Something that gets lost in discussions about seducing women is the speed aspect of the endeavor. Pickup used to be called speed seduction for a reason: it was a human social technology specifically designed to maximize the arousal of women and minimize the time and resource investment needed to bed them.
(For those smart alecks who say “Just be Brad Pitt and you won’t have to do anything to pick up women!”, kindly remind yourselves that famous men usually had to spend many years devoted to their craft before they hit the fame jackpot.)
I knew a guy who was a natural with women — i.e., he had imbued game concepts from an early enough age that the alpha way to act around women came second-nature to him, and his interactions glimmered with unrehearsed élan. Anyhow, something I noticed he often did with women was playfully fuck around with their names. (He never offered his name until he first learned a girl’s name.)
For example, if the girl told him her name was Ann, he would riff a stream of dorky permutations on her name in a deadpan manner.
“annster” “wham bam thank you ann” “ANNdle with care” “this ann is your ann, this ann is my ann”
You need a minimal degree of creativity to pull this off, but the result usually gets the girl smiling. More importantly, it signaled to girls that 1. he didn’t give a shit what they thought about his humor and 2. he was the sort of guy a girl could be instantly friendly toward without feeling awkward.
And really, a big component of successful seductions is the ability to quickly make a girl feel comfortable in your presence — to fast-track familiarity. And the way to do this is to put a girl at ease that you won’t make the mistake of deep-sixing a conversation with social clumsiness borne of low confidence and inexperience spending time with women.
Other FTF tactics he would use included the “Marry, Fuck, Kill” and “If you had to choose…” games, which he would launch into without any proper segue at all.
(“If you had to choose…” is my favorite because it’s awesome at getting girls to reveal their values. “If you had to choose between waking up next to Jonah Hill or waking up next to Charlize Theron, which would you choose?”)
I once asked him half-seriously his secret to picking up women. He said, “I cut them off.” By that, he meant he would cut off their conversation to inject whatever stupid shit happened to pop into his head (and which, coincidentally, would move the discussion in a more fruitful sexual direction). “But isn’t that rude?” “Nah, not to girls. Guys would think it was rude, but guys aren’t girls.”
Words to live by.
Seduction is the art and science (the artence) of shifting a girl’s perception of you from faceless beta null entity to damn-this-dark-triad-jerk-would-fit-nicely-between-my-legs. The words you choose and the demeanor you adopt go a long way to helping, or hindering, your pickup efficiency.
Groan. The name thing reminds me of Rob Schneider’s dorky Xerox-room guy from SNL back in the day. I suppose it’s posssible to do that in a cooler way, but still.
M/F/K, in addition to being an effective convo/pickup routine, is also a way to glean a woman’s taste in men, at least those around that bnar and in her current frame of mind: M/F/K = beta/alpha/omega.
The interrupting and conversation-redirecting show dominance and aloofness, but also can be rude- the key (as noted) is to do it in a funny way but also a way that reads/is sensitive to her mood and personality.
haurice said
For those smart alecks who say “Just be Brad Pitt and you won’t have to do anything to pick up women!”
More Ice, you beat me to it. Does it matter I was plannin’ on using Jonny Depp this time?
its offtopic havnt read the post yet but: does anybody know of happy (for reals) familys, real love around ya. real love aka good parenting and love for childrens. it kinda bothers me that game has nothing to do with it. and therefore the world we live in is a dysytopia dysgenia dys and that. the way i see it heartiste gonna spend the ww3 end of the world as we know it in some bunker. hmm mb gbfm will post and say what to do not doomsay. leaderships, not arcs l0l.
You hit on an underappreciated aspect of the kind of fellows who gravitate toward PUA conversation. I’d be willing to bet a large part of their “dark” cynicism derives from growing up in the divorce culture. Seeing their beta dad fucked over by an alpha cad makes a deep impression about the possibilities and limits of human nature. Likewise, seeing their slutmom fuck up her life with hypergamy leaves a similar mark.
But I’m not much on psychoanalysis, so take it fwiw. Suffice it to say, I’m not as sour about the future because my rock-solid, kick-ass family — from grandparents to uncles to siblings and now post-millennial children, all anchored by my parents at the heart of it — was absolutely indispensable to making me the well-adjusted and successful man I am today. So indispensable that I have grave doubts any child can ever fully overcome divorce, much less all the baggage that attends it (cheating, fighting, prepubescent rupture prior to the capacity to fathom it, affection turned into manipulation, becoming a pawn between parents, etc.). Maybe I’m mistaken. Call it a prejudice against the psychologically damaged spawn of broken homes.
“Does anybody know of happy (for reals) families?” That seems like a bizarre question to me. Of course we do. We grew up in one. We few, I suppose, we happy few.
Matt
“Guys aren’t girls.” The one thing, above all, you teach. In the immortal words of Karl Marlantes (The Matterhorn): There it is.
hey hey heartistststessss!!! i have been working on my lanaguagagessz and have been postssing more ocoehernetly!!!!
da spearhead mighty speareheead publsiehed some of my commentztztz lzozozozo:
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/05/21/john-scalzi-offers-creative-interpretation-of-white-male-privilege/#comment-150580
Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) May 21, 2012 at 14:02
John Scalzi is part of the Feminist-Fanboy-Fiatocracy. A supposed “writer,” never does he quote nor reference a Great Book nor Classic, as he is not Mn enough to read the Greats. Everything the useful idiot says or does is designed to further the decline of the West in service of the Fiatocracy, while the few, at the top, profit immensely in the massive transfer and destruction of wealth brought about by the Fiatocray’s Industrial-Entitlement Complex.
Imagine a videogame which let one save the girl just as Tucker Max was about to butthext her and tape it secretly. Never would Scalzi/Kokatu approve of such a game, as the fiatocracy’s lifeblood is the desouling of women and future “wives” (vehicles of wealth transfer).
But someday we will realize the videogames which allow one to Man Up and fight for the US Constitution, which the Fiatocracy slams through Kokatu:
http://kotaku.com/5896004/player-encounters-hooker-this-might-be-the-most-epic-video-game-patent-application-ever/gallery/1
Here’s a description of the Noble Game which Kokatu slams as the Fiatocracy must dumb down and debauch all of entirety as it debauches the currency, denying us the Exalted Homeric Culture of Our Fathers:
System and method for creating exalted video games and virtual realities wherein ideas have consequences:
“A video game method and system for creating games where ideas have consequences, incorporating branching paths that correspond to a player’s choices, wherein paths correspond to decisions founded upon ideals, resulting in exalted games with deeper soul and story, enhanced characters and meanings, and exalted gameplay. The classical hero’s journey may be rendered, as the journey hinges on choices pivoting on classical ideals. Ideas that are rendered in word and deed will have consequences in the gameworld. Historical events such as The American Revolution may be brought to life, as players listen to famous speeches and choose sides. As great works of literature and dramatic art center around characters rendering ideals real, both internally and externally, in word and deed, in love and war, the present invention will afford video games that exalt the classical soul, as well as the great books, classics, and epic films—past, present, and future.”
1. A method for creating video games and virtual realities wherein ideas have consequences.
2. The method in claim 1 where said ideas are rooted in classical, epic precepts such as those found in the Great Books and Classics, and exalted at the pinnacles of Western culture and history.
3. The method in claim 1 where said ideas are manifested in the words the player or non-player characters, write, speak, read, disseminate, congregate about, fight for, and/or associate with.
4. The method in claim 1 where said ideas are manifested in the actions the player, non-player characters, and/or monsters act out.
5. The method in claim 1 where said ideas spread like viruses, by being spoken, written, or disseminated in some other manner, transforming characters who come in contact with said ideas into vampires, zombies, or other forms of monsters.
6. The method in claim 1 where said ideas spread like viruses, by being spoken, written, or disseminated in some other manner, transforming characters who come in contact with said ideas into vampires, zombies, or other forms of monsters, and where said vampires, zombies, and monsters may be saved or converted back to normal by coming in contact with ideas that oppose the ideas that made them vampires, zombies, and other forms of monsters.
7. The method in claim 1 where said ideas must be fought for via words and dialogue, before they have exalted consequences.
8. The method in claim 1 where said ideas must be fought for via deeds and actions, before they have exalted consequences.
9. The method in claim 1 where the player can fight for said ideas in word and deed, and witness the exalted consequences of those ideals, including liberty, freedom, and justice, when they succeed, and the dire consequences of tyranny, domination, and intimidation, when they fail to render exalted ideas, as ideas have consequences.
10. The method in claim 1 where the character can fight for said ideas such as marriage, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and right to life in word and deed, and witness the exalted consequences of those ideals, including a stable and enduring society should they succeed, and a declining, bankrupt civilization, should they fail.
11. The method in claim 1 where the character can battle for said ideas that are based upon classical moral and economic principles of famous philosophers, prophets, poets, statesmen, and economists including Plato, Moses, Jesus, Gandhi Sun Tzu, Buda, Jefferson, Aristotle, F. A. Hayek, Martin Luther King Jr., Homer, Ludwig Von Mises, Adam Smith, and others, and witness the consequences of both their success and failure of their battle, as the consequences are rendered in the game’s physical world.
12. The method in claim 1 where the character can battle for said ideas via both word and deed, using a combination of words and action, witnessing the consequences of their balance between word and deed, between reasoning and partaking in violence, thusly bringing to life epic classical works of film and literature wherein the hero must balance word and deed.
13. The method in claim 1 where fighting for said ideas in word and/or deed will have consequences regarding the operation of a weapon, which will operate at its full potential for the players and characters who are the most successful in serving ideals and ideas, and rendering them in word and deed.
14. The method in claim 1 wherein said ideas may be based upon Constitutional ideals and ideas underlying the American Founding, including the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, sound currency, the right to bear arms, the freedom of speech, the right of the artist, author, and inventor to own their creations and inventions; and wherein the player could fight for sound money in word and deed and witness the consequences of their successes and failures, including liberty, wealth creation, capitalism, freedom, private property, peace, and prosperity or rapid inflation, deflation, theft via the inflation tax, massive debt, empire, long lines, wealth transfer to the rich, depressions, corruption, and war.
15. The method in claim 1 where the said ideas will be supported or opposed by in-game characters, and the player will have to choose how to interact with the said in-game characters, based on their ideas, including but not limited to whether or not to befriend them, agree with them, disagree with them, ignore them, recruit them, shoot them, save them, judge them, or forgive them.
16. The method in claim 1 where the said ideas are based upon the pivotal plot points of the great books and classics.
17. The method in claim 1 where said ideas spread like viruses, by being spoken, written, or disseminated in some other manner, transforming characters who come in contact with said ideas into vampires, zombies, or other forms of monsters; and when bad ideas have infected too many in-game characters, the consequences are dire, including the loss of life, liberty, happiness, freedom, and security.
18. The method in claim 1 wherein said ideas may be related to economics and monetary policy, and wherein the player could fight for sound money in words echoing the classical economists and deed and witness the consequences of their successes and failures, including liberty, freedom, peace and prosperity or rapid inflation, deflation, theft via the inflation tax, massive debt, empire, long lines, depressions, corruption, and war.
19. The method in claim 1 wherein moral ideas have moral consequences in the evolution of the gameworld.
20. The method in claim 1 where said ideas in the video game world are founded upon the natural ideas and ideals occurring at the plot points in great works of literature and film where a character must choose whether to serve an ideal or not serve an ideal, thusly rendering or not rendering ideals real by their actions, and influencing the greater outcome and state of the game world, as ideas have consequences.
21. The method in claim 1 where said ideas in the video game world are used to exalt the classic hero’s journey, and where a player’s success and progress at every stage or step or plot point of said hero’s journey is defined by said player’s service or disservice to said ideas and ideals, and where by said player’s serving said ideas and classical ideals, said hero’s journey advances towards ultimate victory and triumph, while by said character’s failing to serve said ideas and classical ideals, progress in said hero’s journey is retarded or reversed.
zlzoozzlz now dat would be a videogegamez!!! i woul dplay on xbox live with kay hymowitz tits and bill beenneete!!! we could all man up and figt for da us cocns cocntshistutssutionz!!!!
and save owmenz from getting butethed buttehxed by da fiatocc9cy;s buttehextters! lzozozlzo
Are you feeling okay? That was readable.
Or are you just lulling (llzlolling) them to sleep before you pounce with your full-blown, backspace-allergic llzollapalooza?
Dear King A,
I would like to let everyone know that I recently lost the Aderoll/Ritalin prescription the School Nurse prescribed be back in fourth grade when I asked, “Is it moral for the Federal Reserve banking cartel to print money and place the world in debt while the rest of us is supposed to work for for that money and pay taxes on it?”
I got sent to the office and drugged up.
But for the past few days I have been off my prescription, so da lzozozozzlzllzozllzozlosszlzozo and tremors have not been afflicting me quite as much lzozozzoz.
I have been waiting for The Spearhead to start pursuing exalted cultural issues that are dear to the heart of GBFM.
Yesterday I came across a post here quoting my good friend Tacitus.
Today I came across a post taking on one of the fiatocracy’s postmodern feminist-fanboy “authors” who merely exist to debauch, displace, and degrade the exalted context of the Great Books for Men.
Books are those faithful mirrors that reflect to our mind the minds of sages and heroes. –Edward Gibbon
Thomas Jefferson stated, “as we advance in life, they all fall off one by one, until one is left with Virgil and Homer, and perhaps Homer alone.” In his younger, clean-shaven years, Abraham Lincoln carried around a copy of Homer’s Iliad, and during his presidency he traveled with a well-worn copy of Shakespeare. Joseph Campbell tells us why we ought read the Greats—for they are the greatest possible mentors:
Furthermore, we have not even to risk the adventure alone; for the heroes of all time have gone before us, the labyrinth is fully known; we have only to follow the thread of the hero-path. And where we had thought to find an abomination, we shall find a god; where we had thought to slay another, we shall slay ourselves; where we had thought to travel outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence; where we had thought to be alone, we shall be with all the world. — Joseph Campbell
On a common journey we are all called. Without Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey, Virgil would have never penned the Aeneid, nor gone on to lead Dante through The Inferno and mentor Thomas Jefferson and Ludwig von Mises. In his later years Jefferson wrote, “as we advance in life these things fall off one by one, and I suspect we are left with only Homer and Virgil, perhaps with only Homer alone,” and Mises adopted Virgil’s “Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior Ito (Do not yield to misfortunes, but advance more boldly to meet them),” as his lifelong motto—words which formed the heroic premise of Austrian economics, echoing its poetic, moral premise of “Natural Rights, truth, morality, and justice in economics.” Dante’s journey in turn inspired the “Gold 45 Revolver/Ideas Have Consequences/Moral Premise” videogame research, alongside the Beatrice Game Engine and DantesInfernoGame.com, wherein Dante the poet must “boldy advance” through hell to regain Beatrice in Paradisio. Ultimately the Odyssey and Divine Comedy are love stories—the heroic rendering of ideals real so as to gain goddesses of heroic character. And if they are to become epic art and inspire a renaissance, tomorrow’s films, novels, and videogames must follow the classics’ lead. Oscar Wilde reminds us that life imitates art, and when we are allowed to battle for Constitutional ideals in modern novels, films, and videogames—for love, honor, and epic romance—for faith and the family—perhaps we will regain these entities in real life.
While oceans and eras dvide us, classical, epic mythology unites us; as we find that East meets West upon the higher peaks of the human soul, where our better angels gather. The Buddha, Jesus, and Dante all resisted three temptations before embarking on their higher journeys; and all three journeys exalted truth, humility, love, and service over greed and avarice—over the seven deadly sins so eloquently rendered by Dante during his descent.
As sure as Virgil lead Dante, Homer mentored Virgil, and Mises and Jefferson saluted Virgil and Homer, we ride with them all. The Greats are mentors of the immortal soul with whom I journey forth with—these are my best friends—these are the most courageous men I have ever met—who never turned tail, who never backed down, who never sold out—those far, far greater than I who I can only hope to aspire towards.
Come join us–we happy, we few–come join the riders of the immortal soul. For the Renaissance awaits.
I look forward to speaking with the human being. I always thought you had interesting (if obsessive) ideas. And the fact that you express them here tells me you understand that the fight will be fought on this turf. It doesn’t matter what the war is about if there are no more men to fight it. That, and the scandalous fact that so few boys understand the answers are already there in the classics, repeated again and again and again for those with eyes to read them.
I appreciate someone who is conversant in the “best that has been thought and said,” now that you can properly be called “conversant.” We have a generation of ignoramuses raised on the “wisdom” of Harriet Tubman and Chief Joseph. The remedial teaching required just to have an adult conversation is exhausting.
Though you were tongue-and-cheek about the meds, not all of them are an evil. Yes we overprescribe, but I have seen them work miracles in the naturally chemically unbalanced. For the rest, it is just replacing one addiction with another, while tragically muting the dangerous spirit that used to produce great art.
Matt
Dear King A,
I would like to let everyone know that I recently lost the Aderoll/Ritalin prescription the School Nurse prescribed be back in fourth grade when I asked, “Is it moral for the Federal Reserve banking cartel to print money and place the world in debt while the rest of us is supposed to work for for that money and pay taxes on it?”
I got sent to the office and drugged up.
But for the past few days I have been off my prescription, so da lzozozozzlzllzozllzozlosszlzozo and tremors have not been afflicting me quite as much lzozozzoz.
King A (Matthew King)
Are you feeling okay? That was readable.
Readable, for an economist
About as helpful
too!.
Readable, for an economist
Baby steps.
Well,
no one
does economy
quite like
you.
u
can haz
spanking
The readable part was copy-paste off another blog. Don’t worry, GBFM is still in full-lolzlollzlzm anti-butthex mode.
My friend, dear (R)Evoluzione
Understand I do not require the South Park Version
(in 85 short paragraphs, even)
to comprehend economics
or female wiles
Now, if you want to discuss the preposterous statements there that get “massive upvote”
and GBFM’s deft ignoring of the ultra-realistic videogame mentalities of: “let’s drop a cinderblock on scalzi’s fuckin’ head, man!”
we can talk
Congrats! You’re comment 155,000 something over there. When you guys hit comment #1,555,000 you’ll have earned the right to only have 85% of your wages taken out in alimony.
its not a game its life game s supposed to simplify reality. grasp smaller constructs, mb get a glimpse on bigger pic. but ye black ops is all about putting guns up terrorists ass, poor writing l0l and in civ u research democracy to get better economy or some other ridic shit
Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)
hey hey heartistststessss!!! i have been working on my lanaguagagessz and have been postssing more ocoehernetly!!!!
da spearhead mighty speareheead publsiehed some of my commentztztz lzozozozo:
It was nice of you to moderate your style to fit the speardead cranial capacity.
I mean, worrying about John Scalzi and sci-fi insults is fitting grist for your mill to mock. All that “that OUTRAGEIOUS john scalizi should get a brick on his head!!”
Just like all that 3 years of griping really halted VAWA II dead in it’s tracks. I bet Scalzi is living in fear of being targeted by
The Evil Male Patriarchy or whatever the kids call themselves.
but, keep on lulzin…
lzozolzoozzl
yah da funny thing is wathicng all da ashat fanboyz voting AGAINST a vdeogame that would allow one to fight for the US Constitutsionz lzozlzo
the Men’s Movement neds to look in da mirrioz llzozlzozooz
dey are der own worts enenemeiz zlzlzozozoz
whiners btcherz moanerz alll of dem zlzozo
haha
the men’s “movement” cannot look in a mirror
…they’ll see nothing
staring back at them
better to argue about “Jon Scalizi Sci-Fi OUTRAGE®!”
for the umpteenth time,
even if ya have to dredge up old laurels of
Past Forum Victory! in the Glorious Posting War.
How adorable – and safer – to stick online pins in a mythical VooDoo Doll effigy
and declare “victory” by counting the number of thread “why i oughttas!!!”
While VAWA II
IRL
sails on to victory after REAL victory.
It’s like the King’s Royal Feast Procession marching by a shack of screeching whiners fighting over a picture
of a chicken wing
Good stuff I’m going to try this next time it seems intuitive as to why it would work.
Lately, I’ve refused to give girls my last names which they try to get out of me after the 2nd or 3rd date. At first they act upset but I think it helps my game out as it gives me that mysterious vibe in a sense. I’m not on Facebook, twitter or LinkedIn anymore and I think it drives the few I’ve withheld the last name from to be more intrigued by me.
Think about it, back before game I would give up my last name, date of birth, history, occupation, etc etc in the hope that those qualities and my honest honesty would get the girl to fall for me.
But now. I don’t give them too much other than when it’s time to show vulnerability. What do I do for a living? Oh, I work in sales. How many long-term relationships have I had. Oh, at least…(counting on fingers for 10 seconds) 45! What’s my last name? Sheesh, you probably want to know my social security number and mother’s maiden name to don’t you.
*Swoon*
This may seem obvious as I right but it’s painful sometimes to see guys readily giving up such info to girls when they immediately meet or the first date. The girls I’ve done this kind of thing to usually have their eyes light up in a way because I’m showing them that I don’t care that they don’t hear the answer they want and I’m also retaining some power by not giving up my identity.
When they keep pressing, I just roll my eyes and tell them sorry but I don’t give it up like that on the first night.
Now the trick is to balance that out with real info so they don’t think you’re a killer with a past too hide (disadvantage though?) but I’ve noticed more success when I hesitate and playfully avoid their answer for the time being.
This ties in to your friend above. From reading your post it seemed like he didn’t care what the girls thought of his nicknaming or if they were offended by being cut off. His grievances or annoyances were low on his priority list and that kind of self-centered behavior is probably attractive to women. The fact that you don’t jump into hoops to appease; you are the fucking prize. Worry about their worries later…if at all and if it makes sense to do so.
-Oscar T. Slouch
***My bad for the bad spelling/grammar.
lzozozlzoz yah watch dat speelelingsss you stsusitheadadas schchestkopf! lzozozozoozoz
I once asked him half-seriously his secret to picking up women. He said, “I cut them off.” By that, he meant he would cut off their conversation to inject whatever stupid shit happened to pop into his head (and which, coincidentally, would move the discussion in a more fruitful sexual direction). “But isn’t that rude?” “Nah, not to girls. Guys would think it was rude, but guys aren’t girls.”
I do that a lot, possibly due to genetics since my mom cuts people off too. I’ve been criticized for it repeatedly by my dad and some other family members, but now that I think about it, it hasn’t hurt me with women at all. I’ll relax and start considering it an asset, unless I’m in a straight-laced formal situation. That’s another source of diffidence blown away. Thanks, CH.
This is the bit that would probably work on me. Sometimes it is a relief to have a guy just stop me talking, especially when I am not sure I am saying anything very sensible.
I really like being patronised a bit and this goes well with that vibe.
Dove
“Patronising” goes even better
with patronizing
here in USA
It also meshes well with
hair pulling, riding croppery – and a ballgag.
He can’t pull my hair. It is too short. Don’t mind a spanking though.
Firepower
Picture this:
http://devlinoneill.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/cute5.jpg
That girl is not me of course (I wish). But I look a bit like her. Not as pretty but my legs might be as good. At 5 foot 9 they ought to be OK.
We get the picture.
Check out the guys staring at her and taking pics at the bottom. Their lucky day! Chick looks like she just forgot to put her skirt and panties on. Well I guess she is famous now.
Sorry got confused. Dumb brunette me. I meant this one:
http://www.voyeurweb.com/winners/200907/20090722-111552/index.html
Bottomless slut.
CooingDove
Firepower
Picture this:
http://devlinoneill.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/cute5.jpg
Yummerz.
With your reddened asscheeks and
about-to-pout countenance
you look JUST LIKE
my lil’ sister
I see the comment section didn’t change much in my absence
Deutsch
I see the comment section didn’t change much in my absence
Well, at least it’s got
one more than
your blog
i knew there would be something lol
I meant the other photo. Sorry. The correct one is in moderation. Its the one with the bottomless girl in the crowd.
What do you mean something, gunslingergregi?
Dove
he he he
God, I hate being teased. You bastard.
Come on, what do you mean??
Please.
This dove will coo if you tell her.
Dove
when you grow your hair longer you can send me a pic
I look good with short hair. My boyfriend likes it fine. I look a bit like that girl, except my skin is more ivory and I have blue eyes with my black hair. My boyfriend says my legs are my best feature.
He says he likes the way I look with pale skin and short black hair (head and tail!)
So I guess no pic.
Dove
You win for most “boyfriends” said in one comment but i’ll guarantee if your hair is too short to pull when he is hitting it from behind he is thinking about bob the marine down the street he he he
The only girls who can pull off a short-hair look are those with explosive T&A. In other words, they look good in spite of having short hair, not because of it.
I agree with the above poster that in the wrong hands this can veer too close to Rob Schneider’s SNL routine. But there are other ways to do this. When you get introduced to “Sara,” for example, you can ask “Lee?” and follow up by wondering where the cheesecake is. Etc. Ask Hailey if she uses Comet to clean with…ask Monica if she works in an office..and oval office…
It absolutely depends on the delivery. If you’re grinning like a baboon (“LOOK AT HOW CLEVER MY WORDPLAY IS!!!”), or so much as hint at breaking consistency, you’ve blown it. Maybe 20-25% is the actual cleverness of the content.
The self-conscious delivery makes you look like a clown trying hard to earn her amusement. The deadpan delivery flips the script on its head, first making her wheels spin figuring out whether it’s a joke (absent all the normal non-verbal tells her airhead relies on), then by making her insecure, wondering if she’s not sophisticated enough to get the joke. Grinning at yourself gives it away, so does the twinkle in your eye. In effect you are allowing her the power to judge the humor content of your routine.
Watch comedians. Audiences laugh at delivery and context, not content. And when a chick’s pretty little brain figures out a sophisticated joke all by her pretty little self, she is genuinely excited for her accomplishment and grateful to the teller. I’m at the big girls’ table!
Matt
Any tips on what names to use for Marry/Fuck/Kill?
First timer schlong timer. FMK works like a charm, actually did the field test a couple of weekends back. Got all parties in a goofy pleasant mood. Was doing a decent job countering shit tests from a 5-6 depending on your tastes red head who was shapely with great pert D’s being her only saving grace flaunting them braless like Sue Ellen Mishke. Lolzlolz was following her into the bathroom because she had some Bolivian marching powder and again was confronted with a “why are you following me into the bathroom test” and I just told her to come see me when she is done in timeout. Didn’t hit paydirt but the satisfaction on how to generate the desired responses and more would had been oblivious to me without my older brother showing me the redpill side of things a couple years ago. Still got my work cut out but I feel I’m headed in the righteous direction.
Better response would have been “Because you’re going into the men’s room, and I need to drain the sword. Is there something I should know about you?” said completely straight faced and deadpan.
Haha, that would had been better considering her ever increasing level of cuntiness. I left out the part of the story that this was the afterparty at a hotel room. Couple cases of beer and was with my chick friend and we met up earlier that night with another chick friend of hers who got the room. I was using chick friend as a prop to promote some DHV and she voluntarily invited herself back to the room despite nobody knowing her from Adam. I was following her into the rooms bathroom and was met with her atypical indignant behavior. But I kept my frame in bemused mode and ended up doing the majority of her stash and loved the part when she wore out her welcome with the girls by her rude behavior towards me… hehe I love how girls will mercilessly gang up on dumb cunts like her.
OK. So to sum this all up you didn’t shag some ordinary 5-6 girl.
Nope, can’t win them all despite my escalating and kino; she was just plain insufferable and fancied herself 2 points higher than she really was. My game is not even close to airtight but I’ve done much worse and gotten more favorable results in other past situations. The final straw was her yapping on her phone trying to invite some random guy “friend” up to the room but I got my chick friend and her friend riled up and they basically told her that unless she came back to the room to hang with me than there was no reason for her being there. She got pissed and asked them why they were making her out to be a whore and they gave her the boot there after. Besides I still had a good time and got the majority of her stash and enjoyed the fact that I was not outcome dependant like I have been in the past. I pushed for it of course but it was second nature and didn’t feel contrived or like laborous.
was not outcome dependant like I have been in the past
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you have gotten better then.
“I cut them off”
very important even in boxing: cutting the ring, in the seduction ring it is also important to lead the conversation in your direction. and thanks for the clarification, usually you will have 2nd thoughts about being “rude” but at least its confimed that it is even vital.
“you never listen to me”
you’re doing it right-but that is in LTRs
so its vital in Pickup as well
holy shit. EPIPHANY. Interrupting women = pussy flood. I just realized that i’ve always done this, AND that it’s probably netted me insane amounts of tail. I get bored with women’s inane conversations and interject whatever random funny and/or sexual shit pops into my head without smoothing the transition in the least. The interesting thing is that it’s not that I do it knowing the power it holds – it’s that I genuinely have no patience for conversation that is less amusing and/or witty than the banter that I can come up with. I don’t want to hear about the shoe sale down the street. Fuck you. Few men can keep up with my wit and NO women can. That shit fries circuits.
In short, I lead the conversation where I want it to go and most women respond drippingly…even when it runs counterintuitive to what women SAY they want (a guy who listens, lets them speak first, is polite etc) when I interject “you know who has some nasty fucking cankles? Janet Reno” in the middle of the girl telling me some preposteriously uninteresting story about how her shoe came off at work and it was SO annoying…
Women love to be interrupted by cocky assholes making fun of whatever they do, say, or wear – as long as it’s genuinely playful and fun and not asshole-ish in a butthurt bitter beta way. Concept reinforced.
WAIT A SECOND! could it be? that women do that nonesense on purpose becase they WANT YOU TO INTERUPT THEIR SHIT BECASUE THEY ENJOY IT??
WE’re GENIOUS!!!
LOL
Man of Mystery, I believe you about women’s inane conversation. God, they even bore me sometimes. And I like wit from a guy, but sometimes I can’t keep up with the guys banter and I just end up with this silly smile on my face. I can feel it.
I love hanging around sometimes with smart, funny guys but it can be a bit much sometimes.
I’m sure that you get “insane amounts of tail”
I’m not a woman, so I don’t have a hamster. so sorry.
Men have hamsters too.
[heartiste: sure they do. but the male hamster is much smaller and gets winded more quickly than the female hamster. it’s a difference of degree so large that it might as well be a difference of kind.]
Heartiste, do you have a post on your blog where you explain what exactly female hamster is? I want to know … if I become aware of my hamster I can probably remove him from my brain, can I?
Female rationalization, self deception and solipsism.
Changing topics a lot, yeah by interrupting her, and semi randomly, to non serious but light and people centered topics, and esp. stories, is chick crack.
On another point, I think the key is to share your opinion in an uncaring, I don’t-give-a-shit-what-anyone-thinks way about things without being asked, constantly. For example in conversation dropping “you know what really chaps my ass? People that wear sandals and socks. Fuck that, people that wear sandals period. You’re not jamaican, and it’s not 1990.” Women want talking points on things that don’t really mean much besides being interesting, witty, marginally funny talking points. It’s your job to make sure the conversation’s zeitgeist stays firmly centered on them.
This sums up where society is heading: Man Fathers 30 Children With 11 Women, Wants Bailout http://nation.foxnews.com/weird-stories/2012/05/21/man-fathers-30-children-11-women-wants-bailout
why not just deny that he’s the father and fly far far away:
the end.
on the other hand he wouldnt be able to pass his surname if he does that, but if no other options are available I suggest he make a run for it, then produce 30 more in a different country.
That’s why blacks are growing at 2%+ per year worldwide. They probably would be too in the US if they weren’t getting so many abortions. They’re human dogs. And I’m being generous about the “human” bit. (How many more of this guy’s spawn were aborted? Most likely another 30 or so!)
well, at but I guess my proposal would be much better , since that guy in the link wanted to take your tax payed money to raise his next generation. seriously are you kidding me? but who can blame him, i’d do the same thing if america will give me willingly your money (from taxes) to subsidize for my own shit
She spread her legs for someone who made no promises so she can go find a beta to help her raise the children and her parents can pitch in. Gramma would love to raise the child.
The man is handsome. What’s so wrong with him fathering 30 kids?
[heartiste: you have low standards.]
But this kind of condemnation of the left wing black alpha is precisely what caused the GOP to join the Democrats in turning the screw of mandated child support since the 1980′s when the authoritarian Christians took over the GOP like the libertarians are doing now in reverse.
The whole family court disaster we’re facing now comes from our own condemnation of “irresponsible black men” during the eighties.
“I knew a guy who was a natural with women”
i.e. a man who didn’t give a shit about progressivism, and women loved his jerkish, alluring behavior.
[heartiste: ftfy]
Off Topic – possible reasons for cuckoldry
Why alpha-male baboons allow subordinates sex treats
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18366-why-alphamale-baboons-allow-subordinates-sex-treats.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news
I was on a plane and got seated beside a HB8. It was a 2 hour flight and I immediately started with an indirect opener:
Me: Could they make these seats any smaller…
She was also as tall as me
Me: You’re tall
She smiled and we started talking. I negged and got her interest, then moved quickly into “comfort”.
One way I have found is that running the Cube is a great way to 1) build comfort and 2) demonstrate higher value.
I ran the Cube on her and I then number closed her. I texted her at midnight that night and she replied in 2 seconds.
The one thing the Cube does do is that if she’s attracted she’ll start shit-testing.
The plane game girl was all: “So do you do this to all the girls you meet on planes?”
Me: Yes…all of them….
Me: Yes…all of them….””””’
he’s out of control
My sense of humor always killed my chances with girls. It would always go right over their head and I’d end up with blank expression. Meanwhile some jerk with a second graders level of humor who would just make bad puns and always killed with the girls. I never resented him for it, I would just shake my head at the dimwittedness of the girls.
http://www.bakadesuyo.com/10-ways-science-explains-why-james-bond-is-so
A big part of speed seduction is basically taking someone you’ve just met and creating the feeling in them that they’ve known you for years. A lot of PUA stuff is based around this:
– venue changes (don’t try to just go to dinner then your place. Meet at your place for a sec, then go to dinner, then head to a cozy pub but drop into a convenience store on the way, etc etc THEN go back to your place, each new venue/situation you’re in together solidifies the “us vs the world” feeling)
– The Cube (and similar gimmicks, which make the chick think you know her to her core the way no one else does…the attraction this builds if you pull it off is fucking scary)
– Cold Reads (similar to The Cube but shorter/faster and sometimes negative, either way it’s basically calling someone out on something the way you would a close friend)
– Teasing (the way a brother teases his little sister, it breeds familiarity)
– etc etc etc.
Basically PUAs looked at “what triggers build familiarity and how can we create routines based on this that skip all the in-between stuff and just flip the triggers ASAP?” It’s like people naturally have a giant cluttered room full of light switches spread out all over and PUAs said “fuck walking all the way around the room, let’s put the light switches all on one panel by the entrance”. I’ll build the same connection in an hour at the bar that a normal guy would build with a girl over months or years.
This concept of familiarity goes beyond seduction of women, it’s a good people skill in general. You can use it to get a girl opening up about her bisexual experiences and what color underwear she’s wearing 2 minutes after meeting her, or you can use it to land yourself a job in an interview or free drinks from AMOGs or get help from strangers or help people who are depressed.
I make guy-friends easily because I build a connection with them quickly. Often it’s guys with high status that are intrigued (so I get job offers, invites to stuff, introduced to their social circles, etc) because they’re used to playing the fake-polite-persona game with other high status guys where everyone is kind of bullshitting eachother and you don’t really get to know the other person’s real personality for a while. Then I come in and plow through all that and show I’m not putting on a front (authenticity) so they drop their persona and we connect deeper and faster (no homo) than normal to them which is a surreal experience to them and they grasp at keeping in touch because they know they just ran into something special (no homo lol)
Girls will often tell me “I don’t get it, we’ve just met but it feels like I’ve known you forever…” and guys will tell me “Man I just met you but I can tell you’re a good guy, seriously dude” (which is bro-speak for having a man-crush lol)
I wouldn’t use the name thing myself but Russel Brand does it in the middle of an interview with Carrie Keegan on YouTube. She already likes him in it though so he can say/do anything and she loves it.
… taking someone you’ve just met and creating the feeling in them that they’ve known you for years.
Very well put. It should be a maxim.
What the heck is “The Cube” and “Cold Reads”?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+cube+pua
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cold+reading+pua
Why don’t you have your own blog already? Your comments are some of the most concise, informative pieces of content on here.
http://gma.yahoo.com/jersey-woman-she-fired-being-too-busty-015114881–abc-news-topstories.html
Gloria Allred is at again!
“When my supervisors suggested that I tape down my breasts, I asked ‘Are you kidding me?’” Odes said. “The supervisor said, ‘Just cover up a little more.’”
The female supervisor then walked over to a closet, pulled out a bright red bathrobe decorated with pictures of guitars, and told Odes to put it on, she said.
“The treatment was discriminatory, profoundly humiliating and unlawful,” Allred said.
Woman dates prisoner, gets his name tattooed on his forehead:
http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/tz45c/she_chosepoorly/c4qynmk
dam paul that dude been in jail for 17 years shit
lent a car to someb0ody that was aquited of murdering somebody da fuc
why i like the muslims execution is not punishment for the murderers but mercy on the occasional innocent.
that tattoo shit though your name on a chick hell yea that’s when ya know you are doing it right lol
Stressed men — i.e. beta males — are more social. When you’re in a bind, you want allies.
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if i end up having to handle my business it will be me alone
Heartiste–
From your Twitter, because there’s not other place to ask, what is “disparate ability”?