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Chicks dig jerks, the evidence mounts and mounts (heh).

The latest (via r/TheRedPill) (here’s a link to the original 2007 pdf)

Cuing the inimitable gbfm: alpha fux, beta bux. Same as it ever was.

This accompanying chart deftly summarizes the study’s conclusions:

Male looks is not the sole, nor even the most important, factor in women’s preferences in a short-term mate. (sorry, wolfiecub) While being handsome and muscular helps, it helps more to be confrontative and arrogant. A prick. A jerk. An asshole. A self-righteous peacocking glibly-preening ego-teeming smug sonofabitch.

Confrontational? Arrogant? Influential? Hey, sounds like Poon Comandment XIII:

XIII. Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little

Touching a woman inappropriately on the first date will get you further with her than not touching her at all. Don’t let a woman’s faux indignation at your boldness sway you; they secretly love it when a man aggressively pursues what he wants and makes his sexual intentions known. You don’t have to be an asshole, but if you have no choice, being an inconsiderate asshole beats being a polite beta, every time.

The most interesting finding is the category termed “Influential”, which is also described as “social respect” by the study authors. It is, essentially, male personality. Charisma. Force of personality is what wins men the respect of their social peers, men and women alike. As it so happens, social respect aka personality is the only trait of male attractiveness that is equally valued in a long-term and short-term mate prospect by women. Game is the full spectrum enhancement of male personality, utilizing and amplifying the mind-body feedback loop, to increase a man’s attractiveness to women, and it is the only enhancement that will work equally well on ovulating and non-ovulating women.

Therefore, BANG for buck, Game is the most efficient SMV boosting protocol a man can undertake.

Charisma is technically asshole-independent, but it’s undeniable that charismatic men are more often than not willing to tinker around the edges of assholery. Being an asshole is itself something of a charismatic trait, and one which women respond to very strongly, in their vagina areas. So while you don’t HAVE to be a huge asshole, if the choice is between HUGE ASSHOLERY and niceguy respectfulness….choose wiseguy-ly.

The following quoted from the study is funny in a tragic sort of way: Men perceived as less faithful were rated as particularly attractive as short-term mates by fertile women. So if you’re hittin da club and da egg-releasing estrogen fumes are blowin your way, it pays to come across like a shiftless cad who will spin a plate, dump a fuck, show up late, and run amok. These are the men women LOVE LOVE LOVE to FUCK FUCK FUCK.

Related: Poon Commandment VII.

VII. Always keep two in the kitty

Never allow yourself to be a “kept man”. A man with options is a man without need. It builds confidence and encourages boldness with women if there is another woman, a safety net, to catch you in case you slip and risk a breakup, divorce, or a lost prospect, leading to loneliness and a grinding dry spell. A woman knows once she has slept with a man she has abdicated a measure of her power; when she has fallen in love with him she has surrendered nearly all of it. But love is ephemeral and with time she may rediscover her power and threaten to leave you. It is her final trump card. Withdrawing all her love and all her body in an instant will rend your soul if you are faced with contemplating the empty abyss alone. Knowing there is another you can turn to for affection will fortify your will and satisfy your manhood.

More Crimson Pill excerpts:

…when women are fertile they report greater attraction to men other than their partners, but not greater attraction to their partners.

As most of these studies do not find changes in [female] sexual desire across the cycle, sexual desire per se is probably not responsible for these effects.

Based on good genes hypothesis, then, this theory should anticipate that women would find men perceived to be intelligent especially more attractive when [women] are fertile. We found no such pattern.

Male feminist white knighting MENSA nerdos cast to the icy faplands by women of waspy waist and sultry grace. What else is new?

110 Responses to “Women Want Arrogant And Confrontational Men”

  1. tteclod says:

    “Based on good genes hypothesis, then, this theory should anticipate that women would find men perceived to be intelligent especially more attractive when [women] are fertile. We found no such pattern.”

    This merely proves what exceptionally smart men already know from life experience: only demonstrated dominance lures pussy. If you want to BANG, first crush the competition. That usually requires more than certifying an IQ test.

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    • Captain Obvious says:

      “Based on good genes hypothesis, then, this theory should anticipate that women would find men perceived to be intelligent especially more attractive when [women] are fertile. We found no such pattern.”

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        BTW, all of this is 110% compatible with the fundamental thesis that Lucifer created The Hamster in the female hindbrain so as to smell the slightest scent of WEAKNESS on you.

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        And also compatible with the thesis that at the very most visceral heart of their nature, women are utterly incapable of assessing STRENGTH in you, because your strengths lie in your forebrain, which is a place where women dare not look.

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      • plumpjack says:

        I had a dream about a girl in my orbit who was sending IOIs in real life. cute, sporty gogrrl type. I’d spoken to her a couple of times but she had a lot of hideous tattoos, including one of a stupid severed heart. slutty, but hey, I’m always on the lookout for a good bargain.

        so in the dream she leaned over and stuck her radiant ass up in the stratosphere and looked at me like, “come and take it”. after that I knew it was game on and all I had to do was press forward, swatting away her little tests like so many gnats.

        is that being a jerk? i dunno. but I can tell you this girl would smell wishy-washy, eager-to-please beta a mile away. so maybe being a jerk is just ignoring things that aren’t important to you and going straight in for what you want. like a cat. are cats jerks? yeah.

        caveat: this girl has a boyfriend now, and he’s a certifiable beta. so betas do get laid, just not in their terms.

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      • plumpjack says:

        … in the same vein, I have a buddy who does very well with cute girls. he doesn’t know anything about game. he’s just a friendly, masculine, decent-looking guy who goes in for what he wants. but he’s very nice about it. he puts girls at ease, which is interesting to me because I can’t help but put all girls on edge, except the worst, most predatory kind.

        I have to really soften my approach for most decent girls because I am already jerk incarnate. if I make an extra effort to come across as a jerk it’s multiplied x100 and nice girls will just wither and/or cry in my presence. maybe it’s just where I live. I dunno. everyone seems to be delicate little flowers.

        [CH: you might be hitting on these girls during the non-ovulating part of their cycles (3 out of 4 weeks, remember). if so, you’d need to emphasize beta bux and deemphasize alpha fux. but just a little. don’t go overboard.]

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      • plumpjack says:

        “CH: you might be hitting on these girls during the non-ovulating part of their cycles”

        interesting you should mention that. a girl I’m dating always seems to be deeply in love with me when she’s ovulating. then, as she fertility window closes, she starts to complain about how I’m not “supportive enough”. this goes on every month, like clockwork.

        it’s too bad. why can’t every day be jerk day? 🤔

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      • JR says:

        @plumpjack
        >>it’s too bad. why can’t every day be jerk day?

        That explains why Islam settled on four wives for each man…

        (I guess the math doesn’t work out, unless you go on a holy war for new brides.)

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      • plumpjack says:

        “That explains why Islam settled on four wives for each man…”

        I was thinking that, but you’d better keep them bitches separated:

        “Menstrual synchrony, also called the McClintock effect, is the alleged process whereby women who begin living together in close proximity experience their menstrual cycle onsets (the onset of menstruation or menses) becoming closer together in time than previously. “For example, the distribution of onsets of seven female lifeguards was scattered at the beginning of the summer, but after 3 months spent together, the onset of all seven cycles fell within a 4-day period.””

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_synchrony

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      • Vagina dominator says:

        she starts to complain about how I’m not “supportive enough”.

        “You talk too much.”

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      • plumpjack says:

        @VD: “You talk too much.”

        i might try that one again. lately i just disappear. silently. go out “for a walk” then come back three days later.

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    • da gbfm zlozozlzlzlzolzoozozo says:

      “Based on good genes hypothesis, then, this theory should anticipate that women would find men perceived to be intelligent especially more attractive when [women] are fertile. We found no such pattern.”

      This is why the core of civilization was to tie women’s sexual drives to the male creation of God and Honor via the patriarchy.

      Thus we gained a Galileo and Newton and the Sistine Chapel instead of grass huts and biglzozoz buttsztztztztlzzozozozlzozzz

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        “the core of civilization was to tie women’s sexual drives to the male creation of God and Honor via the patriarchy”

        GBFM, this is so very fundamentally metaphysically important.

        Civilization if and only if Hamsters are Restrained if and only if K-Selection.

        Unrestrained Hamsters == R-Selection == Barbarity.

        And we can’t have K-Selection unless Betas grow some ‘nads and start deserving to participate in K-Selection again.

        [CH: like da gbfm, i’ve always said that unrestrained female sexuality coupled with restricted male sexuality is a top shelf recipe for civ death.]

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        CH, that’s why I became so heavily invested in the PUA/Game.

        First studying the catastrophic collapse in Total Fertility Rates throughout the civilized world, and then reading/hearing anecdotally that incidences of L0VE-MAKING were declining across huge swaths of Our Race.

        I knew that something had to be done about it, but I guess I didn’t realize quite how bad things had gotten.

        Or how much worse our situation is capable of becoming.

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      • Johnny Redux says:

        ^^I’m offended by his manspreading. That negro has pimp hand. Talk shit, get the stick. Be nice, get my rod. Dems da rules, b*tches. Now makes me a river rat sandwich!

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    • Cracker says:

      i had to really change things up when i met some sweet girls after my LTR with a real ballbuster and being freshly redpilled.

      really hurt and confused one girl. she was always trying to please. genuinely sweet and i still treated her like crap.

      luckily she went on to meet a cool guy and she’s happy now. but man, i didn’t handle that situation well at all. could have really messed her up for good.

      hard to know how to manage a girl who is genuinely nice and sincere when you’ve had to deal with the crap that the majority of women out there will throw at you but that’s why it’s important to stop and really assess how things are going once in awhile. if you don’t, you can’t really do damage that may take a lifetime to repair.

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      • Captain Obvious says:

        C, I totally sympathize with you, my brother.

        Like I’ve been saying around here since forever, if you cross paths with a genuinely nice girl, from a good family, who has a kind & warm & gentle heart, and if you have any natural chemistry with her at all, then move immediately for BUNZ -> OVEN.

        These NAWALT chicks are becoming more rare than hens’ teeth.

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      • skorzecin150 says:

        Thing is genuine nice girls are so rare these days. Sometimes it’s just too late once you’ve found out they are legit. Sad world we live in #6754324

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    • Cracker says:

      *can really do damage

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    • Carlos Danger says:

      Mclintock week would be double or triple head week and anal in my harem.

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  2. […] Women Want Arrogant And Confrontational Men […]

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  3. Warrior of the Steppe (Restless Horseman) says:

    Things I intuitively grasped at 13.

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    • anomynous says:

      me, at about 33.

      Better late than never, still

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    • rocko says:

      So did I, even if it was by accident. For instance, I would unintentionally ignore a girl that was into me, until I realized what was going on, then I would go for the kill and watch her melt in my arms. In all fairness though, dating in middle and high school wasn’t too bad as long as you got the grasp of basic game, mostly because teen girls don’t ask for much, unlike when they become adults and ergo pains in the ass. Of course, I am talking 20 years ago, so I imagine dating in school must have changed big time. Teen girls nowadays have smartphones, so teen boys, inexperienced as they are, will struggle more to get their attention. That, and there’s the fear of hitting on girls for fear of getting accused of sexual harassment

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  4. Ripp says:

    OT to praise God Emperors ban on mutants. And not like we need more proof, but…
    EVERY. GOD DAMNED. FUCKING TIME.

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  5. mendo says:

    From Gamegary Game Ross

    ABC:
    Always
    Be
    Confrontational

    AIDA:
    Arrogant
    Influential
    Domineering
    Alpha

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  6. I love how “faithful” scores the lowest for ST relationship LOL. There’s literally a chick where I reversed her opinion of me (I had lost “alpha” with her) by cheating on her. It’s like their preferences are the exact opposite of ours you can hardly blame these good natured betas for fucking up.

    [CH: a relevant CH post dredged from the archives:

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/women-want-you-to-cheat/ ]

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    • Captain Obvious says:

      “It’s like their preferences are the exact opposite of ours”

      I got a reply in m0d to GBFM, but here it is again.

      Men’s preference == Civilization [if and only if K-Selection].

      The Hamsters’ preference == R-Selection [if and only if Barbarity].

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    • anomynous says:

      Yes.. no reason for blaming them.

      They just don’t see how what is stated is far from what’s thought, and what’s thought far from what’s wanted…

      “far” = “the opposite of”

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    • PA says:

      Scrolling through the comments of that 2009 post, you will encounter the now-extinct specie knows as the persistent feminist commenter. Remember those?

      And an even more rare thing, a male feminist commenter who sounds like he has a pair, not like a Strapon.

      A decade ago, intellectual public space (such as interesting blogs of any political orientation) was contested territory. Today, it’s all-polarity; the two unequal sides (we are the side with faith and initiative) face off from their secure garrisons, and any poor fool still in no-man’s-land gets incoming from both sides.

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  7. Anon says:

    Jordan Peterson ” Be a Monster ” -welcome and tame your dark side.

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  8. cortesar says:

    You’re welcome to join a freak show, or a circus. Not the armed forces. https://t.co/ZBEdbzZWNH

    — Tara McCarthy ♥️🇺🇸 (@TaraMcCarthy_14) July 26, 2017

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  9. E. says:

    And these are the same tedious women who piss and moan that their life is a mess and how shitty their baby daddies are.

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    • Captain Obvious says:

      Our Ancestors, may they rest in peace, created Civilization precisely so as to save women [and their ch!ldren] from the horror of this fate.

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  10. Passer by says:

    Straight from the horses mouth

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  11. It’s almost scary how much you can get away with and have women love you all the more.

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  12. Is success with women and success as a leader of men inversely related? It seems to be. Few men seem able to do both

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    • Captain Obvious says:

      “Few men seem able to do both”

      The Few. The Proud. The Conquerors.

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    • Johnny Redux says:

      Not really, men who are truly successful with women – real Alphas with great sex appeal and game (not good looking, but feminist cucktard like that faggot in Canada) tend not to get voted into office, or tend to get voted out of office, by overly sensitive, ugly, butthurt feminists and their beta cuck admirers. However, when shit starts getting bad, they instinctive start turning to the hard men again.

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    • vfm#7634 says:

      I think there’s no correlation. Of the Vox Day types, there’s Alpha (success with both men and women), Sigma (success with women, but don’t like trying to lead men), extroverted Gamma (flop with women, thinks they’re a good leader of men), and Omega (failures with both).

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  13. wolfie65 says:

    As with all ‘studies’ or statistics, it’s crucial to know who conducted them, who paid for them and whose agenda is being pushed.
    I prefer to rely on real life experiences and observations – they are always true to life, which is more than can be said for most ‘studies’, and I think my sample groups may be larger than most ‘studies’.
    There’s no question that women prefer confident or even arrogant men over sniveling pajama boy pu$$1es, but, as always – if he’s got the looks, how confident or arrogant he is or isn’t don’t matter a hill of beans.

    Conclusion: Be the edgy hawttie she really, really wants.
    If that’s not possible due to age, physical limitations or other factors, make lots of money or become famous.
    The End.

    [CH: older men who had charisma as young men will continue doing well with women as they age. old players never die, they just ease up on their exquisitely refined standards a little.]

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    • Doubter says:

      Well….doubling down on your position that’s been disproven time and time again is one strategy. Not a good one, but keep beating that drum wolfman.

      Perhaps if you improved your game you’d have better things to do than whining on someone else’s blog….

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      • wolfie65 says:

        No need to ‘double down’ on a position that is proven 100% day in day out and stands like a granite mountain.
        You keep believing in ‘studies’…….

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    • Carlos Danger says:

      Wolfie,

      I am 55 and my w*fe got pissed at me the other day because the maternity nurses all flirted with me when my kid was born. Ailene Prang was nice looking too.

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      • wolfie65 says:

        Carlos – not to be flippant, but on the job, nurses and waitresses will flirt with pretty much anything male – as long as there’s a male wallet attached.

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    • Carlos Danger says:

      TBH, Wolfie, you live in a hyper competitive environment. It’s better to hunt where there is enough game to go around.

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    • HungarianPatriot says:

      Hey wolfie, I’m a really good looking dude. Like I’m not saying this to brag I didn’t design myself but I’m def in the top 3-4th percentile looks wise and the top 10th percentile body wise (could do better there if I worked out more). Girls I date now literally gush about how symmetrical my face is, how they’re jelous of my perfect eyebrows etc. Guess what? I didn’t get my first bang till 18, cuz I had little game and I was shy af.

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  14. Big Daddy says:

    EPIC chart…I printed out and placed it on my wall…for eternity!

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  15. Johnny Redux says:

    Basically, rape fantasy, except without too much force, and with a man to whom they have no strong objection. Of course, the older the women, the less picky they become, and are willing to invite in(side) stinky brown foreign cocksa (see, Germany).

    What do men prefer for short term? Pretty, and not a b*tch.

    What do men prefer for long term? Pretty, not a b*tch, can cook and sweep a goddamn floor once in a while.

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  16. Mr Meaner says:

    Reply to plumpjack further up the page about his friend….

    I spent a long time overlooking the comfort phase and although I still got laid a lot, the price was a lot of flakes, a lot of ASD, a LOT of LMR and a lot of buyer’s remorse.

    Some of us can get better results by focussing more on comfort than attraction. But there’s a trick to it. She has to know, subtly, this interaction is about fucking. Sometimes logistics will take care of that, other times it’ll be in the way you communicate.

    Building comfort on a chick you haven’t screened for DTFness is dangerous territory and could result in blue balls – EVEN if she finds you very attractive.

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    • Vagina dominator says:

      This is why you have to start off with clearly sexual gazes, or closeness, or being handsy. Only then, some comfort.

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      • Carlos Danger says:

        This. I make it about sex from the get go but don’t advertise it verbally. Just do it. Comfort phase is my favorite phase because I have a high sex drive and like a lot of good quality sex. ONS don’t provide that, despite the hype.

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    • plumpjack says:

      good points, both m.m. and VD.

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      • plumpjack says:

        to further elaborate, my buddy who does really well with the sweet cuties does get FZ’d a fair bit by the hottest sloots. i’ve dated a couple of those through him that he was stalled on, but which I was able to pry open with my jerk-bar.

        i get hung up on the sweet, gf-material ones. maybe that’s a good thing.

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      • Mr Meaner says:

        It’s always easier to recover from being too much of a jerk, than too little.

        You’ll note that I said I got laid a lot paying zero attention to comfort, but nobody gets laid paying zero attention to attraction.

        BUT…if you drop the egg and don’t learn how to make a girl comfortable enough to do something slutty, you’ll lose a lot of chances.

        A recent ONS who had one foot in my bedroom threw out that old chestnut “But I’m a good girl,” and I (sincerely) responded with, “I know, I can tell by your perfect handwriting.” We were banging shortly after.

        My answer made no fucking sense but it was a comfort shit-test I probably would’ve failed in my younger days.

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      • Publius says:

        (((Trump))) giving Fed Chair job to the biggest Goldman Sachs criminal of all who should clearly be in prison or on death row but instead made 50 million in the first six months of this year and will be put in charge of everything. He basically caused the mortgage bullshit that happened from 2005 until 2009 and also oversaw about five other major fraud committed by Goldman Sachs –they are flat out fucking criminals killing white babies in front of our faces

        Goldman Sachs rhymes with Tucker Max.

        When?

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      • oink says:

        re: Publius

        how did the public get so dumbed down?

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      • oink says:

        Re: Publius

        This is why we lose

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      • Publius says:

        WCVOWOOT

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  17. cortesar says:

    I do not know if Rasputin was ever discussed here
    but the power that this paysan exercised over Russian female court is
    as legendary as it is baffling

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    • oink says:

      ((frontrunner)) lifts slobbered finger in the air
      “Hmmmm, I feel a change in direction”
      frontrunner shifts position

      habsburg papist, “shockt! shockt! at ((frontrunner’s)) frontrunning

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  18. Lars says:

    “Therefore, BANG for buck, Game is the most efficient SMV boosting protocol a man can undertake.”

    Disagree. Testosterone and Trenbolone injections are! B/c there’s no confrontational behavior with a cuck endocrine system.

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    • Captain Obvious says:

      Say goodbye to your sperm count.

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    • Cracker says:

      or how about you go build something, split some firewood, or have good sex with someone who really gets your juices flowing?

      never good to substitute chemicals for the real stuff. no matter how good the results seem in the short term, you are going to pay for it one way or another in the long run

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  19. Mandy been here a while says:

    Our ancestors understood this without a million dollar study.

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  20. eyesfrontmen says:

    Think we need to put all of these red pill confirming science results into a perspective that includes this one…
    Nearly all women feel intense remorse from casual sex regardless of where they are in their cycle.
    I draw from that, that their evolutionary development of mating drivers took place in an intensely patriarchal environment that conditioned the development and controlled their other impulses so that mostly healthy outcomes occurred.
    Which is why, now free of it, their mating drivers seem to create such dystopian outcomes for them. Like fish out of water.

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  21. vaguely human slav says:

    If I am reading that chart correctly, and I like to think that I am … being “attractive” is almost as big of a deal as being musculature. bigger actually.

    When I was younger, I’d say that being attractive was better but you can’t stay attractive forever but you can stay muscular. so that’s a win.

    When I was crossing over from being attractive to just a guy who was scary, I misheard a conversation and my date thought it was hot as hell. It went like this,
    1,me and the girl, talking.
    2. dude chimes in.
    3. I said something in which I apparently went jack reacher and said “I can’t fix your problem if you don’t go away” (and I think of myself as a nice guy).
    4. interjection ended, girl is standing in a puddle now “that was hot how you were ready to beat that guy down”

    At the time, I chalked it up to bizarre misunderstandings but if one were smart, one could have seen the real upshot as to what the result was with a girl was, even a girl (thin, blond, hot) who proclaimed she loved smart guys.

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  22. Anonymous says:

    Chicks dig assholes– the proof!

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  23. vaguely human slav says:

    fucking moderation!

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