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The subject of this post is the new plaintive wail you lately hear spilling from the schoolmarmish pursed lips of liberals and status quo-ers who are suddenly becoming very uncomfortable with the torrent of discomfiting truths penetrating the airwaves, and especially with the truthbomb throwers like the proprietors of this blog who actually sport a working sack and don’t give a flying fuck what offense the perpetually fake phony fraudulent grievance constituency takes when their cocktail party discourse is crashed by mischievous pricks.

“What is the point of telling ugly truths? Don’t you know it will hurt people? What good can come from it?”

The value of truth is self-evident. The pursuit of it needs no explanation. The fact that a growing chorus of institutional(ized) ruling elite is starting to think that some truths are best left locked in an attic chest bodes ill for the future of freedom of speech in America. I predict within ten years legislatures and courts across this land will impose restrictions on the First Amendment. And the Founding Fathers, having already rolled a million times in their graves, will roll one last time, and the earth will swallow whole the America we once knew, but which will be no more.

You think I’m joking, or that I’m posing in martyr garb. Ok, think that. Then get back to me in ten years, and we’ll see if you still have the confidence of your snarky smirk.

But I am in a magnanimous mood. Some ask the question from genuine motives. They sincerely don’t, or can’t, see the value in exposing pretty lies and ugly truths. And they want to know, “Where’s the Benefit?” One such topic of discussion which often elicits this bristled reaction is honest discussion about average human population groups differences (along numerous metrics). I understand the urge to silence, or cavalierly dismiss, open discussion of this topic. The human ego is the most powerful force in the universe, more powerful even than the female tingle. We are constructed of origin material that impels us to wrap our senses of self-worth in the neuronal equivalent of three foot steel-reinforced concrete bunkers, and to associate, no matter how unjustifiably, attacks against our tribe as judgments on ourselves.

I get it.

And… you know what? I don’t care.

Not anymore.

Not when the opposite of the truth — the filthy, acrid lies we here have been choking on for fifty years or more in this country — has been, and continues to be, used as a cudgel to bludgeon the skulls of the favored whipping boys and to take a huge steaming dump on reality.

It is an affront to my lying eyes. It is Orwellian in philosophy and practice. It is a humiliation, a personal slap in the face, to parade this stinking carcass of bullshit in front of me as if it is the Word of God and I should swallow it whole, for my own good you see.

I say fuck you to all of that. And I dream of the day when the rope will be knotted and the lampposts freshly lacquered for the vengeance upon my enemies, my betrayers, that is so sweet. So sweet.

Ahem.. oh yeah where was I… just had a caffeine moment… phew.

Anyhow, some persons of what I judge to have good hearts, ask if any good can come from discussing AICH BEE DEE. They ask what, if anything, would change if the ugliest truths were accepted by the ruling class? What is the practical benefit of hurting some people’s feelings? The reader Thursday emailed what I think is a very good reply to this question, and so I reprint it here:

Some practical applications of HBD:

1. Immigration restriction.  You need a certain number of high IQ people to keep a First World society going.
2. An end to affirmative action.  Minority underperformance is not due to racism, so affirmative action is grossly unfair.
3. Discouraging dysgenics, i.e. not subsidizing single motherhood through welfare, regardless of disparate impact on minorities.  See #1.
4. Shutting down movements to let minority prisoners out into society.  (I’m open to other equally effective methods of controlling crime, but they should be applied to all, not just minorities.)
5. An end to blaming white racism for all the problems of the world.
5a. This may seem like mostly a minor annoyance.  But really intellectual hygeine is reason enough to get rid of it. Forcing people to believe lies is generally corrupting.
5b. It prevents people from thinking seriously about solving the problems among low IQ groups.  You can’t solve a problem unless you think clearly about its cause.

You could make a case for some of these things without recourse to HBD, but we all know how effective that has been. For example, you can’t just talk about IQ without talking about HBD.  The disparities between high and low IQ racial groups just are there and are used to discredit the idea of IQ in general.  These days you really have to quote chapter and verse with hard data to show you aren’t racist.

As for inferior, well that is a judgment call.  In some important ways, blacks may be superior to whites and not just in regards to sports and celebrity.  T. is Haitian and I’d note that Haitian art is just way better than anything done in America in the past 50 years or so.

Whites have created liberal modernity and it is not without its significant downsides, spiritual, artistic and even intellectual.

Of course, blacks and many of these other groups don’t seem very good at creating and maintaining a crime free, high tech society.  Though I’d note that high levels of black crime and social dysfunction are at least partially a response to living in certain societies.  I’ve visited St. Lucia, which is a very black place, and, up until the recent influx of tourodollars, it had been mostly crime free and is still relatively so.  Blacks in the South up until the 1960s were relatively peaceful and well ordered too. But modernity + blacks seems to equal lots of crime and social dysfunction.

This is just a taste of the good — GOOD — social benefits that would come from listening to the truth instead of running from it or trying to shut it down. IQ is but one measure of a man’s character, and but one ingredient contributing to a culture’s prideful sense of self and trust in fellow-man. The truth covers much more extensive territory than just the particulars of abstract thinking ability. Any lie-pusher who attempts to reduce the debate to a disingenuous IQ war is engaging in deliberate obfuscation of the myriad other truths which pulse through the veins and capillaries of the human panoply of difference.

The consequences of lies matter. They matter more than most are willing to admit.

224 Responses to “What Is The Point Of Telling Ugly Truths?”

  1. asef says:

    Can we maybe have more Game-related posts again, please?

    Sure, you make some good points but maybe make another blog for it…

    • Alec Leamas says:

      Fuck off. If you don’t see the applicability of debunking polite lies as a worldview that will benefit your game, you don’t deserve to read what is written here.

      Take the red pill, dipshit.

    • Ben Roberts says:

      Sounds too me like this faggot likes the idea of evolutionary theory when it comes to game, but on all matters egalitarian, hates real talk. This kind of selective reasoning is feminine to the extreme. Please fuck off to Jezebel. You get to pick and choose what you like to believe there.

    • King A (Matthew King) says:

      In the long run, urban metrosexual red-pill PUAs will have to make the choice between their politics and their habits. Just like the twentysomething whores who think they can spend their prime slut-hopping the cockousel, then make the big switcheroo to family, dedicated playas-4-life will face an abrupt choice the moment they understand that the total investment in pussy creates no assets and no yields. This explains part of the shifting theme on this site, a shift asef has no ability to recognize or understand.

      While we don’t suffer menopause, eventually it becomes too late to invest in long-term assets for men as much as women, and so PUAs double down on the myths of marriage-as-prison and the permanence of women as unreformable, incorrigible sluts. The ones who recognize this mistake — like the high profile marriages/mea culpas within “the community” (D’Angelo, Cook, Max) — are abominations. They settle just like female wall victims do. If you don’t believe me, show me an attractive wife of a former PUA.

      You make your bed, you lie in it. You contribute to the blue-state urban cess pool, you get fat on its unique advantages, you become inextricable from the decline and fall. This explains the disconnect between CH’s personal tolerance for victimized minorities (blacks, gays) and his private HBD theories, only only come out to play in anonymous writings, that acknowledge the reality of indulging their dysfunction. Not only does the urban PUA’s habits require him to stay on a sinking ship, he must make peace with the sources of corruption: moving to the suburbs or the country is not an option. Virgins become “unicorns,” loyal childbearing wives can must be whores who haven’t met his charming ways yet, obedient women by definition exist only a white knight’s fantasy. There are no clubs in Iowa, no lawyer femmcunts whose sexual conquering is all the sweeter for her severe cuntliness. Could you imagine! Living on a farm! Or on a cul-de-sac in a gated subdivision?

      They hate the cum-stained taxis and shrill leftist busibodies all around them, but, like sea-level equatorial negroids, they are not conditioned to live in the high climes, the Zarathustran “rarefied air.” What to do besides resign oneself to the apocalypse? They make a desert and call it “poolside.” An empty, graffiti-slashed pool in the middle of the Bachelor Arms motel.

      Matt

    • zyzz says:

      fuck off with the beta begging for game related posts. If you haven’t been able to master game already by reading the past articles of this site, you will never get it.

      I am thirsty for society and culture articles.

      • Anon says:

        “you haven’t been able to master game already by reading the past articles of this site, you will never get it”

        EXACTLY!
        How come nobody ever put it that way? “READ THE F’IN ARCHIVES!!!”

        • Anon says:

          Most readers are new. They’ve spent a weak month reading, and they think they know it all. PISS OFF BITCHES!

    • monster221 says:

      theres a catagories dropdown, cocksucker.

  2. alvarez80 says:

    We need to realize that talking about HBD to liberals is like talking about evolution to creationists. Facts, figures, common sense . . . none of it matters. I know some people think that packaging HBD in a more lib-friendly manner might turn some libs into, say, a Peter Singer, at the very least. This might be true in some cases, but not in many.

    Re: why does it matter? It’s funny, but the same libs who ask this would not, I imagine, ask the same thing about Galileo mapping the solar system or Darwin positing natural selection, even though both ideas hurt people’s feelings without any tangible benefit.

    • corvinus says:

      We need to realize that talking about HBD to liberals is like talking about evolution to creationists.

      Liberals pride themselves on being open-minded, when all it means is being open-minded to liberal ideas.

    • Cloudswrest says:

      “We need to realize that talking about HBD to liberals is like talking about evolution to creationists. Facts, figures, common sense . . . none of it matters.”

      Actually, denial of HBD is CALLED “Liberal Creationism.” Google it.

      • Alec Leamas says:

        The important difference is that believing that your great-great-great-great grandmother was australopithecus has little effect on your life. Shielding your eyes to HBD and going into the hood at night gets you killed, or worse, Golden Urkel in the Whitehouse.

    • retrophoebia says:

      Speaking of Facts, Figures, and HBD, this is a fun site to visit if you haven’t run across it already. NSFWomen, it uses lots of numbers and things: http://lagriffedulion.f2s.com/

  3. taterearl says:

    There are some people you present truth to them…they prefer their heads in the sand because it hurts their feelings and it is more comfortable to live in ignorance.

    There are others you present truth to them…it is still a bitter pill to swallow, yet it is attractive to them and spurs change in their life for the better.

    It has been that way since the beginning of time.

    • uh says:

      No, it has not. There is every reason to believe that the centrifugal force of kincentricity has, in the case of northwest whites, spun out of control into insoluble polarization as symbolized by the election, embracing inter-ethnic and inter-sexual conflict.

      This is NOT seen in history at such an acute degree and confluence of factors. What we are dealing with is absolutely unique.

  4. uh says:

    Commitment to lies = aversion to sunk cost.

    Civilizations don’t change course. We are in this forever. As xsplant and Leslie White teach us: our society is this way because of the level of technology and cultural compounding.

    Why are whites ideologically the most diverse race? Consult HBDchick re outbreeding. THE END.

    • Mr Kissyface says:

      The ugliest truth, with the added feature no one wants to hear? White people are too selfish and cold to have enough kids to replace themselves.

      Which is more important to evolutionary fitness, the ability to invent the internet or the willingness to reproduce?

      • Dan Fletcher says:

        Maybe they would reproduce more if they weren’t taxed out the ass to support Big Mama in Section 8 pumping out her 11th kid.

        • pdwalker says:

          +1

          The more you tax the productive, the more you require that both parents are forced to work their jobs plus more, the fewer children they are going to have time for.

          • Mr Pointyface says:

            Yeah, complain to mother nature the libruls won’t let you have kids. If I wasn’t under supervision from Mr. Kissyface, I’d say that was pathetic.

        • Northman says:

          Exactly. My grandparents came from families with 10+ children. Quite obviously- environment dictates behavior.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Between myself and my two brothers-in-law, nine children have been brought into the world… a family portrait that friends tease us about its resemblance to an HJ poster.

        How many have you produced, sucker?

        Which is more important to evolutionary fitness, the ability to invent the internet or the willingness to reproduce?

        The ugliest truth is that most of the free-wheelin’ Swingin’ Richards and anti-white libtards, such as yourself, who post here have produced neither children nor internet.

  5. AvidReader says:

    Love these posts but can you please explain your acronyms. HBD? what?! Happy Birthday?! You threw them out multiple times in another recent post or tweet – would help reader grasp the concept if they knew what the acronyms stood for.

    • Military says:

      Human BioDynamics. The study of the genetic and evolutionary dynamics of humans.

    • corvinus says:

      Human Bio-Diversity. In other words, a willingness to examine the differences between human groups and races.

    • Anon says:

      It’s a PC word for racism.

      I just call myself racist… and proud.

      • Alec Leamas says:

        Racism implies a necessary impulse to hurt people of other races simply because they are of other races. HBD is simply facing the reality that is.

        • Greg Eliot says:

          Bullshit… it implies nothing of the sort, unless denying other races of the beauty and intelligence of one’s own race is considered “hurting people”… and perhaps in their eyes, it is… but too bad.

          Racism only implies hurting other people when they pose a threat to your folk.

          Without said threat, it merely means cooperating on certain levels (e.g., trade), but remaining spiritually and physically separate in matters relating to the integrity and uniqueness of one’s folk.

          • militius says:

            +1

          • thwack says:

            DECIDING who is nonwhite is the essential preliminary step to mistreating a person on the basis of color.

            If you can’t make that distinction and more importantly, MAKE IT STICK!

            You can’t practice racism.

            Every Jew knows this even though they pretend to not understand when you mention it.

          • PA says:

            mistreating a person on the basis of color

            Translating from Parasite to English: “holding back on gibsmedats”

          • Greg Eliot says:

            Your horse is getting old, sway-backed, and tired… neither whites nor nonwhites seem to have much trouble identifying each other in the meat world.

            The only entities that do have an issue are the FBI and other police departments, who often lump in a bunch of off-color mischlings and many hispanics as “white”, merely because they’re not purely negro in appearance and/or don’t identify themselves as such.

      • thwack says:

        Finally the truth.

        • King A (Matthew King) says:

          Unfortunately for you, the truth will out.

          Our generation will continue to be cowed by mere words and the pursed lips of SWPL, or it will extinct itself. Once that choice is presented fully, which path do you think we will take? The warm euthanasia of PC platitudes, or the strength to say nigger again? A word, by the way, you employ with greater frequency than any single commenter here. Does that clue you in to anything?

          You just got what your people most desire, and you desired with the insensate, animal intensity of 95-5 ratios. Blaming whitey for your congenital dysfunction is getting old. Rubbing it in to your pasty milquetoast allies, who hate themselves for your convenience, is a stupid, dangerous game. They will be willing cuckolds, sure, but the rest of us are inspired by such abject white prostration to fight at levels which exceed whatever marginal utility the traitors may have provided.

          But then, avoiding the fights you can’t win has never been your people’s strong point. Which is why you are known to history as the ultimate slave people (how is that for “defining race”?). We don’t need your manual labor anymore, and we won’t bleed ourselves dry in the cause of liberating your servile asses again. So tread lightly. Your new masters will not be so forgiving as the ones that are passing.

          Take the confession, “Racism implies a necessary impulse to hurt people of other races simply because they are of other races.” This confusion of masochism for sadism cannot continue. We just re-upped the HNIC. If he has any leadership skills whatsoever, he will parlay his position into the domination the SWPL fantasize about. But he is stupid, dysfunctional, and useless, the bastard son of a father he once met for 15 minutes and a browncock-hopping whore he likewise hardly knew. He is the cliché of the shiftless black deadbeat incompetent kicked upstairs and writ national, pimping his ride while his illegitimate spawn go without lunch money, ghettoizing the “last, best hope of the earth.”

          The wreckage of his first term has already set your people back 50 years. His second term will make whatever hope you had to compete on our level unrecoverable. What do you think will happen when the next swarthy fellow stands for the highest office in the land? If you really think we are going to say, “Thank you, sir, may I have another?” you need to become acquainted with the whites who live outside of your deferential herb-circle.

          But that’s why you frequent these sites, isn’t it? It’s the only way you will get a white man to say the truth in front of you, the truth that comports with the justified self-hatred buried deep where it can’t hurt you, which in your rare moments of clarity, you secretly suspect is accurate.

          Matt

          • My friend Craig says:

            Scrumptious! Such eloquent…well, verbose utter impotence. “The wreckage of his first term has already set your people back 50 years.” Yees! Batshit delusion wrought by crushing cognitive dissonance of being told “you don’t matter and no one cares about your ideas” by the electorate while virtually living in an online echo chamber that says otherwise!

          • Greg Eliot says:

            Just what this site needed… another sock-puppet telling his betters that they and their ideas don’t matter.

          • thwack says:

            King A, I know niggers are not qualified to run a country anywhere except into the ground.

            But truth be told, we couldn’t stop white people from putting a nigger in the white house anymore than we could stop Lincoln from freeing the slaves?

            We don’t run anything and we know this. Somebody else set this whole thing up because they knew niggers would fall for it.

            Its the white mans fault for breeding all these useless niggers. If the white man would end all his programs to help niggers, niggers would either have to help themselves or die.

            You won’t let black people grow up.

            Sorry Matt, I have no sympathy for the white man. All your anscestors benefitted/made money off niggers; but they left you guys with the bill.

            Did your parents hafta go to school with niggers?

            no

            Did your parents hafta work with niggers?

            no

            Did your parents get to live in all white neighborhoods?

            Yes

            You should be kicking your own mother and fathers ass! Look at this shit country they left you?

            and,

            and,

            THEY STOLE ALL THE MONEY!

            Listen Matt, black people cannot compete with the white mans money. Its as simple as that.

            Thats why Im not going to fight the collapse of the white mans money.

            Black people do have sense, but you’ll never know it as long as the white man is paying niggers to prove otherwise.

            (((shakin my head)))

          • Jason says:

            “But he is stupid, dysfunctional, and useless…. He is the cliché of the shiftless black deadbeat incompetent kicked upstairs and writ national, pimping his ride while his illegitimate spawn go without lunch money, ghettoizing the “last, best hope of the earth.””

            Winner: Hate-Filled Ad Hominem Attack of the Week.

            Once you start name-calling, Matt, you’ve already lost the debate. A passing acquaintance with both rhetorical fallacies and numbers will really improve your persuasive skills.

            Until then, you are Exhibit A of bloviation, the alpha (heh) and omega of Internet gasbaggery — despite your claims to the contrary.

          • Greg Eliot says:

            Your finger-wagging might gain you points with the Huffington crowd, but it means nothing to men… so give it a rest, alphie-who-loves-to-snipe.

            You ranting about King A reminds one of nothing so much as the ten year old who attempts to kick the shins of the local high school quarterback, to prove his boldness to the other little rascals in his He-Man-Rayciss-Haters-Club.

    • Dr Caveman says:

      Had the same problem, probably because I read this blog for male-female dynamics. Not rambling political rants.

      It seems different readers have different interpretation of the same acronym

  6. Bill says:

    This post makes the dangerous mistake of positing that progress and change can be brought about through reason and argument. Open borders, an activist judiciary, affirmative action and most other abominations that fall under the label “liberalism” have never had widespread support. They have been enacted through the brute exercise of elite power through undemocratic channels and, to the extent numbers are needed, bribes to the lumpenproles. America is beyond redemption and has been for a couple of decades. The country has fallen so far that recovery would require the exercise of brute force such as that seen under the fascist and communist regimes of the last century – a task clearly beyond the fat, aging natives of the USA. Exchanges of words with the enemy will only be a waste of time, lead to frustration and invite retaliation from elites and the foreign hordes. Best to isolate yourself to the extent possible and when communicating to focus on manipulating your audience rather than educating them.

    • uh says:

      uh approves of this comment 100%!!!

    • The Man Who Was . . . says:

      Well, then there is this:

      “It is an affront to my lying eyes. It is Orwellian in philosophy and practice. It is a humiliation, a personal slap in the face, to parade this stinking carcass of bullshit in front of me as if it is the Word of God and I should swallow it whole, for my own good you see.”

      But then this post is a reply to those who think we should accept these lies on the basis that the truth would do no good even if accepted. That is yet another lie.

      • Boo says:

        It is of no value to you whether what you believe is the truth or a fiction?

        Knowingly believing something that is false, huh?

    • Lara says:

      This wasn’t an exchange of words with the enemy. It was a response to a friend.

    • Alec Leamas says:

      Benito Mussolini’s jaw says “what’s up?”

  7. Strauss says:

    “3. Discouraging dysgenics, i.e. not subsidizing single motherhood through welfare, regardless of disparate impact on minorities. See #1.”

    Is not possible that some forms of single motherhood may be eugenics?

    Let me explain, single motherhood often comes when the girl doesn’t find a high-status guy (alpha, which presumably has good genes) to commit, so it is a strategy that can be used by such women when they don’t need a man to provide, any thoughts?

  8. Northman says:

    Thank you for this.

  9. Truth is preferable to lies because reality exists. The West has competitors, and enemies (China and Islam, respectively). The West faces formidable challenges, and operating on lies is like trying to reach America from Spain thinking the world is flat. Operating on Truth is scientific, operating on lies is religious dogma.

  10. Let the truth be told

  11. thought says:

    At the end of the day what does it mean? Commit a holocaust against black people?

    • Alec Leamas says:

      No. Let them be as they will be. Wiki Liberia.

      • Anonymous says:

        Go watch the Vice Guide to Liberia. My favorite was the heroin-smoking cross-dresssing cannibals.

      • thwack says:

        says the white man who has not and wont leave anybody be; including other white people.

        • Anonymous says:

          Liberia was a country for freed slaves. See how nice white people were? Hence Liberia from liberty, why the Liberian flag looks like the US one, and the capital Monrovia for president James Monroe. Of course once they got it, they kept fucking it up over and over again. Thanks HBD!

    • Full-Fledged Fiasco says:

      A serious question: why you read this blog?

      • My friend Craig says:

        Got to be for schadenfreude at this point since the entire “enlightened racism” blogosphere was rendered irrelevant at 11:18 pm est 11/6/12. I’m partial to the doom & gloom soothsaying from the position of zero power. “You’ll be sorry!” Heh heh, k.

    • Bryan says:

      We should segregate. That doesnt mean them drinking out of black water fountains. That means complete total separation from white people. Secede them a few states and let them run it themselves. If they turn it into a hellhole that’s their problem. Blacks have shown time and time again they hate white people despite the fact they are given welfare, affirmative action, and housing.

      Blacks and whites are simply too different for us to ever live together peacefully.

      • Jason says:

        According to 1990 Census Bureau statistics:

        61% of welfare recipients are white.
        33% of welfare recipients are black.

        Let’s all stop painting with such a broad brush.

        • Anon says:

          And blacks are 12% of the population, dumbfuck.
          They’re over fucking represented.

        • retrophoebia says:

          Jason,

          That’s disproportionate to % of population–250% of demographic representation for blacks (assuming blacks are ~13% of overall US population) and 85% of white representation (wikipedia says the US is 72% white). Does that affect your position?

          • Jason says:

            Thanks, retro, I was waiting for such a response. Yes, blacks rely on welfare more than whites.

            My point: There are twice as many whites on welfare as blacks. Whatever we say about them, there are twice as many fingers pointing back at us.

            The broad brush needs to stop.

          • Anon says:

            wow just wow.

          • retrophoebia says:

            Jason, respectful disagreement here. The disproportionate stats speak to–for all to see–a deep and fundamentally unaddressed problem in the way we structure our policies based on our views of who needs help and why. It’s only politic to bring this up in the context of why white privilege is keeping minorities from achieving their potential, and alternate plausible explanations (which have real policy implications) are ignored. The absolute numbers matter little in that debate. cheers,

          • TheBestMan says:

            now lets see the proportion of white people and black people that pay in tax to the welfare system.

            You’ll see its a double whammy. Blacks paying nothing and taking everything.

      • thwack says:

        Bryan
        We should segregate. That doesnt mean them drinking out of black water fountains. That means complete total separation from white people.
        ————-

        We already tried that in Planet of the Apes– remember the “Forbidden Zone?” We had it all set up perfectly, God fearing Apes on one side, mutant, poisoned sick twisted walkin up out of ground zero white man on the other side.

    • Ben Roberts says:

      No just send them all to Detroit and Atalanta so they can prove to the world how good they are at running shit. They just had a lot of bad luck in Haiti and Africa

  12. “An end to affirmative action. Minority underperformance is not due to racism, so affirmative action is grossly unfair.”

    Are you serious?! If they ever took HBD seriously, that would justify affirmative action forever.

    • Northman says:

      It could also justify a return to traditional patriarchy and racial separatism.

    • Actually, it would justify neocolonialism, if you reason more closely.

    • Boo says:

      Affirmative action works on the premise that disadvantaged groups are disadvantaged because of past treatment, and given proper advantages, they can contribute to society on par with non-disadvantaged groups.

      If this was true, eventually non-disadvantaged groups would also be lumped into the category “white,” much like the Irish, Portuguese, and Italians are in the USA.

      • tacomaster says:

        How long are we going to keep this failed affirmative action experiment going? At what point do these minority groups stop being victims?

        • Boo says:

          Are you asking what I think should happen, or will happen? Believe me, they are VERY different questions, with very different answers.

  13. Matt says:

    Speaking of ugly truths, look at this article about Gen. Petraeus cheating on his wife. It has pictures of the wife, and the mistress.

    One is extremely good looking. One is… not. Guess which?

    I don’t condone cheating, but it’s really really really good advice to wives to not let themselves go.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230697/David-Petraeus-resigns-head-CIA.html?ICO=most_read_module

    • gramps says:

      Why? He is ruined. Not her.

    • Strauss says:

      It doesn’t have pictures of the mistress, the hot lady is the biographer which exposed the extra marital affair.

      His wife was good looking and young when he married her, this was a dishonorable act on his part honestly.

      • Strauss says:

        Sorry, i misread the article, the biographer does seem to be the affair.

      • JCclimber says:

        You obviously have different standards of what is “good looking”.
        And that mistress IS very attractive.

      • Matt says:

        Oh sure, I absolutely agree. Men shouldn’t cheat on their wives.

        Wives should help make this as easy as possible, both as a matter of love for their spouse and out of naked self-interest.

    • The Man Who Was . . . says:

      Damn that is a huge point spread between the wife and the mistress. Now I’m not saying he should have banged her. But I understand.

      • Anonymous says:

        Update on what I wrote below, Petraeus is truly a beta male, despite being the only American general to ever win two wars (MacArthur wasn’t allowed to win the Korean War). Not only was his mistress twenty years older than a four star general could have gotten, but the FBI was legitimately upset that, when the 39 year old mistress rejected him last year, he spent the past year begging her to come back to him.

        Obama may have left our men to die in Benghazi, but if the reports are true, the CIA director who may have the goods on him was also a “Begging Beta” who’d been rejected by what would have to be the mother of any girl I’d date (and I’m his age).

    • PA says:

      Dang, “failure of judgment”? Petreus will savor the memory of that bang for the rest of his life. Not that I condone.

    • corvinus says:

      I don’t condone cheating, but it’s really really really good advice to wives to not let themselves go.

      And to guys to not marry a woman unless she is slender and ten years younger (hotter, tighter…)

      • PA says:

        And to guys to not marry a woman unless she is slender and ten years younger

        Yes. I have been saying this here four years ago. This is key.

      • Anonymous says:

        She must be minimum 25 years younger if you’re stupid enough to marry.You have been warned.

        And the general was clearly beta for getting only a 39 year old as a lover. If he was going to cheat, it could have been with someone still in her 20s, even at his age if he knew what game was, and there didn’t have to be much of an electronic paper trail like I hear there was..

        As director of the CIA, you don’t need to be in a position to be blackmailed, either by foreign powers or….

        the Obama administration.

        This, boys, clears Petraeus to be able to tell the truth in the Benghazi hearings in Congress coming up.

        • bbartlog says:

          Eh, you’re sort of assuming that he made an active decision to go out looking for fresh pussy. In that case yes, no reason to bang a 39 year old. But I doubt he woke up one day and decided to cheat on his wife; rather, I expect that proximity, convenience and availability just led to him fall into bed with Broadwell. You can’t deny that she’s still attractive at her age (especially compared to his wife), even if someone who’s actively on the prowl might aim even higher.

        • Mr Pointyface says:

          Thet fucked up security wise and the Ambassador and others were killed. Is this earth-shaking? It’s a fuckup. You work for state in a nation of cave men, you may get killed. Regrettable and actionable. People just have a hard-on for Barry.

    • Full-Fledged Fiasco says:

      “All in”? This Broadwell chick is unbelievable.

    • Anon says:

      And of course, there’s a cuckold in the story.
      That’s what you get for marrying a hyperactive lawyercunt (in this case, a military officer who spends whole years on missions abroad, in the company of all kinds of sexy alpha males and high-ranking high-achieving beta males).

      Admire the face of the BETA (scroll down a little bit):

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230975/Petreaus-mistress-Paula-Broadwells-awkward-interview-Jon-Stewart-The-Daily-Show.html

  14. Peaty says:

    1. Immigration restriction. You need a certain number of high IQ people to keep a First World society going.

    You get them by increasing immigration, not decreasing it. Nothing guarantees that your natives are worth a damn. (You should read what Mencken says about white southerners.) The difficulty of relocating here (especially, say, from Asia) tends to filter anyone who is not, at least, ambitious. Today David Brooks cited a Pew Center study that says if anything, Asians and Hispanics value hard work more than whites. I don’t know how much of that correlates to intelligence but it must be at least somewhat inimical to stupidity.

    • Anonymous says:

      “You get them by increasing immigration, not decreasing it.”

      Or you could get a system like Canadas which specifically weeds out undesirables.

    • Dr Caveman says:

      Australia has a sensible policy when it comes to immigration. They only let people in who are able to contribute something to society (ie academics, skilled migrants). This has resulted in a large influx of Asians, with all the benefits associated with those migrant groups (high iq, low unemployment, low crime rates, slim sweet girls).

      Australia understands that immigrants are a resource, and they have policies in place to get the cream of the potential immigrant population.

      • Bryan says:

        I hope people understand that when they take the cream of the crop from a third world country they are further weakening that society. Does that thought not cross their minds? Or do they just not care? These people need to work on improving their society, not jumping ship.

    • Boo says:

      “The difficulty of relocating here (especially, say, from Asia) tends to filter anyone who is not, at least, ambitious.”

      Not when all you have to do is walk north with enough water for a couple weeks, or get in the right trunk of the right car.

      Your point holds for transoceanic immigration though.

    • corvinus says:

      The era of being able to import high-IQ people is over, for the simple reason that high-IQ people (read: Europeans and East Asians) are collapsing in number. Trying to draw off high-IQ people from China and India poses other problems, such as cultural incompatibility and the tendency of the newcomers to favor their own kind over us.

      Hispanics aren’t particularly bright; about half may be considered white, but the other half are indios with some blacks. The reason we get a lot of Hispanics is due to proximity; we’re the nearest rich country to them.

      If I were dictator, my immigration reform would be to allow people in only if they were married to U.S. citizens, scrapping “family reunification” entirely. And getting rid of jus soli too, of course.

    • McGinnis says:

      You’re forgetting family based petitions, asylum & refugee based petitions, VISA lottery, and amnesty for illegals.

  15. bob says:

    Let me quote that good old Otto Weininger (written in 1903):

    “Our age is not only the most Jewish but the most feminine. It is a time when art is content with daubs and seeks its inspiration in the sports of animals ; the time of superficial anarchy, with no feeling for Justice and the State ; a time of communistic ethics, of the most foolish of historical views, the materialistic interpretation of history ; a time of capitalism and of Marxism ; a time when history, life, and science are no more than political economy and technical instruction ; a time when genius is supposed to be a form of madness ; a time with no great artists and no great philosophers ; a time without originality and yet with the most foolish craving for originality ; a time when the cult of the Virgin has been replaced by that of the Demi-vierge. It is the time when pairing has not only been approved but has been enjoined as a duty.”

    Sex and Character, p.329-330

    The whole book is a huge slap in the face. Read it, again and again.

    • Peaty says:

      Wikipedia, on Weinenger’s philosophy: “…the duty of the male, or the masculine aspect of personality, is to strive to become a genius, and to forego sexuality for an abstract love of the absolute, God, which he finds within himself.” Good luck with that.

      • bob says:

        Good luck finding that in his book.

        • Peaty says:

          Point taken. Although in 1903 Picasso was painting his Blue Period and Husserl was active, for what those are worth.

          • bob says:

            The very idea of “foregoing sexuality” (as in “doing without” I guess) is in direct contradiction with the concept of genius (which he defines as universality inside one man) he develops throughout the book.

            How can you strive to become a genius if you forego parts of the world? This was written by an idiot.

    • Mr Kissyface says:

      Stravinsky premiered the Rite of Spring a few years later. All musicians remember him. who remembers this guy but wing nuts?

      • Anonymous says:

        You means besides Ludwig Wittgenstein, one of the greatest philosophers of the 20th century? Sh-sh-short bus. “While a student at the Realschule, Wittgenstein was influenced by Austrian philosopher Otto Weininger’s 1903 book Geschlecht und Charakter (Sex and Character). Weininger (1880–1903), who was both Jewish and homosexual, argued…” That’s going to leave a mark.

        • Anonymous says:

          Also, Wittgenstein worked with Bertrand Russell and John Maynard Keynes while in the Cambridge Apostles. The economist Keynes? Does that name ring a bell?

          • Greg Eliot says:

            Be not proud… pwning Kissy/Pointyface is like outboxing a thalidomide victim.

          • Anonymous says:

            High five!
            It’s ok though, other people can learn too.

  16. gramps says:

    Speaking ugly truths may be unpleasant, but being ambushed by a beautiful lie is much, much worse.

    For example, one beautiful lie is that many millions of low wage Mexican immigrants will generate enough wealth to pay aging white people’s pensions. The much more likely outcome is that millions of low wage Mexican Americans will soak up more wealth than they generate (they do send money back to the old country, and the young working ones do have old relatives of their own, too). They need housing, schools, health care, police,fire, etc. Making 13 dollars per hour just won’t do it.

    So, the much more likely outcome is that these millions of Mexican Americans, in the name of fairness, will help themselves to a lot of the old white people’s money, either through the political process or by extra-legal means.

    I have never seen a good long term outcome when a country imports a lot of cheap labor.

    Of course, back to this blog’s major use. I have been screwed over a number of times by the beautiful lies regarding the fairer sex. Ugly truths need to be taught. Life is much better when you know the rules.

    A happy recent experience to lighten up this blog: As she tightened the handcuffs, and bit harder, she smiled and said, “You’re fun.” It that an ugly truth, or just the truth?

  17. Wolfie65 says:

    And what is the point of telling ugly women the truth?
    Sometimes it’s fun to make them mad.

  18. Uncle Elmer says:

    Did you have to use the word “cudgel”? It’s straight out of a paperback porn novel. Creepy and disturbing.

  19. aj says:

    Love the blog, changed my life.

    One comment. I’m an immigrant. Dark skinned.

    More importantly though, I am a doctor, working in a part of the country in dire need of medical care. Taking care of people, making money, living the dream.

    Becoming more alpha and giving back at the same time. I would argue IQ and consequent productivity to society can be independent of race / cultural background.

    Of course the counter-argument is that I am in the ‘minority’. The irony is not lost on me.

    • Dan Fletcher says:

      These things tend to have a bell-curve distribution. Just means you are on the right side of it.

    • Boo says:

      Congratulations, and thank you. Saying there are no brilliant, hardworking people in a given ethnic or racial minority is as stupid as sayin there are no idiotic lazy people in a given ethnic or racial majority.

      The bell curve extends both ways for all groups, and the only way to ascertain where a particular individual lies on the curve is to get to know him or her.

      This is why it is important not to give entire groups of people advantages or disadvantages based on their group.

      • Jason says:

        +1

        Thank you. There is no brush too wide for some of the mouthbreathers in these comments to slather across the earth.

        • Boo says:

          Yeah, like intelligence, honor, and many other positive qualities, racism and mouthbreathing idiocy also distributes itself on a bell curve. Nobody’s got a monopoly, but you may find it more prevalent in one group over another. Don’t let the bastards get you down.

    • corvinus says:

      Our medical schools kept their openings unreasonably restrictive, hence our need to poach doctors from India(?) like aj here.

      • Anonymous says:

        The bell curve in India generally extends to the right with the Brahmin castes. Dalits are generally on the left. That of course does not stop there being a stupid Brahmin and a briilliant Dalit, but most of the Indian doctors are of Brahmin descent.

        “The bell curve extends both ways for all groups, and the only way to ascertain where a particular individual lies on the curve is to get to know him or her.” Yes but Boo, the real bottom is the CENTER of the curve is different for different groups. Meaning the average people clustering around the mean will vary. This has consequences we are still trying to ascertain.

  20. PA says:

    Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.
    – Theodore Dalrymple

    Fighting the pretty lies is saying NO to being humiliated.

  21. gramps says:

    There is a big difference between simply stating the truth, ugly or not, and harping on other people’s shortcomings. Usually, once people simply accept the truth, ugly or not, they are OK with it. We adapt.

    Nobody should be a fanatic. (A man who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.)

  22. Reader’s probably are right about the posting of ‘game’ related articles, however it is an excellent choice to balance game theory or in-field experiential phenomena with thought’s as these written Above. One need balance the injustice of semantic system’s by dabbling esoterically in that which is unfamiliar.

    Props.

  23. Sad B says:

    Dalrymple: Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

  24. Mr.C says:

    The truth can be uncomfortable and painfull but it sets you free.

  25. Rum says:

    Coming to terms with HBD realities is a thoroughly necessary step along the path that leads to true game awareness, Understanding the truth of female attraction triggers will remain impossible for guys as long as they believe women are similar, even remotely similar, to themselves in these matters, They are not and never will be so one must accept that to cope with a different and more nuanced paradigm.The same folks who have been lie-ing about women also habitually lie about and conceal anything relevant regarding the extent and meaning of regional population brain-gene differences.
    Crime scene DNA samples can be screened for sub h, african origins quickly and easily by checking quite a small number of locations.

    • Dan Fletcher says:

      So many people think they have taken the Red Pill when they have only scratched the surface. They admit to the true nature of women but stop short of acknowledging the hard biological realities which impact many aspects of the world.

      I suspect this is because the media/academic(marxist) brainwashing for HBD related things runs much deeper.

  26. PA says:

    HBD realism is not a panacea. One scenario is that powers that be, should they acknowledge HBD, will enforce a genetic communism that goes beyond our current economic communism. Fear this.

    Right now, with HBD being off the table, the elites are fighitng us with proxy blank-slate premises. Whites are too “racist”, wealth and opportunity is unequotably distributed, and so on.

    But what if they get clarity, and say “whites have an unfair advantage not due to insitutional arrangemens or selfishness,but due to nature. This will not be.” And the solution is as implacable as the hard truths of HBD.

    This is why HBD, from our perspective, is just a tool, a proxy for our intersts, At one point, ideological self-defense may arrive not at IQ charts, but at teh nucleus of the truth: we assert our right ot exist.

    • What’s “genetic communism”?

      • PA says:

        Ministry of Love

        • I don’t think that’s likely – it’s more likely they will deliberately dumb down whites educationally or use a leveling biotech. Besides, the elite needs cadres as well…

          • PA says:

            Forced mixing is not outside of the realm of possibility. The better to distribute the genetic capital.

          • Nah. I think that would require unprecedented totalitarianism. You have to persuade or deceive people into something like that – brute force is…brute.

            Besides, you can’t reliably control the results of something like that.

          • anon says:

            “you have to persuade or deceive people into something like that – brute force is…brute.”

            have you seen the number of new shows the networks are pimping this season that feature a nigger fucking a blonde woman? the communists know women are herd creatures and will follow the monkeys on the jewtube.

          • This forced mixing is already part of what elites/infotainment people like. The Marvel 2099 series had as the Spider-Man series a bit on forced-mixing, no White guys or gals allowed. This is mostly driven by White women’s disgust for beta males, who are predominantly White.

  27. Jason says:

    IQ is a false metric for what constitutes a desirable person to have in your group.

    I know some really dumb people who do right, day in and day out.

    On the flip side, the smarter the evil, the more damage it can do.

    Better to be good than to be smart.

    • Dan Fletcher says:

      Fuck off with your crude straw man. IQ is just one of many factors. No one has claimed otherwise.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        IQ is a false metric… unless you’re giving whitey the ol’ neener-neener about how the Asians and the Jews have higher averages.

    • Bryan says:

      Low IQ societies have demonstrated time and time again that they are unable to build or even maintain a first world existence. The cost of having a few evil high IQ people is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

    • whorefinder says:

      Sweetheart,

      We know you’re all upset that the dumb niggers are just dumb, and all your vaunted educational spending didn’t save them, and that racism is failing as an excuse.

      Don’t worry.

      We’ll all end up like Detroit soon.

    • retrophoebia says:

      Low-G folks have a much tougher time processing information and understanding causality, making them much more susceptible to demagoguery. This is an important incentive to understand in a voting society.

    • Epoche* says:

      Smart is not the same as good, just like high status doesnt mean productive/worthwhile. But competency and personal responsibility are more important than is currently accepted in polite conversation.

  28. For all the vibrants who take offense, let me tell you that our refusal to have children is actually a very subtle form of revenge.

    How so? You may ask. Allow me to elucidate.

    100 years from now, when your animal skin wearing, spear chucking progeny are banging rocks against the cooling tower of a nuclear power plant, beseeching their moon god for help… there won’t be a single white man around to tell them how to actually get the lights back on.

    Enjoy living a hunter gatherer existence until the sun explodes. As history has shown over, and over again, that’s the best you’ll ever do.

  29. Sp5 says:

    Talking about black and white is pointless when on a global scale there is so much more yellow and brown. This will make the difference over the next thousand years. And we’ll be dead.

    IQ has a lot of factors – seems to be variable across cultures and economies more than by race. See Thomas Sowell.

    Anyways, I knew too many solid black guys in the military to rant and rave about “niggers.” Always seemed like the tell of a white loser to me.

    • Anonymous says:

      But, is it beta?

    • anon says:

      so then do you also consider it the tell of a loser when a black person rants and raves about the oppressive white man, or does your anti-white racism only swing in one direction?

      the tell of a beta is whether he is too pc to use the n word now and again. blacks use the word all day long, and use plenty of slurs against whites, so it’s all fair game.

    • gramps says:

      I suspect the black guys in the military are a select group.

      If you read the history of multiracial societies, the browns first force out the whites, then the blacks force out the browns. Then, you have a Haiti or a Liberia.

      It is all about birth rates.

      • Anonymous says:

        Haiti and Liberia are both fascinating countries that show HBD quite clearly. They make perfect sense if you look at them through a non-PC lens, and no sense at all how they can possibly keep failing if you don’t. Haiti can be divided into Afro-Haitians of African descent, and mulatto Franco-Haitians of mixed French descent. Obviously Franco-Haitians rule the country. Liberia had an elite ruling class for 133 years called Americo-Liberians, which were descendents of black american slaves. Average IQ of Americo-Liberians: 85, Liberian: 65. Interesting seeing one group of blacks enslaving another.

  30. shmiggen says:

    I predict within ten years legislatures and courts across this land will impose restrictions on the First Amendment.

    Oh I have been thinking about that lately. The closer you guys come to being a socialized nanny state like the one I grew up with in Canada, that is what happens. No shit. Americans beware: first it is public health care, then it is public this and public that. Before you know it you are being sued and shut down because you said something hurtful (sniffle) on a blog. You think I’m kidding? Google Mark Steyn and the BC Human Rights Commission.

    • Anonymous says:

      You know it’s sad when Canada is your role model.

    • whorefinder says:

      We already did. See what Obama did to the filmmaker of the Anti-Islam film, even though Obama knew the film hadn’t caused the Libya attack.

      The 1st Amendment is dead, my friends.

  31. I’m not quite sure what is called ‘liberal’ in the US at the present time? It looks like blacks and whites are divided among the two main liberal parties…

    • anon says:

      lol awesome troll.
      Either that or your foreign ignorance reveals our own absurdity to us.

  32. avd says:

    Impressive screed. Thank you. The lies are destroying us.

  33. Mr. C says:

    The Garbage Generation – The Pathology of the Female-headed Family.

    http://fatherfigurevideo.com/garbage-generation-by-daniel-amneus.pdf

  34. […] the Chateau’s recent post and comments on Ugly Truths made me recall a couple effective (well, more effective than the […]

  35. Andrewj says:

    I don’t dabble into politics here because I believe game and political persuasions should be kept separate. Politics distorts the message, instead of focusing on the message you focus on the person.
    You may try to stop it and deny however you like but at the end of the day, Liberalism will always prevail. What was radical 50 years ago is seen as the norm today. What’s even more ironic it’s generally the Conservatives that enforce the changes.
    Black people were generally not a ‘menace’ in society until crack cocaine infiltrated them. Crack cocaine destroyed the black family (male headed) structure. This gave rise to the hip hop and BET culture which basically fucked the black community, instead of aiming to be a teacher, nurses, accountants, etc, from a young age they aim to be ‘baller’ or some kind of performance artist.
    Well this is relates to the white community because of the rise in Meth amongst the white working class.
    I don’t care about other races, blaming other races for what’s wrong with our own sounds very familiar indeed.

    • anon says:

      blah blah blah…more anti-white racist Bullshit.
      Did you lift this stuff out of a Farrakhan speech, or was it Jesse Jackson?
      Blacks were angels until the evil white CIA came along and forced them to smoke crack cocaine.

      Are they really still teaching this stuff in liberal universities?!

      • Andrewj says:

        What are you advocating, a separate nation between whites and minorities. Yes of course keep living in your fantasy world, but at the end of the day Liberalism always prevail and they is absolutely nothing you all can do about it.

        Ideology built on hate will always fail.

        • Greg Eliot says:

          Why is Liberalism so successful?

          Because Ideologies based upon misplaced pity and naive optimism by the haves, and envy by the have-nots (who says hate fails?) succeed in environments where unnatural affiliations between disparate entities exist.

          But only for awhile…

          Enjoy it while it lasts.

          • Andrewj says:

            Are you seriously basing your argument as a Liberal I’m naive and blacks/minorities hate whites.
            And to also to enjoy it while it lasts.
            Seriously!!

        • Greg Eliot says:

          Don’t you so-called liberals, who pride yourselves on alleged reason, logic, and magnanimous feelings towards all creatures great and small, find it just a tad ironic when you describe as “hate” the very natural inclination of said creatures to be left alone, preferably amongst their own kind?

  36. Themasterpower says:

    I have been a enthusiastic reader of your writings in the last 2 years. I have taught some of your ideas of how to be a alpha to my cousins who are in high and middle school. They were “nice guys”, now they are very different and very successful with girls. I have keep my young wife in line (slavish lol) using red-pill knowledge ( she’s is easily a 8). I agree 90% of what is said in this website about other issues without bias ( I’m Latino btw with no money).

  37. Epoche* says:

    The point of telling ugly truths is that a living worth living in the long run cannot ultimately be based upon lies.

    • Mr Pointyface says:

      Yeah, “ugly truths”–an important one being racist complainers are always blaming someone and bitching. Where ever do they get time to do their monumental White Heroism shit like murdering jews or lynching black people?

      Do you think Thomas Edison or Stravinsky wasted much of their his time bitching about blacks or whoever was the current scapegoat?

      If you’re so smart, why don’t you DO something?

  38. Genaro says:

    I heartily approve the message of this blog entry.

  39. Genaro says:

    BTW

    Has the relationship between IQ and game been commented on this blog?

    The 3 biggest alpha players I know personally are all IQ 120+, maybe more. I do not personally know a single alpha who is stupid (sure, there must be a few, but I guess they are successful mainly because their looks make them self-assured so they end up adopting alpha manners, on top of their good looks).

    On the other hands, I have friends with very good looks who could be Homeric players. The problem is, they are not very smart and are unable to grasp even the basics of game. What´s worse: presented with time proven chateau wisdom, they ignore and even dismiss it, thinking it´s some kind of random and eccentric false doctrine – or that you are just somehow showing off and trying to pass as someone who – God forbid! – knows more than them. Betatude will see them to the grave. And I feel they deserve it.

    Gentlemen, most people´s low-IQ (and, sometimes utter imbecility, as is, sadly, one of my friends´ case) is the guarantee that game will remain the preserve of a few privileged men. And this men´s IQ won´t be low.

    • Jason says:

      High IQ helps with improvisation and DHV and maintaining frame control. So the most deft players probably skew to the right side of the bell curve.

      • Genaro says:

        So, we seem to agree on that. It would be interesting to see if someone out there is willing and able to make the case for alpha-idiots and delve deeper into this.

        • Greg Eliot says:

          The real-life Spicoli, that kid from Australia that threw the house party, was touted as an alpha on this forum.

          Pfffft.

  40. thwack says:

    The problem with white people is too many of them think they can slide by with pale skin and blond hair; unlike their anscestors who actually had to do great and vast things…

    Face it, todays white person is just not as good as the ones in the past.

    At the same time, necessity has caused a lot of nonwhite people to amp up their game.

    By the time a nonwhite person is 30, he has worked with a white person whom, if they weren’t white, would never be in the position they are in.

    The ugly truth is that the white supremacy system has allowed many sorry whites to slide by without any qualifications other than some pale skin and a square ass…

    White men see it in white women, but they ignore it in themselves.

    Wake up white man.

    • Epoche* says:

      A lot of these problems could be resolved by getting rid of the income tax and the laws against restrictive covenants then you wouldnt have to worry about the problems that white men have.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      By the time a nonwhite person is 30, he has worked with a white person whom, if they weren’t white, would never be in the position they are in.

      Your statement is based upon two very shaky precepts:

      1) White people take care of their own in the workplace

      2) Negroes in the 18 to 30 range have held down jobs

      llloozozozoozozlllloooozlzllzloool

    • PA says:

      necessity has caused a lot of nonwhite people to amp up their game.

      Au contraire. I’ve yet to see a non-white person with amped-up game. All the problem-solvers, the leaders, all the guys who work late, are white. Non-whites tend toward complacency.

      Additionally, whites must punch above their income weight just to secure a house or an apartment. Every white person’s college / post-college experience is the same: look through for-rent ads. Right off the bat all the ads below a certain (affordable) amount are understood as non-options.

      America subjects its white population, younger ones in particular, to pressures that UN Charter for Human Rights classifies as genocide.

      Our game is plenty amped. Quietly, like a slow-rising wave.

      • thwack says:

        PA
        necessity has caused a lot of nonwhite people to amp up their game.

        Au contraire. I’ve yet to see a non-white person with amped-up game. All the problem-solvers, the leaders, all the guys who work late, are white. Non-whites tend toward complacency.
        ————-
        Bla bla bla….

        But the key is:

        Under no circumstances do you want to be nonwhite.

        Thats they key; that white classification is still the gold standard everywhere in the known universe.

        With all you said about the “suffering of the white man…” you are clear about wanting to be a white person.

        *note to nonwhite people*

        When a person identifies themselves as a “white person” they are informing you of their knowledge of AND position in the power dynamic (white supremacy)

        This is why white people are often reluctant to answer “yes” when you ask them:

        “are you a white person?”

        Try it, and you can see for yourself.

        • corvinus says:

          Grass is greener and all that, I guess.

        • Greg Eliot says:

          When a person identifies themselves as a “white person” they are informing you of their knowledge of AND position in the power dynamic (white supremacy)

          Well, when those job applications asked for race and had White as a choice, I was going to put down White Supreme, but thought discretion the better part of valor. :rolleyes:

          This is why white people are often reluctant to answer “yes” when you ask them:

          “are you a white person?”

          Reluctant? What sort of SWPL dishrags, exactly, do you hang around with?

          Anyone I know, when posed with that question, merely gives an incredulous look and replies something along the lines of “What are you, f#@king blind?

          • thwack says:

            Greg Eliot
            “Reluctant? What sort of SWPL dishrags, exactly, do you hang around with?

            Anyone I know, when posed with that question, merely gives an incredulous look and replies something along the lines of “What are you, f#@king blind?
            ——————
            Right!

            LOL

            Its the same reaction you would have if your boss came around on payday handing out paychecks and took one look at you and said, “do you work here?”

            “fuck yeah I work here, gimme my God damn check!”

          • Greg Eliot says:

            That’s why I opt for direct deposit.

          • Turbo says:

            Thwack’s comments are based on what he thinks is reality, not what it actually is. He’s never actually met a white person, much less had a social interaction with one.

  41. Anonymous says:

    Western feminists chose this mangina’s photo as the “best” for this year:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/prostitute-portrait-wins-world-press-photo-contest-article-1.1199942

    What he and his voters are openly trying to say with this photo is that east european women all look like this and they are “victims” of western men who make them this way.

    American left wing newspapers and funded websites like Gawker, Salon (that just outed general Petraeus, are getting worse and worse with their open hatred of the older white male.

  42. It seems that the vast majority of red pill men are Republican. Does anyone care to take a crack on why this may be?

    • King A (Matthew King) says:

      There are a couple of leftists on this board who will challenge this idea or dismiss it as irrelevant. There are other libertarians, CH included, who will claim party affiliation to be beneath them.

      Conservatism in a liberal democratic republic (all in the classical sense, not the Newspeak modern sense) such as ours means we are the partisans of liberty. Liberty requires responsibility and a robust defense of its prerogatives. In other words, it requires manliness, just as striking out for the frontier required it. The courage to demand and maintain one’s liberty is identical to the courage of taking the red pill. Notwithstanding the loud outliers who often post here, the overlap of constituencies is almost total.

      The outliers are the exceptions that prove the rule: their understanding of game and their understanding of politics arrived along separate tracks, and so they have not reached back far enough in their formation to understand where they must converge. For the rest of us, game is manliness is politics is liberty is culture is war.

      As for those who fancy themselves sophisticated for rejecting the Republican label, they are simply not familiar with the limited function of parties and, like the leftists, mistake politics for an all-encompassing faith. In other words, they imagine that aligning with someone who shares seven of ten policy preferences is a 30% betrayal. Unfortunately, without the organizing principle of malleable party goals (e.g., Democrats dominated the south for a hundred years), you are reduced to a Ron Paulist/Ralph Naderite/Ross Perotian rump.

      You are foolish expending your electoral energy attempting to destroy what amounts to a neutral party system. Rather, you must work within a “big tent,” assemble intramural pluralities, and rely upon federalist strategies to make your preferences real. The NRA shows the way: by working through statehouses and assemblies, they eliminated what used to be a controversial national issue to their advantage by operating under the radar.

      Matt

      • Epoche* says:

        I think the problem is now beyond that. I think we should be searching now for ways for people to segregate themselves economically and socially.

      • Agreed save the NRA is now history. Obama will by fiat (Signing the UN Small Arms Treaty) eradicate the Second Amendment and simply seize all guns held by private people. The weakness of the party system is that it can by hijacked by massive cheating and thuggery. See Obama. I have no doubt Roberts is banging his 20 something law clerk (and yes, most young women ARE sluts, see Lewinsky, Monica and Levy, Chandra) which is what Obama has on him. So no, the Constitution is just a piece of paper.

        That’s the end point. No politics. Because there are no checks and balances. Whatever the NRA did, it was just a delaying tactic. Supremes have held treaties over-ride the Constitution. Obama has no checks.

        • thwack says:

          Oh I get it; you can’t keep guns out of the hands of niggers but you can disarm white people?

          I know white people that can make their own gun FACTORY and their own ammunition.

          Matter of fact, what ever you need, I know a white person that can make it for you.

        • Mr Pointyface says:

          Want to bet, with a specific date for your imaginary “fiat”? Put your money where your mouth is. I expect resounding silence from you.

      • Jason says:

        The word “economics” doesn’t appear once in this entire pro-Republican screed.

        Typical blindness.

    • corvinus says:

      I’m a Republican, and usually vote for Republicans, with the exception of the presidential candidate because the Republican Establishment always nominates neocon tools: Bush, McCain, and now Romney. And I don’t live in a swing state, so it doesn’t matter anyway to those of you who prefer voting for the lesser of two evils.

  43. Anon says:

    What are Ch thoughts on gay marriage?

    I’m hearing more and more about this crap. And it strikes me as the icing on a big pile of shit. Feminism, cultural marxism and genocidal immigration fucked up everything. Gay rights are like the ultimate acknowledgement of such a state of extreme beyond redemption fuckery.

    Whites are fools. And we deserve to be wiped out.

    • corvinus says:

      If stupid lumpenwhites have been persuaded that Diversity and nonwhite immigration is Good, it’s not that far a stretch for them to decide that two people who share a certain paraphilia should be encouraged to indulge in it and treated the same as normal people.

  44. My friend Craig says:

    YES! Meltdown! Will the schadenfruits of this election never end? Your tears, num num num.

  45. Anonymous says:

    A letter to the editor of the NY Beta Times is from a cuckold writing about an important government official sleeping with his wife

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/magazine/a-message-from-beyond.html

  46. Rum says:

    The NRA is not the important player nowadays as the protector of 2nd Amendment Rights. Instead,it is really the internet. A vast amount of information is available that discredits the notions behind gun control.
    Where I live, the most popular gun system is a variant of an AR which happens to have superb long range accuracy, especially with high quality tactic sights. It is about all anyone is buying these days if they can afford it.. It does everything better. And, how shall I put it… they are also good for hunting deer.
    Millions of guys out there have recently come to regard a lot of suggested gun laws as nothing more or less than treason in action. Law Enforcement, at every level,is hyper-aware of this and share at least somewhat in that same feeling..

  47. Lucky White Male says:

    CH,

    I can tell from your reaction post-election you are indeed a guy with a backbone.

    I too, like you tweeted, do not want to live among white proles. I desire and want the good things in life, and can get them, due to a higher IQ and ambition – what many of us share on this board.

    At the same time, I do not feel the need to gratitulously abuse white proles. And I like being around guys with a backbone who refuse to kowtow to this PC mindfuck.

    MacDonald has a must read piece at the Observer on the election: it DOES all come down to race, basically anti-white animus.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/11/disenfranchised-white-males-time-for-secession/#more-16758

  48. Hans says:

    This hambeast is oh so close to swallowing the red pill of evo psych.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X25YFnVs7Y

  49. Ugly Truth #1 – deliberately needy people (welfare zombies, minorities, etc) deliberately “set up” the productive class (smart vibrant men) to be the bad guys. its emotional blackmail writ large

    Example 1 the “virgin wife” in the thread “reformed beta of the month” wanted to talk about her slutty past near her husband and wanted him to divorce her so that she could get the house AND play the victim in doing so…she wanted him to pull the trigger and look bad in front of his own kids….

    there is just no way she would risk having that conversation in her house otherwise….

  50. Marcellus says:

    Lol, the REAL UGLY TRUTH is that crime is just a consequence of lack of pussy.

    In extension to this lemma is: ALL HUMAN MISERY is a direct consequence of the lack of quality pussy!

    Why do men go to war? To find pussy.
    Why do men steal? To buy pussy.
    Why do guys beat their kids? Because their wife is a fat ugly bitch.
    Why is there vandalism? If they could be fucking, they would be fucking.
    Why do some nerds flip out and kill half their high-school? Frustrated because… no pussy.
    Why do gangs attack pedestrians? Frustrated (no pussy).
    Why so much drug use? They want to forget their misery (no pussy).
    Why unemployment? Society has no need any more for ugly unintelligent lowlifes.
    Why so much diseases? Most diseases come from stress -> lack of pussy. Also with artificial monogamous relationships bad dna is able to procreate.
    Why so much accidents due to alcohol? No woman wants them in nightclub.
    …..
    …..
    We just have to face the fact that the 50-50 ratio of men and woman has nothing to do with nature intending monogamy. Only 10%-20% of the men are evolutionary interesting. The 80% others are slaves/soldiers/protectors/builders/engineers. Now we have a society where everything is already solved, those 80% of men are just NOT NEEDED ANYMORE.

    We can end all human misery by just applying birth-control for male babies. Say 1 male for every 10 females….

    Say… we put a heavy tax on families getting male babies, what would happen?
    -Only the rich ones (with good genes) would get more male babies, far more than the lower society. Those babies would have good dna;
    -Those male babies would have plenty of pussy to choose from.
    -After one generation the hot girls (good dna) would have more babies.
    -The males would be happy because they would have a harem of hot woman.
    -The girls would be happy because they have their “alpha male”. Woman have no problem with being in a harem.
    -Because only good dna propagate lots of diseases would just end-> heavy decrease of diseases.
    -All males are happy -> no more war&fighting.
    -There wouldnt be a need for alcohol&drugs.
    -Less pollution because population decreases.

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