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The Great (Wo)Men On Marriage

Courtesy of commenter mendozatorres, a quote from Mary Haweis, authoress, who sounds spookily prescient about our current state of marriage as she reminds her readers that marriage sans concessions is a boon for women and a raw deal for men.

Alas, when people complain of men not marrying (even they who are able), they forget how little women offer in exchange for all they get by marriage. Girls are so seldom taught to be of any use whatever to a man that I am only astonished at the numbers of men who do marry! [ed: we all are, mary.] Many girls do not even try to be agreeable to look at, much less to live with. They forget how numerous they are, and the small absolute need men have of wives; but, nevertheless, men do still marry, and would oftener marry could they find mates – women who are either helpful to them, or amusing, or pleasing to their eye.

–The Art of Beauty by Mary Eliza Haweis, published in 1878.

I wonder what the prime fertility years sex ratio was in 1878?

Mary Eliza Haweis is a friend of the Chateau. She understands — more nobly, she admits — that men must necessarily sacrifice to marry, while women enjoy lavish gains and the fulfillment of lifelong dreams when they marry. This inherent marital risk bias favoring women implies that the institution should be structured to supply men with some up front guarantees of return on investment or indulgences to fulfill, at least occasionally, their own male-specific romantic prerogatives.

Not surprisingly, Mary looks to be a fairly attractive woman by the standards of her time. It’s not quite an ironclad rule, but the way to bet is that attractive women are likelier than homely women to have familiarity with the basic truths governing the behavior of the sexes. After all, what kind of woman will be more in need of soothing platitudes to make it through the day without pondering the existential release of the razor blade poised lengthwise?

172 Responses to “The Great (Wo)Men On Marriage”

  1. Flip says:

    There used to be dowries for a reason.

  2. How does it go: “I can’t have sex with your personality
    And I can’t put my penis in your college degree
    And I can’t shove my fist in your childhood dreams”

  3. Tilikum says:

    My girl(s) don’t really fuss about other women but they do, interestingly, share the same lament: They can’t compete for time with my other interests.

    I tell em Spring is here, the Testosterone is flowing, and to just enjoy it while it lasts.

  4. Reminds me of the movie American Psycho (shit movie imo but anyway) where Patrick Bateman, the protagonist, gets a wry satisfaction out of calling his secretary out on her absurd, football pad-like mansuits, and she eagerly responds with a good natured submissiveness and willingness to do his bidding. Interestingly enough, the director was a woman.

    • SuperFucker! says:

      The precursor to fifty shades…

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        Fuckin eh. Fifty Shades was like a cry for help on a national, nay global, scale.

      • nip hound says:

        no. just a reminder. women like it rough from a man in command.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        No, cry for help. We’re about 30 years past “reminder”

      • Greg Eliot says:

        no. just a reminder. women like it rough from a man in command.

        True… so long as it’s on their terms… and timetable.

      • nip hound says:

        “so long as it’s on their terms… and timetable.”

        terms and timetable… aka frame. letting her set frame is a huge mistake for so many reasons already outlined by CH.

        set the parameters of your reality and then bring her in. women love to be dragged around. they are so pliable that getting them into your state shouldn’t take much effort at all as long as you don’t bend.

        then bring the pain.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        I’ll just say we travel in different circles and leave it at that.

        Then again, we can always play the Cyberian AMOG game and you can claim alphaosity over my mere omicronyism.

      • The Spirit Within says:

        @nip hound

        So true. Once you get them feeding out of your hand, it’s ridiculously easy. Just keep that frame.

        One recent bang keeps asking to spend time with me, so I finally replied to her text message yesterday like, “Sure, come over Monday night, I’m making a big frittata.” Now she’s ecstatic, asking me what she should wear, oh my God, she *loves* homemade frittata, swoon swoon swoon. I make one every week, so to me it’s nothing. To her, it’s an invitation to a new world where she has no power.

        This is true in any field in which you excel, as long as it’s physical and not cerebral. Frame is everything.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        For you Lochinvars of the boudoir with short attention span…

        The topic at hand was not making dinner for a gal or common sense game 101…

        … the issue was ROUGH treatment from a COMMANDING man.

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

      • The Spirit Within says:

        I was expanding the topic.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Yeah, like Wrong-Way Goldfarb expanded the flight zone.

      • The Spirit Within says:

        You could not possibly be any older or crankier.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Then stay off my lawn.

        You fairy.

    • If you can endure the meandering chick flick tedium, Dirty Dancing is a goddam game bootcamp: massive preselection, negs, push-pull, AMOG contrasted with rich try-hard beta, jerkboy charisma, rescuing a chick from her boring life, vulnerability game, it’s all there.

  5. SuperFucker! says:

    It’s a whole different context nowadays. It’s like comparing apple-shaped asses to orange-shaped ones. If Mary could see the unbridled freedom that women have to indulge themselves nowadays she might jump on the alphafux-betabux slutwagon herself.

    • lzozozozoozlz

      lzozllzozozozoz

      “da professional womenz ode”

      alpha fucks and beta bucks
      dat is how we roll
      da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
      and in our anuthes it doth deosul
      alpha fucks and beta bucks
      it is da way of da fed
      to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
      cuckold dose who pay for our bread
      beta bucks and alpha fucks
      it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
      da assetts from betas we plucks
      after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
      lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz
      cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
      datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
      as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
      and say da great books for menz was all fools.
      yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
      dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats

      zlzlzzozozozo

      • today da professor GBFM would like to lecture on INFLATION lzozozz

        once upon a times $50,000 would buy yo u a nice house a nice wife two cars and three kids who you could play baseballs with and raise to be nice girls and nice boyz zlzoozoz

        today $1,000,000 will buys you an cassocked assockccoked, embittered, doused, deosueld and bernanenkied butthexed dfeminsistasz who will take %70 70% of oyiry assets in divroce court as ada dirvroce industries forces men to pay for past use oif a pussiezzes which is why da enoeteconths hate prostiutuitions as it does not make man pay for past pussy uyse but only present pussy use and da neococonths hatchet comepetitzzinonszz lzozlzlzoz, and dat $1,000,000 will be used to pay your wives dirvocre attorney and fund her future as socking sesisosns dat day got her hooked on in college during da prrima noctae asosckingszz seeisosnsnsns lzozlzozozo and den da $1,000,000 will be whittled down furthers buying presscirtption drugs for your dumbed down drugged up kids who you never get to see because ebernenekifiers seized den as poker chips in da fed’s wealth transfer games zlzozlzl

        so now you see da definition of butthex, wealth-rttrannsfeeringz INFLATION lzozozlzlzoz

        ust remember dat many are not ready to be unbuttblugged from da matrix lzlzzllzzlzl

        so many have been butthexed for so long dat 2 try 2 take da life-sucking cockas outta der anuth will result in dem h8ing h8ing h8ing u and defending da tucker max rheyems with bgoldman sax buttehxtteetrszz zlzozlzzooz

        like next tim eu are out with a chick, ask her,

        “so how does it feel 2 be da first generation of oemenz buttcocked and deosuled by da federlr reseverssZZ? lzozozozozozz”

        lzlzozozozzoz

        dis is why it is better to just hooks ups with da owmenz da desouled womenz rather than try to talk or reasons or logic with demzz lzozozlz

        zlzoozzozozo

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        Simply sublime!

      • SuperFucker! says:

        Lmfao

      • Captain Obvious says:

        GBFM, Why Kay Dubya are gloating about their bankrolling of Marc0 R00bi0 and shamnesty: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3280525/posts

      • Captain Obvious says:

        And not only did Ted Cr00z’s wife work at G0ldman S@chs, but Ted Cr00z’s father supported F!del C@stro: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3280763/posts

      • Captain Obvious says:

        I’m wondering whether both Marc0 R00bi0 and Ted Cr00z have significant Seph@rdic blood in them, left over from when Cuba was the halfway point between the Seph@rdic stronghold of Holland and the Seph@rdic stronghold of Brazil, and the Seph@rdim were running the ch@ttel sl@very racket throughout the Atlantic Ocean.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        And not only did Ted Cr00z’s wife work at G0ldman S@chs, but Ted Cr00z’s father supported F!del C@stro:

        It’s usually referred to as “working both sides of the street”.

        That way, when the bus jumps the curb and takes out one side, you still got control of the avenue.

    • Anonymous says:

      If we removed the restraints on male behavior to the same degree we’ve done for female behavior, men would be allowed to rape, pillage, and murder their way from one coast to the other.

      • PA says:

        They’d be checked by other men.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        PA’s hit upon the sublime (mentality) difference between the sexes.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        Hah, well they certainly wouldn’t be checked by you PA!

      • FredMertz says:

        Don’t you mean WHITE male behavior? Seems blacks have already been freed!

      • PA says:

        Don’t be mad I ruined your debut at this here table with adult men, DL. You failed to mind your manners in our first convo so I had to tool you a bit. Carry on.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        But the fundamental question, surveys say, is why his ugly momma named her spawn PA?

        Is it…

        a)Paid Agent ?
        b)Puckered Anus ?
        c)Peenus Attacker ???
        d) Perhaps Awanker??!!

        The public has a right to know.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        You ruined nothing, Phallus Actuator. I think you’re a paid troll put here to derail the conversation.

      • PA says:

        Daniel, I am now addressing you in a civil and appropriately respectful manner because it appears that ideologically we’re firing in the same direction.

        First, if you want to know what PA means, ask CH or anyone else who’s read my contributions here since 2007.

        Secondly, accept being corrected along with my gesture of peace and move on. Don’t sulk like a grudge-holding bitch. I’ve seen enough to get a read on you – flame warring is not your thing. Your style is plodding and unimaginative.

        Thirdly, you can certainly choose to continue with your dancing hippo act. Depending on my inclination, I will either ignore you, or I will destroy your rep and mojo here. I’ve done it to more than one belligerent commenter before.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        Fair enough. You be respectful of me and you’ll get back the same. And I hold no grudges, its the f@&$ing internet. Flame warring is definitely not my thing, I have better things to do, I simply appreciate a forum to converse with like minded folks; an impossibility in todays stifled PC atmosphere. If I offended you by speaking coarsely in the other thread, it wasn’t intentional. So as far as that goes, you stay out of my hair and ill stay out of yours.

      • Anonymous says:

        @FredMertz Good point. Victor Davis Hanson’s “Carnage and Culture” is a good description of what happens when the Saxon begins to hate.

      • Carlos Danger says:

        Dat you Whisky Foxtrot!?

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Plainview, you’re a bit out of line… there is a certain seniority factor when entering a group, and you have to at least respect that.

        Lighten up, at least, with the homoerotic barbs… there’s enough South Park snarkers doing that at the chateau already.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        No homoerosion here… as far as the seniority part, the screen name “PA” doesn’t exactly jump off the screen, so youll have to forgive my impudence. I was simply paying back in kind

      • Greg Eliot says:

        You impertinent jackanapes! 😉

  6. PJay says:

    The tarp is being lifted
    Off the dead dog out back
    We stare and try to look away
    As the maggots squirm and writhe….

  7. James blonde says:

    what color was this woman?

  8. Dated and unrelated, but…

  9. What timing! Two co-workers just returned from their honeymoon and I overheard one guy asking the male co-worker if they’d be referring to him as “Mr. Wife’s Last Name?” The co-worker didn’t sound too pleased.

  10. Just goes to show that there never was a golden past of rainbows and unicorns.

    Also, if women were still prone to acting like slobs and cunts back then with all the social rules, think of how ridiculous it is to expect them to do it when we have given them a social pass to plump up and be bitchy. Add to the lack of hard tangible incentives for attractive behavior and you have created a biological leviathan of blubber, androgyny and princess syndrome.

    As noted Haweis is attractive which means high value. High value people also seem to accept world truths better not because of innate logic or high morality but because it’s not hard to acknowledge a world view when you’re on the top of it and have some control of your destiny. Low value people can and will lie simply to gain position if you let them get away with it.

    That’s why the high value must set the standards even if the low doesn’t like it. This is because of necessity. People in general are simply selfish. Real world beliefs benefits to the people able to exploit it and thus they will live more towards truth. Low value will seek out fairy tales to create a new fantasy reality where they are the new high value.

    When society listens, we are all fucked. The universe only cares about math equations and nothing else. Doesn’t care about how a 300 pound plumper who wants to be considered equal to a slim hottie. You upend society based on their delusions and nature gets it’s big black 10 inch dildo ready and pours on the lube.

    • blart says:

      “Also, if women were still prone to acting like slobs and cunts back then with all the social rules, think of how ridiculous it is to expect them to do it when we have given them a social pass to plump up and be bitchy. Add to the lack of hard tangible incentives for attractive behavior and you have created a biological leviathan of blubber, androgyny and princess syndrome.”

      a lot of truth to that.
      sweet, feminine women are the exception to the rule these days and it’s not getting better any time soon. the women raising daughters now are teaching them to be even more vulgar and masculine than they are.

      still regret breaking it off with one girl from my past. sweetest thing i’d ever met. i was in another relationship and foolishly stayed in that dead end relationship because i felt obligated instead of just ending it and settling down with her.

      she’s still sweet and feminine as ever and has raised a couple of daughters who are just like her. the other chick is still bitter and unhappy and i didn’t stay with her, just like i knew it wouldn’t.

      all you young guys out there need to remember that yes, there are always other girls out there so you don’t want to get hung up on someone who is wrong for you and then stay with them because you are afraid you won’t find anyone else. that’s obvious.

      but you also have to know that the sweet feminine girls aren’t a dime a dozen anymore. if you find one, you gotta lock her down. because, odds are, you might not find one again. sure, you can teach and game and try to reform a girl who is less than perfect to some extent but it isn’t the same as finding one who is already sweet and feminine naturally right down to her core. if any of you have met one like that, you know what i’m talking about.

      • Sounds like someone has oneitis.

      • blart says:

        call it what you want. the reality is, some girls are easier to get along with than others and i’m lazy. if a girl is going to be sweet, compliant, and feminine with very little effort on my part. i’m going to prefer that. obviously.

        there is something to be said for being a little choosy. pays off later on down the road. believe me.

      • L-i-c-h-t-h-o-f says:

        Sweet feminine girls are everywhere unfortunately outside of the West

      • blart says:

        @ L-i-c-h-t-h-o-f
        Sweet feminine girls are everywhere unfortunately outside of the West

        no doubt that’s true but many of us have ties with family and friends. careers that we’ve established here. and we want to live in the states. bad here in lots of ways perhaps but it’s still a better quality of life than most anywhere else. so from that frame of reference, the sweet feminine girls are less common for us. that’s just how it is.

      • L-i-c-h-t-h-o-f says:

        Vietnamese women I have met in the US seem to retain their femininity and treat men like Kings- same goes for Thai and Tawainese. African women too.
        And most East European.
        Some white women too but blondes are mostly snobby self-entitled cunts who are pedestalized by the majority Beta hence their egos.

        End girl competitive sports at school, end cheerleading and focus more on home economics and the West could be saved.

      • blart says:

        “And most East European.
        Some white women too but blondes are mostly snobby self-entitled cunts who are pedestalized by the majority Beta hence their egos.

        End girl competitive sports at school, end cheerleading and focus more on home economics and the West could be saved.”

        agreed. my main girl is of eastern european decent. her parents were born and raised here so she’s not an immigrant but was still raised with old fashioned eastern european values. good personality compared to a lot of other women out there.

        also agree on the sports and cheerleading. cheerleaders are the worst attention whores of them all and the girls that are heavy duty into competitive sports are becoming just as bad.

        they aren’t in it for the physical activity and enjoyment of the sport. they do it for the attention that they get. almost all of those girls end up in sororities too. nothing worse than an ex-sorority girl if you’re looking for someone stable with the potential for long term commitment and a peaceful life.

      • K says:

        “they aren’t in it for the physical activity and enjoyment of the sport. they do it for the attention that they get.”

        yep. and it makes them more masculine and aggressive than they would be otherwise.

      • PA says:

        Sailer wrote a convincing post several years ago how the real purpose of girl high school sports is to keep girls supervised between 2 and 5 pm, to keep them from getting knocked up by the kind of boy who gets teen panties all hot.

      • Regular John says:

        “End girl competitive sports at school…”

        Sweet, feminine fatties it is! Unintended consequences are a b*@ch.

      • Sentient says:

        I’m all for keeping girls volleyball…

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        The Vietnamese/African thing is just a case of lower value. Of the list of losers in the globalized game of musical chairs, they top the list. And Eastern European women are just entrepreneurs for the most part who have assessed the demand of Western men with money for a feminine women and made themselves the supply. They’ll divorce your ass quick once they get the chance, though, just look at poor Mel Gibson.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        That pic is just… beautiful

      • Carlos Danger says:

        All the women I used to regret are just bullets now, that I dodged, since I met my wife.

    • Signor Farfalla says:

      “End girl competitive sports at school…”

      Sweet, feminine fatties it is! Unintended consequences are a b*@ch.

      —Because the current system of high school sports is doing such a good job of keeping the women thin….As lean and numerous as plains filled with antelopes, are current American women. Thanks high school tennis!

      • FuriousFerret says:

        Physical activity doesn’t really keep weight down. Stuffing ones face with sugar laden food is the major culprit.

        Good genetics helps a person resist the urge to overeat even when putting junk food in their bodies. That same genetics makes one better at sports. Correlation is not causation.

      • Regular John says:

        And you’re solution is *less* physical activity?

      • Signor Farfalla says:

        My solution is passport.

      • K says:

        “Physical activity doesn’t really keep weight down. Stuffing ones face with sugar laden food is the major culprit.”

        there is some truth to this. throughout time women have never been the most athletic or active of people. they would get some exercise from doing housework, cooking, carrying babies around, walking to the market to get food, etc. but they weren’t doing hard core physical activity. they just ate less and maintained their weight that way.

        and to be honest, i’m just not into chicks who work out a lot. i don’t like their personalities and i don’t like their bodies. i know that’s not the norm because most young guys these days have grown up seeing women who work out as their only choice if they want a thin woman. that’s what they are used to.

        but i am just not attracted to like a hard body on a girl. i like them thin of course. but also soft in all the right places. the way they are meant to be.

        besides that, i do think girls who work out regularly mess up their hormone levels and become more masculine. even when they aren’t using a lot of weight. it’s not natural or feminine and it changes the natural softness and femininity of their bodies.

        walking or yoga is about all they need or should do if they really insist on working out if they want to keep their girlish softness and femininity but eating less crap is all most women really have to do.

      • Regular John says:

        “My solution is passport.”
        Good for you, Jack. Don’t forget your internet based business.

        “… but eating less crap is all most women really have to do.”
        Inertia being what it is, most people won’t be able to manage that in the absence of some sort of regular phsical activity; in the land of milk and honey sloth begets gluttony more often than not. Every obese person you meet is on a “diet.”

  11. tteclod says:

    Regarding the sex ratio: I did a little data analysis for sex ratio for ages 20-24, 25-29, and 30-34, for 2013 census estimates.

    If we go by sex ratio alone, your best chances for young female flesh may be found in [feigned shock] New York City, with ratios 1.43, 1.24, and 1.00, respectively, for the referenced ages. Next stop is Washington, DC: 1.28, 1.16, 0.99. Supply in both locations numbers in the tens of thousands (almost 100,00 20-30 in NYC).

    A careful analysis reveals other pockets of good ratios in flyover country.

    Perhaps Roosh should be stateside.

    • FredMertz says:

      Oddly,Roosh just wrote a nice essay on visiting NYC and being pleasantly surprised by the quality of the poon in that fetid hellhole.

      • SC says:

        He shouldn’t be surprised. A lot of “red pill” men mistakenly think that the fattest, ugliest women are the overeducated White women who live in elite cities. They couldn’t be further than the truth. The biggest women are usually Black or prole White. They can be found in the largest concentrations in the South and in the Midwest.

      • Sentient says:

        Good grief… just read that post by Roosh. He is shockingly naive for someone who has traveled so much. He should spend more time in the US and work on his game.

      • SC says:

        @Sentient

        Don’t be surprised by Roosh’s naivete. A lot of the PUA/red pill men seem to that the opposite of whatever the leftists are saying is true. Just because the leftists are wrong does not mean that the opposite is correct. Most of the time the truth is somewhere in the middle.

  12. Anonymous says:

    If Mary could see the unbridled freedom that women have to indulge themselves nowadays she might jump on the alphafux-betabux slutwagon herself.

    Which of our resident schlomo-trolls this one be?

    Listen schlomo, if more of ya’ll would pay more attention to yer yentas, and less time trolling shegetz blogs, more of yer yentas would end up as Balebuste, and in due time as bubele, instead of meshugenah spinsters.

    oink

    • SuperFucker! says:

      Not a troll moron. You missed the point.

      • Anonymous says:

        Other than your schlocky attempt at character assassination by means of slippery-slope simile, what else have I missed, shmuck?

        – so actually AJALT; at least those posting here; I is dissapoint.
        🙁

        oink

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Good catch, Anonymous…

      I’d give him the benefit of the doubt as being naively unaware how of knee-jerk negativity and Cathedral brainwashing have permeated the average subconscious of even the red-pillers, such as he imagines himself to be.

      Keep the wake-up calls coming… you’re a worthy Sergeant-At-Arms to the chateau.

      • SC says:

        So what you’re really saying is that anyone who is even slightly less extreme right wing in their views must be somehow a Jewish gay lesbian feminist socialist Democrat.

        THIS is why I hate the MRAs/PUAs/”red-pillers”/WNs as much as I hate the feminists and socialists. On both sides they demand total orthodoxy. I refuse to bow down to liberal indoctrination. I also refuse to bow down to fascist indoctrination.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Why is everything so binary with you guys? I just said I’d give him the benefit of the doubt as to being naive… there’s an awful lot of so-called red pillers who nonetheless revert to negativity and Cathedral-thought as knee-jerk reactions, and in their slight defense, what can one expect when the past two or three generations have been inundated with it from the crib?

        My point is, it’s good to point it out and slap it down, even in the least little instances, so that the would-be wise would be made wiser.

        Desperate times call for desperate measures… and whoever is not with us is against us.

        I notice you yourself fall into the very trap with your attempt at shaming language with dismissing this all as “fascist indoctrination”… which sounds like nothing so much as something the usual suspect enemy would say.

        So, if you ain’t one of them ducks, at least stop quacking like one… or don’t get mad for folks thinking you’re duck-like.

      • SC says:

        @Greg Eliot

        “whoever is not with us is against us.”

        Seriously?? That is EXACTLY something the leftists/feminists would say.

        If you haven’t noticed, my hatred for the extreme left is equal in its intensity as my hatred for the extreme right. I have vowed to never do anything nice for feminists and fat activists.

      • The Spirit Within says:

        SC

        Don’t even bother. Greg Eliot, Captain Obvious, etc are the living definition of radicalized true believers. In their minds, they — and only they — carry truth.

        Me: I’m still seeking truth. They believe to hold it.

      • PA says:

        Truth is almost never “in the middle.”

      • PA says:

        Longer comment eaten. Only a history-illiterate would refer to anti-equalist dissent as fascism.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        StraponWithin, I don’t recall asking you a goddamn thing.

        SC, the ol’ “he who is not with us is against us” is a take on Scriptural verse from the days of early Christianity… there’s even a tempered version that says “whoever is not against us is with us”.

        Sigh… too many homages fall flat on youse guys. 😡

  13. jrack says:

    “They forget how numerous they are, and the small absolute need men have of wives.”

    They fixed that by passing the Mann Act.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Mary’s my type of gal … a beta providers wet dream.

    Combining a widespread interest in art, fashion, history, and literature – and to supplement the household income – she wrote Chaucer for Children, The Art of Beauty, The Art of Dress, The Art of Decoration, and The Art of Housekeeping.

    Imagine coming home to beautiful, well dressed woman – reading Chaucer to your little one – in a neat nicely appointed parlor. Just put your slippers on, sit back and light a pipe – and soak in that invigorating domestic energy.

    Flash to today, where your frazzled careerist wife comes home late bemoaning her latest inter-office indignity – sullen screen-raised kids honking like geese for their TV dinners – four bare walls in contractor hide-all paint – piles of laundry to the rafters – day after day after day until the EMTs press the defibrillator to your chest.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Great analogy, and would be most droll, were it not so true in all-too-many cases.

      Still, a solemn tip o’ the ten gallon to ya!

    • mendozatorres says:

      “Imagine coming home to beautiful, well dressed woman – reading Chaucer to your little one – in a neat nicely appointed parlor. Just put your slippers on, sit back and light a pipe – and soak in that invigorating domestic energy.”

      I guess this vision is to men what a Louis Vitton purse is to a woman.

    • Daniel Plainview says:

      And whenever folks on the right bring up the fact that these simple pleasures used to be a given for any man with the guts to earn them, the pinkos always bring up irrelevant shite like polio and coal mines as why the good old days werent so good. I would slave my guts out in the nastiest, filthiest coal mine on earth if I knew I was coming home to something like you just described so perfectly. And I suspect most normal men would agree.

    • Philomathean says:

      A sublime picture you crafted then destroyed before mine tired eyes.

  15. anon says:

    Any Idea where in the book this is? I have a link to the book and I’d like to find what else Mary had to say on this subject.

    https://archive.org/details/artofbeauty00hawe

  16. Anonymous says:

    Dowries used to be paid because a woman is dead Weight. She is called the ball and chain for a reason. . All they offer is pussy.

    • Coldwarvet says:

      Pussy, progeny, and penury. The poon rapidly becomes “no bargain;” the grubs, ofttimes, a disappointment; and the golden chains advance with the inexorability of a slow-motion train wreck.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        A bit nihilistic, but at least it was done poetically.

        I won’t tip the cap on it, but I will touch the brim.

  17. stained class says:

    the ex i mentioned, ehh, about a month ago, texted me after i complied with you guys, and didn’t text her. she initiated 2 hook ups in 3 days before i left for police academy, which is an hour away from her place. when we parted she told me to text her – i said no ____, you text me..

    that was april 5. i left for the academy april 7.

    nothing from her.

    not sure how to go about this – my gut says shes waiting for me to text her to “even the playing fields” with her last 2 invitations.. but that may be my ego saying that.

    it keeps me up at night – being confined to base without a chance for pussy till May is melting my mind.

    • Putin says:

      Stay strong my friend.

    • Sentient says:

      See? It’s working. Just stay strong. let her chase you. I’m sure there are some girls on base. Focus on others.

      PS – that’s not your ego talking, it’s neediness… Purge it. Self validate. This is what working on inner game is all about. Watch this and learn:

      and PPS – all the negatives of this girl as previously stated remain. You should really just move on.

    • Benson says:

      Are you still trying to get your ex back, stained glass, or are you okay with just banging her?

      • Benson says:

        @staind glass
        “i’m moving on.. however, she’s delayed my butthurt grieving process for months.. with no options, yet – it’s a soul sucker.”
        There’s options everywhere. But I get it: you bond with a girl and then she drops you overnight. It takes time to move on; I’m still struggling with it, too.

    • Philomathean says:

      Be a fucking man for Christ’s sake and control your puerile emoting.. Whining about not getting poosy for a month roughly translates in the ears of men to: “My vagina, it hurts!”.

      Sack up.

      • stained class says:

        @ Sentient – ‘preciate that. it’s military police academy.. no michael winslow or hot blondes here.. i’ll continue NC.

        @ Benson – if she reaches out again, i’m going to lay it down to her in way that says she’s not going to text me whenever she feels like it – usually
        lonely, depressed, or meloncholy..

        i’d rather not out and out tell her with you or without you, i’m moving on.. however, she’s delayed my butthurt grieving process for months.. with no options, yet – it’s a soul sucker.

    • been busy babe boo says:

      “when we parted she told me to text her – i said no ____, you text me..”

      Better play would have been to say “sure” but then game as normal and still let her chase.

      I’ve learnt that women (and most people in general) will abuse power if you give it to them. It is essentially what being needy is. So when you didn’t text her she’d thought you were just doing you and she was not at the forefront of your mind so naturally she chased you. But when you say “no you text me” she could easily think you are eagerly waiting for her text and even all that time when you ignored her you were just waiting. She has the power to ‘make your day’ with a text. Similar to when Benson joked “I’ll cry if you don’t text me” to some nurse (I believe my reply to that was probably swallowed by the mods. Short: She has to know from your vibe you are clearly goofing around and your life is awesome regardless of if she contacts you).

      Anyway since she’s an ex the play now is to still let her chase. Don’t stress though she could have shit going on in her life or even be 6 feet under. Fuck knows. Get back in the field. The field will teach you everything.

      • Benson says:

        “Better play would have been to say “sure” but then game as normal and still let her chase.”

        That’s just terrific.

      • stained class says:

        @Benson.. “that’s just terrific.”

        in regards to?

      • stained class says:

        would a text like this work with ehat i have..

        ex: I forgot, are we fighting and most importantly am I winning? 

        or: i just met your twin

        etc..

           

  18. Putin says:

    You can tell these women are more “Ray Peat” diet compared to the PUFA diet of America.

  19. Putin says:

    One of the most Red Pill movies ever and a personal favorite.

    • Signor Farfalla says:

      First world problems.
      Oneitis with Bonham-Carter’s character
      The soap thing was stupid (Oh, did Palahniuk do an afternoon of research, by chance?)
      Weak characters pushed into homo-erotic, near BDSM fight tingles.

      Just go the Phillipines instead.

      I hated that movie

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Oft-said at the chateau, many venerate that movie because they’re so starved for anything that resembles manly anti-establishment agitprop that they’ll forgive much.

      In the case of Fight Club, there’s a lot to like, and a lot to forgive… the constant subtle and not-so-subtle homoerotic undertones and nihilism, to name two issues.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        And might I add, where it NOT for the homoerotic undertones, the film probably wouldn’t have been green-lighted, or at least touted, as much as it was.

  20. Benson says:

    Some douche bag smashed into my car over the weekend. The good news, though, is that the adjuster from my insurance company is hot. I flirted with her a bit today while she gave me an estimate. Any suggestions on how to ask her out? I thought about calling her up and inviting her to this new bar in town, once our business is finished.

    • > “inviting her”. Betas ask. Alphas issue orders. “I’ll be at XXX at 9PM. Don’t be late or else I’ll start hitting on your replacement.”

      • Benson says:

        I don’t ask, I invite. “Hey, I’m checking out this new bar in town on Friday at 7. Come have a drink.” The whole “Be here at 7 and ready for mad fucks” uber alpha approach always backfired on me, probably because it’s inconsistent with my relaxed demeanor. Not every problem is a nail, Mr. Hammer man.

        My main concern was going from teasing her to asking her out with no opportunity to build rapport. I’m going to try anyway, but a positive outcome would be nice.

      • Captain Obvious says:

        > “a positive outcome would be nice” == You still care. Stop caring. You are the prize, not she. And if she’s too stupid to realize it, then that’s her loss. You haven’t reached Dark Triad Alpha Nirvana until you just don’t give a d@mn about anything.

      • Benson says:

        “You haven’t reached Dark Triad Alpha Nirvana until you just don’t give a d@mn about anything.”

        That’s because I’m not a sociopath. Everyone cares. The trick is moving forward despite your emotions.

      • The Spirit Within says:

        Benson, Captain Obvious doesn’t do any of what he’s describing. He’s just projecting his fantasy of what he thinks *all alphas* do. I’ve got three women in my rotation right now and each one appreciates politeness. With strength behind it, of course.

        You’re doing it right.

      • Benson says:

        Any suggestions on how I might build some rapport with adjuster girl before I invite her out?

      • This is a scimitar when a scalpel would have done just fine.

      • The Spirit Within says:

        Tell her you’ll pick her up in the shitty Toyota rental (that her insurance company provided for you) so that she can see exactly the type of crap her company hands out to its wounded, stricken clients. Neg her relentlessly. Then, next day, tell her that you returned the Toyota because it was killing your vibe and that she has to pick you up instead. You’ll know it’s working if she’s laughing, and if she pays for your drink too.

        You need charisma for all this, of course.

  21. LOOOOOOOOOOOOL says:

    I wonder how the average middle class woman looked, that she offers this scathing criticism. Women are just awful all the time.

  22. Mr Meaner says:

    Anybody ever noticed game works unbelievably well on feminists?

  23. Rum says:

    Smack my Bitch Up — Progidy , The Video , Timeless; For the Ages

    World Hovercraft Championship racing — The most dangerous motorsport on planet earth. Class winners can be certain of the lady-luv in high-flowing, viscous abundance.

  24. earl says:

    ‘Many girls do not even try to be agreeable to look at, much less to live with.’

    In other words…girls have lousy attitudes and that poison affects their looks.

    I honestly don’t get how guys could even put up with that corrosive attitude long enough to hook up with them. Those women are like milk dudes, sweet on the outside, poison on the inside.

    • Putin says:

      Would agree that attitude counts for something.

    • Frank Wunder says:

      earl, from a faith/theological perspective do you think that faith can add to attractiveness?

      I don’t mean religious beliefs or church attendance, but genuine faith.

  25. earl says:

    ‘It’s not quite an ironclad rule, but the way to bet is that attractive women are likelier than homely women to have familiarity with the basic truths governing the behavior of the sexes.’

    I’d agree…attractive women are hit and miss. Homely women are 100% unfeminine.

  26. The Straw That Stirs the Drink says:

    Propaganda masters now spinning jailed blacks as “missing”… note the white missing population as sub 1%…

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/04/20/upshot/missing-black-men.html?action=click&contentCollection=DealBook&module=MostEmailed&version=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article&abt=0002&abg=0

  27. L-i-c-h-t-h-o-f says:

    The Night Porter (1974), 9.5 Weeks (1985), Fifty Shades of Grey (2015) all written by women. The Night Porter is the darkest most enjoyable for me . Dirk Bogarde is also a lot older than Charlotte Rampling which only increases the tension. Brilliant film with the most direct portrayal of Stockholm Syndrome.
    All the male leads had the dark triads – were cold & unemotional with extreme dominance.

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