It’s not often we get a photo with two super alphas — representing different male factions — squaring off in friendly admiration rather than combative distrust. But here we have it with Putin and the leader of a Russian motorcycle gang whose name is too long for me to bother spelling out, swapping war stories.
“Comrade leader, I incapacitated five Chechyans last week utilizing nothing but a half-full bottle of wuuudka and a babushka’s hairpin. You would have loved to been there.”
“Alexander, my old friend, we have shared many a ride across the Siberian tundra, have we not? Then you know there is no need for me to tell you that the great shame is the wuuudka you spilled on behalf of the Motherland. Could you not have done the same with some of that Polska shit?”
“Haha, da da, good point, my dear friend!”
“Maybe next time I show you what makes great bear of Russian brother — a polonium tipped umbrella and a 20 year old gymnast!”
Strictly speaking, and in broad terms, Putin is undoubtedly the bigger alpha here. Putin ostensibly runs a country; Alexander the Biker runs a bike gang.
But alpha is often context dependent. Should he so choose, Putin has the fame and power and mystique to clean up with the ladies pretty much wherever he goes, but there are probably some biker bars where Alex is king of the hill and the girls will encircle him as aggressively or moreso than they will Putin. In the cramped quarters of a bar or street gathering, away from the media and cameras, these two men will be judged on more immediate male attractiveness criteria than their ability to pull off power moves in the Politburo.
With that in mind, this moment in time caught in a photo offers a rare glimpse of two fairly equal alphas in a pose-off. Putin, the shorter one, has a clear physical disadvantage in size that deflates some of his alpha allure. But Putin’s solid alpha body language — his ramrod posture, devious grin and straightforward gaze that avoids a betafying crane of the neck upward at the taller Alex — neutralizes his lesser stature.
Meanwhile, Alex’s posture and BL are just as alpha, and his face, too, is etched with a self-satisfied smirk. Interestingly, if you look closely at his eyes, it seems as if Alex is attempting a higher status coup over Putin — or is he offering a small gesture of respect to him? — by refraining from bending his head downward to look at Putin. Only his eyes travel downward to the direction of Putin’s eyes. The impression Alex gives is one of haughtiness.
The other bikers are focused on their leader, although that could just be because he is the one talking at the moment the picture was snapped. It could also be that these men, having been through more crazy shit with Alex, know the depth of his alphaness. Putin’s alphaness they know only from digesting media reports, and from his automatic status as a world leader.
It is that intimacy with Alex’s character that earns their deeper loyalty and admiration. There’s a lesson there.
Yeah, when I saw this picture and thought that there’s a post waiting to happen. Putin being physically overmatched here still comes across very dominant. The problem with this shot is that it’s a single frame of time. Are the biker dude’s hands raised in self defensive beta posture or is he gesturing during his anecdote (or is it that he’s just so tall, his hands look raised compared to Puty Poot)? Putin’s hands are down in an expression of non concern…there’s barely any defensive posturing there and opening one’s self to attack is an alpha thing. Too bad there’s no video because Putin’s posture is admirable, at least in that frame, for how his height and weight disadvantage are not an issue as he maintains I’m the boss frame. Of course, alpha is really about the bitches and it’s really no contest, from what I’ve heard about biker gangs (american, at least), the old school ones are basically open travelling harems, so biker dude gets primoris nox noctis pro totus puella. Putin, on the other hand, has to deal with a slightly more rigid social structure and get his bitches via hunting and gathering.
I too had this premonition! It is nice that we have nice understanding.
Except biker chicks are ugly. Very very ugly.
Russians and slavs, for the most part always seem to be a cut above the rest. I wonder what it is in their culture/genes that makes them so perfectly alpha.
Also, never understood the allure of women to the name Alexander. I’m far from alpha and women frequently point out how they love my name.
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Also, never understood the allure of women to the name Alexander. I’m far from alpha and women frequently point out how they love my name.
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It goes all the way back to Alexander the Great!
Alexander means one who looks down on mankind, from a point of superiority. Maybe that’s why?
Putin isn’t raising his head to look up at Alex, just his eyes. Is that more or less alpha, or just neutral?
That’s why this picture is so interesting, both cats are definitely cool. The biker’s got his adam’s apple exposed while pooty doesn’t – probably because he’d have to arch his head in a supplicating manner. I am thinking that in talking to a taller guy, to stay in alpha posture, maybe tilt head sideways and look up? Or pootin has it right, why bother making eye contact and just stare ahead as biker stares at his dome?
Putin has it right. Tilting the head sideways is a submissive pose. It is asking to be noticed.
Always stand tall, even if you’re short.
But I really don’t trust the short guy with a beret. He’s either a future snitch, or just deeply envious of the leader. Can’t trust him.
He’s got his work cut out for him with that walker.
He’s using a walker, and appears younger than the rest of the people in the inner circle displayed in this photo. The guy to his left has a cane, so it’s possible the injured are present, but in alpha circles merely being hurt doesn’t elevate you to high status. Idiot marks from people using a scope for the first time in the military etc.
His “snitch” body language may be attributed more to alpha toughness such as attending a public meeting with a walker while in extreme pain. My guess is naked ambition not envy is what gives him the intense gaze, if his place in the group is indicative of status and not his injury.
Great pic.
Biker Alpha looks like a frickin’ video game character.
For a breif nano second,seeing the hat and vest,I thought it was Mystery!!
I suspect the biker leader recognizes Putin’s stature and consequently respects him, while the opposite may not necessarily hold true. Putin is more or less a dictator in a capitalist-authoritarian state where democracy is simply a political coating held for the sake of appearance (this is not my opinion; this is the actual nature of Russia’s post-Soviet political structure). The Russian populace likes it this way—historically, it is a nation that has always prided itself on being led by a strong, dictatorial leader. Putin is a God in Russia—he is, in a perfect embodiment of Machiavellian leadership, both loved and feared. To Putin, the biker leader is a cad he could imprison at will; he is toy for amusement. And while the gang members are undoubtedly tough, they recognize the apex of alpha. In a dominance contest, if the gang was ever foolish enough to launch one, Putin would sodomize these underlings of Russian society. Even the best warriors tread lightly under the eyes of the king.
It is possible the the biker gang leader displays signs of respect and admiration towards his national leader, while the other is unlikely. Putin is more or less a dictator in a capitalist-authoritarian state where democracy serves only as a political coating for the sake of appearance (this is not my opinion, but rather the actual nature of Russia’s post-Soviet political structure). His political skills aside, Putin served and reached the leadership of the Russian secret service in his early thirties—his intelligence is matched only by his ruthlessness. The Russian populace likes it this way—historically, they have always been led by a strong, dictatorial leader (Czars, Lenin, and the most powerful of all, J. Stalin). Putin a God in Russia; to him a biker gang is nothing more than momentary amusement; he does not respect or like them since he does not respect or like anyone but himself (thus is nature of the super-alpha). The gang leader, while undoubtedly tough in his experiences and demeanor, recognizes that he stands in the presence of the apex of alpha. Even the greatest warrior would tread lightly under the eyes of the merciless king. There is no contest here. Putin wins. Not by knockout, but by willing forfeit.
Yea, I’m sure Russians just loved grain requisitions and labor camps. All in the name of a strong leader.
You, lads, might want to check with some Russians before reading those two.
IMHO (I’m Russian) if Putin is an alpha than I’m a prima-ballerina of Bolshoi…
Also, read E.T.A. Hoffmann’s (the Nutcracker guy) “Klein Zaches, genannt Zinnober”
Please elaborate, how is Putin not a super alpha?
“Putin, the shorter one, has a clear physical disadvantage in size…”
Putin is a 6th dan black belt in judo and can fuck up 99% of the male population remotely his size.
Just sayin’.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Wait a minute.
See that streetlight in the background.
It’s facing away from Putin, meaning he’s the most alpha. Or something equally as silly and over-analytical.
Looks like Kirk and Khan arguing about whose is the superior intellect.
Putin gets the award here.
That guy is alpha to the core.
Going up head to head with Bush Jr. in a alpha showdown:Putin wins.
“Going up head to head with Bush Jr. in a alpha showdown:Putin wins.”
Laura Bush would win that one.
@MattW-Good question:I never actually thought about that(head down but eyes up).
It’s like Darth Vader and the Emperor taking a meeting.
One is clearly physically superior.
One has supreme command.
[Heartiste: There it is. The comparison I was looking for.]
The real reason is Putin is smug is because he knows James Bond has to take out Jaws first before he can go for the mastermind.
Super Alphas are super alphas.
“Klein Zaches, genannt Zinnober” (“Little Zaches, Great Zinnober”), a story by E. T. A. Hoffmann.
Klein Zaches is a hideous dwarf born to a peasant woman. The fine lady Fräulein von Rosenschön (in reality Fairy Rosa-belverde) passes by and confers on Zaches a magic gift, by which he receives the credit for whatever gracious or pleasing thing is said or done in his presence. He is adopted by a pastor, comes to the university as Herr Zinnober, makes his way at the prince’s court and rises to power and affluence, all at the expense of the meritorious, whose merit he steals.
Here’s your “alpha” in ’94 –
http://larussophobe.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/one-picture-is-worth-a-thousand-screams-3/
You might also want to google Putin’s wife. The only pussy alleged “alpha” was getting before accidentaly becoming a president.
It’s very hard to be a textbook alpha if you live in your mom’s basement. It gets easier if you have your own condo, money, and car. And it gets way easier if you own a palace or run a country.
Putin may have become more alpha with power (and allegedly money), but still, the picture is too isolated a piece of info to judge.
Vladimir Putin is an alpha male at his core. I don’t think there’s many better examples than him. Putin is a 6th degree black belt in judo and a former member of the KGB. Aside from being a world leader and knowing that he gets respect by default, I guarantee a lot of his self confidence comes from the fact that he can kill people with his bare hands if he wanted to.
Watch this video where he meets Obama and watch their body language. It’s obvious Obama is fairly unnerved. Obama was saying not-so-nice things about Putin before hand and he came out praising Putin afterwards, while Putin laughed at some of his comments. Putin wasn’t necessarily rude or disrespectful, but his nature is very intimidating. Both men run very powerful countries and are alpha in their own right, but there’s no making up for his true self confidence.
Wow, watch it muted.
Putin’s body faces forward, Obama’s body faces Putin.
Even when seated, Putin faces the front and Obama faces Putin.
Putin sits relaxed, Obama leans in and is attentive towards Putin.
Putin’s feet are spread and point slightly outward, Obama’s are close and pigeon-toed.
Putin’s hands are open and relaxed, Obama’s are clasped together.
Putin glances over at Obama only when he is finished speaking.
Obama is attentive to Putin’s talking and nods repeatedly (submission).
Putin seems to listen off-hand, and when he does nod, he nods only once.
Putin’s few hand gestures seem dismissive, Obama’s seem more explanatory.
Definitely clear who more naturally dominates, and who does not.
Compare that with Reagan meeting Gorby. You got the feeling Reagan was ready to walk over and kick Gorby’s ass. Sad how we have fallen.
The Russians like savages for leaders because they are (barely) a Tier 2 country (on the 7 point scale)
Taller men always start with an advantage, but Putin shows that rock-solid confidence — in his case, probably both confidence in his own physical prowess (widely-reported badass) and his social status — is enough to hold his own in the “presence” competition. Good lesson there.
Putin looks relaxed. The other guy looks like he’s on his guard.
This is where reputation takes you. Everyone knows who Putin is. I doubt if 1/5th of Russia cares who the other guy is.
Great picture
Like I always say … you can analyze the shit all you want (and it’s fun, love reading it), but at the end of the day you can’t fake it.
Biker dude can have you killed just with a casual finger pointed in your direction. His dudes will cap you in a heartbeat. Putin? Can we say “nuclear arsenal”? No matter how confident you stand, how much you read this (pretty awesome) blog, if you want to climb the ladder of alpha in all its nuances, better go learn some serious ass kicking and practice it in back alleys, make a zillion dollars, bang supermodels.
Having a fat bank roll helps, too. Here’s my advice on getting a $100k+ job that you’re not qualified for, and not do any work while getting paid:
http://two.cedonulli.com/2011/10/how-to-get-a-100k-job/
Putin’s combover is beta
Obama is not Alpha. He’s a thinly disguised down low Black guy who does whatever his harpie wife and chief advisor (Jarrett) tell him to do. No wonder he was intimidated by Putin.
But Putin would not dare pull that tude with Hu Jintao. Who would in turn eat him for breakfast.
Biker dude is a physica Alpha, and possibly a natural one. He will be able to dominate in those areas such as biker bars, bike runs, drug running, prostitution and the like.
Putin may or may not be a natural Alpha, but he strives to be Alpha always. He has an Alpha will, and belongs to the fake it til you make it category
Biker dude is very dominant over a thin slice of society. Putin is dominant, but less so, over a much wider swath.
Obama isn’t alpha. Not at all. He’s almost a textbook example of a beta trying too hard.
You realize that all of Putin photo-ops are staged, right?
Speaking of excellent video analysis, here is one of my own of the Atlantic author who wrote the verbose diatribe about her continued spinsterhood:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789//vp/44902164#44902164
As with all life, the devil is in the details:
1) All of the men at the table, except one, are white knighting to an extreme level. One threatens to call security on the man who is hitting on the the female Atlantic author. The player is the only man holding the torch for men. The other men are constantly attacking and undermining him.
2) The newscaster woman is violently jealous of the Atlantic author’s relatively youthful looks (compared to hers), which puts her in an incredibly irritable state. She deals with this by attacking the men at the table and men in general. She tries to divert attention to herself by any means necessary, such as random insults and one liners.
3) The Atlantic author is an incredibly high testosterone specimen of a female. Her mandible shape is so pronounced that she was probably exposed to more testosterone in utero than the majority of men. Hence, she is unable to commit and pursues sexual variety similar to an unrestrained male cad. This defining characteristic explains her entire personality, and why we can actually believe her when she says “I’m not worried about the biological clock.” This is a female with male impulses. She likely played aggressive contact sports growing up, enjoys sex physically rather than emotionally, and has no desire to have children.
All of this can be gleaned with a trained eye. This woman is not the norm, and nor is she proper mating material for any man desiring to start a family. Her impulses are too strong to control, and would lead to disaster. Avoid committed relationships with such women at all costs.
Furthermore, the rise of high testosterone women is quite likely related to the selection bias many females have for high testosterone males. Testosterone production is not a complete Y-linked trait, as we can clearly with the Atlantic author.
Actually Putin has the size advantage; he is a master of Judo.
Of the biker gang members, who is more alpha? The one with the granny walker, or the one with the neon cane?
Sort of the Jerry’s Kids version of outlaw bikers.
Just because Russia isn’t as rich as most nations doesn’t mean they are lacking in alphatude. In other words, alphatude isn’t absolute, it’s relative. Additionally, there is a man shortage in Russia, which gives great latitude to the men to behave with reckless abandon. And so they do.
Putin may have been beta in the beginning, but he was simply marinating and waiting for an opening. He learned by watching. Clearly this photo proves he is a dominant male. The biker could snap his neck, but the biker also knows Putin could have his entire gang wiped out with a phone call. That’s alpha.
Russia has a GDP but a mere fraction of America’s. But it doesn’t matter in the projection of alpha. Russians love their leader, and he will be President again next year and will remain President until 2024. Sure, they will probably never has as big a GDP as America, but that will not stop them from being a player in the world. With a sex ratio which highly favors men, Russia is the place to be if you want to be a pimp daddy with wild abandon.
Becoming dictator is metamorphosis.
Besides, he’s been massively coached by image experts — who else?
Hey Heartiste: This has got game written all over it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20120123-10391704.html
Winston Churchill didnt lose his virginity until he was 34 when he got married.According to Heartiste’s logic he might as well be a beta.
[Heartiste: Although late life virginity is a leading indicator of betaness, there are exceptions. For instance, an alpha male who *could* bang a lot of women, but for religious or work reasons decides not to.]
Churchill was an Alpha by every measure, as was Teddy Roosevelt. They were hard, commanding, driven men. But both came up in a time when male self-command and sexual self-denial were promoted and respected. Different times, different standards.
Putin has an army behind him. Of course he’s alpha.
If you wish to rule a bunch of violent nihilists, be as alpha as you want.
If you wish to rule a nation, some compromise is required.
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Nice.
I would have like to see Putin and the Biker play out like this
Tyrion Slaps Joffrey For 10 Minutes To Achilles Last Stand
and I must add a quote
Shaggar: How would you like to die, Tyrion, son of Tywin?
Tyrion: In my own bed, at the age of 80, with a belly full of wine and a girls mouth around my cock.
– Game of Thrones
Those slavs… I usually think that american born or russian/ukranian born men raised in america have a really good balance of alpha/beta characteristics when it comes to dating. They might be considered beta because they are very protecting, loving and caring once they really care for you (a lot of calling, date planning, cuddlin blablabla), but a)they don’t take shit from a woman (it’s impossible to shit test them) and b)they don’t pedestalize women.
My sampling again might not be very extensive, but it’s lovely that they don’t have to fake game, they’re just loving and extremely confident.
What’s with the tits on the taller guy. Looks too weird to be muscular pecs. Nice rack for a woman though.
Off-topic, but have you guys seen this? It’s hilarious.
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Let’s not forgot that before he became the political leader of Russia, Putin was a judo black belt & a trained KGB assassin.
Putin can toss the biker on his head & strangle him with his bare hands.
Fascism is so alpha.