SUWEE protests:
Women don’t seem like they are genuinely attracted to beta males when they aren’t ovulating. At best they are just nonchalant toward them, and only seem to want a long term relationship with them for a chance to cheat with the alpha and have the chump beta raise the kid. Women seem to think like this- “Ugh im not attracted to this stupid beta but ill let him hit it once in a while if he provides for me and my bastard spawn.”
It’s best to think of alpha and beta males, and women’s mismatched desire for each, as residing along a continuum, rather than as discrete variables. When I explain that during the three weeks a woman is not ovulating (and especially during her menstruation) her desire is shifted toward beta provider males, I don’t mean she is suddenly going to be attracted to the opposite of the alpha males she craves when egging out. Instead, I mean she will become more indulgent of men who are somewhat more beta than the last alpha male she banged, or wished to bang, when she was ovulating.
To put this in the simplest terms possible, a woman who is hot enough to bang greater alphas will subconsciously gravitate to lesser alphas as her ovaries power down for three weeks. A plain jane who makes herself receptive to greater betas when ovulating will subconsciously begin to warm to the attentions of lesser betas reading her poetry after her hormones stabilize post-ovulation.
So, no, SUWEE, beta males are not going to suddenly see action for three weeks with the women who aren’t ovulating. What they might see is more receptiveness — more openness — to their sloppy, guileless flirtations from those women.
As far as cuckolding goes, my advice, if you’re worried about that threat, is to cheek swab any tiny gift of god under dark of night and send it to a lab for verification. In the meantime, enjoy your two or three tepid bangs during the three weeks you are reasonably safe from the depredations of your sweet girlfriend’s behavioral modification egg assault and any interloper alpha males who might be conveniently available to her. No, you won’t ever get her to scream “choke the living shit out of me and plunge your divine cock into my tight puckered asshole as far as it’ll go until I’m bleeding tears of exquisite pain ps I saved my incredibly lubricated pussy all for you” like Olivia Munn, but at least you get to wrap up your two minute tenderly administered intimacy sessions scraping your beta peen along her dry vagina walls with twenty minute cuddleramas and a bloated chickflix queue.
Just try not to think about the torrid sexual abandon your sweet snoogumwoogums is capable of unleashing in bed, in the kitchen, in a public restroom, with a better man for that one week her womb can actually bear fruit. Those kinds of thoughts are not helpful to affordable family formation.
ROFLd so true
The choke Olivia quotes are hilarious. Even funnier should be a male-osphere twitter response mirroring all the all-caps advice given to Rihanna regarding Chris Brown. NO NO NO, LEAVE HIM GIRL!!1112123!212 don’t lets him chokez you. lololol..
Anyway…”Just try not to think about the torrid sexual abandon your sweet snoogumwoogums is capable of unleashing in bed, in the kitchen, in a public restroom, with a better man for that one week her womb can actually bear fruit.” Yeah, hang out with a natural and see bitches on their bachelorette party night decide to bang a random stanger. And THAT should clear up the matter, less alphaish doesn’t mean you morph into “surprise I have a penis game” and watch lifetime with her.
For the record I didn’t come up with the “Surprise! I have a penis!” label. Real Social Dynamics (Jeffy specifically if I remember right) coined it a few years back when pickup started exploring more direct game.
It’s a perfect description though.
Someone posted before A.B. Dada !
He must be on one of his international trips to some exotic foreign land…maybe to fund another start-up, or “endow” a writer or artist.
You couldn’t make this shit up….but he does.
OK. Sorry A.B, but that was funny.
lolz
Maybe he is analyzing the personals ads again.
Yes….if memory serves, he sent emails to “thousands” of online profiles, as a part of an alleged experiment.
And yet he can still fund start-up companies in China, jet around the US and the world, deal on HB 9 and 10′s, all while carrying his purse and his Beretta….
….and yet he’s invariably the first person to post here or at Rollo’s site.
A.B. Dada: a unique blend of James Bond…and a keyboard jockey.
Daba is an entertaining character, I don’t care wether he’s fake.
Or he was too busy cleaning his Beretta from all the rounds he discharged in Chicago.
Shit, did he talk about wasting some fools in Chicago once? Do tell.
I don’t know, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had claimed something like that…if memory serves, he claimed in a post on Rollo’s site that his Beretta “wasn’t the only weapon I carry with me, just the one I like best” (or somesuch) — I detected the heady whiff of bullshit when I read the comment.
But no question: he’s an entertaining, albeit strange-looking fucker.
(heartiste–i haven’t read all the archives so i don’t know if you’ve addressed this question.)
isn’t all the angst about personal betrayal (the heartbreak of a cheating alpha’s spouse; the more than corresponding grief of a cuckolded husband if he finds out years later one or more of his kids aren’t his) superseded by the probable eugenic impact on the race?
let’s look at the big picture. that quality mates produce more children is beneficial. the human tragedy and hurt feelings can be avoided by being a lot more discreet and _never_ admitting ‘slipping around”. ban paternity tests, since the damage is in the knowing. maybe that is where improvement is to be made–more persuasive alibis etc. more tolerance of hypocrisy, the vice that pays tribute to virtue.
think of the philandering alpha and the cuckolding wife. both are unwittingly improving the quality of homo sapiens sapiens while thinking they’re only satisfying their base lusts. maybe they should get a medal.
Women cheat with situational alphas.
It’s not that good for the species.
Nice try, cunt.
Meaning that charm and dominance are low heritability traits.
Cunt.
carolyn
For a man looking for the old school concept of “love, family and marriage”, (yes, there are still some of those) your approach is to allow the state and women to completely use and abuse him.
If might work for a while, but eventually men will wise up and there will be less and less families, just single moms and feral men fighting to be alpha (basically reverting back to some ancient animal state).
(BTW some feminist countries already banned paternity tests, in various excuses and in practice to protect cuckloding women.)
Someone else has a better idea:
Say “YES YES YES” to anything a woman suggests.
Then do what you want.
The idea being, you only need to appear beta to her to gain compliance.
I wonder if carolyn realises that’s the behaviour she is aiming for?
ban paternity tests, since the damage is in the knowing. …
think of the philandering alpha and the cuckolding wife. both are unwittingly improving the quality of homo sapiens sapiens….
Yes, because guys with the dark triad traits are so much better than the betas who build civilizations.
Naturally you want paternity tests, so you can have your alpha cock and eat your beta, too. Feminist bitches like you are ruining the world.
That’s true.
So the beta guy should cheat too.
Because you will need intelligent guys in the future.
And you shouldn’t expect spousal support from the husband, since it’s not his kid right?
To make it even funnier, assume he divorces you for your cuckoldry, and marries the woman he was cheating on you with (a man gets more offers when married, from women) …
want to bet that she won’t be happy that you are getting her husband to pay for a child that isn’t his?
Gonna see more “girl-on-girl” violence then.
I wonder who they’ll convict, since regardless of the outcome, female murderers get treated more leniently than men.
It will be good entertainment, that’s for sure.
We could make it a female UFC. Now THAT would be entertaining
“ban paternity tests, since the damage is in the knowing. ”
In one phrase, all the evidence any man needs to always demand paternity testing.
“think of the philandering alpha and the cuckolding wife. both are unwittingly improving the quality of homo sapiens sapiens while thinking they’re only satisfying their base lusts. maybe they should get a medal.”
Lady, go improve the human race on your own dime.
As I have noted before, not all men can be alphas, but no man has to be a victim of women just like you. With no fault divorce, any man who marries is taking a huge risk, and any man who doesn’t paternity test is a fool.
Hopefully, you will end up improving the genetics of the human race raising your bastards behind a dumpster, after our government stops pretending it has anymore money left to give to single mothers raising “alpha” spawn. Then, while you are scratching a hole in the ground to take a dump or bending over an open pit latrine (like 80% of subsaharans, for example) you can reflect on what improvements are needed in the genetic makeup of the human race.
Your’re a troll, aren’t you?
no. i wrote that kiddingly. i should have made it plain.
Once called on it, it was just a joke.
Woman, the trouble with humor is… IT HAS TO BE FUNNY!!!
Duh.
About the eugenics of screwing alphas:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/6/uganda-government-squabbles-children-die-nodding/
Just some news from one country with a good supply of alpha males. Great eugenics going on. Those people are good at surviving parasitic diseases, that’s for sure, but building outhouse and a modicum of honest government is beyond them.
Sometimes I forget why I don’t read comments from females.
Thanks for reminding me.
Here, I’ll give you the only answer that won’t sound like it’s coming from a man whose girlfriend traded up last week and left him cry-masturbating over the Heartiste archives. Not the official Chateau answer, but it is the correct answer, so get what you can out of it:
Short answer is “it’s complicated.” The quality of life for Homo Sapiens Sapiens is only incidental to their genetic capability to attract mates, and natural, unmitigated sexual selection (the system we’re headed towards now) only enhances traits which aid the individual in the process of sexual selection itself. So when a beautiful girl is bred secretly by a domineering, aggressive man, her children will stand a greater chance of reproductive success than if she reproduced with the chump husband. Whether or not this aids the human race depends on what traits they both carry – there are infinite ways to be alpha, and not all are particularly admirable. He could be jacked and too dumb to take “no” for an answer. Nothing spectacular about those genes.
However, intelligence is a MAJOR attractor, when demonstrated through social acuity, as opposed to systematic, rational, “male” knowledge. You could make a strong argument that, in the society of a creature as social as humans, status depends more on this than on brute strength. If this is how the guy got to her, that’s fantastic. His intelligence genes will be passed on for generations to come, making humanity better.
Obviously, this begs the question of whether specific types of intelligence are genetically heritable, or if general intelligence is heritable and can be applied as needed, to social intelligence, building shit intelligence, hunting intelligence, etc…Let’s be real, you can have an IQ of 185, but if you’re not smart enough to figure out how to turn that into vagina time, you’re not smart enough. This is a very important point that’s generally lost on the racial-IQ crowd, who ironically come out to learn social dynamics without understanding the neurological basis for navigating them. C’est la vie.
Alphas produce better sons, but not better daughters.
Well, that depends on what you consider “better sons”, if by “better sons” you mean pepole who are more likely to have sex, than yeah, they are better than that.
If by “better sons” you mean pepole who invent non-important stuff like, you know, useable electricity, running water, computer, automobiles, and every single piece of technology from the last 500 years – they are not that good at that (on average).
Good point.
Doesn’t this show though, that if the only card a woman has to play is her sex … she’s very likely to have an extensive dating history “dating the wrong guys” and later miraculously being with a nice guy and mere months later popping out a kid?
As an example, paternity testing in Asia seems nonexistent.
Which is already a very grim indicator for men living there.
Dude, don’t compare Asia to the west, in Japan, most of the men are beta, and work 10+ hours a day, but what do their wives do? Sit at home, patiently, and waiting for them to return home, even if the husband goes to a Geisha or something.
Although they have some wierd shit in their cultures, the Japanese enforce social norms like striving to be the best you can, being a “good person”, loyalty and so on, since a very young age, and they keep this tradition as a culture.
I wouldn’t vouch for IQ measuring anything particularly useful, but in the big scheme of things, the intelligence that matters, is the one that optimizes for efficiency in converting limited resources into healthy offspring. “Social acuity” is only useful in an environment of resource abundance, which is always a transitory state. Once the squeeze is on, noone gives a rats ass about how clever you may feel your cocky-funny banter is. All that matters is, can you harvest a larger genetic lineage out of a given plot of “land” than the next guy. If you cannot, you’ll be outbred, and driven off whatever plot you might once have held.
Men see this as the ultimate in betrayal- the equivalent of screwing your sister or best friend in your bed and then telling you clean up the sheets and make the bed. I think paternity testing should be mandatory. I think a woman who does this should be legally exposed to being murdered by the beta husband she disgraced. Besides, you assume all the alphas women would be plotting to have cuckoo children with, are good for society. Read about the two girls in Florida who were dating the same mulatto peice of trash and the one girl murdered the other over him. Most Alphas would not be father material and are in fact shit birds from the standpoint of a functionaing society. Me thinks a guilty conscience is at work here perhaps?
‘Me thinks a guilty conscience is at work here perhaps?’
if you only knew my situation. ahaha ha ha. having 5 kids, the first 4 only 2 years apart, left little time to even think of such shenanigans. or even the subject of cuckoldry academically.
but now i do. there are 3 cases that i know about in people i know (one is certain. the others almost so since no paternity test was administered.) it’s surprising how common it is. there are apparently a lot more sleazy people out there than even i suspected.
[heartiste: any woman who advocates against paternity testing and for keeping beta males in the dark about the origination of their children deserves the wrath of the universe turned on her. then we can begin to show her the light by decriminalizing rape. yes, it’s equivalent.]
I think being cuckolded and then fooled into raising the other man’s spawn is much worse than rape. It’s not over in a few minutes. The only thing maybe comparable is being raped with pregnancy ensuing, while being completely morally opposed to abortion even in such a situation.
i forgot to add that you’re right about paternity testing which will probably be required when it becomes possible to cheaply test prenatally (abortion prescribed for for wrong results). it’ll certainly put the kabosh on that little game.
the trouble right now is the baby’s already arrived when the test is done. now what? there’s a case to be made for the best interests of the child so it’s easy to see why the test is discouraged. i don’t really have a solution to this. just my 2 cents.
If you had a solution for that you’d be “disappeared” by the radfems.
heh. i guess the only solution we have is to continue to exhort the married to behave themselves.
I don’t believe in the best interests of the child. I think the interests of husband and wife are more important — and in this case just the husband, since she’s violated his trust in an incredibly fundamental way.
If he doesn’t divorce her she should give the child for adoption. I’d insist on it IF I was willing to give her another chance. Big if.
Best interest of the child is really used to achieve best interests of the mother, regardless of what she’s done.
Suwee’s an idiot, women don’t “seem” to think like that at all. During those 3 weeks, they’re not thinking about sex. They don’t think in terms of fucking / providing at all. They want to do cute shit and feel a bond with someone for 3 weeks, and get pounded out for one (and it ain’t even that simple.) Nothing wrong with that – it’s just YOUR job to make sure you’re doing both or just the latter, and not get stuck with the shit end of the stick.
LOL @ “bloated chickflix queue.” If you ever watch a chick flick with a girl on purpose and it doesn’t directly result in a threesome with her and elizabeth banks, you are officially fucking beta.
Damn that last paragraph is so hurtful it is almost funny again.
“…two minute tenderly administered intimacy sesssions…” Hit a nerve,there,champ?
Well, that last paragraph is painfully & laughably truthful to me, at least. My eyes show my things I do not like to see, and I can not deny the truth of it. The future of the Earth relies upon Betas never waking up, or “manning” up.
Otherwise we’ll all be eating rats and shit in some post apocalyptic dystopia as betas stop “maintaining the machinery”.
Homo Sapians is a dead end. In perpetual thrall to the female attraction reflex. Not that far removed from Molluscs.
No, actually, the future of the human race depends on betas waking up, locking/killing most of the alphas (like they have done ages ago), putting women “back in the kitchen”, making marriage important again and so on, like it have been for the last 1000 years.
If beta don’t wake up, in 100 years you’ll have every single western country with an average IQ of 80, just like in Lybia and Egypt, killing each other and unable to maintain society, just like in Detroit, all the while the Chinese will laugh and laugh, until they ethniclly cleanse most white pepole (while proably keeping around hot white girls, if there will still be any of these by than).
Five bucks says the Chinese eradicate the coloureds first.
They may just keep a few of us YTs around… if only for the chance to have another Bach come along.
‘Five bucks says the Chinese eradicate the coloureds first.’
i bet you’re right. the chinese are bribing african elites and colonizing fertile and oil-rich countries. and they don’t give a damn about the locals. no ‘white man’s burden’ for them.
when they get numerous enough, the genocide by neglect or otherwise will begin. they will make king leopold of belgium look enlightened.
“all the while the Chinese will laugh and laugh, until they ethniclly cleanse most white pepole (while proably keeping around hot white girls, if there will still be any of these by than).”
You’re giving no credit to the Chinese girls.
Dem dragon ladies be easily offended, their chests heave with disapproval and their lips thin unto angstroms.
WHY do women want to ride the alpha cock carousel when it is quite clear that such relationships will go nowhere for the woman?
I mean, let’s elaborate:
Almost never is there marriage, let alone a relationship waiting at the end of it.
Especially for an 18 – 21 chick with, say, a guy 15 years older in 30s or 40s.
You could say “Pre-selection”: Yes – but pre-selection for what – if the fling clearly isn’t going to go anywhere to begin with.
Wondering what the crowd here thinks about this explanation, from Robert Greene’s description of “Rake” (read: cad alpha) in “Art of Seduction.” :
“A woman strives to be the tender, civilizing force in society, virtuous and decent, and inevitably faces a routine life with a distracted mate. The Rake’s promise of an affair of pure pleasure, an exciting brush with danger and taboo by a pleasant, dashing man who lives only for her – if only for a while is irresistible. Throughout history, the Rake type has been fatal for women”
But then he gives an unusual twist:
“The most common misconception about rakes is that they are cold creatures, who use and discard women at a fantastic rate. In fact, rakes are very emotional, and they are prone to fall deeply in love with a woman.
The problem is that in the course of their lives they will fall in love with hundreds, or in the case of Errol Flynn, thousands of women. A Rake is a machine for falling in love. This can last for a few days, months, or even years. But they fall quickly out of love, as the enchantment wears off and the next prey appears on the horizon.
“Now, most rakes can have a strong effect on certain women. That is because when they fall in love, for that short period, they give themselves over to the woman in a complete manner, one that is rare for a man. This is devastatingly seductive. It also shows the weakness such a man has for a woman.
Using Bill Clinton as an example Greene says: “Women are the first to forgive the foibles of a Clinton, because they understand deep down inside that he is weak, and his weakness is women. And this is charming. So many times, as men, We think women want this boldness, or this alpha demonstration, etc. We end up so wrong.
That is what makes a Rake such a powerful seducer. He is invariably a man who has spent much time with women, understands their psychology (as best as a man can) and yet remains very much a man.
His desire for you is so powerful you have no time to think of the consequences. Intense desire has a distracting power on a woman.”
So the thinking here is this: that part of the appeal to ride the carousel for women is this so-called “Intense Desire of the Alpha”: unusual to a woman, also flattering to her as a female… and, finally, a useful “distraction” for her seducer.
Where I disagree is he’s claiming the desire is real… and not a put on by a PUA. I think it could be a combo of both, or of course — sometimes – just a put on.
Because sex isn’t relationships and relationships are not sex. When will you dweebs ever get that?
“WHY do women want to ride the alpha cock carousel when it is quite clear that such relationships will go nowhere for the woman?”
The basic sex drive exists solely for reproduction, not for cuddling or watching Lifetime movies or relationships. Just because humans have used technology (birth control) and social constructs (relationships) to tamper with reproduction doesn’t change the fact that the sex drives exists for reproduction.
A woman who rides the alpha cock carousel is driven by the instinctive drive to spread her DNA by increasing the probability of having alpha sons who will spread the her DNA far and wide, and alpha daughters who may provide alpha grandsons to spread her DNA far and wide.
Women aspire to alpha cock for a simple reason. The psychological stimulation that comes with dominance directly correlates to a better sexual experience.
It’s not that difficult.
I fall in love with every girl I flirt with, to some extent.
That love might only last for a make out in the bar, or a one night stand, or a few months of being fuckbuddies, or a few years of dating…
But in the time that we’re together, that girl feels like she’s the only girl in the world to me. Even if she heard thru the grapevine that I fucked her friend and sees the picture of my GF on my nightstand and my phone is buzzing with txts from other girls, the way I bring her into my bubble she feels an intense passionate love she can’t resist.
Of course as soon as she leaves my apartment, the next girl feels that same love. It’s all the same on my end.
A lot of guys get into pickup thru a bitter hate for women cause they got burned and that’s how they found the community. And in the more advanced guys a lot of them end up too mindfucked by the things they see and experience women doing once they’ve taken the red pill (hypergamy and cheating and cuckolding and shit) so they get disillusioned and hate women. They’re the guys that call me a hidden white knight or whatever because I like to give girls orgasms and I just accept that girls will lie, cheat, etc without holding any resentment against them for it.
Those guys learn to fake the love over their bitter disillusioned insides, and it works just fine.
But his mind will be in a much healthier headspace when he learns to simply accept women for the flawed creatures they are and protect himself (financially, emotionally, etc). Once that’s solidified you’re free to open up and love women as a whole.
“But his mind will be in a much healthier headspace when he learns to simply accept women for the flawed creatures they are and protect himself (financially, emotionally, etc). Once that’s solidified you’re free to open up and love women as a whole.”
How can you protect yourself emotionally and be free to open up and love women as a whole?
“How can you protect yourself emotionally and be free to open up and love women as a whole?”
You’re opening up what you want her to see.
The idea that people in relationships are always honest with each other is a wonderful fiction.
Most are honest only to the extent that what they are honest about improves trust in the relationship.
If men tell lies, why is it assumed that women don’t?
If women want to marry well, do you think they tell the complete truth about themselves?
If men want to marry well, do you think they tell the complete truth about themselves?
And who defines how honest someone is? Sometimes the reason a person asks a question is not to gain an answer, but to show that they are knowledgeable without having to elaborate on what they’re talking about.
I can express my emotions to you, but at the same time I can understand not to let your judgement or reaction to those emotions affect me to my core.
When you’re beta, you express yourself to seek approval from girls, society, etc. “is it okay for me to feel like this?”
When you’re alpha, you express yourself out of an honesty and unashamed refusal to apologize for who you are. “this is how I feel. You may accept it or not but this is who I am.”
A lot of guys who watch me game are surprised at how honest I am with girls. Why do girls admire singers, artists, etc? Those are guys who are expressing themselves and refusing to let society tell them “your song is gay” or “this painting is stupid” etc.
“I fall in love with every girl I flirt with, to some exent.”
What we really want to know is….do you fall in love with the girls you shit on?
I wouldn’t have wasted my time doing that to her if I didn’t love her to some extent, the aftermath clean-up time was retarded lol
That’s all well and good, but you dropped a bomb on a chick and bragged about it. I gotta wonder about the validity of the stories you tell now and what level of society you come from. That is some trailer trash conduct. At this point, I can’t imagine any of the women you’ve slept with being very desireable, much less loveable. Its kind of like admitting you’re queer, only worse.
Agreed… defecation isn’t on the Good Housekeeping Seal Of Approval list… and won’t be, any time soon…
As far as it being worse than admitting one is queer, well… let’s not go crazy now.
“I gotta wonder about the validity of the stories you tell now and what level of society you come from.”
She’s a hot 22 year old who doesn’t go to bars very often who works as a dental assistant in a financially well-off high-class city, and she can afford to buy sexy dresses from sex shops to wear for me (ie – she’s not a trailer trash bar star in a college town). We fuck stone-cold sober too (even during “the incident”).
You would never ever guess she was as crazy in bed as she is. Her friends have no idea and never will.
“That is some trailer trash conduct.”
That belief is exactly why you will never see this side of girls or be a part of this Matrix-like world that’s going on all around you.
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/the-other-three-weeks/#comment-319490
P.S. Read this comment on another post, since you are exactly the type of guy I’m talking about in this comment and your attitude is exactly what allows me to do the things with women (including your girlfriends, wives, sisters, mothers, etc.) that I do.
Sorry for the mindfuck. I’m sure you’ll reject it anyway since it conflicts with your reality and ultimately limited experience in this particular area of seduction, sexuality, and female psychology.
Doesn’t matter to me ultimately, it’s your sex life. You don’t have to know, understand, or accept that this exists in the world around you to have a satisfying and full-filling life in general. I’m just knocking off the rose-colored glasses for fun since I have more experience than probably 99.9% of Manosphere blog commenters and no one seems to censor me here lol
In a letters column, a guy asks for advice on settling down with a younger woman when he’s in his 50s.
Can’t wait to see what the comments will be: http://www.salon.com/2012/03/07/i_want_to_be_a_codger_dad/
He’s a chump and won’t last with her because he worries about shit like that. Besides, he reads Salon. This is Hugo Schwyzer conduct.
Or maybe he’s saying all the right things to get a response from the most candidates.
After all, you can’t find the “one in a million” without meeting a million.
Wait a second…
WHERE THE FUCK IS KING A ???
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tara-sophia-mohr/sandra-fluke_b_1321935.html
Heh, heh… Orwellian thought control takes the next step… abolish the word ‘slut”.
Damn, man… can’t say ‘nigger’… can’t say ‘slut’… it’s starting to get pretty swell around here… pretty soon a man won’t even be able to spit.
Biology has always been one of my hobbies and it is frightening how many people are absolutely resistant to acknowledging the biological truths relating to humans.
I can understand why the religious resist it.
I can understand why the uneducated resist it.
But the SWPL-Reddit-type crowd, who claim to be rational patrons of the sciences, flat out reject any sort of unpleasant biological truth if it threatens any of their feel-good equalist beliefs.
Heartiste is right. The cuckoldry instinct in females is substantial. Women evolved covert ovulation to cuckold men and extract resources from them. Stop and think about that for a second. This should have huge implications on policy and public discourse but it is just too brutal and dark to be anywhere close to the mainstream.
Since the cat is out of the bag, one of the biggest challenges in mankind’s future will be acknowledging harsh biological realities while still maintaining a working civilization.
Its because their value system is also a sort of religion. Its basically Marxism lite.
One of the greatest revelations the communication age and the rise of the internet has graced men with is the stark, raw understanding of women’s innate sexual pluralism.
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/mrs-hyde/
It is literally written into a woman’s DNA – Acquire Alpha seed, secure long term Beta provisioning.
The more accessible this revelation becomes for Men, the greater the urgency the feminine imperative will feel to scramble and obfuscate their Achilles heel. In other words, the closer men get to the truth, the louder the feminine will screech.
Guys waiting on a girl’s period to get laid is super gay. She’ll fuck you at any time of the month (yes even the same night you meet her) if your game is tight. I had a buddy who was obsessed with trying to figure out the signs a girl is on her period so he could approach blah blah. Fucking retarded.
All that is is ego-protection. You’re waiting for a green light so you can hopefully avoid being rejected. It’s like not approaching until you have a million dollar career or a 6-pack or waiting for the girl to make the first move.
Just approach and tighten your game up. You learn more about game from the difficult sets than the easy ones and you learn more about yourself as a man when you overcome adverse conditions than when you fall ass-backwards into an easy victory.
We’ve all been told the meek would inherit the earth.
But they never told us the earth would be barren, bitter, and past its prime when they got it.
Nice. Christianity can be hella beta, though I’m sure King A could quote some firebrand scripture and defend the faith with his usual … zeal.
If we want to get biblical, I think the nature of women is man’s never-ending book of Job.
With a soupçon of Mesdames Lot and Adam… nicht wahr?
This needs to devolve into a discussion of Olivia Munn’s exposed pics with captions RIGHT NOW, AKA the hottest public “endorsement” of Chateau ideas to date.
A lot of fears get blown out of proportion in these comments. Facts men should keep in mind:
1. On average, women cheat much less than men.
[heartiste: mostly true. I would be careful about using a qualifier like “much less”. recent studies are showing a convergence between men and women’s cheating rates. this is in part due to a general emasculation of the men and concomitant de-feminization of the women in culturally decaying nations.]
2. Women have lower sex drives than men.
[true. but this doesn’t mean women aren’t sexually aggressive when intimate with men they love.]
3. Women are evolutionarily-favored to pair-bond with one mate.
[meta-analysis of studies examining the issue conclude that humanity is primarily monogamous, with polygynous tendencies. this ratio may (probably does) vary by race. women are evolutionarily favored to pair-bond, but also to get impregnated by an alpha cad when beta partner isn’t looking. modern contraceptives mostly thwart the female ideal of cuckoldry and duped beta resource and parental extraction, but the urge still exists.]
4. Cuckolding is very rare statistically.
[see above editorial comment. the rarity of cuckoldry is in dispute, and i have seen figures range from 2%-10% for the general population, and as high as 30% for the self-selected population of men who have reason to doubt paternity. so while cuckoldry may be rare, the incidence of women fucking around with alpha interlopers is likely not as rare.]
Hypergamous impulses are real, as is the female preference for dark triad traits during ovulation. But the good news is that it is possible for women to find both alpha and beta provider traits in the same man. You just have to be able to read them.
[precisely. this is what a lot of game is about.]
If you are having regular sex with your woman, the chance that she is off doing some guy in a bathroom stall is VERY slight.
[heartiste: true. also, to be extra sure of fidelity, be attuned to how much pleasure she is receiving from your carnal ministrations. if she lays there like a dead fish, you may be gazing into the eyes of a woman thinking about some other man.]
Whereas men could do the maid in the morning, the secretary during the day, and the wife at night, women typically will only sleep with one man at a time.
[absolutely correct. and a point we here at CH have been making since day one. it takes an incredibly souldead slut to handle fucking two men at once for any prolonged period of time. those types of women are exceedingly rare.]
On the other hand, when your girlfriend/wife stops sleeping with you, that’s trouble.
[and how do you spell trouble? with a capital I-H-A-V-E-A-H-E-A-D-A-C-H-E.]
1. [heartiste: true. also, to be extra sure of fidelity, be attuned to how much pleasure she is receiving from your carnal ministrations. if she lays there like a dead fish, you may be gazing into the eyes of a woman thinking about some other man.]
Generalizing is difficult because women, by their nature, are capricious.
Some women are just dead fish. Other women get off all the time, no matter who’s fucking them. Unless she’s screaming your name, she could be moaning about George Clooney or the guy in accounts receivable.
On the other hand, a 180 degree change in sexual behavior might be something: the dead fish suddenly enjoying sex. It’s well documented that affairs can increase the cheater’s sex drive within the relationship
2. [absolutely correct. and a point we here at CH have been making since day one. it takes an incredibly souldead slut to handle fucking two men at once for any prolonged period of time. those types of women are exceedingly rare.]
The percentage of women fucking 2 or more men at once is right about the percentage of women who cheat. If they were so rare, Jerry Springer, Maury Povich, and other “Who’s the daddy” shows wouldn’t exist.
After all, all women are soulless creatures. Men are the ones who created the concept of gods, morals, sin, and souls.
Women cheat a shitload but then don’t count it as cheating, and other women back them up:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=131427513&p=622100673&viewfull=1#post622100673
I always suspected this what you ment but thanks for clarifying.
she’s never to blame
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/qluiq/if_my_girlfriend_got_drunk_and_kissed_another_guy/c3ylssn
Reddit: Land of the mangina, home of the beta.
If your girlfriend drinks you have one who is never far from an excuse for poor behaviour.
Then again, if she carries lots of headache or painkiller pills, the same applies.
Just as women snoop through mens’ handphones, men should step up to help women find small articles they’ve misplaced … by upturning the handbag to check for the presence of such medicines.
After a woman’s menstruation begins, when’s the exact day, or week, more or less, when she ovulates?
The average is on the 14th day after menstruation begins but there’s some variation and also for purposes of contraception sperm can live for a few days. As well hormones start amping up before her egg is released. The egg disintegrates on the 18th day on average. For both the purposes of horniness and achieving or avoiding pregnancy the window is basically the 11th through 18th day. Add a day on both sides for safety.
4. Cuckolding is very rare statistically.
In terms of concurrent cuckolding, probably true. However in terms of proactive cuckolding where a woman bears the bastard sprogs of her former Alpha lover and cuckolds the hapless beta provider into parental investment of children not his own – yeah, that’s pretty much rampant.
A workaround for a problem doesn’t eliminate the problem.
‘having to get married’ due to pregnancy still happens a lot. she may lie to a bf that he’s the dad or may not even know herself. this shotgun wedding scenario probably happened much more in the past, pre-roe v. wade.
“Just try not to think about the torrid sexual abandon your sweet snoogumwoogums is capable of unleashing in bed, in the kitchen, in a public restroom, with a better man for that one week her womb can actually bear fruit. Those kinds of thoughts are not helpful to affordable family formation.”
Actually do the opposite of that. Knowing what a woman is capable of blackens the heart and makes one more aloof. More alpha.
Which is why you hear so many girls tell you NAWALT.
They can’t all be not like that.
Is it just me, or do you guys have to read all of these articles twice because you’re laughing through the first read?
Your ability to seamlessly blend humor and bold truth is admirable, Chateau. I applaud.
The other thing I’d throw out is that beta males offer women the ability to emotionally cheat on Alphas during their down time. Bang the Alpah, let the beta read poetry and run their feet without fucking them.
Betas miss out even when shit is there for the taking.