Where pretty lies perish.
Sep 26th, 2017 by CH
Movies used to be this good. From The Fall of the Roman Empire (1964):
Are we more free now under our groaning Diversitopia than we were in 1964 when the US was 90% White? This scene wouldn’t make it past the cutting room floor today. There’s your answer.
True, I've wondered about that as well. The technique evident in this 13th Century illustration is comically juvenile. Why was so much Medieval art so bad?
Turns out there are many answers to that question.
One, most Medievel Europeans were simply bad artists, just like most people today are bad artists. A lot of the lowbrow and middlebrow graphic illustrations drawn back then were done by random joes, who felt the spirit, but not the painter's brush, move them. There were talented Medieval painters but their works were less common and usually hanging in some rich aristocrat's castle.
Two, the rules of perspective didn't get formally established until the early 15th Century in Italy. Untrained amateur painters and illustrators before that time would not have been acquainted with proper rendering techniques.
Three, there is a lot of great Medieval art, but it was usually found in decorative works like book bindings or music boxes, not so much in painting.
Four, it is possible that Europeans lost a lot of Greco-Roman realistic painting techniques after the fall of Rome.
Five, there is a theory that Medieval Europeans held the belief that realistic paintings using perspective were "an affront to God", becaue it hubristically mimicked God's creation. This is a controversial theory, though, because realistic paintings were created during that time.
If they had MBA-credentialed management consultants in 1850, this house would never have been built to those specs.
"I'm sorry, but your shareholders would appreciate the labor and materiel efficiency savings"
Candy is dandy, but Kovyor is quicker.
MMA
(Mary Mother of Asskicking)
It isn't fascism.....yet.
(and the sooner it happens, the better)
From the forest you were born, to the forest you shall return.
There does appear to be a loose parallel between jewish and Quaker histories. Both groups were (rationally) discriminated against in many economic and cultural sectors. They responded to the discrimination by pouring into the occupational fields which were still open to them: banking and industry.
The wealth each group nepotistically accrued from those endeavors allowed them to more effectively subvert the surrounding society.
It's good to visualize the geographical origin of many of the groups we discuss. Geography and group attributes are strongly associated through the process of evolution.
The Quakers originate predominately from the English Highlands. Mountain people tend to be more clannish (ethnocentric) than lowland peoples, yet the Quakers very early on developed a pacifist ideology that seems to contradict accepted theories of ethnocentric group psychology research.
It is possible Quaker pacifism was a form of group fitness behavior, by way of virtue signaling harmlessness and victimhood that would allow their group to more easily take advantage of host societies.
The Quaker Question.
I link this video for discussion purposes. We have a Jewish Problem. Do we also have to grapple with a Quaker Question? QQanon?
I'm open to this theory, primarily because I believe it would have been very difficult for jews to subvert Hajnal White nations as thoroughly as they have without some help "from the inside".
"H1B abusers"
This rhetoric is damning of Trump's real intentions. The crisis facing us isn't the problem of "abusers" of the system. The crisis is the system ITSELF.
We should be going after the H1B program in its entirety, not just the abusers of it.
Same with immivasion. We should be deporting all of them, not just the "violent criminals".
The System must be repealed.
Watching stuff that can’t be made today is great. We will get to imagine being in a world prior to the stifling PC speech codes. The battle scene in Zulu is a great one, as is Live and Let Die where James Bond single handedly offs all the evil voodoo practicing Jamaicans to rescue the white girl they wanted to sacrifice.
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Agreed. The thing about movies is, there’s a lot of money to made from them — if you do them right. Current movies are actually anti-feminist, with typically 1 token female in a cast of 4. If you cut out that X-traneous female, then you can deploy more action, more suspense … more real humanity (males being more real than femmes).
Just a figure for you: Avatar and Titanic, both by Canuck James Cameron, each made $1 billion plus. You can buy a few huge buildings for that sum. Used, of course. Used.
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If they let that scene into a movie about Rome today, they’d have to change the ending from the fall of Rome to an ending where those “barbarians” prove the “racist” senator wrong and end up building a spacecraft and calculating the trajectories that put the first Roman on the moon.
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Well, when you think about it, isn’t that what actually happened?
Granted, it took awhile. kek
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Yep! Vandals, Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Angles, Saxons, Jutes – all Germans, just like their descendants Werner von Braun and his team. The Soviets had their own team of (captured) German barbarian rocket scientists. Some barbarians contain great potential that merely needs the right conditions to explode into creative productivity while other barbarians – well, um, not so much…
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Which, perhaps, is the dividing line between barbarians and savages.
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Looks like Rome had better barbarians that what we’re being offered…
… at least THEIR barbarians, with a shave, could pass for kinsmen, amirite?
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100% keerict.
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Yes — we should be so lucky as to have high-IQ northern European barbarians pouring in on us in millions. The situation we’re facing would have been actually inconceivable to the Romans, no doubt.
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The Romans, during the states of entropy “achieved” by the later Roman Emperors, actually did allow some settlement within Imperial Borders of certain tribes who agreed to abide by the rules.
Even during Rome’s heyday, they were giving citizenship out to tribesmen who learned the lingua franca and didn’t trouble Roman veterans settling down in their territories. Pussy would marry gladiusbearers and you’d have a mixed Celt/Latin culture, and so on, until today we have “French” (Bastardized Latin), “Spanish” (more Latin patois), etc.
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Sweet Mercy, we new then what was about to happen. This was 1964, one year before the Immigration Reform Act of 1965. I haven’t watched this movie, but I’m willing to bet that it was made with the intention of delivering a political message and a warning.
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Clearly, the message was lost, or fell on deaf ears.
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The message was coming from the movie’s antagonist, not the star protagonists, don’t forget.
(((They))) were already painting it as the “opinion of the bad guys”.
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I remember these movies from that time, including this one – I was 8 years old in 1964 and I loved those epic movies about ancient Rome! Even back then at that tender young age I instinctively identified with the bad guys in these films while finding the good guys uninteresting – now I understand why.
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yep. tribally written, directed, and produced. producer Samuel Bronston was Trotsky’s nephew.
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Sure. Equality,freedom,those words used by Jews,by slaves. (Niggers) the good guys.
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If you know what to look for, almost every vintage movie on Turner Movie Classics is bursting at the scenes with Frankfurt School ridicule of our naivety & gullibility & stupidity.
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I’m convinced that the movie Patton was approved as a means for the Frankfurt School to gloat over their successful assassination of him.
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It will be different this time. Because shut up they explained.
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But…Vandalz waz kangs!!!!
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We wuz Vi-kangz!
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My personal life career trajectory will be to start in writing (I mean dumb-ass fiction that will sell to the undiscriminating reader), and then segue into movies and then form a conglomerate.
*stroking my chin repeatedly* I’m thinking of bringing some of this forum’s members on board ….. I need a good alt-right team. X.
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You’re stroking more than your chin, SaucyQueer.
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Dreams are important to have, Greg. Without them, we’re the living dead.
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Who said anything about your dreams? I was talking about your posting.
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*softly* I see men like Heartiste and others suffering under this bizarro-world liberal shitpile of a society, and a few dreams would do you — and others — some real good.
Especially if they come true. As I intend.
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*very softly* I see men like you and others suffering under this bizarro-world liberal shitpile of a society, and a few dreams would do you some real good.
Especially if they come true. As I intend.
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I’ve made most of my dreams happen already.
Maybe I have one or two more to go… at least one of ’em will require the assistance of a lot of fellow like-minded WNs… but that’s why they call ’em ‘dreams’, amirite.
I see by your (ahem) experience in the escort service you’re already well on your way to an Hollywood apprenticeship.
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The ass-pimple of the Chateau reappears. Wonderful.
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More real fucking talk:
I wish I could get an alarm clock that would wake me with these speeches every single day, especially the first one.
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Just record it as a sound file, save it on your phone and then set the alarm to play that file.
If you’ve got a mac, there’s a great program called Audio Hijack that lets you record any sound source coming from your computer.
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Someone knows his stuff! Impressed.
(I was in tech at the University of Waterloo, Canada’s best hard sciences university … before I uh started an escort service.)
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Honestly; the Glen Ross speech is a good one either way.
Sure you need to motivate yourself to do your job because that’s why they hired you but you also need to factor in your own goals and drives.
It was being done sarcastically but it’s legitimate advice, if your a family man and the job isn’t allowing you to do that. Quit it and get another job. If it isn’t serving your needs or drives, find one that is.
Otherwise by keeping a job that doesn’t do what you need and not doing it all that great, your just doing a disservice to both yourself and your employers at that point.
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OT–I’m of Vandal descent, but I promise to behave. That said, I try to come up with a new term for lefties. Basically, they’re campus trash that majored in shit studies and seek rents accordingly, that needs to be exposed to fight effectively. Shitlib is nice but a bit harsh and vulgar, also, it’s just an insult, so it’s not fitting for any situation. How about “rent-seekers,” “corrupt left,” “regressive left,” “precarious progressives”? Steve S. proposed Ctrl-left once, but that’s more of an in-joke, Joe Blow might not get it, also, that centres on their authoritarian streak, while exposing structural corruption should be better to shame them publicly. We should try hard to come up with something catchy, short, and aggressive. They call us racists or bigots, that’s pretty good tactically, everybody gets what that’s supposed to mean.
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Yeah; Cuck’s good but it’s not something you can really use in everyday conversation.
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Cuz, how can you keep referencing twitter without slaying libs on their own forum?
[CH: twatter hates me. can you blame them? i stand for everything they revile.]
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HIstory changes through the varied lenses of culture. For instance, when you look at the Roman Empire, which was celebrated in the Medieval and Renaissance periods of history, slavery seemed to be stamped APPROVED Europewide. But 21st century movies — movies being the strongest form of culture — skirts the issue of slavery (black, or otherwise). The movie Gladiator with Russell Crowe, which ZzI actually liked, was mum on the question of slavery. You don’t see slaves milling about, and the gladiators themselves are distorted as if they were forced to fight. In actual history, the gladiators were normally treated well (hard to replace a good one) and were not cheaply disposed pieces of meat.
Another thing about movies that interest Zzme is how much stronger they are than books or paintings at forcing new concentric circles to flow through the minds of society. A movie can break resistance. Even Television cannot easily do that except through repeated small-box repetition. ONE MOVIE — such as the Terminator franchise — can bring to the fore a whole issue … in this case, machine rebellions in the near-future. Everyone knows it because Jim (remember Zzme mentioning him?) Cameron brought it up.
Movies are fascinating. I’m gonna love makin’ em.
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Gladiator was very explicit about the men being slaves, bought and paid for, and the idea that they could “win their freedom” under extraordinary circumstances was hit upon several times.
And if you think the Terminator franchise was what brought machine rebellion into the public’s consciousness, you betraying the greenhorn solipsism of your generation, and certainly of your (ahem) ghey inclinations.
Open the pod bay door, Hal.
Not to mention Westworld and its various sequels, Colossus The Forbin Project, and a host of other sci-fi staples of the sixties and seventies.
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Argh, the ghey moderator got triggered somehow.
If it ever comes out of limbo, I dissuade your false assumptions about movies with machine rebellion themes, SaucyQueer.
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You are the biggest consumer of jew-influenced hollywood tripe I’ve ever seen.
You’ve seen everything from Halls of Montezuma to Breaking Bad, amirite?
Ridley Scott is waaaaaay overrated.
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Greg: I eat jew rye bread and I consume (((jew))) TV/movies/internet everydayz.
Yo!Yo!Yo!Yo!Yo!Yo!Yo!Yo!Yo!
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Everyone who pays attention here knows I’m a movie aficionado…
… and along with rye, I indulge in the occasional hammentash as well.
What was your point again?
You seem angry at not being able to keep up the rapier-like banter.
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Gladiator showed them living as slaves and training men who would never have been trained in the first place. Maximus would have had women, a nice flat and slaves of his own for instance. Men would indenture themselves for the glory of being a gladiator too, even well to do ones. It was comparable to being a pro football player.
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Of course, you don’t live in Manhattan. You live in Borough Park, Brooklyn. I knew THAT.
Grand Rabbi Pinchos Dovid Horowitz, The Bostoner Rebbe of New York and Chuster Rebbe of Borough Park.
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I’ve been outed… and I was never even in! :duckface
no-bones counts his fingers and comes up with yet another different number, go figger.
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Gladiator showed them living as slaves and training men who would never have been trained in the first place. Maximus would have had women, a nice flat and slaves of his own for instance. Men would indenture themselves for the glory of being a gladiator too, even well to do ones. It was comparable to being a pro football player.
Spartacus wasn’t fiction, kiddo.
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“if you think the Terminator franchise was what brought machine rebellion into the public’s consciousness”
Um, Blade Runner?
[CH: more human than human]
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Terminator? Blade Runner? How about Westworld? For the young, it was a movie long before the HBO show and 10 years before Blade Runner.
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White people should be making movies for White people.
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The Dominant Culture Narrative makes that impossible for men of less-than-honed steel. You’ve got to be made of tough shit to break down the walls.
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Tough shit in this case = a big pile of money. For production, advertising, and “f*** you” money if it flops.
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the reason this could/would never be made today is that it doesn’t need to be. the overton window has been pushed so far left that the senator’s message seems hopelessly quaint. “saving the empire”?? hahaha! WHAT “empire”?? Atlantis? Byzantium? puh-leeze.
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I don’t think America has even gotten off the ground yet as an “empire”. we did the manifest destiny thing and settled the West, but we still haven’t locked the whole thing down yet. there’s much work yet to be done.
America 2.0. it’s coming.
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It’s a sort of shadow empire, because Americans have always had an understandable aversion to open colonialism, even if our “leaders” always get a tingle in their tinkles from pushing around the world’s small fry, so they’ve settled on economically and militarily subservient “client states” instead.
Of course, such an “empire” mostly benefits on the ruling class, probably even more than old-fashioned colonialism, which explicitly refused to import cheap labor; they just exploited in foreign lands.
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Real act:
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Is that one of the dwarves from Bilbo that rises from his seat in the end scene there?
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as nixon said “the last 6 roman emperors were fags”
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He also said the Bohemian Grove meetings were “the most faggy goddamn things you could ever imagine”.
He was a very smart guy. I’m sure he could make the connection.
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Always partial to this one, myself:
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Pretty ironic that an Englishman is mouthing those words. Of course, they pissed away an empire too, so they know all about such matters.
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