Jesus Cucking Christ, the anti-White rot seeps into every crevice of the Church, softening the edifice from the inside out.
From Sigma K,
Was at the Catholic Church for my father’s funeral. The new art they used is this statue when they refurbished the church a few years ago. This is an almost all white neighborhood North of Detroit. It’s that way because of white flight in the 60s-70s. White’s will never learn.
Looks like we need a funeral for the church.
There’s a psychological undercurrent subtly conveyed by this “artwork”. You’ll notice the chocolate imp is sitting in (presumably) Jesus’ lap, while the White children gather round Jesus almost like they are his apostles. Everyone stares lovingly and tenderly at the black baby. The message is that the African orphan is a charity case through which empathobesic White Christcucks may demonstrate their virtue. It’s Captain Save-a-Fro as Church policy, and you will only ever see this sort of thing in all-White churches. (Black churches have black iconography. Blacks, for all their dysfunction, are unashamed of their race.)
Secularism and pleasuredome technologies wounded European Christianity, but Diversity will kill it in all but name.
Sigma K provides more context,
The ceremony for my father was simply awful.
The priest was weak but my all female family loved it because it was touching…
They had some lady playing a shitty keyboard/synth and singing with all of the awe, reverence and wonder of a month old loaf of bread. All doughy and moldy.
My dad’s corpse had more “T” in it a week after he died than the priest.
I understand why men are no longer interested in church. I understand why church is dying. I see why those vibrants/muzzies are so welcome.
Dalrock is correct, the church is poison.
Feminism is civilization death. It’s that simple. As either a contributing cause or a symptom, feminism and its ideological tributaries and political repercussions are an unmistakable harbinger of a nation’s decline and fall. When feminism poisons the commonweal and pollutes 2,000 year old institutions, the end is in sight. No low-T soynation teetering on the brink of no-T hyper-emotionalism will survive for long, in any capacity that would be recognizable to past generations. A strong-willed phalanx of foreign men pulsing with purified T can and will easily overrun a nation and its institutions of house eunuchs and their weepy, whip-hand postmenopausal matriarch slavemasters. “I’m with her…..to our Darwinian doom.”
Diversity Heretic adds,
Over at Occam’s Razor/Dark Enlightenment I read a comment that Christianity is becoming loud, brown and obnoxious. This certainly seems true of the present Roman Catholic Church and mainstream Protestant churches. Is there any hope in either the evangelical Protestant churches or the Eastern Orthodox Church? I don’t count the Mormons as Christian, but they also seem to be moving in the direction of race cuckoldry. I’m not sure about the Seventh Day Adventists. Perhaps in the 500 year anniversary of Martin Luther’s rejection of the Roman Catholic Church there can be the beginning of a muscular ethnonationalist Christianity: perhaps the “Cult of Michael the White Warrior Archangel?”
Loud and brown Christianity is on a collision course with polite and White Christianity. Most Christian sects appear afflicted, with notable exceptions like the Amish and the Eastern Orthodox. Catholicism is fully under the spell of anti-White globohomoism as a seditious Pope does his level best to undermine the foundations of the Church he leads by embracing every pozzed directive and diversity nostrum on earth below.
The remorselessly masculine loud and brown will overpower the submissively feminine polite and White, if the present course remains uncorrected. Perhaps nukes change the historical equation. But even then, I doubt it; bitterbitches and their manlet quislings with their fingers on the button don’t inspire confidence. They’d probably hand the launch codes over to the first spokesvibrant who complained about lack of representation in deciding humanity’s fate.
The Christian Church can allow itself to be overrun by the loud and brown and reshaped into a grotesquely unfamiliar abomination of its former glory, or it can SACK UP and REASSERT its primal Whiteness, remembering the wisdom of the ancients: You dance with the one who brung ya.
[…] Loud And Brown Christianity On A Collision Course With Polite And White Christianity […]
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CH: “Blacks, for all their dysfunction, are unashamed of their race.” ——— Northwest European Whites are the only people in the entire history of the known universe who were foolish enough to allow themselves to believe in any possible “Universalism” of the human experience. All the other peoples are fully cognizant of the Tribalism which animates the very core of their existence.
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Diversity Heretic: “Is there any hope in either the evangelical Protestant churches or the Eastern Orthodox Church?” ——— Yesterday afternoon, ‘Chase’ posted some most exquisitely good news [mirabile dictu] courtesy of Rod Unter-Cuck Dreher [although be forewarned that Unter-Cuck will not approve Maul Right kkk0mmentary to be appended to his pissury]: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/white-nationalism-christian-high-school/
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If the universe is your tribe, you don’t really have a tribe.
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Or else you’re not fully human – the “other”, the “out-group”, the non-Tribe being just another group of carbon-based units ripe for enslavement, harvesting, destruction, consumption, digestion, and defecation. I suppose you could make the argument that the White Race, in fooling itself with its idiotic fantasies about Universalism, was the only race ever to achieve full human-hood. And then full human-hood proceeded to destroy the White Race.
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Well, thou shall not have any engraven images and here’s a prime example of why not. I bet this “thing” is revered more than the Bible itself by those pearl clutching Churchians that visit there
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the same ones who needed smelling salts when grab’em by the pussee surfaced
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and the same ones who want grown sexually weird males in same bathrooms as little white girls
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In fairness to the White Race, a majority of White women did vote for El Pussy-Grabber, and He is now the President of these here United States of Da Poz. So not all hope is lost. Not yet.
[CH: by a razor-thin margin. two points: 1. MARRIED white women voted for trump. single white ladies fully supported thecunt. as the total marriage rate declines and the age of first marriage rises, there will be more single white ladies in the future to vote against trumpian candidates. 2. the sex gap is still large. if this sex gap continues, you can bank on the dispossession of trump’s america by an alliance of white women and nonwhites.]
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Not disagreeing with anything you just wrote, but long term, the key is the Total Fertility Rate of the 51% who voted for having their pussies grabbed, versus the Total Fertility Rate of the 49% who voted for not having their pussies grabbed. It’s entirely possible that in 20 or 30 years, as the ch!ldless sh!tlibs all start to die off, you’re going to see a radically different nature in the surviving Whites [assuming that the White Race even persists another 20 or 30 years, which is what we need to be working on insuring in the here & now].
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I read today that the Trump Administration has repealed those regulations. Don’t know when it’s intended to take effect though.
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single white ladies fully supported thecunt.
I’m going on a date with a girl who supported Trump in Chicago. Almost impossible to find.
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Faggot cuck pope piece of shit towing the line for the poz.
Fuck this guy and his pedo gang.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/22/pope-francis-rejection-migrants-stoked-populist-rhetoric/
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we men did this to ourselves. suffrage was the beginning of the downfall, if losing the civil war wasn’t.
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birth control sealed it. being reproductively-driven biological creatures, it’s hard for the average man not to choose pussy, and all the dealmaking that goes along with it, in the immediate over civilization in the long term.
when western women gained total eugenic control over our people our fate was sealed. other options ARE available. table manners: optional.
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that’s what baffled my mind though.
pretty much any normal (n10?
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I think birth control aka “liberate the women” was the weak link that our enemies went after. hypergamy is the kraken for patriarchal civilization. women really BELIEVE that they earned this power to do whatever they want with their pussies, without consequences. like it’s a divine right, or something. wow.
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last comment got cut short somehow.
i was saying…
never met a normal girl with n < 3 who didn’t want to carry my kids. sluts inevitably think differently.
but i wonder how tf did we get to this point where so many girls become dumb sluts at 22yo and decide they wont have babies until they get to 30
wtf makes them believe they earned anything at all
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quora, good question. w.t.f., indeed.
my guess is the indoctrination of women-and-minorities-as-the-priestly-class begins so young that there’s no reason for them to ever question it….
until there is…
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I was raised in the Episcopal Church, which is both an embarrassment and meaningless. They have ‘evolved’ to a point where they firmly believe in nothing beyond the fad of the moment designed to shock Mommy and Daddy. If you want to get together periodically with similar people for vague social reasons, nothing is stopping you. But why the need to degrade and denigrate the Religion until there is nothing recognizable?
If I could find a Russian Orthodox Church in some driving distance I would go. The men are actually men, including the priests and right down to the ground and the women are feminine. But more than even any of that, they take it seriously. Watch Russian troops being blessed, frequently by an armed priest. It isn’t a nuisance or a joke.
Feminism is the Death of civilization and anything resembling refinement and grace. The disparagement of the intellect and genuinely intellectual pursuits. Kierkegaard was right, they are children themselves.
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You’re right about the Russian Orthodox Church. If I weren’t such Norse Heathen by instinct, I would be Russian Orthodox – they have the only church services that I can enjoy, just for the aesthetics. Here’s a splendid example of a monastic choir singing a powerful Orthodox anthem of victory (the words are from the anthem of the Byzantine Empire):
Just watching and listening to this will cause a man’s T-level to rise!
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They make you suffer for mass. All night Easter vigils and 4 hour Christmas Mass. Orthodox Chant is very nice.
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The Slavs will save Europe.
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Catholic prophecy says a Frenchman will be the man-a descendant of the Bourbons long lost to be exact. But Slavs will be the soldiers and the army will be old-over 40 on average. The final conflict will be called the Battle of the Birch Trees and it will be near Kologne fought against Islamic invaders.
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The Great Schism occurred just before the Norman Conquest (coincidence?). Our later Anglo-Saxon ancestors and the Vikings they strove to convert were de facto Orthodox Christians. There is a small but growing movement to revive Orthodoxy in the West. I’m an atheist and unlikely to change, but if you are serious about Christianity you should look into this.
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@CD
I’ve read that as well. Also that civil war will break out in France and Italy about the same time. I’m still in my 20’s so if the European Reconquista starts soon I’m in. Who knows, maybe Francis will change his tune or we’ll get another Urban II to sound the call.
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“…or we’ll get another Urban II to sound the call.”
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180
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Gives me a stiffy just thinking about it. Lock and load.
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Is there a difference between Russian Orthodox Churches and Eastern Orthodox?
I’m searching that now and see various Orthodox Churches, such as Ukranian Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox. Even found a Syrian Orthodox.
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No. It is more associated with church jurisdictions.The RC Church accepts everything from the Orthodox Church and vice versa. Icon worship is the major difference, which I practice because of my wife.
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There are any number of national Orthodox churches; the Russian is simply the largest by population.
Everything about the Catholic-Orthodox divide boils down to Catholic views favoring central temporal authority, even the famous filioque, which is an ever-so-slightly progressive Catholic attempt to give Jesus more authority within the Trinity than Orthodoxy would give him.
Orthodoxy is therefore slightly more purely Mysterious on the Trinity than Catholicism. This is very consistent with the Orthodox view of nationalism and national churches: they are all one in God and Christ and Holy Spirit, while given considerable freedom to pursue ethnic ends at the organizational level; much moreso than in Catholicism.
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“I understand why men are no longer interested in church. I understand why church is dying. I see why those vibrants/muzzies are so welcome.”
If you’re Catholic try to attend a Traditional Latin Mass parish. I’ve pretty much stopped going to Novus Ordo and go to TLM or Byzantine Catholic instead. Reverent, masculine, and no-nonsense. Not a guitar or hippie muh tolerance homily in earshot.
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Pics or STFU. Also, what is the current state of your ovaries?
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Uh….medically sound?
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How many buns have you had in your oven?
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Never married, so zero.
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I agree. There are pockets of shitlords in the RC Church. It is a huge tent.
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I pity you.
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With the exception of one priest from the seminary who’s only allowed to celebrate one Mass a week, my parish is very redpill about things. The current pope has been a disaster, but there are bishops left out there who fully understand the danger we’re in as a religion. Supposedly one of them is a front-runner for Pope.
It may be that it takes an attack on one of the great European cathedrals during a Mass to finally wake the Church up. I hope not. But it cannot continue in this vein forever. If the clergy doesn’t stand up (and I mean Christian clergy in general, across many denominations), the congregations eventually will.
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He’s not the Pope, and all the cardinals and bishops are heretics. The current official hierarchy is absolutely worthless. Every single one of them.
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We already had a priest get his throat cut during mass. That being said France is waking up a bit.
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“Catholicism is fully under the spell of anti-White globohomoism as a seditious Pope does his level best to undermine the foundations of the Church he leads by embracing every pozzed directive and diversity nostrum on earth below.”
This is the key here. Until Catholics recognize that this a-hole is not and cannot possibly be a valid Pope because he quite simply isn’t a Catholic (and that goes for his equally SJW but sneakier predecessors back to and including John XXIII), Catholics will make absolutely no headway against the poz. You can’t if your so-called “leader” is one of them. Duh.
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how old r u? under 22? let’s meet.
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On a different note, but somewhat similar…
I was flipping around the channels on Sunday and saw some preacher on the idiot box. He had two arm-sleeve tattoos, visibly displayed as he spoke. The point was obvious – subterfuge the traditional values of the Church by inserting a “hipster” preacher into the top spot. Lame.
It reminded me of when, years ago, I went to the Bat-Mitzvah of a co-worker’s daughter. The”rabbi” was a lesbian with two adopted children; the poor kids were sitting the front row with a confused look on their faces, while the rabbi’s “wife” was smiling proudly next to them. Some of the older Jews were shaking their heads afterwards, muttering under their breath. Again…lame.
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yah because jews are just like us.
stfu imposter
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“stfu imposter”
I’m cancelling the Holiday card I was going to send you.
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“I understand why men are no longer interested in church. I understand why church is dying. I see why those vibrants/muzzies are so welcome.”
couldn’t this be extended to ENTIRE status quo? culture? art? music? education? politics? the bottom is rotting out…
sigma, my condolences. wish your father had received the farewell he deserved. if there’s anything that stokes the burning fire in man’s heart, it’s seeing one’s parents being treated like refuse after a lifetime of playing by the rules.
may he rest in peace.
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> “seeing one’s parents being treated like refuse after a lifetime of playing by the rules” ——— Have you taken your folks into the hospital yet? Be forewarned: EVERY physician nowadays is worthless. EVERYTHING in your parents’ medical charts will have to be audited. EVERY diagnosis will need a second & third opinion. If you saw real White American medicine & surgery as they were practiced, back in the day, versus the abject frauds which are modern medicine & modern surgery, then you’ll be ready to start ex3cuting some of these new-fangled frauds when they f*ck-up on a family member of yours.
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yes. it’s awful. the reality of how bad things are hits home when you see your poor parents struggling to get the care they need in a system that’s collapsing under its own weight. and, again, these are the honest, hard-working people who played by the rules their entire lives, getting shoved into a line with welfare-leaching illegals competing with them for the same care.
friends, prepare yourselves. you haven’t seen what the brown tide hath wrought until you see what’s waiting for your loved ones at the end of their lives.
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> “who played by the rules their entire lives” ——— This is such a huge topic of conversation. The manifest suicidalism of playing by the rules in the modern world of Frankfurt School Insanity. And the older folks – the ones who came of age in the Truman & Eisenhower administrations – they just can’t grok how horribly wrong everything has become. I could pontificate about this for hours.
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(((They))) wanted to make the white civilization stink. If it is rotten – and it is – in can be conquered and it will be conquered. Either by the maul-right or brown men. There is no way this society will live more than one generation. I think, the disruptions we see right now is the death rattle of western civilization.
Prepare yourself – it is going hot.
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Well, the fact is the Jews who wrote the letters that monks would put together as the Bible didn’t ban race-mixing. Instead they went out of their way to describe Jesus as someone who loves all peoples. There is, for example, a story of him talking with a Samaritan woman, and drinking water from her bucket even though it had been defiled by non-Jewish drinkers. Samaritans were despised as a race-mixed people by the Jews, but Jesus rebukes his disciples when they call them out on this fraternizing. Though he does tell the woman that “salvation is through the Jews,” so it seems he did have some racial pride. But apparently that did not stand in the way of welcoming all peoples into his faith – much like the statue with the White-looking Jesus welcoming a Black kid.
(Now someone will think of that one instance in the Bible where “Jesus said the Jews were a den of vipers.” He was talking to a specific group of religious zealots, the Pharisees, not all Jews. Same when he supposedly says the Jews “belong to their father the devil”. He is talking about unbelieving Jews. Jesus was a Jew growing up in a Jewish country, his uncle Zakariah was a Jewish rabbi, he went to Jewish synagogue with his parents, he observed Jewish holidays like the Sopot. He called the Jewish temple in Jerusalem “my father’s temple”. His followers called him a rabbi. He belonged to the effing tribe of Judea, from which we get the word Jew. Moving on.)
I don’t think the Jewish writers wanted their people to be mixed with Arabs or the black peoples far to the south. And perhaps they didn’t even want this faith for the white Romans they hated so much, even as they wrote of their empire as a “whore of Babylon” to be destroyed in much suffering. But the fact is they didn’t write that the races should be separate. Or that there was even any great difference between them.
No, they even have Jesus say, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, neither man nor woman, for you are all one in Jesus Christ.”
You are all one in Jesus Christ. It’s hard to be clearer than that.
It’s like the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. Did they mean its rights to be for any man or woman who became a U.S. citizen, no matter what the race? Actually, it seems they did – they must definitely have thought of this, as they had free Blacks and Jews in the states already. But did they mean for millions of these peoples to enter the country and get these rights? No, probably not. But they didn’t say so. They didn’t forbid it. So regardless of what they expected, the fact is that it’s a race-neutral document.
Same with Marx, who despised “ahistorical peoples” like Africans and South American Indians. Or Uzbeks or whatever. Communism was not for them, he said in private. But that is not what he wrote in the Communist Manifesto or in Das Kapital, so now every communist is pushing for immigration of the ahistorical peoples.
And Voltaire. With his quest for the perfectly just government. Based on the idea that all are equal. Kant, too. In private Kant spoke negatively about Blacks, but his philosophy was universal. He didn’t write anything about it not applying to everyone on earth – there is no way to twist his, or Voltaire’s, writings into being racially exclusive. They simply are not. Never do they say that non-Whites shouldn’t be allowed to immigrate and mix with Whites. An oversight? By men who did everything to cover every possibility?
Five examples of people in the past screwing up on the racial question. Crippling anyone who believes more in these old writings than in the reality before his own eyes. Our belief must be based on that reality, because the hour is late. You can add flavor from the past beliefs, but if you base your whole belief system on what the men said in the past you get a movement where members will easily show that your racialism is not supported by the all-important document.
[CH: in most of your examples, the prohibition to race mixing was clearly implied, and needed no explanation by the standards of discourse of the day. fyi the founding fathers wrote plenty about preserving the union for european whites and their posterity.]
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Nice try Modecai.
…..No, they even have Jesus say, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, neither man nor woman, for you are all one in Jesus Christ.”…….
Wrong, Jesus never said this. You’re quoting Paul from Galatians, and out of context. better luck next time.
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No, they even have Jesus say, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, neither man nor woman, for you are all one in Jesus Christ.”
You are all one in Jesus Christ. It’s hard to be clearer than that.
And yet, Jesus manages it in Matthew 25.
“But when the Son of Man comes in his splendour with all his angels with him, then he will take his seat on his glorious throne. All the nations will be assembled before him and he will separate men from each other like a shepherd separating sheep from goats. He will place the sheep on his right hand and the goats on his left.”
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That quoted text doesn’t forbid race mixing. Big fail. It just claims something will happen some time in the future.
It’s like libertarians saying the Bible forbids taxes “because it says Thou shall not steal”. Everyone finds anything he wants to be “implied” in the Bible.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, neither slave nor free, neither man nor woman, for all are brothers in Christ. Again: hard to argue against that.
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If the races are all mixed, there are no nations to separate.
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Don’t forget that God “has made the nations of men, not only all men in the nations, but as nations in their political capacity; he is their founder, and disposed them into communities for their mutual preservation and benefit.”
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Okay, mendo. How does that quote forbid race mixing? Maybe since God made all the animals and vegetables too, that means he forbids combining them into one meal?
What would a ban on race mixing look like in the bible? How about: “It’s forbidden for men to have children with women of another people”. That would have been an actual ban. Since there is no such text, don’t say there is.
And my point being, again: If you base your whole worldview on any of these old philosophies, it’s very easy to point out that your sacred text doesn’t forbid race mixing, so neither should the group that is supposed to live according to that text.
People might ignore that blunder as long as no one points it out. Doesn’t work when Jews control the media. Then you need to admit that you can’t base all policy on texts that don’t ban race mixing and mass immigration.
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Sticking a turnip into a pot of carrots doesn’t make it a carrot, and it doesn’t create some sort of carnip. Cooking a steak next to a potato doesn’t make some sort of new animal/veg Proposition Victual.
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See everlastingphelps above. He said it better and more succinct than I could.
Also what part of “disposed them into communities for their mutual preservation and benefit” do you not get?
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“Though He does tell the woman that “salvation is through the Jews,” so it seems He did have some racial pride. But apparently that did not stand in the way of welcoming all peoples into His faith”
Salvation at the time was through the Jews. Christ however, through His life, death, and resurrection created a new covenant that was not rooted in your tribe or blood, but rather by your faith.
John 4 22-24
You people worship what you do not understand; we worship what we understand, because salvation is from the Jews.
But the hour is coming, and is now here, when true worshipers will worship the Father in Spirit and truth;* and indeed the Father seeks such people to worship him.
God is Spirit, and those who worship him must worship in Spirit and truth.”
IMHO the extremes of both sides get this aspect of Christianity wrong. The Churchian types think we should become one blended globo blob that holds hands with everyone singing kumbayah while saying Jesus was a super nice guy who loves everyone – even ululating jihadis. On the other end you have people that freak out at the idea of non-whites attaining salvation. The thing is, it is possible to have true Christianity and nationalism. Jesus never said to upend governments or nation states – that’s partly why the Jews turned on Him – they were expecting the Messiah to free them from the yoke of Rome. The NT even mentions “people of every nation, tribe, and tongue” so obviously cultural /national distinctions between peoples are still observed. However the thing that transcends this all is the shared belief in Christ as our savior. In heaven your ethnicity doesn’t matter. In the temporal realm there is no reason we cannot all share the Christian faith while still maintaining our distinct homelands.
[CH: good comment cristina.]
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Salvation at the time was through the Jews. Christ however, through His life, death, and resurrection created a new covenant that was not rooted in your tribe or blood, but rather by your faith.
The Eucharist and the Last Supper
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““There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, neither man nor woman, for you are all one in Jesus Christ.”
You are all one in Jesus Christ. It’s hard to be clearer than that.”
And yet apparently not so, as the key part of that quote is the last line, “in Jesus Christ.”
That’s a qualifier on the condition. Heck, read the verses before it. The passage is about who has inheritance to the gifts and promises of the faith. It has nothing to do with whether we should eliminate the Nations and make a Neo-Babel Globohomo uni-race.
I’d tell you to go read Nehemiah, and Numbers, and Leviticus, but seeing how your reading comprehension has lead you so far…
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Excellent point, Durandel!
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CH- Do you have an email? I want to send you a disgusting pro-rapeugee article from a super mega-church that just a decade or so ago was pastored by a truth speaking, politically incorrect, unafraid, masculine, Christian real-talker. Since his retirement the place has become more & more pozzed each year. The article is so Biblically unsound that a 10 yr old whose only exposure to Scripture was from some old Veggie Tales cartoons could dissect it to pieces in minutes. And this place was the very definition of evangelical protestants. Stick a fork in em, they’re done. The small group/house churches will likely be the only remnant left of a once unashamed group of Christians that embraced the Word of God for what it is, without embarrassment and kowtowing to false doctrines and feelz.
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It’s a trade off.
On one hand, the church has given up preaching to the whites. Too embarrassing, old chap.
Then there’s the promise that wogs will be just as good? I don’t know. But it’s apparently ok to preach to the browns.
It’s a bad choice simply because they’re importing their new congregants here.
Globohomo has made it a thing that the only way to help someone “over there” is to adopt them and bring em over here.
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I’m going to catch some hate for this, but whatever.
I don’t see anything wrong with the status. Jesus loves children especially, black ones included. I don’t see the black kid as the focus, Jesus just happens to be talking to him. The kids just seem to be happy in Jesus’ presence.
There are going to be black men in heaven and white men in hell. And vice versa. I’m not saying that ethny means nothing, but let’s get real, all are under judgement and all need Jesus. That is the one chief fact of human existence. You get that one part wrong and nothing else matters.
Regarding the church being destroyed through feminization, read Podles’ The Church Impotent. I don’t relish an excessively emotional church either. Don’t count out our foreign brethren either. The African bishops, RC and Episcopalian, are among the most orthodox. Just because wicked men use the church as a cloak, well they always have since Judas.
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What’s going is (t)he message is that the African orphan is a charity case through which empathobesic White Christcucks may demonstrate their virtue.
That’s what’s wrong. Christ is being subverted for virtue signaling. It could be debated that it’s a variation in taking the Lord’s name in vain
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Well crap I was expecting to be called a hasbarah and you have a thoughtful comment.
I get where you’re coming from, I just didn’t take the statue in that context. Enlisting Jesus as an aid to a cause as opposed to the other way around is a huge misstep. You see it with the “respectability” disease, how Episcopalians get all broadminded about the deity of Christ but will hammer nails flat over “intolerance” of sodomy.
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O/T: Anyone else hear Rush this morning, just after the opening monologue? He mentioned some Skypess, I think the name was Feinberg, and I swear to God the way he emphasized it was half-way to Morrakiu: (((Ellen Feinberg))), sez Rush.
I think he’s keeping a professional ear to the ground regarding rightstuff.biz . I bet he’s aware of the phenomenal rise of TDS and the sorely missed FTN.
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Right? In the old days, you went abroad to convert. Fine. The faith was maintained by apostolic tradition and what not. Local flavors merged so that you had Yule here and who knows what over there.
It all comes down to the the Seamless Garment. That idea fucked US catholicism.
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White Christians are all pathos.
They’ve forgotten logos.
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Satan wages war on logos. This is exactly why I returned to the RC Church- logos.
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I’m a born and raised Lutheran. The ELCA is completely fucked. Rampant feminism wouldn’t go far enough to explain the cucking. Imagine a feminist shoving a red hot iron dildo in your face while an African teenage pisses in your face and a rag head rapes your daughter. The LCMS is only cucked as much as normal.
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Cradle Catholic here. I don’t claim to be a theologian but I do have some thoughts to share on this subject based on my lifetime (40+ years) in the Church.
Yes, the Church has become increasingly pozzed, but I don’t find the rot to be nearly as advanced as the article above would suggest. The trap that I think many here have fallen into is the error of particularism: conflating the idiocy of a single Catholic parish with that of the Church as a whole. The fact is that the Church much bigger than its component parts (the very word “catholic” is derived from the Greek concept of “universal” or “on the whole”).
An example: I was born about ten years after Vatican 2, so I had no idea of how the Mass or sacraments were celebrated prior to this change. My home parish had all the familiar markings of post-V2, let’s-let-the-people-run-things, feminist convergence. We used the “Gather” hymnal and not “Worship” (the former has the hippy-dippy hymns, the latter the ones composed prior to 1950), had a guitar player for Mass, a painfully awkward teen Mass with a drum machine, and at least one priest who liked to use theatrics in his homilies such as dimming the lights as he read off the kinds of mean things people were saying about people with AIDS. His heart was in the right place, but I remember it angered my father.
Later, I headed to Notre Dame for college and started attending Mass at the Basilica of the Sacred Heart on campus. It was completely different. A full, High Mass that incorporated traditional Latin hymns and homilies that were mostly unflinching on what it meant to follow the call of Christ. I loved it so much that I joined the choir and was introduced to an incalculable wealth of sacred hymns dating back to the Middle Ages whose sublime beauty outshone the dull and vapid “One Bread, One Body” as the sun compared to a flickering candle flame. The whole experience of the Mass was utterly different. Since then, I’ve been lucky to find other churches that still celebrate the Mass with equal dignity, if not the same grandeur.
My point is that the Church is larger, and contains more variety in worship style and ecclesiastic focus, than any one person can grasp. It is this dynamism that maintains its institutional health and mission even when infected by heresy. I don’t doubt there are weak priests and pozzed churches out there; I also know for a fact that there are still strong priests and a push for a return to the Latin Mass.
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This is my experience too.
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Indeed. Our parish has a weekly Latin Mass. They tried the hippy music for a while on Sunday afternoons, when the younger people attend, and so many of us complained they went back to the regular organ music. The Millennial priest who does daily Mass during the week is vehemently Traditionalist, much more so than many older priests. Straight up told the parish before the election that voting for Hillary was a sin.
By comparison, my brother’s parish is in a very blue city. The pastor is a nice man but he always seems very tired and depressed. Too many goddamn pagans in that town.
It definitely changes from parish to parish. However, I hope that this generation of young priests, and Generation Z, is going to lead us back to the more serious expressions of the faith.
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If it’s pozzed at the top, it doesn’t matter.
Until Catholics reject Frankie as a valid Pope — since he’s not even a Catholic — they (we) won’t get anywhere.
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The church has survived all kinds of popes. It’s survived all kinds of leadership problems.
Now, I’m not saying things aren’t bad, but conventional thinking just doesn’t apply to the church. By rights we should all be dead ten times over. Ironically it’s the same way I feel about America. When you look at our history it’s tempting to believe God is looking out for us, because we sure aren’t smart.
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The church resides in the hearts of men, not with the man with the pointy hat what sits in Rome
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Ironically, black African Catholics like Cardinal Sarah oppose Pope Francis’ liberalism.
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99% of nonwhites oppose liberalism. Nonwhites are never ethnomasochists.
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Real faith seeks understanding.
Cambria Will Not Yield is wrong.
Christianity is suffering from too much feminine emotionalism and not enough intellectualism.
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Christianity has been subverted by the Jews. It was their main goal. There is no Christianity left in many western countries. You can basically go in a church and shit in the font without anything happen to you. God bless Russia. Pussy Riot anyone?
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The only consensus so far in Mexico about the new policies of President Donald Trump is that the country isn’t remotely prepared.
“Not in any way, shape or form,” said the Rev. Patrick Murphy, a priest who runs the Casa del Migrante shelter in the border city of Tijuana, which currently houses about 55 Haitian immigrants. They were part of wave of thousands who swarmed to the border in the closing months of the Obama administration in hopes of getting asylum in the U.S.
Tijuana was overwhelmed, and while the government did little, a string of private Christian groups pitched in to open shelters with improvised bedding, tents and sanitary facilities. Donated food kept the Haitians going.
Mexicans quake at the thought of handling not thousands, but hundreds of thousands of foreigners in a border region already struggling with drug gangs and violence.
“Just look at the case of the Haitians in Tijuana, what were they, seven or eight thousand? And the situation was just out of control,” said Alejandro Hope, a Mexico City-based security analyst. “Now imagine a situation 10 or 15 times that size. There aren’t enough resources to maintain them.”
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http://mailstar.net/red-symphony.html
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I became deeply religious when I read it. The devil is real and so is the Almighty God.
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My conversion came as a result of learning who the Bolsheviks really were. I have heard of this work but never read it or even seen a copy. Pawns in the Game no doubts says much the same, is my guess. This has details that work will not contain.
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I recommend to read it. It is an interrogation protocol. What starts as an Interrogation becomes a Dialog between a highly intelligent NKWD Officer and one of (((them))), a true genius.Page by page you can see how the officer is sucked into (((his))) frame. It is a conversation for eternity.
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(((They))) are working HARD to force diversity on any remaining 99% white small towns.
Read and add names to Christmas list:
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/02/team-westport-a-case-study-in-anti-white-activism/
Anyone who complains about too frequent naming of the Jew is a Jew or still asleep.
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We are in Weimar, German 1933.
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The masks are coming off. The Temple of Mammon just wants gold and pederasty. Stay away from these pits of iniquity. They are the enemy. They don’t love you, and they sure as Hell don’t love that black filth. Its just a way they get the monopoly money for their hookers and blow. This system is full of liars and fakers. The Truth is not there.
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The Bible said it very clearly. Jesus came for the jews’ benefit, not the gentiles. Paul was the liaison to the gentiles. Christ himself said that he did not come to make this world a hippy, dippy love-in but to destroy it. He even said that he was here to redeem the jews and was not here for us gentiles. He said that he came to turn parent against child and neighbor against neighbor. Of course, he referred to believer against non-believer. Regardless, the divine plan was not us race-mixing into mongrelization and then oblivion. Christ himself was not some faggy, long-haired peace and love hippy. Everything in the Bible refers to the sword, blood, and conflict. We are to destroy evil, avoid its influence, and stand up for God’s plan. Only us evil goy YT’s are capable of that. The mud races/peoples (including jews) are shadows that we must avoid due to their wicked insidious natures. They are not fully human as we evil YT’s are human. America will never have any semblance of peace if non-whites are allowed into our midst. This is why we must deport/remove non-whites from our presence. At one time, we understood this but lost it. Whether we have the gumption to do what is necessary is another story.
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Test, test, test.
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I joined the Catholic Church about a year before Francis became Pope. My grandparents on both sides and all my ancestors were Catholic, so I felt a historical connection to “my people” even though my parents were both atheist.
I haven’t been to church in probably six months, and I can’t seem to muster the energy or desire to want to go back. Leaving aside my problems with Francis, just on a personal level there’s nothing there for me. This is the church of the crusades, of knights, of monks and martyrs – i.e. badass MFers. And yet I go and I’m surrounded by pussies. The last straw for me was when I liked a post on FB supporting Trump and received a FB message, not the first, admonishing me about “Do you really think our Pope Francis would support Trump saying such things about women?” Done. Deleted my FB, haven’t been back since.
For the record, I went to what is considered a very traditional ethnic church.
[CH: faceborg is an absolute shit pit. you made the right decision.]
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Francis isn’t a Catholic, he’s an SJW. Totally different religion.
Try the “sedevacantists”.
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is it true that he said “There is no islamic terror”? I can not believe this.
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The Catholic Church has no policy of promoting race mixing. They are completely neutral on the subject, and this has been the case from the very beginning.
Local parishes often reflect the demographics of whomever they are serving. So, one may see a statue like this in the Bronx, where there are lots of people of different backgrounds. Then one can go to some church where the majority of the parishioners are people of Polish descent, and see a completely different set of statues that are more relevant to those people.
The Catholic Church is most definitely, and sadly, pozzed in some ways, but I don’t think it’s been corrupted to the point of conscientiously promoting race mixing as some sort of good Christian behavior to engage in.
Only (((secular))) people are interested in actively promoting race mixing, and this is because they want to dilute the ethnic roots of western, Caucasian whites, the one people that can oppose their lust for power.
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excerpt from Trump’s inauguration speech
“The Bible tells us, ‘how good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in unity.’ We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity. When America is united, America is totally unstoppable.There should be no fear – we are protected, and we will always be protected.
We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement and, most importantly, we are protected by God.”
We are proud of our heritage, proud of all of those good things that have arisen from our magnificent civilization and by doing so we will lead.
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There are those who say we must be Christians because the jews hate Christianity. The truth is the jews hate White people getting together in anything: The tea party, Trump rallies, even something totally fagged and cucked out like the Promise Keepers.
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Contrast this statue with medieval paintings of the 3 kings, one White, one Black, one Asian, each given genuine respect.
There is a kernel of truth to the statement “Liberals are the real racists.”
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If there is nothing what you are proud of then you lose the will to live. What is true on a individual level is also true on civilization-scale level. White civilization has to answer this question and to some degree it has been done by making Trump president.
All those SJW, degenerated lefties, freaks produced by Cultural Marxism will be having a cold turkey. REAL TALK and LOGOS instead of feelings.
The free flow of information is crucial! Free flow of information is truth!
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