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The Beta Orbiter Destroyer

The Boyfriend Destroyer is a staple of the dark arts of seduction. A darker shade of crimson, if you will. The tactic is thoroughly explained here and contextualized within a bigger picture — outcompeting other alpha males for pussy — in this CH post.

For a brief overview of the Boyfriend Destroyer, see here.

The Boyfriend Destroyer is, like most Game tactics, essentially an exercise in full range REFRAMING. If you are unfamiliar with the Game concepts of framing and reframing, please consult the past 18 months of President Trump’s rise to power for real life examples of its use.

4) You must REFRAME all behaviour to appear like insecure nice guy behaviour.

Even behaviour that -WE- as ASFers would use on girls (such as not agreeing to LTR) is to be REFRAMED as being nice guy behaviour, as someone who is too afraid to be decisive and go for what they really want, since they are too afraid that they will lose it once they’ve been emotionally vulnerable (as will be explained below). All behaviour can be REFRAMED.

5) By making the guy look like a “NICE GUY”, you are making him the most sexually unappealing guy conceivable. Once you’ve done this, there is NOTHING that he can do to get back into her good books, as you’ve put him into a predicament where anything that he does will be interpreted by his GF as being insecure. So, if he’s too distant, and he makes up for it by buying her flowers -> he’s insecure. If he’s too needy, and he makes up for it by getting a life -> he’s insecure. You are trying to DIFFUSE his outer glossy shell, and give the girl a window into his inner workings, so that he no longer appears “mysterious” in any way. You make her understand him so well, that she likes him more as a person, but no longer has any sexual desire for him.

In the realm of direct sexual market bartering, the Boyfriend Destroyer is a devious underhanded method of lowering the value of the girl’s boyfriend while appearing to defend him.

The tactic:
What you’re looking to do here is tear the guy down to a NICE GUY, while making it look like you’re actually STICKING UP FOR HIM! Your goal is to make him one of those guys that a girl would go out on a date with, like as a person, and feel bad for having to LJBF at the end of the night when he tries to kiss her at the door.

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Neediness:

“You’ve got to understand that for this guy you are his entire world. He cares about you so much, that everything else in the world is meaningless to him.  You are his only source of pleasure, and without you he knows that…he’s nothing. You can’t blame him, he just doesn’t have anything else going for him, so he needs you.”

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So, remember that you are focusing on destroying the guy’s sexual appeal, by making him seem too familiar, and easy to understand. People generally get ‘one-itis’ for those who are challenging and hard to understand. By making the BF seem both easy to understand, and very insecure/nice/beta in the meantime, the relationship will likely not last the week.

Just remember not to be the LJBF who counsels her on her problems. Instead, you are constantly getting her worked up by doing the EVing that MrSEX4uNYC discusses in his archive. Ideally, she must be getting both turned off the guy by what you’re doing, and getting turned on by YOU, and the conversation NATURALLY LEADS TO HOW YOU ARE DIFFERENT, AND -IDEAL- FOR WHAT SHE WANTS. The natural flow of conversation must indirectly lead to exposing your highly desirable qualities.

She is getting turned on by the DIRECT CONTRAST between you and her boyfriend.

A subset of the Boyfriend Destroyer is the patented CH Beta Orbiter Destroyer. Beta orbiters are boyfriends in all ways but PIV. They hover around the girl you are picking up, generally making the seduction more difficult than it need be by interjecting at awkward times to alternately tool you, drag her away, or clumsily kill the buzz you’re creating with the girl. Beta orbiters WANT the girl you want, but unlike you are stuck in a recursive incel hell of their own making, so their bitterness is often not very far from the surface.

If you have an especially persistent beta orbiter disrupting the smooth move of things, I have a line you can use which will effectively neuter him above and beyond the self-imposed exile already placed on his frustrated frank and beans.

Wait for the orbiter to leave the girl’s ear-space for a minute, and ask, as innocently as you can, if he’s the girl’s boyfriend, or if she’s dating him. She’ll say no, (listen for the tone of her reply…indignation is a good sign you’ve hit pay dirt), at which point you say, under raised eyebrow and through upturned lip-corner,

“Does he know that?”

This is a megatool and a subtle qualification wrapped in four simple words. It not only showcases the beta orbiter’s romantic futility, it reminds the girl of his inability to read social cues and take a hint, as well as signals that YOU are aware of HER amoral reluctance to forego using the orbiter for his emotional support.

The trap is set. She has nothing of mercy left for her orbiter, whom she will cavalierly dismiss if he approaches again out of sheer shame that he shares her company, and she will likewise know that you know the game she’s playing. Your tacit disapproval may be evident to her; better still will be your implied familiarity with the sexy women who have the goods to pull into their orbit easily exploitable beta males. She will get that you aren’t “one of those loser guys”, and have in fact a pretty good idea of what women are like because their secret world is always open to you. She won’t consciously know it, but she’ll feel it: YOU’RE PRESELECTED.

How the girl answers that oh-so-innocent question will reveal a lot about her (and how you should proceed).

SATAN’S SIDEARM SHIV: Does he know that?

BUNNY RABBIT: *giggling* uumm….no?

SATAN’S SIDEARM SHIV: Maybe someone should tell him. *motion towards the beta to come over*

BUNNY RABBIT: What?! What are you doing? (If she frantically grabs your arm to stop you, the bedroom door is already ajar.)

Or:

SATAN’S SIDEARM SHIV: Does he know that?

BUNNY RABBIT: *indignantly* of course!

SATAN’S SIDEARM SHIV: Oh good, then he won’t mind you hitting on me.

129 Responses to “The Beta Orbiter Destroyer”

  1. If you’re alpha, there’s plenty of fish in the sea.

    Why try to detonate a relationship that could’ve resulted in WHYTE BUNZ N WHYTE OVENZ?

    Isn’t this what you all want?

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  2. badbully42 says:

    Out at a bar, accuse a girl of being on a date with her brother. Be careful though, if done well, you’ve surely sewn the seed of a break up. I’ve also yelled at couples from a distance, “He’s a bit short for you don’t ya think”.

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    • Sun Tzu says:

      Wait, you actually yell insults at couples

      That’s the definition of an asshole douchbag alpha male, Marc Antony style. I love it

      Never got confronted?

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      • badbully42 says:

        It’s not always in insult form. Sitting down at a table with a couple and asking the girl how old her brother is has gotten me laid, kicked out of bars and into fights.

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      • Haven M. says:

        these are all hilarious and conceivably actually work in the real world. Although, “how old is your brother”, what? Wouldn’t “Would your brother mind if I asked you out” or whatever be better?

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        Some of this shiznat is gonna be in violation of the Principle of “Bros before Hos”.

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    • Sentient says:

      “is this your brother? No? Huh… You look so alike.”

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    • vfm#7634 says:

      Maybe, but we need an orbiter-destroyer for interracial orbiting.

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    • JironGhrad says:

      One similar tactic that I like; I’ll take a girl I want to the local park in the late evening (summer time is ideal for this) and inevitably there will be couples enjoying their time together. You can get an epic group-troll (and massively boost your ZFG) going by rolling down all the windows and while the girl is turning as red as possible, blast a sexy-time song (Flo Rida’s Whistle is a good choice) while rolling slowly past the couples.

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    • Reb says:

      Ah yes. The trash heep of night game. To each his own.

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    • Vagina dominator says:

      Living on the edge there. I’m pretty sure you’re not doing this in Australia.

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      • wolfie65 says:

        I have, over the years, gotten the impression that the majority of the posters live in some form of NE corridor Effeminate Hipsterville, because many of the ‘techniques’ advocated would be excellent ways of getting into fights elsewhere.

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      • Stripes Duncan says:

        I have, over the years, gotten the impression that 90% of this is shitthatneverhappened.txt

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    • HungarianPatriot says:

      In Toronto, where I live this might probably work if you carefully picked your target. In Transylvania, you’d end up in the ER more often than you’d get laid. Srsly you’d get stabbed up for shit like this lol

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    • Yhav says:

      Well, once one is irrimediably a loser, he might as well be proud of it.

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  3. “Maybe someone should tell him.”

    That is classic.

    But, in truth, and out of human kindness, someone really should.

    But, sadly, if they did, most likely, he wouldn’t listen.

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  4. […] The Beta Orbiter Destroyer […]

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  5. I read about this somewhere, I think one of Roosh’s commenters. Or was it here, frim CH himself? I apologize for not recalling

    I’d love to try it on a beta shitlib SWPL, but I live in a small town. Maybe next time I get to Seattle or NYC. If all of us started doing it, it might be a great public service.

    Here’s how it goes. Walk up to a pathetic beta with a cute GF. Start insulting him, maybe even knock his fedora off. As he cowers, look at the girl, and say “he can’t even defend himself. How will he take care of you?” Hand her your # and walk off.

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    • radagast says:

      that’s weak game son. right off the bat you imply that you are invested in whether some random hb is taken care of. wrecks your smv from the jump. VISUALIZE ALPHA. some shitlord with a harem of 50 beautiful women doesn’t give one fuck about the wellbeing of number 51.

      also will only trigger her nurturing instincts and push her closer to the beta.

      a single passing look of amused confusion as to why she is with a guy like that would do 10x the damage.

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    • Reb says:

      Noteworthy

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    • Jesus pal, do you want to die?

      I think you misunderstand the idea of “beta”. Betas are often the toughest, angriest men in the group.

      And by the way, there are also plenty of guys like me around the place too.

      Knock the fedora off some weak guy just living his life?

      I would insert myself into that. And I guarantee you wouldn’t like it.

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      • You’d white knight for a dude?

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      • HungarianPatriot says:

        Can’t blame the guy, reading CHs posts you’d think every beta is a noodle armed SWPL. In reality most of the guys posted in the “beta of the month” and stuff are weirdo omegas. If you go by “beta” solely as being unsuccessful with women… Well I’ve known betas that would rip the head off a pitbull and shit down its neck. If they do get a girl these guys tend to be extremely protective and would not hesitate to fuck you up.

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      • Greg Eliot says:

        I’m with VagDom on this one… like most things.

        Don’t consider it white-knighting for a dude… consider it waging the good fight in the war against n1ggerdom.

        I couldn’t stand by and watch that… not so much for the honour of the alleged shitlib or his cute gal…

        … but for mine own.

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      • Lance Draper says:

        Kept in context, I like his idea. I’d do it to a “man” at a Hillary rally or a slutwalk, for example. He’s not talking about trying to steal average Joe’s girlfriend, he’s talking about stealing cute women from shitlibs, our avowed enemies.

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    • -B- says:

      What is the point of that? To test the guy’s ability to control himself in public? Test his ability to weather your behavior not to risk arrest over throwing the first punch to your face?

      And of course if the guy does punch you and a cop comes along what are you going to do? Claim he hit you for no reason of course. It’s grade school bully behavior. The so-called alpha bully will always retreat to the protection of authorities when the object of his torment launches the beating the bully deserves.

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    • -B- says:

      I had a better comment but it offended the moderation bot.

      Simply all you are accomplishing is to test his self control of his behavior in public. In fact you’re relying on his self control because if he does not have it you’re asking to be hurt. At which point of course should any cop or authority intervene you would claim he hit you for no reason exactly as done in grade school.

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    • bolg says:

      Borrow, use, return in mint condition. Cool.

      Humiliate a random dude just because? Not cool.

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      • I wouldn’t pick a random dude. An obviously shitlib dude with a cute girl though? I wouldn’t lose a wink of sleep. And a place like Seattle is weapons free because almost all the males are cucked shitlibs. They deserve to be humiliated by their betters.

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      • Quaid says:

        Humiliate – with extreme prejudice … It is a noble act – and kinder than the indifference she will show when she discards him.

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      • Greg Eliot says:

        It’s best to remain in good odor with God.

        They made an interesting movie awhile ago… the name escapes me… Apology, maybe… the gist of it was people who, years and years later, looked back on their lives and the only regrets they had was when they treated someone harshly and unfairly… so they embarked upon journeys to find the person they wronged and offer their deepest apology and to make some sort of amend, for what it was worth.

        I myself identified with that regret… still do.

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    • anti-anti says:

      What an astonishingly cowardly idea.

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    • Quite surprised honestly that this idea, targeted at nuking shitlibs has been so poorly recieved here at the Chateau.

      You guys are thinking that doing this to another man is a violation of some sort of mans’ code. I’d never do this to someone who looked like a Trump voter a) because it would be against my code, and b) because a Trump man stands a much better chance of actually fighting back. Shitlibs beta males are not my brothers. Their very existence is odious and the should be at most tolerated as thralls.

      Woman stealing is what drives about 50% of history when you think about it. What do you think the Muz invasion is all about? You’d better get used to the idea of taking women that please you by force, because it’s the way the world is meant to work.

      [CH: pro comment. mewling beta and neutered tradcons don’t like the idea of “woman stealing” because they’ll be the ones getting pilfered. and like you wrote, woman stealing is a big part of the history made by men.]

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      • Greg Eliot says:

        Different times, different mores…

        Stop digging the hole you’re in and just chalk up the rebukes to the cost of an education…

        … we men of the chateau don’t roll like shitskins.

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      • itsme says:

        You guys are thinking that doing this to another man is a violation of some sort of mans’ code.

        no, just a violation of common sense and behavior.

        instigating a confrontation for no good reason is just retarded. shitlib cities have shitlib laws that protect shitlibs, so in reality you trying to knock the shitlib’s fedora off could be considered assault. the shitlib could claim he reasonably believed you were trying to hit him. so at best, you could be arrested, at worst he could hand you your ass if shit goes sideways because you thought he was weaker than you and wouldn’t fight back.

        and all for what? you’re more likely to get laid by tyrone in jail than by the shitlib’s chick.

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      • -B- says:

        “You guys are thinking that doing this to another man is a violation of some sort of mans’ code.”

        Not at all. It’s the method you have chosen.

        A skilled man has physical confrontation at a last resort even if he is the strongest man around because such things often do not go the way they are supposed to. Too many wildcards engaging strangers in fights or provoking them to that level counting on their self control.

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      • bolg says:

        Nothing wrong with “woman stealing”. Much wrong with making an ass out of yourself.

        Plus, what radagast said above.

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    • “I read about this somewhere, I think one of Roosh’s commenters”

      There’s your problem

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    • Jimmy says:

      I’ve emasculated a few men who have attempted your weak shit or similar posturing in public, both in front of their women and mine. Being short = a target to try hards so I’ve had a number of experiences. The problem with the proposed technique is that you’re moving the competition from seduction to masculinity. It doesn’t take a Casanova to know how to respond to direct confrontation and end up looking good. Referring to the guy as her little brother is more devastating and more difficult to counteract

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    • Reb says:

      Believe me brother. This shit happens every day in my city.

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  6. TLM says:

    Speaking of beta orbiters, look at DJT’s Twitter pic of Justin Trudeau in the Oval Office. The kid’s so terrified of Trump he’s orbiting his desk safely out of striking distance, but still needs to put some chick human shields in-between himself and DT.

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  7. ‘Wait for the orbiter to leave the girl’s ear-space for a minute…’

    There’s the rub. How does one get a cockblock out of pussy perigee long enough to slip in the game shiv? He’s going to be extra defensive and clingy with a smooth operator in her highness’s presence.

    – Straight up bro: “Hey, man, now’s your chance to get the pool table / Foosball / table shuffle board. Go for it! We’ll save these seats just in case.”

    – Go fake metro/BGF: “Honey, would you get [princess] a fresh drink?” (touch his forearm)

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    • Sentient says:

      Hackett – standard procedure is to ignore the guy completely, be non reactive to him, sidle up to her on the other side and start talking to her. this forces her attention on you and away from him. Bonus points for whispering a joke in her ear, so now she is giggling and ignoring him… So you could run this in this kind of setup up easily. And he is going to screw himself up and blow himself out..

      Another way is with his attention on you, you chat to him and then say to her “so how do you two know each other?”… Most of the time she will say they are just friends or just met… Lolz

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  8. Lichthof says:

    Two things O/T
    1. if Kushner was an alpha surely he’d stand up for his wife? Burlington are now dropping her brand. At least Trump did….not seen anything from her husband unless I missed it

    2. Any good bios to read of Trump? His granddad seemed a character. Came here aged 16 and made his fortune by 32. Ran a ‘rooms for rent’ hotel too in the red light of Seattle. Trump’s Dad seemed a tough cookie- those old school Germanic hard task master types that you don’t see now. Trump alludes that his brother was driven to an early death as he could not last the pace.
    Trump’s father also looked a lot like David Niven. The Trumps had to pass themselves off as Swedish to get success in (((NYC))).
    There is a 2000 book about the three generations of Trump that looks interesting.

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  9. radagast says:

    Fucking top notch game yet again. I’ve long thought the beta orbiter was simply part of the package when it comes to snaring a good-looking woman. Will def be trying this one out.

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  10. Ragnar Redbeard says:

    I really enjoy what Trump is doing.

    However, we all need to keep a watchful eye on him and Russia. Guys something is not right.

    Why did the administration remove a sanction on the selling of encryption software?

    Why did Flynn talk about Russian sanctions and claim he didn’t?

    Why were Carter Paige and Paul Manafort- both HEAVILY involved with Russia. In Trumps campaign from the beginning? Carter Paige even has shares in Russian oil and is a paid off mouth piece propagandist of the Russian government.

    Why did a high level British spy that is vouched for go into hiding after releasing the Dossier?

    Why did Russia then help Trump get elected and clap when he did?

    But then why would Trump run for president at all if he had a gun to his head? The amount of mystery and shady dealing going on is stuff of a crime novel and Trump needs to distance himself from the murderous dictator of Russia FAST!

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  11. mendo says:

    Just in time for Valentine’s Day, gents:

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  12. X says:

    Nig on white.

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  13. Reb says:

    Joy Villa is #1

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  14. Lazer says:

    Cheateau heartiste just found schizophrenic game. Works like a charm.

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  15. Days of Broken Arrows says:

    Comment disappeared. And you’ll want to find this one. You won’t believe it.

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  16. pdwalker says:

    “Does he know that?”

    +5 Vorpral shiv.

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  18. gunslingergregi says:

    still feel kind of bad bout breaking up the ex and husband

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    • gunslingergregi says:

      thing is though yea pretty much any chick there is no time between relationships
      is what it is i guess

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    • gunslingergregi says:

      every bitch i interact with pretty much has broken up and called me
      i don’t take em in but yea not trying to make it my thing really i don’t push it

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  19. walawala says:

    Another Beta Orbiter Destroyer strategy…is to refer to them as “Orbiters”. A plate had guys around her all the time….At first it bothered me, but then I started referring to them as “orbiters” as in, I’m djing next week, let your orbiters know so they can come out and bring friends. She never once corrected me. As one point she started calling these guys “orbiters”.

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  20. Yhav says:

    “In the realm of direct sexual market bartering, the Boyfriend Destroyer is a devious underhanded method of lowering the value of the girl’s boyfriend while appearing to defend him.”

    I’ve done that, fully and well, more than one time.
    But it was… unintended, I mean I wasn’t unconscious of what was driving me.

    It always works. The more you underline what a GOOD boy he is, how deserving of her love he is, and so on, peppering the speech with things like “I live of adventures, dating many women, I’m not one who settles but I envy who gets tranquil couple lives and family” (broken into several partial phrases along the whole convo, that is), the sooner she’ll dislike him

    If he is a good boy. Don’t hope for this to work if he isn’t a Niceboy, lol.

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    • oink says:

      A Funk sez:

      Ruthlessly going after a girl’s boyfriend is what (((some))) (((people))) would do. … But, generally speaking, denigrating a dude to get a girl is what (((they))) would do.

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  21. Corvo says:

    don’t forget, gents – it’s skittles day

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  22. UKIP says:

    Scandalous behaviour. The weaker man tricks the better man again and again it’s the same story, are you sure you’re not Jewish? Either way will this behaviour make America great again?

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  23. Lichthof says:

    Sorry to see Flynn go….I met him at a few rallies…100% patriot.
    Breitbart have the knives out now for Preibus. Watch this space.

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    • Corvo says:

      Yeah – it’s unfortunate. I dislike the very idea of our security services spying on calls between their civilian bosses and foreign leaders, but Flynn’s big mistake was having that conversation prior to Trump being sworn in, so technically he was just a regular citizen at the time.

      I wish Flynn well and thank him for his service.

      Trump must stay angry and stay focused. The bigger point stands:

      No war with Russia. No war for Jews. America First. The real threat to our nation comes from the third world and the Islamic world.

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      • wolfie65 says:

        Mission No.1 is to get rid of Political Correctness in all forms.
        Just that will solve A LOT of other problems.
        Mission No. 2 is to prevent the US from becoming Brazil and Europe from becoming India.

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  24. wolfie65 says:

    Meanwhile, over there in ole Arabischland, the AfD are trying to kick Björn Höcke (Thuringia) out of the party because of the shitstorm over his speech in Dresden, in which he really didn’t say anything other than Germans have a long and proud history and should remember same.
    …which Antifa – predictably enough – twisted into ‘h0l0c@ust denial’, always one of the best buttons to push with any Middle European.
    I’m starting to wonder if maybe the AfD might be ‘controlled opposition’.
    Hope not, but I don’t think the mess Europe is in will be solvable by elections alone.
    The peasants will likely have to storm Castle Dracula.
    Or, more accurately, many castles Dracula.

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    • oink says:

      as long as you get folks asking the wrong questions, you don’t have to worry about getting to the right answers.

      As long as people don’t focus on how corporatization of European economy individually screwed them over, personally and each one of them, is all good

      and (frontrunners)), in their hubris, do think it’s all about themselves, and go along with the charade for reasons of pride and lucre

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      • oink says:

        but with wolfie, even when asking the right questions one should not worry about him arriving to the right answers

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    • tomjones says:

      “I’m starting to wonder if maybe the AfD might be ‘controlled opposition’.”

      No, jeeez. Ya think? Every party except for theBritish National Party, the KKK, Bloed, Bodem, Eer en Trouw, the Bosnian Movement of National Pride, Nacionalni stroj, the Bloc identitaire, the National Revival of Poland and the Golden Dawn are ‘controlled opposition’.

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  25. Monkey chunks says:

    Some guy tried to do this to me one time. So I threw him through a wall. Best sex ever that night.

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  26. Anonymous Funk says:

    Ruthlessly going after a girl’s boyfriend is what (((some))) (((people))) would do. At one extreme, if he’s a worm, he’s a worm and deserves some scorn. And if she’s a w40re, then your goal should be helping him. But, generally speaking, denigrating a dude to get a girl is what (((they))) would do.

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  27. Waffles says:

    LOL HAD TO SHARE THIS. I call it “The Making of an Alpha Widow” or “Shit Lord Supreme”. I can’t attach the image so will have to describe it. My buddy lives in San Diego and is a prime shit lord. A natural genius who got a free ride through law school and is now a successful marijuana lawyer. So he texts me a screenshot yesterday of a text conversation between him and this 21 year old hottie he has been banging. This is the convo:

    Her: (Sends selfie of herself in slutty lingerie posing in a “fuck me” position)

    Him: Morning. Just wanted to let you know I’ve been thinking and I think it’s gonna be best to not see each other anymore, at least for a while. I think you’re a great girl with a lot of potential and I thank you for the time you’ve spent with me. Good luck!

    Game. Set. Nuke.

    I asked him for some background on why he was dismissing her and he said:

    “Wasn’t acting right. Incredibly self absorbed. Looking at Instagram 80% of her waking moments. The final straw came when she flipped out in the middle of sex bc I ‘wasn’t respecting her’ since I was manhandling her a bit and tossing her around. Can you imagine how hard her ego got cracked when my response to that sexy pic was ‘nah sorry’”

    LOL

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    • radagast says:

      Good to see some of these younger b’s brought down to earth. Typically I’d call that a dick move but not in these times with this type of young spoiled woman.

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    • plumpjack says:

      this is upper-hand, lower-hand game. okay, so now he has the upper hand, but he cut off his access to her very valuable asset, which some other guy will now snatch up before the end of the day. also breaks her down and makes her feel like shit without any explanation. great job. what a winner.

      what was his goal here? to humiliate her and shove her face in the mud? golly. how impressive. he’s basically cutting off his pecker to spite his lack of balls. finesse level: -5

      a smart man knows that there’s no need to use a sledge hammer when a feather will do. if a woman has opened herself to you but needs a bit of pruning, you don’t cut down the whole fuckin tree. you let her dangle in uncertainty a little when she misbehaves. take a little longer to respond to her texts. don’t come around for the sex as often. etc.

      if she’s a habitual misbehaver then she gets a habitual amount of cold shoulder. but the door remains open and she has a chance to please him while being able to keep her fragile pride in tact.

      funny he describes her as self-absorbed. he needs to take a good look in the mirror. this guy is an vindictive, overconfident prick and his hardest life lessons haven’t even begun yet. what goes around comes around.

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      • oink says:

        whykny on trusty donkey: spotted

        broes b4 hoes, punk!

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      • Waffles says:

        Plump I think you are reading too much into this. There is no trying to gain an upper hand and no humiliation. The text was cordial and to the point. She is a plate that got dropped.

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      • plumpjack says:

        “broes b4 hoes, punk!”

        bros reel each other in when they got cocky. ho’s don’t even enter into the equation. they’re the prey. if you had any bros you would know that.

        go get your thyroid medication checked. picking too many fights around here.

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    • Corvo says:

      “Wasn’t acting right. Incredibly self absorbed. Looking at Instagram 80% of her waking moments. The final straw came when she flipped out in the middle of sex bc I ‘wasn’t respecting her’ since I was manhandling her a bit and tossing her around. Can you imagine how hard her ego got cracked when my response to that sexy pic was ‘nah sorry’”

      In fairness to Waffles’ friend, we don’t know if he tried (unsuccessfully) to put a stop to her constant social media whoring — if he did, and she didn’t shape up, fuck her. If he just got annoyed about it and didn’t try to straighten her out, he missed an opportunity to improve her. Any girl worth keeping around wants to be led by a man she respects. Take the phone out of her hand and just dismissively tell her no more social media whoring while she’s hanging out with him; if she balks, fuck her, but she might have happily acquiesced.

      Also, the second strike (“flipped out in the middle of sex” because he wasn’t “respecting” her) is highly subjective, but a girl flipping out in the middle of sex seems a bit batshit crazy to me; he obviously wasn’t going overboard as she’s sexting him afterwards asking for more, so the way she flipped out seems to indicate the girl is fruit loops. There are other less dramatic ways to suggest that she’d like to be a little less of a rag doll in the bedroom …

      He saved himself some grief nexting her.

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  28. nope123k says:

    “SATAN’S SIDEARM SHIV: Does he know that?”

    Several frequent answers are missing:
    3. “I don’t know.”
    4. “I have never thought about it.” (as a true statement.)
    4.1 “/I don’t want to think about it.” (subtext)
    4.2 “/I don’t care.” (subtext)
    5. any response with the rationalizing subtext “He’s fine with the situation”
    etc.

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