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Birthday Cat Game

Ah, Birthday Cat, what distaff hearts can’t you warm? A reader (his chat in blue bubbles) sends a screenshot of his phone, demonstrating the power of the cutesy non sequitur to drive women wild with curiosity and arousal.

Women ask questions when they are intrigued by a man. A completely uninterested woman would simply not reply to the cat pictogram, or would blow it off with her own non sequitur.

That phrase “…I guess” is also telling. Translating from the womanese, “…I guess” means “…I guess I don’t know what you think about me, and it’s driving me nuts.”

Some more Birthday Cat Game in action, here.

170 Responses to “Birthday Cat Game”

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  3. PA says:

    An example of beta bait / cougar batting beta mice around for her amusement, which I see on FB:

    – Formerly hot cougar posts a non-sequitour
    – Beta mouse posts “?” or worse yet, a request for clarification.
    – Cougar ignores beta’s question.

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    • mendozatorres says:

      The classic one is the sad face and nothing else. Beta bait!

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    • Arbiter says:

      The funny thing is I saw something like that just the other day. How true.

      Beware the bitter aging woman who is unloved. But I have to wonder where she’s coming from. Was she more agreeable when she was young, and meanness comes with old age and loneliness? Or was she always like that, and her dark nature is just expressed differently when she is older?

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      • 88 says:

        “was she always like that, and her dark nature is just expressed differently when she is older?”

        i think most of them are women who have always been like that.

        in my experience, the happy go lucky girls with good attitudes usually seem to stay that way for most of their lives. same with the bad attitude girls. things just get more or less amplified over time but their base personality is always the same.

        it’s all about a person’s personal outlook on life. being happy in life is an internal process. it’s all a choice.

        you could take two people and have them both have really difficult and even traumatic events happen in their lives and they will come out of it totally differently based on their personality, their strength of character, and their ability to see life realistically.

        some people will blame the world for their bad attitude and unhappiness and just feel sorry for themselves all the time. others will roll with life, learn lessons, and see opportunities in every struggle.

        i’m sure there exceptions but when you see bitter ones like you’re talking about, i bet you could almost always go back in their past and you’d see they were basically the same way their whole lives. always focusing on the negative. always talking about their bad days, being sick, how other people have it so much easier than them. no gratitude or appreciation for the good things that happen in their lives. taking all the credit for their successes and blaming others for their failures.

        and people always give the most attention to the squeaky wheels. the ones who seem to always need help or support. these girls tend to get a lot of attention for being weak, fragile and messed up so there is really no reason for them to suck it up and get their act together. why would they when they are getting all the attention they could ever want?

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      • Glengarry says:

        Personality is one of the important things for LTRs. No BPD, obviously. Avoid the sourpuss. Women know this, which is why it takes some time for their crazy to peek out.

        One of the amusing cultural consequences is the disdain for the “manic pixie dream girl” in movies. What is she? An energetic, kind girl of sunny disposition. Clearly an evil myth dreamt by those awful insensitive men and their demands.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Pixie_Dream_Girl

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      • 88 says:

        “One of the amusing cultural consequences is the disdain for the “manic pixie dream girl” in movies. What is she? An energetic, kind girl of sunny disposition. Clearly an evil myth dreamt by those awful insensitive men and their demands.”

        you’re right. other women are so jealous of women like this that they do everything they can to convince themselves and everyone else that they don’t exist. they tell themselves that the girls with energetic sunny dispositions are just faking it to please men because it’s impossible for anyone to really be like that. not true at all.

        now, i have to admit. i’ve met girls who were upbeat and fun and have questioned whether or not it was the real deal. but the reality is, you can’t fake your personality forever. as you said, the crazy always peeks out eventually.

        over time as you get to know a person and have to deal with them in a wide variety of circumstances and scenarios, you will see patterns in their behavior. the key is to cut your losses as soon as you start to see a negative pattern because odds are, it’s not going change.

        if a girl is generally a happy easy going person, she might have bad days once in awhile but over time, in a variety of circumstances, the majority of her responses and reactions are going to be positive and upbeat.

        same thing with a debbie downer. she can fake happy go lucky for awhile and maybe intermittently during a relationship but her negative attitude is going to reveal itself over and over and over again.

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      • Ohiomega says:

        We live in the kingdom of entropy. The things about life that we see as good are really just less horrifying, difficult, or depressing than the norm. To be happy is therefore illogical. Depressed persons actually have a slightly more realistic perception of life than “normal” ones, i.e. rose-colored glasses are necessary for the enjoyment of this existence. Source: Psych 101 at a large Midwestern diploma mill.

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      • 88 says:

        “Depressed persons actually have a slightly more realistic perception of life than “normal” ones”

        nope.

        some of the most depressed an unpleasant people i’ve ever known have also been the most unrealistic. they have the highest and most unrealistic expectations of anybody around and that’s why they are always so unhappy.

        they want and almost expect everything in life to be easy and pleasant. or they think that happiness will just come to them with no effort on their part.

        they also tend to only see the negatives in everything and feel sorry for themselves instead of gaining strength and knowledge from struggle and adversity. then when life doesn’t go the way they expect it to (it never does by the way) they can’t seem to cope with it. that isn’t realism. that’s weakness.

        whereas the true realist understands and accepts that life is crappy a lot or even most of the time. and instead of feeling sorry for himself, he understands that the best way to cope is to be resilient and willing to learn and gain strength from the bad stuff and to appreciate and enjoy the good that comes his way.

        being a realist does include acknowledging and accepting everything. that includes the good. so if you can’t do that, you aren’t a realist. you are just choosing to be unhappy.

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      • gunlingergregi says:

        they also tend to only see the negatives in everything and feel sorry for themselves instead of gaining strength and knowledge from struggle and adversity. then when life doesn’t go the way they expect it to (it never does by the way) they can’t seem to cope with it. that isn’t realism. that’s weakness.’
        ”””””””””””””’

        what is the point of the struggle and adversity
        and really life aint that hard to beat on hard level so what the fuck

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      • Ohiomega says:

        “they want and almost expect everything in life to be easy and pleasant. or they think that happiness will just come to them with no effort on their part.”

        That’s because that’s the way an intelligently created universe would operate. Ceasing to rage against that machine and instead abandoning yourself to the mentality of, “Oh, well, it is the way it is; better make due,” is the true capitulation. Ought>is for the principled thinker.

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      • gunslingergregi says:

        then when life doesn’t go the way they expect it to (it never does by the way)
        ””””””””’

        for some people it goes exactly the way they expect it to
        some people can actually say tomorrow is gonna be like this and it is

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      • B says:

        “they want and almost expect everything in life to be easy and pleasant. or they think that happiness will just come to them with no effort on their part. ”

        It’s more about understanding how this society is designed to exploit people and keep people down. Those who see the greater design just see all the artificial barriers for what they really are. Those who don’t think the barriers are ‘challenges’ or some other BS. No, they are other people deliberately making things difficult for fun or profit.

        Knowledge of how the world really works is very depressing. Just thinking well that’s the way it is and jumping through the hoops and taking the good with the bad can make for a happier person but there’s no real understanding from that. I wouldn’t call them realists for accepting the conditions. It’s more of resignation, a coping mechanism.

        Happiness (generally imo) comes from either isolation or ignorance. One can isolate himself from the people who will bring unhappiness or he can be ignorant of what other people are doing and just see the effects as random life challenges. Isolation has become increasingly difficult. Everything else is a coping mechanism.

        Those few who can understand it and be happy in spite of it are the exception, not the rule. Most happy people I find are entirely ignorant of how they are being f’d. They believe the BS they were fed since they were children and thus can manage to be happy by not allowing that perception bubble to be pricked.

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      • Daniel Plainview says:

        Life is a brutal struggle. When you are winning it is totally exhilarating though. This is why we form social and ethnic groups. In order to piggyback our way to dominance over other groups.

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      • Putin says:

        “i think most of them are women who have always been like that.

        in my experience, the happy go lucky girls with good attitudes usually seem to stay that way for most of their lives. same with the bad attitude girls. things just get more or less amplified over time but their base personality is always the same.

        it’s all about a person’s personal outlook on life. being happy in life is an internal process. it’s all a choice.

        you could take two people and have them both have really difficult and even traumatic events happen in their lives and they will come out of it totally differently based on their personality, their strength of character, and their ability to see life realistically.

        some people will blame the world for their bad attitude and unhappiness and just feel sorry for themselves all the time. others will roll with life, learn lessons, and see opportunities in every struggle.

        i’m sure there exceptions but when you see bitter ones like you’re talking about, i bet you could almost always go back in their past and you’d see they were basically the same way their whole lives. always focusing on the negative. always talking about their bad days, being sick, how other people have it so much easier than them. no gratitude or appreciation for the good things that happen in their lives. taking all the credit for their successes and blaming others for their failures.

        and people always give the most attention to the squeaky wheels. the ones who seem to always need help or support. these girls tend to get a lot of attention for being weak, fragile and messed up so there is really no reason for them to suck it up and get their act together. why would they when they are getting all the attention they could ever want?”

        Excellent

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      • Anonymous says:

        “This is why we form social and ethnic groups. In order to piggyback our way to dominance over other groups”

        and thus the neocons were formed to destroy the white culture of European decent.

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    • PA, the chick in question here asks a valid question as regards Birthday Cat GIF: “What is that?” So either you need a snappy rejoinder to her question or else you need to invoke radio silence. PS: The one candle on the cake is more than a little ph@llic and could easily evoke thoughts of ej@cul@tion – a FemLit majorette might probe that angle.

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    • Last night my present gf wanted me to butthext.

      She said, “As good and reknown as you are with your lotstas cockas, you need to learn how to serve my butt tingzllzozozozoz.”

      Da GBFM said, “Yes I know dat I am a master of da lostsa cockas and there are no others, but learning how to buttehxt as proficiently–that would be like starting all over again from the bottom.”

      lzozozolzololzozozoz

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    • Last night my present gf wanted me to butthext.

      She said, “As good and reknown as you are with your lotstas cokkas, you need to learn how to serve my buttz tingzllzozozozoz.”

      Da GBFM said, “Yes I know dat I am a master of da lostsa cokkas and there are no others, but learning how to buttehxt as proficiently–that would be like starting all over again from the bottom.”

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    • a GBFM LOVES LOVES LOVES ORWELLLZZ even do now and den he did msisppleel some wordz and makes som grammaatcial misstakes which da gbfm corrected has correcteted zlzozo

      “In a time of butthext telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
      ― George Orwell

      “He who controls the butthext controls the future. He who controls the buttehxt controls the past.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “butthext is peace.
      Freedom is butthetx.
      butthetx is strength.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “Perhaps one did not want to be butthetxed so much as to be understood.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “All animals buytthext, but some animals are more buttehxt than others.”
      ― George Orwell, Animal Farm

      “It was a bright cold day in April, and the cocks were striking thirteen.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “Political language is designed to make butthext sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. ”
      ― George Orwell

      “The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and butthext their own understanding of their history.”
      ― George Orwell

      “The best books… are those that tell you what you know already.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “The creatures outside looked from pig to jonah goldberg, and jonah goldberg to pig, and from pig to neocon again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
      ― George Orwell, Animal Farm

      “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a cock buttehxting a human face—for ever.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “The essence of being human is that one does not seek perfection.”
      ― George Orwell, In Front of Your Nose: 1945-1950

      “We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.” (which ruels out neoeocnth bunghoellzozoz)
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “Writing a book is a horrible, exhausting struggle, like a long buttehxt with some painful illness. One would never undertake such a thing if one were not driven on by some demon whom one can neither resist nor understand.”
      ― George Orwell

      “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
      ― George Orwell

      “Every generation imagines itself to be more intelligent than the one that went before it, and wiser than the one that comes after it.”
      ― George Orwell

      “If you want to keep a secret, you must also hide it from yourself.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “Butthetx means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them in da bunghoelzolz.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “But if thought buttehxtes language, language can also buttehxt thought.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “Perhaps a lunatic GBFM was simply a minority of one.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “Big Brother is Buttehxting You.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to buttehxt on their behalf.”
      ― George Orwell

      “Until they became conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984
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      “Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks buttehxtual power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in buttehxt power, pure power. What pure buttehxt power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know what no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is buttehxt. Now you begin to understand me.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “It’s a beautiful thing, the buttehxting of words.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “In the face of pain there are no heroes.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “If you loved someone, you loved him, and when you had nothing else to give, you still gave him love.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

      “On the whole human beings want to be good, but not too good, and not quite all the time.”
      ― George Orwell, All Art Is Propaganda: Critical Essays

      “Men can only be happy when they do not assume that the object of life is happiness.”
      ― George Orwell

      “Power is in butteehxing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984

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    • what a dickhead!

      lzozoozoloz

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  4. BigAl says:

    Cats love to play with hampsters

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  5. earl says:

    ‘Women ask questions when they are intrigued by a man.’

    Or they really don’t know what is going on. That’s just as plausible.

    [CH: come on, cracka. don’t be snide. context matters. it’s obvious this was a convo taking place within romantically pregnant confines, so like i said, questions asked by the woman are glaring indicators of interest.]

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  6. mendozatorres says:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/30-000-baby-u-s-sees-boom-in-fertility-treatments-1431595801

    Damn! I’m going back to finance. Whoever thought of making money of this was wise. What happens when this bubble bursts though?

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  7. Isthatso says:

    This isnt game, the girls were already interested.

    [CH: game is as much about maintenance or re-ignition as it is about initial attraction.]

    He couldve posted a pic of a colonoscopy and theyd still be on his nuts.

    [a colonoscopy pic would fall under non sequitur game.]

    On an unrelated note, what do you think is more likely to lose a girl: getting caught cheating on her with a girl of equal or higher attractiveness, or getting caught trying to hook up with randos on tinder of lower attractiveness than her?

    [the latter. but the former would in the long run be more corrosive to your primary relationship.]

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    • 88 says:

      definitely more likely to lose her if the girl is lower in attractiveness. been there done that.

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    • meistergedanken says:

      The latter. Obviously.

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    • corvinus says:

      Agreed.

      If you go dumpster-diving, it’s a DLV; she’ll conclude you simply hid your low value long enough to get lucky with her, and she’ll dump you. Or at least, you’ll be in the doghouse for a long time.

      Whereas, cheating on her with a higher-value woman is a DHV; she’ll feel upset and insecure about the other woman, but if you’ll notice when such cases happen with celebrities, the relationship only breaks up if the man pulls the plug.

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  8. anonymous says:

    http://www.boredpanda.com/lecturer-soothes-crying-baby-professor-sydney-engelberg-hebrew-university/

    “Women are better parents/more responsible” my ass.

    Also, what is it with gen x and millennial women being resentful of their children? All the time I see (relatively) young women – who even admit they wanted a child! – talk to their 2-5 year olds as though the kids were acting up to spite them. These twits bring their brats to late social gatherings and act like it is the exhausted toddler’s fault for crying! Pathetic.

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  9. “…demonstrating the power of the cutesy non sequitur to drive women wild with curiosity and arousal.”

    No disagreement on the existence of the phenomenon, but questing the accuracy or relevance of the interpretation. I think if you show logic, culture, but adult responsibility as a somewhat civilized man would understand and embrace, you get a hostile herd white-cell immune response that culls the pathogen (you or me) afflicting the cohesion narrative illusion. I’d be surprised if 10% of readers can make sense of that, and they are for whom I write, not the bitterly perplexed.

    The question then: Is it that women love something inherent about the non sequitur or its contrast to the threat of cultural integrity? Wiki says the ns could be a literary device expressing silliness, or logical fallacy which is essentially the literary device stripped of the narrative context. I think women are flaky and lost in a man’s world of culture, even at the savage level of culture, and will cling to a guy who ‘gets it’, meaning her acultural animal view of her special snowflake existence (and presumably everyone else’s in a convenient support role). Non sequitur could not only NOT trigger the immune response and create a social safe space but also, if even more calibrated, trigger a POSITIVE response from its own content and its own implication from the social context.

    If stupid talk (non sequitur) works in sexual seduction for simply not being smart and culturally threatening, it works because of what 99% of men do socially with liberated women. Certainly, this is an important concept of platonic seduction, for keeping your job and playing work politics regardless of what other men do since women are politically privileged cunts on a cunt hair trigger. On the sexual front, I don’t think avoiding adult concerns is enough for creaming vags into submission.

    Becoming more successful with women could change my mind of course. I am a rationalist, an NT, and the why matters to me. Call me spergy out of jealousy or fear, but seeing the why is what will ultimately lay out the map of escalation before me. It has only happened one time for me, every fucking step from a mile away, and no prize, but prescience with pussy is a prophylactically beautiful attribute and experience enhancer I want. I suggest that masculine prescience makes women swoon with pseudo-worship zealousness, and if you aren’t her ‘god’, you aren’t shit and you are playing with fire, which is why the clear manifestation of alpha sperm donor archetype from the start, and why the dump after the pump, is so fucking essential. And if this does not go through immediately, then I will have posted this on my blog, perhaps redundantly. Not accepting a flush of my efforts. Hope this stimulates discussion per peer review of the scientific method.

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  10. tspark156 says:

    Chick that clearly wants me to fuck her: What star sign are you?
    Devilishly Handsome Cad: The sexy one.

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  11. cheesetrader says:

    Birthday Cat is one of the most powerful forces in the Pooniverse

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  12. […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  13. Peter P says:

    Bish in college story:
    -Met her last friday in a party through some friends.
    -Got her number and didn’t text her because I forgot.
    -Ran across her on monday and we talked, she was damn flirting with me.
    -“You didn’t text me” lozlzolz “Do you have a girlfriend” “What type of women do you like” Shit tests passed gloriously.
    -On tuesday, a friend tells me she has a boyfriend. (Bro, I don’t care)
    -Saw her that day later and she was grabbing/punching my arm, holding hands, laughing at every stupid joke I made. She wanted the D. Didn’t go for the kiss because too many people there (?).
    -Yesterday, she’s sitting with her boyfriend and arguing. I passed in front of them and I just smirked.
    -She texts me that night asking why I didn’t say hello. (Bish defying me?). I replied “you were with your brother” lzozlozlz
    -Today, I ran across her three times. I was with friends the three times. Three times she ignored me/looked away. She is always the one who approaches me. We weren’t close but the second time she passed like 2 meters away, I said “someone got grounded huh” My friends laughed. She looked down.

    What the fuck could’ve just happened?

    -Someone we have in common told her shit about me. I’m not that good with women but I can manage to get laid regularly. Although I don’t think this stops women.
    -Someone told her boyfriend something.
    -I fucked it up yesterday and did something very beta. But I can’t think of anything. When I had to go, she even grabbed my hand and didn’t want to let me go.

    What can cause a women to get that cold on you when, literally, 9 hours before, she was into you.

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    • Sentient says:

      “I fucked it up yesterday and did something very beta. But I can’t think of anything.”

      But you don’t remember this?

      “She wanted the D. Didn’t go for the kiss because too many people there”

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  14. Peter P says:

    Will apply on a girl I flaked three times. Let’s see

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  15. chris says:

    Experimental support for the existence of male anti-cuckoldry cognitive mechanisms.

    http://toddkshackelford.com/downloads/Starratt-McKibbin-Shackelford-PAID-2013.pdf

    [CH: very interesting, if unsurprising to CH regulars. the killer line from the abstract is this one:

    “women were not influenced by the partner infidelity manipulation”

    chicks don’t get sexually jealous the same way men do.]

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    • Ohiomega says:

      Jealousy is one of the most ponderous preoccupations of these. . . “humans”.

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    • Arbiter says:

      Interesting:

      Women’s reports of distress in response to a partner’s sexual
      rejection were not influenced by the infidelity manipulation
      (hypothesis 3). This should not be taken to imply that women
      are not responsive to infidelity. Rather, this suggests that women
      are not responsive to infidelity in the same manner as are men.

      As women are not at any risk of cuckoldry, women are not hypothe-
      sized to have evolved mechanisms devoted to the adaptive prob-
      lem of cuckoldry and so should not be expected to demonstrate a
      psychological response to a variable specifically hypothesized to
      be cuckoldry-relevant. We may, however, hypothesize women to
      demonstrate responsiveness to variables relevant to adaptive
      problems women were likely to face over evolutionary history,
      such as a partner’s social rejection or restriction of access to
      resources.

      Translation: men will be more upset over a wife’s infidelity because he could be stuck supporting another man’s child. A woman will not be as upset over a husband’s infidelity because any child resulting from that will be for another family/tribe to take care of. This is not to say a woman would not be upset, because infidelity could mean the husband is going to leave her. But evolution has made it so that she would no be quite as upset as a man would be. It’s bad if the husband cheats, but disastrous if the woman does it.

      I would add: this concern, having to support another man’s child, also leads the whole tribe to oppose the woman’s infidelity. If the woman cheats it is therefore a “scandal”. The man is expected to guard the tribe against this kind of intrusion and he failed. He will not easily forgive the woman for putting him in that situation.

      Remember this when people say it’s just as bad if a man has intra-racial sex as if a woman has it. No, it’s not. As a very old saying goes, “The woman holds the tribe in her womb”. The men in the tribe can have countless children, the women can have only a few, and it’s the women’s children the tribe must take are of. Everyone instinctively knows, therefore, that it’s much worse if a woman goes mudsharking. Even if they can’t express it in words, as the schools refuse to teach evolutionary psychology – as it would explain the world and be the antidote to cultural Marxism.

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  16. She’s already closed. The next line should be given 8 hours later “X pub, 30 minutes.” nothing more. It should be a bar within 5 minutes of where you’re located. Then, don’t show up. If she texts you “I’m here, where R U?” Show up without responding 5 minutes later. If she doesn’t text, you saved yourself embarrassment and wasted time.

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    • Turkey Baster says:

      I’d go have a huge cardboard emoji cat made at kinkos – then go to my local bar – prop it up on a stool and sit and drink with it … once I’m red-faced drunk – have the bartender take our picture and text that to her. Then I’ll cut out the candle – hang my shlong through the hole – and knock on her door.

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  17. Coldwarvet says:

    The linked thread on “pictogram texting” had this great line in it (paraphrasing a bit) “just wait ’til you see what’s in the future.” Yes, already been seeing some of those portents in Skype with a good wifi connection at both ends. And that’s just scratching the surface of the burgeoning “portable, contextual, and hot-media-involving” virtual reality.

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  18. Ohiomega says:

    OT: When I wake up, my right foot doesn’t. Is that bad?

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  19. today at the playground with my niece

    random 10 year old girl: “you have a very deep voice. do you know that?”

    me, pointing to the adult with her: “he does too.”

    random 10 year old girl: “no. he has like a high, deep voice. yours is deep deep.”

    me: go play

    if you’re texting you’re missing out on giving one of the prime signals even a 10 year old notices.

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  20. Anonymous says:

    Damn the mod

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  21. dirkdiggly says:

    Question for the readers:

    Anyone here ever feel extreme guilt and sadness about letting go of a truly sweet, giving, feminine, otherwise perfect LTR just so you can go play the field? “Leave then better than you found them” blah blah, but I feel heavy hearted about accepting a few years of their prime fertility and beauty while knowing inside I ain’t gonna pop the question.

    Being game-aware is dark. Even when you are on the winning end of your female interactions. I don’t want to lose my conscience, but I can’t seem to reconcile playing the game and not being in some way deceitful. It hurts when they sense it and they ask you gain and again if you really love them an tell you how they don’t want to stop being with you.

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    • FilthyMattress says:

      empathy is a tool to understand your opposition, dont let it turn into a handicap

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    • Battle of the Centaurs says:

      If it’s truly meant to be, your ‘twin flame’ as some occultists would say, you won’t be able to walk away. At least that’s what I’ve always told myself. Otherwise keep rolling. What matters is the intensity and passion of your experiences, no matter how long fate herself wants them to keep flaring. Watch the really old movie Portrait of Jennie if you can get ahold of it, makes you think about this type of shit on another level.

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    • Laguna Beach Fogey says:

      No apologies, no remorse. Let it go and move on.

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    • Captain Obvious says:

      Extreme guilt and sadness? Because a wonderful girl threw away the best years of her life in a purposeless relationship with you? In the very midst of the White Race unbreeding itself straight into extinction? http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/among-millennials-theres-a-baby-bust/2015/05/04/c98d5a08-f295-11e4-84a6-6d7c67c50db0_story.html

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    • Fowler says:

      I feel the same way dirkdiggly. I’ve already told my sweet, feminine GF of 2 years whose virginity I took that I’m never getting married nor having children and she states she’s okay with that. Deep down inside, I think she’s hoping I change my mind down the line.

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    • Turkey Baster says:

      It’s fine. Be selfish until your ready to be selfless.

      She’s ready – your not – get off the pot.

      Because Brother, it’s all fun and games until you have children.

      And that is what she’s driving at.

      Now, I must warn you – you’re on the clock too – and when a woman has your child and you suddenly realize how much love you can feel – you may regret having squandered the time playing games.

      Or, not. Lots of dudes I’ve known jumped right into marriage and kids and many ended up breaking up their families. Big mess.

      You gotta figure out what you want and when – for yourself.

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    • PA says:

      L’amour est enfant de Bohême,
      Il n’a jamais, jamais connu de loi;
      Prends garde à toi!

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    • earl says:

      ‘I don’t want to lose my conscience, but I can’t seem to reconcile playing the game and not being in some way deceitful. It hurts when they sense it and they ask you gain and again if you really love them an tell you how they don’t want to stop being with you.’

      That’s called your conscience and it’s a good thing. Because a lot of game is deceit.

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    • Captain Obvious says:

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    • having a bad day says:

      @dirkdiggly

      why would you give up a sweet LTR?…serious question…you don’t have to be exclusive (that’s blue pill/feminine imperative conditioning in play = only 1 woman per man…see Rational Male for more…and Black Dragon for mLTR advice)…as long as you’re honest about the situ (you don’t have to be deceitful, if your game is good…), no need for guilty conscience…just hold your frame…plus, if you want kids, you don’t have to get married…no social stigma currently…you just have to pay for them…lol…

      and yes, game awareness is dark…but that bitterness you’re feeling just means you haven’t choked that red pill all the waaay down, yet…you are still clinging to the possibility of the fantasy of a blue pill life…reality just…IS…you can’t change it…nobody can…and SEEING what’s right in front of you without bias…THAT’s red pill…

      so, you have three options – 1) go poolside (and enjoy the decline) like our host (although, to be honest, he’s trying to turn around the decline in his own way), 2) try to evangelize to turn it around (like CO…or other tradcons…but that’s a HUGH undertaking…and i wish them luck…but i don’t see it happening, the forces in play are just too autonomous and intractable…but i’ve been wrong before…and i hope i am this time…) or 3) live your life in the middle – help the men that are ready to listen and live your own life in the most fulfilling way you can…using your knowledge/understanding of reality (red pill) to do that…and if that includes mLTRs with some sweet, feminine hb8s…so be it…lol…

      good luck!

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      • Sentient says:

        “help the men that are ready to listen and live your own life in the most fulfilling way you can…using your knowledge/understanding of reality (red pill) to do that…”

        Word.

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    • having a bad day says:

      @dirkdiggly

      stack ate another one…

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    • John Nesteutes says:

      If she were willing to engage in sexual activity with you before marriage, she’s not a perfect woman, no matter how well she deceived you into thinking so.

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    • Anonymous says:

      I just roll my eyes when I read the self-justifying crap ‘leave them better than you found them’. What a pantload. So you lie to her and string her along for (weeks, months, years?) and then finally cut bait and move on. And she ends up emotionally damaged. And this is leaving her better… how, exactly?

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      • Sentient says:

        LOL… This is just because you have never given a woman anything – joy, knowledge, fun, experiences, etc… You have just taken.

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    • Arbiter says:

      Anyone here ever feel extreme guilt and sadness about letting go of a truly sweet, giving, feminine, otherwise perfect LTR just so you can go play the field?

      Then why leave her? There must be some reason other than that you want to sleep with other girls. Tradcons will bitch and moan over CH teachings, but I expect that 99 percent of readers will stick with a girl when they find one who is girlfriend material. That is NOT unconducive with game.

      I did leave a girl like that, though. A few years ago. Because I couldn’t talk about important matters with her. She would just listen silently and wait for me to finish. She wished that I wouldn’t talk or read about political things since even though she agreed, she knew it was dangerous. I understand she wouldn’t want to be politically active, but I can’t be with a girl who I can’t at least talk to about these things. It is an important part of life.

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        A, you also want the M0ther of your Ch!ldren to have a little more sp!r!tual and m0ral fiber than that – you don’t want to breed cowardice into your 0ffspring.

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  22. Putin says:

    Field Report;

    Went to my Happy Place. Fishing was pretty slow for a while Was there a while and thought about leaving but decided to stay a little longer. Told a couple gals to watch my table as I went back in to go to the bathroom. Came back out and thanked them. We started a conversation. They were black sisters from Spain. A 5 and a 7-8 with a curvy brick house body. They said I reminded them of an actor in some movie. I went over to their table and gave them my number so they could text me the name of the movie when they remembered it. So this is when it gets good…

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    • Putin says:

      . I put my hand out as the sisters are inputting my phone number. The 8 puts her hand out and we hold each others hand. This was no business hand shake mind you. As they are getting my number I look up at someone coming from the parking lot. Walking right at me is the 8. She is dressed to kill. I mean sick, sick, sick! A tight, little white dress. She is looking at me as I am looking at her.

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    • Putin says:

      . As they are getting my number I look up at someone coming from the parking lot. Walking right at me is the 8. She is dressed to kill. I mean sick, sick, sick! A tight, little white dress. She is looking at me as I am looking at her.

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      • Anonymous says:

        She slowly released as she kept walking while gently sliding her hand against mine as she released. Seductress. Not a word was said. Not a word.

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      • Putin says:

        She slowly released as she kept walking while gently sliding her hand against mine as she released. Seductress. Not a word was said. Not a word.

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      • Anonymous says:

        So I have re-calibrated my game to incorporate some of my old stuff which was useful in building my first empire before getting married I WALKED. The sisters hamsters were getting on the treadmill with that whole scene with the 8. I get into my vehicle and see the 8 in the rear view mirror come out to the patio and set her stuff up at the table I was at. I drive away. 321…..

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      • Anonymous says:

        $!#$@!#$&^^&^&

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      • Benson says:

        The suspense is making me laugh my ass off.

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      • Putin says:

        So I have re-calibrated my game to incorporate some of my old stuff which was useful in building my first empire before getting married I walked.

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      • Putin says:

        “They are the lifeblood of a game forum. They, not the veteran poster’s standard comments that bring in no new experiences.”

        This is probably one of the most important pieces of wisdom for CH. Another good call Arbiter. CH is blessed to have people like you here.
        With that said I actually took at least two comments as a compliment especially knowing one of the posters. GE is sometimes hard for me to read but has made me laugh a few times.
        I normally don’t go poetic but the feelings were there so I went with it. I have no shame because an Alpha in my book is not someone with “no feelings” but someone who knows how to not let the feelings, emotions cause him to make beta/bad decisions.

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    • House Negro says:

      Didn’t someone write a song about that?

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    • Greg Eliot says:

      Hold on, my foot fell asleep… he doesn’t want to miss this.

      :duckface

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      • Arbiter says:

        Come on guys, don’t give him a hard time just because he writes in a dramatic way instead of in game terminology. He is writing a field report, that should always be encouraged.

        So he’s expressing admiration for a girl’s looks and gestures. You might think it sounds mushy, but it’s not so bad. You can’t go through life being cynical. And most people who aren’t hardcore manospherians will have moments when they feel like being poetic about life. If people have to restrict themselves when writing field reports, if they feel like they’ll be on trial – usually by veteran commenters who don’t write field reports of their own – then they’ll say screw it and go somewhere else.

        Don’t kill the field reports with cynicism. They are the lifeblood of a game forum. They, not the veteran poster’s standard comments that bring in no new experiences.

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      • Greg Eliot says:

        I don’t share your enthusiasm for these field reports.

        They seem to invariably occur at night clubs and bars, and the try-hard, no style, under-educated clowns don’t really seem to be looking for anything beyond a bang from an equally vapid specimen of the female gender.

        “Put your number in my phone”… meh.

        gunslingergregi, veteran of wars both foreign and domestic, has more elan in one paragraph of his stream-of-consciousness musings than the whole lot of these wanna-be PUAs who never had to test their manhood beyond a game of WoW.

        Shaming their inanity here can’t be any more painful for them than getting laughed out of the nightclubs by floozies who shouldn’t be given the time of day, merely because they look like they might give you a tumble if you flash enough cash or blow in front of their slutty noses.

        Get wise, get to church, get lifting, and get skilled at something that will make you a good living so you don’t have to kowtow to anyone, man or woman…

        … and concentrate on women who would make good relationship material… everything else just feeds the current malaise and is a one-way ticket down the road to oblivion.

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      • PA says:

        gunslingergregi, veteran of wars both foreign and domestic, has more elan in one paragraph of his stream-of-consciousness musings

        That’s very good description.

        … and concentrate on women who would make good relationship material

        That’s all good, focusing game-apologia on relationship-building has been a go-to ever since the late Larry Auster’s, shall we say, generational misunderstanding with CH.

        And yet, looking back at some of my field reports her (albeit more like reminiscences) my favorite ones involved occasions with girls who certainly were not good relationship material.

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  23. Putin says:

    Damn the mod to hell.

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  24. gunlingergregi says:

    gj men he he he
    tearing up the threads with the comedy

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  25. BetaMax says:

    Alright guys, need some thoughts. Admitted lifetime beta here. So girl I’ve liked for awhile gets out of a LTR, starts texting me. I’m out of town tonight (which she knows) and I get the following text: “Wish you were here tonight”. I wait awhile and reply: “Hmmm, what do you suppose we’d be doing?”

    Probably proving beyond all reasonable doubt that I’m a beta, she responds: “Just relaxing and talking. I love to talk to you. :)”

    Oof. I took my time trying to figure out how to respond and if I should respond. Finally decided on the short/ snarky text strategy and replied: “sounds hot. lol”

    That was an hour ago, have not heard anything back yet. I know this is probably a hopeless cause, but I’m curious general thoughts on how I handled it? Gotta start somewhere and I can’t get any lower at this point.

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    • Anonymous says:

      I think it was good. You are going to get people saying you could of done this or that but in my mind no real mistakes were made.

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    • duderino says:

      This sounds like a classic friend zone situation to be honest. She just broke up and is looking for an emotional tampon to soak up her feelings. God knows I’ve been there. First,a critique. Unless she finds your exceptionally attractive, she will not volunteer to imply sex might be happening. (Which you appeared to be baiting with the question) It’s your job to misinterpret everything to be dirty and set the precedent for dirty talk.
      Ex. Her: Wish you were here tonight
      You: Geez, girls always want me for rebound sex. jk😉😉 At least buy
      me a drink first.
      Your job when you visit her is to get her in a situation where she can’t just cry about her ex, maybe a bar. The key is to make her see you as a sexual being. Grab her ass and don’t apologize at some point. Accuse her of flirting with you. Misinterpret everything as being about her being horny. It’s not guaranteed to work. However, the alternative, a night of emotional support, will kill any tingles altogether. She’ll “love you” but not in the way you want to be loved.

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    • Benson says:

      So girl I’ve liked for awhile gets out of a LTR, starts texting me. I’m out of town tonight (which she knows) and I get the following text: “Wish you were here tonight”.

      I wold have ignored that text. In all likelihood, every nice guy on her contacts list got a similar text. Not taking the bait has the potential to set you apart from the pack.

      Moving forward, I would put some distance between her and myself. Don’t initiate contact, wait for her to reach out to you, delay your responses, don’t hang out with her every chance you get etc. See how she reacts to that. You’ll know if she’s interested because she’ll stop sending gay, sappy texts like the ones she sent you.

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    • gunslingergregi says:

      if ya like talking to her nothing wrong with having a chick friend
      i go to mine for her to be my emotional tampon lol

      my chick called her one night when she was pissed at me and told her i wanted to fuck her thinking it was gonna be a major controversy
      my chick friend told her i know lol
      i have been tempted tohave her suck my dick but me and her boyfriend friends so nothing that would be acted on anyway
      hey she brings me joy
      and yea ask your chick friend to set you up he he he
      if she doesnt sshe wants your nut in her

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    • johncorvus says:

      The only way you could have MAYBE capitalized on this was to sexualize hard and immediately.

      Probably has been a lost cause, she has you in the beta supporter box

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    • walawala says:

      @Betamax Yes, friendzoned. The “What do you suppose we’d be doing?” passive.

      “Wish you were here tonight…”

      You: “Behave”

      Her; blah blah lah

      Riff off that.

      At some point with the “I love talking to you…” you’ve got to sexualize it or just be up front…

      “I’m a man and see you as a woman”….this is Krauser’s and I’ve used it so often because it works in shaking the girl into the state you want her in. if she wants a friend, say “I see you as a woman not a friend”.

      I’m sensing from your post a lack of confidence. You like that she contacted you because she got out of an LTR…so she’s lonely. You think this is an opportunity and don’t want to blow it. 1) rebound guy is ok if you know you’re the rebound guy and make her work 2) You don’t have enough experience to be able to be dismissive and use amused mastery on this girl.

      One of my FB’s texts me: “Let’s fuck” or sends a selfie…I respond with ” you’re going to have to wine and dine me first…” or something to just demonstrate I can take it or leave it…..

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      • Benson says:

        @wala

        The girl I number closed last week hasn’t responded to my invite for drinks. I was just going to drop it unless she reaches out. Should I try again in, say, a week or two?

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    • earl says:

      “Wish you were here tonight”

      I don’t know how many times I’ve heard something like this and took the bait. At first it sounded flattering to me and I made it known…but now I just respond…’yeah’.

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    • Captain Obvious says:

      SHE: “Wish you were here tonight” YOU: “Huh, I didn’t know that you were about to ovulate.” ||||| SHE: “Just relaxing and talking. I love to talk to you. :)” YOU: “Well we can do that with TXTs.”

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    • Putin says:

      “Wish you were here tonight”.
      My Response: So do I.

      “Just relaxing and talking. I love to talk to you. :)”
      My response: I know, I feel like we were meant for each other.

      *Apex Alpha.

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  26. Anonymous says:

    Field Report;

    Went to my Happy Place. Fishing was pretty slow for a while Was there a while and thought about leaving but decided to stay a little longer. Told a couple gals to watch my table as I went back in to go to the bathroom. Came back out and thanked them. We started a conversation. They were black sisters from Spain. A 5 and a 7-8 with a curvy brick house body. They said I reminded them of an actor in some movie. I went over to their table and gave them my number so they could text me the name of the movie when they remembered it. So this is when it gets good. As they are getting my number I look up at someone coming from the parking lot. Walking right at me is the 8. She is dressed to kill. I mean sick, sick, sick! A tight, little white dress. She is looking at me as I am looking at her. I put my hand out as the sisters are inputting my phone number. The 8 puts her hand out and we hold each others hand. This was no business hand shake mind you. She slowly released as she kept walking while gently sliding her hand against mine as she released. Seductress. Not a word was said. Not a word. So I have re-calibrated my game to incorporate some of my old stuff which was useful in building my first empire before getting married I walked. The sisters hamsters were getting on the treadmill with that whole scene with the 8. I get into my vehicle and see the 8 in the rear view mirror come out to the patio and set her stuff up at the table I was at. I drive away. 321…..

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  27. PA says:

    Three girls
    Die drei Mädchen
    Les trois filles
    As três meninas
    Три девушки
    Las tres chicas
    Trzy dziewczyny

    Sounds good in any language.

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  28. whorefinder says:

    My birthday cat game:

    *break down door*

    shout: “Happy birthday!”

    *kick cat against wall*

    commence with….c’mon, you know what comes next, y’all…

    [CH: lol. visions of kicked cats flying through the air are always funny.]

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  29. whorefinder says:

    Birthday cat needs rape game.

    just sayin’.

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  30. Hugh Miron says:

    Hardly game when the girl is super keen already

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  31. MF says:

    Any tips on how to get Heartiste-approved icons on your iPhone? (App idea for a loyal fan to make – you have a client already with me!):)

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  32. coolcono says:

    Nothing messes with them like confusion. Or ignoring them.

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  33. Lichthof says:

    ‘Good Evening Ernst Grafenberg’ (hand outstretched). I’ve introduced myself ten times now and only got one giggle so fat. Women don’t know shit.

    Also Herr Grafenberg has to be Alpha of the Month.

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  34. Putin says:

    Yesterday

    Went to my Happy Place. Fishing was pretty slow for a while Was there a while and thought about leaving but decided to stay a little longer. Told a couple gals to watch my table as I went back in to go to the bathroom. Came back out and thanked them. We started a conversation. They were black sisters from Spain. A 5 and a 7-8 with a curvy brick house body. They said I reminded them of an actor in some movie. I went over to their table and gave them my number so they could text me the name of the movie when they remembered it. So this is when it gets good. As they are getting my number I look up at someone coming from the parking lot. Walking right at me is the 8. She is dressed to kill. I mean sick, sick, sick! A tight, little white dress. She is looking at me as I am looking at her. I put my hand out as the sisters are inputting my phone number. The 8 puts her hand out and we hold each others hand. This was no business hand shake mind you. She slowly released as she kept walking while gently sliding her hand against mine as she released. Seductress. Not a word was said. Not a word. So I have re-calibrated my game to incorporate some of my old stuff which was useful in building my first empire before getting married I walked. The sisters hamsters were getting on the treadmill with that whole scene with the 8. I get into my vehicle and see the 8 in the rear view mirror come out to the patio and set her stuff up at the table I was at. I drive away. 321…..

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  35. Laguna Beach Fogey says:

    OT: Hey Heartiste, I wonder if Gavin McInnes reads your blog?

    Watch him take down a feminist bitch:


    .

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  36. OT: Hey Vox, I wonder if Gavin McInnes reads your blog?

    Watch him take down a feminist biatch:

    You should do a post on this.

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    • Too easy!

      She quotes him as saying that women are emotional and then later says, “I’m literally shaking.”

      Also, what is it with women and adverbs? They seriously love that shit!

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    • deleted says:

      I am about 99% certain that Gavin reads the Chateau. So he will love you posting him here.

      He’s adopted the “many a truth said in jest” approach. And currently I am digging it, because it’s causing the Fems to go apoplectic. Sure, he frequently ends up looking a little silly, but so far, he’s in the “win” column, in my book. He’s making Hannity actually watchable.

      Pretty lies perish. Do it. Make it happen.

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  37. Anonymous says:

    Have the CH proprietors seen Ex Machina yet? Solid flick with good atmosphere. Interesting story, and a narrow-shouldered noodle-armed beta being exploited by a woman he knows isn’t real. Poor betas even get taken advantage of by machines.

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  38. BetaMax says:

    Wow, thanks all for the great feedback. Looks like I have a long road ahead if I am ever going to learn to drop the beta crap. Honestly, as mentioned by at least one commenter, I do have serious problems with confidence. In some ways it doesn’t make sense – I’m not a horrible looking guy, in decent shape, and have a very respectable career. But it is what it is, and I’m going to have to do something about it.

    So it seems there are several great things I can take from the comments I received: 1) I need to stop being passive in the way I talk to women. 2) I need to recognize my value and be ready and willing to sexualize the situation instead of allowing myself to be used as an emotional tampon. 3) If I’m still getting any sense of being friend-zoned, I probably need to break out the “I’m a man, you’re a woman….” gun. It might lead to something or it might chase the girl away. Either way is fine, as they both beat being some girl’s beta schlub. 4) I need to be careful about what texts I respond to in the first place. 5) If she isn’t interested, I may as well try to get her to set me up with one of her hot friends.

    One question though – in terms of the “I’m a man, you’re a woman” spiel – what’s the best way/ context to bring this up? Obviously I’m not going to respond to a “hey how r u?” text with this. Is it something to be used in the event of further rejection only? Or is it something I can readily broach with her since she’s already given me the “We’d just be relaxing and talking” crap?

    Geez I’m pathetic. Ha.

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    • Sentient says:

      “Looks like I have a long road ahead if I am ever going to learn to drop the beta crap”

      You can start by changing your handle… you are what you think you are.

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    • Culum Struan says:

      @BetaMax – good advice here and good first steps in your second post. We’ve all been there believe me, but it does get better. The only other thing I’ll add is that this particular girl is probably a lost cause – but you can certainly start alpha-ing up with other girls as long as you practice talking to them.

      @Benson – Ignore, wait a couple of weeks, re-engage with new funny text. Don’t waste your time if she keeps ignoring more than a couple texts. Read Ripp’s and YaReally’s posts on text game – loads of stuff (particularly some good stuff from YaReally to Reco last year)

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      • Benson says:

        Benson – Ignore, wait a couple of weeks, re-engage with new funny text. Don’t waste your time if she keeps ignoring more than a couple texts.

        I’m approaching it correctly, then. But I wonder why her interest dropped so much. She was visibly excited when I asked for her number, then she went cold almost immediately. We’ve exchanged maybe six texts total.

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    • duderino says:

      I feel like you might get psyched out and have poor delivery if you have to give an actual speech. Your probably in a box of communication with her where only certain safe subjects feel acceptable. Ex- Work, TV, Her x, etc. You have to push the envelope to broaden what she’ll talk about and do with you. For example, tell her about a girl you’ve dated or had sex with. Maybe exaggerate a little. Tell her she’s got a nice ass. Look for excuses to put your hands on her. Bring some alcohol into the situation. Don’t leave much ambiguity about your intent. Now, she might slap your hand and tell you something to the effect of not being ready. It’s definitely less painful that LJBFs in my opinion. And you can recover from going to far, but not going far enough is a death sentence. The only other way is to go cold and start seeing other girls and have her find about it. Either way, you can’t be afraid of being judged as a “perv” At this point, you want her to think you have some cad in you.

      I used to worry about what was alpha and what was beta. There’s another game concept that’s equally important- abundance. It’s the idea that girls are mostly interchangeable play things, and that if you piss one off you’ll just find another. Once you’ve achieved abundance, you’ll naturally act more Alpha without micromanaging your texts. Yeah, it’s philosophy, but you also have to be sociable and get a lot of girls in your life. If your sexually inexperienced, bang a girl that’s a little below your usual standards and cut her off. Once you’ve seen a girl play the role of the submissive try hard, it’ll correct a lot of behavior. You’ll “feel” abundance rather than thinking abstractly about it.

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    • Benson says:

      One question though – in terms of the “I’m a man, you’re a woman” spiel – what’s the best way/ context to bring this up?

      You communicate that frame without actually saying the words, by ignoring her silly attempts to pry validation out of you, for example. If you act like a confident, sexy jerkboy, she (and other women) will start treating you like one. It’s a hard lesson to learn, even after you start seeing results, but it’s true.

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