Here’s a theory which I don’t think has been expressed elsewhere, because it seems on the surface to challenge long-held conventional wisdom among the pro-truth, anti-feminist crowd that feminism was the result of an unruly alliance between alpha males seeking to enlarge their pool of attractive, single women and ugly omega females seeking separate status whoring avenues where they wouldn’t have to compete with married mothers on their turf.
Most avowed feminists and feminist leaders are dog ugly, so that part of the alliance rings true. But what if it was beta males, rather than alpha males, who were the other prime movers of Boomer feminism? (Boomer feminism was the beginning of the really warped variety of feminism that supplanted suffrage and Prohibition.) Did beta males enjoin the feminist sabotage of civilization because they thought it would cramp the style of alpha males? The betas probably didn’t grasp the long-term consequences of their project, but crippling their competition was the short-term goal they had in mind when they allied with the femfreaks. They were probably thinking (beneath the layers of socially presentable equalese), “Aha, elevating women to positions of power will help kick out those entrenched alpha males and level the male playing field. More poosy for us!”
Poor pathetic beta male feminists. Little did they realize that helping women become economically self-sufficient and freed from the “slavery” of marriage allowed them to ignore betas for the sexy alphas promising nothing but a good time. The one bit of leverage beta males bring to the sexual market table — their emotional and financial provisions — they trashed in a fit of spite against the jocks they hated in high school.
That’s my theory. I think it makes sense in light of the whiny resentment modern “male feminists” like John Scalzi reveal toward incorrigible charmers who defy the logic of gender politics and not only suffer no consequences for their impudence, but profit from it.
it’s almost like they extended the bad-boy-period of women decades further than they could previously afford. used to be a lot of late-twenties, early-thirties girls were ‘done’ with bad boys. no more. and bitter betas like that refuse to change with the times.
quantitative easing = easing large quantities of debt into the common man’s bungholzozlzozizlizlo ozlzozzlzizlzizl.
quantitative easing = easing large quantities of debt into the common man’s bungholzozlzozizlizlo ozlzozzlzizlzizl via copius amountsz of paul krugmansz lubes zlzozoozoz
just as tcuckeer max rheyems iwth godlman sax is sceleebrated celbratered by da neoeocnths for butcocking woemnsed and taping it in secrteiev tsecrteive tapings of buttehxtext, the fed has scetrteive meetings wherieng they plan the amount tehy are gong to buttcocck da ocmcmonsz mans zlzozizzlzizlz.
zlozozolzolzozol
“Why are Americans giving up their citizenship?
The number of Americans giving up their citizenship has rocketed this year – partly, it’s thought, because of a new tax law that is frustrating many expats.
Goodbye, US passport.
That’s not a concept that Americans contemplate lightly. But it’s one that many of them seem to be considering – and acting on.”
readi it all herez — http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24135021
lzolzozozozozo
Other possibilities:
1. Did they hate their fathers who were absent (busy re-building America post-war) and identify with their mothers?
2. Did their fathers check out emotionally following a brutal Depression and war (thousand yard stare), leading to baby boomer resentment?
3. Were the baby boomers propagandized by a growing Feminist (cultural Marxist) movement to sympathize with their poor, oppressed mothers in the kitchen at the expense of their rough and tumble, old-fashioned patriarchal fathers?
Just a few thoughts.
3. Were the baby boomers propagandized by a growing Feminist (cultural Marxist) movement to sympathize with their poor, oppressed mothers in the kitchen at the expense of their rough and tumble, old-fashioned patriarchal fathers?
This make sense. Cultural Marxism is just a particularly virulent form of liberalism. In its less extreme form, liberalism states that you shouldn’t offeeeeend anybody and hurt their feeeeelings, because, you know, bullshit is just as valid an opinion as truth. Unfortunately, when men walk on eggshells trying to apply that ideology to women, it blows up in their face, but they can’t understand why because of their commitment to the ideology.
Young feminist guys today are just timid losers who go against the interests of their own sex (and humanity itself) in an attempt to gain acceptance from females.
I remember when I was in university (recently) I’d see these White males with pins all over their jackets, backpacks, etc saying politically correct slogans like “Challenge sexism!”, “Challenge racism!”, etc. Almost without exception, they were in the bottom 20% in physical attractiveness and had an appearance of very low testosterone (often fat or bony, super narrow faces and shoulders, patchy facial hair, etc). An average looking guy using his body to say “look at me, I’m politically correct” would’ve been even more of a freak show in a sense.
Meanwhile, the more competitive, high testosterone “alpha male” types are typically more interested in attaining high status among other guys and take their acceptance by females for granted as long as they remain this status.
That was my comment, not supposed to be anonymous.
Makes sense, but I suspect the reasoning would have had less to do with consciously wanting to displace dominant alphas and more to do with the general beta mating “strategy.” Betas try to curry favor with women by supplicating and appeasing them. Self-defeating feminism seems like a natural extension of that tendency. “Women will love us when they see how committed we are to furthering their interests!”
Beta males are liberal males who try to apply their warped ideology of never giving offense and treating all opinions equally to the mating game.
You hit the nail on the head.
Feminism was created to transfer wealth from men to the central bankers/statists who are typically beta (beranke) in nature.
Feminism is centered about the foundational myth and lie that men have oppressed women throughout all history.
This lie/myth serves the erver-present mission of compensating women for their supposed oppression via money. And who will oversee the transfer of wealth from men to women? The central bankers/statists, who will, of course, receive a cut.
Add up the trillions spent on divorce, welfare, child support, “sexual harrassment” programs/alwsuits, women’s studies departments/etc. and one can see how the central bankers/statists pocketed trillions while also laying claim to a man’s children (in addition to his wive’s asses and his assets zlzozlzoz) so as to raise them in a bernankiifed daycare system to teach them the Lie of the State, replcaing God the Father with Bernankelzozozozo the Banker.
The Scalzis are the useful idiot betas who are jealous of true men and manhood and thus rage against them on their blogs. The central bankers/statists publish the Scalzi books so as to teach men that success = raging against manhood like their TV shows teach you to do.
zlzozoozozoz
As men are the ones who create, build, invent, fight, build, invent, make, and create WEALTH, of course the bankers are going to create FEMINISM to go after the assets of men via divorce/sexual harrasment/welfare, as MEN have all the ASSETS while owmen only have their ASSES, and it is a lot easier to transfer assets (which appreciate in value) than it is to transfer women’s asses (which depricate in value with each and veery bernkifieatcionsz zlzozlzoz) zlzozozoozoz.
Feminism allows the bernakez/tucck maxz rheyme sitwh goldman sax to desoul women in colleeg via sexcterly taped butcthezx, and reporrgram them to work for he fED, spy on men, seize his assets, and present them to ebenrkes nabnkers in divocre, alimony, child supportsz, teh divorce industdry complex lzozlzuzzkzli
you switch keyboards recently? you’re running well over 90% non-dyslexic spelling here, i could barely read it
lzozlzozoz i misplacedz my riatalaingssz prescictropoon da scool nurse gave me but do not worries because i found it and am felelimng much muchc betetersz! !lzozlzuzlzozzozl
IN TRADITIONAL WARFARE, THE CONQUERERS WOULD KILL THE MEN, SEIZE AND ENSLAVE AND SLEEP WITH THE WOMEN AND SEIZE THE CHILDREN AND TEACH THEM TO BE LOYAL TO THE NEW KING.
IN MODERN WARFARE, THE CNETRELA BENRKEKE BANKSTERS USE FEMINISM TO SLEEP WITH AND BUTTOCCK DA WOMENZ IN COLLEGE, ENSLAVING THEM IN DEBT AND FORCING THEM TO WORK IN THIER CORPORATIONSZ, SEIZING THE CHILDREN AND TEAHCING THEM TO BE LOYAL TO BENEKEKENKE IN STATE SCHOOLS, AND SLOWLY KILLING THE MEN IN DULL, BORING, DEBT-SLAVING JOBS, ROBBING THEM OF THEIR DIVINE RIGHT TO A VIRGINAL WIFE, FAMILY, AND PROPERTY.
lzozozlzozllzo
IN TRADITIONAL WARFARE, THE CONQUERERS WOULD KILL THE MEN, SEIZE AND ENSLAVE AND SLEEP WITH THE WOMEN AND SEIZE THE CHILDREN AND TEACH THEM TO BE LOYAL TO THE NEW KING.
IN MODERN WARFARE, THE CNETRELA BENRKEKE BANKSTERS USE FEMINISM (DIVORCE/WELFARE/SEXUAL HARRASMENT MYTHS) TO SLEEP WITH AND BUTTOCCK DA WOMENZ IN COLLEGE, ENSLAVING THEM IN DEBT AND FORCING THEM TO WORK IN THIER CORPORATIONSZ, SEIZING THE CHILDREN AND TEAHCING THEM TO BE LOYAL TO BENEKEKENKE IN STATE SCHOOLS, AND SLOWLY KILLING THE DIVORCED MEN IN DULL, BORING, DEBT-SLAVING JOBS TO FUND THEIR WIVES PRESENT AND FUTURE BUGTCCOCKINGSZ AND CHIRLDREN THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO RAISE AND TEACH, ROBBING THEM OF THEIR DIVINE RIGHT TO A VIRGINAL WIFE, FAMILY, PROPERTY, AND LEGACY CELEBRATED IN THE B GREAT BOOKS FOR MEN< WHICH THEY USED FMEISNSIMZ FEMINSM TO DECONSTRCUT DEBAUCH AND DESTORY DESTORY ZLZOZOZOZOZO.
lzozozlzozllzo
There are no bigger betas on the planet than the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Then you can spread their corrupt ideas down the ladder for the other betas. Betas for Satan.
Betas for Satan.
Pretty much it.
I’d say that’s a good bet. Who’s more likely to take a woman bullshit seriously and give in to her demands? The beta.
Or if you believe getting lots of poosy makes you an “alpha”…then the alphas are just as beta.
Women are the gatekeepers to sex…so taking their bullshit tingles seriously and giving into her sexual demands seems as beta as taking their bullshit ideas seriously and giving into her monetary demands.
earl is correct–the alpha is ruled by womenz butt and gina tingaleslzlzozo with eveyr word, every neg, every statement motived by the master butt and igina tingalallszllz.
alphas are slaves to butt and gina tingalsllslzlz
whereas jesus lived free
lzozozoz
If your butt is tingling, you should probably go to the doctor. Butts aren’t supposed to tingle. You might have some pinworms or roundworms or something up in there…you really ought to get that looked at. Alpha or beta, there’s no reason for you to be a slave to butt tingles. They have medication that will take care of it for you.
lzoozozo my dearest lost little lamb RappaccinisDaughter,
waht da GBFM is sayig is that “alphas” speak and act so as to make a womenz butt and gina go tinzgzzlzlooozozzo so dat women offer them tehir butts and ginasas zlziuzizzk
ergo, an “alphas” words and actions are dictaed to va a womans butt and gina tinzgzlzozlziuzzlzolzuzlzzo
go forth RappaccinisDaughter, and be free as the truth sets ye free zllzzuizuzlzzozlo
lzlzlzozlzoz
You’re a stupid bitch. You know damn well what he meant ho.
I’m just going to go with Occam’s razor here.
Increasingly modern technology allowed more women to enter the workforce and were thus emboldened by the prospect of independence and self-sufficience. Thus the snowball began rolling.
Beta conspiracies to overthrow alpha overlords? Lol. Yeah, they hatched that one late at night on internet forums.
Hey Sad Clown,
Have women created more wealth or debt in the workplace?
If you have a fucking brain, you’ll see that overall, the West has created far more debt than wealth since feminism was instituted, you dumb fuck. Not to mention the fifty million+ aborted souls, which, unless i miss my guess, makes sad clown a happy clown.
zlozozozozo
Lol. C’mon GBFM. Where did I say women in the workplace was a good thing? Or anything about debt?
Hey Sad Clown,
If you have a cock in your ass, against your will, and you yell out, “Help, I have a cock in my ass against my will!” We will laugh at you and say, “what silly conspiracy theorist sad clown is zlzozoozozozozzooz obsessed with buttehxt and always complaining lzozlzozo where’s your tinfoil hat sad clown? put it on your butt!”
“Sad Simon Lives Again.”
Sad Clown
“I’m just going to go with Occam’s razor here,” so as to cut off the balls of other men so as to level the playing field for sad clownz lzozlzozozoz
Contraceptives are responsible for feminism and, ultimately, the decline of the white race. Women naturally, without any birth control, end up having about 8 children, maybe even more, throughout their lifetime. A woman always pregnant and/or breastfeeding an infant her entire life is not able to have a ‘career’ or any of that silly nonsense. Her own biology determines her role in life, the role of mother (more specifically stay-at-home mother), and she can only be ‘independent’ with the invention of artificial birth control technologies. The IUD, condoms, and birth control pills were all invented by J-E-W-S.
Second on the contraceptives….without those…the spread of evil would be much slower.
You can thank the fevered ideas of Margaret Sanger for that.
zlzoozozo
zlozozozoz
If that’s true then the Jewish leaders really are dumb.
Spread deviant behavior amongst the Gentiles but don’t engage in it themselves so that their religion benefits? They are nothing more than the Pharisees in Jesus’s time who put burdens on everyone else while they went through unscathed.
Perhaps they skipped this part of the NT.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+23&version=NASB
zlzoozozozoz
lzozozozozoz
My fam love j
Male weakness is the cause of all the problems that the West faces today.
Christianity imposed a social structure on our barbarian ancestors that allowed unprecedented numbers of weak beta males to breed. For a time this worked, making society more civilized and shifting competition for mates from the military to the economic realm.
But while a little bit of beta in a society is a good thing, a society that is too beta is in big trouble. Women’s suffrage occurred because too many men were extreme betas who were unable or unwilling to simply tell women “no”.
The rise of game is a sign that we’ve reached peak beta, as men who are cursed with beta genes are forced to study and practice mannerisms and techniques that come naturally to alphas, in order to achieve reasonable levels of access to women.
Game is the first sign that men in the West are recognizing the need to fight their beta genes return to a more barbaric, masculine way of life. But game alone will not be enough.
you stooopid stoopid beta fucktard!!! YOU HAVE IT EXACTLY BACKWARDSS YOU STUPID FUCKTRADITRY FUCKTARDZ!
you write, “Christianity imposed a social structure on our barbarian ancestors that allowed unprecedented numbers of weak beta males to breed. For a time this worked, making society more civilized and shifting competition for mates from the military to the economic realm.”
no you stupid FUCKTARD. Christianity imposed a social structure on our barbarian ancestors that allowed unprecedented numbers of ALPHA males (capabale of HONOR, MATH, POHILOOPSHY, AEXLATED ART, RELIGION) to breed. THATS WHY CHRIATAINAINTY EURPORE FUCKING ROCKED THE WORLD YOU STOUPID FUCK!
The bankersz cenrtal bankerz got rid of CHIRTSINAITY so as to allow an unprecedented numbers of weak beta males to breed with slutty slutz wlefar slutz zlzooziuzzkzloz and grow the welfare state to suck assets from men to pay for the spawn of druggies, tattooed lsoer primeieteive beta males and gamma malesz lzozzizl
“no you stupid FUCKTARD. Christianity imposed a social structure on our barbarian ancestors that allowed unprecedented numbers of ALPHA males (capabale of HONOR, MATH, POHILOOPSHY, AEXLATED ART, RELIGION) to breed.”
Alpha males don’t need social structures to help them breed, they’re already good at breeding, that’s what makes them Alpha. Especially in barbaric societies where violence plays a role in the competition for mates.
Beta males are losers of the sexual marketplace, they need social structures (like the banning of polygamy) to help them breed.
Christianity took mates from alphas and gave them to betas, because it disallowed polygamy.
Math, philosophy, art and religion are not necessarily the product of Alpha males. Nerds are often excellent at math, that doesn’t make them alpha.
STOOPID FUCKTARD STIRKES AGAIN! just syain’ zlzozoozozoz
lzizzlzozzozo stooopid fucktard just syain’ wwrites, “Alpha males don’t need social structures to help them breed, they’re already good at breeding, that’s what makes them Alpha.”
there you have it folks
stooopid fucktard just syain’ thinks that your typical gorilla is more alpha than Newton, Einstein, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, the BEatles, the Rolling stones, and Henry Ford, all of whom needed social structures to breed.
lzozozozozoz what a FUCKATRD lzozlzozoz just syain zlozolzoz
it’s “alpha’s” like “just syain’” who have butfucked true manhood and triumphantly labeled it “game” lzozolozozoz
I was going to reply in a critical manner to this but GBFM beat me to it.
I’ll just say this: Liberalism makes beta males. Not Christianity.
That tweet with the guy who caught his GF cheating on him can’t be a real video. All the eBadasses, high-horse moralists, and anti-gamers have told me repeatedly that if a guy catches you sleeping with his girl he’ll find you and shoot you dead or beat you up instantly, no questions asked and no hesitation.
The thing I never get is why they claim they will beat/harm/kill the man who aided/abetted the cheating but will do nothing to the women who actually cheated.
The accessory to a wrong should get a lower punishment than the person who actually committed the wrong.
Haha! Awesome
you’re pretty dumb for a smart guy, yareally. what you clearly forgot is THAT dude is a chump and THESE dudes here are the real deal. the tough guys on this message board would hunt you down and kill you… if they had a girlfriend, which, btw, they don’t want because girls who sleep with men are all whores who suck poop out of butts in club bathrooms or something.
I was one of those who articulated to CH that it was the alpha males who pushed for the sexual revolution to stop the beta males in the evangelical movement who had pushed for the original non-boomer feminism from 1820 to 1920, thus giving women the vote and Prohibition.
I stand by that theory. Hugh Hefner was one of them. So were the Kennedy Brothers. It wasn’t the fault of the alphas that the women they allied with in the sixties, turned on them in the eighties when they were abandoned for younger women.
Maybe it was the “fault” of the alphas that this happened, but you know what I mean.
It can’t be argued that the evangelical men who gave women the right to vote were anything but the saddest betas.
It can’t be argued that the evangelical men who gave women the right to vote were anything but the saddest betas.
Evangelical Protestantism is pure betatoidism with a Christian veneer.
Remember that, when women got the right to vote, they took over the Republican Party until 1968 when they took over the other party. The evangelical men played along with anti-free speech nonsense like the Hayes Commission and otherwise helped give alpha males the impression that they needed to revolt in the 60′s. Since then through Santorum, they’ve been weighing the GOP down. The new blood like Cruz and Paul may provide some relief, but Rubio has gone out of his way to get Backpage.com banned, showing he’s anti-free speech and proving himself to be in the control of evangelical women who want men to be arrested and regulated for extracurricular sexual activity.
(Rubio made some good anti-Obamacare speeches earlier this week however. I will give him credit where it’s due but that’s not relevant to this topic.)
I suppose there might have been some frustrated betas who had enough thoughtfulness to egg on the feminists in hopes of romancing them, but that was probably a small number among the male feminists. All men who cooperate with feminism are by definition betas, mostly omega. After all, feminism is the explicit confirmation of the beta presupposition that “Hey, becoming a man is for jerks, and sex roles are ancient nonsense.” Thus feminism has obvious appeal for betas. Of course, they ought to have seen how self-defeating their cooperation would be for their game. Beta feminists remain basically heterosexual, but they are oblivious to the fact that the essence of heterosexuality is sexual dimorphism. Otherwise known as the opposite of feminism.
So yes, betas deserve their share of the blame for feminism’s ascendancy. Had more men stuck to their guns, more women would have stuck to the kitchen. Boomer betas fell down on the job of being men, and when men won’t be men, the resulting power vacuum will be occupied by power hungry women. As for whether the betas’ role in Boomer feminism was a self-conscious conspiracy, I couldn’t say. But it strikes me more as a general dereliction of duty, or indulging the inner beta when they saw traditional society collapsing. The disappearance of slut shaming was accompanied by the disappearance of wimp shaming.
No rocket science involved in this theory, but it’s a fair one.
After all, when a woman tells a beta male to jump, what does he do?
ummm, i dunno. wat do u do? lzozozozooz
If betas are not the ones that came up with the feminist poison, they certainly cater to it and reinforce it by putting up with it, or even worse – promoting it. Think about every guy who nods with agreements at the stupid feminist gibberish he hears from a female friend or a date.
Girls who are used to dating nice guys are so annoying. They always think I just use them for sex, which is okay for a while, but when they develop deeper feelings they just go crazy. I don’t say “I love you” every time I leave, and I don’t say, “I missed you” every time I come back. And I don’t constantly text when we are apart. But girls who’s used to nice guys think that’s how men show affection.
Girls like that also think they can control me the way they control nice guys. When I get jealous, I don’t declare my love, I leave with someone else. When a girl tell me what to do, I don’t do it, I just get angry (use your feminine charm goddammit! Make me think it was my own idea). And holding her affection back doesn’t make me want to chase her, it makes me want to chase someone else. Nice guys have a feminine mentality, so what works on girls works on them – but it doesn’t work on me, it usually just make me angry. A lot of girls don’t seem to understand that simply being sweet and vulnerable makes me want to be good to her.
Betas are not just responsible for feminism, they’re responsible for destroying women by putting up with their bullshit.
It’s Identification Game (http://therationalmale.com/2011/09/02/beta-game/). Betas trying to show they understand women by identifying with them.
That article confuses understanding women with being like them. If a boy seeks to be “one of the girls” by turning off his male sexuality, intentionally or not, then yeah that would be beta. But if he uses his understanding to plan gamelike moves to reach his masculine goals, well this is exactly what game is and what the great thinkers of game write about. Empathy is not the same as sympathy or alliance.
When GBFM takes the mask off and speaks in a normal voice it becomes clear why he usually obscures himself: most people can’t handle his message straight-up, the implications are terrifying.
If we define John Scalzi as a beta, rather than say an omega, then your hypothesis may be true. I can’t tell by understanding the thinking behind it, because if Scalzi is a beta, I was always an alpha even before I thought about gamelike topics,simply because I had a bit of self respect.
A pathetic blob of protoplasm like Scalzi would surely stimulate disgust in any sexually normal female. He’s probably get a reciprocal cheering section from those females heretofore prevented from being sexually normal, as you say, the ugly ones. And by repelling all the feminine girls, Scalzi would become available for those far less desirable females, with whom he can go on to a relationship of mutually self-righteous codependency and political correctness. A match made in heaven.
There were always mentally weak males like Scalzi. There were always physically disadvantaged females. I would ask which group started a movement first. And I think it was the females. The suffragette leaders were also supposedly ugly old spinster hags, according to some comments on a post a couple months ago here.
Yareally,
I got to tell you, I know a lot of players and grew up with womanizers my entire life. My dad told me in 4th grade ‘find em feel em fuck em and forget em” basically pump and dump them. We would be at a stop light and would roll down the window and tell me go say hi to those girls. He was training me with women so I grew up with an alpha dad that showed us right.
By 8th grade I was feeling the girls up during recess by 15 I was a make out bandit so already my experience with women was in the top percentile. Had ltrs from 18 and on with plenty of ONS and flings, fuck buddies etc.
My alphaness got wacked when I suffered a tremendous loss. Family tragedy with deaths and violence and shit. Turned to Christianity for relief. Still hold true to those beliefs so its hard for me to “let myself go in the world of poon” if that makes sense.
But at 31 with the game being put on paper for us to read, naturals or even ex beta shlubs, its incredible how so many of your experiences (read the archives) coincide with my own personal experiences. Just never had realized that it existed online for us to read.
From my understanding you are extremely intelligent so take that into account for your success. I wouldn’t be surprised if your IQ is in the 130s at the very least. It takes a very savvy character to be able to navigate the situations you have been in.
I now realize how low my inner self esteem was. Probably has a lot to do with vicious beatings I had growing up. Ever been backhanded by your mother so hard that blood ran down your shirt? I recall vicious backhands from as early as 1st grade bro so obviously this has had an effect on my inner frame. I have been able to get pussy based on strong externals (looks, muscles, humor and my wild self) but always felt limited based on inner wounds. Now I am getting those inner wounds healed through extensive therapy, self reflection, reading, and letting out the toxic shame that permeates my inner core.
Personally, since you have invested so much time and energy in this endeavor, coupled with your intelligence and good writing skills, you should attempt to monetize this. Whether for good or bad reasons I think you can seriously make a decent side living as a coach.
I am an attorney so I can help you potentally grow a business. Why waste this talent man all this work has paid off for you so u can help people. If you didn’t care you wouldn’t post as much as you do on here.
Personal contact is darkktrader@ gmail