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Cheater Red Flags

Recent research has confirmed CH wisdom in the matter of which kinds of women are more likely to cheat.

To help, researchers from Florida State University have identified some of the key predictors for infidelity, based on a three-year-long analysis of the marital behaviours of 233 newlyweds.

Ok, great start, half-decent N. But as usual, the rag doesn’t link to the original study, so I don’t know if this is based on self-report answers. If it is, take the results with a flat of salt.

Surprisingly, they found that those who were satisfied with sex in their relationship were more likely to cheat on their partner, possibly because they “felt more positive about sex in general”, the study suggests.

Pomo poopytalk. This is the high libido effect, which in men means the Coolidge Effect.

Age, attractiveness and sexual history all have a crucial part to play, too, they found. In addition to those who were sexually satisfied in their relationship, younger people and less attractive women were also found to be more likely to be unfaithful.

Options = instability (younger people — really, younger women — have more options, so they have more temptations).

What about the seemingly contradictory finding that less attractive women are higher cheat risks? This is explained by the inherent instability of LSMV partnerships. Plain Janes are usually hitched to boring asexual beta mediocrities who are nonetheless reliable emotional tampons and open wallets. Beautiful women may get more attention (and have more tryst options), but they also are more likely to have a relationship with a high value man who gives them both the alpha fux and the beta bux, tamping down their urge to illicitly merge. Given the sexual market reality of men fucking “across and down” (and women dating “across and up”), it’s not surprising that average looking women would have both access to alpha males willing to pump and dump them *and* the motivation to seek out that exciting extracopulatory affair.

This is why, btw, sluts are more often than not less attractive than their peers. Sluts NEED to be slutty to get laid; no man will invest his energy into an unattractive chaste woman. Men WILL invest in chaste hot babes, because the payoff is so much higher.

And ladies, there’s useful info for you too.

The same was not true for men, who were conversely more likely to cheat when their partners were less attractive.

Men have to find that balance between a less attractive but no muss, no fuss woman, and a more attractive but harder-to-get woman. Men who choose the former are more apt to cheat to fulfill their desire for the latter.

The researchers found that men who had a higher number of short-term sexual relationships prior to marriage were less likely to stay faithful whereas women in this same category were less likely to cheat.

Sociosexuality 101. If you like to fuck around, marriage ain’t gonna stop ya. At best, it might slow ya down. As for the second part of that finding, I call bullshit. Every study I’ve seen to date has found the opposite — that women with lotsa cocksas under their felt prior to marriage were a much greater cheating and divorce risk in marriage.

One plausible explanation for the latter finding that isn’t explored by the researchers: women who had racked up many short-term sexual relationships prior to marriage got married later in life, when their SMV was well into its decline, inhibiting their ability to act on their urge to cheat.

The research did, however, find two techniques which could minimise the chances of infidelity occurring; ‘attentional disengagement’, and ‘evaluative devaluation’ of potential romantic partners.

Those with higher levels of attentional disengagement (avoiding thinking about a potential romantic partner’s attractiveness) and evaluative devaluation (downplaying the potential partner’s attractiveness in their mind) were less likely to cheat.

AKA meta-death.

Ironically, ‘evaluative devaluation’ is a fancy term for an Inner Game technique to help men approach hot babes. Mentally priming oneself to view women as interchangeable makes it easier to hit on any one of them, because “another is always right around the corner”. As Outer Game, evaluative devaluation takes the form of DQs (teasing disqualifications of girls for not meeting your standards), negs about girls’ beauty (“nice eyes, especially the left one”), and self-DQs (“hey now, don’t get the wrong idea, you’re not my type”).

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Update

I located a link to the original study. A couple of additional thoughts I have now that I know better what exactly the study concludes about cheating predictors.

Another predictor of infidelity was attractiveness. A person’s own attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among women but not men—meaning less attractive women were more likely to have an affair.

Like I wrote above, less attractive women are more likely to have settled way below their ideal, which makes alternative romantic possibilities more enticing. Not so for men. Less attractive men are more likely to be in a relationship with the best looking woman they can get; one, because men aim high when they have to sacrifice their natural male urge to polygyny and two, because women are holistic mate assessors and will choose long-term lovers based on a multitude of male SMV factors that include but are far from limited to his physical looks. What this means in practice is that less attractive men are more *grateful* for their main squeezes, and thus less inclined to risk losing it all on an infidelity.

A partner’s attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among men but not women—meaning men were more likely to be unfaithful when their partners were less attractive.

Ok, this is cheating risk assessment based on partner looks rather than one’s own looks. And it comports with CH wisdom: men hitched to hot babes won’t risk losing them to a dalliance (and those men are already getting great sex since male sexual fulfillment is directly proportional to female lover beauty). But men hitched to unattractive women (or to women those men perceive being below the best they can get) will think a lot about cheating with more attractive women.

A person’s history of sex was a predictor of infidelity, too. Men who reported having more short-term sexual partners prior to marriage were more likely to have an affair, while the opposite was true for women.

Another possibility occurred to me that may explain this study’s unintuitive (and stand-alone) finding that women who have more short-term sexual partners prior to marriage were less likely to have a marital affair. It could be simply that these are the lower value women who got pumped and dumped a lot by men, and when they finally found a doting beta to wife them up they were overjoyed at their good fortune and, like the men in LTRs with hot babes, wouldn’t dare risk it all on a momentary illicit fling.

158 Responses to “Cheater Red Flags”

  1. Very nice article, HBomb.

    xxI think a few points bear raising.

    While xxI agree with you about sluts in general, xxI think they are often looking for love and not using the optimum strategy. In university, Xtrabeing knew a girl named Andrea who LOVED him and she was the kind of girl who went to bars looking for a boyfriend, trying to trade her pussy for commitment. That’s a fool’s game, but it’s the only one she knew.

    xxI doubt many women are truly slutty. They’re at best confused about how to get a guy in their lives. The merit of being slutty is its an easy solution that seems to bring about bonding. A lot of women would rather cuddle in a man’s arms after cheap sex than be alone.

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    • Ironsides says:

      Must we start every thread now with the self-congratulatory gibbering of this boggart?

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    • Duddy Jazz says:

      “looking for love and not using the optimum strategy”

      Yes, precisely. They are just being trendy. Hence why, in any time since 1992 there have been good girls mixed up in slůttery. The partner count thing is a boomer heuristic, less suitable for assessing today’s gals.

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    • “I doubt many women are truly slutty.”

      Then you don’t get ass. Run through enough snatch and you’d be able to see the picture clearer.

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      • Duddy Jazz says:

        You think like a woman. You’ve failed to understand the difference between current-state hivemind behaviors and immutable, inherent characteristics.

        If we all thought like you, we’d look at gheťtò rats using iPhågs and conclude that they were all Ted Hoff-tier geniuses.

        We don’t because we aren’t fools.

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    • Southern WASP says:

      No, a lot of them just like to fuck.

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      • trav777 says:

        they all are sluts. Just make peace with it and abandon equalist boomer delusions to the contrary.

        However, they can be faithful. A lot of girls who rack up notches…I’ve had a few that seriously wanted to just be married to me and have that ideal sounding life. They fuck because society has said it’s ok to do so why wouldn’t you? They’re taught that nothing’s wrong with it.

        Women only get bitter when they start to get old and not DESIRED anymore and don’t have a man. The rest is ancillary. They may wake up one day and realize finally that they’re a pump n’ dump.

        College slut young girl life is like an all you can eat dick buffet for them. It’s hard to get someone to opt out when “everyone else” is having all this “fun,” as portrayed by their InstaGay feeds. They get a little older and they are looking to settle down- this is EXACTLY how men used to be, sowing their wild oats then settling down for a family. Once again, feminism pushing women to imitate masculine behaviors.

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      • Duddy Jazz says:

        Water takes the shape of it’s vessal. Walking vaģįnās like YDKP don’t grasp this because they are the water.

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    • Not to mention, many women think a man won’t stick around–and become a boyfriend or husband–without getting sex by the third date. (Wonder where they could have gotten THAT idea.) Most women, except for a brief “experimenting” or “party” phase (and even that is far from the norm) don’t INTEND for sex to be a one-night stand. How can women avoid accumulating a string of pump-and-dumps? Should they withhold sex for a few dates or a few weeks to make sure the man is “sincere”? In recent decades, men have been advised (especially on sites like this) not to wait around–unless they’re looking for “marriage material” (which most young men, sensibly, are not).
      Maybe the comedians are right. Men, women: what a mismatch!

      [CH: it is a pickle (heh) for both sexes. the culture changed, so men had to change with it or be left behind. wherever you want to place the blame, the fact remains that men who wait too long for sex are more likely to get shunted into the friendzone, or ghosted. maybe it wasn’t always like this — the bards tell of a time when women weren’t cock carousel riders spending a decade or longer premaritally hunting for mr right and men could expect a first date had a good chance of leading to marriage and kids — but now that women have complete sexual freedom the rules have shifted to favor men who gun for sex sooner rather than later.]

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  2. Xtrabeing (starofmagic.wordpress.com) says:

    Actually, in that student house, two girls loved my ass: Andrea and Carrie-Ann Whittle. Carrie-Ann, I picked up after dropping a huge thing of soda pop on her and pissing her off. That night C-A and xxI made out for hours on her bed. She later went to Vancouver to come see xxme and try to win xxme over. Fat chance. But back to the earlier time in Waterloo. At some point, the two girls put their heads together and delivered an ultimatum to xxme: which of us do you want. xxI reluctantly picked Carrie-Ann.

    There was a third girl there who must’ve liked me, too, but she was fooling around with a skinny goof with a hairless chest. Hmm. Wonder if I could’ve pulled her, too?

    That’s the university where xxI tried to start my escort service. xxI could link to the student newspaper article, right now, but XXI THINK XXI WON’T. Let’s keep my legal name private, for now.

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  3. […] Cheater Red Flags […]

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  4. This is as good a post as any to say the first time in a while I’ve seen a WM/WW couple in a an ad was a poster at a jewelry store. I guess the jewelry merchants know which side their bread is buttered on…..gotta assauge the white betas who spend the big money on engagement rings. Coulda been a one off tho

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    • ((( the jewelry merchants )))

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      • Xtrabeing (starofmagic.wordpress.com) says:

        Captain Obvious would go psycho if he went to Amsterdam and saw exactly who was polishing all the gems to a finery.

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      • Not that anyone should be buying their lassie an expensive ring in the first place, but avoid diamonds at all costs

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      • Tam the Bam says:

        Gold and garnets. The stone’s the right colour, and if it’s good enough for the King Raedwald, the Bretwalda, it’s good enough for me.
        My mother had a garnet cabuchon in silver she got age 18, all handmade. Never left her hand. She was inconsolable when she lost it (humphing butane canisters on her own in winter, up the (impassable to vehicles) track age 58. It just popped out of the setting and became gravel again).

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      • Tam the Bam says:

        Forgot to mention. Garnets as cheap as chips, but who’s tae ken, eh?

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    • mendo says:

      Reminds me of an old buddy that fell for the “engagement ring = 3 months salary” tripe, even going so far as to preface it with “they say…” (This was before I was hip to the JQ)

      In turn, he hitched himself to a gal that didn’t take his last name on account she had just become a doctor and didn’t want to go through all the legal mumbo jumbo of changing it. At least that was her excuse

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      • Cracker says:

        huge red flag when a woman won’t take her man’s name. no good reason for that. no clearer sign that she doesn’t respect him.

        also, means she’s not as committed or excited about m@rrying him as she should be. she’s holding something back and keeping her name so she won’t have to change it again when they eventually split. and she doesn’t want to become one family with him, uniting in name because her independence and feminist ego is more important to her.

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      • Engagement Ring: Three Months Salary
        Wedding Day: She starts gaining weight
        Divorce and supporting her and her diverse bum boyfriend: Priceless

        A Diamond is Forever. Love still STINKS when you don’t have Game.

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      • MB says:

        There is no way to change your name on your medical license, period.

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      • trav777 says:

        on the flipside, you might not want that crazy bitch associated with your good name either lol

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      • Cracker says:

        true

        i’ll have to take a another look at some of the men i know with wives who didn’t take their names.

        maybe they are smarter than i thought haha

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    • irishsavant says:

      Even here in Ireland three-quarters of ads are mixed race. Are (((they))) trying to actually sell their products?

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  5. Hawk says:

    The slutpocalypse in the West is related to the disintegration of the extended family and the local community starting in the early 20th century (Captain Obvious can illuminate the players).

    IMO the extended family was the lynch pin of societal pressure keeping hypergammy in check.

    This is why I’ve come to believe that the reason women live longer than men was to put grandma rules of conduct upon young girls and te educate them as to the stages of a woman’s life and how to make good choices.

    A girl will always rebel against ger father. I think that the traditional grandma acted as an ally to the father. Given her being post menopausal, the grandmother becomes a crone true, but hormone wise, she’s a man baby.

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    • PA says:

      Yes. Nuclear family is not enough. Geographic mobility doesn’t help.

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    • Captain Obvious says:

      “illuminate the players”

      The one I’ve been reading about lately is (((Wilhelm Reich))) – what a monster he was – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        “As an adult Reich wrote extensively, in his diary, about his sexual precocity. He maintained that his first sexual experience was at the age of four when he tried to have sex with the family maid (with whom he shared a bed), that he would regularly watch the farm animals have sex, that he used a whip handle sexually on the horses while masturbating, and that he had almost daily sexual intercourse from the age of 11 with another of the servants. He wrote of regular visits to brothels, the first when he was 15, and said he was visiting them daily from the age of around 17. He also developed sexual fantasies about his mother, writing when he was 22 that he masturbated while thinking about her.”

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      • Ironsides says:

        Isn’t he the (((wretch))) with the “Sex-Pol” movement — “Sexual Politics?” Which basically tried to use sex to erode nationalism?

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      • Damn Crackers says:

        He developed the Orgone Box and thought you could channel all the orgasms in the world into people to attenuate their health. He was a very naughty boy who thought children should be sexualized at a very early age.

        A young Bernie Sanders was a devout follower.

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    • Mabui says:

      The automobile.
      ” The first social revelation created a sensation out of all proportion to its novelty. As far back as 1915 the unchaperoned young people of the smaller cities had discovered the mobile privacy of that automobile given to young Bill at sixteen to make him “self-reliant.” At first petting was a desperate adventure even under such favorable conditions, but presently confidences were exchanged and the old commandment broke down. As early as 1917 there were references to such sweet and casual dalliance in any number of the Yale Record or the Princeton Tiger. But petting in its more audacious manifestations was confined to the wealthier classes–among other young people the old standard prevailed until after the War, and a kiss meant that a proposal was expected, as young officers in strange cities sometimes discovered to their dismay. Only in 1920 did the veil finally fall–the Jazz Age was in flower.”
      From ‘Echoes of the Jazz Age’ by F Scott Fitzgerald
      Prior to the 1920s middle class courting occurred more often in closer proximity to the extended family. See the Lynd’s study from 1929 “The Automobile and Family Life”.
      Freudian ideas were also discussed and used as an excuse for promiscuity.

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      • Ben Shona says:

        Wow. You mean you’d have the bitch go down on you while her mom,dad and little brother were in the next room?

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  6. Cracker says:

    i agree with the majority of this post but the idea that ugly or less than hot girls cheat because they are with beta losers doesn’t really pan out in my experience.

    more often than not it’s the average or worse girls with a high value man who do it. usually because they know in their hearts they are not the most desirable woman he can get so they need constant validation from him and other men. they cheat to prove to themselves that they still have it. it’s also not a coincidence that they tend to have a long history of slutting it up and being unfaithful to other men as well.

    i’ve been cheated on and have had loyal women. i’m the same man with my girl now (hot) as i was with the cheater (average). she and the hot girls i’ve been with have always been the most loyal.

    average or worse girls who are past sluts (most of them) never get over that need to get attention from multiple men. among many other reasons to prefer hot girls, they don’t have the baggage and aptitude for disloyalty that non-hot girls do.

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    • plumpjack says:

      cracker, you’re onto something here. options = instability probably needs to be correlated with immediate gratification tendencies. not everyone who has unlimited options feels the need to act on them.

      a high time-preference/gimme everything right now! mindset will gravitate towards decisions that yield a more immediate reward, but which have more downsides over the long term. conversely, low time preference/let’s save for the future mindset might be tempted to cheat, but will weigh the consequences of doing so, as well as the consequences of not taking accountability for the choices they’ve made.

      also, how useful can a study about cheating which doesn’t control for race be for understanding our own behavior?

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      • Cracker says:

        “options = instability probably needs to be correlated with immediate gratification tendencies. not everyone who has unlimited options feels the need to act on them.”

        absolutely

        easy to ignore how important a girl’s intelligence, inherent nature, value system. etc is.

        attractiveness isn’t the only factor that dictates whether a girl will cheat

        the examples i gave in another comment are proof of that. i’ve had two different girls in basically the same situation with me.

        one chose to cheat when she was unhappy with me and the other works harder to please and inspire closeness when she feels that way.

        same man, same actions on my part, two different results because one girl was selfish disloyal and only cared about her own needs while the other is mentally healthy and knows how to maintain a relationship and love her man.

        another reason why ex sloots are a big no no. hot, average, or ugly, a girl’s character, level of impulse control, intelligence, etc are probably the most important factors to consider when choosing a girl for anything long term. and ex sloots have proved that they are failures in all those categories.

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    • Mr. Roboto says:

      @ Cracker

      I really appreciate when you share your wisdom about cheating girlfriends. Thanks man !!!

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      • Cracker says:

        my pleasure man. i’ve made plenty of mistakes in life but hope that telling my story can help at least one man avoid the same mistakes i’ve made.

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  7. Jesus H. Christ.

    Tens of millions of dollars are flushed away every year on silly sociological studies to tell us things we already know. Every single one of these studies and the outfits who produce them needs to be shut down. Shut down the faculties, too. Moderin universities and grad shuls are full of thousands of girlz incurring student loans in marshmallow programs like sociology and criminology, or, as the dumb bitchés I attended school with used to call them, “soash” and “crim.” Totally useless degrees for which completely useless fields of employment have been opened up in whcich to steer these girlz like cattle. The girlz who were in these programs were truly some of the dumbest I’ve ever met, including the poorly educated (I love the poorly educated!), sitting around in university for 4 years because they don’t know what else to do in life.

    Anyhow, men’s lust for hot women doesn’t magically vaporurize after slipping on a gold band. if you’re a good-looking guy, or have status, or have both, you’re going to have opportunities to slay women. You might even truly love your wifé, but you still desire hotter, younger, different ass.

    If you’re not handsome, charismatic, or don’t have status, then there’s a lower chance you’ll “””cheat””” (dumb word in my opinion).

    For women, it’s simple. I’ve known hot women; if they have a man who’s higher status than them, it will show. They’ll talk about their husbând like he’s some unassailable Greek god. Their eyes will light up when mentioning his name, they swoon in his presence, and he can do no wrong. They will talk about “my boyfriend” or “my husbând” incessantly.

    If they’re with an average or mediocre guy, they will be blasé about him, and much more open to other (higher-status) men’s advances.

    There’re other factors here like piousness, proximity to targets/predators, etc, but they’re all exceptions to the rule. Outliers.

    There you go. No soash degree required to produce that study.

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    • vfm#7634 says:

      “They’ll talk about their husbând like he’s some unassailable Greek god. Their eyes will light up when mentioning his name, they swoon in his presence, and he can do no wrong.”

      And their eyes get crows’ feet and yang sanpaku too, amirite?

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    • Diversity Is Good says:

      For women, it’s simple. I’ve known hot women; if they have a man who’s higher status than them, it will show. They’ll talk about their husbând like he’s some unassailable Greek god. Their eyes will light up when mentioning his name, they swoon in his presence, and he can do no wrong. They will talk about “my boyfriend” or “my husbând” incessantly.

      If they’re with an average or mediocre guy, they will be blasé about him, and much more open to other (higher-status) men’s advances.

      This is SMV 101, “maintain attraction” topic. Everyone who doesn’t buy pretty lies should know this. That rules out all academics, of course, who buy lies wholesale.

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    • PA says:

      — “””cheat””” (dumb word in my opinion).

      What do you dislike about calling it “cheating”?

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  8. Sanders says:

    One sign to watch out for is when she hits the crazy window of 38-42 yrs old.

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  9. Burwin says:

    OT: “Judge awards $6.7 million to graffiti artists whose work was destroyed to build condos”

    Translation: “Judge orders owner of buildings to pay millions to spray paint vandals”

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/13/us/5pointz-graffiti-artists-award-trnd/index.html

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  10. A lack of consequences also plays a big role.

    People will do what they think what they can get away with or what they are used to getting away with.

    Also, when the law and society protects a female cheater from getting a good solid ass kicking for having cheated and she can also gain cash and prizes should she decide to (no fault) divorce him for having kicked her ass or otherwise; well …. what do you expect will happen?

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    • Cracker says:

      yep, a lot of men will date or w1fe up former cheaters and then stay with them after they do it to them.

      the women will always say it’s the man’s fault too. he didn’t give her enough attention or whatever. no accountability whatsoever. no wonder so many women do it now.

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      • Cracker says:

        also a consequences of trying gf/wife up cock carousel riders. can’t make a whore into a housewife but most men today ignore that timeless advice.

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      • Cracker says:

        speaking from experience here. i was fully red pilled when i met my ex who cheated. but instead of using that be discerning and filter out shit girls, i bought into the idea that with enough game i could make any woman loyal and devoted.

        big mistake

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      • Hawk says:

        My friend got cheated on. He stayed in the marriage for the kid’s sake. She did it again but also embezzled from his company.

        Ultimately, of course, she got custody….

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      • Cracker says:

        figures

        when a woman is a narcissist who isn’t capable of true loyalty and love, she will always end up screwing you over.

        and you can never trust her again if she has betrayed you, she will always do it again in one way or another.

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    • You cannot fix a whore and you cannot fix crazy; no matter how “good” or “alpha” or red pill you are.

      All you can do is know the nature of the beast that you are dealing with and engage them on controlled and limited terms of your choosing; with an exit strategy in mind.
      Anything else is folly that will inevitably blow up in your face and cause you suffering and angst.

      God help you should you slip up and get one of these women pregnant and she decides to have the baby.

      Such women are often aware on some level of how broken they are and will try circumvent a man’s rational analysis of them by throwing their pussy at the guy, getting him pussy drunk and incapable of looking at the long term with her. Basically she sets a pussy trap.

      These women are broken in the way that a broken crystal vase is broken.

      No matter how well you try and put it back together, it will not be the same, will always have and show its faults and will always be more likely to break again should any pressure be applied.

      At best; they are a pump and dump proposition.

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      • Cracker says:

        exactly

        and you are right about what a nightmare it would be to knock one up. that didn’t happen with my ex thankfully. but i was still tied to her in more ways than i should have been. we lived together, had common friends and family ties, the whole deal.

        took me a very long time to fully extricate myself from that situation. learned my lesson for sure on that one. and even though cutting ties for good was very tough and seemed to take forever, it was the best thing i ever did. suffering through the shit of breaking up, hurt feelings, and parting ways was well worth it in the long run.

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      • Cracker says:

        forgot to mention how good this line is

        “No matter how well you try and put it back together, it will not be the same, will always have and show its faults and will always be more likely to break again should any pressure be applied.”

        i’ve got a prime example of that. as i’ve mentioned on here before, i travel a lot for work and have friends, hobbies, etc. any girl i’m with knows that from the get go.

        the ex blamed her cheating on me not giving her enough attention and support when she needed it. but she didn’t do anything in the way of trying to make me want to spend more time with her. instead it was a lot of bitching and moaning about how hard her life was, how i wasn’t giving her the attention and support she needed, all that.

        so she went looking for another man to give her what she thought she needed. but in reality, her life was no worse than any one else’s. in fact, it was pretty easy and unstressful compared to how most people live. still was never enough for her.

        fast forward to my girl now. i work the same amount, still spend time on hobbies and friends. when she wants more attention, she does the opposite of the other girl. instead of being a naggy bish telling me how everything is my fault, she does nice things for me, gives me extra support, etc so i want to spend time with her and take care of her.

        life gets shitty for people all the time. sometimes you can’t give people the attention they want. that’s no excuse for a girl to cheat. if anything, if she loves you like she says, she should be doing what she can to inspire your attention, not be a nasty shrew who makes you want to avoid her and goes whoring around trying to find some other guy to be her lacky

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        C, what became of your ex? Did she m@rry? Have ch!ldren? D!vorce? etc

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      • Cracker says:

        after a couple more failed relationships after me, she did finally marry.
        she’s a step mom to a couple boys but no kids of her own.

        i don’t circulate in the same social circles as her anymore but i do see her on social media. supposedly happy with hubby but of course throws up pics of herself all made up with tits on full display. obviously looking for attention from other men and not as happy as she claims. whores never change.

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        “but no kids of her own”

        Well hope and pray that some White man knocks her up.

        I suppose that if she were to get too close to peri-Menopause, then you could spl00ge her a mercy-donation.

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        BTW, in the back of my mind, I had kinda been anticipating that the answer would be that she had a bunch of kids with her new man [in which case I was going to say that breaking up with you had been great FOR HER], but it sounds like, so far at least, breaking up with you didn’t solve any of her problems.

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      • Cracker says:

        yeah, i don’t think any man could solve her problems. she’s damaged beyond repair. a long history of failed relationships. of course she’ll tell everyone it’s because all the men were assholes or losers. but she’s the common denominator. can’t make a whore a housewife

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      • Cracker says:

        i get how important having white b@bies is but we are all better off if she never has kids.

        narcissists like her make terrible mothers. any kids she’d have would be screwed up and do damage to our already fragile society. daughters would be slutty narcissists like her and sons would be weak and hopeless because of all the man hating she’d raise them with.

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    • Sanders says:

      You can pretty much take it to the bank that if she cheated on someone with you, before you got together, then she will cheat on you, too. It’s just a matter of time.

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      • Diversity Is Good says:

        Obvious but not obvious. Friend of mine was banging a married woman, thought it was hot and he was a playah. Then she divorced her husband AND split for the West coast, my friend was all “Wait!” because he thought he was smarter than her dumb husband. LOL, they were both fooled by a chubby 5! But really they just self-deluded.

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      • Cracker says:

        without question this is true.

        once a whore always a whore

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        If she cheats on “him”, then she WILL cheat ON YOU.

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      • Mr. Roboto says:

        Great advice, recently I was wondering about that situation.

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  11. Pwn says:

    Ch, maybe the people commenting on the article or the researchers were dishonest when they wrote women with higher notch counts cheat less. They can easily refer to men in the same notch count category based on that weasily wording. Although it can be an artifact of the study design too.

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  12. oops britney says:

    from Robert Trivers book on self-deception

    US history has many virtues, among which is the fact that the US population is reconstituted every generation through a roughly 10 percent admixture by external immigration from throughout the world. Although in its history rules of immigration have favored some groups over others, all have had some opportunity. And with illegal immigration, such opportunities are sometimes greatly enhanced. From a biological standpoint, the resulting outbreeding (insofar as it takes place, as it inevitably must) will tend to be genetically beneficial. The US population is perpetually heterogeneous, about to be infused with 10 percent more genes from around the world. This continual level of in-migration, outbreeding, and cultural diversity is unusual for most countries.

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  13. What about the seemingly contradictory finding that less attractive women are higher cheat risks? This is explained by the inherent instability of LSMV partnerships. Plain Janes are usually hitched to boring asexual beta mediocrities who are nonetheless reliable emotional tampons and open wallets.

    Plain Jane was watching the cock carousel more than she was riding it. She missed out on her AF, so once she snags BB it’s no surprise she wants to make up for what she didn’t get.

    Plus get real, Millennials are just gonna be more tolerant of cheating because they grew up on internet porn and hookups.

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    • Cracker says:

      no

      plain janes ride the carousel A LOT more than the hot girls

      like CH said, most men won’t look twice at a plain or ugly chaste girl, but they will no problem bang a plain/ugly girl who is slutty. these girls know they will never get the attention/commitment/devotion hot girls get by merely existing so they use sex to get it.

      then they get permanently damaged from all their empty casual sex and cycling through relationship after relationship, that they lose the ability to be normal, loyal, functional women.

      it’s a damn shame too. used to be plain or ugly women would at least pour on the feminine charm, domestic skills, etc to compensate for what they lack in the looks department. but now most of them are so screwed up that they are far worse in the personality department than the hottest girls. girls are dumb.

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      • Diversity Is Good says:

        plain janes ride the carousel A LOT more than the hot girls

        like CH said, most men won’t look twice at a plain or ugly chaste girl, but they will no problem bang a plain/ugly girl who is slutty.

        Either plain jane rides the carousel a lot, or most men don’t look twice at her. Choose one. Not both.

        How many millennials do you personally know?

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      • Cracker says:

        you didn’t read very carefully

        men don’t look twice at CHASTE plain janes but they will take a second look if they are SLUTTY. even though most men won’t gf/wife them up, most men will still take sex from average or worse looking girls at some time in their lives. especially if the getting is easy.

        that’s why so many 6s and 7s choose to be sluts. ups their chances of spreading their genes. chances they wouldn’t have otherwise. because the better looking girls get snapped up early and don’t have to be sloots to get a man’s attention.

        i know more millennials than i care to and the majority are not chaste or attrractive. by far the majority are slutty 6s or worse

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      • Diversity Is Good says:

        that’s why so many 6s and 7s choose to be sluts

        That’s not plain Jane. Plain Jane is a 5. At best.

        men don’t look twice at CHASTE plain janes but they will take a second look if they are SLUTTY.

        In other words:
        Plain Jane was watching the cock carousel more than she was riding it. She missed out on her AF, so once she snags BB it’s no surprise she wants to make up for what she didn’t get.

        Which is what I said in the first place.

        What are you trying to argue about?

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      • Cracker says:

        i see your point.

        i was thinking more of average girls who typically have a more slutty past than hot girls do.

        i’ve also seen plenty of fugs and fatties and plain janes who are sluts too.

        but yes, they might get sex but they aren’t getting what they really want. the ultimate prize, commitment, love, devotion from a high quality man.

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  14. Mean Mr. Mustard says:

    Although long; this is very good.

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  15. […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  16. Anonymous says:

    Get burned by a modern ‘ho, it’s Red Pill o’ rama…

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    • gunslingergregi says:

      oh shit roosh talking bout almost wifing a chick up
      I am the strongest man in the world he he he
      been in love still ain’t wife up no American chick

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    • gunslingergregi says:

      dam paypal shut him down along with all add platforms sounds like he needs money for a lawyer to make some cashes

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    • gunslingergregi says:

      yea need to take on twitter and paypal sounds like plan lets do money raise

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    • gunslingergregi says:

      with all the unemployed engineers and coders why not a new facebook and paypal and blog thing

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    • If that guy KNEW BETTER, than why did he do that? He destroyed himself. He ignored his own advice, which means in his heart, HE DID NOT BELIEVE HIS ADVICE.

      He does now…poor bastard.

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      • Cracker says:

        yep, even though he would tell every man not to try to gf/wife up a whore, he thought his situation was the exception to the rule and she’d be different with him.

        i did the same thing with my ex. for me i think it was a case of being recently red pilled and too confident in my powers of game.

        i had had great successes with women up to that point and i thought i was invincible. i thought i could get any woman to do and be what i wanted her to. i forgot that some women are just trash and there’s no fixing them.

        also learned that game isn’t only about managing whatever women you happen to come across. for me, the most important part is getting to a level where you are no longer afraid to filter out the mediocre and shitty girls because you know you will find better ones and be able to get and keep them.

        i had to learn my lesson the hard way but the advice that you can’t make a whore a housewife will always be true. red flags like a slew of failed relationships, history of casual hookups and jumping from one man to another, past cheating, etc. are ALWAYS predictors of future behavior. NO EXCEPTIONS.

        some of us have ignored that timeless advice when we were in a weak place but any man who can stay objective and follow it is going to be a better happier man for it.

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  17. OldFart says:

    LOL

    So apparently it’s Valentine’s Day….I forgot all about it because I’m at the #Olympics and I’m single. Anyone else out there single and want to be my valentine? 🤷🏼‍♀️ #worthashot

    — lindsey vonn (@lindseyvonn) February 14, 2018

    Burn the coal, pay the toll

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    • Greg Eliot says:

      She’s just fishing for that thrill of remote attention, and believe me, she’ll get it, in spades. (no pun intended) Thirsty betas will pile on… probably a slew of dykes as well.

      WTF was she thinking, going out with that has-been n1gger?

      (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • PA says:

        One thing annihilates the palliative balm of thirsty beta suckups:

        A photo of a White baby.

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      • Greg Eliot says:

        Damn, PA, that would be a great idea and comeuppance if a goodly number of those betas just put up a picture of a beautiful blonde baby… comments along the lines of “clean up your act if you want one of these” optional.

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    • Greg Eliot says:

      As predicted, the thirsty suck-ups are piling on.

      On a side note:

      Thot poses nude with “Women do not have to be modest to be respected.” I think there was something there about “fierce” as well.

      Lindsey says “I’m so proud of you!”, go figger.

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      • Greg Eliot says:

        That wasn’t the picture in question, but I guess if you click on the link you’ll see it.

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      • streetsweeper says:

        shilling for the synathedral again, Greg this kind of agitprop is old news for chateau readers.

        what exactly is your point with this? that we should all just give up and go home because resistance is futile?

        point made. bravo.

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        GE, you’re getting sloppy.

        She’s not a thot, she’s a (((tjot))).

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      • Greg Eliot says:

        There you go again, dweebstreet, trying to neener-neener with my own expressions in a situation that doesn’t apply.

        How does my ass smell?

        The point was this Vonn bish being “proud” of yet another thot with attitude.

        Lindsey better just start thinking about that wall she’s approaching rather than rah-rahing other “fierce” thots, amirite?

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      • Greg Eliot says:

        GE, you’re getting sloppy.

        She’s not a thot, she’s a (((tjot))).

        Well, I wasn’t going to do any in-depth research on either of these coozes… but seeing that picture where she had the writing on her, saying a girl doesn’t have to be modest, and then Vonn clapping her on the back, just struck me as a moment worthy of a haid shake.

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    • hans says:

      If only they could learn..

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  18. Duddy Jazz says:

    “I call bulls$hit. Every study I’ve seen to date has found the opposite…”

    You must be brand new to social science… or, more accurately, liberal arts people trying to use numbers. There are a few, less-meme-able studies out their that unintentionally show the opposite of what that neck-beard, sociopathology chart show with more recent data… because that’s how social “science” works.

    My theory behind this opposing conclusion is because women who would historically have been more chaste, aren’t. It’s not in their true nature to ber $lutty, it’s just a matter of fitting in un a world where Dad wasn’t around to demonstrate good male behavior. They still make ok wives, they’re just harder to spot these days because they behave like the truly, born-broken types.

    That said, you always go for the more chaste woman where you can. Just don’t be an autiste about it. And for the love of God, don’t draw any serious life altering conclusions or comfort from fůçķįng social “science.”

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  19. bigjohn33 says:

    Something that may be slightly confounding this study is the modest positive correlation between IQ and beauty. It is quite possible infidelity has more to do with people being dumb and impulsive rather than the traits of their partners.

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    • bigjohn33 says:

      Ex. A plain jane may cheat on her higher value partner, not because she is plain but because she is dumb.

      An attractive slut may actually be less likely to cheat if she is paired with a man she doesn’t want to lose and if (big if) she is smart. This seems intuitively kind of shaky, but plausible.

      I don’t disagree with CH calling bullshit. It would be really interesting to see infidelity scrubbed against personality characteristics, intelligence, socioeconomic status, etc.

      Attractiveness is only part of the equation.

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    • plumpjack says:

      that’s exactly my point above. it’s called “cheating” for a reason.

      cheat
      1. act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage
      2. avoid (something undesirable) by luck or skill.

      synonyms: avoid, escape, evade, elude;

      IOW, everything we need to know about the behavior of infidelity is contained in the culturally-chosen word chosen to describe it: cheating. take an advantage for oneself but don’t extend it to the other person.

      if you break it down further, infidelity is actually two separate behaviors: the act itself, and concealing it from one’s partner. they are not necessarily the same thing.

      “cheating” is an immediate gratification behavior, which, in some cases, may have some evolutionary advantages. it is not necessarily about how many options one has. though I suppose you could say the more options one has the more important it is to be able to delay gratification.

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      • Cracker says:

        “though I suppose you could say the more options one has the more important it is to be able to delay gratification.”

        yes, it doesn’t take any self discipline or character to act out if you aren’t given the opportunity. good character is having the opportunity but not acting on it.

        that’s why i don’t buy in to the idea that all girls with options will cheat. that’s patently false.

        there are girls who have plenty of opportunities but choose to be faithful anyway. because they truly love their man, they are loyal by nature, etc.

        not as many around as there used to be because most women are more selfish than loyal and don’t have any impulse control at all. but they do exist.

        key is to find girls who don’t blame external circumstances for everything they do and for men to not tolerate women who make excuses for their shitty behavior. also have to pay attention to red flags and not ignore them. past history of slooting, cheating, a long string of failed relationships are all good predictors of future behavior. can’t ignore that and think you can change her if you have enough game. that is the ultimate in fool’s errands.

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  20. gunslingergregi says:

    you ever had a bitch cheat on you then go off herself I have he he he

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  21. gunslingergregi says:

    valentines pretty big for chicks I had ex ex already text me this morning bout going out at 4 am lol

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  22. OldFart says:

    Discuss:

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  23. Waffles says:

    Fellas, just needed to pop on and drop a few comments. So post break up took some time for myself to get sorted, have been out of the game for a few months. Now, I prefer talking to women in person, and my last GF was a certified hottie. I wouldn’t consider myself extra picky by any means, but I just downloaded Tinder and let me tell you. It is a wasteland. Even the younger girls are looking way above their ages and haggard. Way too many tattoos and piercings on all of these women. Yikes.

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  24. gunslingergregi says:

    Donald J. Trump

    Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump
    Feb 12

    More
    This will be a big week for Infrastructure. After so stupidly spending $7 trillion in the Middle East, it is now time to start investing in OUR Country!”””””’

    there is no way who the fuck comes up with these numbers could of covered the dessert in diamonds

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  25. oink says:

    Maitre!

    You are overthinking yourself into analysis paralysis!

    Bunz in Oven!

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  26. plumpjack says:

    in case any of you gentlemen are struggling to find the perfect Valentine’s gift idea for the love of your life/slut of the week, here is plumpjack’s recommendation:

    price: $8

    and before everyone says, “pj you f’n pussy-pedestalizing beta! splurging to impress some girl you’re bangin! you soyboy! you paid eight freaking dollars for a stuffed animal!” let me just, yes, I know I overpaid. but…no card, no dinner, no balloons, and no extra gas for the 4×4.

    I picked this up from a Chinese guy and his wife who was selling v-day gifts from a folding table in front of my gym. (he asked if I wanted a balloon too for $4 and I told him “nah. I don’t want to spoil her.” he laughed and looked at his wife and said “smart!”.

    oh, and I’ve been with this gal almost a year. she’s a nice girl and she’s hot, so she deserves my best. which means keeping her endlessly guessing what my next move is..

    part of me wanted to just do no-gift but I’ve done that so often with her that there’s a risk of it becoming an old gag. so I went the Skittles route. almost. if someone had been selling small boxes of v-day candies in front of my gym that would have been my preference.

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  27. plumpjack says:

    in case any of you gentlemen are struggling to find the perfect Valentine’s gift idea for the love of your life/slut of the week, here is plumpjack’s recommendation:

    (pic follows, hopefully…)

    price: $8

    and before everyone says, “pj you f’n pussy-pedestalizing beta! splurging to impress some girl you’re bangin! you soyboy! you paid eight freaking dollars for a stuffed animal!” let me just, yes, I know I overpaid. but…no card, no dinner, no balloons, and no extra gas for the 4×4.

    I picked this up from a Chinese guy and his wife who was selling v-day gifts from a folding table in front of my gym. (he asked if I wanted a balloon too for $4 and I told him “nah. I don’t want to spoil her.” he laughed and looked at his wife and said “smart!”.

    oh, and I’ve been with this gal almost a year. she’s a nice girl and she’s hot, so she deserves my best. which means keeping her endlessly guessing what my next move is..

    part of me wanted to just do no-gift but I’ve done that so often with her that there’s a risk of it becoming an old gag. so I went the Skittles route. almost. if someone had been selling small boxes of v-day candies in front of my gym that would have been my preference.

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    • plumpjack says:

      pics won’t post. you’ll just have to use your imaginations.

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    • gunslingergregi says:

      get a box of that fake wood shit that is easy to light shape into heart in backyard wait till night tell her get dressed up throw a blanket out near it
      hit it with lighter fluid
      write I love you in some type of candy on blanky
      go out take some pics I had some of best pics of fire ever was cool as fuck looking with a heart on fire
      it will still be charred next year lol

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    • Greg Eliot says:

      I found a one pound bag of heart-shaped pasta at the ALDI Market for two bucks, so there it is. 😉

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  28. irishsavant says:

    Totally off topic but while waiting for the start of the Champions League football here (I know, I should boycott it) I counted EVERY SINGLE AD – without exception – featured some kind of race mixing. Even an ad for nappies had a black couple. And this is aimed at the Irish market. The orders for this simply have to be coming from some higher authority, it can’t be the (((ad agencies))) on their own.

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  29. gunslingergregi says:

    I guess its easy when you don’t care if the thot cheats
    or has other dudes cause no emotional investment

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  30. Captain Obvious says:

    Student member of the JROTC ‘shoots up to 50’ at Florida high school leaving ‘many dead’ after going on a rampage before being taken into custody a mile from the scene following dramatic showdown with SWAT http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5392559/Multiple-victims-Florida-school-shooting.html

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    • Captain Obvious says:

      Perfectly timed for when the G0ad Emperor’s poll numbers were going up and he was about to kick (((Charles Schumer)))’s greasy j00 ass on DACA.

      #LaurelCanyonCIA

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    • Greg Eliot says:

      Why is a 19 year old man still in high school?

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    • Ironsides says:

      Sooner or later, these assholes are going to get firearms banned with their antics. Damn them.

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      • gunslingergregi says:

        this one might be real he still alive not neatly boxed up dead

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      • gunslingergregi says:

        a lot of people probably hope they ban firearms

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      • gunslingergregi says:

        lol look at pics of the person putting wounded into ambulance no blood on hands pure white

        ”””’Broward Sheriff Scott Israel confirmed that 17 people had been killed and up to 50 more injured”””””

        maybe cap is right lol

        50 injured with 223 rounds of course no blood duh

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      • gunslingergregi says:

        no blood on any responders hands dur dur

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      • gunslingergregi says:

        no blood on floor no blood in any photos get the fuck out with the comedy

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      • gunslingergregi says:

        I seen enough blood filled trucks to know what it looks like

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      • gunslingergregi says:

        where is the fucking feces o;lollollp

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      • Ironsides says:

        Well, my personal opinion is that most if not all of them are real; only Paddock is suspect, in my book, due to various oddities.

        Society breaking down, stress of multiethnic culture, atomized nihilism with no family support or custom, disintegrating values, incessant (((leftist))) insanity, and the widespread use of drugs = unstable population where certain people run amok.

        This one appears to have been a beaner, though — wonder if there’s a whiff of DACA rage in there.

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  31. Amon Ra says:

    – A Racist Con-Man: Obama’s Portrait Artist, Who Hires Cheap Chinese Labor To Paint “His” Work, Says “Kill Whitey” Is A Major Theme –

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/racist-verified-obamas-portrait-artist-hires-cheap-chinese-labor-paint-work-says-kill-whitey-major-theme/

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  32. Amon Ra says:

    – How the SHTF in Bosnia: Selco Asks Americans, “Does this sound familiar?” –

    https://www.theorganicprepper.com/shtf-bosnia-selco-americans/

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    • oink says:

      U may want to run yer sob story by the local cathcuck, “rezident”

      Do servs enjoy Our Lord’s finely milled products? I’m asking for a friendly squirting jugular.

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  33. Spartacoid says:

    Serious question on this: “Men have to find that balance between a less attractive but no muss, no fuss woman, and a more attractive but harder-to-get woman. Men who choose the former are more apt to cheat to fulfill their desire for the latter.”

    I recently met a no muss, no fuss low maintenance girl. She’s flexible and a giver and a pleaser. Great sense of humour. I find her quite sexy when the clothes come off and I enjoy spending time with her. Sex is good. But.. I just don’t find her pretty. So when we go out, I find myself eyeing other girls.

    There’s a natural dominance/submissive dynamic between us. She’s 10 years younger than me. This girl is wife material. But I’m just worried about not finding her pretty. I have no idea what to do. I’m starting to feel like you have to choose between an ordinary looking girl with a solid personality or a neurotic hottie.

    Any advice?

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