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Chicks dig aloof and indifferent jerks. It’s a stereotype for a reason. Our ancestors who had experience with women beyond typing furious white knight screeds on feminist blogs and collecting cheetos dust in their manboob cleavage have witnessed this adage in action so often that it’s long been accepted wisdom, passed down from grandfather to father to son. (Until the chain of realtalk was broken with the advent of equalism.)

This facet of female sexual nature is so plain as day that even indignant feminists and ignoramus tradcons have conceded some ground on the issue. As they have retreated in shame ahead of the advancing armies of the Chateau id-palers, they’ve been reduced to arguing “yeah, well, ok but so do men!” and babbling incoherent nonsense about men preferring “bitches”.

CH corrected their misunderstanding in as gentle a manner as befits this noble house, noting that, absent a few rare self-gelding exceptions to the rule, the desire to love and be loved by a jerk is a far stronger and frequently expressed impulse in women than the desire to love a bitch is in those few men who like to be pegged.

Or: If the “bitch” is hot, men will still want to fuck her, albeit with reservations concerning any long-term commitment potential. If the “bitch” is not hot, they won’t.

Women, as is their sex’s formerly inscrutable wont, are markedly different from men in this regard. The jerkboy attitude ITSELF is inherently attractive to women, and women even prefer to harness the commitment of jerks to the detriment of beta male supplicants.

But, why bother retelling the wisdom of the ancients and of the clear-eyed moderns to low born plebes when one can summon a mighty Shiv forged of Heartistian steel instead? A twist of the hilt and equalist ego guts spill out in technicolor anguish.

Men are sexually attracted to women who show an interest in them or who are responsive during a date, the study found. On the flip side, women are not sexually interested in the responsive men they meet for the first time, the research also discovered.

“We wanted to understand the reasons for these gender differences,” said the study’s lead researcher, Gurit Birnbaum, an associate professor of psychology at the Interdisciplinary Center (IDC) Herzliya in Israel. “What makes a responsive woman sexually attractive, and what makes a responsive man less sexually attractive?” […]

Men who perceive women to be interested in them rated the women as more feminine and sexually attractive. They also showed more interest in having long-term relationships with the responsive women than with the nonresponsive women.

Men dig non-bitchy, feminine women. Commence with the flabbergasting!

At the end of each experiment, the students rated their partners on scales such as responsiveness, attractiveness and masculinity or femininity.

Gender-based stereotypes may play a role in the men’s preference for responsive women, Birnbaum said. During a first date, people tend to rely on gender stereotypes for how they think a person should act. Men may find women more attractive if they fit the female stereotype of showing care and concern, she added.

Nope.

Or, men may think that responsive women are sexually interested in them. This may explain why men rate these “nice” women as more attractive and feminine, Birnbaum said.

Bingo. Also, I’d add that a nice, feminine woman signals to a man that she’ll be a faithful wife and nurturing mother to his children.

“I didn’t know until this [journal] article that men perceive responsive women not only as feminine, but also as sexually arousing,” Finkel told Live Science in an email. “I could have imagined a different set of results in which men found such women feminine, but then viewed them as dainty or less sexually desirable. Birnbaum and colleagues showed that the opposite is true.”

Yes, nicegirls aren’t just admirable or coveted for nonsexual reasons; they are also very arousing to men.

In contrast to the men, the women in the study did not rate the responsive men as more attractive or masculine than the nonresponsive men — a finding that surprised experts.

“Nonresponsive” = “jerk”.

The study did not reveal why women are not sexually interested in responsive men on the first date, but Birnbaum offered several ideas.

Women are typically more cautious daters than men are, and may be skeptical of a responsive man, Birnbaum said. Or, she added, women may think the men are trying too hard to win their affection and get them into bed.

Or, women may see responsive men as eager to please, or even desperate, Birnbaum said. Perhaps, the researchers noted, women may view a responsive man as vulnerable and less dominant.

Bingos all around!

“Regardless of the reasons, perhaps men should slow down, if their goal is to instill sexual desire,” Birnbaum said.

Or, be a challenge.

For Hivemind takes on the studies, see “Study finds that men like nice women, but not the other way around” and “Why playing hard to get only works for men.”

Mmmm. The Scalzied tears of a feminist clown.

So here we come to the close of yet another series of studies which vindicate CH teachings and game. I’d say my turgid vanity couldn’t handle any more old fashioneds, but no, my appetite for strokings is inexhaustible.

Lesson for women: The way to a man’s heart is straight and true.

Lesson for men: The way to a woman’s heart is oblique and discreet.

197 Responses to “Women Prefer Jerks And Men Prefer Nicegirls”

  1. […] Women Prefer Jerks And Men Prefer Nicegirls […]

    • desidaasi says:

      For me this has never been complicated. Here are my most important rules for being a good wife:
      Cook like a Chef
      Fuck like a Slut
      Respect him and treat him like a God
      Never ever nag him, yell at him or bad mouth him, period.
      Keep myself pretty and sexy for him

      Women cannot demand love from their man. They can however command it by being feminine, submissive, sexy and agreeable.

      • no says:

        …attention whore on the interwebs…haha I jest love…

      • VRW says:

        a gay canadian porn star killed his lover, ate him, cannibalized him, after he cannibalized him, he put it on video, eating him and cutting him up, as the man was in the throes of death, you could hear him screaming because he was bound of course, you could hear the victim screaming, which seemed to make the killer even hungrier, he ate his viscera and feasted on different organs…I mean this guy was a real jerk

      • Alex Jones SuperFan says:

        ^ Typical queer behavior.

        Anyways, I imagine that desidassi is more likely a redpilled male attempting to capitalize on the PUA demographic than an actual attention whore. I can understand the appeal.

        >tfw not a BASED and REDPILLED Swami with direct knowledge of The Absolute obtained via sex tantra
        >tfw no hawt BASED and REDPILLED Traditionalist Hindu wife to perform sex tantra with

    • Who we will fuck is one thing, but only a fool would marry a not-nice girl. Your life would be hell.

  2. ho says:

    Bicthes can be fun to hate fuck, IYKWIM.

    • CH says:

      And women lovefuck jerks.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Okay, that’s a weird thought. Maybe the ladies at the Chateau could chime in here – what’s it like the next morning after having been on the receiving end of a hate fuck? Do you feel disgusted with yourself?

      • Shane, you’re asking women for accurate introspection coupled with honest disclosure.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        LOL’ed. But can you imagine it from the chick’s perspective: “I got hate-fucked in my rectum last night, and he pulled my hair and he even left bruise marks on my throat from choking me!”

      • Zombie Shane says:

        “And now he won’t answer my repeated phone calls and I have to wear a turtleneck to work and I am having trouble holding in my bowel movements! Yippee!! Me Go Girl!!!”

      • Zombie Shane says:

        When I was a kid, there was a quaint old-fashioned notion called “Post Coital Depression”.

      • … what’s it like the next morning after having been on the receiving end of a hate fuck? Do you feel disgusted with yourself?…

        Most women are probably a little bit disgusted with themselves… yet still intensely horny for that guy…and dream of “taming” him and making him fall in love with them…exactly as in the book “Fifty shades of Grey” which has sold well over one hundred million copies.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      > “fun to hate fuck”

      Would this phenomenon even have existed 55 or 60 years ago, before the advent of chemical abortifacients and mechanical abortions? A man would have had to pause and think long and hard about what he might be getting himself into with a hate fuck.

      • A Random Guy says:

        Then again, 55-60 years ago, there was no child support industry, so if a woman got herself knocked up, too bad for her…

      • Zombie Shane says:

        So maybe that’s why they needed infanticide when Imperial Rome was going to hell in a handbasket – there was so much hate-fucking going on that nine months later you were seeing the births of the “hate child” [instead of the “love child”] and so the poor kids were abandoned to the wolves?

      • Zombie Shane says:

        It would certainly give a huge demographic advantage to a group like the early Christians, who loved their children rather than hating them.

      • gunslingergregi says:

        world war two dudes were paying child support

      • A Random Guy says:

        Yeah, but it wasn’t a federalized racket like it is now. It’s a recent phenomenon that a guy who knocked up some chick couldn’t just ‘go elsewhere’ to get away from her…

  3. Kate says:

    Balderdash. Men do not like nice girls. They are just as tempted by flash and dazzle as women are. Until men choose and reward nice girls with marriage, nice girls will continue to go extinct.

    [CH: flash and dazzle are not the opposite of nice. not nice is the opposite of nice.]

    • ho says:

      Men DO choose and reward nice girls, just not as often as you would like and it’s usually betas who do it, i.e. nobody for vaginahavers.

      Also, divorce rape etc.

      [CH: ugly nicegirls don’t get rewarded. but then the problem isn’t their niceness.]

      • ho says:

        All else equal, naturally.

        I think she’s talking about higher betas/alphas, refusing to comit to solid marriage material women. Decent looking, but player isn’t interested for the long haul, because who needs that shit these days.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        A truly nice girl isn’t going to divorce rape you. Your biggest problem is that you won’t discover that she was faking the nice girl routine until you get served with the divorce rape papers.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        1) Unless she’s a nice girl and you deserve to get divorce raped.

        2) On the fakery of nice-girl-ism: Learn to sniff out the very faintest whiffs of Darkness in her heart. And if your instincts say, “Run Forrest Run!”, then run.

    • eofahapi says:

      Kate, I think SOME men are like that. I know many men who are crazy for women who are a little bit of.. bitchy. I remember you said something before about men do not like nice girls and I noticed that in some men, yes.

      I think the dynamic in relationship/marriage when the woman is not nice to the man is a little bit like the man constantly trying to conquer the woman. Maybe he has low self esteem, and maybe each time he makes her “nice” it helps his self esteem and sense of masculinity.

      But I think a lot of healthy men, like men in Church, and my god brother want kind women. Maybe because they are comfortable in their role as man. I asked my god brother if he likes women who look mean or moody, and he said they are “interesting” but he would not marry one.

      Maybe it is a cultural difference.Women there maybe are not expected to be nice, so men’s preferences adjusted accordingly?

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Men do not like nice girls.

      The hell we don’t…

      You’re mistaking the hooting and hollering at the titty bar for men with marriage in mind.

      So go back to being nice, boopsie.

    • Scray says:

      Nice girls get rewarded all the time. There just are many less nice girls than there used to be. I’d say being nice and feminine vs ‘mannish,’ is worth about 2 points; in an ideal world you choose the nice and feminine 9…but most men would take the 7 who behaves like a woman as a girlfriend over any 9’s ‘I’m so fancy’ histrionics.

      [CH: do you know what kind of girl has to beat off the quality men with a stick? a nice, caring, nurturing, feminine girl who looks like monica belucci in her prime.]

      • A Random Guy says:

        For a moment, I thought you said ‘like Monica Lewinski’ 🙂

      • gunslingergregi says:

        nice can be relative though
        my girl was kicking her husband in head in car before screaming at him
        used to have screaming matches with mom I guess
        around me she is an angel and so is everyone else
        one man can make a difference on a whole group of people

      • nomad says:

        Monica Belucci…YES.
        She’s pushing 50 now. Would still bang.

      • Papa Boner says:

        If she’s beating men off with a stick, she’s doing it wrong.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Man, if I had been the Merovingian, and if I had found out that Neo had been messing around with my wife, then I would have been all “You little red-pill swallowing mother-fucker, I am going to hunt you down and pluck out your eyeballs and skull-fuck your brains!!!”

      • blindman says:

        “If she’s beating men off with a stick, she’s doing it wrong”

        Huh?

    • holisticgame says:

      Men want kind, feminine, empathetic, compassionate ATTRACTIVE girls. Generally if there’s a little bit of a fun streak (i.e. she can give as well as she can take with teasing/flirting) it’s icing on the cake. We don’t want bitchy, we want fun, intelligent, and feminine.

    • Holden Caulfield says:

      Gas Buttox to the courtesy phone. Kate is awaiting your instructions.

  4. Amy says:

    But of course you know there’s a whole body of “literature” out there (some of it written by men) explaining that men like a “challenge” and they won’t value a girl too easily won over. Just sayin’.

    [CH: no there isn’t. not any “literature” worth the internet hovel it’s printed in, at any rate. and if you keep riding this lie you love you will banned forever from here. last warning.

    ps holding out for sex and not appearing too slutty are not the same thing as being a nonresponsive unfeminine bitch. but you knew that already.]

    • But of course you know there’s a whole body of “literature” out there (some of it written by men) explaining that men like a “challenge” and they won’t value a girl too easily won over. Just sayin’.

      Fuck, what’s the point of teaching women to read if they read whatever the fuck they want the words to say instead of what’s actually there? We should just give you all blank books and you can make up the story however you want it to go. It’s basically what you do anyways.

      Man writes: Guys will look at girls wearing low cut tops
      Girl reads: RAPE SHOULD BE LEGAL!

      Whorefinder also happens to read that but he’s an outlier

    • cryo says:

      All attractive women are a challenge by virtue of having many options in the dating market. I’m not sure what your point is.

    • 3 hole punch says:

      men like a challenge in everything except a woman. real men assume the battle to win a real woman is over before he approaches as the real war is and always has been within himself.

      discounting rape play, nothing ruins my hardon like a fight.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Amy, you mistake “challenge” for “bitchiness”…

      A girl “too easily won over” usually means “slut” (“won over” being a somewhat disingenuous euphemism, since I believe we’re not talking about merely being attracted and agreeing to a date)…

      And men will not marry sluts… at least not knowingly… and not men with options.

      So, yeah, quality men like quality women, and quality women don’t put out for a song and a dance.

      Sheesh, let’s not be dim here.

    • eofahapi says:

      Amy, many of the great romances of literature are about men falling in love with feminine women. The paradox of women being that they may seem weak, (we are less physically strong.)but are fiercely loving and strong in love, and our strength is in our love, kindness and nurturing.

      To be a challenge does not mean one is not a nice woman, it is a natural part of selecting a mate. For example, women “fitness” test the man first, yes, different women to different extent. And a man demonstrates his worth. I would not say this is not “nice”, because it is part of nature. 🙂 .

      • eofahapi says:

        However, I would say that challenge should not be a “conscious” thing. I think that is where many of the modern dateing books go wrong. Because it is already natural for a woman to be selective about her spouse.

    • corvinus says:

      But of course you know there’s a whole body of “literature” out there (some of it written by men) explaining that men like a “challenge” and they won’t value a girl too easily won over. Just sayin’.

      How well have the broads who wrote The Rules done in the dating market? Not very well.

      Men may value a “challenge”, but only if the woman is hot. If the woman is not, and tries to be a challenge, the man won’t even notice.

      Men don’t value nice girls, but only if they’re plain janes. If she’s hot and nice, the men tend to get too eager too quickly.

    • Amy,

      Which one are you on the photo?

    • The Burninator says:

      There’s also a “whole body of literature”, and cultural influence, some of it even perpetrated by women, saying that women prefer nice guys over jerks.

      So much for “whole body of literature”.

  5. That was one fucking disturbing episode of South Park.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      Huh? Greatest South Park Evah! This, on the other hand, was when South Park jumpito’ed el sharko:

  6. The Spirit Within says:

    I used to like “challenging” women, but the novelty has worn off. I’ve changed my tune.

    Nice and feminine, for the win.

    • Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh says:

      “Challenging” is just a euphemism for ball-busting bitch.

    • Mistral says:

      Nice and feminine, for the win.
      ========================

      This cannot be repeated enough. If a woman is nice and feminine and not a bitch, if she’s alone, she either (1) wants to be, or (2) is fugly, and in most cases where she says its #1, it’s really #2.

      À bientôt,

      Mistral

  7. H says:

    So did all this nonsense about equality reverse our roles? Because guys like nice girls, they mistakenly presume (and because they are told by society) girls like nice guys and act accordingly. Likewise women think guys like the same things they do and try to be dominant and aggressive women.

    Literally the mainstream (read Cathedral, feminists, liberals, neocons) sexual strategy is to attract your own sex and repel the opposite. No wonder there are so many gay people today.

    [CH: the human flaw of psychological projection has a lot to do with the confusion that reigns in the sexual market.]

      • K says:

        agreed, +1.
        i think standing up for your beliefs = ‘being a jerk’, and this is why it is attractive to women. a ‘jerk’ is just a modern name for a strong man.
        a nice man who will do anything for a woman would probably stab his best friend in the back, and run in fear from his enemies.
        good post.

      • gunslingergregi says:

        yea I guarded a spot for a group of people from literally a 100k interlopers
        and the spot was there when the group I was holding it for came
        but then I left and the people around shit all over em cause they were like its ok no big deal
        fuck that guard the perimeter

      • VRW says:

        one thing I have learned at Citizen Renegade is that there is a very low bar for what is considered a ‘jerk’ these days. people are very sensitive. today’s jerk is yesteryear’s nice guy

    • no says:

      Also take into account something CH has mentioned before that sociopaths have low anxiety when they knowingly break laws/rules. Set your own path to be your own man and this all falls into place.

  8. bluntobj says:

    This is also why I never have a philosophical, political, or other theory based discussion with a woman. I’m not looking to debate or have some kind of verbal struggle with them, especially if I’m sleeping with them. If I want competition of any kind, I’ll go have that conversation with my peers (read: other men).

    Hence why I like a feminine woman that is pleasant, polite, and attentive. Just as !!SCIENCE!! predicts.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      “Nice Girl” == FEMININE

      “Bad Boy” == MASCULINE

      That’s science for you, as translated into Standard English.

      • DoucheBag DeLuxe says:

        I need some help regarding white buns and white ovens. I suppose we can agree on the fact that considering the current state of affairs white, cute and nice is not enough. Any man worth his grain of salt should optimize eugenic probabilities by baking in a smart oven. Smart people have smart kids, even when considering regression to the mean.

        So what type of smart woman am I looking at? PHD, MSc, … lawyers, doctors, … I mean I’d love to put it in a sweet little nurse but when it comes to brains they are not the sharpest.

      • corvinus says:

        Try nurse practitioners. They have to fill in for doctors much of the time nowadays.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        DoucheBag DeLuxe, years and years ago, I was where you are, valueing IQ uber alles. But now my first and foremost demand is a kind warm gentle loving heart. Only when I am convinced that the spirituality is there do I then start worrying about smarts.

    • Glengarry says:

      The most pointless form of this is when they want to argue about something and you actually do it seriously and you win. No pussy for you, beta. (Getting into these sorts of “rational” discussions is really a typical beta tell.)

      The best approach is to treat it as a shit test. Having a rationalistic argument is not the right approach, making her feel what you want her to feel is the goal. But if it over time basically shows she’s seriously into picking pointless fights, well, that’s good to know too. If you’re not into the same, prepare to exit at your own pace. If you need a slogan, tell her you think you’re not compatible. It might then even feel liberating to have an argument or two where you don’t need to hold back.

      • Glengarry says:

        PS. Arguing to win with a woman in a non-professional setting (i.e., no presence of white knights) can even be a bit amusing, once you realize you no longer need to obey any male rules of being reasonable or making sense. Scoff at her lack of logic, then indirectly attack the way she looks or dresses (“people who pay money for ripped jeans are truly stupid, oh I’m sorry, I didn’t mean you of course”), then go back to citing sources and disqualifying her arguments in an annoyingly superior male way. If she seems to be winning, god forfend, just change the subject and make a personal attack. If she gets emotional, attack that or solicitously/sneeringly ask if she needs a few minutes to collect herself. If she starts recruiting WK followers, point out she’s just angry because she’s losing an argument and steer the WKs into pure masculine logical argument. Act injured to the WK audience when she doesn’t obey the rules. Or why not introduce a bit of drama if you need to, just make up some lie that’s too good to be true and say it should be obvious you were joking if called on it. You can really employ whatever tactics you like to crush her spirits and send her off reeling.

        She may then of course try to paint you as a bully behind your back. Tell them she attacked your position on X out of the blue, that you won the subsequent discussion, and that she’s just being a sore loser (or worse). Yes, it’s sad really and she should get help. Et cetera.

        It is again, if you will, akin to handling a shit test. You’re in this case steering her emotions into something that will cause her to blow up and run away.

  9. Nepal says:

    A lot of the men who claim they like ‘bitchy’ women actually prefer a trait of females that can be construed as ‘bitchy.’ Namely – pickiness. In other words, guys prefer chicks who don’t spread for just any dude.

    A picky girl doesn’t equate to a bitch – but it’s an easy descriptor to (mis)use.

  10. JohnDSee says:

    I discuss this with my best friend all the time. We realized our best success with chics always comes when we are attracted to a chic but DIStracted by our hobbies or other interests. Accidental aloofness. Drives the chic nuts. Unless she’s not intrigued by you already, in which case you have a little work to do. I understand that one won’t find themselves in a best case scenario all the time. Situational awareness is key.

  11. corvinus says:

    1) Girl becomes interested in man
    2) Girl gets man’s attention
    3) Girl has encounter with man
    4) Man starts orbiting
    5) Girl starts losing interest
    6) Girl’s disinterest bores man and he stops orbiting
    7) Girl regains interest
    8) Go back to 3, with successive encounters becoming more and more intimate

    Basically, a sine wave with increasing amplitude over time. Or, putting it another way, the woman is the cosine and the man the sine.

  12. orlynao says:

    I think people are confused on men liking bitchiness for two reasons:

    1) They don’t understand the difference between bitchy, sassy, and saucy.

    2) And they see the guys who put up with ill-tempered women because they look halfway decent.

    • Mistral says:

      Indeed. So many people mistake sarcasm counts as witty repartee. It does not. The constant negativity is so tiring, when a simply playful exchange would be like manna from heaven.

      To wit, I was chatting up a HP9.5 (or whatever. She was hot like “inside of the sun” hot. And not a tiresome bitch. Why? She was foreign, of course. Du-uh.) So, she is self-aware about her hawtness, but not arrogant. I drop a neg on her about she’s perfect…except for her crazy eyebrows and she leans in and says, “My eyebrows are the most perfect part of my body!” I genuinely chuckled. 😉

      À bientôt,

      Mistral

  13. jr says:

    I guess not kissing the girl at the end of the date would be a responsive gesture on the part of the guy because he is anticipating her negative reaction to a bold move by him, rather than assuming the sale.

    A spergy question and I’m sure there is no contradiction between ABE (or making your sexual intentions known) and being overly responsive.

  14. The female reception of this piece, even here at CH, has been incredibly elementary.

    I imagine the beta man-boob response is no different.

    Reminds me of a funny story, actually.

    Recently I was on Facebook (I know I shouldn’t have one, but Tinder) and a girl friend of mine asked via status update whether she should get a pixie cut or grow her hair out.

    I told her, “pixie cut and I’m personally kicking your ass.”

    To which her feminist friends and a former friend of mine turned hardcore cultural Marxist manboob replied, “omg Reservoir Tip’s opinion is stupid. Why are you even concerned about societal standards of beauty?” (LOL)

    Then the manboob, who I assume is somewhat into the girl, posts something for the beta hall of fame.

    “I wrote you a java script to help you figure out which style is going to work best for you” and of course, he posts the script.

    As if she has any idea what the hell to do with it. Neutered man-booby goonery at its finest. I could practically feel his anticipation for her thanks and whatever attention she would afford him.

    “Oh I know how to win her over! I’ll write her some java script! That’ll get her attention!”

    “I’LL WRITE HER SOME JAVA SCRIPT!”

    “JAVA SCRIPT”

  15. Ollie says:

    Off topic, but if this guy (and his wife/gf) were American, the plank of wood would be a huge tub o’ lard:

    • AKA says:

      holy shit. That commercial just insulted 99% of the women over there in Asia. Outstanding.

      • Buns n Buns says:

        East Asia, mebbe,,, The rest of that bigass continent has womyn with some of the juiciest boobies on the planet.

  16. ragman says:

    What do men want? A woman that’s reasonably attractive and fun to be with. I’m pushing 70 yrs old and that basic tenet hasn’t changed. What is reasonably attractive? Not a beauty queen but not someone you are ashamed to be with in public. And this works both ways.

  17. Emma the Emo says:

    Being a nice girl really pays 🙂

    Although I did notice that some guys fall for girls with BPD, bipolar disorder and similar things. Then they say they had the best sex ever with these crazy girls, although they also made their life hell. And they seem to want to save these girls from themselves. Luckily, a lot of men don’t have this codependent disorder or whatever it is.

    • Anonymous says:

      They are men with no options. There is no competition between a BPD and a nice girl.

  18. ballocaust says:

    or: men want women that are demure, women prefer men who would never dream of deferring

  19. Anonymous says:

    OT:

    Lady friend is taking a bartending job once a week at a real shithole….not sure sure how to proceed. Dump before I get shit on? Shame cause she’s pretty cool, but we all know the scene….

    • Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh says:

      Keep fucking her and use her as a pivot to shamelessly game the female bartenders.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      YOU: Baby, I don’t want you working in that dive bar shit hole with all those thugs.

      SHE: Oh really? Well are you going to support then, Mr Deep Pockets?

      YOU: Uh, uhh, uhhh…

      • Zombie Shane says:

        = “to support ME then”

        Point being that there comes a time when you have to decide whether to up the ante, and force a win, or to push back from the table, walk away, and call it quits.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Can you see her being the mother of your children?

        Can you see yourself, twenty years from now, sitting alone at a bar, sipping on a scotch, and you’re all depressed and dejected and miserable, and you’re reminiscing wistfully on her as The One who got away?

  20. obbop says:

    Dames are weird. They are also easily brainwashed. That is why so much advertising is aimed at dames. Dames operate at an emotional level and seldom apply logical or rational thinking to their lives. Dames are good for the fun their bodies offer and they do have a vital role in species continuation but they have many limitations in regards to other life aspects.

  21. two and two says:

    Such a bogus study. There is no way women like jerks. I can say that from my experience they indeed do LOVE nice guys who act in a good manner. Guys who can show their affection and care, respect and express their feelings properly.
    My wife and I we always talk about this, and we always say what we feel, I’m actually very glad she made me feel very safe by saying she would like to know more about what I feel and now I’m not afraid to talk about personal stuff with her. (another reason why women like good guys).
    So I just think everyone should just talk with their gal about their affection and actually express themselves.

    • JohnDSee says:

      Troll? No options? Only been with one woman? Something odd about you. If you like discussing feelings with your wife, good for you. I will continue to live in reality.

      • two and two says:

        I think its all about love and what you make out of it. We were together for a long time now and now I know for sure we can overcome anything through conversation. This is why this study cannot be considered meaningful in any way because people never actually cared for each other.

    • Nepal says:

      How long have you two been together?

    • Anonymous says:

      yer wifes suckin off the mailman while you work. go suck down some more blue pills faggot

      • two and two says:

        I’m sorry but I don’t think you realize how deep of a connection we have together. Its weird, but sometimes we can even guess what we think. Although I don’t blame you, you are probably a good guy who just never had anyone to care for. Be nice to women and they will do the same to you.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Oh, this guy’s good.

        (((golf clap)))

    • Tilikum says:

      ESL candidate #1 for July 28th.

    • Some women do but they low quality trash.

    • Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh says:

      The exception does not make the rule.

    • Anonymous says:

      ROTFLMAO

      so funny

      u 4 reel?

      Ha hahahaha haaaa.

      So, soo delicious …

    • no says:

      Never tell your woman shit about you…fucking wuss-bag..

      • two and two says:

        Well I understand that it might not always be comfortable, especially if you have a lot to hide, but as they say you can’t make an omlette without breaking eggs, right? You are the man so take responsibility and start expressing yourself.

    • OSP says:

      See guys?
      JavaScript game really does work

      • The Burninator says:

        We should set up a “Learn JavaScript Game In 21 Days” book publishing deal. The first program they learn is “Hello Baby!”.

  22. Heir says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2708357/Forget-foreplay-The-MIND-key-female-orgasm.html

    What do you think this translates to in hard talk?

    Women can’t orgasm (or truly enjoy sex) with most men due to lack of socio-psychological fulfilment and (thus) perceived low status of her partner.

    • Look into “deep conversion”. You’ll be happy you did.

      • Heir says:

        Just had a look, it’s not something I haven’t noticed before but that’s a nice name for the concept.
        It is one of the most beautiful things of the human experience.
        Unfortunately, I would say that most of the time it happens with psychopaths who love the idea of a psychic control over their prey.

      • Tilikum says:

        “Unfortunately, I would say that most of the time it happens with psychopaths who love the idea of a psychic control over their prey.”

        as opposed to…….getting your ass handed to you by a TASK (typical American Skeez)?

        fyi, every female you meet is 20 times more psychopathic then you can even comprehend. stop saying it like its a bad thing.

      • Buns n Buns says:

        Searched for it.. Krauser seems to have developed pangs of conscience over it… Any other credible links that we can look up?

  23. thrust says:

    call her your barmaid.

    my ex/fb/gf/bucket o’ cum was one at the club i bounce and at and a high end chain steakhouse.

    she’s out of the klub though eating hrs at the chain.

    do not ask her about work – keep dominant – do not let up.

    like swag said, if you make appearances, flirt with her co-workers.

    this is a test you now have to view her true colours.

  24. Tilikum says:

    gotta date mormon girls….

    trust me….

  25. no says:

    Been reading Swinggcat’s ebook on Prizing. This goes along with the idea that you have to set the frame early on and throughout your entire relationship that you are the Prize–that she is chasing you; not that you are chasing her.

  26. Tilikum says:

    most guys assume (wrongly and via projecting their male experience) that bitchy equals smart because nice guys are normally pretty stupid where assholes are generally smarter (and act accordingly….because they can).

    same shit different set of behaviors i suppose?!

    • Zombie Shane says:

      > “assholes are generally smarter (and act accordingly….because they can)”

      Talmudikim, don’t project your jewishness on all of us goyische-kopf shegetzen.

      • no says:

        Studies have been done on this. Introverts are “smarter” but I think he means that jerks have more social intelligence.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Love That Shane! He can sniff out the foetor judaicus a league off.

      • Tilikum says:

        not Jewwy at all but I am curious…..is that a bad thing? does anybody really care anymore? Jews breaking into your house or stealing your car stereos are they? cause in my hood it’s nogs and messicans.

        what kind of jews do you have in your neighborhood worse than that lol

        i’m always curious about folks with your certain phobias.

    • Players are not real assholes in that sense. They actually have very low self worth and use sluts to fill that void.

      [CH: everything you’re claiming is utter horseshit. and i have the studies to prove it to you. so why are you here? did a player steal the love of your life?]

      • Tilikum says:

        i’m sure CH will be along shortly to unfuck you but I will at least say that a high value guy (your player) is banging high value girls after about a year of figuring out what works 😉

        few sluts…thats the wage of a higher beta or very low alphas (heavy tatts, extra-muscular) 🙂

        (and Zombie wept)

      • CH says:

        This stark character is a loser. i have no idea why he’s littering the boards here.

      • High value girls are disgusted by promiscuity.

        [CH: wishful thinking is no way to go through life son.]

      • kant says:

        Beta wishful thinking. Real alphas (and all men really) deeply desire sexual variety. The alphas are generally the ones who can go out and get it.

      • Sentient says:

        Stark – high value women think they are disgusted by promiscuity, until they meet a high value guy who blows their mind… then they have sex on the first date. You are just not that guy yet. stay and learn, there is hope for you, if you have a ball sack still.

  27. no says:

    “Mother”
    By Pink Floyd

    Mother do you think they’ll drop the bomb
    Mother do you think they’ll like the song
    Mother do you think they’ll try to break my balls
    Ooooh aah, Mother should I build a wall
    Mother should I run for president
    Mother should I trust the government
    Mother will they put me in the firing line
    Ooooh aah, is it just a waste of time
    Hush now baby, baby don’t you cry
    Mama’s gonna make all of your
    Nightmares come true
    Mama’s gonna put all of her fears into you
    Mama’s gonna keep you right here
    Under her wing
    she won’t let you fly but she might let you sing
    Mama will keep baby cosy and warm
    Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe
    Of course Mama’s gonna help build the wall

    Mother do think she’s good enough for me
    Mother do think she’s dangerous to me
    Mother will she tear your little boy apart
    Oooh aah, mother will she break my heart
    Hush now baby, baby don’t you cry
    Mama’s gonna check out all your girl friends for you
    Mama won’t let anyone dirty get through
    Mama’s gonna wait up till you get in
    Mama will always find out where
    You’ve been
    Mamma’s gonna keep baby healthy and clean
    Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe
    You’ll always be a baby to me
    Mother, did it need to be so high.

  28. Capt. Queeg says:

    Your interpretation of scientific data leaves a ton to be desired.

    [CH: Allow me to translate Mrs. Queef’s bitch:

    “These study results as passed along by CH really rub my chafed labia raw.”]

  29. Laguna Beach Fogey says:

    I wonder how many billions have dollars have been spent over the years proving such fundamental truths about men and women.

  30. Eliezer Ben-Yehuda says:

    newsflash: Jesse Jackson announces his next extortion/shakedown target:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/07/28/jesse-jackson-seeks-eeoc-scrutiny-of-tech-industry/13270991/

    PS: i do not take it as a given that Democrat politicians will act in lockstep to help out Jesse here at the expense of donors in Silicon Valley. After all, a Redpill law applies: They don’t desperately need the (oh maybe it’s) 5% of the electorate he controls.

    Whereas, he has no real options outside of the Cathedral Democrat tent

  31. Rum says:

    Most of the worthwhile women now alive are green-eyed Kurdish semi-virgins. Guys, I am too lazy to make this stuff up.
    Kurdistan is the most prosperous and stable place on Earth… and the least diverse; discuss.

  32. wolfie65 says:

    Women love hot guys. Who can afford to be jerks.
    Men love hot girls. Who can afford to be bitches.
    Dee end.

    [CH: no. you’re wrong. here’s dee end:
    women love jerks.
    men love hotties.
    hope this helps.]

    • kant says:

      Men love hotties. Women love high value males, who are often jerks because they can afford to be.

      I think if a man is really high value he might actually lose points for being a jerk — shows a lack of social grace, since he is so indisputably dominant already.

  33. CANCEL THE SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM,

    BECAUSE LOUSY IS RELATIVE!
    BECAUSE MORAL INVERSION IS STILL MORALITY!!
    BECAUSE THE POLITICS OF SCHOOL LUNCHES TEND TO EXACSERBATE HISTORICAL GRIEVANCES
    BECAUSE THE ELITE MAY HAVE TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THOSE PEOPLE ONE DAY.
    BECAUSE WE AGREE THAT SOCIETY SHOULD MAKE EFFORTS TO “FILL EVERY SIPPY” THE ISSUE IS WHO IS SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR WHOSE “SIPPY CUP” AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCE.
    BECAUSE WOMEN WILL STILL BE ALLOWED TO USE MORAL BLACKMAIL.
    BECAUSE I CAN MAKE A FORTUNE SELLING CHEAPER LUNCHES TO PARENTS IN THE FREE MARKET.
    BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT SEVERAL LOST GENERATIONS ANYWAYS!
    BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE OBESE RELATIVELY SPEAKING.
    BECAUSE MY KIDS ARE OUT OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM AND I PAID ENOUGH ALREADY.
    BECAUSE GOVERNMENT HELP NEVER SEEMS TO GET TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
    BECAUSE BAD INCENTIVES TEND TO GENERATE BAD BEHAVIOR AND THAT GOES FROM THE TOP ON DOWN.
    BECAUSE SOCIAL DEMOCRACY IS A SOCIAL ORGANISM THAT REPRESENTS A BADLY KEPT ZOO THAT IS RUN BY PEOPLE WHO RE-WRITE ITS OWN DEFAULTED MORTGAGE.
    BECAUSE THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT HAS TAKEN UPON ITSELF THE RIGHT TO DESTROY THE “BARRIERS” THAT HAD EXISTED BEFORE “PRIVATE PROPERTY”, “LIBERTY OF CONTRACT” AND “FREEDOM OF ASSOCATION” WHILE ERECTING NEW BARRIERS: “DISPARATE IMPACT”, “STUDENT LOAN DEBT” AND “INTERGENERATIONAL SOCIAL DEBT PONZI SCHEME OVERHANG”.
    BECAUSE WHAT QUALIFIES AS A SOCIAL PROBLEM IS LARGELY A MATTER OF TASTE
    BECAUSE SOME OF THE CHILDREN WILL GROW UP TO HATE THEIR PARENTS NO MATTER WHAT SOCIETY DOES FOR THEM.
    YES CANCEL THE SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM FOR THE CHILDREN OF COURSE!
    YES CANCEL THE SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM FOR THE CHILDREN FOREVER!

  34. Mistral says:

    [Reverend Jackson]

    “If men are jerks….it’s ’cause it works!”

    [/Reverend Jackson]

    À bientôt,

    Mistral

  35. Hunter says:

    Weekend FR–

    Lots of insight from the weekend. Doing much better 🙂 Still FAR from where I want to be, but getting there.

    Friday:

    We head out to the first club of the night and I’m stifled again. My wings are already in set with girls. I’m just like shit, shit, shit, shit, shit. I could easily join the group GingerWing is in (six chicks), but I keep thinking I’ll ruin it for him with my early game weirdness. So I decide to wander for a bit… approach one older lady, she’s weirded out… I’m like, yay first approach… then I tell Ya’s story to this drunk dude… it goes okay.

    I keep talking to him about approaching girls, I end up not doing it. I stay and chat with this dude. Then I decide to get one of these other dudes to help me approach. I approach second set, goes nowhere. I approach girl dancing in another group, it goes nowhere. We finally leave and we head to another club.

    Nothing’s really opening for me. The AlphaWing says something that ultimately changes the way I view the entire night:

    ‘You need to give the girls something to be attracted to. It’s not like saying “you’re cute, etc.” is bad, it’s just not good either. It’s neutral. There’s no charge to it. If you’re trying to not step on anyone’s tows, you’re playing the part of the female. You need to get her to react to you. You are the Yin and she is the Yang. A woman follows, a man leads.”

    I open two set with of chicks:

    Me: Let’s dance (me moving to grab her hands).
    HB8: Um nah, I don’t dance.
    Me: It’s fine, I’ll teach you.
    Guy tries to hit on her while this happens. They ignore him. I give them knowing looks.
    Me: Weird hey?
    The look at me as if waiting for me to say something else. Then I think “oh shit, they want to hear me talk?” and then I lose the set/eject.

    AlphaWing then tells me to go into mixed sets. I go in half-hearted at first, but then over time I’m grabbing girls from dudes. It’s going really well:

    Me: Hey, what’s up.
    HB6: Hey (I cut through the guys as she says this)
    Me: You’re Indian.
    HB6: (Shakes head)
    Me: Pakistani
    HB6: Gasp (high fives me)
    Me: I don’t wanna get too close tho you might blow me up.
    HB6: Jaw drops (lols) What’s your name?
    Me: Hunter. And now we dance!
    I carry her Tyler style.
    Indian guy tries and stops me
    Me: Don’t worry, we’re just friends.
    (I let her go and decide I’ll come back to her).

    I approach this other girl and she’s into me. Cold reads, stuff like that…

    While writing this I realize these girls might have been drunk. Maybe not wasted, but definitely seemed a little too receptive. Almost pull Pakistani girl on the reapproach but she gives me shit test as we walk out.

    HB6: How old are you?
    Me: 23
    HB6: … You’re WAY TOO YOUNG. Wayyyyy too young. (walks away)
    Me: Wait!

    Ughh, so yeah, should’ve flipped the script (eww, how old are you?)

    There’s no deep connection in any of these sets. AlphaWing approaches another girl… she hooks. Blah, nothing else new there. Mexican girl 3-set. AlphaWing starts hitting on one, AsianWing (other dude/Julien RSD clone) hits on the other, last girl sees the other two getting hit on and comes up to me and starts hitting on me.

    No deep rapport in any of these. How do you transition to deep rapport??? I’m thinking it must be DHVing and then going into a deep rapport question.

    Saturday:

    I approach first set London HB6.5. Says she’s hungover, wants to get coffee. I do some attraction shit by calling her racist and then pull her to Starbucks. This turns out to be a instadate. Convo gets boring, I’m thinking I’m doing comfort but the convo doesn’t seem interesting until I ask her whether she would have a cucumber or a football up her butthole. She lols and says cucumber. I say, you like that huh? More small talk.

    Basically this is her last day in town, ended up inviting her out. Spent whole night out with her. She didn’t reciprocate any touching. I tried touching her several times. Refused everytime. Honestly, I didn’t really steer the convo into a sexual place. That was what I realized after she took a cab home at the end of the night. First I just thought she was boring, but really I think it was the fact that she made a sexual joke and acted like I was uncomfortable with it. I then resumed the boring comfort convo thinking I was getting into deep rapport. Spent 3 hours with her talking… jeez. She also lived three blocks away from the clubs. I’m guessing YaReally would say that I should’ve led the convo in a sexual direction.

    Funnily enough I did it with this other girl from Daygame who had a bf. She gave me the wrong number (honestly a shame, SO would’ve banged her), but anyway, here’s the convo.

    This conversation was probably the best of the weekend because this girl had a boyfriend, was not interested (was walking away) and then did not leave and was actually interested in me.

    (This is right after convo with LondonHB6):

    Me: Hey, are you racist?
    HB7: What?
    Me: Just kidding. Thought I’d stop you.
    HB7: Oh okay.
    Me: You have this nerdish face.
    HB7: Oh really?
    Me: Yeah, you cosplay?
    HB7: What’s that?
    Me: It’s when you dress up as anime characters. I’m too nerdy for you.
    HB7: Oh okay lol
    Me: Are you a Democrat?
    HB7: Why do you say that?
    Me: Doesn’t matter I’m a conservative. I don’t believe in giving girls rights. I’d put you in a cellar and only pass you food underneath the bars.
    HB7: Lol and I’d just grasp at the tray trying to get at it.
    She was laughing a lot so she stayed.
    Me: We should get coffee sometime.
    HB7: I have a boyfriend.
    Me: So, I have a girlfriend.
    HB7: Lol
    Me: What you got there (pointing to her bag)?
    HB7: A bra from Victoria Secret.
    Me: You’re not going to tell me how big they are?
    HB7: Lol no
    Me: I’ll tell you how big I am (I look down)… 10, 11 inches.
    HB7: lol
    Me: I’m talking about my shoes. You thought I would tell you my dick size? Nope lol
    HB7: lol
    Me: Don’t worry, it’s big.
    HB7: (she’s like staring into my eyes now) Where are you from?
    Small talk from here. She does marketing. Blah. Wasted a perfectly good opportunity to do deep rapport here JEEEZ WHY DO I KEEP FORGETTING
    Me: (so I run out of stuff to say… lol) Let’s get coffee right now (I grab her hand)
    HB7: Wait no, they’re having a sale on X and today’s the last day.
    Me: Alright fine. Lol this has been fun. You’re really funny! I’ll get your number and we’ll get coffee… as friends.

    We pull out our phones. Puts in her name, phone fucks up. Says I need to get a new phone.

    Me: Why so I can compensate for something? Don’t worry, it’s big.
    HB7: lol (I shouldn’t have used this joke again)

    Then she just like… is staring at my lips, I’m pretty sure. I’m like, is there is something on my lips and I cover my mouth. She’s lols.

    We huge and then she moves her face close to my face, but I’m like so amazed this is happening that I don’t even really notice. I noticed it later on.

    There was other stuff in the middle but it was all roleplaying. Decided to call her Stacey and pretend she was my “dead” girlfriend. HB7 said that’s weird lol. So yeah did a bunch of role playing.

    Too bad, she gave me either a fake number or a wrong number, I dunno. A person responded to the text I sent her saying it was someone else. Weird. That’s never happened to me before. Usually it’ll just be a flat out ‘no’ if they didn’t want me to have their number.

    Anyway, that was the weekend. Went daygaming today, could’ve bounced with these two chicks to the bars. Didn’t cuz I’m still doing job research and didn’t want to sacrifice that time hanging with two older women who may or may not have put out. Sigh, maybe I should’ve tried. I need to get ahead in getting the rest of my life together (finding a better job), cuz that’s honestly more important.

    Shorter FR this time, but pretty tired. Feel free to skip breaking this one down YaReally if there’s nothing interesting here. I feel like it was a good day of doing things I didn’t want to:

    – definitely didn’t want to meetup with LondonHB6 chick, no opportunity to eject (lol)
    – did not want to go into mixed sets

    Skipped industry night because I was behind on work. This has to stop. I’m missing out on other opportunities because of my habit of completing my projects near their deadlines and procrastinating when I have plenty of time to get them done.

    Also forgot storytelling mission for the most part… maybe I should do it as a warmup instead of as a main goal. In all of those shorter earlier sets, I could’ve used it.

    • Hunter says:

      Typos here, my bad. There were some other interactions, but pointless to make note of. Met two-set with HB9 and HB7 outside of McDonalds, was too intimidated to be myself. Eh.. AlphaWing straight up ignored her to talk to her less attractive friend… I feel like he did that on purpose, but he never said he did so I couldn’t tell ya.

      • PowerShank says:

        Talk to the ugly one, ignore the hot one (the target obviously). That’s a play straight out of the venerable Mystery Method.

    • JohnDSee says:

      Not that I doubt the FRs posted here, but I couldn’t remember this kind of detail from a convo I had with my friend 2 hours ago. Do you guys take notes as you go, or do you have incredible memory skills. I’ve banged chics even if I forgot their name 5 seconds after meeting them. Maybe it’s a priorities thing. I honestly hope your recall helps you get laid. Whatever works. Cheers.

      • I would say Hunter and Scray provide some of the best FRs in terms of the reality they paint and the honest they bring to the table.

        If you go out sober a lot of this stuff isn’t that hard to remember but I think the attention to detail is a pattern amongst us in the community as we tend to be more in our head and introverted.

        You may be a natural in the sense that you can’t explain a lot of this stuff nor can you articulate it as it’s going down. It’s common among some of my natural friends who look down on people who “overthink this stuff”

      • JohnDSee says:

        Not an alpa or natural. Maybe I keep my situs simple. Never put much thought into it, I’ve never been accused of under thinking though. Good hunting, gentlemen.

    • Scray says:

      Nice man, this FR is great. You should really compare this FR to your earliest ones. This is meaty.

      ‘No deep rapport in any of these. How do you transition to deep rapport??? I’m thinking it must be DHVing and then going into a deep rapport question.’

      A common theme in your interactions is that you jump the gun insanely fast. Like, there’s no doubt that later on there will be situations where you can just step in, see the opportunity, and make out with a chick without saying more than three or four words. But for now, just try to go with the basics. It’s a foundation.

      Keep in mind that when you’re out there, a huge part of it is outside of your control. Logistics problems, how her mood is that day, etc. etc. So, it’s a long-run type deal.

      But, that long interaction you posted is the answer to your own question. It’s only been two weeks and you’re already starting to develop the necessary skill set (yeah forreal!)

      ‘Me: Hey, are you racist?
      HB7: What?
      Me: Just kidding. Thought I’d stop you.
      HB7: Oh okay.
      Me: You have this nerdish face.’

      Awesome. You open it up, but you’re breezy. And you back off once you get her attention. This is very effective. The ‘just kidding,’ let’s her know that you’re a NORMAL COOL guy. ‘Thought I’d stop you,’ yeah, that’s something a NORMAL COOL guy would do to a girl he likes. ‘You have this nerdish face,’ …this is decent, but if we’re going this C&F route, I’d soften it a bit ‘you have this nerdish face, it’s cute in a unique way.’

      So you open her up and come off as a NORMAL COOL guy….what happens?

      She hooks.

      ‘Me: Yeah, you cosplay?
      HB7: What’s that?
      Me: It’s when you dress up as anime characters. I’m too nerdy for you.
      HB7: Oh okay lol
      Me: Are you a Democrat?
      HB7: Why do you say that?
      Me: Doesn’t matter I’m a conservative. I don’t believe in giving girls rights. I’d put you in a cellar and only pass you food underneath the bars.
      HB7: Lol and I’d just grasp at the tray trying to get at it.
      She was laughing a lot so she stayed.’

      ‘I’m too nerdy for you,’ while this is a little lol, you’re headed in the right direction — it’s a DQ. Now, it’s not the best DQ or the best way to DQ….but yeah, there it is. NORMAL COOL guy who is kind of DQ’ing himself. Fairly solid so far.

      ‘Are you a Democrat?’ Nice, nice. Dropping a charged question like this and leading it into the humor is great. And BOOM you suck her into your reality ‘and I’d just grasp at the tray trying to get at it.’

      ‘She was laughing a lot so she stayed.
      Me: We should get coffee sometime.
      HB7: I have a boyfriend.
      Me: So, I have a girlfriend.
      HB7: Lol
      Me: What you got there (pointing to her bag)?
      HB7: A bra from Victoria Secret.
      Me: You’re not going to tell me how big they are?
      HB7: Lol no
      Me: I’ll tell you how big I am (I look down)… 10, 11 inches.
      HB7: lol
      Me: I’m talking about my shoes. You thought I would tell you my dick size?Nope lol’

      Ha, now you’re running with the positive attention. At this point, after she hooks, start escalating. Fuck coffee, put your hand on her, touch her, do something. You created an opportunity. And at this point, a NORMAL COOL guy would escalate.

      You kind of are escalating though — you’re trying to make it sexual. It’s in a kind of awkward way; I prefer to verbally escalate with roleplaying — imagining us as bf/gf or some shit. So many guys talk about their dicks.

      ‘HB7: lol
      Me: Don’t worry, it’s big.’

      Missed opportunity to tell her how small it is lol. The ‘wet baby carrot’ routine is 100% legit field-certified. 0% failure rate on this end. Always raises value (Strange but true).

      ‘HB7: (she’s like staring into my eyes now) Where are you from?’

      If she really is staring into your eyes — kiss her. If you want help, just say ‘do you want to kiss me?’ if she says ‘no,’ then you can say ‘I didn’t say you could.’ Or if she says ‘maybe’ or something that isn’t ‘yes,’ just say ‘let’s find out.’ Even poorly executed, this has gotten me great results.

      ‘Small talk from here. She does marketing. Blah. Wasted a perfectly good opportunity to do deep rapport here JEEEZ WHY DO I KEEP FORGETTING
      Me: (so I run out of stuff to say… lol) Let’s get coffee right now (I grab her hand)’

      She’s waiting for you to DO SOMETHING.

      HB7: Wait no, they’re having a sale on X and today’s the last day.
      Me: Alright fine. Lol this has been fun. You’re really funny! I’ll get your number and we’ll get coffee… as friends.”

      And after this she hugs you and you still fail to escalate. Ya, you got caught up in it. Think of it this way, you pulled off a solid 30-40 seconds of game and you pretty much hooked her. That’s how strong it is lol.

    • rottscher says:

      >How do you transition to deep rapport???<

      Having honest interest in the other person. Just ask: “Why?”

  36. Rum says:

    ephobhrhererl

  37. Arturo says:

    But wait but wait but wait but wait !

    You see, I just watched “Hitch” on Netflix, and you see, it appears that negroes are savvy and glamorous and the only members of homo sapiens to understand and therefore be able to truly seduce women.

    On quite a few other Hollywood titles on Netflix, the Negro is Always the one to get the white wimmenz.

    White men are just evil evil evil, and the Negro male with the black eyes devoid of evil visible pupils and the prognathic mandible – indicating a facial slope of approximately 70 degrees compared with 90 degrees for an (evil) white man and 60 degrees for a higher primate – the Black is ALWAYS the one that gets the white wimmenz to tingle.

    Therefore, based on my evidence as gathered through Netflix, I would say that all the research presented in this blog and its comment section is wrong Wrong WRONG, not just that it’s racist as fuck.

    Clearly, white males are the losers, and negro males especially ICBMs (Inner City Black Males), are the winners, when it comes to wooing White Wimmenz.

    Heck, here in New Orleans, I see white wimmenz arm in arm with negroes Every Single Day ! In fact, I see a lot of white wimmenz here who have bravely and courageously bettered the Human Race, by interbreeding with our Basketball American betters, and producing entire SUVs full of curly-haired mulattoes.

    Even the New York Times – the World’s newspaper of record – features stories about homosexual white males reproducing white babies through noble surregacy every single day, so to all you haters I say: Stand Down White Man ! The world is being transformed into a better place without and despite all your bothersome meddling.

  38. Alex Jones SuperFan says:

    This was informative for one who wasn’t sure if pick up artistry was anything more than general psycho-manipulative mind rape tactics that could also work on the male gender.

    Here’s an interesting question, though: will the bluepills eventually have to bow to the weight of the evidence and embrace it, will they continue on in their delusions, or will they be forced to acknowledge it while simultaneously denouncing it as wrong and insulting to “human dignity”?

    If they do accept it, I wonder if we can expect sexual anarchy to reign completely.

  39. Mean Mr. Mustard. says:

    If a man is reliant on women, or the happiness of his woman for his happiness; he is setting himself up for bitter disappointment and exasperation.

  40. Ripley says:

    Your analyses range from hilariously funny to utter nonsense.
    Of course women are a bit more cautious about men approaching them because they can tell in most cases what intentions drive them. Thanks to guys like you and your pitiful followers.
    But nonetheless there exists a big group of these so-called nice girls that appreciate when a guy doesn’t act like an immature imbecile but rather like a grown-up who is in peace with himself and can show real and adequate interest

  41. Gro Haila says:

    Why is the WhyKny and his trusty steed!

  42. thwack says:

    How to tell if a girl thinks you have a big dick.

    Send her a cock shot and if she replies with only a single word; she thinks its big.

  43. Holden Caulfield says:

    slutty bachelorette (redundant!) fucks both guys, rejects the beta male:

    https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/bachelorette-final-rose-recap-andi-dorfmans-runner-confronts-032000802-us-weekly.html

  44. Gro Haila says:

    So it is the YKW WhyKny and his circumcised mule!

    How low an once proud and productive tribe has fallen … reduced to frontrunning for the yankee-redneck compact … prostituting for scraps from Cracker…

  45. Greg Eliot says:

    Let me see… bitch… nice girl… bitch… nice girl… hmmmm…

    Which one’s got the bigger tits?

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