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You can tell a lot about what people really value by… eureka!… listening to their conversations.

Women sometimes talk about sex — and they can be surprisingly raunchy recalling or imagining the details of intimate congress — but sex talk is hardly a major focus of their socializing amongst girl friends. Usually, one girl (the token slut) will crack a joke about the shape of the penis she inhaled and the others will collaterally cackle as part of an alliance preserving exercise. The smutcluck is dropped quickly for extended emphasis on subjects nearer and dearer to the female heart: Relationships and love.

(Slutwalk women who stick with the raunch talk for an awkwardly uncomfortable length of conversational air space tend to elicit disapproving glares and then social abandonment from their girl friends. Chicks have a limited capacity for enduring sex talk, even in their female friends.)

When women veer into R&L, as is the frequent wont of their meandering sex, their conversation assumes a VERY SERIOUS TONE.

***

INTERCHANGEABLE GIRL #1: “We’re back together.”

INTERCHANGEABLE GIRL #2: “Oh really! I didn’t know…”

INTERCHANGEABLE GIRL #!: “You didn’t know?”

[twenty  more minutes of delicate social maneuvering before getting to the meat of the topic]

INTERCHANGEABLE GIRL #2: “It’s just that he did this really nice thing and I really love that.”

INTERCHANGEABLE GIRL #1: “mmhmm, yeah that’s sweet.”

INTERCHANGEABLE GIRL #2: “And anyhow I think he tried to say he loves me.”

INTERCHANGEABLE GIRL #1: “He dropped the L word! Wow, that’s big.”

INTERCHANGEABLE GIRL #2: “Yeah, I know!”

[two more hours of hot debate about the precise wording of the boyfriend’s confession and whether it counts as a sincere exclamation of love. tack on another hour of girls #1, 3, and 4 alternately affirming girl #2’s decision to stay with her boyfriend and playing a gentle devil’s advocate for dumping the guy.]

***

Men, in the starkest of contrasts, rarely, if ever, have conversations about R&L. Instead, what do cool dudes talk about when the subject isn’t sports, work or hobbies?

***

ONE OF A KIND COOL DUDE #1: “So what happened last night? I saw you hitting on that hot blonde.”

ALSO ONE OF A KIND COOL DUDE #2: “Dude, I got her back to my place!”

VERILY, ONE OF A KIND COOL DUDE #3: “No shit! Did you tap it?”

ALSO ONE OF A KIND COOL DUDE #2: “Oh man, she was crazy. She was down on my knob, doing this thing…”

[twenty minutes of high fives and rapt attention as excruciatingly crude, detailed account is told of sex positions and composition of female squirt juice.]

NOT SO COOL DUDE #4: “Man, great stuff. Does this mean you’re gonna date her for a while?”

[sound of air being let out of balloon. full-body group cringing and disappointed looks exchanged.]

ONE OF A KIND COOL DUDE #1: “How ’bout those Dodgers?”

***

The examples I presented here are highly illustrative of real life among normal psychologically healthy human beings, but neither presupposes that men never concern themselves with relationships and love, nor that women are never interested in talking about sex. The key difference between the sexes is this:

Women are primarily interested in R&L, and secondarily interested in sex. Men are primarily interested in sex, and secondarily interested in R&L.

To punctuate the point, try to imagine a conversation between men that focused on R&L without any familiar, tension-alleviating digressions into sex talk.

***

BUTTPLAY ENTHUSIAST MANLET #1: “We’re back together. It’s been one month.”

BUTTPLAY ENTHUSIAST MANLET #2: “Aww! Tell me all about it!”

BUTTPLAY ENTHUSIAST MANLET #1: “Wellllll… she’s been really good to me lately.”

BUTTPLAY ENTHUSIAST MANLET #2: “That’s really great.”

BUTTPLAY ENTHUSIAST MANLET #1: “AAAAaaaand… I think she might’ve said she loves me.”

BUTTPLAY ENTHUSIAST MANLET #2: “Wow, that’s huge! How did that come up?”

BUTTPLAY ENTHUSIAST MANLET #1: “I’m not ENTIRELY sure she said the EXACT words ‘i love you’ but it sounded like she was trying to say them.”

BUTTPLAY ENTHUSIAST MANLET #2: “I knew there was something between you two!”

***

Preposterous on the face of it. No straight man has a conversation like this with his buddies, unless he’s auditioning for a part in a Broadway play called “My Colon For Old Fags” or “My Own Private Hide-A-Pole”.

Yes, yes, so many of you are shocked by this news. “Tell us something we don’t know, CH.” But we have entered a cultural dystopia when this common sense is rapidly being distorted and replaced by feminist and manlet poopytalk. Tragically, some of the SJW poopytalk is reaching the ears of impressionable naifs, and setting some of them on a course for self-destruction, especially those whose emotional stability is marginal.

There are CH readers with children. One of these naifs swallowing feminist slut cunt lies by the bucketful could one day be your daughter.

When bitterbitches ape the mannerisms and sociosexual predilections of men, their butthurt try-hardness is a transparent ruse all but the lappiest lapdogs can see through. A girl screeching about “opening her legs for every man BUT YOU” is assuming a twisted, false pride in a domain normally and healthfully reserved for men which she knows, deep inside where the armor of her lies yields to the rumbling growl of her id, is a phony front serving no purpose other than blind rage at the retreating world of a good man’s sincere love leaving her behind.

Case in point: The “dick is abundant and low value” girl I had to disembowel as a lesson for the others. With much pain and sorrow in my heart, I took the shiv to her exposed ego and performed a necessary duty. A duty that perhaps would, one day, somewhere, and in a fashion that social science studies would struggle to capture in their arid data sets, rescue an innocent young woman or young man from living by the lies of a loser in love.

For those still wondering what this is all about, a revelation. Above all, Le Chateau abides the Keats’ ode: “Beauty is truth, truth beauty.” Our glorious, gleaming civilization is getting uglier and further from the truth by the day. A mind full of lies contorts the body into misshapen ugliness. An ugly visage will infect the mind with ego-assuaging lies. Lies must be exposed at birth, or they will grow monstrous and consume everything beautiful in their path. In the wake of lies, ugliness follows like a toxic spindrift.

Therefore, the CH Excalibur… the Holy Heartistian Shiv… drives through the bullshit until the gore stains the hilt, so that beauty and truth may once again assert their rightful place as earthly host to humanity, and the loveless lampreys, despite their worst fears, find to their surprise a new hope for a better life…… or slink away to the icy outback where their limbic disease is quarantined to their own souls.

UPDATE

❤️SCIENCE❤️ presents her rump and accepts a meaty intrusion from yours truly before looking over her shoulder with love in her eyes.

Findings reveal that while communication patterns tend to be supportive and relationship-focused in women’s bathrooms, the graffiti in men’s bathroom walls are replete with sexual content and insults, in the course of the construction of hegemonic masculinity.

H/t commenter Strahlemann. The sex-based difference in predilection for R&L or sex talk is evident even in anonymous bathroom stalls. Chicks scrawl odes to LTRs. Men scratch sonnets to sexual slang.

If you play on Team CH, you bat 1.000. How can you not like those odds?

200 Responses to “What Do Women Really Value? Relationships And Love”

  1. Ripp says:

    Bravissimo, CH. Well done.

  2. […] What Do Women Really Value? Relationships And Love […]

  3. Do they really value love? I’m not so sure, at least in the way men do. Maybe we should say that women value R&R: Relationships & Resources.

    • sweet dew says:

      “Maybe we should say that women value R&R: Relationships & Resources.”

      thank you for reminding us of the beautiful truth, LBF.

      this was a cuddly, weepy piece from one of our dear leaders. spring love in the air perhaps?

      we would all like to fall into the true love delusion, but the minute a man says the L word, the woman knows he’s weak and she’s got him. this is not what she wants and she will punish him accordingly.

      she wants to be punished continuously by a man just out of her reach. at heart she is a base, masochistic animal shaped by millions of years of evolution in a harsh unforgiving environment.

    • corvinus says:

      Do they really value love? I’m not so sure, at least in the way men do.

      They value their own love. Not that of the man’s.

    • PA says:

      They do value love. (All red pill conceptual parameters assumed when I say this.)

      One can — compelled either by masculine love of analysis or by spergy contrarianism — explain it in terms of biochemistry or frame it in terms of female resource-extracton wiles, but sometimes it’s pointless. I can look at, caress, fuck a beautiful young thing and at times like that I’m not interested in the clinical reality of the crimson meat-and-bone matrix underneath her creamy skin.

      If you ever had a woman love you fully you understand that they value love.

    • earl says:

      ‘Do they really value love?’

      Yes.

      It’s that most don’t know what love is or have never had it before. It’s hard to put value to something if you’ve never had it.

      • Sentient says:

        Not true – they value love – but is maternal love. It is not masculine ideas of love. Hence hypergamy… hypergamy goes against all masculine ideas of love, and by extension commitment… Maternal love is absent hypergamous urges… a mother still loves her death row inmate offspring the same… her laid off beta chubby hubby… not so much Starbuck.

      • earl says:

        What is the masculine idea of love then?

      • Sentient says:

        C’mon Earl… I expected better of you, what’s that bit about a man laying down his life etc?

      • earl says:

        So you should be able to answer my question. What is the masculine idea of love?

      • BigAl says:

        Earl, the closest I ever came to the masculine idea of love was a chicken fried steak back in college. She stole my heart and raised my cholesterol. I think it feels something like that.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        Earl, men and women are so different it’s astounding. The masculine virtues of truth, justice, loyalty, honor and courage are meaningless to women just as equality, vulnerability and nurturing are foreign to men. It’s important to understand that while most of us here find modern liberal society to be revolting and undesirable, this is a utopia for your average young girl. They wouldn’t have it any other way and who can blame them. Likewise, while most men would consider 1950s America to be an ideal society, women did not enjoy having to marry an average joe provider and shun the bad boys. It’s just the way it is.

      • @Sentient ~ Yes, that’s what I was getting at. It’s a different kind of love.

      • earl says:

        ‘The masculine virtues of truth, justice, loyalty, honor and courage are meaningless to women just as equality, vulnerability and nurturing are foreign to men.’

        These are the virtues I learned which had no gender assignment to them:

        Faith, hope, love
        Temperance, prudence, fortitude, justice

        They probably are displayed differently between the sexes…but both are capable of doing them if they know who to ask for it.

        The modern liberal utopia actually seeks to remove all virtue by making vice its equal.

      • PA says:

        “this is a utopia for your average young girl.”

        Women in America across all age, race, and class categories are unhappy. Vox Day has a post about that today. This is borne by studies and by proximate indicators such as use of antidepressants.

        Women may like current society in concept just like men may like a hyper masculine environment such as a military camp in concept too, but in reality both are miserable. Yin yang balance.

        Fifties were not man’s paradise. Atomization, a new phenomenon, was the source of that discontent.

        [CH: correct. surveys consistently show women have been getting unhappier since the sexual/feminist devolution of the 1960s/70s. there are posts in the CH archives discussing this topic.]

      • mendozatorres says:

        @BigAl, more details on that chicken fried steak. Don’t tease us like that!

      • sweet dew says:

        “they value love – but is maternal love.”

        lol. if the average woman is lucky she can have maybe 12 kids in her life. she values her sexy sons because they can spread her genes through potentially thousands of offspring.

        it’s relationships she values because of the survival advantages they can confer. I for one admire a woman’s ability to use people and then drop them without a second thought after ripping out their guts in family court. the x goes back unbroken to the last walk out of africa. mitochondrial eve was tough. she had no time for love. her descendants are no different.

        part of becoming a man is realizing your high school girls didn’t love you like all that diznee fiction taught you. they just wanted your genes. and maybe even harder is admitting you didn’t love them. you just wanted their bodies. this knowledge will set you free. there is no such thing as “using” a woman. she always knows what she’s doing.

        women value an alpha because he can take more from his relationships than even a woman can. a man is often judged on the nature and depth of his appetites. she wants to see her teenage sons and alpha lover eating and screwing non stop. i’ve always had a great time giving her what she wants. nature is perfect.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        @earl

        Women naturally tend toward vice when virtue is not enforced by the males of the group. They don’t care about society or any of that stuff. All this stuff about spinsters and sore anuses is wishful thinking; if they end up as spinsters it’s because they chose to. All these little whores can ride the carousel into their early thirties and they know damn well they can find a sucker to settle down with if it suits them because there are no other options for the average guy. And if they’d rather just take their money and settle down alone without having to play house with these serfs and let them between their legs, that’s fine too! Because the IRS will extort every last penny on pain of prison-rape.

        You were taught that because you grew up in a better time, when the grown ups were still in charge.

      • ER says:

        DP – I feelin you… feelin you bro… I like your verve playa… I got gas in the beemer… Sarge wit me?

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        @PA

        I thought military camp was great. But what I meant was that women don’t know what’s good for them. If allowed, the r-selected lizard brain predominates just like in mystery meat the primitive African blood is disproportionately dominant.

        And re 50’s. I agree, atomization is a big thing for sure. John Calhoun’s mouse experiment predicted alot of these things.

        What I meant was women are going to be naturally repulsed by a group of men that are being dispossessed and marginalized without even putting up a fight. Like the last CH article said, they are acting out because white men are letting them act out.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        @ER

        You’ll have to translate that urban pidgin into English for me and take down the picture of the ugly mongrel. Then we can talk!

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        @PA

        As we all know, utopias never really turn out quite as good as we think they will. Still, young women aren’t going to vote for Ron Paul or Pat Buchanan so things are only going to get worse.

        [CH: that’s really the crux of the paradux. women are unhappier, but they do, and will continue to, vote for the feminized dystopia. at least the unmarried ones. and the unmarried ones are growing in proportion to the married ones.]

        Women WANT to be under the arm of a strong, manly provider, but the media and government has made it damn near impossible for a white man to be that.

        [it helps when the overarching culture reaffirms one’s gut instincts.]

        So the r-selected lizard brain takes over. I don’t know, all this is above my paygrade, but fools like commenter ER seem to be the norm now; base creatures without any pride or virtue.

        [there are racial diffs among women in the matter of how hard they’ll take a turn for the r, but a general move in that direction, aided by the disenfranchisement of beta provider men, is evident.]

      • theasdgamer says:

        @ Daniel

        women did not enjoy having to marry an average joe provider

        Totally wrong. Women schemed to be able to marry a plumber. Men had higher status back then and men as a whole were sexually attractive to women.

        [CH: there’s something to this. before credentialism ran amok and women became financially self-sufficient, working class men had more sexual market status than they do today.]

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        CH, in response to what you were saying about r-selection becoming predominant, I think the biggest weakness of whites is the fact that within our own race there seems to be two distinct ethno-social classes, and modern society is breeding the lower one at a very high rate and stifling the higher k-selected one. Look at inner-city British chavs and then look at a rural Englishman from the countryside. Two distinct ethnic groups.

      • Sean Fielding says:

        Never heard yet of a man named Faith, Hope or Prudence. Neither Gloria, Joy, Charity nor Chastity.

        These girls’ names exist in most European languages. Seems our ancestors believed the virtues vary between the sexes.

      • theasdgamer says:

        CH, back when I was a lad and rode a dinosaur to school…heh…boys were taught to stand tall, back straight, not to take women too seriously (hence my “pussy is just pussy” maxim), and do masculine stuff like sports (no girls’ sports back then to speak of), hunting, fishing, working on cars, boy scouts, etc. This message was given to all boys in the culture at large. “Father Knows Best” was a prime time show. Same with “Leave it to Beaver” and “My Three Sons.” Feminism was creeping into prime time, too, of course. “That Girl”, “Bewitched”, “Leave it to Jeannie” and other shows demeaned men.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Don’t forget Family Affair with Uncle Bill and his butler Mr. French! 😉

    • Daniel Plainview says:

      They do, but it’s a more fleeting and conditional variety than the masculine conception. Men are from Mars, women are from Venus…

      If haply a fool should find for himself
      Wealth or a woman’s love
      Pride waxes in him but wisdom never
      And onward he fares in his folly

    • Sentient says:

      and emotions.

  4. On a related note, has anyone else noticed that women young and old seem to be talking explicitly about sex more often in public these days? Recently on a few occasions my friends and I have inadvertently overheard the sexual conversations of groups of girls and women out in restaurants.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Now that there’s nobody around to shame them, they’ve become imitation men…

      And like all imitations, they try extra hard to mimic the real thing.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        Many young women of my age group seem to literally lack any human soul or ability to feel shame for their actions.

      • Captain Obvious says:

        DP, there are still good women out there NAWALT blah blah blah – there just aren’t nearly as many anymore. Also, women are SUPPOSED to be sexual creatures, it’s just that with chemical abort!fac!ents like the b!rth control p!ll, their l!cent!ousness does not result in a l!ve birth n!ne m0nths later.

      • I’m no prude, but I find it off-putting.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        @Captain Obvious

        Yeah there are some, but in my experience they tend to be sheltered types and once they get out there and figure out that these days they can have their cake and eat it too, the metamorphosis begins and within a year or two they are indistinguishable from your run-of-the-mill tinderella.

      • eric says:

        Imitation is the sincerest form of flatterty

      • K says:

        “in my experience they tend to be sheltered types and once they get out there and figure out that these days they can have their cake and eat it too, the metamorphosis begins and within a year or two they are indistinguishable from your run-of-the-mill tinderella.”

        yep. got to snatch em up quick when you find one like that because you’re right. it doesn’t take before they end up just like all the others. sometimes end up worse. when they’ve been sheltered and then get let loose a lot of times they think they need to make up for lost time because that’s what all their friends are telling them. bad news.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        “a lot of times they think they need to make up for lost time because that’s what all their friends are telling them.”

        Dead on the money.

      • CarpeOro says:

        Lady in the street but a freak in bed… they ignore that classic advice at their own risk.

    • R Maximus says:

      Daniel it’s interesting that you say that. Last night I was contemplating some of the behaviour of my ex and just found myself marvelling at her absolute lack of empathy. Normal gal, but a level of self absorption that is frankly sociopathic. And then I started thinking about all the girls I know, the wives, girlfriends, sisters and cousins and with a couple of exceptions they can only empathize with other women over issues that affect them personally. Sympathy I see, but as a form of self gratification and indulgence.

      • Sentient says:

        Yeah – it’s solipsism… use it to your advantage.

      • Daniel Plainview says:

        Yeah, it’s a plague. I know a girl who got an abortion the other day and got drunk the same night like it was nothing.

      • Anonymous says:

        Maybe not as dramatic but – I knew a girl who could not say ‘I’m sorry’.

        She was really sweet and very loving and it took a long time to notice – but when I did – a lot of the vernier began falling away – and what it revealed was frightening. Her eyes would change to dark orbs – like looking down a dry well.

        Empathy, sympathy – I can’t really say – but something was missing there.

    • Glengarry says:

      Quid, qui clam latuit reddente obscena puella,
      Et vidit, quae mos ipse videre vetat?
      Di melius, quam nos moneamus talia quemquam!
      Ut prosint, non sunt expedienda tamen.

      What of him who lurked in hiding while the girl performed her obscenities, and saw what even custom forbids to see? Heaven forfend I should give anyone such counsel! though it may help [to quell a passion], ’twere better not to use it.

  5. […] What Do Women Really Value? Relationships And Love […]

  6. mendozatorres says:

    “A mind full of lies contorts the body into misshapen ugliness. An ugly visage will infect the mind with ego-assuaging lies. Lies must be exposed at birth, or they will grow monstrous and consume everything beautiful in their path. In the wake of lies, ugliness follows like a toxic spindrift.”

    This!

  7. Greg Eliot says:

    “My Own Private Hide-A-Pole”.

    Heh, heh… a B-52 sized dip o’ the wing to ya!

  8. earl says:

    The locker room talk amongst guys pales in comparison to the stuff gals talk about when they get on that subject.

    • Ohiomega says:

      Yes, I find that my buddies are more reticent about sex talk lately, perhaps because A) the same narrative causing women to be more brazen and proud has convinced men to be more cautious and modest, or B) none of them has sex outside of relationships, and they insist on bringing their girlfriends around to every social occasion (there are no guy’s nights out anymore), therefore they must tread lightly lest one of their drunk friends blurt out some private detail and. . . trouble in paradise.

  9. anonymous says:



    Every woman who can do this wants you to take full advantage of it in bed (or on the kitchen counter), ropes included. That’s what they want.

  10. Captain Obvious says:

    Need some Game analysis of this eTrade commercial:

    • Captain Obvious says:

      She’s got Beta Bux on her arm, she ignores an Hasidim, she passes on an opportunity for mudsharkery, and she only gets the gina tinglezzelolzlolzzz for the Bad Boy who bucked the trend and went to see a barber??? I feel like there is subliminal Truth Talk at work in that piece.

      • Captain Obvious says:

        And at the other extreme, Evil Psychiatry Inc has got this rank humiliation of the shegetz on auto-loop; I must see it two or three times a day, and I bet I could see it twenty times a day if I left the TV on:

      • BigAl says:

        This is one of the worst ads ever

      • Captain Obvious says:

        You talking about the Old Navy with Seinfeld Skank?

    • Captain Obvious says:

      The other weird think about the eTrade commercial is that she has a dark swarthy mediterannean beta bux on her arm, but she gets the gina tinglezzlolzzolzz at the end for a much lighter-complexioned germanic looking dude. Something strange is at work in that commercial.

    • earl says:

      Kevin Spacey revisits his role as the serpent.

    • earl says:

      Either you guys are overthinking this, or not noticing the obvious.

      Here’s the analysis.

      She notices all the guys are wearing beards…that’s the trend. Then she notices the clean shaven guy…starting a new trend. All the subliminal stuff about her tingles has got you guys going for a loop.

      • Ohiomega says:

        Don’t disturb their Jew paranoia, earl! They have nothing else.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        There’s something to be said for both sides…

        But the thing that jumps out at me is she’s the center of it all… it all revolves around her and how great she is…

        And Spacey (heh, heh, the serpent) is laying it on thick, bolstering her grand smugness.

        The central theme remains fem-centric.

        Granted, thankful for small favors in that the usual suspect didn’t have her panting over a darky at the end.

      • earl says:

        Spacey is such a good actor that he just plays himself.

      • mendozatorres says:

        The greatest trick Kevin Spacey ever pulled was convincing the world he’s an actor.

      • Ohiomega says:

        It’s easier to play someone over-the-top such as Captain Jack Sparrow than to play an interesting straight man.

      • Captain Obvious says:

        > “All the subliminal stuff about her tingles has got you guys going for a loop.” EARL – do not kid yourself – this eTrade commercial is a carefully weaved metaphor/allegory about HYPERGAMY. I agree with the analysis of Spacey as the Serpent. But what I don’t understand is the ridicule of Hipster Neck Beards – that’s very odd – especially since one of the Hipsters is an Hasidim and another is a Nog.

      • Captain Obvious says:

        > “Don’t disturb their Jew paranoia, earl! They have nothing else.” It would make sense, though, if the clean-shaven guy at the very end of the eTrade commercial were supposed to represent a red-head like F*ckerberg.

      • earl says:

        ‘EARL – do not kid yourself – this eTrade commercial is a carefully weaved metaphor/allegory about HYPERGAMY.’

        It’s more an example of Adam and Eve…and the serpent exploiting her weaker state and narcissistic tendencies. If that combo is what hypergamy leads to then that’s what the devil will exploit in women.

  11. pdwalker says:

    Nothing but the gospel truth.

  12. Mel Gibson says:

    Black female professor makes series of racist tweets about whites, mostly targeting white males, still has a job.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/11/boston-university-condemns-prof-racist-tweets-after-terrier-alums-bark/

    The school finally condemned her remarks after white alumns threatened to stop donations.

    • Glengarry says:

      “The school finally condemned her remarks after white alumns threatened to stop donations.”

      Those of you alumni of the appropriate age and means may find that a useful general observation. Why finance your enemies?

  13. mendozatorres says:

    There was talk about Steve McQueen yesterday. This got stuck in mod yesterday:

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/the-alpha-male-pose/

  14. juliath83 says:

    Every time I see a girl wearing a shirt that says “Love” across it I immediately substitute “Alpha” in it’s place. Remember, women are only capable of truly loving an alpha. She’s telling the whole world what she really wants, and I proceed accordingly.

    • Anonymous says:

      Exactly, that was the minor detail missing from the post title. As always, betas need not apply.

  15. amghtn says:

    Second paragraph, last sentence:
    “The smutcluck is dropped quickly for…”
    >smutcluck
    What? As in, clucking (“clucking hens”) about the smutty stories?

    [CH: yes]

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Never heard the term “hen party”?

      Sheesh, what are they teaching kids nowadays?

  16. Flip says:

    OT. The power of young tail.

    Missouri House Speaker John Diehl has exchanged sexually charged text messages with a freshman college intern, according to a report in the Kansas City Star.

    The Republican from Town and Country became speaker this year. He lives with his wife and three sons.

    Diehl, 49, last fall left Armstrong Teasdale to become a partner at Husch Blackwell LLP. Diehl was previously majority floor leader. He was elected to the Legislature in 2008, and previously served as chairman of the St. Louis County Board of Election Commissioners.

    Diehl did not immediately respond to a request for comment. A Husch Blackwell spokesman declined to comment.

    The exchanges include:

    Diehl: “God I want you right now.”

    Her: “I wish you could have me right now.”

    The Star said that in another exchange, the woman sent Diehl a picture of herself in a bikini.

    Diehl responded, “Damn girl…”

    He then wrote, “I want to see more” followed by a smiling emoji.

    The Star said Missouri Southern State University ended its Capitol internship program more than a month early, but the school declined to say why.

  17. ng85 says:

    “Preposterous on the face of it. No straight man has a conversation like this with his buddies, unless he’s auditioning for a part in a Broadway play called “My Colon For Old Fags” or “My Own Private Hide-A-Pole”.”

    You’d be surprised. My roommate is the king of the blue pill, low-T, manlet mangina White Knights. When he and his “guy” friends get together and talk about girls it sounds pretty much like what you wrote. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if your quote is taken verbatim from one of their chat fests. Yes, it’s that bad.

    They also tend to talk about how awesome a girl is based on how “smart” or “cool” she is or how much they love her “sense of humor”. They might really wanna say “She has a vagina that I want to put my dick inside of” and are just talking about other qualities to play nice like good inoffensive blue pillers. But then again, you should see the girls they date – When the looks are lacking it’s imperative you find something else about them to gush over.

    • K says:

      “you should see the girls they date – When the looks are lacking it’s imperative you find something else about them to gush over.”

      pretty sure that’s it.

  18. Strahlemann says:

    Heartistian wisdom SCIENTIFICALLY validated by gender-feminist analysis of graffiti in pubic toilets:

    “Findings reveal that while communication patterns tend to be supportive and relationship-focused in women’s bathrooms, the graffiti in men’s bathroom walls are replete with sexual content and insults, in the course of the construction of hegemonic masculinity.”

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150512075118.htm

    • dirkdiggly says:

      A gem I encountered in a men’s toilet stall at UC Berkeley:

      “Describe your shit with a movie title below!”

      Entries ranged from the glib to the hysterical…I laugh-sharted several times:

      “Waterworld, Lethal Weapon, True Grit, The Longest Yard, There Will Be Blood, etc.”

  19. Ohiomega says:

    When you say women shy away from too much sex talk, you are projecting your own Hank Hillian revulsion at hearing them molest the taboos you once thought to be firmly ensconced in the firmament. Times change.

    • oink says:

      You were warned:

      No porn!

    • CarpeOro says:

      Uh, yeah, the point of the entire post goes over your head again. The present stat of things is a change, it simply happens (as in all decaying societies) to be for the worse. Not to mention that CH didn’t say that or anyone above that I saw… he stated that when the conversation turns to R&L, there is little support for those who want to keep it focused on sex.

      • Ohiomega says:

        Same thing. The “little support for those who want to keep it focused on sex,” part is the projection.

        [CH: it’s not projection. if you have the inside scoop on girl world, you’ll hear that creeping impatience girls have for their one slut friend who can’t stop talkin bout da cock.]

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Ohiomega thinks Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman are representative of women in general.

      You were warned:

      No yentas!

  20. earl says:

    OT…but I think you guys will enjoy this musical shiv.

  21. God forgot about her….note what’s on the bed:

    • Lijorey Rasputin says:

      Unreal. The official mascot of the digital age.

    • Mel Gibson says:

      LOL let’s see those big ol titties, sweetheart.

    • earl says:

      Yelling obscenities, then crying God doesn’t love her or provide for her, yelling obscenities. That’s BPD for you.

      However not all women are like that. You can’t take one screaming crazy woman who rode the sex and money train…and then extrapolate it to the entire sex. That’s an example of a woman who is completely submerged in her sins. It’s a case by case basis.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      These orchestrated videos are becoming tiresome.

      She’s obviously some aspiring actress, and her and crew fancyt this to be some sort of edgy Neil Labute-esque short film.

  22. Lara says:

    Men aren’t valuable to women for sex, even though we enjoy it. I’d never spend money on, or put a lot of effort into seeking out opportunities for sex the way I see men do all the time.

    [CH: pithy, and applicable to most women.]

    • sweet dew says:

      “Men aren’t valuable to women for sex”

      said the overweight 5 who can’t orgasm from penetration

    • theasdgamer says:

      Lol, betas aren’t valuable to women for sex. Alphas, otoh, are. Women will chase alphas to no end.

    • Lara says:

      Even with an alpha, a woman will still feel as if she is the one giving up something more valuable by sleeping with you.

      • sweet dew says:

        “a woman will still feel as if she is the one giving up something more valuable by sleeping with you.”

        giving up, lol. that’s why she has to be TAKEN. giving something up implies her setting frame and assuming she is the prize and that’s a recipe for disaster.

        an orgasm delivered by a man has the power to change a woman’s day. it can change her whole week. anyone who’s ever been called hours later and thanked for his skilled performance knows this to be true.

        a quality man is more valuable than 100 quality women.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Even with an alpha, a woman will still feel as if she is the one giving up something more valuable by sleeping with you.

        Then why do you gals give it away so cheaply?

        Lara, we luv ya… but tend to your kitchen, woman.

      • Glengarry says:

        What about the nights she calls and begs you to come over?

    • theasdgamer says:

      And the alpha will know that his c0ck is more valuable than the woman’s pu$$y. Because so many women want it. It’s a question of supply demand.

      Supply of Alphas < supply of women women’s demand for alphas > alpha demand for women > women’s demand for betas

      Betas pay for sex. Women don’t, usually. Alphas don’t usually. Women chase alphas. Alphas don’t chase women.

      • theasdgamer says:

        WordPress ate part of my comment.

        Supply of alphas is less than supply of betas is less than supply of women;

        Women demand for betas is less than alpha demand for women is less than women demand for alphas is less than beta demand for women

    • Ohiomega says:

      Sex is a trap; it exists to create another mouth to feed (who would choose this if it weren’t attached to a great feeling?) and to transfer resources from a man to a woman for the maintenance of said life. The load you’re dumping in her unprotected cooze might as well be a large transfer to her Cayman Islands account, thus the, “Women are sex objects; men are success objects,” aphorism. Men want the sexiest woman; women want to be the sexiest woman. Women want the highest-status man; men want to be the highest-status man. Women use sex to get everything else; men use everything else to get sex. Anything that upsets this equilibrium runs against the grain of human nature.

  23. Survivorman says:

    Hate to be the one to bring up the elephant in the living room here, but;

    Shoes. Women place exceptional value on.. shoes..

  24. Anonymous says:

    “Columbia U (!) set to put trigger warnings on Ovid. ”

    This whole idea of “triggering” is so fucking stupid and pathetic that at some level I can’t even believe it’s real. Boo hoo, somebody hurt my feelings. Sob stories are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink but mine.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      It’s my understanding that this “triggering” is a warning that seeing or reading the given material would make one want to mimic it.

      Or has the original term morphed into a connotation of “warning, this material might offend”?

      • Anonymous says:

        My understanding is, the latter. Of course the generation of purse puppies growing up protected from such “triggers” will one day meet up with what seems like the mother of all triggers, namely “reality”.

      • cheesetrader says:

        The latter – the material presented is so traumatic as to trigger deep angst for the special snowflakes

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Sigh… yet another example of the corruption of language.

      • Glengarry says:

        All the poor little girls have PTSD you see, because of their traumatic combat experience. Like for real. Or perhaps they got it last week at the frat party and will replenish it further this week. Or perhaps they don’t really have it.

        However that may be, mentioning forbidden topics or hateful facts will cause them to black out, experience freaky movie effects, run around with their heads rotating while spewing pea soup, or suchlike. It’s the fault of the patriarchy really.

  25. mendozatorres says:

    First, there’s a little gem in this article that explains her plight: http://www.elephantjournal.com/2015/04/why-i-love-unavailable-men/

    Second, read the comment by gailen. Eesh!:

    “I have had so many men in my life, I wanted them to notice me, well what I really wanted was for them to adore me, not change me.Not tell me everything I was not.I wanted this deep soul soul connection I wanted them to see me and love me anyway”

    • mendozatorres says:

      “I am not proud of the way I feel , of the wealth of feelings that I have. I look out into th world and try to find an example.

      I have never ever, never , had a man who put me first. Who woke up and just made me a cup of coffee , instead of waiting to be waited.”

      • earl says:

        This is probably the crux of the matter. Sure women can have guys go inside them physically thinking that’s love…when in reality their hearts are shut to receiving what love truly is. And if it is shut…how will they know what love is about? That’s why nobody sticks around.

        Of course I probably think differently than a lot of them do since I’m a guy. Sex is a physical expression of love…but it’s an empty endeavor if there is no emotional, mental, and spiritual connection behind it.

      • Ronin says:

        earl,
        I wonder if multiple p and ds, hookups, or fails creates some resistance to hormones, or alteration of women’s brain regions that produce the ones responsible for that capacity.

        Like oxytocin, etc.

  26. cheesetrader says:

    Dicklit is apparently now a thing – pretty good reading list presented here in a feeble attempt to shame white men – and yea – I own about 30 and have read most of the rest: http://the-toast.net/2015/05/12/books-that-literally-all-white-men-own/#idc-cover

    • Greg Eliot says:

      I didn’t catch the whole list because those sites make my computer churn with their interminable shockwave pop-ups.

      No mention of The Turner Diaries or Camp Of The Saints or any of the Harold Covington Northwest novels, I’m guessing.

      • cheesetrader says:

        Nope – it’s actually a pretty decent list of books even if presented as snark.

        The list for women would be: People magazine, 50 Shades, something by Jane Austen, Eat Prey Love and if she’s a psycho, Plath’s Bell Jar – (I have a rule that I will NOT date a girl who likes that book)

      • mendozatorres says:

        People magazine! FTW!

      • Laguna Beach Fogey says:

        Lots of Jews, Americans, and Jewish-Americans [or do I repeat myself?] on that list.

        This may explain part of the problem.

    • Glengarry says:

      Me, I own and have read 66 books, girls. 39 in the Old Testament, and 27 in the New. Favorite? Song of Solomon.

  27. McCainwhiteEuropean says:

    The neocons send Kerry to Russia for dialogue.

    So for two years the U.S. through antagonizing and threatening pushes Russia into the arms of China with what has historically been an unnatural alliance.
    Now Obama’s neocon advisers want to start some kind of diplomacy after putting in motion irreparable damage to our dollar and strategic strength which the U.S. will feel the effects of for the next 20 years. WTF!!! Putin must think these dudes are on drugs. They make the fetish people look like fucking geniuses.

    Reminds me of when Bill Clinton went nuclear with his multicultural training/programming by requiring the government AND corporations to implement or be left out of the contracts and or get their certificates pulled. Stealth communism. Set in motion the nightmare we have today.

    How is Baltimore doing?

  28. Anonymous says:

    • Anonymous says:

      The neocon bullshit is piling up so high you need wings to rise above it. Political correctness, feminism, NSA, anti-depressants, gay agenda, neocon driven media, destabilizing countries and killing thousands of innocent people for our “freedom”. People know deep down in their heart that most of their so called leaders are pedaling bullshit. In fact neocons = bullshit.

      The reason independent and free thinking peoples around the world admire Putin is because he is not afraid to call out the USSA’s neocon bullshit. In fact that is what makes him the neocons worst enemy. What do Obama, Hillary, McCain, Romney, and the fetish people all have in common.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Nice Apocalypse Now reference.

      • Capper says:

        Most non-Russian people who respect Putin do so simply because he represents a power which opposes the untied states and western culture in general.

        Putin represents a military power which is, along side the United States (and select allies), one of the most violent and expansionist in the modern world. If one opposes the United States because of its militarism then be consistent and oppose Putin as well.

      • Anonymous says:

        “Nice Apocalypse Now reference.”

        I’m impressed. Didn’t think anyone would catch that.

      • Anonymous says:

        They train young men to drop fire on people – but they can’t write f*ck on their airplane – because it’s obscene …

        I’d stop short of admiring Putin. If Pam Am 103 was enough to send an airstrike into Libya and target Gaddafi – Malaysia Airlines 17 and 80 dead children should have been reason enough to put a cruise missile into the Kremlin.

      • Anonymous says:

        . “If Pam Am 103 was enough to send an airstrike into Libya and target Gaddafi – Malaysia Airlines 17 and 80 dead children should have been reason enough to put a cruise missile into the Kremlin.”

        Thanks for the FOX news reference. You are throwing stuff out hoping it sticks. If you want to go there then lets……What date was the Pan Am 103? What date did they destabilize Libya?

        Last question, are you really that dumb? At least put together cohesive arguments.

      • Anonymous says:

        Nah! I’m indifferent to politics – I just skim over it at a 30,000 ft level.

      • Anonymous says:

        “Putin represents a military power which.. one of the most violent and expansionist in the modern world.”

        Dumb statement of the year. You have it backwards. Putin has protected thousands of people from the neocons ethnic cleansing. Stop with the FOX news bullshit.

        You want to hear about all the innocent people he has tried to protect? Obviously FOX news is not telling you about it.

      • Anonymous says:

        “Nah! I’m indifferent to politics – I just skim over it at a 30,000 ft level.”

        Got it.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Didn’t ask anyone’s permission… just thought it up and did it… what balls.

      • Anonymous says:

        … I do a fierce cossack dance with a Buk M1 missile up my ass.

      • Ripp says:

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bPXVGQnJm0w

        Love the smell of napalm in the morning…

  29. Just Saying says:

    “dick is abundant and low value”

    Only when the woman is low value. Why would a high value man lower himself. A high-value man can demand and get women of higher value – but a low value woman (i.e., a skank, or fattie, or uggo) can only get low-value men. So ladies, if you are getting “low value” men – look in a mirror… It is a direct reflection of your SMV… Plain and simple…

  30. Capper says:

    I can’t stand listening to any guys talk about their relationships, but most of them know not to in the first place.

  31. walawala says:

    Worth a second look. These stories about 30’s Hollywood starlets stand out because at a time when divorce was considered taboo, these tramps burned through 3-4 husbands without an ounce of shame.

    Joan Crawford’s life is a very good illustration of hypergamy and hitting a wall….hard

  32. Anonymous says:

    I think women love neocon nation. They love the feeling it gives them, all the bravado and bullshit along with sprinkles of pedestalizing.

  33. Robert What? says:

    Just a little adjustment for us older guys (late 50s). I wouldn’t be caught dead asking a guy “did you tap ‘dat?” But you are right, the last time I recall talking to a peer about his feelings about his relationship with his GF, wife, or SO must have been at least several decades ago.

  34. Robert What? says:

    On a related note, I have a nephew (late 20s) who has the makings of a decent Alpha but is totally clueless. He has no problems attracting, but loses GF after GF because he gets so needy. Even now he is all over his Facebook page about his “awesome girlfriend”. I’m thinking “dude, you just signed the death warrant for that relationship, too”. I’ve tried to drop some hints and some sites, like this one and ROK, but I don’t think he’s ever even clicked. Any ideas? I hate to see a guy with so much potential suffer so much even though by his own hand.

  35. Mr Bigglesworth says:

    “A girl screeching about “opening her legs for every man BUT YOU” is assuming a twisted, false pride in a domain normally and healthfully reserved for men which she knows, deep inside where the armor of her lies yields to the rumbling growl of her id, is a phony front serving no purpose other than blind rage at the retreating world of a good man’s sincere love leaving her behind”.

    ^^ This is excellent writing – perfectly described and brutally honest.

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