Bill Bennett, former Secretary of Education and Drug Czar, correctly identifies and laments the declining fortunes of men…
The data does not bode well for men. In 1970, men earned 60% of all college degrees. In 1980, the figure fell to 50%, by 2006 it was 43%. Women now surpass men in college degrees by almost three to two. Women’s earnings grew 44% in real dollars from 1970 to 2007, compared with 6% growth for men.
…but then reverts to blind, deaf and dumb traditionalist form by laying the blame for men’s ailments at the feet of… I know the suspense is killing you!… men.
If you don’t believe the numbers, just ask young women about men today. You will find them talking about prolonged adolescence and men who refuse to grow up. I’ve heard too many young women asking, “Where are the decent single men?” There is a maturity deficit among men out there, and men are falling behind. […]
Man’s response has been pathetic. Today, 18-to- 34-year-old men spend more time playing video games a day than 12-to- 17-year-old boys. While women are graduating college and finding good jobs, too many men are not going to work, not getting married and not raising families. Women are beginning to take the place of men in many ways. This has led some to ask: do we even need men? […]
Movies are filled with stories of men who refuse to grow up and refuse to take responsibility in relationships. Men, some obsessed with sex, treat women as toys to be discarded when things get complicated. Through all these different and conflicting signals, our boys must decipher what it means to be a man, and for many of them it is harder to figure out.
Oh, those precious, pedestalized princesses, incorruptible vessels of Mother Mary love, doing what’s right and suffering the slings and arrows of men’s failings in reward. What’s a haloed lady to do when her heart is open to the love of a good man and all she gets is a parade of losers in her bed? The burdens of her gilded womb she will bear in martyrdom.
The bubble boy boundaries of the conservative imagination are never more evident than in its grappling with the sociosexual differences between men and women and the workings of the dating market. An appalling lack of understanding, of even a tangential blow with the truth about female nature, suggests that traditionalists and their offspring — Promise Keepers, Iron Johns, (some) MRAs, evangelists, etc. — have an allergic reaction to plumbing the depths of the human sexual soul, a revulsion likely concocted in a cauldron of sheltered life experiences and morbid fear of their own temptations.
Someone, anyone, has to pull the wool from their eyes, because their ignorance compounds a problem they rightly see as anathema to civilized prosperity. Their haste to lay the fault at the feet of men and to wholly absolve women of any responsibility gives the id monster free reign to lay waste to their utopian ideal. This is because it is the shackling or the unleashing of the female id, not the male id, that ultimately controls the destiny of a society.
So, a sincere plea to Bennett and his ilk: Get your heads out of the sand. You can start by repeating the following to yourself every morning in the mirror:
What’s wrong with men? Nothing that isn’t also wrong with women.
Men don’t “refuse to grow up”. They drop out, (or rather, beta males drop out), and with good reason, because the sexual market has been reconstructed to pander to female hypergamous impulses. Men can no longer achieve the clearly-defined status over hypergamous women they once could because the traditional field of battle that afforded them relative supremacy and, thus, attractiveness, to women — the corporate office — has, via managerial despotism strengthening PC and diversity to a state religion, lopped their balls clean off. And so men retreat from the corporate drone working world to achieve their status elsewhere.
Men don’t avoid marriage and family because they have a “maturity deficit”. They rationally avoid marriage and family because, as the institutions are currently constituted, they are a raw deal for men. Marriage is a risk made too great by misandrist divorce laws, and kids are a cost made too high by falling wages and tightening housing markets, of which part of the blame must go to women who have been voting for increasingly leftie and feminist-friendly governments since suffrage.
Men don’t play the field because they “avoid responsibility”. Men play the field because they can; because women, in their zeal to delay marriage until their careers have been established, to hop a parade of alpha cock during their roaring twenties, and to reward the players over the providers with their prime sexual access, have opened the field to men.
Men don’t “treat women as toys”. Men get the sex while the getting’s good because women allow — nay, PREFER — themselves to be toyed with by the kinds of men who are good at it.
In other words, Mr. Bennett, women GET EXACTLY THE KINDS OF MEN they deserve. Even more dispiriting to your conception of the universe, women get the men they WANT.
Women are the gatekeepers and the hadron collider tubes of sexuality. This has never changed, and likely never will as long as our biology remains rooted in the material world. The shape and direction of man is primarily an effect, not a cause, of the pathway laid out by women. The ancients you revere knew this, which is why they found it perfectly natural to restrict female power where they could.
For boys to become men, they need to be guided through advice, habit, instruction, example and correction.
Nice sentiment. But guidance and advice are worse than useless when they lead astray. Your advice should be customized to the reality you live in, not the comforting unreality you wish were real.
Someone once characterized the two essential questions Plato posed as: Who teaches the children,
Stone cold experience.
and what do we teach them?
To accept the darkness.
We need to respond to this culture that sends confusing signals to young men, a culture that is agnostic about what it wants men to be, with a clear and achievable notion of manhood.
The lunacy of thinking the culture is ultimately well-intentioned and all it needs is a proper scolding is the mindset of the fool, or a pity whore. What good is a “clear and achievable notion of manhood” if such a notion is unvalued by women? How achievable is this notion in a culture dictated by a cognoelite that has no use for it?
The Founding Fathers believed, and the evidence still shows, that industriousness, marriage and religion are a very important basis for male empowerment and achievement.
If conservatives are serious about restoring a traditional concept of manhood to the modern man, I have a few suggestions for them.
1. Industriousness will only be a worthwhile pursuit for men if they can extract some real status out of it to satisfy their guiding compulsion to attract women. This means removing women from the workplace, where female career growth acts indirectly to undermine male provider and leadership status, and directly through the feminization of the workplace.
2. Marriage will only be a worthwhile goal for men when divorce laws are gutted and reinvented to stop massively favoring women at the expense of men. No-fault divorce should be abolished. Child support changed so that men and women have automatic equal share of custody if the man wants it. Alimony abolished so that we never again see a callous situation where the ex-husband is writing checks to an ex-wife who initiated divorce and is now banging a new lover. Women who initiate divorce for any reason other than provable physical abuse should be kicked out of the house and made to get by living in an apartment.
3. Religion is dead in the water. The fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil has been bitten, and no one who matters in the developed nations can take it seriously again until they and their shrinking descendants have been purged from the human pool. But if you want a fighting chance to return religion to some honorable place in society, and to have men return to the fold, the constant, sanctimonious drumbeat of chiding men to behave must stop, and be replaced with sermons that take into account the fallen nature of women. Remember, women WANT to be led. They won’t abandon the church if their natures are examined candidly and honestly, and without fear.
Now naturally, few conservatives will take up this call to arms. Have you heard any of them discussing the possibility of rearranging contractual marriage, the workplace, and religion to make it easier for men to ascend to a gloried position in society? Have you heard any discuss the natural disposition women have toward men of higher status, and that catering to this disposition will result in healthier relationships? I haven’t. That’s because most conservatives are pussies. “From a pussy, ye shall stay a pussy” would be an accurate conservative credo.
Since none of the above recommendations will ever see the light of day, let alone become the law of the land, the Chateau counsel to forge a new creation by learning game remains unchallenged in its effectiveness and its nobility. The map men navigate has changed; their status and their honor now issue from a wickedly precise understanding of women’s sexual natures, an acceptance of the new culture that pervades, and a fearlessness in exploiting what was bequeathed them to personal advantage.
The answers conservatives do have are laughable. Bill Bennett gives his:
We may need to say to a number of our twenty-something men, “Get off the video games five hours a day, get yourself together, get a challenging job and get married.” It’s time for men to man up.
Yes, men, man up. That’s the ticket. When she cuckolds you, man up. When she rejects your gentlemanly kindness for an aloof badboy, man up. When she unceremoniously files for divorce because she got bored of your beta personality after she went off the pill, man up. When she takes the house, car, dog and half to fund her live-in boyfriend’s porn habit, man up. When she writes love letters to terrorists and serial killers on death row because her honorable hubby doesn’t amuse her anymore, man up. When she boffs the first douchebag DJ who comes along but makes a courteous accountant wait three months for sex, man up. When she devours pulp romance novels and vacuous feminized trash that desensitizes her to the value of real life men she can reasonably hope to attract, man up. When she gets aroused by a backhanded compliment but remains unmoved by a sincere compliment, man up. When she cries to HR about what she thinks was an inappropriate flirtation, man up. When she “forgets” to take the Pill and puts you on the hook for the 18 year enslavement, man up. When she gets multiple degrees that price her out of the mating market, man up. When she gets legal protections and favors that aren’t given to men, man up. When her every misdeed and misbehavior and poor choice is excused, man the fuck up.
Wow. What man wouldn’t want to sign up for this program?
Men will man up when women man down. The one must follow the other. The polarity cannot be reversed.
Absolutely right.
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That last paragraph is the key to ending this whole forty year debacle: women must stop acting like men and letting their vaginas lead them into the abusive arms of an asshole. Until that time, men have little to no reason to “man up” since they risk everything for precious little in return.
I would put it differently: MEN need to be responsible for women in their sphere of influence– their daughters, sisters, and so forth. We cannot leave women’s sexual behavior to the discretion of women, but must monitor and influence it within a patriarchical system.
So I agree with Bennett that men are ultimately accountable for this mess, but only in our acceding to feminism and “liberation” (aka sluttification) of women.
You are only responsible for what you have control over.
Techological issues have made it too difficult to control women. Women are no longer afraid of getting pregnant. Women have urban anonymity. Woman have personal income.
No where does pedestalization seem more prevalent than in the christian west.
Dueling needs to be brought back to society for men to have honor again. Then I can legally give this bennet fuck and every other white knighter out there the dirt nap they need.
Are you being serious with this?
Dueling would help solve the problem because you could challenge to a duel any man who is living on your ex-wife’s alimony, or soaking up your kids child support.
Dueling isn’t as easy you seem to think. The accepted practice was the man that was challenged got to choose weapons, to hedge against the number of challenges issued.
This man who is living off of one’s redistributed income, are they both an inferior marksman and swordsman? A worse wrestler? A worse boxer? Worse at sitting on a lit powder keg until one chickens out? All of the above?
This is incorrect. Historically, the conditions of the duel were up to the offended person, specifically, the person who demands satisfaction. An interloper would not be able to abscond with your lady AND be allowed to choose weapons after you demand satisfaction. In this context, the offended is the husband/father.
Yeah!
You seem to think it went away. We call it “gang shootings” nowadays. You know, young men fighting over obscure points of honor.
Gang thugs shooting rivals over 20 dollar bills do not equate to men of title dueling over their honor.
So very wrong, honor doesn’t have a price tag. Is it worth dying over $5, damn right it is cause it aint the $5. that matters, (jews seem to have a problem conceptualizing this)
Either that or some people can conceptualize it fine, but just realize when a concept is stupid and doesn’t serve their interest.
Had to bring the Jews into huh? Dicks like you must see Jews everywhere. You probably think Chris Jericho is a Jew because he was born on Long Island. Get a life>
And thus is the great conundrum of modern man. Never before has man been such a slave to another’s beliefs. The modern state is so effective in punishing dissidence, that any man who disagrees is jailed or relegated to a neutered “protest”, forced to battle the dominant forces at their own game. That is why the elite scoffs at OWS and similar protests: it is their game, and one they have mastered completely through countless victories.
The founding fathers foresaw that the state would outlaw the use of force to contain revolutionary pressure as it grew towards totalitarianism. Yet, even though the right to armed protest was enshrined in the second amendment, the state systematically suppressed and circumvented this right until it was void. Ironically, Americans can no longer defend their own interpretation of the amendments without being jailed. Thus, your desire to duel should be expanded to include your desire to exercise your second amendment rights.
Man’s most basic freedom is his ability to exercise force in upholding his beliefs. For all the hymns of the intelligentsia, this one violation strips a man of the only freedom that has any meaning. The men’s movement, at its core, is based upon this principle. A man can no longer be master of his estate, his family, or even his own liberty. Defending yourself can lead to imprisonment; you are at the mercy of outsiders for your most basic survival. This an insult to the very definition of masculinity; a man unable to defend his views through force is a neutered man. Force is the ultimate expression of liberty; those who exercise force will always control the destiny of those who do not.
And since force against the government is not an option, that leaves one to consider getting off the grid and living in complete anonymity.
I don’t think it really goes far enough. We need to reintroduce the rights of Paterfamilias.
I think the host protests too much. I think he’s never experienced the love of a magnetic, vivacious, experienced, lively, cultured, highly educated older woman.
Nor, I venture, has he ever ridden a rainbow-colored unicorn shooting Skittles from its backside.
All glory to the Skittles Unicorn!
Hmmm.
….
HAHAHA!! For the Win!
And where would one find those women again? Here, let me answer that with a thought experiment. What is the similarity between Santa Claus, an ethical lawyer, a girl that you just described, and Optimus Prime? The answer: THEY DON’T FUCKING EXIST!
That’s if one takes your words at face value. I’ll let others translate your description into what the words REALLY meant, as they can have more fun with it than I.
That’s great,you think so much!
Gold
“An appalling lack of understanding, of even a tangential blow with the truth about female nature, suggests that . . . (some) MRAs . . . have an allergic reaction to plumbing the depths of the human sexual soul, a revulsion likely concocted in a cauldron of sheltered life experiences and morbid fear of their own temptations.”
Wait … I thought mens rights advocates were exactly the group taking on the fight for men against feminism. If MRAs are blind, too, then who’s championing our cause?
[Heartiste: I said “some”. Their ranks are infused with many white knighters.]
Good post. Bennett is pushing 80 though, and I doubt he knows what these princesses are like these days. Most of my friends play video games, yes. But they also know how to load a dish washer, put shit away when they’re done with it, are able to hold down a job without constant freakouts, and have a grip on the economic realities of normal life. Bennett probably assumes that women of today also do these things. But the fact is that is just not the case. If Bill were younger and saw it for himself, he’d be playing xbox and drinking a beer too.
Most of my friends play video games, yes. But they also know how to load a dish washer, put shit away when they’re done with it, are able to hold down a job without constant freakouts, and have a grip on the economic realities of normal life
Exactly, girls aren’t good at anything except getting older and fat, bitches can’t even load dishwashers these days without putting supervision.
Too true. It seems most college age girls these days can’t even boil water. Forget about sewing or any other household choir.
Amen. I’d say roughly 90% of the woman I’ve been involved with can’t cook or do dishes. I just found out today my wife has no idea how to grill chicken (which I explained to her). What’s the point of a binding legal obligation to another person when I can do these things myself and won’t lose 50% of my money if things end badly?
I’ve discovered that a live in girlfriend can be a workable situation in which the man maintains supreme amounts of hand. Some key elements involved are total financial supremacy, and the ability to cut out at a moments notice.
Living comfortably off of the grid can enable the man to maintain power in a domestic situation.
That’s why you need to start calling them out on it as being frivolous and useless.
I’ll second that motion, my current girl has taken a keener interest in cooking because of my negs – speaking to her as if she were 5 and asking if she knew how to make toast or coffee, as well as showing appreciation when she makes something good, toning down the appreciation when it’s not. Every now and again I’ll take over and prepare something that’s lightyears ahead in taste and complexity and make it look like childs play, to let her know where her skills are relative to the bar.
Girls of today are literally useless at taking care of even themselves and given half the chance will avoid any work so that they can sit on the couch or go out and play. You have to lead by example, carrots & sticks etc.
Bill Bennett is a tool of a conservative and fell for the standard BS lines when making those statements. The real conservatives are the fiscal ones who seek to drive positive changes like lower taxes, ending entitlements, strengthening the dollar and creating positive incentive. If only Steve Forbes had more charisma he would have been president.
Perry’s new tax plan is no half bad. Best of all, it ends US tax dominion internationally. Right now, if you earn money on an asteroid orbiting off of Mars, you still owe US tax for anything over about $95k. Forbes endorsed it. He also wants to put men back to work with the energy push. I also trust Perry to push for tort reform. Lord knows we need it. I think he would also see the point of an article like this one.
To change the World is a beta excuse not to change himself.
AWESOMENESS!
This is why so many fembots are Jewish. They grew up in female-oppressive households, and so they turned their anger against humanity rather than against Jewish traditions. You can’t change religion, so they try to change the planet.
Hippies: ditto.
When you can’t change the problem, you change something else to mask your impotence.
Women on crusades is an old theme. What we are discussing in this thread and many others are in the end all reasons why women should not be given political power. Free diapers for everyone!
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Marriage will only be a worthwhile goal for men when divorce laws are gutted and reinvented to stop massively favoring women at the expense of men. No-fault divorce should be abolished. Child support changed so that men and women have automatic equal share of custody if the man wants it. Alimony abolished so that we never again see a callous situation where the ex-husband is writing checks to an ex-wife who initiated divorce and is now banging a new lover. Women who initiate divorce for any reason other than provable physical abuse should be kicked out of the house and made to get by living in an apartment.
So men can choose whether they want custody but if they walk away women are stuck don’t matter what?
It seems here you are writing the rules so that the man can do whatever he wants and the women is stuck with the outcome.
[Heartiste: Doesn’t feel good, does it?]
I don’t see any unfairness in what he is proposing at all. Why wouldn’t a father be entitled to equal time with his kids? That we would allow a woman (or man in theory but never practice) to unilaterally terminate a marriage involving children FOR NO SUBSTANTIAL REASON WHATSOEVER and then be entitled to collect a monthly child support check from the guy is insane. Is it any wonder that women are the moving force in the vast majority of divorces right now?
[Heartiste: Doesn’t feel good, does it?]
More like you being a deliberate asshole. It’s not about what’s good for everyone. It’s what’s good for you and the select few. There is a difference between advocating for equal custody, education for boys, etc. and rigging the system so that you always benefit regardless of outcome.
[Heartiste: The system has been rigged against men for quite some time now. A little taste of your own medicine helps wonderfully focus the mind.
As for actual policy, I’ll quote a Chateau post from the archives that lays out the position in more detail:
Absent children and proof of fault, there is no good reason a man should owe his ex-wife ONE RED CENT in the event of a divorce. If she stayed at home becoming best friends with Oprah instead of advancing in a pointless public relations career, that is her body her choice, and the consequences are hers to grapple with. To believe otherwise is to believe that the state should treat women like children, incapable of accounting for their own life choices. And if that’s the standard by which the state will act with regards to women’s post-marital entitlements, then I suggest the state extend its paternalistic logic to other realms in which women operate. A repeal of female voting rights would be a good start.
If a woman initiates divorce from a man and children are involved, unless she can prove fault by her husband she should not even get child support. I can already hear the disingenuous whining. “But the children will suffer! Think of the children!” If the children are suffering she can always stay with her husband, give them to the husband if she decides to ditch him, or put the kids up for adoption. If she wishes to give the kids to the ex-husband, but he’d rather not have his freedom and funtime curtailed by babysitting duties (and I wouldn’t blame him), *and* the divorce was his fault, he can have the option of paying child support in lieu of physically raising them.
hthurts.]
And now your contradictions are coming into the surface.
[Heartiste: Hey, no one said life is fair, or that choices are stark.]
Take this, for example:
If she stayed at home becoming best friends with Oprah instead of advancing in a pointless public relations career, that is her body her choice, and the consequences are hers to grapple with.
How does that square with this?
Industriousness will only be a worthwhile pursuit for men if they can extract some real status out of it to satisfy their guiding compulsion to attract women. This means removing women from the workplace, where female career growth acts indirectly to undermine male provider and leadership status, and directly through the feminization of the workplace.
If the husband initiates divorce, she’s fucked either way, heh?
[Your reading comprehension is poor. The abolishment of no-fault divorce means that a husband initiating divorce would have to prove neglect by his wife, or some other nullifying factor caused by her actions that renders the marriage insoluble. If proven, the wife suffers the consequence.]
The only way it does is if the woman is at the complete mercy of the man, which is what you are alluding to. Your solution just really sounds like revenge.
[Marriage under my system would not prohibit women from seeking employment, or earning skills that can be used later to find employment should the marriage fail. Pointing out the fact that a decline in female workforce participation would redound to the benefit of relationships and marriage by reestablishing a sexual tension between hypergamous women and higher status men does not remove the choice from women to pursue skills acquisition in anticipation of potential divorce. As the post stated, there is really no way to forcibly remove women from the workforce, not at this late date. You can only apply incentives and disincentives. Should more women leave the workforce to rely on their husbands earnings, they would be incentivized to behave better within marriage. Or at least to stop seeing divorce as a convenient escape from boredom with a beta provider.]
And now you are a liar.
[Heartiste: And you are a pedophile..]
The whole point of removing women from the workforce (deincentives as you put it now that I pointed that out) is to make them dependent on men.
[No, that is not the point, dumbass. It’s to reestablish beta male status and widen the acceptable dating pool for beta females. Dependency is just femcunt talk by people who only see the issues in terms of oppressed and oppressor.]
How can they find skills and employment if the system is already rigged to force them to find another man?
[Are you high? What, women can’t take a class while married?]
Truth is you could care less about what happens to those people.
[Whose “those people”? Lying cunts like yourself? True.]
Your only concern was how to find and trap young girls into a rigged system.
[Jesus fuckin krist, we’ve got a weiner here. No woman is “trapped” into anything. Where in this post does it say women should be forced into marriage?]
As for your divorce bullshit, on what grounds will divorce be nullified?
[Cheating, for one. Physical violence. I’m sure your pea brain could come up with a few more.]
Assholes like you won’t extend neglect to mean anything you want. Please.
[I can tell you what won’t qualify as legit grounds to seek divorce: a wife getting the itch to eat pray love her way into self-fulfillment.]
It seems here you are writing the rules so that the man can do whatever he wants and the women is stuck with the outcome.
For decades now the rules have been written so the woman can do whatever she wants and the man is stuck with the outcome. Men have zero reproductive rights. I wonder if that bothered you and have ever spoken up about it. Doubt it.
And you guys are debating with this cunt why?
Bill Bennett is indistinguishable from just another CHICK complaining that there are no good men and that the cads that pump & dump her need to marry her and stop using her.
Conservatives & liberals are just different sides of the same coin that is pushing American down the slope of decline:
Liberals fight to make new laws and introduce norms that FREE WOMEN from the chains of responsibility, while conservatives fight to keep the laws and norms that ENSLAVE MEN with responsibility. It’s a double whammy against men.
Conservative or liberal, republic or democrat — they are all full of shit. America is a plague on the world. We need regime change in America.
Bennett is indeed acting like a “CHICK,” but that can be strategic. If you make a frontal assault on the idols of the age, you will have to remain in anonymity, like CH. Otherwise you stick up like the nail that begs to be hammered by the full force of the culture.
For Bennett to speak pure, unalloyed truth would be to invite the full wrath of the commissars of the commanding heights, and he would cease to exist as a factor in the culture, like Michael Richards saying “nigger,” or Harvard President Larry Summers saying “math is hard” for girls, or Jimmy The Greek remarking that blacks are naturally good athletes.
At least I hope Bennett’s is a deliberate strategy. And if it isn’t, he’ll be dead soon anyway.
Either way, your mediocrity is no solution as forces are gathering for the decisive conflict.
I think you’re scrambling to make excuses for Bill. Its good he started the debate, but the general argument he makes finds no fault at all with women. He could have accomplished your stated objectives and still criticized women just a wee bit.
@Anon
perfect comment
This goes for white men especially; man up.
The bastard, white children of today are literally the only off-spring the world-wide white community will have a generation from now.
Fuck ‘em. Fuck ‘em all.
wake up white mannnnnnn
– men commit suicide at a rate of 4 to 1 over women. man up.
– men die on average 5 years earlier. man up.
– over 90% of workplace deaths are men. man up.
– men do almost all of the dirty, dangerous, and manually difficult jobs. man up.
– false accusations against men of sexual harassment and rape will rise in our Feminist Indoctrination Centers known as colleges because the standard of evidence has been lowered to “preponderance of evidence”, the lowest standard of proving guilt. man up.
– television is largely misandrist, especially commercials. man up. you can laugh about chopping a man penis off on television and suffer no consequences. man up.
– there are 8 million programs, groups, associations, and organizations to help and support women, about 3 for men. man up.
– more men are homeless than women. man up.
– most war deaths are men. man up.
– women have hordes of white knight pussy slaves and male feminist morons on their side. men don’t have the equivalent. man up.
– don’t ever mention any of the above in front of other men. that’s whining. man up.
CastleD, and to the Fmudd bud;
Last week there was this news item about women earning less than 18%, was on the first national channel and, the Gender Pay Gap was defined as:
“This does not mean that women are paid less than men for carrying out exactly the same tasks. Rather, jobs in sectors dominated by women tend to bring in worse salaries than jobs in industries dominated by men.”
So I wrote a post http://finndistan.blogspot.com/2011/10/smelly-media-morons-dictionary-gender.html; and posted an abbreviated version as a comment on facebook.
I will report on other replies later, but this one girl, a girl that I am actually involved with, starts to comment back. The usual stuff.
Until I ask her, “So our problem is that women earn 18% less for doing different jobs, while men miss on seven full years of their life by death, and while alive pay 30-40% more tax (progressive theft)…?”
Some blabla later, she drops the bomb:
“In case of dying young and paying more taxes maybe the person who died earlier than average can be happy to have his taxes used for taking care of another human being”
Any reply I would have given that I thought about would burn bridges with more people than I am willing to; so I asked her to look in the mirror and reverse the genders.
Just now I was commented that I am exxagerating.
Now, this is not a feminasty, it is not a lawyer cunt.
These words came from one of the most feminine and girlfriendly kind of girl that I met in the last years.
If even the feminine ones think like this, I got nothing more to say.
Today I threw the towel. A young man has got nothing, nothing he owes to the society or women in general. Going to the army, rescuing dimsels, being whiteknights (like few commenters I got); stupid. Idiotic.
Young man, pump and dump. As even for the sweet ones, your death is a happy thing because some ungrateful old bitchhag can buy a pimped walker.
You don’t have to win arguments with females in order to fully and properly control them.
It’s not in your best interest to come to a negotiated agreement with girls.
Your plan is to get them to fall in love with you, and have economic and emotional control over their lives.
You don’t negotiate agreements with them.
@Finndistan
most women feel entitled to enslave most men (which makes King A’s shaming of the comment above white-knighting bs)
CastleD wrote: “men commit suicide … man up. … men die on average … man up. … over 90% of workplace deaths … man up.”
Wah.
This sounds like a press release from a battered women’s shelter. What nuts you might have had just shriveled back into your body cavity.
You’re damn right you’re “whining,” and a particularly pitiable brand of whining at that, you weak little sarcastic ectomorph.
Here is a hint: Men don’t assemble grievances into a litany and embark on awareness campaigns. We assemble men and go on scorched earth campaigns until there are no more dissidents to throttle or awe into submission. Any man who still retains a testicular capacity already intuits the imbalance without your list of squeaky MRA faggotry.
Women/leftists: “What do we want?” “JUSTICE!” “When do we want it?” “NOW.” Teargas. Exeunt.
Men/conservatives: The basso profundo symphony of artillery, followed by the report of talking .50 cals, then the cleansing heat of hydrogen fusing brightly across the horizon… THEN: “What do we want? Glad you asked…”
You are actively at odds with the solution. You are part of the problem.
“Men don’t assemble grievances into a litany and embark on awareness campaigns.”
Then why do you leave retarded diatribes here?
Thanks.
Nice try.
I write for amusement. I write for the same reason I hit the driving range, for practice and routine, but more importantly to indulge the force beneath all vitality: will to power.
These higher needs are inexplicable (or “retarded”) to those who have no reference to a comparable ability. You’re the type of omega or woman who needs to be told why Hillary climbed Everest or why men approach tens rather than settling for sevens — but forever consigned to never getting it.
You think I would embark on an awareness campaign from the bowels of an internet comment section? Of course you do: that’s the simple calculus a mind like yours makes. It’s what L would do. And you’re deluded to imagine your unexamined pedestrian urges comprise the potential of man, and immodest enough to spew them anonymously without any self-mediation.
Yours was an honest curiosity, slave-mind. But like the contingent being you are, you couldn’t help but cloak it in uppity criticism born from cowardice.
Or, to put it in terms you might understand: I do what I do because I can, and you squeak in protest because you can only squeak.
Showing people part of the double standard is not whining, it is a chance to open the eyes of a few clueless.
After stating the double standard like CastleD did, one just has to say “now reverse the genders”.
If that blatant double standard does not open the persons eyes, then they are not worthy of your help, sympathy or empathy.
If they even stop even for a second, then there is hope. One man at a time; this will multiply geometrically.
Stalin sure knew how to use artillery and machine guns. Was he a conservative?
I’ve noticed that people on here tend to equate “right wing” with “violent” and “manly.” not necessarily the same thing.
You couldn’t have proven his point any more perfectly.
Well I don’t see you wielding an AK-47, assembling a small warband and going on a rampage taking on the establishment either you twat. So quit your whining, at least the MRAs are doing what they can with their means, and using the enemy’s very own weapons against it.
Someone print this out and tape it inside high school textbooks all over the country…..it’s a moral imperative!
Carrots and Sticks.
In a less backwards time, the ‘stick’, having to work a tough job and stay legally tied to one woman, was worth it for the ‘carrot’, a steady wage and someone to help you raise your children and take care of you.
These days, the carrot of ‘manning up’ (marriage, children, home ownership, money) just isn’t worth the stick that pushes it in front of your face (a greater than half-chance of divorce, child-support, alimony [all for someone who might be already making more money than you], cuckolding, outsourcing of your job, foreclosure).
You say ‘Man up!’, I say ‘What’s in it for me?’
Well put. Play the field and don’t make any major commitments to any woman.
Men who enter into modern marriage are fools who have no inkling of the legal ass rape that awaits them.
Maybe after they’ve lost everything (including their kids) and are funding their aging cougar of a wife’s lifestyle, they’ll finally wake up. But realistically, most of these guys will probably go to their graves still blaming themselves.
Beta 4 lyfe, indeed.
I think the host protests too much. I think he’s never experienced the love of a magnetic, vivacious, experienced, lively, cultured, highly educated older woman.
You forgot the smooth texture of wrinkles and that lovely elasticity of overused p*ssies!
“Men will man up when women man down. The one must follow the other. The polarity cannot be reversed.”
In the meantime, men must play the hand they’ve been dealt. We can point the finger of blame at various people, and for the most part we’d be right to do this, but actions speak louder than words.
Our time in this life is short, don’t waste your time trying to convince people who can’t and won’t be changed, lead by example.
I’ve spent the last few years of my life fighting various political and social causes, trying to get my voice heard, but I feel like the whole thing was a waste of time, my efforts trying to make other people change are far more inefficient than enacting change in my own life.
You’ve got two basic decisions, will you change yourself and will you change your surroundings? I’ve chosen both, I’ve been making a positive effort to change myself for a few years, the result of which being that I now have a well-paying job and far more success with the opposite sex, not to mention I am also much wiser now, and I am making plans to change my surroundings. As much as game has improved my life, I still can’t ever hope to find a woman worth my love in a western nation, and here in the UK the ever-expanding police state only gives me more incentive to get away sooner rather than later (not to mention the terrible weather).
You’re one of the fortunate ones, you know what’s really happening in this world we live in, you can do something about it by changing your life, if you’re waiting for the world to change to suit you you’re going to be waiting until you’re dead.
When Bill Bennett & Kay Hymowitztitz tell men they need to “man up,” what they are saying is that “men need to take it in the ass, like a man.” lzozozozoolz “men need to say, oooo yahhh i like da butthex from my fiat masters zlzozozlo ya gimme more tucker max rhymes wityh goldman sax butthex in my butthole and in my future wife’s butthole funded by the cenrtal beenrnkaee bankers zlozlzolzoz more harder faster harder faster for butthe defineth a man and manliness and the more butthex one gets fomr in the -betway neooconsths, the manlier one is.”
lzozozooz
dante placed the usuers–the fiat masters–in the same level of hell as the sodomites–the butthexers and secretive tapers of butthex without the girlths ocnthent like tucker max rhymes iwth goldman sax who teh weekly standadth reeates the lies of that he is six feet tall as he is aan heoric assocker lzozzllzoo
usury and sodomy were senee as crimes agaiants art and nature zzooozozlz no the neoocns reasoned that if they could get everyone to accept sododymy as a conservative tenet and if they could fund the assockcing of future wives and desoul them ,they could make the wivees fuyture wives loyal not to dante, god, hjesuss , chcildreren hudsband, but to the fiat masters, whereyupon she oculd destryoy the fmaily and assrape her husband in diveorce coutrrt and edleiver the proceddes to beernekeeks cneetral bankers zlzozollzzlo
Neo: What is the butthex fiat Mathrix?
Trinity: The answer is out there, Neo, and it’s looking for you, and it will butthex you if you want it to, and tape it secretely witoout your conthent, as goldman sax rhymes with tucker max lzozlzlzl.
many of scratch your head (or your balls lzozlz same diff) lzozlzl and go “wha hw hwat do tucker max and ben bernanke have in common?)
obviously you fucktwits have been too busy ploaying your xbox to read dante’s inferno lzozlzlzlzlzlzl
tucker max and ben bernanke would be right next to each otehr in hell according to dante, in butthexing distance.
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/05/28/in-dante%E2%80%99s-inferno-the-fiat-masters-were-in-teh-same-level-of-hell-as-teh-butthexers-i-ma-not-making-this-up-omg-lzozllzlzlz/
in dante’s inferno the fiat masters were in teh same level of hell as teh butthexers!!! i ma not making this up!!! omg lzozllzlzlz
the raison dat roissy and i gets along so wells is dat i play the striaght man to his funniness lzozlzllz
like he talks about all teh light hearted subjsted like game and betaherb h8ers lzozlzlz and i cover all teh dark things descening into hell like dante did in the inferno and shuddering at all teh secretive tapers and tapinsg off butthex underway.
hey you know whas funny?
i dant’es inferno the usuers were in the same level as heel as the butthexers.
in dante’s inferno the fiat masters were in teh same level of hell as teh butthexers!!! i ma not making this up!!!
the fiat masters were right next to the butthexers lzozlzlzl!!!
(14), Sodomy (15-16), Usury (17)
no wonder they hate the greta books in colleges lzozlzlzllz and prefer tucker max sodomites lzozlzl
http://danteworlds.laits.utexas.edu/circle7.html#violence
“those who violate nature, God’s offspring (sodomites: Inferno 15-16); and those who harm industry and the economy, offspring of nature and therefore grandchild of God (usurers: Inferno 17). Identifying the sins of these last two groups with Sodom and Cahors (Inf. 11.49-50), Dante draws on the biblical destruction of Sodom (and Gomorrah) by fire and brimstone (Genesis 19:24-5) and the medieval condemnations of citizens of Cahors (a city in southern France) for usury. Dante’s emotional reactions to the shades in the seventh circle range from neutral observation of the murderers and compassion for a suicide to respect for several Florentine sodomites and revulsion at the sight and behavior of the lewd usurers. ”
lolzozlzlzozozlzlzlzozlzzlzlzzozlzlz neocons hate dantes infrmnoo oolzozlzl
read da rest of my brillaine here: zlozlzzl
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/05/28/in-dante%E2%80%99s-inferno-the-fiat-masters-were-in-teh-same-level-of-hell-as-teh-butthexers-i-ma-not-making-this-up-omg-lzozllzlzlz/
i hope they serve butthex in hell!! lzozlzlzl
You know I worry about you, I really do.
No need to. He has good moral compasses.
GBFM is a Christian agent provocateur. He is slowly converting many of you even as you deny his power over your thoughts.
do you worry about dante, homer, virgil, jesuisu , moses, and mises?
den you SHOUlD worry about da GBFM lzozlz
for i am them and tehy are i lzozlzlzlozo
Don’t worry, much to your dismay you will one day understand him. I tend to think of him as some sort of modern day Cassandra.
GBFM wrote:
… da [sic] butthex [sic] … fiat masters zlzozozlo [sic] … rhymes wityh [sic] goldman sax [sic] butthex [sic] … cenrtal [sic] beenrnkaee [sic] bankers zlozlzolzoz [sic] … butthe [sic] defineth [sic] a man and manliness and the more butthex [sic] one gets fomr [sic] in the -betway [sic] neooconsths [sic] …
No, Jack Torrance. Bennett and Hymowitz are conservatively testing the integrity of the ÜberBitchShield built over The Feminist Century with minor sallies. They are lasing the target, as it were, for our (my) generation’s forthcoming broadsides.
But no. Purity, not results, is the zealot-ideologue’s true aim. Temporary alliance, strategic retreat, heck smart warfare itself isn’t just impossible for them to effect, it’s impossible for them to conceive.
With preposterous realities like these in your midst (and worse, regarded as perfectly normal):
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1730927,00.html
http://tinyurl.com/3cdkckf
… you pick useless fights with an octogenarian radio host and a modest contributing writer of an obscure journal.
GBFM, just wondering if analingus is considered sodomy..
Then again, given your comment above, maybe its best if I just don’t know.
Actually these severe prohibitions against sodomy in Dante during the Renaissance were in support of a Church reaction to a growing fashion for it in the 15th -17th centuries. Homosexuality had grown in popularity during that period of time and was greeted with alarm by the Papacy.
GBFM vs. fatass gambler Bill Bennett lzozllzlzozozllzzozozo (hey bill-instead of gambling away millions, why don’t you invest the moneys in great books for men programs at univeresties, you fat fiat fuck?)
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/04/opinion/bennett-men-in-trouble/index.html
Editor’s note: William J. Bennett, a CNN (communist neocon neoconning) contributor, is the author of “The Book of Man (lozozlzl he stole my title great books for men zlzoozlzzo butethexxx): Readings on the Path to Manhood. (to betahood mroe liekeit lzozlzlo)” Bennett is the Washington (inside the belytway with pro feminsist honah goldberg lzozozlz) fellow of the Claremont Institute. He was U.S. secretary of education from 1985 to 1988 and was director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy under President George H.W. Bush.
(CNN) — For the first time in history, women are better educated, more ambitious and arguably more successful than men.
(FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY YOU AASSSUFCK, THE WESTERN WORLD IS MIRED IN DEBT UNSEEN UNKNOWN UNDHEARD OF EVER BEFORE AS WOMENZ CREATE DEBT Lzozoozolozoozozo)
Now, society has rightly celebrated the ascension of one sex. We said, “You go girl,” and they went. We celebrate the ascension of women but what will we do about what appears to be the very real decline of the other sex?
The data does not bode well for men. In 1970, men earned 60% of all college degrees. In 1980, the figure fell to 50%, by 2006 it was 43%. Women now surpass men in college degrees by almost three to two. Women’s earnings grew 44% in real dollars from 1970 to 2007, compared with 6% growth for men.
(THE IS BECAUSE THE CNETRAL BANKS FUNDED FEMINSMS TO RANSFER ASSETTS FROM MEN AS ONLY MEN CREATE PHYSICAL WELATH AND ASSETTSS LZOZOZOZZ SO THEY TIAGHT WOMEN TO BE ENTITLED AND SEIZE PROPRTY FROM MEN AND BRIG IT TO BEN BERNAKENEK AS BEN CAN ONLY CREATE DEBT WITH HIS PRINTING PRESS AND THEY NEEDED WOMEN TO CONVERT IT INTO PHYSICAL PROPERTY WHILE ALSO SPYING ON THEIR MEN, ASSCOKCING THEM IN DIVORCE COURT AND ALSO WOEMN ARE MOR ELIKELY TO RAISE SLUTTY GIRLS AND VIOLIENET GANG BANGERS WHICH THE NEONCS LOVE AS IT HELPS THEM GROW THE STSTETA STEATETET STATE zlzozolzzolozllz)
William J. Bennett
In 1950, 5% of men at the prime working age were unemployed. As of last year, 20% were not working, the highest ever recorded. Men still maintain a majority of the highest paid and most powerful occupations, but women are catching them and will soon be passing them if this trend continues.
(YES YOUA SOSSOCUK AS THE WESTERN WORLD GROWN BANKRUPT AS WOMEN CREATE MORE DEBT THAN WELATH IN THIER JOBS OF DESECRATIATIN< DEOCNSTRICTION AND DEBUCAHERY lzozozloz)
The warning signs for men stretch far beyond their wallets. Men are more distant from a family or their children then they have ever been. The out-of-wedlock birthrate is more than 40% in America. In 1960, only 11% of children in the U.S. lived apart from their fathers. In 2010, that share had risen to 27%. Men are also less religious than ever before. According to Gallup polling, 39% of men reported attending church regularly in 2010, compared to 47% of women.
(THAT”S BECUASE JESUS CHRIST AS BEEN USSIFIED AND lzozozlzl OGH WAIT I WORTE ABOUT tHIS:
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2011/08/14/wonce-upon-a-time-mens-wents-2-church-2-find-a-good-wownenez-lzozlzlzloz/
“wonce upon a time mens wents 2 church 2 find a good wownenez lzozlzlzloz
wonce upon a time mens wents 2 church 2 find a good wownenez lzozlzlzloz to be a wife and mother and faithful honor cherish lzozlzzozlolzozlz
today woemnz go 2 churrhc 2 find a beta or gammamale to pay for their three children forrm three fatehrs who pumped dand dudmped theier zazzez afetr asszzcockcing them lzozlzlzlzo”
lzozozolooz you fuckcity neocon fucktRAD
If you don’t believe the numbers, just ask young women about men today. You will find them talking about prolonged adolescence and men who refuse to grow up. I’ve heard too many young women asking, “Where are the decent single men?” There is a maturity deficit among men out there, and men are falling behind.
“NOMEN ARE NOT CFALLING BEHIND!! IT IS WOMEN WHO ARE GETETING ASSOCKED N THEIR BEHIND BY NEOOCN HEROES LIKE TUCKER MAX RHYMES WITH GOLD MAN SAX WHO TAPES SODOMY SESSIONS ASSCKCOING TEITH GIRLS IN SCERTET AND IS PUBLISHED SIMON AND SHUSTER WOMENZ PORMOETED BY THE NEOCNCON WEEKLY STANDARDTH WHO HERALSDS HIM AS A SIX FOOT TALL HERO repeating his lies about his heiaght as neoncsn like lies exalting assockers zlzozllz!! LOZOZOZOO WHIL IGHNORIG THE TRUE HEROES DYING ON FOREIGN SHOERES IN FORENIGN NEOCN WARS WHILE TH ENOEONCNS TEAHC THE MILITARY WIVES OT LIE CHEAT AND STEAL zlzlollzloolz”
This decline in founding virtues — work, marriage, and religion — has caught the eye of social commentators from all corners. In her seminal article, “The End of Men,” Hanna Rosin unearthed the unprecedented role reversal that is taking place today. “Man has been the dominant sex since, well, the dawn of mankind. But for the first time in human history, that is changing—and with shocking speed,” writes Rosin. The changes in modern labor — from backs to brains — have catapulted women to the top of the work force, leaving men in their dust.
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY TEHE WORLD IS BEING CONQUERED BY LEFTIST CRETAORS OF DEBT AND DEBAUCHERY!! LEFTISTS NEOCN CREATORS OF DEBT AND DEBAUCHERY LOOZOZOZO LZOZOZO OMG LEFTIS CRETAORS OF DEBT AND DEBAUCHERY ZLOZOOZOZOZOZOZ Buttehehxtxujiajaja
IN WAR THE MEN WOULD RAID A COUNTRY, KILL THE MEN, AND SLEEP WITH ALL THE WOEMN lzozozl. TODAY THE BNANKERS SLEEP WITH ALL THE OWMENZ IN COLLEGE ASSOCCKING THEM LIKE TUCKER MAX RHYMES WITHGOLDMAN SAX AND TAPING IT SECRTEELEEY ZLOZOOZO, AND THEN INSTEAD OF KILLING THE MEN THEY LET THEM LIVE AS WAGE SLEAVES TO SOOMIZED, DEOSULED WOMENZ WHOE HAD THEIR SOULS ASSOCKED OUT OTHEM BY NEOCONS BUTTSECUAL “”ALPHA MALE (As they define aplha male as the ability to assock others oand place others in debt zlzlzozlz)” zlzoll HEROES LZOZOOZZZOOZOZ
Hanna Rosin: Are women leaving men behind?
Man’s response has been pathetic. Today, 18-to- 34-year-old men spend more time playing video games a day than 12-to- 17-year-old boys.
(THATS VBECAUSE THE UNIVERISTIES DEOCNSTRUCTED AND SDESTORYED THE GREAT BOOKS CURRICUCLUME LZOZOZOZLZLZOZOZO THE GREAT BOOSK FOR MEN INSTEAD PRESCIBING MEN RITALIN AND DRUGGIG THME UP AND DUMOPBING THEMD DOWN YOU ASSWIPE GANGLER GAMBLER BENENET G”AMBLING AWAY MILIOPNS INSTEAD OF INEVESTING MILLIONS IN GREAT BOOKS PROGRAMS WHAT” AN NEOCON LIBERAL LZOZZLZOOZ DC STatISTSIT ASSOCKER OF THE GEENRLA PUBLIC VIA FIAT DEBTGTHN lzzlzozozozo)
While women are graduating college and finding good jobs, too many men are not going to work, not getting married and not raising families. Women are beginning to take the place of men in many ways. This has led some to ask: do we even need men?
(LZOZOZLZ YOU NEED MEN TO WORK AS LIFELONG SLAVES TO MPAY OFF THE MASISVE DEBT INCURRED BY THE FMEINISTS “BENAKNKING “REGIMES OF THE WETSTS LZOZOZOZO)
So what’s wrong? Increasingly, the messages to boys about what it means to be a man are confusing. The machismo of the street gang calls out with a swagger. (AS THE WEKLY STANDARD EXLATS SECTRIVE TAPER OF BUTTHEX AND BULLY TUCKE RMAX RHYMES IWTH GOLDMAN SAX WHILE JONAH GOLDEBER AEXLATS FMEINSISMS ZLOZOZOZ) Video games, television and music (CRETAED BY LEFTIST NEOEONCS LIKE BILL BENNETT) offer dubious lessons to boys who have been abandoned by their fathers. Some coaches and drill sergeants bark, “What kind of man are you?” but don’t explain.
Movies (CREATED BY BULL EBEBNENETES NEOCON FRIENDS LZOZOZ) are filled with stories of men who refuse to grow up and refuse to take responsibility in relationships. Men, some obsessed with sex (SOME OBSESED WIT BUTTHEX LILKKE THE ONES THE NEONECS PUBISH AND WIRE FIAT CASH ADVACED STOO), treat women as toys to be discarded when things get complicated (THIS IS BEVCAUSE THE WOMEN HAVE BEEN ASSOCKED AND DEOSULED BY NEOCNS). Through all these different and conflicting signals, our boys must decipher what it means to be a man, and for many of them it is harder to figure out.
(DUDE__BEING A MAN IS ALL ABOUT CLALING OUT FATSASS BILL BENNTETETS WHO ARE GAMBLERS AND WHO HATE THE SPIRIT OF JESUS AND MOSES AND HOMER AND THE HOERES WAND WHO PRETENDS TO LOVE THEM BY WIRTING A BOOK OF VIRTUES WHICH HE JUST PLAGIAIRZED COPIED FRO OTHERS TO MAKE A PROFIT NEOCONS LIKE THEIR PROFITS FIAT DOLALRS ASSOCKING zlzoozooz)
For boys to become men, they need to be guided through advice, habit, instruction, example and correction. It is true in all ages. Someone once characterized the two essential questions Plato posed as: Who teaches the children, and what do we teach them? Each generation of men and women have an obligation to teach the younger males (and females of course) coming behind them. William Wordsworth said, “What we have loved, others will love, and we will teach them how.” When they fail in that obligation, trouble surely follows.
We need to respond to this culture that sends confusing signals to young men, a culture that is agnostic about what it wants men to be, with a clear and achievable notion of manhood.
The Founding Fathers believed, and the evidence still shows, that industriousness, marriage and religion are a very important basis for male empowerment and achievement. We may need to say to a number of our twenty-something men, “Get off the video games five hours a day, get yourself together, get a challenging job and get married.” It’s time for men to man up.
HY YOU FUCKATRD! THE FOUNDING FTAHERS ALSO BELEIVED TAHT WOMEN SHOULD NOT BE ASSCOKED BEFORE< DURING, AND AFTER MARRIAGE. BUT TODAYS WEEKLY SYTANDADATH REPORTS ON ASSOCKCKERS OF WOMEN AS HEROES< ASND THE WOMENSZ CHOOSE THE ASSOCKOEOEROS BUTTHEXUAL HEROES TUCKER MAX RHYMES WITH GODLMAN SAX LZozOOOZOOZOZL
BAsiclaly the fiat banking masters sned for their tucker mx rhyes with goldman sax asscocker to assock women and deosul them and beernaniky them, making women loyal firtst and ofoertemost to the fita dollar instaed of to man god and family. Then they banking masters ocmmand the owmens to assock their huds=pand in divorce court and transfer mens asseeettss to the nabnking centeral banking firat masters zzoozllzlzlzl
read all about it!!!!
http://www.cruelhoax.ca/#top
lzozolzlzlozlo
“Buttehehxtxujiajaja”
it’s metastasized, and I like it!
His comment,
“For boys to become men, they need to be guided through advice, habit, instruction, example and correction.”
Is completely true. You dismiss it as nonsense that will quickly be destroyed by experience, and that is true to some degree. But I think it’s important to note that boys have terrible examples and advice.
The teachers who raise them are mostly female and try to educate them out of manliness and favour girls over boys. Boys are taught that competition is wrong, and humanities are emphasized over subjects that men tend to like, such as computer studies, maths, and sports. Plus because it’s sexist to do anything against a female teacher a lot are utterly incompetent and just spend their lessons gossiping with students or playing with their nails.
Maybe guys could man up and stop being irresponsible if women would stop teaching them that they’re worthless and inferior to the women who are getting 60% of college places. Maybe men would marry more if their teachers stopped punishing guys for enjoying competition.
Good post. I see it as well. You can easily tell the men who had fathers from those that didn’t if you also grew up with a strong father.
time to women up and close your gina holes and butthole backfoor holes to douchtard asscockers!!! lzozozlzzooz
time to woman up and serve god man family children instead of asscoking god man family children and deconstructing the great books and classics!! ! !lzozlzloossl
GBFM vs. fatass gambler Bill Bennett lzozllzlzozozllzzozozo (hey bill-instead of gambling away millions, why don’t you invest the moneys in great books for men programs at univeresties, you fat fiat fuck?)
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/04/opinion/bennett-men-in-trouble/index.html
Editor’s note: William J. Bennett, a CNN (communist neocon neoconning) contributor, is the author of “The Book of Man (lozozlzl he stole my title great books for men zlzoozlzzo butethexxx): Readings on the Path to Manhood. (to betahood mroe liekeit lzozlzlo)” Bennett is the Washington (inside the belytway with pro feminsist honah goldberg lzozozlz) fellow of the Claremont Institute. He was U.S. secretary of education from 1985 to 1988 and was director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy under President George H.W. Bush.
(CNN) — For the first time in history, women are better educated, more ambitious and arguably more successful than men.
(FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY YOU AASSSUFCK, THE WESTERN WORLD IS MIRED IN DEBT UNSEEN UNKNOWN UNDHEARD OF EVER BEFORE AS WOMENZ CREATE DEBT Lzozoozolozoozozo)
Now, society has rightly celebrated the ascension of one sex. We said, “You go girl,” and they went. We celebrate the ascension of women but what will we do about what appears to be the very real decline of the other sex?
The data does not bode well for men. In 1970, men earned 60% of all college degrees. In 1980, the figure fell to 50%, by 2006 it was 43%. Women now surpass men in college degrees by almost three to two. Women’s earnings grew 44% in real dollars from 1970 to 2007, compared with 6% growth for men.
(THE IS BECAUSE THE CNETRAL BANKS FUNDED FEMINSMS TO RANSFER ASSETTS FROM MEN AS ONLY MEN CREATE PHYSICAL WELATH AND ASSETTSS LZOZOZOZZ SO THEY TIAGHT WOMEN TO BE ENTITLED AND SEIZE PROPRTY FROM MEN AND BRIG IT TO BEN BERNAKENEK AS BEN CAN ONLY CREATE DEBT WITH HIS PRINTING PRESS AND THEY NEEDED WOMEN TO CONVERT IT INTO PHYSICAL PROPERTY WHILE ALSO SPYING ON THEIR MEN, ASSCOKCING THEM IN DIVORCE COURT AND ALSO WOEMN ARE MOR ELIKELY TO RAISE SLUTTY GIRLS AND VIOLIENET GANG BANGERS WHICH THE NEONCS LOVE AS IT HELPS THEM GROW THE STSTETA STEATETET STATE zlzozolzzolozllz)
William J. Bennett
In 1950, 5% of men at the prime working age were unemployed. As of last year, 20% were not working, the highest ever recorded. Men still maintain a majority of the highest paid and most powerful occupations, but women are catching them and will soon be passing them if this trend continues.
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The warning signs for men stretch far beyond their wallets. Men are more distant from a family or their children then they have ever been. The out-of-wedlock birthrate is more than 40% in America. In 1960, only 11% of children in the U.S. lived apart from their fathers. In 2010, that share had risen to 27%. Men are also less religious than ever before. According to Gallup polling, 39% of men reported attending church regularly in 2010, compared to 47% of women.
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“wonce upon a time mens wents 2 church 2 find a good wownenez lzozlzlzloz
wonce upon a time mens wents 2 church 2 find a good wownenez lzozlzlzloz to be a wife and mother and faithful honor cherish lzozlzzozlolzozlz
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If you don’t believe the numbers, just ask young women about men today. You will find them talking about prolonged adolescence and men who refuse to grow up. I’ve heard too many young women asking, “Where are the decent single men?” There is a maturity deficit among men out there, and men are falling behind.
“NOMEN ARE NOT CFALLING BEHIND!! IT IS WOMEN WHO ARE GETETING ASSOCKED N THEIR BEHIND BY NEOOCN HEROES LIKE TUCKER MAX RHYMES WITH GOLD MAN SAX WHO TAPES SODOMY SESSIONS ASSCKCOING TEITH GIRLS IN SCERTET AND IS PUBLISHED SIMON AND SHUSTER WOMENZ PORMOETED BY THE NEOCNCON WEEKLY STANDARDTH WHO HERALSDS HIM AS A SIX FOOT TALL HERO repeating his lies about his heiaght as neoncsn like lies exalting assockers zlzozllz!! LOZOZOZOO WHIL IGHNORIG THE TRUE HEROES DYING ON FOREIGN SHOERES IN FORENIGN NEOCN WARS WHILE TH ENOEONCNS TEAHC THE MILITARY WIVES OT LIE CHEAT AND STEAL zlzlollzloolz”
This decline in founding virtues — work, marriage, and religion — has caught the eye of social commentators from all corners. In her seminal article, “The End of Men,” Hanna Rosin unearthed the unprecedented role reversal that is taking place today. “Man has been the dominant sex since, well, the dawn of mankind. But for the first time in human history, that is changing—and with shocking speed,” writes Rosin. The changes in modern labor — from backs to brains — have catapulted women to the top of the work force, leaving men in their dust.
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY TEHE WORLD IS BEING CONQUERED BY LEFTIST CRETAORS OF DEBT AND DEBAUCHERY!! LEFTISTS NEOCN CREATORS OF DEBT AND DEBAUCHERY LOOZOZOZO LZOZOZO OMG LEFTIS CRETAORS OF DEBT AND DEBAUCHERY ZLOZOOZOZOZOZOZ Buttehehxtxujiajaja
IN WAR THE MEN WOULD RAID A COUNTRY, KILL THE MEN, AND SLEEP WITH ALL THE WOEMN lzozozl. TODAY THE BNANKERS SLEEP WITH ALL THE OWMENZ IN COLLEGE ASSOCCKING THEM LIKE TUCKER MAX RHYMES WITHGOLDMAN SAX AND TAPING IT SECRTEELEEY ZLOZOOZO, AND THEN INSTEAD OF KILLING THE MEN THEY LET THEM LIVE AS WAGE SLEAVES TO SOOMIZED, DEOSULED WOMENZ WHOE HAD THEIR SOULS ASSOCKED OUT OTHEM BY NEOCONS BUTTSECUAL “”ALPHA MALE (As they define aplha male as the ability to assock others oand place others in debt zlzlzozlz)” zlzoll HEROES LZOZOOZZZOOZOZ
Hanna Rosin: Are women leaving men behind?
Man’s response has been pathetic. Today, 18-to- 34-year-old men spend more time playing video games a day than 12-to- 17-year-old boys.
(THATS VBECAUSE THE UNIVERISTIES DEOCNSTRUCTED AND SDESTORYED THE GREAT BOOKS CURRICUCLUME LZOZOZOZLZLZOZOZO THE GREAT BOOSK FOR MEN INSTEAD PRESCIBING MEN RITALIN AND DRUGGIG THME UP AND DUMOPBING THEMD DOWN YOU ASSWIPE GANGLER GAMBLER BENENET G”AMBLING AWAY MILIOPNS INSTEAD OF INEVESTING MILLIONS IN GREAT BOOKS PROGRAMS WHAT” AN NEOCON LIBERAL LZOZZLZOOZ DC STatISTSIT ASSOCKER OF THE GEENRLA PUBLIC VIA FIAT DEBTGTHN lzzlzozozozo)
While women are graduating college and finding good jobs, too many men are not going to work, not getting married and not raising families. Women are beginning to take the place of men in many ways. This has led some to ask: do we even need men?
(LZOZOZLZ YOU NEED MEN TO WORK AS LIFELONG SLAVES TO MPAY OFF THE MASISVE DEBT INCURRED BY THE FMEINISTS “BENAKNKING “REGIMES OF THE WETSTS LZOZOZOZO)
So what’s wrong? Increasingly, the messages to boys about what it means to be a man are confusing. The machismo of the street gang calls out with a swagger. (AS THE WEKLY STANDARD EXLATS SECTRIVE TAPER OF BUTTHEX AND BULLY TUCKE RMAX RHYMES IWTH GOLDMAN SAX WHILE JONAH GOLDEBER AEXLATS FMEINSISMS ZLOZOZOZ) Video games, television and music (CRETAED BY LEFTIST NEOEONCS LIKE BILL BENNETT) offer dubious lessons to boys who have been abandoned by their fathers. Some coaches and drill sergeants bark, “What kind of man are you?” but don’t explain.
Movies (CREATED BY BULL EBEBNENETES NEOCON FRIENDS LZOZOZ) are filled with stories of men who refuse to grow up and refuse to take responsibility in relationships. Men, some obsessed with sex (SOME OBSESED WIT BUTTHEX LILKKE THE ONES THE NEONECS PUBISH AND WIRE FIAT CASH ADVACED STOO), treat women as toys to be discarded when things get complicated (THIS IS BEVCAUSE THE WOMEN HAVE BEEN ASSOCKED AND DEOSULED BY NEOCNS). Through all these different and conflicting signals, our boys must decipher what it means to be a man, and for many of them it is harder to figure out.
(DUDE__BEING A MAN IS ALL ABOUT CLALING OUT FATSASS BILL BENNTETETS WHO ARE GAMBLERS AND WHO HATE THE SPIRIT OF JESUS AND MOSES AND HOMER AND THE HOERES WAND WHO PRETENDS TO LOVE THEM BY WIRTING A BOOK OF VIRTUES WHICH HE JUST PLAGIAIRZED COPIED FRO OTHERS TO MAKE A PROFIT NEOCONS LIKE THEIR PROFITS FIAT DOLALRS ASSOCKING zlzoozooz)
For boys to become men, they need to be guided through advice, habit, instruction, example and correction. It is true in all ages. Someone once characterized the two essential questions Plato posed as: Who teaches the children, and what do we teach them? Each generation of men and women have an obligation to teach the younger males (and females of course) coming behind them. William Wordsworth said, “What we have loved, others will love, and we will teach them how.” When they fail in that obligation, trouble surely follows.
We need to respond to this culture that sends confusing signals to young men, a culture that is agnostic about what it wants men to be, with a clear and achievable notion of manhood.
The Founding Fathers believed, and the evidence still shows, that industriousness, marriage and religion are a very important basis for male empowerment and achievement. We may need to say to a number of our twenty-something men, “Get off the video games five hours a day, get yourself together, get a challenging job and get married.” It’s time for men to man up.
HY YOU FUCKATRD! THE FOUNDING FTAHERS ALSO BELEIVED TAHT WOMEN SHOULD NOT BE ASSCOKED BEFORE< DURING, AND AFTER MARRIAGE. BUT TODAYS WEEKLY SYTANDADATH REPORTS ON ASSOCKCKERS OF WOMEN AS HEROES< ASND THE WOMENSZ CHOOSE THE ASSOCKOEOEROS BUTTHEXUAL HEROES TUCKER MAX RHYMES WITH GODLMAN SAX LZozOOOZOOZOZL
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read all about it!!!!
http://www.cruelhoax.ca/#top
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Jesus H. Christ, dude, don’t your fingers get tired typing all that crap?
So much truth in GBFM’s epic screeds.
Not only that, the data output is impressive. You must type 300 WPM.
Do you have mental illness or are you just fucking drunk?
do u have a tiny butthole or is rhyes iwth goldman sax using a baseball batt on your buteholliol ozlzlozozzlo
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Cant you type normally and then add the looozzzoloollozolzlz inbetween paragraphs? Id be interested in reading what you wrote but its really hard to read,
From what I read zorro, I’d say both.
heartiste
Men will man up when women man down. The one must follow the other. The polarity cannot be reversed.
A lovely thought.
In reality, the die is cast for American Entropy.
Change is not even close to happenin’
For when we leave the lucid confines of the chateau
displaying Common Sense in the outside world leaves one outnumbered 300,000,000 to one.
Until you change THOSE odds –
I think you called it “poolside?”
Or, as someone else said, “enjoying the decline.”
The most poignant example is the unfairness in the divorce system, and it is very suspect that conservative politicians have not taken up the cause of reforming these laws. But I don’t think its because they are pussies. I think its more likely that there are a lot of men that like that they can leave their wife and kids with relative ease.
I think the author is correct in pointing out that whatever is wrong with men is also wrong with women. I think that goes both ways. Currently, there is a sizeable population within both genders that has normalized divorce as an acceptable relationship choice that should not be judged by other people or society as a whole. They feel any attempt to make divorce more difficult, or discouraged, is a form of discrimmination against their me-first worldview. “Me-first worldview” is exactly the personality of every politician i’ve even known. Conservative men want to keep divorce easy.
Why is it when young men waste their time on video games it’s a societal catastrophe, but when women waste infinitely more time on shit like Twilight it’s a cultural phenomenon?
[Heartiste: Because your overlords want to keep you a nice obedient cog in the globalist machine. Chick pastimes are harmless from their point of view, because they will be valuable for their sex no matter what slop they squirt into their brains.]
I guess it’s part of the patriarchal privilege system…
Great observation.
This quite frankly is one of the best articles I have read ever. Fucking bravo.
What? You’re typing words but all I’m hearing is “Wake up white man.”
Nah, it’ll be great for white males to keep sleeping. The black will do just fine running things – just as they’ve proven they can do with major urban cities.
When people accuse me of being a conservative — largely because I consider myself a small L libertarian — I am amused. Bill Bennet is a conservative, and conservatives like him are idiots. Though other conservative principles — live within your means, take individual responsibility, don’t suck on the tit of the government — worthwhile.
But the social, cultural side of conservatism? Fuggedaboutit!!
Meanwhile, here I am, approaching 60, now unmarried, and a child of the feminist 70s (where, let me tell you the pussy pickings were UNbelievable)…I LOVE the world of feminism. I am banging married yoga princesses in their 30s and 40s, tired of their beta husbands many of whom have bought into the the bogus cultural norms espoused by Bennett and his tight-sphinctered co-religionists.
I love the combination of feminism and hypergamy. Just love it.
tenderman100 wrote: “I consider myself a small L libertarian … other conservative principles — live within your means, take individual responsibility, don’t suck on the tit of the government — [are] worthwhile. But the social, cultural side of conservatism? Fuggedaboutit!”
There is no “fiscal” conservatism without “social, cultural” conservatism. Eventually the cultural “liberties” that the dipshit libertarian worships necessitates protection and advocacy (and financing) from a central authority to shelter it from encroaching majoritarianism.
Devolution of power, as opposed to its centralization, allows for a consistent liberty. You can’t centralize some preferences while respecting the independent sovereignty of others, especially since your laundry list of which liberties deserve protection are preferential — i.e., made up according to your personal whim. (Unless you keep it short and sweet and self evident — life, liberty, property — as the founders did.)
In other words, if you insist the laws against, say, sodomy be repealed everywhere, you have to empower some authority to enforce it everywhere. If you conservatively allow polities to govern themselves, they will have to oversee (and fund) their own laws against drugs or polygamy or Happy Meals — or for mandatory church service or single-payer health care.
Turning every personal preference into a “right” is the libertardian’s favorite fetish, but that requires universalizing such preferences, which requires a universal authority. But these so-called “liberty” lovers are too busy protesting every minor deviation in their vision of perfect freedom to ever examine the deep incoherence of their thinking.
Wow, that is the most incoherent piece of rambling bullshit I have heard in a long long time.
… which is why you’re a libertarian.
It comes down to basic reading comprehension. And when that fails you, you fall back on the inane tropes of absolute liberty, which are self-contradicting.
But hey, you just work here man. You make the protest placards your boss told you to write. Keep those Sharpies fresh! We want those signs bold, intern.
I think you misunderstand what a Libertarian is. Most Libertarians could live fine with a system that allows for local jurisdiction of such issues. It’s what we had in the 19th Century where we had legalized prostitution and drugs, to include opium. Back then, partying was limited by imagination and technology. Guess who put a stop to it and guess who comprised the early Progressive movement? An alliance of women and Christian ministers seeking to outlaw sin once and for all and thereby create a utopia on earth. Sound familiar? Most Libertarians would complain loudly about California exporting their economic shackles to neighboring states as blue states have long attempted to do. There’s no need to call everyone an ass hat to make your point.
If you don’t mind me asking–were you ever married? I’m 28 and wonder where I’ll find women at 60. Is that a challenge? I also wonder who I’ll leave my money to because I don’t plan on having children.
Married twice. One kid who is 23.
At 60 you will no longer bang the 20 somethings on a regular basis, though it may happen occaisionally with the ones with serious daddy issues.
My preference? Hypergamous women in their late 30s and early 40s with Beta Husbands. POF, OKCupid, yoga classes. You need, however to be financially independent, workout aggressively so you have have a reasonable physique, sex drive and testosterone level, see a good dermatologist to keep your skin reasonable youthful.
And you game, Game, game, game.
I don’t want a “girl friend.” I want “fuck friends.”
Two things. First, the 20 somethings, once they get laid, are way more likely to be promiscuous. They’re at the bars, the clubs, the parties. The asses may be nice and tight but they are fucking this guy, and that guy, and some other guy. When you get around to them, they have been passed around like a beach ball at a bad rock concert.
Second, the married women who take care of themselves — yoga, pilates, etc. — have both quite nice bodies AND a desire for great sex, assuming the beta husband isn’t doing it for them. The relationships eventually become almost exclusively about sex. And they are at their sexual peak — horny as hell and ready for it. One married woman I was fucking had her tubes tied — two years we went at it, unbelievable porn like sex. One I have going now, a hairdresser and on her 10th year of yoga, can put her feet behind her head.
So, yeah, I am older, so my options are somewhat constrained. But let me tell you — it can be very satisfying, even now.
Good post and one of the reasons I consider women as you describe to be among the best lovers. They have learned to be comfortable as women. I urge all young men to have an affair wih such a woman. We denigrate them here needlessly and they can teach you so much in the sack.
Sometimes my health gets a bit iffy, and that question comes up. My family doesn’t really need my money or business, and I have no kids. I could give some dough to the girlfriend, but the business is worth too much to just hand over to a companion of a year.
All those years off effort, but I go, I really see no one to give it to.
I don’t like having kids. I do like planning to have kids.
So my plan now is to get fucking rich as hell – rich enough to own many houses, and then as I’ll have nothing else to do with all that money, to squeeze out some kids here and there.
Finding candidate mothers is actually quite easy.
To tell you the truth, I have no idea if I’m just leading my girl on with false promises, or not.
But today I told her I can’t marry her until she learns to give better head. So, whatever I’m doing, it’s working for now. There are happy dreams in the future and happy times every day. All at my direction.
I manned up, already. I learned game, I get my balls drained more regularly, and everytime, I operate a tactical withdrawal back into my mini-kingdom of gadgetry and porn… (yes, porn, I’m not a mPUA… yet).
No man in his right state of mind would want anything to do with modern chicks, especially the attractive young ones, except hot wet casual sex.
Fuck love, fuck civilization, fuck bill fucking bennett. I didn’t ask for any of that shit.
You can love. Love is not evil. Love won’t ever be corrupted.
It just can’t be bought, corralled, Bernankified, butthexed, or harassed in any way by modern fascist social engineering tools like marriage.
Just tell her that “Love remains at its purest when it is most free. Chaining my love with the shackles of government intrusion will diminish it.”
I may love a virgin if i ever meet her. The damaged goods can find another chump to fill their emotional needs.
I’ll agree with Rev. Love is still an option. You just have to be more creative and skilled now that social institutions don’t institutionalize your entire family architecture for you.
because they will be valuable for their sex no matter what slop they squirt into their brains
thank God I wasn’t taking a drink when I read that.
Unfortunately, some women want to be valuable because of what their brain contains, and women seem willing to ingest many different strains of crazy, from gay besties to yoga to dog yoga to voting rights for dogs, and blind devotion to a certain disaster of a president as he leads us into the next depression and dissolution of our borders.
The USA is simply too large and too heterogeneous to have a meaningful cultural definition of masculinity which applies to the entire society. Things barely held together before when America was 130 million, 90% European extraction: imagine how pointless it is today when we have 330 million with every possible, language, culture, religion, ethnicity, hue, color and shade under the sun.
You can’t maintain the old notion of masculinity without also maintaining the actual population which gave it life…
Bennett is a turd that just won’t flush. He is a little nugget of floating shit that just goes around and around the bowl. No one cares what he says about anything.
It’s not as if any man will say “Bill is right! I must man up and get married ASAP!”
Perhaps he gains some power in attracting cheerleeders.
Correct assessment that his rhetoric will not persuade.
money, man, money
Nice rant.
Now, learning game is a fine pursuit in and of itself; but for those who still harbor some hope that the traditional West will get a seat at the table when the Muslims (and perhaps Mormons), arrange the new world; putting at least some slight effort towards undermining the Leviathan governments that enable this sorry state is a worthy undertaking, too.
Blaming women is about as useful as blaming a dog for barking. As is blaming alphas for ascending to the top of social hierarchies, and acting like self centered assholes. Duh!
What is needed, is the destruction of the hierarchies themselves, without replacing them with any new ones. Even those, like Bennet I’m sure, who erroneously believe chucking 5-10 pound, sharp edged rocks at adulteresses until their cranium cracks, is somehow a bad thing; ought to at least recognize that forcing third parties to pay up to hire someone to protect said adulteresses is even worse. Internalize that, and all the wisdom that flows from it, and we’ll go toe to toe with the Muslims again in no time.
” Even those, like Bennet I’m sure, who erroneously believe chucking 5-10 pound, sharp edged rocks at adulteresses until their cranium cracks, is somehow a bad thing;”
holy hell. and i thought you were mortgaging your future to protect afghan chicks from honor killings. no fucking wonder i kno of SEALs who question why theyre still playing capture the flag there. and yet you speak of “muslim world orders” as if u have a clue.
They’re pretty determined. I used to know a man who worked on the Iranian nuke plant in Buschehr Iran as a foreman and saw the revolution there first hand in 1979. He even showed me plans of the sections he was responsible for building. He predicted our current troubles with them in the mid 90s. “My home is where my Mosque is.” They’re very determined. This will be a long and fateful war. We will find our manhood again in it. The cost will be high. Remember, however, that one Norman knight was worth ten Turks. Our Geoffrey of Bohemond and Baldwin the 1st will come as well.
“We will find our manhood again in it. The cost will be high”
Bullshit. Just like we found it in Irak and Afghanistan. An asymetrical war doesn’t cut it, son. We won’t find our manhood when the B2s and the F16s do all the dirty work.
What makes you think it would stay assymetrical? What makes you think it will stay overseas?
“They’re pretty determined.”
oh yeah? what makes you say that; the fact they have invaded and occupied numerous oil wealthy nations and others of geostrategic importance?
heres another clue: iran has a nuclear program because the Shah was encouraged to get one going by the people who overthrew Mossadegh. the revolution happened for the same fucking reasons you guys went to war w the brits back in the day. you guys are run by bernankified neocons, iranians by fundamentalist mullahs. think you’re really so much better?
You’re right. Go to Tehran and see how much better they live. Return and teach us their way.
The fact that they systematically infiltrate and demand to redefine their host countries along Islamic lines. They have chosen us in the West as their benchmark for success- the enemy they need to define themselves. They attack us but cannot match us. They are nations of overpopulated, sexually frustrated and angry young men with no hope for the future because their economies are stifled by cronyism based on proximity to a dictatorial oligarchical class. They have been told for decades that the US and Israel prevent their happiness and the nation’s prosperity. The Arab Spring will end up being controlled by the most ruthless and best organized faction, most likely the Fundamentalists. The fact that the Islamic World is gripped by a phenomenon called Pan-Arab nationalism and that they look back to their siege of Vienna as their finest hour. The fact that Europeans are not breeding. Europe will become Muslim or there will be a race war to prevent it. I bet you’re not a Norman knight, are you?
Muslim/Afghan Tribal customs for dealing with infidelity, saves many more women from death by VDs alone, than they ever manage to cull by honor killings. Just one more reason why some cultures experience growing populations, while others do not. Guess which ones will inherit the earth.
“Blaming women is about as useful as blaming a dog for barking. As is blaming alphas for ascending to the top of social hierarchies, and acting like self centered assholes. Duh!”
Yeah, unless you think that people should be held accountable for their actions. The difference between the dog and the human female or alpha is that humans have the capacity for reason and to understand the effects of their actions on others. Some choose to utilize this capacity and some don’t.
Power corrupts.
Those without power are communists. Those with power are commissars.
If you think that women have that capacity, you’re part of the problem.
And when the felt effects, to themselves, of what women and amoral alphas do, is that someone else picks up the pieces and pay for them; and those who do so are the 85+% of males who are “betas”?
If you want women and alphas top behave differently, stop making excuses for supporting the results of their lifestyles. Or more specifically, get the hell out of the way of the kind of mate and property guarding that once enabled the West to become civilized.
A society where the expected outcome of a cuckolding is a shot cad, a stoned whore and a bludgeoned to death bastard, is a good, just, righteous and civilized one. Ours is not. Work to rectify that, instead of making mealy mouthed excuses about “that’s going too far, blah, blah.” If we don’t, those societies that do will inherit the earth. And justly so.
GBFM,
Would you please provide us some of your thoughts on marijuana?
Love,
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true FACT:
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Remove women from the workplace?? What a ridiculous waste of economic resources!
[Heartiste: Funny. Men’s wages were high and the country was doing fine when women were largely absent from the workforce.]
If men want to retain their leadership and economic status, they need to step it up and out compete women in the office. Or better yet, start your own business.
[So men should refuse to cooperate with female coworkers?]
“[So men should refuse to cooperate with female coworkers?]”
No, they should just do a better job (and if they don’t, not bitch about those who get promoted over them). We don’t live in a “may the best *man* win” world anymore.
In my experience, women (especially the middle-aged ones) are the most incompetent co-workers. Complainers, schemers backstabbers. They flourish under current workplace harassment environments where false accusation is their modus operandi.
Oh the day when men would be truly valued based on actual work performance. They would leave the wimminz in the dust.
not sure if serious, but if:
http://whatmenthinkofwomen.blogspot.com/2011/09/womens-issuespriority-mens-issues-erm.html
http://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=1319665&postcount=39
and the boardroom quotas in norway
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/18/diversity-boardroom-corporate-decisions.
the shit flies everywhere.
http://www.vdare.com/articles/criminalizing-masculinity
why women didn’t start their own army? What! That’s misogynistic, the right question is why men were so sexist and didn’t allow women in the armies and garnered all the glory of dying in the battle exclusively for only themselves.
iow, why are you hitting that poor woman’s fist with your face you misogynist!
http://www.avoiceformen.com/men/mens-issues/bias-against-men-expands-education-gap/
and a woman who made history!
http://pjmedia.com/blog/gray-lady-up-jill-abramsons-reign-begins-at-the-times/?singlepage=true
yikes!
“Outcompete women,”
Hey man I totally hear what you’re saying, but have you heard about affirmative action?
Do women “outcompete” men in physical labor jobs? Or the deadliest jobs? Or in the military? The police? Firefighting? Logging? Oil industries?
Wait I forgot what we were talking about. Could you say your argument again?
Moreover, what’s always conveniently ignored by feminists about the bad old days, is that women really liked being home. For one, they spent their days as they do at work gossiping and doing minimal work, watching the kids play outside. They were happier. Women who stay at home have more energy for sex and usually fuck more and nag less because they aren’t stressed. Women fall into housewife mode rather easily, even today, I find. Kids played outside all day and thought being indoors was torture. Women in state and local government jobs supervising the famliy combined with Feminist jurisprudence changed all that.
Heartiste for President, GBFM for Vice President
This is an idea whose time has come!
The first VP press conference alone would be worth the effort and expense.
I’ve been lurking here for a couple of weeks. Where the fuck was this site when I was a kid?
Anyway, I could give a fuck about what this fat fuck has a to say about anything. He is one of those conservatives who would take men back 50 years as well as women. And he is just your typical main stream media hypocrite. He writes books about virtues, but goes to Vegas and gambles thousands of dollars in a night. And he is a fat fucking pig. Apparently this fat religious fuck hasn’t thought of the cardinal sin, gluttony.
In another life, I practice as an attorney in family law. I can attest that men get fucked in divorces. Economically speaking, there is rarely a winner, male or female in a divorce. But courts are still biased. I’ve never seen a man awarded spousal maintenance. And when it comes to custody, there is still the default position that women should be given primary physical custody. There have been advances though, depending on your jurisdiction. It is not always automatic that a woman will get sole custody. Having said that, in reference to custody, women have the advantage.
I definitely agree with the conclusion of this entry. Women not have gotten the men they deserve, they got the men they want. So they need to just shut the fuck up and take a valium to slow the hamster down.
I stole this off Reason’s Hit N Run blog:
Society has changed. Women have more power over their own life, and there is less pressure to conform to expectations from family, religion, society at large, etc. So now with more choice on how to life their lives, many women are deciding to do something with their lives other than be the traditional housewife of 50 years ago. It sucks to be a guy today who wants the housewife of 50 years ago, since there are less of them, but people have more choice on how to live their lives now, and that’s a good thing.Many women fought hard for this. Some would even call it “feminism”.
But guess what? Men also have more power over their own life, and there is less pressure to conform to expectations from family, religion, society at large, etc. So now with more choice on how to life their lives, many men are deciding to do something with their lives other than be the traditional husband of 50 years ago. It sucks to be a women today who wants the husband of 50 years ago, since there are less of them, but people have more choice on how to live their lives now, and that’s a good thing……and women hate that!!!!
Amen brother
He he. That is fucking funny.
This solipsism in the female nature and the inability to associate cause with effect is why I believe Aristotle thought women to be creature equivalent to 3/4 man, somewhere between man and child in their development.
What female productivity? The wasted resources that women use and many times disregard when they want to be SAHM’s could go to somewhere more useful. Not saying all of them because there are some damn good women out there that are good at what they do. But by and far are outweighed by those that aren’t.
People like Bennett aren’t going to listen to your arguments Roisy. Then they’d have to eat the proverbial crow because they won’t admit they were wrong all along. Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative they are all one in the same.
“Now naturally, few conservatives will take up this call to arms.”
Some do. They are known as the alt-Right.
I wrote recently on other blogs that Alt-Right is best understood as the Old Right, resurrected for and in part by the GenY/Millennials generation.
By the way, when a long time ago you wrote of “chipmunk-cheeked conservatives, I always had Nil Bennett in mind.
Fun fact: I lived in DC in 1997 and attended the Promise Keepers’ rally, out of curiosity. Man, what a mega mangina-fest it was.
And still,the fem-cunts were wild with rage and anger at even THESE belly crawling pussies getting 2gether–for the express purpose of being sniveling pussies!!! And the media did their ussual bit too. “Oh gee what is this danger??” Just a bunch of fags,half or more of whom have been dumped by the pig wives they pledge to serve. Oh brother.
Heartiste, you are mostly right, in my opinion. No, no humble. I’m not humble.
You do have one major problem with your practical solution. It doesn’t change anything. Men rolling from bed to bed, as fun as it is, don’t change anything. Men abdicated responsibility in the first place (passing idiot laws like affirmative action and no fault divorce), and it is up to us to take it back. Yes, actually, guys, we do need to man up. We need to man up and be the men they want us to be, and then refuse to act the way they want us to act. Be successful, fulfill your dreams, be a high status man. Sure, game helps (a lot; you don’t actually need status to be successful with women, but I’m preaching to the choir there), but what bigger slap in the face to women than a (genuinely) high status man who refuses to commit? We need to make the hard choices, if we genuinely want society to move forward. Men need to choose to be better for their own sakes, not to be better for the sake of a woman, or to seem better for the sake of sex. That is the ONLY way we are going to make progress.
“but what bigger slap in the face to women than a (genuinely) high status man who refuses to commit?”
Shit, that’s the most motivating thing i ever read on this blog.
GG.
Keep in mind that to most who practice it, game is more than just “men rolling from bed to bed.” It indeed encompasses all of the high-status pursuits that you mentioned. Through insightful blogs like this one (which covers much more than just pick-up tactics), men learn to “be better for their own sakes,” as you said. Sure, the learning of alpha characteristics by these men is mimicry at first, once it is ingested and consistently displayed it becomes part of the man’s being– and as more men succeed, society will ultimately benefit. How could it not?
REALLY?
“Men” did not pass those laws. Nor did they pass any laws that changed them further. Nor did “men” argue for them in the first place.
You misplace political power and funding for “men.”
Thank you come again.
Who else passed them? Men once were the only ones with the franchise. The votes that enabled women to vote initially, abdicating political power (probably permanently) were cast by men. It doesn’t matter what pressures were being applied, or where the money was coming from, the voice that said “aye” was a male’s voice in every case. Responsibility lies firmly on men.
And you mistake ‘misplace’ for ‘mistake’.
Fuck reacting, just do what produces the greatest result with the least amount of effort with no corners cut and wait for everyone to bow to you. Parsimony is the path of the modern man.
It’s not rocket science — yeah shit looks bad for everyone, and this old guy literally has no connection with the meta or the real world for that matter. He is lost in a fantasy. He’s 80. Why is he even allowed to talk about pussy? He bought his supply with cash and status for the last 20 years and that’s if his dick still works science willing.
The good readers know that women are horrid creatures right now. Horrid, beautiful shells of what they once were. We all are in different ways. The increasing demands on our EVERYTHING has created agitated time starved specialists with little to no souls. They can’t dance, but shamble to the unconscious music of the brand; the tramp stamp and the gamertag.
For these people it’s avoiding the demons of introspection at all costs. These are the people suffering and these people are at one time or another WERE US. It’s a response to lack of an unsafe lack of reward and meaning.
When you keep promising an ENTIRE GENERATION something, and they never get it…they break.
The forgotten, the first group of people to suffer silently as completely brainwashed denizens of the corporate architecture. Millions caught the matrix. If only they knew they were better then their idols, their kill streaks, and the cumshots they just drained in the last “configured to spec” girls throat. Noone can risk anything because they don’t have anything to risk.
This, and the generations after are broke gamblers sitting outside of the casino of fate. No dice to cast, desperately grasping to play the only game left they think they can win at and what history forgets to remind you of, is that game is the easiest to play.
Were literally all designed to win. Maybe that’s the joke.
The elephant in the room is that women’s productivity is best put to marrying young and having children.
Another great post for the archives.
Bennett has been old and out of touch for decades, if not longer. His “merits” are laughable. The fact that so many people out there actually listen to this fool is further proof of the sad state of our country.
I’m not sure the book is a huge seller. I also think it will be mostly parents with adult men living in the basement who would be inclined to read the book.
Heartiste wrote: “Bennett … reverts to blind, deaf and dumb traditionalist form by laying the blame for men’s ailments at the feet of… men.”
What Bennett is peddling might be “blind, deaf and dumb,” but it isn’t “traditionalist” except by assertion (or by conservative reputation).
Most of this Male-Rights Activist bitchery is female at its core. When women see difficulties, they whine and complain to power. When men see difficulties, they seek power and act directly. Bennett and everyone else might be forgiven for going along with this feminine M.O. since boys have been raised for a century to seek girly compromise/collusion/cooperation solutions to problems, rather than the manly killing of (or credibly threatening to kill) people. In other words, “men” are chicks today.
A man doesn’t seek committees and bake sales and petitions and complaints. He organizes fellow fighters below him (or acknowledges the leaders above him) to directly effect change. The only compromise or cooperation is internal to his fighting society. In other words, he makes war on that which opposes him until the enemy or he yields.
There’s a reason “manliness” manifestos and even game blogs to a certain degree carry a whiff of fruitiness about them. These are kaffeeklatches where we let out frustrations in speech rather than silently acting and bending the opposition to our will. Women (and former education “czars”) talk. Men act.
The traditionalist seeks to rediscover and resurrect the male prerogative that was abandoned since we so stupidly, unconditionally surrendered to the Chicks With Dicks suffragette brigade. Bennett’s solution (Man up, bratboys!) presumes the permanence of feminist hegemony and how we might rearrange deck chairs.
Yes, there is some manning up to be done. The overgrown manchildren who waste away their maturity in escapist fantasy are pathetic creatures indeed, and that fact shouldn’t be ignored. But the first “man-up” is to squarely address the absurd feminist presumptions that a “conservative” like Bennett hasn’t courage to do.
It’s been a long century. The aged ideologues are slowly dropping off the scene and leaving the field to us, the clear-eyed generation entering its political and cultural prime.
“It’s been a long century. The aged ideologues are slowly dropping off the scene and leaving the field to us, the clear-eyed generation entering its political and cultural prime.”
Who is us?
Yeah, it’s very pathetic for young men to pursue activities like videogaming, model building or whatever. They ought to be no more than worker bees who must find themselves a mate to provide for. What a great life indeed.
“leaving the field to us, the clear-eyed generation entering its political and cultural prime.”
Wow, is this a clue about your age? I always thought you were 80 years old or something?
Might King A be a young stud?
“Most of this Male-Rights Activist bitchery is female at its core. When women see difficulties, they whine and complain to power. When men see difficulties, they seek power and act directly.”
exactly. and you can either grapple (fruitlessly) w the emerging power of women or use it to your advantage.
You ignore the fact that mens’ scope of action has been severely limited and they are in fact doing what is allowed with the least risk in the current environment. It is actually bringing results too.You want violent revolution? You go first, ok?
I rolled my eyes when I read the review of this book and what it was about, but then this is typical Bennett. He has figured out the problem, but has no clue as to its real cause or solution. I think he needs to talk to some young men rather than women. I’m sure he was trying to score some pussy at least vacariously with this book.
2/3rds of divorces are initiated by women. However that’s the national average, taking all possible demographics into account. For educated couples (ie higher than high school) divorce is initiated by the woman 90% of the time.
Why would any man in his right mind get married?
Because these divorced men are most likely pussywhipped betas who fell in love with a reformed cock carousel rider.
First, love is not enough to get married, you need to have the visceral need to have babies.
Marriage can still be an option if you have game, if you understand women (not difficult if you’re a regular reader of this blog), if you have experience with them, and if you screen out the cunts, the slutty tarts, the fembots and the drama queens (non-exhaustive list).
There is a (very) small pool of marriage material girls, but they’re still out there.
I’m all for the player lifestyle, but there are family men who cannot pull it off without feeling unfulfilled. Given the legal climate etc… their only shot at marital bliss is through swallowing a red pill (or two).
And the prenup. Don’t forget the fucking prenup.
And paternity tests…
You know what, forget about it. Marriage sucks walrus dick.
I’m white, and male. I have a steady job, pay my taxes, don’t steal, and spend less than I earn.
In other words, I’m a n—-r in modern-day Amerika.
So forgive me, Mr. Bennett, and my kind, if we don’t seem to be investing too much into the system.
That gets my vote for the best post ever written. This is your “An American Crisis.” This was beautiful, worthy of Thomas Paine’s best. Hats off! Bravo! I hope Bill sees it.
Good post. Don’t know how can we remove women from the workplace though. Any practical ideas? You CAN’T convince girls that they shouldn’t study law, medicine, go to grad school etc.
“When she gets aroused by a backhanded compliment but remains unmoved by a sincere compliment, man up.”
We can’t help!
“When she “forgets” to take the Pill and puts you on the hook for the 18 year enslavement, man up.”
Stupid. Don’t have sex if you hate babies, loser.
Fuck off bitch, you don’t get a free pass to deceive men into having a child. You whores have “reproductive rights” and are allowed to spread your legs open with impunity, whereas a man’s only recourse is “keep it in your pants”?. Get bent!
Having sex=making babies, it ALWAYS was like that. Also, keep in mind that no contraceptive method is 100,00% reliable and sometimes it’s possible that it fails without forgetting anything. If you want to have sex, accept the risks that come with this.
“Stupid. Don’t have sex if you hate babies, loser.”
are you insane?
don’t answer that.
“Convince” has nothing to do with it.
Then, King A, explain, what other options do we have?
We can’t remove women from the workplace? REALLY? Sure we can; start having actual standards. Don’t let people into engineering and computer science programs just because of their plumbing. Do it because of their math and science scores. Don’t promote people based on affirmative action, do it based on their work records. These two policies (actually, just one; repeal affirmative action) will cull an easy two thirds of women from the workforce overnight.
“Men will man up when women man down. The one must follow the other. The polarity cannot be reversed.”
The assumption that women are capable of acting responsibly or with self-awareness is what got us into this mess in the first place. Women can’t fix anything on their own. Bennett is right about one thing; detoxing American culture is men’s work.
Heartiste wrote: “traditionalists and their offspring — Promise Keepers, Iron Johns, (some) MRAs, evangelists, etc. — have an allergic reaction to plumbing the depths of the human sexual soul, a revulsion likely concocted in a cauldron of sheltered life experiences and morbid fear of their own temptations.”
Your understanding of conservatives is cartoonish. You sound like women who consider all men rapists, or Hollywood leftists who portray every southerner as a Klan member. Caricatures can apply to you too, as you must have been made aware by those who oppose you. Straw men are the easiest people to discredit.
Not that many here have the most rudimentary catechesis to understand, but I’ll offer it anyway: religion, and specifically Christianity, is all about “plumbing the depths of the human … soul”, and the “sexual soul,” whatever that is, must necessarily be a part of the general psyche logos. Absent this literal psychology, our other, more familiar manifestations such as theology, worship, and dogma will remain unintelligible to the uninitiated. Familiarize yourself with the doctrine of original sin — and not a crayon drawing of it — or other notions like total depravity. We faithful are sin scientists. We are intimate with that which we seek to vanquish: evil. It requires a “depth” of which your readers-digest “biomechanics is god” ontology cannot conceive.
When it comes down to it, you’re going to have to make a choice, unpalatable either way: ally yourself with the regnant progressive feminism or with the revolutionary traditionalists. Your middle-way opportunism is the false pragmatism of moderation.
Another word for it is mediocrity. If the feminist progressives say 2+2=10, and the traditionalists say 2+2=4, the mediocre problem-solver splits the difference and insists everyone’s wrong! a pox on both houses! Truth will be found by declaring 2+2 to be 7. Such quisling behavior is not only intellectually risible and cowardly, but also practically unsustainable in that it makes more enemies than you can handle from all sides. (The substantial reason you maintain anonymity.)
My hunch is that the libertinism so inextricable from your working-philosophy will ultimately dictate the choice for you. The femmcunts are bossy and fat and wrong in every way, but at least they’re too stupid to see the connection between sexual anomie and general cultural collapse, and so they will defend your “liberties” to the end. But you must know that The End is Nigh. Isn’t that obvious from the sounds of war on the far side of the pool?
No matter: you and your philosophaster digressions are destined to be engulfed by the aftershocks of a war waged well above your pay grade. Until then, have a good guerrilla sniping campaign against feminist targets of opportunity. I won’t complain. But don’t mistake us conservatives for the deluded blowhard leftist fools whose pretensions are so easily punctured by an honest observer such as yourself with a minimal connection to reality.
No, in fact, quite the opposite. In your occasional excursions beyond the shores of game, you have wandered well out of your “depth.”
When I use big words instead of little words it makes me smart. Smart!
with respect, KA, i disagree very strongly with your conclusions and the premises behind them.
“When it comes down to it, you’re going to have to make a choice, unpalatable either way: ally yourself with the regnant progressive feminism or with the revolutionary traditionalists. Your middle-way opportunism is the false pragmatism of moderation.”
No. The middle ground-smart and strategic compromise- is a win-win. Its a win for girls because it placates them in their currently ascendant will to power and it benefits males because our masculine polarity can and will regulate if the such women respect us enough to submit.
“Another word for it is mediocrity. If the feminist progressives say 2+2=10, and the traditionalists say 2+2=4, the mediocre problem-solver splits the difference and insists everyone’s wrong! a pox on both houses! Truth will be found by declaring 2+2 to be 7.”
Wrong again. You fail by assuming your belief to be simple, unassailable truth distillable to mathematical perfection. The traditionalists being good at math does not mean that their theory is a perfect mathematical equation. remember what i posted earlier about men’s fatal flaw being hubris?
this is a complex and highly dynamic area of human endeavour. one thing that *is* for certain is that we must adapt and change. roll with the punches and turbulence that we currently face. a return to old business models will cause those who do to be overtaken by those who innovate.
I find your teachings intriguing and I wish to learn more.
Can you cite to any more detailed prescription for reform from the perspective of a revolutionary traditionalist, a paleconservative, or an orthodox reformed theological tradition?
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The boys playing video games all day and night in their rooms? Are they avoiding women because they are afraid of them?
Nope. Make no mistake – they are hunting, just like they were born to do. Women have quickly moved into traditional male areas because these fields are now routinized, pacified and made safe by incredible experience and technology. When the women move in, it is because the danger and adventure has long since moved out.
As far as the brains watching the engrossing video games, it is like being there. It’s called “savannah brain” where the mind treats compelling audio/visual stimuli like reality. That’s also why modern porn is so addicting.
In the first world, technology has overtaken the need for hunting and danger. And hunting is really the search for solutions to new problems.
Women are fine administrators of the tried and true.
When I see a large company like IBM or HP being run by women, I know to get out of the stock. Women CEO’s are caretakers, managing the long slow windup of an enterprise that has lost its fire.
We are (maybe) temporarily in a situation of lost horizons for young men. They really, really don’t want to be doing the same job that a girl can do.
Good post. Ultimately, this is what advances the species: men innovating and women following close behind. Whenever men innovate, women instinctively fall in line and cooperate with them. When there is no innovation taking place at all, women fall to pieces (and ‘excel’ at learning the same tried and true routines in the meantime).
The sad thing is, there is actually plenty of room for innovation, but in many ways our society is set up to discourage it from young men. What happens if a man tries to innovate? Typically he’s viewed with suspicion, hostility, etc.
Our society is devolving into a firmly stratified oligarchy in which the only meaningful characteristic is title at birth rather than performance afterwards. Interestingly, sex is playing a part in this, because non-elite males have less and less incentive to innovate even if they have the required mental and psychological abilities to do so.
Great post. Great observations.
Hamsta wrote:
Nope. Make no mistake – they are hunting, just like they were born to do. Women have quickly moved into traditional male areas because these fields are now routinized, pacified and made safe by incredible experience and technology. When the women move in, it is because the danger and adventure has long since moved out.
Brilliant observation.
More on the stock returns correlating to female CEO performance: http://archive.nyu.edu/bitstream/2451/25949/2/Srelcova_2005.pdf
Of note: ”
Studying a sample of 58 companies run by female CEOs over the 20-year period between January, 1985 and December 2004, I find that the stock price returns of the companies run by newly appointed female CEOs, are significantly lower then the stock price returns of comparable companies run by male CEOs during the year following the female CEO appointment. Moreover, this paper doesn’t find evidence of leverage differences between the female CEO and male CEO run companies”
The day when i receive a full report made by the fbi, certified by the cia, and rechecked by fucking nasa indicating that female infidelity has stopped, I might start to consider marriage and manning up like that gambling fatass suggests.
Until then, fuck y’all bitches.
Not this topic again. Let’s get back to bangin them broads, hey?
Stick to your own blog then.
“most conservatives are pussies”
They are hopeless betas and white knights — to which you’ll probably say, “same thing.”
In unrelated lawyercunt news, I thought the Chateu would find amusement in this story:
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/not_one_legal_secretary_surveyed_preferred_working_with_women_lawyers_prof_/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_email
Men will man up when women will need them. It has been said here before, but i’ll happily overstate it: women in a prosperous society don’t need beta providers.
The 2008 financial crisis provoked a slight shift in women’s mating preferences. Betas had a glimpse on what’s awaiting them if society goes through an area of turbulence: the (mercenary) loving attention of women who were previously out of their league.
So as long as we are living in abundance, men have little choice but to thug it up/learn game if they want to have a shot with (the attractive) females.
I hear a lot of world-enders these days, who see in OWS, the debt crisis… signs of an imminent collapse. I’m a little bit more optimist, but only for a few more decades, when more serious issues begin to emerge (demographic pressure, peak oil, water wars…).
As the eternal optimist that i am, and apart from cataclysmic events, I don’t see these challenges as fundamental threats to civilization, but they will force harsh adjustments, which may induce enough pressure on hamsters to direct their (mercenary) loving attention on betas.
Men will man up and will assume their responsibilities, if they sense that their average status is enough to attract women. It won’t be a comeback to the old days, but nothing is anymore as efficient as harsh times to tame hypergamy.
Until then, PUAs will have a blast and those in the dark will keep jerking off between two episodes of Stargate.
women in a prosperous society don’t need beta providers.
This follows closely to my recomendation for men wanting a live in or a wife to do 2 things first as architecture to support your lifestyle.
1) Earn enough to support the both of you in a portable job where she has no access to your funds and can’t threaten your income or steal it.
2) Get her to quit her job and spend time attending to your needs.
You must get her to rely on you, but at the same time must be able to cut out and leave her with nothing at any moment. You must financially have all the hand.
I’d hate to be burdened with the musical score to go with such an anthem without the requisite talent keep up with the lyricist.
My dad has made a life of manning up as Bill Bennett wishes, and where has it gotten him? My parents have been married for 38 years and together for 45. They are lifelong Catholics. Through it all my mother has absolutely owned my father. It started with her issuing an ultimatum about marriage. When she realized that he did not care about acquiring wealth or status (content to be a cable guy despite his country club upbringing), she “found” religion and precipitated a desperate move to a Rust Belt shithole to join a cult.
11 years later, when it was clear he was being passed over for advancement in the cult, she forced a confrontational exit. Because of his union job, he didn’t want to move back to the New England town where they grew up, but she worked on him and he acquiesced. But then she realized that her best friend back home was married to a banker and she would look bad in comparison, so she agreed to remain, but not without exacting a further concession to go back to school to get her degree (she dropped out of college after 1 semester) because the family needed a “second income”– including $10,000+ in student loans — so she could teach at a Catholic school for $11,000 a year. Of course their plan to save enough to retire comfortably failed when my father got shunted off to a desk job that contributed to 2 strokes and an early retirement (thankfully, he’s okay for now).
Because my father lacked a vision and a plan, my mother filled the leadership void (with a big assist from her closeted gay brother) and the results aren’t pretty. She got everything she asked for, but nothing she wanted. And the next generation, and the next, suffers.
interesting story. my take away is to always be hustling. you dont need to be king-of-the-castle, but you should never give up or settle in the pursuit. women can be quite flexible in this regard.
more importantly, never submit to ultimatums, especially when they come from a woman.
don’t let this sad experience be a tunnel-vision lesson for your future endeavors. take the hints but do so humbly and supplementing it with the wisdom (ill leave it to you to decide who to learn from) found within this venerable chateau.
I thought women want to be led by men. Why is the solution for men to wait for women to man down? Leaders act first, or get others to act. They don’t wait for their subjects to do anything.
In case you havent noticed, the few of us who want to force women to man down dont have the manpower to overpower the beta white knights in the military who will gladly defend women’s “right” to act like men. Leaders strike when they want and when the time is right. They don’t commit suicide following some bullshit absolute like “leaders act first.”
http://hawaiianlibertarian.blogspot.com/2011/10/those-who-are-responsible.html
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1. deconstruct the great books on university campuses
2. tell men they need to man up
3. dumb down the entire schools system
4. tell men they need to man up
5. ass-rape men in divorce court
6. tell men they need to man up
7. send men to die on foreign shores in foreign neo-con wars
8. tell men they need to man up
9. drug boys with ritalin/adderoll for being boys
10. tell men they need to man up
11. encourage women to give their a-holes and ‘gina-holes early and often to douchebags
12. tell men they need to man up
13. destroy the classical, heroic character in their neo-con movies, replacing them with ass-cocking gay cowboys
14. tell men they need to man up
15. print money from thin air and inflate and deflate bubbles to seize a man’s home and property
16. tell men they need to man up
17. encourage women to become fat, whiny bitches
18. tell men they need to man up
19. publish, promote, fund, and finance ass-cockers like tucker max who film secretive taping of ass-cocking sessions without the girl’s consent (tucker max rhymes with goldman sachs), repeating tucker’s lies that he is six feet tall in the neo-con mag, the weekly standard.
20. tell men they need to man up
21. transform the church from an institution where a man could once go to meet a virginal, exalted wife, into a front for the divorce industry, where single mothers with three children from three ass-cockers go to rope in a beta male to pay for the ass-cocker’s spawn
22. tell men they need to man up
23. castigate, attack, and impugn men for acting like men
24. tell men they need to man up
25. transform the noble, exalted university into a nursery, ruled by neo-con women exalting ass-cockers, asscocking, and good grammar, exiling and deconstructing the great books and men, and rewarding the servile future nannies of the nanny state with fiat dollars delivered fresh from ben beranke’s helicopter
26. tell men they need to man up
27. remove all men from the publishing industry, so that priscialla painton of simon and schuster sodom and scheister can publish tucker max rhymes iwth godlman sax’s stories on how he asscoked a girl (somone’s future wife who will asscock her future huspband in divorce coutrt as revenge for having been assocked by a neocon) and taped it secretly without her consent. Remove all men from the publishing industry and replace deep, profound, real great books for men, with twilight vampire asscocking female rape fanasty “romance” novels.
28. tell men they need to man up
29. conceive of a hundred government programs to criminalize men and force them to hand over their assets to women
30. tell men they need to man up
31. financially incentivize womem to file for divorce, promising them that their former husdband will have to pay for all their future assocking sessions, and that they get the kids/house/car/assets
32. tell men they need to ma up
33. fill the law schools with fat, embittered, burned-out, nasty (in looks and spirit) post-asscoked lawyeresses, and replace Moses’ and Zeus’s law with Bernake’s Banker laws which exlats theft via the inflation tax
34. tell men they need to man up.
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tucker max rhyme sitwh goldman sax secretive tapers of butthex (with your future wife who they need to desoul to make her loyal to the fita doallr and not god man family) to get the world used to being butthexed as once you are butthexed by the neoocn cockas you are more servile obedienet will die in tehir wars
who fund
the phahameecuatical companies who drug up all our boys
who funed fund the fmeinsit movement
to deconstruct the great books and classics on all our campuses
hollow them out and get rid of homer and dante and shakespeare an dthe bible
leave them with noting but femlit classes on entitlement and welath transfer lzozlzl
the federal resvere private banksters
implementing the ten planks of ths e communist manifesto
who created
the welath transferirng dot com bubble
the welath transferirng dot com bubble real estate bubble marriage bubble college studnet loan bubble funding professors who agree with the fiat dolalrz and degreess until the fiat degreees only funcion is to put the studnet in debt while dumbing them down teahcing them to obery horrid ugly evil dsoulles harpy womenz zlzozl
the welath transferirng dot com bubble
detsorying the family
butteheinxnxin
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how the fatassed in the beltway neocon jonah goldber william benenetes operate lzozllzlzlzlzlzozo:
1. deconstruct the great books on univeristy campuses
2. tell men they need to man up
3. dumb down the entire schools system
4. tell men they need to man up
5. assrape men in divorce court
6. tell men they need to man up
7. send men to die on foreign shores in foreign neoocn wars
8. tell men they need to man up
9. drug boys with ritalin/adderoll for being boys
10. tell men they need to man up
11. encourage woem to giver thie aholes and ginaholes early and often to douchebags
12. tell men they need to man up
13. destroy the classical, heroic character in their neocon movies, replacing them with asscocking gay cowboys
14. tell men they need to man up
15. print money from thin air and inflate and dlate bubbes to seize a man’s home and property
16. tell men they need to man up
17. enocurage women to become fat, whiney bitches
18. tell men they need to man up
19. publish, promote, fund, and finance asscokers licke tucker max who film secrtive tap9ng of assockinhg session without the girl’s consent, tucker ma rhymes with goldam sax, repeating tucker’s lies that he is six fet tall inthe neocon weekly standadth .
20. tell men they need to man up
21. transofrm the church from an instititution where a man coul once go to meet a virginal, exalted wife, into a front for the divorce industry, where single mothers with three children from three asscockers go to rope in a betabmale to pay for the assocker’s spawn
22. tell men they need to man up
23. castigate, attack, and impugn men for acting like men
24. tell men they need to man up
25. transform the noble, exalted university into a nursery, ruled by neocon women exalting asscockers, asscokcing, and good grammar, exiling and deconstructing the great book and men, and rewading the servile future nannies of teh nanny state with fiat dollars delivered fresh from ben beranke’s helicopter
26. tell men they need to man up
27. remove all men from the publishing industry, so that priscialla painton of simon and schuster sodom and scheister can publish tucker max rhymes iwth godlman sax’s stories on how he asscoked a girl (somone’s future wife who will asscock her future huspband in divorce coutrt as revenge for having been assocked by a neocns) and taped it secrtly without her conthent lzozozlzoo. remove all men form the publishing industry and repalce deep, prodoufn real great books for men with twilight vampire asscocking female rape fanasty rape fanatsatsy “roamance” novels
28. tell men they need to man up
29. conceive of a hundred government programs to criminalzize men and force them o hand over their assetts to women
30. tell men they need to man up
31. financially incentivizee womem to file for divorce, promising them that their former husdband will have to pay for all their futrue assocking sessions, and that they get the kids/house/car/assetts
32. tell men they need to ma up
33. fill the law schools with fatm, embittered, burned-out, nasty (in looks an spirit) post-asscoked lawyeresses, an replace Moses’ and Zeus’s law with bernake’s banker laws whichexlats theft via the inflation tax
34. tell men they need to man up.
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what aalalz am i mizssing here:???
feel free to addodoon ti oit! lzozlzl
here’ss bernanke neoenconss fiat funded debt funded police state forces shooting canstsiers of tear gas and throwiwnwg flash grenades into our ev very own marines peacefully protetststing no lzozzozozozing
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlla/marines-storm-reddit-after-occupy-oakland-shooting-of-scott-olson_b43369
semper fi 2 the usmc
soooo sad that so many young men are made to go die on foreign shores in the fiat master’s awars and then are shot at by the fiat state police in their very own home 🙁
no lzozozozoing here
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlla/marines-storm-reddit-after-occupy-oakland-shooting-of-scott-olson_b43369
reddit user:
“Marines have been flocking to the social networking/aggregator site Reddit to voice their anger at the life-threatening injury inflicted on 24-year-old Iraqi war veteran Scott Olsen by Oakland police during the recent Occupy protests. Video showed Olsen go down after taking a tear gas canister to the head. As fellow protesters tried to assist him, police lobbed a flash grenade into their midst–right next to Olsen’s already fractured skull.
The picture above, submitted by Reddit user aburger, has generated well over 1,000 comments on the site–many from fellow Marines who are absolutely livid at the injury to one of their own by police.
Here’s one from Reddit user 0311kilo33:
As God is my witness. I will fight tooth and nail to restore the decency this country was founded upon. The politicians, banks and large corporations have ruined this country. I find it difficult to notice any sense of politeness on the streets anymore. But it goes farther. As a Marine and a citizen I am outraged. I am sick to death of the world my children are being raised in.
So I ask all of you, can you too sense the tipping point? When will enough be enough? If not now, when? I feel the problem is that the average Joe citizen is ignorant and comfortable. These, in addition to selfishness have become the standard for the majority of the population. As long as people are comfortable they remain silent. Well, I’m really fucking uncomfortable and I’m sick of seeing this sort of shit happening. The Occupy protests that are going on are our first glimmer of hope. If we can take this and move it further, get every lazy ass off their rocker and open their eyes; then maybe, just maybe we have a chance.
Semper Fi brothers, and remember who you are. Protectors of a great nation, not politicians or wealthy money grubbing bankers and the like. When it comes time, I know we’ll stand strong.
If online reaction is any indication, it’s not a stretch to think Olsen’s injury could be the start of something very big. We have a lot of military combat veterans in this country who haven’t been treated very well since they left the service. No job prospects. Inadequate medical coverage. If they take their anger offline and into the streets, the OWS movement will become an extremely potent, and WELL TRAINED force.”
Cut and pasted from another venue. I read the same post five hours ago. Mediat Matters or MoveOn trying to gin up support for the anarcho-socialist revolution. . . .
Uh huh. GBFM hasn’t figured out that I can scroll down to skip a drooler’s comments faster than even GBFM can type.
“the corporate office — has, via managerial despotism strengthening PC and diversity to a state religion, lopped their balls clean off.”
Precisely what I have described in my Employment Game essays, and dovetails nicely with Elmer’s Law :
Women are competing for jobs but are not creating them. Other than providing a mass market for their vanity products, they are not forging new industries or technologies. They are marginalizing that small percentage of men who passionately innovate, destroy, and create ideas and take the risks to drive them to actualization
Though men shank me and insult me, only men provide me with opportunity. Women can only insult me and deprive me of opportunity. Only men, and only a small fraction of them, take the risks that create industry and opportunity.
Women can only serve as mere functionaries in man-created structures. When an organization becomes feminized, priority shifts from efficient and profitable production of goods and services to development of labyrinthine rules for the comfort and security of women. Ossification and organizational death are inevitable.
I don’t have the corporate experience to weigh in on this assessment, but I do have experience with females, and I agree because I know from experience – women are rarely creative in any way. And even more rarely technically creative.
Hey, case in point…
“CDC Exec and Night Watchman Boyfriend Arrested on Bestiality, Child Molestation Charges,” 10 Oct 2011
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/228464/20111010/cdc-executive-dr-kimberly-quinlan-lindsey-thomas-westerman-official-bestiality-child-molestation-abu.htm
Highly accomplished PhD executive female… male security guard with multiple firings for insubordination and sexual harrassment (badly-behaving authority figure) before they hooked-up. You do the math.
Maybe the whole problem is way simpler than this Roisy.
Maybe the problem isn’t Men Or Women.
Maybe….the reason why finding people is hard is because….
Our society is too big and too diverse (and I’m not just saying non-whites..even different white ethnics)
Think about it, whites are highly individualistic…So now that the majority of us are cosmopolitans living the ‘cosmopolitan’ life…instead of being in small communities attending Sunday church with people who are probably our 6th cousin to begin with who we have known since the 1st grade….
Maybe because we have lost the bonds of tight-knit community it’s just Really Really Hard and no one, not even men or women….Know what to do??
@ Heartiste
I think this was an excellent article, but I do have one point of contention. Few in the forseeable future want to get rid of No Fault Divorce. Too many people think marriage should be free. A real sollution might be found if we say if you are the first to file for divorce, you will lose the house and children and be paying child support to the remaining spouse/parent be you man or woman in a No Fault Divorce. If you want to prove fault in order to get the house and children, real fault must be found such as physical abuse, adultry,Drug addiction, alcoholism, abandonment, and you must produce solid evidence. See how many women will file for divorce when they realize they can’t get the house and children with child support just because they filed for divorce. The number who do so will drop.
American women file 70% of the Divorces and the American divorce rate is 50%,, man up. South Korea had a 1% divorce rate up until 1990. Until that time Korean men would get the house and children if he wanted them, and women would rarely if ever pay child support, but she would be forced to leave the marriage house unless she proved that there was something seriously wrong with the man. Until 1990, men usually filed for divorce and had to to prove fault with the wife. Since 1990, South Korean divorce laws became more similar to the USA. Since 2000, the South Korean divorce rate has been 45%, and Korean women file 65% of the divorces, man up.
“South Korea had a 1% divorce rate up until 1990. Until that time Korean men would get the house and children if he wanted them, and women would rarely if ever pay child support, but she would be forced to leave the marriage house unless she proved that there was something seriously wrong with the man. Until 1990, men usually filed for divorce and had to to prove fault with the wife. Since 1990, South Korean divorce laws became more similar to the USA. Since 2000, the South Korean divorce rate has been 45%, and Korean women file 65% of the divorces, man up.”
citation/source please…
I’m divorced. Not a day went by during that period that I wasn’t thankful that divorce had no legal requirement to initiate.
I wanted out. I needed out. What if the law said I had no choice but to remain married, as my spouse had no fault and didn’t want out?
Someone would have been shot.
I like how everyone cites the same broad statistics about undergraduate degrees and demographics of college students.
It has always been the case that some men went to college, others did not and pursued careers in areas like construction, manufacturing, or other vocational jobs. Now that women are as motivated to pursue higher education as men, what do you expect? An influx of female plumbers and construction workers? It should be completely expected that women begin to outnumber men at universities.
Regarding money … well, women spend most of it anyways. Men are the ones who derive hours of enjoyment from a soccer ball or video game. Through training men earn their way into being physically attractive; through cosmetics, women buy the same privilege.
Ask men if they really care that women are plowing headfirst into social, accounting, or managerial desk jobs. The only downside is that women become even more self-important because they think they’ve become more intelligent through higher education and their career as being a “professional” foot soldier, before coming home and watching reality TV while reading their horoscope.
This makes me feel violent.
Granted, Bill Bennett has been out of the loop for far too many years to know the facts on the ground. But he is pointing in the right direction and I think his heart is in the right direction.
Plus, give him credit forgetting SOMETHING out on the street for us to chew on.
Responding with bitterness and rebelliousness won’t advance our civilization.
Calm don a bit and write a clear, cogent, reasoned response and get it into circulation in the same outlets as Bennett and let’s see if we can advance the social debate.
and get it into circulation in the same outlets as Bennett
There’s your mistake right there.
That’s like entering the circle of a clutch of hens and trying to get them agree with a masculine point of view.
Fuck the hens point of view. Let em make their funny hen noises. Let em create all the social rules and regulations that they want. Let them shame and manipulate. What’s it to us?
We don’t care what they say.
They’re just hens.
You never cease to amaze me. You knocked this one out of the park.
Men will man up when women man down. The one must follow the other. The polarity cannot be reversed.
You really are a funny guy!!!!!!
You are a stone cold righteous fucker. You are jacked in veritate. You’re right about women and religion.
Bill Bennett – a fat, bloated old blowhard who became a gambling junkie and may have lost millions in Vegas. Another example of a clueless old political hack, ex dem now republican.
Thanks for the lecture, fatty.
PA
Fun fact: I lived in DC in 1997 and attended the Promise Keepers’ rally, out of curiosity. Man, what a mega mangina-fest it was.
What, you didn’t like the part where Whitey washed some black guy’s feet to atone for the sins of White racism and slavery?
By the way the football coach who started that thing, McCarthey???, has an interesting daughter. She took one of her father’s Samoan football players home, fucked him in her daddy’s bed and later gave birth to the child.
How’s that for baby daughter getting back at beta daddy!!!
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Does “The Gambler” really believe what he writes? Most of his article is garbage but the worst part is the feeling that clean, sober, moral and vital women are just waiting for these fine chaps to settle down and raise a family.
What would Bennett say if he went to some of the parties I have gone to where women are all making out with each other and having threesomes with everyone watching?
What about all the damsels and homemakers on Ashley Madison?
What about the dainty ladies who file false rape charges and bogus sex crime charges when a guy refuses their advances?
What about all the female substitute teachers who have ham hands for their 12 and 13 year old students?
Or the growing legion of female sex tourists? Or the married ones who go to Vegas with their girlfriends since what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas?
The list goes on but why does anybody view women as sexual innocents when they are undoubtedly worse than men when it comes to sex and basic human decency?
What men fail to notice is that even virgins are not innocents.
Women are born with innate talents of cunning and conniving manipulation, and their pussy is never innocent.
Bill, don’t ignore the feminist trash induced skank factor. We’ve marinated in that for decades. What man wants a well used woman for the long haul?
This is what I would argue. If something is rare, you tend to place a high level of value on it. When something becomes a commodity, you don’t value it as much. Simple supply and demand, which is why women have devalued themselves to the point that one hole is the same as any other.
Why did you take a few weeks to make this post?
Men will continue to get what they tolerate. That’s the bottom line. We all know that men built the modern world – we designed it, we invented it, we built it, we maintain it. We also know that men are the real protectors of society – a tiny fraction of a percent of women have died as soldiers, cops, firefighters, and in the like; the rest has been done by men. Now that America is a post-industrial society, and not so many things as before need to be built, the powers-that-be and their feminist pals feel free to cut us loose. That’s why it is called the “Mancession.”
The traditional world of our fathers and grandfathers worked, my friends. They were righteous, strong, free men. People mock the “Ozzie and Harriett: world they lived in, but ask yourself, given the choice between living now and in the 1930s or 40s, what would you choose? If I could go back to those times, which were before my birth, I’d do it in a heartbeat. A man could be a man in those times, and feminism hadn’t been invented yet. Women still aspired to be ladies.
The traditional roles still applied, and men and women seemed happier with one another. Good-paying jobs were plentiful, and men didn’t have to spent half their lives in school to get them. Our country was ledf by men who knew who America was, and what it stood for. When we went to war, we fought to win.
The courts actually dispensed justice, not politically-correct nonsense.
Maybe it’s time for a strike, for men to withdraw not only their approval from this brave new world feminism has created, but their particiaption. If all the men who keep this country running – building, repairing, fixing and otherwise maintaining things – quit all at once, the effect would be quite dramatic, trust me. Although we’ve been hurt, we still have some powerful cards yet to play. So let’s play ‘em. What you tolerate, you get more of. Let’s refuse to tolerate it anymore.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
What we’re seeing is a Masculine Atlas Shrugged.
We’re all just looking for, or creating, our version of Galt’s Gulch up in here. Some of us already live there.
I am a scientist, male, with over 40 publications, some in Science, JBC, PNAS, Cell, in other words excellent journals. I never got a job offer from a university. Any woman who had my resume would have been fallen over like the second coming of Madame Curie. But for a man, nada. Then, the women I knew who did get positions, most quit in a few years, to go be with a boyfriend, have a baby, etc. So the position goes to a woman over and over again because they don’t have enough women on the faculty to keep the regulators away. My old boss told me he went to a meeting between the university committee on compliance and the gov’t NIH/EEOC people. One of the gov’t people literally lost it and started screaming, ” If you don’t get more women I will cut off all NIH funding to the university!” I don’t know whether he had that ability but that is the environment that universities are operating in. I could go on but you get the picture. So yes, men have turned into beta males. I consider us a lost generation. I never did get married. I have been able to get by, moving from here to there, made some cool discoveries, made some good friends. Good luck to all you men out there, I know its a struggle.
When the system can’t be gamed, create a different system.
Get off the grid, step out, do something else.
Fuck university. Smart guys are able to be autodidacts and entrepreneurs anyway.
It’s pretty much the same in the corporate world. The company I work for (fortune 200, note I didn’t say “my company”) is big on diversity, of course, and an email went out the other day touting the diversity programs, I think I counted 7, gay, lesbian, black, pacific islander no less, and so on. The one group that stood out like a sore thumb because of it’s absence- white men.
No diversity for you schlubs now man the fuck up.
We don’t have clubs, or focus groups for Excellence though.
If you want to be successful in the corporate world, be a black woman, if not that, a black man or minority woman, can’t do that? go for white woman, no go? how about fag? stuck with being a straight white man? too fucking bad unless you somehow built up a strong enough resume elsewhere and know the right people, then you can jump the middle range easy enough into the upper.
We’re shipping jobs to India to save around 20 cents on the dollar, get rid of ten upper management minorities and you will have made the savings. When it was announced, (second round of layoffs) we were admonished not to lessen our world class customer service (and it actually is) in other words “Don’t slack off loser”.
Bennett, Limbaugh and all the rest of the Captain Americas can go fuck themselves for all I care. They’re the ones actively promoting the job loss, the misandry, etc all because they’ve figure out a way to profit off it, everybody else can go get fucked.
See, I’m what would be considered a “stalwart” employee, man, which is similar to being a beta I suppose but lacks the neediness I think. You alpha dogs may sneer at me but the fact is you need lots of stalwarts to get shit done. Unfortunately, we’re waking up. We’re not in the Tea Party (no use for those slavers), we’re not OWSer’s, we actually don’t give a fuck about the minorities and Love “Our Country”? “Our Country” sure as fuck don’t love us.
Guys like me, I don’t play video games cause they get boring, I like to do stuff. Eventually, when I’ve been unemployed three + years, when I see the dullard minorities get hired over me while I’m sleeping in my car, when I see the middle aged broads who rejected me when I was younger not even acknowledge that I’m a human, much less a man.
Well, there comes a point, you know?
The thing is, the blacks riot; give em a bucket of chicken and they settle down. The Tea Party white knights march, can’t get their dainty hands dirty you know; up their mortgage deduction, they’ll go home and spend more than the deduction in celebration, the kids; just threaten to cut off the student loans, they’ll shut up but the middle aged white man who realizes just how badly he’s been fucked over his whole life? How it’s not ending? When it get’s to the point that it doesn’t matter anyway? He’s the guy who’s gonna burn the motherfucker down.
It’s like a guy who catches his wife in bed with another man after coming home from work, happens enough times, eventually he starts to keep a gun on him when he comes home.
Holy shit, I’m a scientist in training and at this rate I might end up exactly like you.
thatstheway it is,
The employment prospects for a white male are even worse in the humanities, including the more difficult fields that require the mastery of multiple languages. Departments in the humanities have to make up for the relative lack of female applicants in the hard sciences.
This is great, great stuff, the article and the comments.
“I consider us a lost generation.”
It’s worse than that. I assume you’re Gen X or Gen Y. There’s no one left after you. There’s not even going to be an archaeologist to pick thru the ruins because only a certain kind of society ever even bothered to develop things like ‘archeology.’
And when it’s gone, it’s gone.
I’m a former engineer, male, who went into high school teaching nearly five-years ago. I jumped through the 467-bullet-point checklist the NEA has set up to become a highly qualified teacher, at great cost to myself, but am still stuck being a substitute. I’m scraping by enough to live but not even think about establishing a family on three jobs.
I’ve scored in the 99th percentile on every standardized test I ever took. I have strong recommendations from several outstanding teachers, and students frequently request that I be hired immediately, often directly to administrators. There were six new teachers hired in my area of certification last year in my metropolitan area – all females just out of ed school. I got one interview.
It is a slow motion Killing Fields for beta males.
Telling either men or women how to behave is a laughably impotent attempt at cultural manipulation.
People follow opportunity.
People follow opportunity.
People follow opportunity.
People don’t follow advice. People barely follow social pressure. They follow opportunity.
If you want to manipulate people, manipulate either their rewards, their ability to get rewards, or their perceptions of rewards.
Conservatives or liberals or anyone with a social agenda who comes up with a big shame stick to wave around is just waving around their own cock.
At the very best you’ll get people who already agree with you to cheer you on. You won’t manipulate anyone or alter any balance.
I agree 100%. Incentives are everything. Why is this so hard for people to figure out? I think there is joy in denying others opportunity through the exercise of naked power, no matter how petty or abstract.
What does it actually mean to man up if I treat her as the gentleman I am and she still fucks some douche? Should I ignore her?
“Now naturally, few conservatives will take up this call to arms. Have you heard any of them discussing the possibility of rearranging contractual marriage, the workplace, and religion to make it easier for men to ascend to a gloried position in society?”
Actually, yes. Traditionalists and reactionaries have harbored such fantasies for a long time. When that brinksmanship spoof about outlawing divorce went up in the wake of the victory of Prop 8 in California, my friends and I thought we’d donate, just to show these assclowns that, yes, outlawing divorce is something we’d support in order to save marriage.
The problem is, these traditionalists are considered the “dirty secret” of the mainstream conservative movement. They don’t get the media time guys like Bennett do.
Man up for this:
http://izismile.com/2011/10/27/what_junk_food_does_to_girls_part_3_28_pics.html
“I’d like to order a #2, the Bait-n-Switch Combo”
If you haven’t noticed, our society has always been a mechanism to transfer wealth from men to women. In the past, men obtained value from this transfer.
Now, the wealth transfer has become exaggerated (think Social Security and all pension systems, and health care). Don’t forget the lower productivity of most women in real jobs (about 10% or less output in medicine, when they used to measure such stuff.)
In addition, men still earn more than women in aggregate but women own more of the national wealth. Women call this unfair.
And, nowadays, men get almost nothing from most forms of wealth transfer to women.
Imagine the consternation if some group of men decided to start a health care system just for men. The cost would be about 25% or less than it costs to cover women and children, by rough estimate. Imagine this men. You could afford to pay for health care, instead of begging your employer or government to give it to you. And, you could retire several years younger if you were not supporting aging, worthless (to you) females.
Naturally, the govt would outlaw such efforts. Which, tell me everything I need to know about this govt. Meanwhile, we have Women’s Health Centers, Women’s Pavilions, and Breast Centers. The last is a wildly expensive form of cosmetic breast surgery.
Now, men who make a lot of money can tolerate this nonsense if they have a sense of humor or irony. (It gets harder as you get older.) But average guys are just getting screwed by the system. Why the hell should they get married or make themselves useful in any way to a female unless she provides the one thing a male really needs from a woman?
Wouldn’t it be nice to get off the grid?
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Amen Brother!!! You have got it 100% right.
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“Religion is dead in the water.”
You clearly haven’t done an ethnography of Mormonism (but who has?) If you did, you’d fine that innate gender differences, and corresponding optimal roles, are still taught and maintained, much to the criticism and condemnation of the popular secular and feminist mindset.
A quick point about the disparity in college enrollment and degrees granted between the sexes – this is probably them most commonly cited evidence of men’s failings, and serves as the basis for all sorts of pessimistic projections.
BUT if you look more closely at the data, you’ll recognize that much of this gap can be explained by the fact that vocational and technical education in female dominated areas has largely been absorbed by degree granting institutions. This trend coincides precisely with women’s numerical ascendency in academic institutions and has had far less impact on similar training in male dominated areas.
Also women tend to work in areas where there are significant, often ornamental, credentialing requirements, such as primary education, public administration, and Human Resources. So you see many more women returning to school in order to obtain additional credentials because they work in jobs that require these credentials for each promotion or change in job role.
If you look at enrollment, and degrees granted for the same subset of programs that were part of the ‘traditional’ 1970 university, you’ll find that the gap between the sexes is much less pronounced and often favors men.
WRONG WRONG WRONG.
Yes, women are out of control, but Game is about taming the wild beast and bringing her to heel. Marriage becomes viable when you know Game. You can control your wife and you can marry the right one (feminine, traditional, nonslutty). Game is necessary because feminism has made relationships more challenging in the face of narcissistic/empowered women chasing their impulses and alphas.
Game allows men to be happily married in the face of a society that hates marriage.
Game plus a lifestyle architecture that supports the woman being dependent on you and being unable to steal your shit.
Game alone is not enough.
Good article. Here are four companion essays:
http://fisheaters.com/garbagegeneration.html
http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/devlin_home_ec_01.htm
http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html
http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2006/the_return_of_patriarchy
Game rules.
I fully agree with avoiding mentally defecting women, through years of alchohol hanging around bars & clubs
Th description of mra’s applying feminist tactics is clearly wrong, mra’s & mgtow are specifically designed to give men a viable option without women, so damaged by courts & their children, homes & families stripped from them, contact with women & the society which legally allowed it to occur, is all but a reminder of how they were destroyed
Men so destroyed have literally no other choice, but to become mgtow, other men seeing the same choose mgtow, to prevent it from happening to them
Trying to imply feminist tactics to mra’s, is ridiculous, as women have never been assraped in court & society the way men have been for centuries, first by traditionalists as fodder for governments & stayathome moms, & now complete & outright destruction of men even wanting to participate in raising a family or making a living, ie rampant affirmative action in universities & stem industries
MRA’s & MGTOW dont want equality for men, they dont want affirmative action for men, or politically correct grovelling by manginas, they want freedom to raise their families & earn a living, something men have always fought for
Societies have always had MRA’s, but as men arent retards like most women, they didnt give themselves a gender specific title, they chose to call themselves, militias, or minute men & chose to fight for the rights of everyone
It is only because women, being the morons they are chose to instead of fighting for the rights of society, they chose blindly to demand rights be enabled for a single gender, ie them the women, they betrayed the men who have always fought for the rights of society, regardless of the poverty & lack of political power men have had for centuries
Men getting screwed by elites & aristocrats is legendary compared to the relatively cushy, sex slaves & glass ceiling & other retarded crap women chose to use to screw over men, & the rights they fought for society to have at large
[…] seeing some interesting parallels. In particular, both groups have legitimate grievances, but the legitimate grievances aren’t what’s driving most of those in both […]
The issue is more fundamental than just the family courts or the attitude of many women. Both Bennett as well as many of the people here seem to be unaware of such fundamentals.
Getting married and having kids represents 20 plus years of wage/debt slavery for 90% of the male populace, regardless of the attitude of the women. Many of us do not consider this to a rational choice, especially considering the stagnant, no-growth economy that we have these days. Being a slacker is a rational choice in a zero-sum, no-growth economy. It may be the most optimal choice.
There is another factor to consider as well. Many people loose their ability to maintain their careers starting around age 40. This is the result of the “up or out” policies that seem to be the norm today in the business world as well as the lack of opportunities to start ones own company. Career tracks are becoming shorter and it would appear that living a low-cost life-style, avoiding the expensive overhead associated with having a family and being able to retire to some tropical place is the more rational choice.
I understand this thinking.
I also have that feeling that family formation only makes personal sense if it’s not a financial burden, but if you have so much money that there is nothing better to spend it on.
So we’ve been commanded to man up, mature, stop enjoying life and go back to paying child support and alimony. My response is NO, now do something about it.
[…] addthis_config = {“data_track_clickback”:true};Or whatever he calls himself this days, use to write like this all the time, the conclusion: Men will man up when women man down. The one must follow the other. The polarity […]
3. Religion is dead in the water. The fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil has been bitten, and no one who matters in the developed nations can take it seriously again until they and their shrinking descendants have been purged from the human pool. But if you want a fighting chance to return religion to some honorable place in society, and to have men return to the fold, the constant, sanctimonious drumbeat of chiding men to behave must stop, and be replaced with sermons that take into account the fallen nature of women. Remember, women WANT to be led. They won’t abandon the church if their natures are examined candidly and honestly, and without fear.
With Protestantism you wont make it.
I sugest the Orthodox Church.
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But there is stil a problem with Chateau’s assessment.
Basically, he sugests that the system is rigged back in favour of men. Wich is the same as saying: “Look, these losers wont make it anyway, so we better now start treating them the same way feminism sees women, and level the field because these idiots can’t climb”.
The traditionalist advice to encourage men to get fucked is suicidal, but Chateau’s advice to traditionalists to pamper men is derrotist.
Consider this: things got where they are BECAUSE men refused to “man up” long before THIS generation. Men still need to “man up”, just not in Bennets terms.
Let the chips fall where they may. Perhaps the solution will come in Tyler Durden’s style (not the PUA). Let enough men get angry and maybe they’ll decide to torch corporative dystopia. And if not, they deserve this destiniy.
I’m not speaking against game. To me its non-issue. It makes no diference bedding a slut here and there. It would be asinine to confine things in terms of immediate sexual gratification.
I have sex anytime I want and it didnt solve my problems – or made them worse. Its just a distraction.
Let enough men get angry and maybe they’ll decide to torch corporative dystopia.
I understand the violent sentiment. Are you going to arm yourself and start the revolution?
It’s a sentiment. That’s all.
However it is practical to opt out of the system.
Female suffrage may have to be revoked. After 90 years, they have made it very clear that they will always vote to have the state take money from betas to pay for the bastard spawn of bad boy alphas.
You can’t abort a baby when it’s a powerful armed adult.
Amen, brother.
*gag*
* http://izismile.com/2011/10/27/what_junk_food_does_to_girls_part_3_28_pics.html
* http://izismile.com/2010/09/16/what_junk_food_does_to_girls_10_pics.html
* http://izismile.com/2011/02/28/what_junk_food_does_to_girls_part_2_18_pics.html
The solution to this problem is simple, men pick up guns and put down the gynarchy, it could be done very easily. Either Western men do it, or they will have it done for them by others. So the answer really is to “man up,” just not in the way Bennett imagines. Game is a waste of time, I have no special interest in sex.
Yes, suicide is a “solution”.
You first.
[…] genius perspective on what’s wrong with American society in perspective of gender today. A must read. Men don’t avoid marriage and family because they have a “maturity deficit”. They rationally […]
I don’t think it’s fair to address this at all conservatives and traditionalists.
If you go back 200 years, you’ll find conservatives and traditionalists who didn’t pedestalise women. In fact, women were rightly the property of their men. No suffrage. Heaven.
You’re talking about modern conservatives. There’s an important difference. Even modern conservatives though are a million times better than filthy leftist scum.
Any social philosophy that does not take into account the motivations that acrue from technology is divorced from reality.
I agree with this article’s description of modern women and our feminist culture. But, Bennet has a point. Men these days are pathetic. Almost every guy I know from highschool is now in his late 20′s. They are almost all working at dead end jobs for a little above minimum wage. They spend hours a day playing video games. They are obsessed with professional sports and actually wear football jerseys (like children). They spend their nights getting wasted playing beer pong. They are all fat and out of shape. They don’t take care of themselves and dress like children (jean shorts and t-shirts). Many still live with their mothers. They are incapable of having an intelligent conversation about anything and many haven’t read a book since highschool. If you don’t think this is a serious problem, I don’t know what you are smoking.
Most people are vapid. Was it ever otherwise?
Unmotivated and vapid, or motivated and vapid. The human condition is such that 90% of anything is crap.
I’d be open to a different interpretation, but my guess is that if you look closely you’ll find vapid people in suits in respectable jobs in the past, versus vapid people in football jerseys now.
Now naturally, few conservatives will take up this call to arms. Have you heard any of them discussing the possibility of rearranging contractual marriage, the workplace, and religion to make it easier for men to ascend to a gloried position in society?
Patriarchal religions still exist and flourish today – even in the US and Europe.
I see my comment did not make the cut.
FWIW Aleister Crowley considered Christianity a religion for the weak.
[…] with circumspection upon dudes who don’t seem to want to grow up. Into the fray jumps a blog entry that takes apart some of Bennett’s arguments…and more truth be told….some of the counters are pretty sensible too. […]
This guy grew up in an era when women were still… women! The lucky bastard got to know what feminine, lovely, western women were like! He also happen to get into the labor force when the US economy was booming and prospering.
I’d say he’s hell of a lot luckier than us young guys.
William Bennett, if you actually meet the women in our generation, you would be a miserable motherfuckin’ beta like most young American men.
Shut the f*ck up, Mr. Bennett!
Your post is avesome. I suggest to make an animation about it (in style of this animation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwogDPh-Sow ).
This could make possible for many to digest this information. This REAL reason why many mens doesnt marry should be known.
I live in Romania and few months ago was adopted an alimony law (for now it states that alimony only for 20+ years of marriage, but I am pretty sure that this period will be shortened in next years). The same law makes easier for a women to kick out the men from the house even if the house belongs to him (before marriage). So, even here the law gets more and more misandrist. That’s why I decided to not marry. I worked hard to have my own apartment, zero debt, pretty good savings, a high paid job, and happyness and I really don’t want for a women (alpha male leftover) who had fun with a lot of cocks to destroy my acheivements.
Beta Male
The only downside is that women become even more self-important because they think they’ve become more intelligent through higher education and their career as being a “professional” foot soldier, before coming home and watching reality TV while reading their horoscope.
Being feminine is an occupation. Women know that feminity is exactly what attracts men and maintains attraction. The reason women are feminine is so that they can be supported by a man, or in order to fuck a man.
A women who spends all her time earning income has no reason to be feminine. Her job of support is already accomplished.
So women working has a downside.
And this is again why I consider the best arrangement is for your woman not to have any job. Forget about whatever income she can bring in. That is insignificant in comparison for the value of her doting on you, and relying on you.
I detect moderate amounts of mad in this post. Get some beer and chill, man, they’re just some conservatively beta chumps.
What you guys need to keep in mind is that ever since the Jewish Neocons displaced the traditional WASP conservatives in the 80s, the definition of a conservative has shifted dramatically away from its traditional meaning. Many of the mainstream “conservatives” today are not culturally conservatives at all.
The new conservatives only want lower taxes, lots of immigration and endless wars on behalf of Israel. That’s all!
-John
I don’t know the particular “conservative traditionalist” but I can’t agree with the reaction that styles men as victims. It removes all that masculinity is, and ignores some obvious solutions.
Nathan: “Men these days are pathetic”
You are one to judge?
If you struggled through the same issues these other men you mention had, then continue to call them pathetic, then you are judgmental and, frankly, a douche.
However, if you had doors opened for you, or lived in a matriarchal household thus indoctrinated with feminist standards, then you are an even bigger douche.
Just can’t leave off this “manning up” stuff.
The battlefields of Europe are littered with the bones of millions of young men who answered the call to “man up” in the first 1/2 of the 20th century.
Where did that get them? Anytime you hear someone telling you to “man up”, that person is not your friend. They just want you to be a more useful tool.
We men need to make a secret pack to promote other men, to hire only men for management positions. This is the only way to curve the damage caused to our society. Women will thank us once thier vaginas begin to tingle again for the increase in higher status males.