What awaits the typical beta male? Reader FrTedCrilly makes a bloodsport of vivisecting the beta male id.
Sure Game can save a beta orbiter.
Only problem is that beta orbiters often are the most vehement opponents of the sweet science of pick-up, pre- or post-humiliation.
They’ll play the waiting game. And the payoff, if they’re really “lucky”, after years of watching their princess get dumped by Skrillex clones, is a 60,000 dollar wedding and a blank-eyed speech about her soulmate and best friend. And a sexless honeymoon.
The sharpest shiv cuts the cleanest line.
On a less serious note, I do wonder, given the trend to later and fewer marriages, how long sexual market optimists think beta males will put up with being sloppy sixths to carousel-worn vagina switched into semi-arid settling mode? Do honorary Realtalkers believe there won’t be blowback from such an unsustainable societal condition? CH loves the pointillistic details best when framed by the big picture.
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Acceptance and naivete. Acceptance that this (increasingly sexless, loveless passionless marriage) is what ‘growing up’ means. Naivete because they won’t necessarily have had the the rich variety of tight, lusty 20-something lovin’. How’s a beta to feel that she’s been on the carousel when he hasn’t had much himself and forces himself not to care about her history. Caring about her carousel count is verboten, d*mnit!
i lol’d hard at this
2009: The Carousel
2015: Dick Tornado
Dicknado?
I like the combo-creature features myself:
Cockasaur versus Licktalottapus
@CH:
You’re gurl Alanna Massey got some air time in the VDARE spotlight: hating on whites and lurrrvin her some black c0ck.
http://www.vdare.com/articles/is-alana-massey-wasp-hater-tnrs-token-decaying-protestant
How many thw@cks you think she’s gagged on?
…affirmative black action c0ck carousel rider
Alanna Massey for President!!! 😝 and she’s prettier than Billary Clinton 😉
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“I do wonder, given the trend to later and fewer marriages, how long sexual market optimists think beta males will put up with being sloppy sixths to carousel-worn vagina”
Beta males have always settled, though. It’s just this century’s flavor of beta-settling.
Exactly. The weak are weak… Nothing new here
CH trying to liberate Betas is like the Union trying to emancipate African Americans… Careful what you wish for…
Barley with the pick-six.
Its always been slim “pickins” on the sexual market plantation for these guys
Andersonville for the heart-broken.
Uncle Beta’s Cabin
Harpy’s Fairy
Some betas have given up and gone their own way.
Betas like me who go self-aware but cant be bothered to make the effort to learn game simply turn to porn and/or prostitution.
While we never get what alphas have at least we avoid the divorce-rape and can maintain a comfortable lifestyle.
“Can’t be bothered” is already excuse-talk.
‘Aren’t up to the effort’ is truer, and more likely to lead to change.
What is the point? I have had a great run in the last 18 months but you soon realize women are boring stupid and a pain in the ass. Add in their predictability. They are the quintessential bandwagon jumpers of life with no real loyalty or soul. You see it in sports when your team for once gets to a final your girl will jump on for the ride and soak up the glamor with lits of high fives and yelping but when your team goes back to being shit she will be of shopping.
I do wonder, given the trend to later and fewer marriages, how long sexual market optimists think beta males will put up with being sloppy sixths to carousel-worn vagina switched into semi-arid settling mode?
Not so long baby transfusions may happen sooner than later
“I do wonder, given the trend to later and fewer marriages, how long sexual market optimists think beta males will put up with being sloppy sixths to carousel-worn vagina switched into semi-arid settling mode?”
Not to long
Reminds me of the old joke – if she had as many peckers sticking out of her as were stuck in her, she’s be a porcupine.
don’t marry a porcupine
If I told you that you could open up a new soda pop or drink one that had had seven penises in it, which one would you prefer?
Lolled
Why, the latter of course!
‘Be A Skittles Man’
“Two men, two vastly different experiences with women. One man gets all the pussy he wants for the bargain basement price of a bag of Skittles, while the other man marries a woman in a wedding ceremony featuring flowers that cost $15,000.”
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/be-a-skittles-man/
The earthly rewards by male and female SMV:
Super alpha: Has pick of 18-24 y.o. hotties (8+).
Lesser alpha: 18-24 y.o. 6-7s, 25-29 y.o. 8+s.
Regular beta: 18-24 y.o. 4-5s, 25-29 y.o. 6-7s, 30-34 y.o. 8+s. (The most common situation, since regular betas are the most common type of man.)
Lesser beta: 18-24 y.o. 2-3s, 25-29 y.o. 4-5s, 30-34 y.o. 6-7s, 35-39 y.o. 8+s (note, for advanced female age, I mean an 8+ in her prime.)
Omega: 18-24 y.o. 0-1s, 25-29 y.o. 2-3s, 30-34 y.o. 4-5s, 35-39 y.o. 6-7s, 40+ y.o. 8+s. (Lena Dunham’s boyfriend is clearly an omega.)
I live in a nice area of downtown on a large east coast city and this is 100% accurate.
Rent is expensive so there are not many men under 25 but there is a large amount of women under 25 (my last roommate was 23 and spent 40% of her net income on rent, or daddy helps out). Thus, a single guy in his 30s is by default a lesser alpha.
A default alpha? Contrast is a hella of a thing.
You should be at Church.
Snarky mouthbreather here apparently doesn’t realize that church is on Sunday mornings…
That’s inaccurate. I’d say I’m an upper beta, but based on this I’m a lesser alpha simply because I prefer not doing it to doing subpar women. lol
There’s a reason dumpster diving turns women off.
“And a sexless honeymoon.”
No way. Even settling former carousel riders would fuck their husband a couple of times.
That was my thought as well… the honeymoon will be just fine… but enjoy the month while it lasts.
German ref demonstrates dominant eye contact. Alpha tell when a man invades another mans personal space even with his eyes.
BOSS! Real boss!
😀 😀
They so banged after the match.
I invade personal space all days with my eyes. Lets me know who I can punk when I need to.
German ref demonstrates dominant eye contact. Alpha tell when a man invades another mans personal space even with his eyes.
They, too, banged.
Only after the other guy got out of The Cooler the following week.
By way of contrast, the Gay Referee:
I didn’t know you were a soccer ref.
Only problem is that beta orbiters often are the most vehement opponents of the sweet science of pick-up, pre- or post-humiliation.
I read about this once. Pre-game, they hate it because game disrupts their only chance (begging) at getting with the woman they want. She’s too preoccupied with better men.
Meanwhile, a lot of them don’t take the time to ‘deprogram’ themselves and end up failing at any application of game, thereby hating it further because it “doesn’t work”. Then you end up ‘bronies’ and people who dive into their own world hate – vis-a-vis “the black pill”.
Every guy I know says he doesn’t care how many partners a girl has before he’s with her. Is that because they a) truly don’t care, b) know they are expected not to care and so struggle to convince themselves that it doesn’t matter, or c) do care but know they can’t get anything else?
I’ve never told a girl that once. Don’t know what type of soft men you hang around.
I’ll go with d) you don’t know any honest confident men
Have you met guys under 30 in this country?
The only one I know who’s ever told me he prefers that my count is him, is the one I’m engaged to. He also routinely expresses pleasure that I’m not fat, which is a nice reminder to go to the gym.
I have to believe men prefer thin and not used, but I just don’t understand why they don’t admit to it.
I’ve told many a skank in my sights on a bored night out the exact same thing.
It’s the standard lay-up to quell ASD in said member of the Sisters of the Slattern Sorority.
Oh, snap, you didn’t mean a player said it huh?
Pretty much what I figured.
Do the betas really believe it, though?
Some do, others don’t.
Are they SWPLs?
It’s mostly b), I’d say. ESPECIALLY if they want to have sex with you or date you.
I’ve heard it from black guys. But I’m white. Maybe they talk different to black girls.
Black guys are different from white guys: they have a lower level of jealousy and much more r selected. Wouldn’t suprise me if they actually thought that.
Most white guys are not like that though.
I thought our resident Cynthia was black. Who can keep up.
I thought you were black?
“I’ve heard it from black guys. But I’m white. Maybe they talk different to black girls.”
Did it sound like this – mup da doo didda po mo gub bidda be dat tum muhfugen… ?
I’m a redhead. I think there used to be somebody here called Nancy who was black, back when I was bored and could still get to this site through the Air Force firewall.
And yes, I understand that having red hair warps things somewhat for me.
You write like a fat whore with bad breath and ugly clothes 👚
Bad breath is close to the worst. It’s a constant fart from the mouth, but more rancid.
I once knew a girl with breath so bad, when she farted, all who were in the immediate vicinity exclaimed in unison:
“Aaaaaah… fresh air!”
Men view different types of women differently. For a hookup or a short term fling? Don’t care. For a wife? They care.
I think most guys say that because they don’t want to offend you if you’ve been with lots of men.
You can never really love a girl who was not your virgin.
Turn off The Cure. Go outside.
Because it has no benefits, admission, that is. If you yell a large enough segment of women, they’ll mind. Sure, I care, but I don’t make an issue out of it because:
1)thr caveat is that sluts are good just for sex, largely. This means some sluts would be offended and not be up for it anymore.
2)you don’t get anything extra from the girls who aren’t sluts. You just fill their heads with ‘omg, you’re the first non slut that fucks me!’ thoughts. Or what, will you learn to deep throat if he told you he prefers non used up girls? Lol
He want to give you the correct answer he’s been indoctrinated with since he knew what sex was – also on the off chance you might give him some he doesn’t want to spoil it.
Every guy I know says he doesn’t care how many partners a girl has before he’s with her. Is that because they a) truly don’t care, b) know they are expected not to care and so struggle to convince themselves that it doesn’t matter, or c) do care but know they can’t get anything else?
Geez, Louise…
d) Keeping your Slut Shield from activating, just in case of the opportunity for a quick pump-n-dump.
Dumb cooze. (((shakin’ mah haid)))
Options a-c were flailing hamsterspeak. It’s funny that even chicks who read this blog aren’t aware of the hamster
Heh, heh… yeah, by now one would think we’d be getting a sharper class of hamster.
If a hamster keeps spinning, does it get around to anything?
I’m aware of the hamster. I’m not trying to make myself feel better. The attitude of a lot of boys my age is just perplexing. The human brain only allows so much cognitive dissonance, so there has to be some kind of buy-in.
That is it right there. Romanticism: Note Roman. StValentine: a roman martyr. The heart associated with Valentine’s day is actually the female ass. Did your sweet girl not know that the representation of a heart is in fact a heart shaped ass. March 14th steak and BJ day, does she have the behavioural expectation on that day? No!, then you have got it all wrong playa.
The problem is that blow job day is everyday I’m with a girl. I would dump a girl if she had issues with giving oral sex and never understood my friends whose girlfriends didn’t put up with oral much.
“never understood my friends whose girlfriends didn’t put up with oral much.”
yeah and i bet those same guys are expected to go down on their girls every time too. clear sign that you’ve got problems when your girl cares more about her pleasure than yours.
I do wonder … how long sexual market optimists think beta males will put up with being sloppy sixths to carousel-worn vagina switched into semi-arid settling mode?
That which cannot go on indefinitely, will end. Or, to paraphrase a dark jest from a doctor I know … bleeding always stops.
Heh.
Off topic, no idea where to put this Alpha of the Year submission:
True love knows exactly what it can get away with and not lose everything.
+1000
The filter ate my comment again…
CH is mentioned, and quoted in a piece here,
RadixJournal.com
“A cat lady culture”
If I post the link the filter eats it…
If I’m still incel at 30 I will write off ever fucking a civilian female and just use hookers forever. if you don’t get to fuck girls when they are young and attractive it’s just a scam and not even worth it at all.
The way I see it, there is a social contract between males and females, that males get to fuck girls about their own age. Meaning they get to fuck young attractive girls when they are young, and in return for this continue to settle for older and less attractive females as they age. Seeing as I’ve been completely fucked out of getting my end of the deal, I feel absolutely zero obligation to fulfill my expectation.
Society expects me to settle for a used up 30-something who gave her best years to some dude bros, but I’m having no part in this and fully intend to only fuck young attractive girls no matter how old I end up being. I hope that many others join me in this line of thinking and that our generation of females dies alone and miserable while we fuck cheap young whores and don’t care.
” I hope that many others join me in this line of thinking and that our generation of females dies alone and miserable”
Do I need to explain the problem with that train of thought.
Whoring is fine if it gets you through the dry spells, but it’s not a substitute for learning good game. Game is still a skill set one needs to develop for when it is needed. Besides, isn’t game fun?
The irony of it all.
And that right there is the problem with you millenials. You think society owes you, owes you hot young girls to fuck, owes you a job, owes you free college, owes you healthcare, etc.
Quit being fucking lazy and work for something.
Shut the fuck up.
Seriously, you are a huge fucking faggot, but I am too lazy to explain why.
How about not polluting this space with dull, trite and moronic cliches?
I was amused by the article from marginalrevolution you shared on Twitter. It’s hilarious because these economists kept saying for decades that automation is good because it allows humans to have more free time and be more productive. Now they argue that if we are wholesale replaced by automatons, it’s ok because it conforms to their system that we are all replaceable cogs in a machine.
The reality is that if we invented machines that do everything, socialism works. Nobody has to work because machines do it so we should redistribute what the machines make. Consequently, we are free to just have fun all the time. I mean, if shoving a rod in their brain stem would result in constant pleasure, most humans would go for it, so why not this? It’s hilarious these people define their worth and the worth of humanity and other individuals based on how well they fit within their economic philosophy. Why would humanity cease to exist if we make full AI? There’s no reason for that to happen. On the other hand, with the advent of genetic engineering and technology that replicates bodily functions, there’s no reason for us to cease being what we define today as human.
Regarding Amy Schumer, how the heck can you be so unfunny and be a comedian? Girls aren’t generally funny, but there are some funny girls that aren’t just crass idiots. Do people actually attend Schumer’s shows in order to hear her say crass, but not funny things?
White male poet so brainwashed with white male cishet guilt that he asks women if he should be allowed to continue writing
http://electricliterature.com/should-white-men-stop-writing-the-blunt-instrument-on-publishing-and-privilege/
The troll is strong in that one. lol.
When I went on a 3 month dating spree last year with women in their 20s and 30s (I’m in my early 40s), I found articles on game, especially CH’s sixteen rules of poon to be most helpful.
At first, I had made the mistake of assuming that women outside of high school would not be as flaky as those girls in high school. My bad. I remember my first girlfriend during this time period would constantly flake out going from “I’m in love with you” to “I am sick, and I can’t come out today”. It was hard, after being out of the dating scene so long, but I stopped calling her after she broke off the relationship with me. Funny thing is that after about a week of radio silence on my part, she left frantic emails, texts and voicemails calling me a heartless asshole. She even played the “I might be pregnant!” card. My best-educated guess is that she was juggling a couple of beta orbiters who were white knighting for her. She was average looking, and we actually shared a lot of common interests. Was disappointed that it didn’t work out, but she was completely fucking nuts.
Two other girlfriends from this era were quite younger than myself. One of them was a party girl — I’d judge her about an 8/10, but she was also flaky. While she was physically attractive, our personalities were not very compatible. However, I recall one text where she said “Let’s just be friends?” and I said “Sure! You’re a sweet young woman, but I also don’t think we’re compatible, I started seeing somebody else”. After this, she started to send naked selfies of herself. I guess my taking the LBJF bad news with good cheer must have given her the tingles.
The other young woman was a knockout–easily a 9/10. I had severe Oneitis with her. We was very hot into me, but I guess my nice guy persona must have killed her attraction to me later on. I felt the relationship was flagging (her texts and phone calls were becoming more infrequent) and so I said I just wanted to be friends. I did the emotional cost-benefit analysis and figured that one would have to have the persona of a stone cold sociopath to get a reformed slut like her to fall in love with you. I dodged a bullet here–she described how she loved previous boyfriends who treated her like shit.
My current girlfriend is a very sweet and feminine woman ten years my junior. She has lovely red hair and breeding hips. I’m totally Oneitis with her, but I’m always wary of the red pill–not to the point of paranoia, but sometimes it’s good to self-calibrate and make sure that one does not devolve into a simpering omega.
Nice comment. I’ve had similar experiences.
“Do people actually attend Schumer’s shows in order to hear her say crass, but not funny things?”
Hey, if Lisa Lampanelli can do it….
If something can’t go on forever it won’t. Beta males will eventually either Game up or pr0n opt out. Either way the chump/sucker strategy of women chasing the carousel will end like the housing market bubble. Badly. Particularly when not if mass Third World immigration crashes the Welfare system and female jobs.
They’re saving up for the Oculus Rift.
If you look at our pop culture of the past fifty years or so, they sell the false hope that the nice guy, by catering to his every woman’s whims will get her approval and her affection in the end.
Beta game has it’s place sometimes, but in small doses. Playing games on my phone for several minutes in front of my girlfriend without acknowledging her presence has done more to get her sexually excited than all of the little gifts and flowers that I’ve gotten her combined. And I say this as someone who likes to do nice things for his woman by nature. No, I’m not a white knight apologist–I see no point in trying to curry favor with women by claiming I’m their protector. And if the subject of politics comes up, I lay out my conservative beliefs and let the chips fall where they may.
During my dating spree last year (before I settled into my current long term relationship, which has been great and healthy so far), I came across a lot of women closer to my age who were still chasing the ever elusive alpha. Considering that 52.5% of babies born are boys, and that most economic in-migration has been males looking for jobs, there is no shortage of desperate males willing to put aging reformed sluts on a pedestal. Peruse the incel forums where 99.9% of the posters are male.
The current situation is not sustainable. Peak liberalism is here, and there is simply not enough of Other People’s Money to keep the house of cards from collapsing.
I got your shiv here.
Single mom starlet goes on anonymous dating show (ok, braohhss, it’s a morning radio show stunt) and loses bro’s by the questions…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3110281/Hilary-Duff-rejected-SEVEN-men-anonymous-dating-challenge-reveals-s-single-mother.html
Can u imagine the reverse?
Single-mommery is a deal-killer whether it’s a “starlet” or a Duane Reade cashier. Those men who made the perfectly logical decision to drop her after hearing that she’s an unwed mother have nothing to regret.
Father Ted: I feckin miss that feckin show.
Speaking of Beta Males, write in with your best Captain SlapAHo responses to Emily that this guy could give if he weren’t a beta andor in the LJBF in the first place.
Have fun!
you wish
We’re friends?
I think a neg-reframe is the best way to redirect this ship:
“What was that? Your crotch bulge was distracting me”
OUCH!! That was painful. 😨
It’d be too incongruent and jarring given his previous beta male responses to her.
That said, the only response that I’d do in his position is:
Radio Silence. Crickets.
And find other girls.
That was what I thought, too.
Either that or the ascii johnson, then ratio silence. No butthurt, just non-com.
That said, the only response that I’d do in his position is:
Radio Silence. Crickets.
And find other girls.
Then introduce them to Emily.
This works on girls too. Give a terse non-sequitur reply about which she will inquire and then say something like she did. I’m sure she gets more pussy than he does. lol.
You can’t come up with a good answer to this that’s also congruent with his chat until then. He should have teased her about not using makeup instead of kissing her ass and I’d stay away from asking girls how their day has been. Generally, they will volunteer information if they want to talk about it. Asking people the question he did just shows he doesn’t know what to say or it’s what I make of it.
‘sorry, but i’m actually gay.'(don’t use if she might believe it, obviously lol)
‘why would i try to escape it? are you that good at sex?’
‘of course. i like walking with girls, but they have to wear a leash.’
‘what’s a friend zone? is it like an internment camp for friends?’
‘what’s a friend zone? does it have a roller coaster?’ (regardless of what she says, say ‘booooring’ and then say that roller coasters suck or rule depending on what she says; it’s funny to create faux antagonism with girls)
‘you’re such a meanie. i’m sure you want to take me to your friend zone because it’s actually empty’
‘is that how you call it, the friend zone?’
‘sorry, i can’t be friends with people with misspelled names'(I’m sure she would defend the silly spelling on her name and feel indignation which you will subsequently spin into bantering)
‘sorry, but we can’t be friends because I can’t trust you yet’. She will ask why. Then I’d say because I don’t trust people I haven’t sex with yet.
I didn’t bother thinking much because based on how they were chatting, I doubt he seemed busy, so mulling over what to write at this exact point would be self-defeating.
By the way, I think she was acting like this, not only because the guy is obviously beta, but because he first kissed her ass and inflated her ego. He basically did the ‘omg, your car is so nice, I always dreamed of having that model in that color. so how much do you want for it? i’d pay anything!’ of cars, but to this girl. ‘omg, they have good taste for liking you with no makeup, you unique princess, you! can I, pretty please, sniff your clitty just a bit?’.
The reason why I said men should make some fake girl dating profile to see how horrid most men are with women is because they’d get stupid shit like this. If you let the messages accumulate and you make yourself suffer through reading all the idiotic things you’ll get, you will start understanding women. The reason why flipping the script on girls works is, I think, because busy people with too many social stuff going on converge to thinking like girls do, even if male. I have to admit, if I was a cute girl, I’d be a flakey, shit testing brat.
“I have to admit, if I was a cute girl, I’d be a flakey, shit testing brat.”
Thanks for the tips… keep ’em coming!
Someone’s getting hooooornnnnyyy…
wow, what the fuck. Some frat bros are too nice to uninvited party crashers, leading to stuff that really lets the whole frat system down.
Not going to lie, he was one of my secret september pledges.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3111080/Girl-19-fatally-shot-college-party-uninvited-39-year-old-guest-following-argument-beer-pong-rules.html
That’s some sad shit. Cute gal! And yeah, the frat bros were too nice. Guess they didn’t read their CH.
Is it just me who feels sick not that things like this happen but that people suck up to the dead and even ventilate their ideas about them to the press? If I was fatally shot tomorrow night, I’d want my mother not to talk to the press nor would I want her to ramble about stupid shit about me, even if true.
Not to mention that even if she was a child molesting prostitute, her mother would say she was a caring soul, although considering her major choice, in this case it was probably accurate. I find it contemptible journalists pester beleaguered relatives of dead people too.
And maybe the frat boys were either trying to avoid confrontation by telling them to piss off from the beginning or that guy and his friends were actually nice until they were challenged.
And maybe the frat boys were either trying to avoid confrontation by telling them to piss off from the beginning or that guy and his friends were actually nice until they were
challenged asked to leave a party they weren’t invited to to begin with.FIFY
This references that other previous thread about how white folks walk on eggs around negroes and “try to be nice” at first… until they find out too late it was a fool’s errand.
The 39 y.o. was one of t-h-w-a-c-k’s brethren. Huge surprise.
They wouldn’t have let a white 39 y.o. in unless he was friends with one of the brothers.
There’s Black Privilege for ya.
WOW!
https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/daily-afternoon-randomness-49-photos-312.jpg?w=600&h=671
http://i.imgur.com/jeTiEJO.jpg?1
I love yer style, and yer fuckin insights man. Proof that you get some. Now! No serious I wondered bout validity of prior post, which girl can be gotten back, but female store clerk friend assuradly confirmed. But sexless honeymoon? Hyperbole?! I hate hyperbole, it smacks of religion and new testament. Coming from a poor awkward seducer learning to drink and work at 33, but also a great fucking lover making bit.m partners climaxm turns out orgasm isn’t most important for her. Not really. Face is! Really sexless honeymoon? Don’t use hyperbole. It weakens the blog(osphere). If true this demands citation. Thanks man!