Captain Obvious draws the obvious parallel between masculinizing women and a culture’s operative sexual market.
R-Selection necessarily MASCULINIZES women, because under R-Selection, women have to FIGHT their way into an Alpha’s harem.
You could pretty much state it as a foundational premise of Evopsych that you have “Femininity if and only if K-Selection” [i.e. monogamy].
r-selection is the term to describe a sexual market dominated by polygyny, high fertility, lower paternal certainty (and thus lower paternal investment), and usually the sexual or marital disenfranchisement of beta males. Africa is a prime example.
K-selection is the opposite: a term to describe a sexual market dominated by monogamy, lower fertility, higher paternal certainty (and thus higher paternal investment), and usually the sexual or marital enfranchisement of beta males. Northern Europe is a prime example.
C.O. is right that masculinized women — in appearance and personality — are a feature of r-selected societies, because women fight for a few alpha men, toil for their bread, and generally put less effort into behaving or looking womanly because their men are pump and dumpers who won’t stick around for the duration and are just looking for an ass to hump.
In contrast, the men of K-selected societies are romantically inclined to long term monogamy, and seek women with very feminine attributes. If a man is in it for the long haul, he’ll want a woman who herself brings a lot to the bargaining table, and her number one asset is her loveliness and femininity.
If a nation’s women are masculinizing, that is a portent of civilizational collapse, because r-selected societies are backward, violent societies filled with bitter beta males and bastard children. The masculinizing women are biologically responding and adapting to a change in sexual market norms and functioning, that requires of women a willingness to compete more forcefully with other women for the honor to be part of an alpha’s de jure or de facto, concomitant or serial, concubinage. As a culture’s women become more or less masculine, that culture is likewise becoming more or less r-selected.
Slut walks?
Pussyhats?
Studies in Patriarchal White Male Privilege?
Bitter spinsters typing Feedbuzz agitprop encouraging younger women to follow their EatPrayCarousel lifestyle?
Preteen glam mags offering tips to younger and younger women how to sexually satisfy themselves and their boyfriends using a variety of sex toy implements?
These and more are the cultural hallmarks of masculinizing women. The West is becoming Africa (minus the cannibalism, but give it time).
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FYI in a mass contraceptive environment, “high fertility” means promiscuity.
Just checking to see if the f*cking mods still have their claws in me.
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Its because you’re a Paddy.
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Paddy. Isn’t that like calling him a Nigger, only it’s Irish?
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Potato nagger is the term of art you’re looking for.
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Not nearly quite as bad. Welsh are Taffies, Scots are Jocks, Irish are Paddies and the English are Sassanacks.
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So we’re using like…2 societies as evidence points for this premise that R- vs K-selection masculinizes women?
WTF is this bullshit? Does it masculinize rats or mice or any other R-selected mammal? Humans are all k-selected, even niggers; they are just less K- than asians. Spics breed like rats and their women are…not masculine. Please do not try to science if you cannot actually science.
However…masculine women kill society simply because of decreased fertility. They get all ripped and lose their period. It’s biology rearing its ugly head again. I get zomgsexist looks from women and men when I say I don’t like hard women or muscular women or anything other than feminine women. It’s like wait you can’t say that. Every image coming out of the jewfags on Madison is that women should be swole and this is the way to men’s hearts. If you contradict at ALL the popular narrative or what’s on TV, you are actually viewed as seditious even when the narrative kills people.
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Tiocfaidh ar la’
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Best way to start a thread.
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No sense starting a comments section after a piece describing the effects of reverse sexism like a little good old standard-issue racism, no? Yes? good!
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Liberated at last. No idea what I said to inflame that Stasi….
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Before Jordan Peterson:
“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.” – George Orwell
After Jordan Peterson
“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, who has cleaned his room – forever.” – George Orwell
Before Jordan Peterson:
80% of women initiate all divorces against their husbands.
After Jordan Peterson
80% of women initiate all divorces against their husbands, who have clean rooms.
Before Jordan Peterson:
Patrcikk HEnry: Give me liberty or give me death!
After Jordan Peterson:
Patrrick Henry (on rritaliznz): Check out my clean room.
lzozozozoozololoolzlzooz
[CH: lol i’m dyin’ here!]
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Lots of cockaz lots of cockaz
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“In contrast, the men of K-selected societies are romantically inclined to long term monogamy, and seek women with very feminine attributes. If a man is in it for the long haul, he’ll want a woman who herself brings a lot to the bargaining table, and her number one asset is her loveliness and femininity.”
Da GBFM is in it for da long haul with da hotties–at least two one night stands instead of just onez (for da 9.5+ hottiesz!!!)!!! Under 9 neednot apliesz lzlzlzozzloz no lotssa cocas 4u!!!
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Da GBFM does both R & K selectionz:
GBFM: R u ready to fuczlzlzozzlzl?
HOTTIE: K
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>> In contrast, the men of K-selected societies are romantically inclined to long term monogamy, and seek women with very feminine attributes. If a man is in it for the long haul, he’ll want a woman who herself brings a lot to the bargaining table, and her number one asset is her loveliness and femininity.
This ^ is it’s own kind of “romance.”
Feminine women get fucked by “r” men. Guys like Krauser run “r” game (when possible) on introverted, feminine women. This is my goal as well.
Why would an alpha man with choice fuck a “masculine” girl? Pump/dump yes… but in terms of an alpha’s priorities… “r” alphas still fuck feminine, innocent, lovely girls.
>> because women fight for a few alpha men
Most women are relatively passive. They display… and get chosen, or not. The “fight” is in the conquest of the men.
“Wives” need “K” commitment. So even “masculine” women run their dual mating strategy… “r” when they’re younger, and can be the alpha’s choice.
And then they switch to “K” when they need resources… and they “fight” to pin a beta down. And the beta lets it happen (joyfully), as this is the extent of his sexual options.
r/K exist in every society. And “r” men are basically men that CAN fuck lots of girls… so they do. “K” men are men that cannot fuck lots of girls… so they do not.
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Which is why we need patriarchy, to keep the lot of us in line to the extent we can.
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do you people even vaguely understand that r- and k- selection implicate parental input from EITHER parent? Humans ARE NOT r-selected. No mammal with a fucking litter size of 1 could be considered r-selected.
Many mammal species with even ZERO male involvement in child rearing are STILL K-selected!
K-selection is defined by number of offspring and the length of gestation. Not whether your daddy sticks around or your women get banged out infinitely.
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[…] Masculinized Women Are A Portent Of Civilizational Death […]
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Captain Obvious > Captain Morgan
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Let’s not go crazy now.
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Crazy.
Heh.
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True story: I once baited a Nigerian scammer and had him send a check to “Wayan Jablome”. He spent $20 overnighting it.
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There is one anomaly of course…and we are all suffering for it – dem Jews.
On paper, they are K selected. But in their hearts, the most bitter r-selection is fighting to get out.
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Masculine women also lead to more masculine men as the alphas have to fight to be on the top. Best example is Africa vs. Japan.
-As China gains dominance, won’t r-selected Western Hedonism lose credibility?
-India is a weird mix of strict social mores (leading to less masculine men), but still significant levels of dysfunction and mediocre IQ among the lower castes, and also some martial races that are more aggressive and charismatic. Wonder how that fits into r-K theory. Women are also pretty feminine (minus the modern day Indian-American fat feminist shreiks).
redpillindian.blogspot.com
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Not true at all. Masculine women raise passive effeminate males. Why do you think the sons of high achieving women are typically underachievers? Dominant mothers leave little room for initiative and risk and have a penchant for over-nurturing their sons. The result is an overgrown child. In saner times boys (around age 7) were forced to get out under their moms skirt and hang with the men. They knew the kid would grow up a punk if they didn’t do so.
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+100
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Also agree with ace. There is no correlation between more masculinized women and greater competition among alphas. r-selection disproportionately benefits alphas at the expenses of betas who can not command the female attention need for harem formation.
Best example is Africa vs. Japan.
Africa is a suppurating fuckhole where unattractive women do all the work while bone idle ‘alphas’ laze about virtually in their own shit. It’s the best example of the incorrectness of your thesis.
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That’s true IF the father defers to the mother in raising his son — or, of course, if we’re talking single moms.
If the father is around and more dominant than the mother, the son should be masculine too.
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I’m speaking on a societal level, not within a specific family. Wouldn’t you say that in the long run, in the west, with more masculine women, only the alpha irresponsible guys will be able to succeed in the mating market. The regular beta guys are going to be abandoned by society and either man up and go cad or go MGTOW or relocate.
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jfc, for the love of god stop blathering SHIT.
ANY child of ANY high achiever will tend to underachieve in comparison due to mean reversion.
Not one god damn thing stated in this thread is worth an ounce of crap. Stop torturing the gd facts to fit your premises.
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I knew it would come. It had to. You don’t really want to participate and contribute on this blog. Your real goal is to get a FREE RIDE on someone else’s blog.
You streetshitters are such predictable filth.
Please fuck off.
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@ streetshitter
Why you are in someone’ else’s country? Have you “relocated”? Belong to one of the wrong castes?
There is no one in India that is high IQ or charismatic. If there were such things, you might at least have worked out the science of building and using toilets.
And no one here gives a shit about your subcontinental geopolitical obsessions with China. You keep bringing that up. No one cares! If you want to talk about such irrelevant shit, fuck off over to Newsweek blog.
And in general, also please fuck off back to your own stinking hole of a country. You dirt people have nothing to offer wherever you go.
“[Indian] Women are also pretty feminine”
Are you kidding me? For looks, curry women are one hairy-forearmed step up on Papuans. For smell, they are one step below.
And stop bobbling your head from side to side like that. No one here has any idea what the hell that means.
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wtf? Indians are the highest earning ethnic subgroup in the USA, by far. Whites are #16.
There are your high IQ indians, dude, and yes their women are significantly feminine by and large.
India is nonetheless a shithole.
Is it april fucking fool’s day or something with the garbage dump level commentary on this thread?
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R-Selection necessarily MASCULINIZES women, because under R-Selection, women have to FIGHT their way into an Alpha’s harem
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It is rather hard physical work
Go anywhere especially in mountainous regions where life is or used to be hard and required hard daily physical work to survive and you will find masculine women
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and of course fight for harem entrance is not done by any masculine trait including physical strength but with devious weapons witch the supreme being has given to the wicked sex
Harem women are not for the most part masculine but exhibit the viciousness in which presence Agrippina Minor bears well her name
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“zuprim beink”
yo, cuckortezar,
call Him Lord and God.
u won’t be sorry
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Get off my lawn supreme idiot
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Kukoorteeesaaaarrr!!
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hehe what a cockroach
lil’ papist one
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One of the hallmarks of these r-selective women (and men) is their dysfunctional amygdala. That means they have no concept of fear, or understanding of the consequences of the stupid society they are creating.
These bitches will follow their mad quest right into Ragnarock.
The wisdom of the old Norse and their concept of the necessary cycles of nature seems more profound by each stupid new trend I read about.
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“That means they have no concept of fear”
Among the women at least, that may also be a symptom of masculinization.
Among the soyfaces… they’re scared of everything, and can’t understand the concept of “degrees”.
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> One of the hallmarks of these r-selective women (and men) is their dysfunctional amygdala. That means they have no concept of fear,
Shit, now I understand those “worlds wildest police chases” and youtube videos where drunk assholes fight the cops (something so mind-bogglingly stupid that it defies attempts to describe how stupid it is).
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” That means they have no concept of fear”
not wrong but maybe I would put it this way instead ; they are too dumb to know what will put them in scary/dangerous situations, too dumb to know what they should fear.
you know like all those white girls who fall in love with a black man who end up battered or murdered by him…
or those white girls who follow a muslim man, they fell in love with, all the way to the middle-east, ad then they suddenly realize they have put themselves in a very bad situation, they become prisoners, abused, raped, battered, visas taken away etc etc
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You know, this could be the reason why higher IQ people tend to have self confidence issues. Higher IQ people can analyze and think too much so they always think about what can go wrong. Things that would never occur to a lower IQ individual. And as I said before, in nature, their tends to be some trade off among brains and brawn. The human species are essentially the “nerds” of the animal kingdom. Our closeths primate cousins, chimps, are less intelligent but much stronger and much less inhibited.
And even among humans, even when adjusting for race, lower IQ males tend to be more physically masculine than very high IQ males. Could it be that the same thing that contributes to their lower level IQ also contributes to their higher physical masculinity which also serves to boost their self confidence? It’s also been documented that even when adjusted for race,straight men in the 75-90 IQ range tend to have the highest number of sexual partners when compared to other straight men either below or above that range. And among college students, men who attended public universities and had majors like criminal justice, were less likely to be virgins than men who attended say MIT and were majoring in mathematics or chemistry.
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If you drive in low-IQ third world countries you see this all the time.They do silly dangerous things like overtaking at high speed into oncoming traffic with inches to spare or turning blind into a corner on the wrong side of the road, and so on. But they take these risks where there is very little or no apparent benefit.
You say it is perhaps absence of fear. Maybe. I always think that it is an inability to do the balanced calculations (risk X reward X probability of occurence) involved in risk management.
There’s probably some overlap there.
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I see it EVERY DAY in Mexico. What appears to be insanity is just mind-boggling stupidity, nothing more. These are ANIMALS.
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Bitter spinsters typing Feedbuzz agitprop encouraging younger women to follow their EatPrayCarousel lifestyle?
“And don’t worry, FIV can’t jump to humans! (Yet).”
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The misery of r-selected societies: look no further than the 2018 World Happiness Report, based on country surveys of rural to urban internal migration and surveys of international migration.
The top of the list is overwhelmingly K-selected and whyte, the bottom of the list is r-selected African sh**holes.
The scandalous words attributed to the god-emperor reflect the truth.
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“Preteen glam mags offering tips to younger and younger women how to sexually…[insert unconscionable dross here]” has been my bugbear for so long.
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It was important to them to sexualize the children.
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“Innocence Lost” by John Meltdown.
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End of the day, assuming the psychos in DC haven’t gotten us all nuked is, Hispanics and Muslims (mostly) will fight it out for supremacy in the US. There is no way around it. Trump is a nice respite, but face facts, the demographics are all wrong for our side. Whites were the only ones that quit breeding to save the earth. There will be pockets of White communities and after all, they need a certain number of us to keep the lights and water on, to build things, to pilot the planes and so on.. But they’ll rule. And Hispanic/Muslim patriarchies aren’t going to tolerate nor ever suffer feminism of the sort that torments most White men. Faggots, trannies, Blacks, feminists, they’ll all be told to shut the fuck up. Hell, under the new patriarchy, *I* get my privilege back. Or at least you kids will, you’ll see it. Me, it doesn’t matter I don’t work for a company, I don’t have to concern myself anyway and I’m an old shit. But the Matriarchy’s annoying tyranny will be smashed in most of your lifetimes. If you’re smart, you’ll keep your chivalry to yourselves, they ain’t worth saving. I love seeing the comments in papers in Sweden, Norway, Germany, the chicks endlessly ask where are the REAL men to protect them from the immigrants their feminist masters invited in, a new and seriously violent, raping patriarchy. Hilarious. The civilized White men, they destroyed them. And even if they DID protect the women, they’d be jailed for racism.
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O, ye of lil faith
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“Its over!”
wuz it over when Luftwaffe bombed Pearl Harbor?!?
more seriously, is the fat calf not fattened?
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Civilized white men lose.
White men need to forget civilization and remember the primitive.
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Why don’t you practice what you preach and dump the internet , Agent Horiuchi ?
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I’m curious, why you take the name of Mosby?
I “know” or have had encounters with the real man. He’s not 1488. The survivalist / patriot community tried to purge itself of all WNs years ago.
Mosby was ex-Special Forces and felt “I don’t see color.” Like many soldiers or cops, he felt that if someone could do the job, it didn’t matter if they were white, black, women or gay.
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Like this alpha male:
ONE IN A MILLION’ SAS sniper headshots ISIS chief from nearly a mile away in near total darkness at night.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5839491/sas-sniper-headshots-isis-chief-from-nearly-a-mile-away-in-near-total-darkness-at-night/
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You dumb fucking twat, I don’t even know this fella you are talking about. Furthermore, I don’t give a hootin’ damn about this character. I’ve used this handle for well over 15 plus years, because the REAL one is one of my ancestors. Maybe you should wiki him Lon, I mean weaboo.
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Jim: I’m not yet willing to swallow that very dark gray pill, but it is rather accurate. The Book of Revelation doesn’t exactly paint a picture of Trump swooping in to save us riding a rocket-powered eagle.
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‘Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
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Jim,
Your analysis needs to
– describe the trend that will lead to this result
– say what is driving/feeding/powering this trend
– and maybe even put a timeline on it.
Then we can discuss whether either the trend is in fact sustainable on its current trajectory or will perhaps die out or change its trajectory.
Everybody here knows my view on this. I do not believe that this has any chance of continuing for many more years. Remember, ex-government debt, the US has had ACCELERATING NEGATIVE GDP every year since 2008. In other words, the economy is shrinking and imploding at an incredible rate. Look at the bricks and mortar retail closures. Cataclysmic.
When the weakened giant finally falls, it will hit everyone like a freight train (excuse mixed metaphor) but of all groups, without the government gibs, coons will evaporate like spit on a hot sidewalk and beaners will stream back to Mexico to the family farm. There won’t be anything for them in Compton.
So Whites will ultimately “win”. It just won’t feel much like it.
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Good takes, Vadge, for whatever reason the last day or two, any reply over twenty-five words disappears into the ether. WordPress is a tough place to discuss stuff. Problem is, the best sites are housed on it, heh..
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JIm, All agree that the mod is some kind of jew.
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it was Kahless who said, “destroying an empire to win a war is no victory”
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after they rape ALL the white girls and destroy everything you built.
Whites don’t understand race war- it is prosecuted to the last man. The Hutu and the Tutsis could educate us. The zulu. Mohammed. Jews. Zimbabwe. Iraq. Afrin. Srbja…everywhere.
They’re not keeping anyone around from the enemy tribe; if they were that goddamned smart they wouldn’t be trying to fuck everything up in the first place.
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It cracked me up back in the ’90’s when that country twat whined about “Where have all the cowboys gone”. You cut the balls off ’em, beeyotch…and now you’re complaining.
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>polygyny
This encoded into Islam and fitting with your theory CH, is the underpinning of the history of war in the Middle East, which is still occurring. Western intervention withstanding.
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Cannibalism already here. For quite some time in fact. Just ask Hillary and John Podesta.
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So can we deduce that feminine women are being “outmuscled” in the modern dating arena by their more aggresive, go-getting sisters?
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Women are becoming the men that they need. And men are becoming like the women they want.
How telling, that the women are cashing in, making the big bucks, getting tattoos, a bad attitude….
…while the men are hitting the gym, watching what they eat, being nice and agreeable.
White women will not re-feminize until white men dominate them again. Either white men do it, or the minos and muzz will do it. The void will be filled in any case.
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“Women are becoming the men that they need. And men are becoming like the women they want.”
@Ryu Underrated comment.
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What kind of woman is this ? R or K selected ?
https://imgur.com/Fi5xdk0
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KFC Selected…
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Noice!
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Even the greatest anti-grav tech of Jesus ain’t lifting that hog into Heaven.
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A California woman went on a hike with her two daughters near Lake Arrowhead when one of her daughters saw a Sasquatch staring at her from behind a tree…
“I swear to God, on my life, we ran into a Sasquatch … I realized at that point, looking at the creature, that there’s so much of life that we don’t know. Life is so beautiful, and I’m wasting my years,” … She added. “I lost 125 pounds and decided to get a divorce . . . It motivated me to chase my dreams and live my life.”
You know what they say about big feet 😉
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Has there ever been a case of a society shifting from r selection (back) to k selection?
Also, have we ever seen in the past the low reproductive rates of white women?
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Yes, war can shift society from r selection to K.
Liberals ignore reality. But nothing is more real than death. War drives a society into conservatism and K selection.
Consider the debauchery of Weimar Germany, and how Hitler and the NS made it more K selected.
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Russia lost half their alpha males across the two WWs. Where does that drive selection?
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what in the FUCK?
Do you know there is ACTUAL gd science on this?
War and ANY calamity drives R selection! YFI, mammals are ADAPTED to go to an r- shift in the face of ANY mass dieoff, disease, famine, asteroid strike, anything.
This is why there was a baby boom after 9/11. EVERY war MANDATES r-selective bias as the death rate will eliminate your bloodline if you do not get busy. It also decreases time-to-puberty.
There was a baby boom after WW2 FFS…you might have heard of it. The generation it spawned is called the “baby boomers.”
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https://www.rt.com/news/421652-brigitte-bardot-france-islamists/
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A male contraceptive pill has been developed which is effective, safe and does not harm sex drive, scientists have announced.
At the highest dose of DMAU tested, 400 mg, subjects showed “marked suppression” of levels of their testosterone and two hormones required for sperm production.
This poison will be in rivers. Horror.
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i wonder who the (((scientists))) are involved, or who put up the seed (((money)))?
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Testosterone is already suppressed and the cell phones in their pockets are taking care of sperm production. 85% of the boys aren’t getting laid anyway. And like most birth control, you aren’t going to get the ones that DO get laid and breed, Blacks, Hispanics and Muslims, to take it. I’m not sure this pill is needed and/or commercially viable. So what’s the point? Maybe we demand those that are late on support for 5 kids with 4 women take it?
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K selection tips the balance toward reasonableness, honesty, and intelligence.
r selection tips the balance towards ostentation, deception, and stupidity.
K selection requires a strong social compact, r selection prefers the law of the jungle.
Alienated progressives assured us the total license was the way of the future. What a lie that was.
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wtf is this fuckin insane garbage?
You idiots realize that birthrates in white societies were historically very high until the 20th century, right?
Humans ARE NOT R-SELECTED NOR EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO IT
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You just aren’t getting it Trav. Read Phil Rushton’s book Race Evolution and Behavior a life history perspective.
Rushton’s theory proposed that although humans as a species are all extremely K-selected (compared to molluscs for example) there is a continuim WITHIN the species with some geographical ancestral groups (races) exhibiting more r-selected or K selected traits than others. He compiled tons of data and analyzed about 60 different traits and found there was a consistent pattern where East Asians exhibited a relatively K selected sexual strategy and Subsaharan Africans exhibiting a relatively r-selected strategy with White people in between, closer to East Asians than Africans.
He found the same 3 way pattern in a litany of life history traits. Things like gestation time, age of onset of puberty, speed of dental development, rate of dizygotic twinning, brain size, IQ, aggression, impulsivity, sociability, etc.
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What this showed was that the different racial groups evolved different reproductive strategies. Rushton (and many others) hypothesized that this was due to Europeans and East Asians living and evolving in colder climates which required higher intelligence (more complicated needs for clothing and shelter), lower impulsively, low time preference (needing to store food, firewood, etc), and stronger pair bonding (a woman could not survive a harsh winter with children without male provisioning).
His theory was not perfect but it is a very useful heuristic for understanding race differences.
Given the magnitude and consistency of the differences there is about a 0% chance there are not large race differences in a trait like female femininity which is enormously relevant to sexual selection.
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This process has been long in the making. I just turned 30 a couple weeks ago. When I was in middle school around the turn of the millennium, I heard girls talking about how they would “fuck” guys they thought were “hot”.
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