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It’s long been a staple of feminist “humor”: women fake orgasms because men are crappy lovers and women feel a need to stroke men’s egos. The tacit assumption is that men who can’t get the job done in bed are losers, or, in the nomenclature of the illuminati: betas. The telling of this snark by covens of fat feminists is usually followed immediately by hearty blasts of man-jawed cackling.

(I’m doing my part to energize the meme that feminists are masculinized women. Bonus: it’s true!)

But the truth, it turns out, is something close to the opposite of the conventional wisdom. The types of men with whom women most often fake orgasms are ALPHAS.

A female reader sends along the following study:

The current study tested the hypothesis that women pretend orgasm as part of a broader strategy of mate retention. We obtained self-report data from 453 heterosexual women (M age, 21.8 years) in a long-term relationship (M length, 32.8 months) drawn from universities and surrounding communities in the southeastern United States. The results indicated that (1) women who perceived higher risk of partner infidelity were more likely to report pretending orgasm, (2) women who reported greater likelihood of pretending orgasm also reported performing more mate retention behaviors, and (3) women’s perceptions of partner infidelity risk mediated the relationship between pretending orgasm and the performance of cost-inflicting mate retention behaviors, such as Intersexual Negative Inducements (“Flirted with someone in front of my partner”) and Intrasexual Negative Inducements (“Yelled at a woman who looked at my partner”). Thus, pretending orgasm may be part of a broader strategy of mate retention performed by women who perceive higher risk of partner infidelity.

Source: “Do Women Pretend Orgasm to Retain a Mate?” from Archives of Sexual Behavior

So basically, women who fear straying by their (implicit) alpha boyfriends are likely to fake orgasms, as well as engage in a host of other mate retention behaviors intended to keep their prized studs within the pen. Hmm, why does this remind me of that infamous CH post extolling the virtues of keeping your woman in a state of low-level dread.

Beta males almost never inspire a fear of straying, so women who sleep with betas don’t feel much need to psychologically manipulate them into greater commitment. Women subconsciously intuit, rightly, that they are going to get that commitment from betas no matter what. This is a more impressive act of callousness when you realize that women naturally experience less orgasmic release with beta lovers than they do with alpha lovers. So there are way more opportunities for women to fake orgasms with betas which they don’t bother taking because they don’t give a shit about assuaging beta males’ egos. Imagine a woman lying inert like a dead fish under a beta male, forever.

Some may ask, if alphas are so arousing to women, why do women have to occasionally fake orgasms with them? Well, physiologically, women simply don’t have the convenient placement of equipment, or the mental shutdown module, that would facilitate easy orgasm, the way that men do. There are going to be those times when a woman finds it difficult to cum, no matter how enamored of her lover she is. Men should know this and stop fretting all the time about fully satisfying women. Women don’t respect that kind of unmanly concern, anyhow. You’ll get a lot more mileage out of your flings and relationships with the attitude that your orgasm comes first. Chicks dig the self-centered man.

It’s helpful to note that men also occasionally fake orgasms, though not nearly as frequently as women fake them. I’ve done it a few times when I was especially tired, or my sack was completely drained from prior sessions. Some men fake it when they realize, to their horror, they’ve drunkenly taken a war pig back to bed with them.

So why fake? Because women HAVE A FUCKING COW when you don ‘t cum.

Seriously, try it sometime. Hold back on your money shot. Act like you’re finished copulating without jizzing. Then watch in wonder as your girl has a complete mental breakdown. Chicks HATE HATE HATE when their boyfriends or lovers don’t cum with them. She will take it personally, like her vagina has just been rejected by a giant godhead boner in the sky who deemed it unsuitable as a delivery system for male pleasure.

Not orgasming with a woman with fuck with her head. And no surprise, either; it doesn’t take much for a man to cum once he’s hard, so a woman who fails at that task must have a truly defective vagina or a body that won’t stop quitting. Sometimes that’s true, but more often it’s just the case that the man is beat and de-juiced.

Don’t try explaining that sensible logic to women. You’ll save a lot of heartache by faking it instead. Of course, this gets a bit more problematic if you’re raw dogging and the telltale signs of satisfied meaty intrusion aren’t dripping out of her.

Happy Thanksgiving!

168 Responses to “The Real Reason Women Fake Orgasms”

  1. Jake says:

    I purposely don’t get off sometimes.

    It’s worth the delaying of gratification, since it’s pretty much guaranteed that she-whoever is going to spend all her waking moments slow motion studying any and all porn I may have inadvertently have left open on her computer.

    You want the sex you fantasize about, be as much of a manipulative fuckhead as they can be. It’s fun and easy.

    Also, here’s what I think of American guys and their deathly fear of ladyboys: http://two.cedonulli.com/2011/11/ladyboys/

  2. caRIOca says:

    “Women don’t respect that kind of unmanly concern, anyhow.”

    Chateau’s best quote ever.

    • Ian says:

      Describing alpha sucks , because you can take any arbitrary thing and give an example of how an alpha person gets away with it.

      But yes, normal people who try to get girls off look like tools.

  3. DirkJohanson says:

    Good post, consistent with my personal experiences.

  4. Anonymous says:

    We haven’t explained why they do it. I assume it is because the man will feel that she’s enjoying herself in the relationship and, therefore, can’t say to her “look, you know this isn’t working for us, right?”

    She’s effectively saying “See, you satisfy me” even when she isn’t being satisfied.

    And the REASON she isn’t being satisfied is mostly because she’s gained too much weight and the alpha male is already seeking sex elsewhere and not trying too hard at all (often not coming).

    She’s trying to pretend, to him at least, that everything is as normal as it was before.

    • Betadyerface says:

      I wouldn’t assume she’s not being satisfied. Unlike guys, women can get a lot of psychological gratification from sex even if they don’t orgasm. (Some chicks even seem to get off more from your orgasm than their own.) More “that was good, let’s do it again tomorrow.”

      On the other hand, there’s also the “hurry up, I’m bored/tired/sore” type fake.

  5. Alex says:

    First

  6. Opus says:

    Revelatory – and why is it that when women fake orgasm it is so obvious? – as you see I know a lot about this, so am probably a perceived Alpha. Personally I wish they wouldn’t for as the old joke puts it: Q. How do you give a woman an orgasm? – A. Who cares.

    If there is one thing that annoys a woman more than unwanted attention, it is rejection, either by ignoring or by scoring with another hot chick or better still two at the same time. Although I do not think I have ever failed to cum, I once had the unfortunate experience of not being to get it up (my fault for allowing her to take her all over town all night and I was thus I was tired – but experience taught me a valuable lesson!) and she (our first and only time) dumped me the next morning but of course she must have realised that she was not sufficiently hot enough for me. Feminists who go on about Rape etc always conveniently forget that sex is no big deal for a woman but rejection is the one thing they would really like to be able to complain about to the Police.

    • Anonymous says:

      That, Opus, was one of the best comments in awhile.

      This could be a maxim:

      Feminists who go on about Rape etc always conveniently forget that sex is no big deal for a woman but rejection is the one thing they would really like to be able to complain about to the Police.

      • The Real Vince says:

        Julian Assange agrees.

      • Doug1 says:

        Sex particularly date “rape” sex with a guy they were very likely gonna screw anyway in another date or two is no big deal for sluts for sure. The date rape hysteria is by far mostly yet another feminist effort to arrogate power from men to women.

        Reject me in the morning and I’ll have been too drunk to consent (even though I could walk and talk) => rad feminist’s idea of date rape, unfortunately more or less the rule in some campus rule books.

    • Anonymous says:

      I’d consider your remarks to be revelatory, Opus.

      Borderline Personality Disorder – Simply summed up as “Don’t Abandon Me”. Rejection or abandonment is the worst thing in existence for a BPD woman. It can drive them to extreme violence even. I’d content that most of the actual rabid Feminists are actually BPD women. They’d love nothing better than to report being rejected to the police- and it’s because they’ve been rejected time and time again that they have the vitriol that they do.

      It’s a damned shame people listen to these bitter, crazy women in the manner they do these days.

  7. Anonymous says:

    That Canadian court polygamy decision you tweeted was based on a radical feminist view of harm to women and children and, of course, ignores the fact that those same courts are saying yes to gay marriage.

    If the court wanted to use a different argument, no problem, but the argument they used was anti-male to the max.

    • Doug1 says:

      The interesting case will be when someone legally marries only one wife but then lives with his other two wives from a religious point of view, which is what polygamists normally do in Utah and what Bill Henderson did in Big Love. Interesting because I think all Canadian provinces have laws that make living together couples automatically married whether the man consents or not after two or three years. Are they gonna prohibit living together with more than one woman? That really gets oppressive.

    • Doug1 says:

      The Greek and Roman and from the later the Catholic Church’s rule against polygamy was primarily an inheritance rule. Greek, Roman and Euro upper class men commonly or usually had mistress and sometimes more than one at a time.

  8. sdgsdjgjsdgjo says:

    The picture in this post is art.

  9. RL says:

    “Female Orgasm as Screening

    I talk often about “signaling,” i.e., acting to show observers one’s desirable qualities. “Screening” is matching actions by observers, who can go out of their way to encourage signaling. For example, you might insult someone to see how they react to insults. Similarly, it seems evolution designed orgasms to help human females screen mates:

    First suggested by David P. Barash nearly three decades ago, the idea is that orgasm might be a way a woman’s body speaks to her brain, “telling herself” that she has been having sex with a suitable partner—that is, one who is not worried about being displaced by a competitor, who is self-confident and unhurried enough to be satisfying to her. When Barash was a graduate student more than ten years earlier, he observed that when subordinate male grizzly bears copulate, their heads are constantly swiveling about on the lookout for a dominant male, who, should he encounter a couple in flagrante, will likely dislodge his lesser rival and take its place. Not surprisingly, subordinate males ejaculate very quickly, whereas dominants take their time. …

    Research on a large captive group of Japanese macaque monkeys is also suggestive. … During 238 hours of observations in which 240 copulations were observed, female orgasmic responses occurred in 80 (33 percent). Of these orgasms, the highest frequency took place when high-ranking males were copulating with low-ranking females, and the lowest between low-ranking males and high-ranking females. … Maybe, [female orgasm] is designed to be more than a little hard to get, adaptive precisely because it can’t be too readily summoned, so that when it arrives, it means something. …

    What about faking orgasm? … Orgasmic pretense might increase the man’s confidence regarding paternity of any offspring, building on his likely assumption that a sexually satisfied woman wouldn’t have sought to mate with someone else. … [This] would diminish the likelihood that the man will engage in “mate guarding,” thereby facilitating a woman’s ability to engage in extrapair copulations. …

    Rates of extrapair paternity are about 2 percent in many human populations and about 10 percent in traditional societies. … One study has found that women are significantly more orgasmic when paired with men who are more symmetric. … [and] are more likely to experience ostensibly “high sperm retention orgasms” – that is, climaxes that occurred in close temporal proximity to the man’s.
    We are often uncomfortable with acknowledging signaling theories of our behavior; signaling is often not our conscious motivation and we expect others would think less of us if signaling were our conscious motivation. We are similarly uncomfortable with screening theories of our behavior, and for similar reasons. Yet the truth is that we are built to signal and screen much more than we realize.

    While the chapter above discusses women faking more desire than they feel, we should also expect them to sometimes fake less desire than they feel. After all, if the strongest desires come when low status women mate with high status men, then strong desires tend to mark one as low status. And while one typically wants to overstate desire for a relation before lockin, one typically wants to understate desire after lockin; those who want to threaten to leave if they are not treated better can prefer to understate their desire to appear more willing to leave.”

    (Source: Overcomingbias)

    • Anonymous says:

      Why 10% in more traditional societies and 2% in less traditional societies?

      Is that because women don’t get the men they want in traditional ones?

    • Doug1 says:

      I don’t know why more guys don’t talk about the ability of some girls to have orgasms quite easily and multiple orgasms as something that those girls a lot more sexually attractive. They certainly are to me. That’s part of her being good in bed to me actually.

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  11. Fucking with a girl’s head usually works in your favor if you intend on keeping her interested. Does this mean that purposely not coming will be to your advantage if such was your objective?

    I always enjoy shooting her in the face to establish my territory/dominance.

  12. jineteyokin says:

    Alpha pic, that one.

  13. Ras says:

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  14. Traveller says:

    This means ugly women fake more.

    Or, it is easier make them orgasm.

    And probably a woman fakes orgasm for keeping a rich beta too.

    This makes me conclude probably some women who keep faking it, in the end they believe they are experimenting the real thing (delusional state).

  15. RVT says:

    I had sex with a feminist last thanksgiving. When I was about to penetrate her, confetti shot out of her vagina and I got a prize for being the 10,000th customer.

    • Anon says:

      LOL !

    • Anonymous says:

      Funny, except the client customer meme doesn’t apply to the most obnoxious feminists who are determined to see a world where women “can’t be bought,” despite their nature to always have a price. They want to criminalize anything that might look like a customer client interaction and it isn’t funny when western feminists train young women to deliberately look for poor alphas instead of rich alphas if the girl herself is poor, which fits the ideology of equality = “people should date their equals”.

      US evangelicals often have the same pedestalizing agenda; they want to pretend that most hot women can’t be bought and much of their lawmaking agenda focuses on the idea of punishing men for getting females to agree to be mercenary. For instance, they can effectively raise the age of consent by saying that 17 is legal unless you give her a gift of any sort. The feminists in Italy and Germany allied with conservatives on that latter issue and that is what got Berlosconi brought before a feminist judge.

      Finally, some PUAs want to believe that most women can’t be bought and that only game can get them into bed. They don’t realize that this belief pedestalizes the women in exactly the same way as the above two ideological groups. It’s insane to believe the majority of hot women are too good or too high SMV to be whoring around on the side for rent money or two times rent money, basically making hay while the sun shines. What’s dangerous is that this type of PUA, mostly young and poor, will tacitly agree with the agenda of the anti-sex feminists and evangelicals. He will want to believe that women are not whores.

  16. beta_plus says:

    Wow. Most of your posts I have some vague notion are already true, but this one came out of the blue. Never even occurred to me. The wealth of information this place provides never ceases to amaze me.

  17. ladderff says:

    I think your conclusion is rushed. Seems to me that faking orgasm would be most useful to women during infertile phases of their cycles trying to keep betas around. Women don’t fear betas straying per se, but they do like their attention and tribute and do have adaptations designed to keep those things flowing. The trick for the woman is to keep up those flows while minimizing the risk of conception with the beta. I’d therefore like to see some investigation of faking behavior as it relates to the cycle (or hormonal contraception).

    (I do agree that today lots of women are not going to bother faking it with betas because they get plenty of attention and tribute from elsewhere. Of course, they are also just having less sex with betas than they otherwise might, for the same reason.)

    I also wonder if Freud wasn’t right about distinguishing between “vaginal” and “clitoral” orgasms. Because of the location of the clit relative to the vagina women have a lot of control over how much stimulation the clit gets during intercourse. They have less control over the amount of stimulation the “deep” spots (cervix, vaginal fornices) get. This is anecdotal, but it seems to me that the truly over-the-top orgasms, accompanied by the most pronounced (conception-facilitating) spasms, come from hitting those deep spots. So if you put this together it seems like at least some women could, instead of faking, go ahead and have a clitoral orgasm during sex. The advantage of this to the female is that it contributes to pair-bonding, suckers the beta into thinking he’s got a decent shot at conception, but doesn’t actually facilitate conception that much. Mr. Alpha comes along when hubby’s not around, gives it to her doggy style (virtually zero clitoral stimulation), she cums like an earthquake, and is likely to conceive.

    • n/a says:

      The hardest a female will ever come is when she’s being fucked in the ass and working her clit at the same time.

      Then they come like fucking beasts.–

  18. Blurry says:

    Not orgasming with a woman will fuck with her head.. could that also be a cunning, tactical manoeuvre, given that it’s good to send that hamster wheel spinning…

  19. Stuki says:

    While, all things being equal, female orgasms are more likely with alphas, a stereotypically indifferent (per this blog) alpha taking 5 minutes out of his busy schedule to bust a nut; may still fall short in total orgasm count induced, compared to some beta running though the entire Kamasutra in an attempt to please his one and only.

    • Betadyerface says:

      female friend: “I got this email from a guy on (dating site). He said he was an oral sex god and would eat me out until I had a hundred orgasms. Ug. That is so not what women want in bed.”

  20. Rey says:

    If men didn’t worry about making the girl cum, or atleast prolonging her pleasure, wouldn’t most men be done with in 10 minutes?

    • n/a says:

      Not all men.

      The best fucking is done over a few hours. Every hole and then some.

      Learn to chip viagra and you’ll be a happy man.

  21. Michael Maier says:

    My first time I fucked for hours but I was so uptight I just couldn’t come. It was in a nice hotel, we did it rawdog and I never lost my erection. Different positions, head, didn’t matter.

    It was the 2nd or maybe even the third time before I could bust a nut. She seemed accepting of it, but I could tell it really bugged her.

    The thing about women not caring enough to fake it with betas showed true at the end, too. Our last time I fucked her hard and vigorous, she didn’t seem to notice. Then the cunt wouldn’t let me keep going after blowing my load.

    Looking back, I wish I’d said “shut up”, stuck back it in and fucked her to my completion anyway.

  22. ivandurak says:

    I think the Alpha/Beta cutoff is not true here.

    An Alpha with limited time or possibilities to meet other women will see his girlfriend losing some of the dread. For example, a man working too much over an extended period of time will not be able to meet women. This can kill The Dread.

    • Anonymous says:

      The biggest way to kill a woman’s dread is to grant her easy access to your apartment when you are not there.

  23. Matador says:

    I think it serves a double purpose:

    – Making the alpha feel like he’s the Man. No need for him therefore to boost his ego by knocking out other pussies.

    – Women trying to prove that they’re sexually satisfied and less likely to stray. And that hits the paternity certainty attraction trigger.

    I used to make a lot of efforts to make the girls cum. I read a lot of stuff, David Shade and his A-spot/back deep spot…, Daniel Rose and his Sex God Method. I even tried White Tiger Tantra (tiring but worth it, only if she’s a good girl though).

    All these readings are fine, and the ability to give spine-shattering orgasms should be in the player’s toolbox. But shit is useless on the long-term, women stay faithful/in love for a whole lot of reasons.

    And a good rogering often leads to the same results if one is alpha enough. I think it’s better to be selfish in bed most of the time, her orgasm is her responsibility.

  24. Anonymous says:

    fuuuarkin brilliant! love this blog.

  25. Maya says:

    Nice post but picture is offensive. What if your mum really is reading your blog?

  26. tyrone says:

    If you know what to look for, a woman can’t really fake an orgasm. A true orgasm involves involuntary spasms and should raise a woman off of the bed and cause her to convulse for a few minutes afterwards. If you give a woman that kind of orgasm, she will follow you like a dog forever.

    • rickb223 says:

      And, her pussy should become very wet. If it still feels like you are fucking a pile of sawdust, the bitch is faking it.

  27. askjoe says:

    Men should know this and stop fretting all the time about fully satisfying women. Women don’t respect that kind of unmanly concern, anyhow. You’ll get a lot more mileage out of your flings and relationships with the attitude that your orgasm comes first. Chicks dig the self-centered man.

    yup, Roosh is right, it doesn’t matter, and bragging about being a cunning linguist seems to be a beta trait.

  28. (r)Evoluzione says:

    One of the most empowering things I ever learned was to (almost) completely control when I orgasm, and in the process, learning to separate orgasm from ejaculation. They are two separate physiological processes, which usually occur simultaneously, but don’t have to.

    Having this skill helps me to always fuck her brains out. It helps me to control my own fertility–I never jizz inside her unless I mean to. And, it lets me control if and when I want to give her the validation of my seed on or in her.

    That has enhanced my sex life as much as game has, and that’s saying a lot. They go quite well together. I call them the Jedi skills. They are that.

    For this I am grateful, as I am for the band of brothers that is the manosphere. Happy Thanksgiving, gentlemen.

    That Tom’s got quite the comb.

    • Dan Fletcher says:

      I saw some discussion about this on Rollo’s comments once. How can I learn to do this? Is it safe? The sources I have found so far seem sketchy.

    • Betadyerface says:

      Right on. I picked up ejaculation control from an old sex advice book back when I was 18, and have been working it ever since. Screw a girl exactly as long as she wants and come at the ‘right’ time, and she’ll think you’re awesome.

      (One will usually see this discussed in tantric sex books, which is mostly bullshit that maybe worked on your hippie slut mother. But the basic technique is sound. Just practice jerking to the edge and not popping until you have it under control.)

      The other trick from that old book which I’ve put to good use is controlling her breathing during foreplay. Be cool about it, but squeeze the shit out of her, suck the air out her mouth, even cover her mouth with your hand. Drives em nuts.

  29. Anonymous says:

    Nice turkey.

    Erectile dysfunction = shattered female ego. Big money selling pills to pump up both.

    Young girls fix erectile dysfunction. 100% successful.

  30. GT says:

    First!
    Happy Thanksgiving.

  31. Samuel says:

    I follow the logic pretty well, but I think the conclusion that they are more likely to fake for an Alpha than for a beta could be imbalanced.

    For instance, women know that if they have emasculated their man, there is a part of him that hates her for it, and that she might even remember that he was the MAN before she whipped him into submission, and so in order to keep him emasculated and under her control, she fakes it instead of making him worry too much about his virility, lest he feel the need to go out and re-capture his manhood and (try to) dominate some pussy.

    I would generally expect that women would climax more with Alphas because they are much more attracted and excited, and also because Alphas are commonly more sexually skilled.

    I tell a woman early on that I want her orgasm and I’m going to fuck her until I have it, and so her priority better be to give me what i want instead of sitting there like a dumbshit hoping I get mine. Of course I’m gonna get mine, I can snap one off in 2 minutes. What I want is hers… and when she realizes that she will have my tool at her disposal, she will usually just request the position that is easiest for her to cum and will go for it. Then I get to see how she likes it, and how she gets there, and turn her ass out as I give her more than anyone ever has.

    Further, I think that women who choose betas do so because they are “playing it safe” because they dont have the guts or the confidence to go for the alphas and don’t like having to worry all the time. This could support the theory that they are faking it for betas, because they cannot get off with betas, but they are willing to fake it instead of going for a real man who will slap that ass the way they need it. They sacrifice their own sexual pleasure out of fear of risk.

    They will also fake it for a beta, perhaps, if they are trying to hold out hope somehow that if they encourage him enough that he will rise up and grow a pair of balls and figure it out. (especially if their beta-boy has money) Trying to be supportive before they give up on him or have to cheat on him to get their nut.

    bottom line- some women actually want to retain their beta men, and the conclusion that they fake it more for Alphas is not airtight.

    • Grace says:

      I think what you are doing is creating the perfect conditions for your partner to fake an orgasm. The pressure in the situation you describe makes ME feel anxious just reading it (and anxiety=no orgasm as most women aren’t good as separating their feelings from sex). Sex is more complicated for women than men, and often an orgasm is not really the end goal/important for a woman in a sexual encounter.

    • Emma the Emo says:

      Would have to agree with Grace on the pressure to cum thing…( I don’t think “men separate feelings from sex” though, I just think their equipment makes it easier for them to come in general.) I think the pressure to come is something that could affect both men and women into not coming, unless they are in the right position and have a foolproof technique to make the orgasm happen. If you have the latter, you can probably get away with pressuring them.

  32. From the POV of keeping her hamster spinning, Isn’t it better if she knows you faked it?

    ALSO- RE: your tweet about Groupon basically screwing over small businesses, that is a feature, not a bug. “Social buying” is nothing but a JDAM bomb dropped by the Silicon Valley/Wall Street elite nexus on main street small businesses.

  33. Heartiste, I’m surprised to say I don’t think you really stuck the landing on the moral of this post. Rather than faking your orgasm to placate your lover, isn’t it better to instill dread by showing her that she couldn’t make you cum? This happened to me last weekend: After doing it twice at night, I woke up the next morning to find the girl itching to go again. We had sex for a while but it was clear I was tapped out and wouldn’t be able to muster sufficient motivation to finish. Eventually I cut it off, to her dissapointment. That was the first night/day we had had sex, and in the subsequent days she has been texting me and suggesting future plans nonstop. A worthy strategy, methinks.

  34. Back when I was still a lesser beta, I had a woman who was not that into me insist I give her another chance when I failed to climax — largely due to my nervousness and a long dry spell. I thought her request strange at the time because she dumped me after the I came on the second round. It’s interesting how men have been made to feel insecure about their ability to satisfy a woman, when it’s really a question of women being insecure about their own ability to satisfy a man. Perhaps she thought that if she could not satisfy a lowly beta like me, what hope did she have with an alpha.

  35. me says:

    There’s more than 1 way to skin a cat. Employ them all.

    Learn how to fuck, losers.

  36. I’m surprised there isn’t an angry ugly feminist meme yet.

  37. Anonymous says:

    How about men who lose erection from performance pressure? Betas?

  38. Will S. says:

    I see you posted a picture of the father of Jodie Foster’s children.

    Happy Yanksgiving!

  39. old guy says:

    FIRST !!!

  40. j says:

    about not cumming, the nuclear version of that is ‘accidently’ blurting out her hot friend’s name during sex (but have another word ready to claim, example: her if her hot friends name is sarah, when she flips out on you, you can say no baby i said “ah yeaa”

    btw only do this on a 7+

  41. Anonymous2 says:

    Fat women have low muscle tone, and are disgustingly loose, and are psychologically less arousing as well. Thin and tight women give and receive better sex.

  42. Anonymous says:

    Fake orgasms, I love it when women do that.

    • rickb223 says:

      “Fake orgasms, I love it when women do that.”

      Yeah. Fake concern/desire”. Two can play that game. ;-)

  43. Southern Man says:

    I remember once when I couldn’t finish (just too tired) and she was surprisingly loving and attentive during the next week. Being utterly without game at the time I never made the correct connection (I thought she just felt sorry for me!). As always, powerful stuff.

  44. Yards ad says:

    This is so damn true and funn to do. Have done it once when I drunkenly stuck it into a girl – then realized she stank down there. Was no way I was gonna continue, so pulled out and got dressed. She literally could only stammer nonsense as I left.

    Priceless.

    Enjoy your Turkey Day, America!

  45. Girls make us into the weirdo masturbators when really it’s them that slutted society into the gutter.

    Bitch, if I see a radical shoulder tattoo I’m used to it belonging to a guy I’m choking.

    Don’t look my way for flattery, though–you’re just not my type.

  46. Alif Male says:

    Thank you, thank you, thank you. I was sleeping with a woman I liked over the summer and it drove her insane (and not in a good way) that on two / three occasions I didn’t ejaculate. I couldn’t understand how she could take it so personally and tried to explain that it was just physical, not emotional – indeed I stressed that it was to her benefit, as it meant I could last longer and give her more friction …. all to no avail.

    She told me that no woman would carry on going out with a guy after he’d not come 3 times. It was like a ‘three strikes, you’re out’ policy. It still makes no logical sense to me, but I’m glad to read that I am not alone.

    • Bernado says:

      Women know instinctively that if you don’t ejaculate it’s shorthand for “gaddayum you’s ugly” and that’s how it’s taken. It’s the final level boss in their fucked up world of validation – you jizz they win, you don’t jizz and they ragequit and their brain implodes.

      next time dominate her hard and bust a nut thinking only of your own pleasure, tis a surefire way to make her happy.

  47. doclove says:

    I can personally vouch for the comment about a woman getting upset if you as the man do not ejaculate inside one her three major orifices(vagina, mouth or anus) or by her own hands at best or if at the worst you are unable to ejaculate in her presence with your own hands. It was usually after I had been “dejuiced” by another women too recently and after my erection wouldn’t go away in spite of my inability to ejaculate at that time. Despite many women’s belittling comments about men being “TWO PUMP CHUMPS”, women take a lot of pride in being able to ejaculate men’s penises.

  48. Mr. C says:

    I came … FIRST !

  49. doclove says:

    When women make belittling comments about men ejaculating too soon in general or to you as a man specifically, whether it is a “Shit Test” or an insult, men should treat it as a “Shit Test”. Your frame should be it is as it should be. The corrallary is I’ll do the best I can to please you, but if I got my pleasure and you didn’t get your pleasure, that’s your problem and not mine. Your attitude should be as long as I’m happy whether or not you are, it’s all good and just as it should be.

    • Diomedes says:

      The British PUA Richard La Ruina has a great frame control method for when sex goes sour:

      Say you lose your erection and are unable to cum. Forget all that nonsense about reassuring her and telling her it will be alright next time, (this – if anyone here needs it clarifying at this point – will not reassure, will not make you look attractive and is you pandering to her). Instead, calmly roll off, sit back and calmly proclaim “well, that was a bit shit wasn’t it. Never had that problem before.” This will put her on the back foot, give you control of the situation and you’ll be guaranteed to continue banging.

      It’s a great tip that works and everyone should try. Afterall, we all have problems now and again.

      • Anonymous says:

        Can you post a link to this Richard La Ruina’s entry? Thanks!

        • Diomedes says:

          It is discussed in one of his seminars.

          Either here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-unuqF4uklE
          Or here: http://vimeo.com/16758387
          Or in this set: http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2072562/001171985678/

          These are all very well worth watching and feature a great many tidbits. Keep an eye out for his thoughts on forcing IOI’s (which I have never seen discussed by another pua). While simple, obvious and something that those with game likely do, it is worth remembering for those who cold approach without the merest hint of interest from a woman.

          The jist: Most apprach based on spotting a girl they fancy and then going up, using a canned or situational opener and hoping for a positive response without a hint of prior interest from the girl. However, no matter how good your game is you are going to waste valuable time during an evening on girls who turn out to be unappreciative, whether a few minutes or hours into an interaction. You’ll be gaming a girl whose boyfriend turns up five minutes in or you’ll find girls who drop a no to bouncing after three hours of chat due to wanting to come/go with their friends. But, you can increase the success rate of your openers by forcing IOI’s. It is the principle of using non-verbal communication to engage with a girl and frorce a response from her before you approach. The classic La Ruina uses is doing a lap of a club and cheersing everyone. By doing this, you get a (good, bad, indifferent) response from everyone, can guage a girls current mindstate and filter out the ones who are not worth approaching. If a girl gives you a shitty look – she is a no go, may have a boyfriend, does not want to be picked up; if a girl huddles with her friends – she is on a girly night out and the chances of you isolating her from her friends to escalate is limited, you may waste an evening on a girl who does not want to go home with you; if she gives you a big smile and leaves her friends to talk with you – she is bound to be single, on the look out for a man and your chances of getting some are high. In essence, while game IS a numbers game, forcing IOI’s allows you to seperate the women who are interested in being seduced from the women who are not. This will stop you wasting time on women who are not keen.

      • n/a says:

        Here’s the best “frame control” of all:

        You failed to make me come. You have to learn how to make me come as hard as possible. That’s what matters.

        Don’t think you can say that? why not.–

      • doclove says:

        Great comment, and I agree.

  50. JD says:

    Don’t forget to take her to turkey town this holiday. Give her the stuffing she needs.

  51. Doc says:

    Years and years ago, when in grad-school I made the mistake of confessing that I hadn’t cum. I had been at a party and picked up this lovely little co-ed who was a freshman, you would have thought the world ended. Now the fact that we had had sex twice before going back to my place should have counted for something, but nope. She was crying and carrying-on how she wasn’t a woman and all sorts of non-sense. Although the next day she willing to do anything to “make it up” to me – so I can’t say that it was all bad. But after that, I learned to just bellow and collapse on top of any woman I was with regardless of if it was an act or not. At least then I got some sleep, and she was ready for round two in the morning – or later that night since I invariably seem to wake up after a couple of hours primed and ready for a re-match.

    • Emma the Emo says:

      Sex ed needs to focus on explaining these things more… It seems to only focus on pregnancy and diseases, but this is important and reduces drama.

      • Nicole says:

        For that to happen, education would have to be taken out of the hands of feminists. These issues are covered in some of the older, pre-80′s educational sex books.

  52. berg says:

    Hey Heartsy, you know the twitter comment on John Rocker.

    I don’t think they are a real couple. That giant gap between their bodies and his foot hanging out is suspect.

    If they were knockin’ boots that gap wouldn’t be there. Just sayin’.

  53. berg says:

    http://eyeseestyle.blogspot.com/2009/05/john-rocker-rules-out-comeback.html

    See, he and this blonde chick were having sex.

    But the black chick there is no touching of the hips. So no gettin’ it in.

  54. carolyn says:

    oh for god’s sake, a woman who does this is sooo dishonest. but i do suppose one desperate enough to hold onto a desirable man might include this strategy in her arsenal. so manipulative, such a betrayal of her own sexual aims. i mean, it’s not that tough with an understanding man-just tell him what you need, and if you feel uncomfortable doing so maybe you shouldn’t be sleeping with him in the first place.

    c’mon, i’m aware there’s a learning curve involved what with the female anatomy, but _all_ experienced women will come with a few minutes of female superior with enough foreplay. there’s no excuse to deny oneself if you go so far as to have sex with somebody. go all out or don’t do it at all. halfway measures are the worst.

    • evilalpha says:

      You’re missing the point. The faking is an attempt at bonding. She pretends to love the same kind of sex that he does in the same way she may fake having similar musical tastes.

      Quite frankly, since most of the positions I like aren’t the most female orgasm friendly, I feel disappointed if a girl, especially a new girl, doesn’t embellish her responses.

      Faking is a form of flattery.

      • rickb223 says:

        “he pretends to love the same kind of sex that he does”

        I wanna see ‘em fake anal WITHOUT screaming, crying and asking me to be “gentle”.

      • Emma the Emo says:

        If it’s an attempt at bonding, then it might be misguided, as faking interests in things you aren’t interested in doesn’t last. At least, I tried that a couple of times, I don’t know how many people can make it last (convincingly and without growing resentment). Cuz a relationship has its ups and downs, and during the downs, you will feel how hard you try to please that person, tolerating their stupid interests, and other things you pretend you like/lie about. That’s a crack in a relationship, and only a tiny bit of strain can propagate it. Ok in short relationships I guess, but wouldn’t recommend it to anyone wanting a LTR. I found it to be least torturous to admit you don’t like something instead of pretending, but engage in it to show you care about the other person.

        • evilalpha says:

          Faking it in an LTR ain’t misguided for a woman that understands the difference between hate, dislike, and indifference. For instance, most men would rather a girl pretend she loves to swallow, than to make a self congratulatory big fuss about how she’s doing it just to please him. Especially, since if she truly wanted to just please him she would just convincingly “open wide” and not try to also earn points that she will inevitably try to use on him later.

          If it’s anal we are talking about then by all means a lady can pat herself on the back, but for routine sexual stuff, faking enthusiasm is smart.

          And by the way, if a woman has such limited bandwidth that tolerating her “man’s stupid interests” is gonna push her over the edge. I suggest she refocus her limited supply of effort on his sexual preferences rather than his hobbies.

  55. GQ says:

    thirst

  56. berg says:

    Ahhh, now the body language is explained.

    Alicia Marie was having an affair with Alex Rodriguez for four years…from 2004-2008 (the article with John Rocker is 2006)

    So she couldn’t possibly have been John Rocker’s real gf, and the picture of the white chick is from 2009. Fake Relationship to prove he’s not Racist!!!

    Body Language Always Wins!!! Hips Don’t Lie!

  57. Ulf Elfvin says:

    What do you know…

    Great post.

  58. Michael Spurlock says:

    All true. Very true. But there is one other reason they do it. Western men have been taught women want gentle, passionless hearts and flowers sex every time, when in fact, a good many women will confess they need quite a pounding to get off. In some of those cases, they feel sorry for the guy who bought into the metrosexual lie. It’s not that they want to keep him, they just don’t want to hurt his beta feelings.

  59. Ian says:

    Interesting article. I always thought that women faked orgasms to keep their beta providers around, but it’s like anything, different people do the same thing for different reasons in different situations.

  60. Ulf Elfvin says:

    “There are going to be those times when a woman finds it difficult to cum, no matter how enamored of her lover she is. Men should know this and stop fretting all the time about fully satisfying women. Women don’t respect that kind of unmanly concern, anyhow. You’ll get a lot more mileage out of your flings and relationships with the attitude that your orgasm comes first. Chicks dig the self-centered man.”

    All right. But if you could pull off giving her great orgasms, without seeming concerned about doing it, wouldn’t that seem even more alfa?

  61. Michael says:

    Wouldn’t denying a women my orgasm be a fantastic way to game her in a relationship?

    • Betadyerface says:

      Only if you machine gun her while moaning like Chewbacca the next time.

      Reminds me of something I read about the three date rule for guys. Get her hot and horny. “Sorry I don’t have sex on the first date.” Location of the next date will be her bedroom with plenty of time to spare.

  62. lazy guy says:

    Yup … also, with a repeat lover, if they know you didn’t cum, they may suspect you’re saving your stuff for some other woman you’ve got — not saying that’s bad, but it will be an ‘issue’ in her mind.

    Also it seems women savor the power of ‘driving you wild’ and making you ‘lose control’ (your sounds, the look on your face, etc.), and feeling like they have control over you by pleasuring you. Some women have told me that’s why they like giving head. Okay one of the reasons…

    Also I’ve known women to be turned on by having me gush cum all over them (ie, lots of it), for various reasons.
    It’s great when she repeatedly gets such a thrill out of making you cum that she isn’t all that concerned about what you do for her…

  63. Anonymous says:

    Happy thanks giving kids

  64. Disdainfully says:

    Women love self-centered men? I don’t agree if you mean Narcissistic men!

  65. Anonymous says:

    Something fishy about this – I always thought women automatically orgasm when the man they’re having sex with exerts psycho-social dominance. If she no longer enjoys sex, doesn’t this mean that he has become a beta?

  66. dick fuel says:

    faking bitches.

    i should have known.

  67. OW! says:

    That’s damn funny. This has happened to me so often I just ignore it. Now I know it’s probably to my advantage. I also remember not being able to come in a local female celebrity’s ass one night after plugging her for an hour w/ an unreal boner. She cried.

  68. YaReally says:

    haha anyone who can’t get chicks off shouldn’t be out picking em up.

    “the little man in the boat? He’s up here!”

    This is the Internet, google some shit. At the very least, do your girls a favor and watch Squirting 101 and take notes on the techique the guy describes. Read some Sex God Method and all that shit.

    Now cue someone saying its supplicating to want to get women off lol

    • evilalpha says:

      World of difference between NOT knowing how and NOT wanting to.

      Drunken muff diving at 3 am on a slutty coed so I can feel like a “stud” ain’t my cup of tea. At that hour I’m more interested in getting mine and going to sleep.

      • YaReally says:

        Solution: pick up sober girls and take them home at midnight.

        • evilalpha says:

          Ain’t that cute. We got ourselves a midnight white knight in our midst!

          Around these parts we don’t do our fucking so we can get an “A” for equality. We fuck to ejaculate. Now, if the conditions are right and she can get hers… then awesome.

          PS. I hear that the best way to guarantee a girl is really, really into going home with you is to wait for her to make the offer. And since you have such high standards and all when dealing the the ladyfolk, I thought you’d like to know.

          • YaReally says:

            I’ve got two chicks coming over to fuck tonight dude. You can think whatever you like, I’ll be busy fucking your girls haha

          • YaReally says:

            P.S. what do you think happens when a girl tells all her friends what an amazing fuck you are and that you made her cum in ways her shitty previous guys could never do?

            The answer involved a shitload of curious pussy knocking on your door. But keep doin what you’re doing, you’re a “real” man lol

      • OW! says:

        The closest to oral Ive given out in five years is spitting in the bunghole.

      • Phil says:

        sounds awesome!!!!!! Points if she is Latina!

  69. YaReally says:

    And purposely not coming? Wtf. Do guys who do that even LIKE sex?? Here’s how you make a girl worried you have another girl lined up: cum like a firehose, then check your phone and tell her she has to go.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’ve faked it and had the little man not work after some drinking nights and ya it’s a huge mindfuck to the chick but wtf, why would you do it on purpose? That’s like ordering a steak dinner and then not eating it and thinking you “got” the restaraunt. Wtf were you doing in there ordering a steak if you didn’t want to eat it?

    Way to go, you didn’t get her off and you didn’t get off. BEST SEX EVAR lol

  70. Anonymous says:

    I can’t believe no one thought of the simplest answer: women fake orgasms because they think it pleases their man. Respect for alphas plus genuine excitement = trying harder. One would think alphas come sooner because they’re healthier, have faster, better-quality sperm and are more fit for fucking.

    I just love how all you limp dicks are rationalizing your impotence. Keep it up! Er, so to speak. LOL

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  72. Anonymous says:

    If I don’t come, I just think of it as “extended foreplay,” because I’ll definitely come next time we have sex! That’s the fun thing about multiple orgasms, it evens out the times when I don’t come.
    Sometimes, it is unnecessary to come at all, that 2-8 minute objectified sex, where I am there merely to serve the man’s libido.
    I’ve learned never to take anything a man does or does not do personally, it’s a waste of time and effort…

    • MayaLOVES says:

      Wow, I love your attitude … I hope you’re not joking.

      “Sometimes, it is unnecessary to come at all, that 2-8 minute objectified sex, where I am there merely to serve the man’s libido.”

      If some feminist read this I’m sure they would say you don’t value yourself enough because you are willing to be just an object to satisfy your man’s libido. Don’t you feel that doing things like this affects your self-esteem?

      I really hope you’re not just joking or being cynical … but I’m afraid you are (“I’ve learned never to take anything a man does or does not do personally, it’s a waste of time and effort…”)

      • Maya says:

        CH, Why can’t I choose any name I want?! Why can’t I say what I feel about you?! Do you think it’s not possible to be in love with an imaginary person on the internet?

  73. rickb223 says:

    As someone who has taught women how to “squirt” the woen who have to fake an orgasm need to face the fact that they are just frigid ice princesses.

  74. what says:

    We fake orgasms? hehe!!

  75. John Norman Howard says:

    “I don’t deny the company of women, Mandrake… but I do deny them my essence.”

  76. The Alchemist says:

    “other mate retention behaviors ” aka blowjobs. Girls give beta’s BJ’s so infrequently that the time in-between needs to be measured in months and sack bursting years. And usually never to completion. Alpha’s get them (and expect them) all the time.

  77. Wudang says:

    Irelevant to teh topic but great expose of feminism and the way it is evil indirectly:

    http://www.menweb.org/femexpos.htm

  78. peckerwood says:

    If you’ve ever brought a woman to orgasm, you’d know that about (plucking a number from thin air) 80% of them are sort of quiet, their body tenses along with various facial twitches (they all seem to swallow a lot at that point). Think of how many times, you’ve cum, how many times have you shouted out, maybe 1 out of 20. Embellishing is fun…at least to listen to, so maybe it’s also fun for the girl to make noise and egg you on.

  79. John Norman Howard says:

    Hey, as long as she don’t fake the cooking.

    Come to think of it… make-up, support garments, hair dye, equal competence in the workplace… what DOESN’T a woman fake?

  80. S-252 says:

    Some SSRI antidepressant make it extremely difficult for both men and women to cum. I can imagine what an effect a man on SSRI can have on women. Wasn’t there even a Sex and the City episode that had such a scene?

  81. rocket science says:

    Speaking of fake organisms and how to spot them:

    I have been with women, stroking away for a while, their skin dry and cool, and, suddenly, in the space of 30 seconds, they break into a dramatic, drenching sweat and their skin gets quite warm. Can this be faked? I doubt it.

    Now, how often do women actually orgasm without the drenching sweat part?

    But, back to this subject. It is obvious that women are deceptive and amoral. Faking an organism serves several purposes. But, the ultimate goal is to bind the man to her and her children, whether he is alpha or beta. Of course ,once the beta is ensnared (married and paying for her children), why would she bother faking an orgasm with him?

    I am not surprised that feminists mock men over this issue. They mock men over every issue. They are so sick.

    Oh, and it is worth gold to undermine a woman’t high self esteem and make her validate herself to you. That can’ t be overstated. So, a male faking an orgasm is really not doing himself any favors.

  82. laker lynx says:

    Reminds me of the woman from “Story of O” asking herself “what pleasure was she giving him, yes she, that this girl or any other could not?”

  83. Rum says:

    This is a great post. It finally provided the answer to a question I have struggled with for years. There was this woman I absolutely was cheating on; mind, body, and soul. And I had come to the place where all I really wanted was to tie off the loose ends and then get safely away from her. I guess it showed. Anyway, she started acting like she was cumming from me fondling her ear-lobes!!!
    I have known a tiny few women that could have tit-orgasms on a good day, but fucking ear-lobes!!!. I never really believed it, but wtf was really going on?
    Those episodes made me worry at the time that she was a seriously un-natural person and possibly insane and that getting safely clear of her would require a long distance move and multiple restraining orders. But none of that turned out to be necessary. She just moved on to another guy.

  84. Rum says:

    Women know, deep down and honestly, just how inefficient and prone to failure their cumming mechanism is compared to guys. And if they have spent much naked time with guys especially young guys they will have an expert, first hand, appreciation of how much of a loser at being female you have to be to go home without a sticky surprise at some happy point.
    So,if she does not find her mountain-top when she is with you- she knows how hard the mountain top is to find.
    OTOH, try to find a woman who actually dislikes a quickie. The 30 second kind that leaves her with an unsteady gait and juices flowing past her knees. And conversely, just how un-natural and un-welcomed it would seem to her if her guy could not could not give her that when she clearly needed it.

  85. Philly Beer Guy says:

    Chateau conclusions once again proved by science, this time for artists:

    “After tiptoeing through all their data and computations, the artists-and-sex researchers decided that “more successful male artists had more sexual partners than less successful artists, but this did not hold for female artists”.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2011/nov/21/artists-sexual-success-research

  86. Anonymous says:

    “Women know, deep down and honestly, just how inefficient and prone to failure their cumming mechanism is compared to guys.”

    Not true. I don’t sleep around at all–never have, never will– and actually prefer the company of my vibrator. Why waste time on someone when they 100% don’t care about anything beyond getting a nut? I hate to break this to you, but if you can’t make a woman come, she’s just not that excited about you: a real man can get the right woman exploding with next to no effort at all. Hot tip: stop banging insecure drunk sluts and might actually get somewhere with someone worth having. A woman like me realizes you literally bring nothing to the table. Fuck that, no thanks.

    [Heartiste: It’s like you copped cliches from the dictionary of tired, hoary, femcunt boilerplate and just puked them all over this comment.]

    • DirkJohanson says:

      Ah, the pretzel logic of the female mind; as if somehow no longer banging insecure drunk sluts is somehow inversely connected – if connected at all – to being able to get “somewhere with someone worth having.” If anything, of course, banging the insecure drunk sluts helps as practice – though on second thought, are there really any women worth “having?”

      If it flies, floats, or fucks, rent it.

    • John Norman Howard says:

      and actually prefer the company of my vibrator.

      I’m guessing many men would prefer the company of your vibrator to you as well.

    • askjoe says:

      wow, she sounds like the type of dynamic, vibrant, magnetic older woman that is eventually going to show the host the light, and get him over his unnatural addiction to thin, good looking girls. Until then, she’s got Mr. Flufkins and Ben & Jerrys to keep her company.

  87. yclept says:

    ..and sometimes women fake orgasms because men fake foreplay

  88. Southern Man says:

    Nearly two hundred comments and no one has posted this?

    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE&w=420&h=315

    If it didn’t work (and it usually doesn’t) this was an attempt to embed the fake orgasm scene from “When Harry Met Sally.”

  89. xsplat says:

    My experience is quite different on many points.

    I understand that this is a touchy subject to broach. I’ve never had much success introducing the idea of sexual chi-kung. Perhaps there is too much ego investment involved, perhaps it is just too much of a stretch of the imagination to imagine something that we have no personal experience with yet.

    There is a way to have sex that is quite different from what you are likely doing now. It feels qualitatively and quantitatively different. You feel the sex feelings not just in your dick, but also up your spine and throughout your body, and even in phantom-limb type areas outside your physical body. The feelings can be far more intense than any orgasm, and can last for a long time. If your in good health, you can have a peak sex experience for an hour or two at a time. Such sensations are so intense that you pretty well are forced to scream.

    When I fuck like that and don’t come, the girl gets no feeling that I wasn’t getting off.

    Another aspect of this type of sex is very sublime attention to sensations. Have you ever had a shared orgasm where as the girl starts to come you feel your sex feelings suddenly rise up, and it makes you join her in orgasm? There can be a feeling in a mutual orgasm that your energies are mingling. Whether or not this is an accurate description of physical energetic forces is immaterial. That is the subjective kinesthetic interpretation. Ecstatic union is an art form, that when practiced with skill and power can have a tremendous effect on your lover.

    Girls who have thought of themselves as incapable of orgasm, girls who have had dozens or even hundreds of previous partners and never came before can become able to come for minutes and tens of minutes at a time, many times in a session.

    People are generally energetically illiterate. I find it a shame. And what’s worse is that people stubbornly and dogmatically cling to their habits and beliefs about sex.

    Sex can be profound and powerful. You can feel intensely present and alive and poweful and feel a full force of love and skill and control and ability, all the while screaming your fucking head off.

    Yes, the girl should come. It’s important. You will feel her orgasm throughout your whole body. Her coming is your coming.

    You don’t have to release sperm. She won’t miss it. She’ll learn that you coming makes you tired, and won’t want you to come. She’ll want more fucking, when you fuck in this fashion. She’ll become an addict to your cock, and you will own her heart ,mind soul and body.

  90. Too Smart To Fail says:

    IMO, The sample size is too small in the above study to infer a strong correlation. It is an interesting experimental investigation I will say.

    From my understanding, and the consistant references to ‘gina-tingle’,
    it seems the motivational aspect to chase orgasm on the woman’s part starts with curiosity stemming from the tingle.

    Simultaneous Orgasms More Common with Hot Men

    http://bigthink.com/ideas/38940

    Again, is there a descrepancy on what is ‘hot’?
    Is it behavior or is it physical?

    Without devolving into research, I’m more likely to get and keep a strong boner, unleash a more powerful orgasm with blow a huge load with a beautiful woman than a tubbalard. Why would it not be the same for a woman?

    -Women orgasm more readily during sex with a handsome partner

    http://blog.soul2match.com/2011/07/21/women-orgasm-more-readily-during-sex-with-a-handsome-partner/

    -Woman orgasm more for wealthy men

    http://xsplat.wordpress.com/2011/11/09/women-orgasm-more-for-wealthy-men/

    As Rolio Tomassie (forgive the misspelling buddy) said:

    A.) Looks
    B.) Wealth
    C.) Game

    Pick 2!

    I admit, I have no game, but excel above and beyond in the other 2.

    So I have to ask, when a woman tenses up in my presence and assume a submissive posture, is this the state of high attraction in females?
    Or does she become outgoing, dominant, flirty, comfortable, and sexually aggressive? I experience both situations, but I never get laid, eventhough I have female acquaitances that will fuck me. One girl told me she wished I would just bend her over and fuck her pussy raw! But they never make a move or push for it.

    Matador, where are you buddy? You were saying something about toning down the flash, ostentatiousness, sex appeal. It is attractive to woman but I get the sense is also intimidates woman aswell.

    To me, why would I want to do that? It’s like telling me to stop making more money or stop working out or stop learning, educating myself, and experiencing more novel and stimulating pursuits.

    In college, I took over 20 credit hours in human sexuality as electives and was already familiar with the topics because it was of interest to me prior to enrolling. All of the research posted on this blog is not new to me.

    What is particular fascinating, is everyone’s insight, perspective, and contributions.

    Your feedback is more than welcome and appreciated.

    One more thing,

    Beautiful woman fake orgasms more frequently.

    http://newslite.tv/2008/12/15/beautiful-women-fake-orgasms-m.html

  91. xsplat says:

    People often embark on this new way to have sex after a single life changing peak experience of energy shooting up their spine. After some practice they can feel this sensation at will, and feel it especially strongly during sex. Amazing and life changing as this step is, it is but a small initial baby step on the way of profound kinesthetic re-organizations. Your neural network can re-organize such that it connects up more parts of your brain, and you become a synesthete with a central organ of perception being an embodied and present kinesthetic awareness. You will grow new types of sensations throughout your kinesthetic body that you never had before. This will affect not just your sex, but your every waking moment.

    And some non-waking moments as well.

    If this is a subject that interests you, I would suggest searching out continuing ed classes in Chi-kung in your area. Books and videos are also available, but I believe you’ll find personal instruction to be more inspiring. Another avenue of practical study are Daoist energetic practices. Kundalini practices are a bit dangerous, but you may want to risk doing them for a time. Back off when you get wiggy. Those practices are a bit like LSD. They can be so intense that they can by hypnotic and disorienting, even as you feel they are orienting. However they are useful to open up new perceptions and to shake your perceptions out of habit. There are also many kinesthetically oriented meditations from various traditions that broaden and deepen your sense of present self.

  92. Too Smart To Fail says:

    Also, How do Beta’s attract woman?

    It has been a repeating theme that eventually after a woman is done riding the cock-carousel, she settles for a beta, or that the beta accepts what woman will have him.

    Does this presume the beta is aggressively pursuing woman until a female accepts his proposition, or does the woman change mating strategies and selectively court men who display beta behavioral traits?

    I havn’t had any marriage proposals by reformed sluts or ‘nice-girls’ in my 32 years, but I will confess that married woman have demonstrated a much higher preference for me since the age of 17-18. I’ve had 4 sugar mama’s in the last 14 years who were married, but never had sexual relations with them prior to their husbands finding out. In retrospect, I was their eye-candy and they were all emotional affairs in exchange for gifts and perks. I was always in control of the relationships, never did I give up my power and give them the sex they secretly desired. Now that I’m more attractive, mature, and financially independant, the pool of woman who are single, emotionally free of bullshit and baggage and kids is dwindling. The younger woman I find attractive in the 22-26 age group are delusional self-entitled princess sluts and too immature for me. So I’m royally fucked as far as options go in relation to my standards of what I desire.

  93. ATC says:

    BOTM nominee: David the heroic, loan-seeking family man.

    http://www.advanceamerica.net/surprised/videos/details/david

    David is appearing in web ads for a payday-loan operator in an effort to scrub their image as loan sharks.

    This sad-sack grinder who, yes, works in IT, wears his white-knight, provider-beta devotion to his family like a thorny crown. (You can see his wife at 1:55 in the video; you will not be surprised)

    He is the very portrait of a defeated beta whose every minute and every dollar are claimed by others.

    The guy is decent-looking – if he lost weight and learned game he would do OK for himself.

  94. Deutsch says:

    That turkey’s face is pretty much what I looked like while reading this post

  95. theotherwhitemeat says:

    You don’t prefer the company of your vibro to a guy like you. Stop lying and be nice to some guy somewhere.

  96. Anonymous says:

    Alpha = blasting inside and several months later she wants to keep the baby and you’re not even around anymore

    Beta = “you want me to find your clitoris? is it in your purse?”

    Omega = it puts the lotion on its skin

  97. due to taking an anti-depressant, i really have to work to orgasm. it has given me much more confidence in the bedroom (or wherever) as I can pretty much control when I come. But the many times I haven’t DOES drive the women crazy. They think they have FAILED. My last wife I did the face fuck after sex so I could come. It was pretty much the best way to finish MY night.

  98. Anonymous says:

    You have no idea.. Really you don’t.. But then you have never ever really loved a good woman. Nor felt the love of a good woman and how it can really make you feel.

    Someone who loves you so passionately.. So perfectly in tune.. Not just an exchange of bodily fluids.. Something so much deeper..

    “women naturally experience less orgasmic release with beta lovers than they do with alpha lovers. ”

    More nonsense.. Women experience mindblowing orgasms with a man they love and trust..

    Women do not experience mind blowing orgasms because of technique so much as because of how they feel toward their man. Women are responsible for their own orgasms.. What works for one woman does not work for another.. It just takes time.. If a women cannot completely relax and forget about all else, nothing will work.

    I have been married for some years and I am deeply in love with my husband.. We have learnt together over the years what works for us… I trust him implicitly.. We are completely in sync..

    He just has to look at me and smile to get me going.. Such is the deep bond that we have.

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