in a different way is as try-hard as my ex flaunting some dude in front of me. The more you engage, the more you’re into HER frame instead of just doing whatever it is I want.
The problem with upping the ante frankly is that girls are much better at this than guys because girls are better at being psychopaths who don’t care.
Nobody told you to talk to the new broad you take to the social event in an unnatural way or grab her tits in front of your ex.
“Showing up in a different way is as try-hard as my ex flaunting some dude in front of me. The more you engage, the more you’re into HER frame instead of just doing whatever it is I want.”
Why do you even care what she thinks? By caring what she might think, you’re in her frame anyway. Would you enjoy the social event more if you had a date? If the answer is yes, why would you care for what an ex might think and not have a date on purpose.
This being said, even if she thinks you’re there to make her jealous, you can go to her with your date and tell her that you’re glad she’s with someone too because you would have hated her suffering from loneliness after you two broke up because you surely enjoyed your time away from her. Smile and leave her proximity. If she no longer has an orbiter, ask her where her boyfriend is because you hate seeing her alone after you two broke up.
Omg, no. Don’t do this, it’s so obvious. Don’t approach her AT ALL. Where is YaReally.
@Amy, Ninja, approaching her on any level is a mistake. I did this before. I think if you truly don’t care it would be fine. But in my case I was messed up. I think these tactics only work if you’re truly not invested.
Girls are better at not caring, because they don’t if they’re turned off. Their psychopathic strategies are limited though. I think you’re overestimating it, because it is stunning (still, to me, too) how much they don’t care.
But a girl has no good counter to competition. And I’ve hardly observed one to hide her feelings about it either.
I could speculate about why. But that’s my observation. It works very well.
As an overall observation, wala, you’ve told us a lot about your social circle and your various wins and losses within it. Obviously you’ve done pretty well. But what is to stop you from bringing in someone new? Yes of course it’s cheating, that’s how you win a game you’re not supposed to win.
It’s also a valuable exercise if it gets you looking a bit beyond that social circle, don’t get “one-itis” of being stuck in just one social circle.
And it costs nothing, all upside. Within a social circle, there’s no activity that’s so costless because everyone can observe, discount, gossip, remember, etc.
Just befriend her new man. Steal him away from her if you can. Start a heated conversation about football with him in front of her or something. Doesn’t have to be football, but something she won’t be able to join in on.
Spot the alpha male
http://img2.owned.com/media/images/1/1/5/6/11561/so_close_yet_so_much_fail_540.gif
The dude that biffed it; easy.
alpha males don’t post on websites
so you’re not an alpha male.
If understanding and being in control of my life makes me a alpha-beta-gamma-omega, matters not. NOT being in control and understanding what is happening is the worst.
Every situational post on here – be it text game or game-game – just boils back down to frame.
In this order, you must be:
1) aloof
2) charming
3) a bastard
And congruent, though I think that’s the foundation upon which your pillars rest. Otherwise, nicely and succinctly stated.
I think congruence is more important than anything. Depressed, low energy, but congruent is probably better than vice versa.
[…] a good post on Chateau Heartiste about how to game manipulative girls and I just realized…fuck, I was […]
“Hey, it looks like you have a small lump in your right tit.”
Went to but condoms at the convenience store by my place today.
Was in this cute cashier’s checkout line, but the guy next to her was faster and cleared out faster, so I went to his line.
I lay them on the counter and say, “Wednesday’s hump day.” He and I had a laugh and I could tell he was fist-bumping me I’m his mind.
So should have been in her line. Condom game. It’d be pretty good social proof, right?
Only if they were Magnums, or Magnum-Ultras.
I am seriously on my way to my namesake. Meanwhile I’m ready to bounce out my pita girlfriend. For all my playas out there, holla at me in Tampa Bay.
Reply: “Who is this?”
Listen at 0:19 for big laughs.
A prankster’s take on the older man/younger woman pairing. The raven-haired broad at 0:27 is visibly aroused by the older gentleman, playing with her hair and grinning from ear to ear. The dude she’s with is at a loss for words.
Here’s the one I was talkin’ about:
I hate when dumb cunts comment about what’s appropriate for other women. ‘He’s too old for her’. Well, maybe you’re too fat for your boyfriend or maybe your personality is too crappy, but you won’t see me comment about either in public because it’s not my business.
One must always chain the hamster. Whipping is optonal.
Work on ur abs
A good response would be: “bring the movies”
You can give the same answer if a girl send you a picture of her kissing another guy…
“Just a nude picture? You can do better. Send me some movies”
That’s a wierd looking kitchen (assuming nudes are taken in a place other than kitchen)
I don’t think this would be a good reply because you’re making it about her environment. I doubt girls would get the joke or consider it funny. The ‘where the apron’ one is better.
I like making fun of girls by saying ‘that’s what she said’. If you use it well, she won’t know if you’re being serious or trolling her. In the end though, social interaction should be about you having fun, which is easier said than done.
Non sequitur picture reply :
http://www.epicfail.com/2009/08/26/sexy-fail-5/
Wasn’t it here at the U. of C.H. that I learned the default response of:
“….”
I did the pump and surprised dump on this chick I suspected was cheating on me. It was never confirmed but it as a gut feeling along with all the signs. She was getting cold, distant, projecting, etc…All the signs of a cheating sloot.
We went out to eat since I was hungry (I obviously made her pay). The conversation was almost non-existent. I was too busy eating and thinking of how I could pull this off right.
We left and went to my house. I banged her raw twice and said, “Hurry up, you need to go home.” She usually liked to cuddle and shit but I wasn’t having it anymore.
Anyway, before I dropped her off, I gave her the “we need to talk” line. I look at her and there’s dread in her face. I didn’t say it outright, since I wanted to see her squirm for a bit. I have to admit, it was amazing to see just how quickly a girl can change her emotional exterior in an instant. They really are emotional chameleons…
I finally told her, “This isn’t working out; I don’t want to see you anymore.”
She started yelling saying, “This is ridiculous! How could you fuck me raw…two times and try to leave me!! I haven’t done anything wrong to you!! Why?!?” By now she’s tearing up but I’m not buying into her con.
I stayed silent. I unlock the door and motion her to leave. As I drove away, I looked back into my side view mirror only to see her walking away with hands cupped onto her face in a form of despair. A mutual friend told me I had broken her heart since she was depressed for a few weeks, but I didn’t care. I knew my gut wasn’t wrong. I made my list once and checked it twice.
I didn’t know it at the time but a cold, ruthless, unforgiving player was being created that night.
Dignity over bitches every time!!!
beautiful story, brother.
another example: trust your gut
“This is ridiculous! How could you fuck me raw…two times and try to leave me!! I haven’t done anything wrong to you!! Why?!?”
Imagine a beta herb saying this, but replace fuck me raw with take my free drinks and leave me with not fuck me. Good job.
Even before knowing game, I initiated most of the break ups because relationship game isn’t a problem for me. I usually struggle with the initial moments of interacting with girls. What’s funny is that I banged an ex of mine because I was in a rut a couple of weeks ago and she has a boyfriend. It’s pretty funny being the other guy because women are honest only to the other guy. She will open her heart to you, just like she’s opening her thighs.
@Jordan
Trust your gut. I had a similar situation which I suspected but handled badly.
Had I been less emotionally invested I would have done what you did.
If I suspected that a chick was cheating on me, rather than fuck her raw I’d do something like try and fuck her anal (with condom) and/or blow on her face and then do what you did.
If she is cheating, then fucking her raw puts you at a higher STI risk and also leaves the door open for an “oops” pregnancy or for her to fuck with your head by claiming pregnancy afterwards.
Sounds like a Hollywood hit: Eat. Lay. Shiv.
The phrase “try to leave me” is interesting, she was so used to having hand that she said that rather than just “leave me”.
I guess her broken heart was from lost confidence. She didn’t have hand, maybe for the first time ever.
From the feed:
“In an interview published Feb. 18 in The Daily Iowan, President Sally Mason said she was dismayed by the reports of sexual assaults. She said “the goal would be to end that, to never have another sexual assault. That’s probably not a realistic goal just given human nature, and that’s unfortunate. …”
Criticism erupted over the phrase that includes “human nature.”
I’m not even sure which part they’re upset about. That rape springs from (uncivilized) human nature rather than being a social construct created by the evil white patriarchy? Or that she said “human nature” instead of “male nature”?
Anyway, it’s clearly time to simply outlaw the written or spoken word. Force newborn babies to undergo laryngectomies, and burn down all libraries. After all, guns have the power to kill and that’s reason enough for liberals to want them banned. Language has the power to hurt, so it also must go. Same for fire, cars, pretty much everything that separates us from the Stone Age. We’ll communicate by painting on our cave walls and grunting unintelligibly at one another, like most of the Democrats’ constituency does already.
Is that final paragraph your own, have you added it to that comment thread, and if so what response(s) if any, did it recieve?
Perhaps the orcs are finally admitting theyaren’t human. If dwls buy into the whole speciest complaint they can milk a few more decades if guilt from not only Whitey but the chineese, beaners, indians, etc.
Kill n rape
Drink the grape
Built like a muhfuckin ape
“I’m not even sure which part they’re upset about. That rape springs from (uncivilized) human nature rather than being a social construct created by the evil white patriarchy?”
This. To them, suggesting that rape is a product of basic human nature is tantamount to a “boys will be boys” excuse for all sexual assaults.
Girls that send nude pics have always given me that “she’s crazy and has family issues and daddy issues” vibe. And you have to be extremely beta to respond to this in the wrong way wtf. and she obviously isn’t ‘your girl’ if she is sending nude pics and saying that….definitely fuck her one more time and next her ASAP what are you thinking
As for a great game reply to an “accidental” nude. The best reply is the one some other poster here had in relation to a girl trying to tease him into asking her out:
“Never as good as advertised”.
I’ve used this reply in a variety of text chats when a girl shit-tests something that she has she thinks I want.
[…] PrettyWi$e, a possible troll whose question nonetheless serves to impart a useful lesson, asks, My girl sent me a nude about 20mins ago… And replied saying “oops wrong number”. […]
“damn, (insert a different girls name here) we haven’t done this in a while now”
Don’t even need to make up a different name, just the ambiguousness of the comment, followed if needed by a disclaimer (oh, never mind) will be plenty.
Heartiste please comment on this: http://deadspin.com/hs-coach-gets-ethered-by-girlfriend-on-fb-resigns-amid-1531919487
Whenever I get a nude from a woman I reply with, “Told you to not send these when I’m at work.” That works great if she has never sent you one before since she starts to wonder who is sending you such photos. Then when she says it wasn’t for you, you can send a note saying, “Sorry, thought you were someone else.”
When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a rainbow flag and wearing a strap-on.
“Not bad… could use some airbrushing.”
This all reminds me of a text I got from a friend this past weekend–she’s a girl, hb8, late twenties.
she said she got drunk and naked skyped her dad. he told her to put clothes on and would look away until she did. she said she didnt care but he insisted.
Bitches be cray.
The behaviour would have been much different if a fear-of-God-putting beating, or at a minimum a head-turning slap-and-backslap would have been in the cards.
See our own resident snowflake.
O/T:
I am assuming everybody heard about the Duke freshman (or at Duke, “freshwymyn”) porn actress. At least one commentator has some red pill insights:
http://theothermccain.com/2014/02/27/special-snowflake-belle_knox-and-make-believe-feminist-empowerment/
No, not really. I’m sure most of Chateau’s followers have better things to do than getting twisted in a pretzel about the latest sulfurous eructation from the pluto-kleptocracy’s propaganda outlets.
Lozlolzlolz. Hey Heartzitsze!!!
It’s “societal ills” that force black men to commit crimesz!!!!
Not their own behaviorz!!
http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/27/3962976/obama-plan-aims-to-improve-odds.html
Holy fuckballs, Batman. That first sentence is loaded with such bullshit to set the entire story’s tone.
“Long before he arrived at the White House, Barack Obama was the son of a single mother, challenged and tempted by the same societal ills that disproportionately keep African-Americans impoverished and behind bars.”
Being half-white, I guess Obama was only half mentally damaged and was able to overcome alleged damagement.
Just like our thwack!
That sentence isn’t even correct from a linguistic point of view, which shows that journalists are worthless scum. Was Obama’s mother challenged and tempted by the same societal ills that disproportionately keep African-Americans impoverished and behind bars? English isn’t my first language, so I might be wrong about the correct syntax.
The biggest bullshit in that sentence though is that blacks can’t help themselves from committing violent crime because of societal ills.
So those black men can reach their full potential.
But the worst thing is, when the affirmative action slots are taken by hispanics reaching THEIR full potential, it robs the blacks of their future.
As we close out Black History Month, let’s have a good cry about this.
Response:
‘don’t worry, I deleted it already’
FCK, UR pregnant, dumb slut!
Reply with the exact same picture, then with a message “HEY LOOK AT THIS PICTURE THIS GURL SENT ME, OOPS WRONG NUMBER”
nextlevel
That’s try hard.