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I know this guy whose pickup technique is to go up to a woman and, with a little bit of excitement in his voice, ask “Can I have your autograph? You’re [Katy Perry], right?” He would pick a celebrity who, from ten miles away, could be said to slightly resemble his lust interest.

She would invariably answer, no, she wasn’t, and he would tell her the resemblance was uncanny. If the girl was very pretty, he would be sure to choose a female celebrity who wasn’t so pretty to compare her to, say Rene Zellweger or Ellen Page.

I saw him in action a couple of times. I wouldn’t recommend his game to anyone. It’s stupid game. Goofy and supplicating. The girls laughed in that “who is this clown?” way, I think he got one’s number, but don’t know if they reconnected.

When I asked him why he spit such horrible game, he said that at the end of the day it was his absurd gambit the girls would recall. With mockery, I retorted.

Yet, if your choice is stupid game or nothing game — staring from afar as the girlworld passes you by — then you should choose stupid game. Every time. Because stupid game man is getting more numbers, and more dates, than nothing game man. Boldness bereft of any charm is still boldness. And girls respond to boldness the way men respond to beauty… stunned, aroused, compliant.

235 Responses to “Stupid Game Beats Nothing Game”

  1. Zombie Shane says:

    I know some folks suffer from some pretty severe anxiety and shit, but dadgum, can’t y’all just get up the courage to say, “Hello”?

    Heck, you could even throw in some Honesty Game after that: “Gosh, I wish I could think of something clever to say to you, but you were such a little cutie pie that I just had to say hi!”

    • yeahokcool says:

      prob nix the “cutie pie” part

    • Tilikum says:

      well, maybe we all don’t live back deep in the woods playing dueling banjos.

      higher end split tails require some subtlety.

    • In my younger years I would sometimes use French Fry Game.

      Going up to a random cute girl eating at the bar, I would tell her “hey those look good” and pluck a french fry off her plate.

      The girl would be shocked or laugh, but either way it got the conversation started.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        > “either way it got the conversation started”

        This is all that matters.

        Well, that, and once the conversation gets going, you HOLD ALPHA FRAME.

        Don’t let your guard down and start getting all Beta.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        And once you’ve got the conversation going, gently but firmly move it towards physical topics which involve shit like bra sizes, cheating on boyfriends, what parts of her body should a girl shave, sassy bitches who need a nice hard spanking, etc etc etc.

        Don’t talk about boring shit and get your ass friend-zoned.

        Get it steamy – not obscene – lots of double entendres and anatomical references and harlequin novel naughty talk, but in a clever and refined way.

      • Today that would be “totally so wrong” … and of course (frenchg fry) rape!

    • Troubadour says:

      I was just firing up to write that I have decided to give up and go with what you just called “honesty game.”

      “I’m trying to flirt with you, but I suck at flirting, and have no idea how.”

      It’s better than spending most of a year deluding yourself into thinking you’re ever going to get out of the friend zone with the one number you got all year.

      She has totally been milking me for attention and dropping little hope nuggets to keep me marching along the whole time. She likes the attention, and she should, but she isn’t ever going to pay for it. I finally told her to fuck off.

      I need to start meeting girls.

      On the whole, this deal did me a lot of good though. I came out of it with the right idea. This is a list of stuff I’m looking for in a girl I want to be fucking. It looks like you have some of this stuff. Can I take a look around? Are you interested in selling?

      It’s American Pickers style pussy hunting. I think I might literally print fliers to hand out too. I’m really busy, I know what I want, if you have this stuff, let’s talk, but I ain’t got time to waste chatting you up and going through a lot of bullshit with you if what you got isn’t for sale.

      (This is the most sane thing I’ve written in MONTHS. Jesus I had it bad for that friend girl.)

      • having a bad day says:

        “She has totally been milking me for attention and dropping little hope nuggets to keep me marching along the whole time. She likes the attention, and she should, but she isn’t ever going to pay for it.”

        that’s the definition of ‘beta orbiter’…did you buy her shit, too?…lol…

        “It’s American Pickers style pussy hunting. I think I might literally print fliers to hand out too. I’m really busy, I know what I want, if you have this stuff, let’s talk, but I ain’t got time to waste chatting you up and going through a lot of bullshit with you if what you got isn’t for sale. ”

        that’s the definition of ‘beta’…you need to get your head straight, if you really want to ‘go extra-curricular’…lol…alpha = assume the sale…or don’t…you might not really want that…and that’s ok…

        “I’m trying to flirt with you, but I suck at flirting, and have no idea how.”

        actually, that’s not a bad opener…walk up, say that line while looking in her eyes, then smirk and look her up and down (which establishes sexual intent)…then say ‘tell me something fun…’ then just smirk and wait her out while staring in her eyes/at her mouth…oh, and don’t forget the alpha pose…

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/the-alpha-male-pose/

        good luck!

      • Zombie Shane says:

        How long did you waste being a nice a guy and talking about boring shit and not moving things gently but firmly towards ANYTHING sexual?

        Shit like, “Hey, do you know Carla in Accounting? I heard her giving Mike in Receiving some seriously hateful lip the other day. Dude needs to man up and put her over his knee and give her a nice hard spanking.”

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Or: “Hey, do you know Carla in Accounting? Is she cheating on her husband with Mike in Receiving? Cause I always see those two together. Like they’re joined at the hip.”

        Or: “Hey, do you know Carla in Accounting? Did she get a boob job or what? Cause I swear she used to have her some B-Cups, but now she looks like that fat red-headed chick on Mad Men.”

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Etc etc etc – lousy shaving jobs [“you can see her pubes sticking out of her bathing suit – disgusting!”], perfume that’s overpowering [“don’t ever get in the elevator with her unless you want your wife to think that you’re having an affair”], bra-less blouses [“didn’t her mother teach her to wear a bra in an office where they keep the AC at 68F on a sweltering day in July – they’re standing up at attention like the twin peaks of Kilimanjaro in there”].

      • Zombie Shane says:

        You wanna get that sexual shit in there within the first five minutes of knowing her.

        And then you wanna push hard on escalating it to coitus within say five days.

        Don’t be Mr Nice Guy for the first 30 days and get your ass friend-zoned for all eternity.

        Move quickly, while moving’s good.

      • Troubadour says:

        I actually explained to her what a beta orbiter was six months ago, in those terms. She has been trying to get me back in orbit since then, and finally succeeded in conning me with some bullshit about being my mistress.

        Yes, Zombie, I eventually realized all the sexy talk was missing from that conversation, and I called bullshit on it, and told her to fuck off.

        Oh well. At least I figured out what I’m really looking for, and I can waste less time now. I was on the right track already. The only number I got is from the only girl I’ve met in the last year or so who had any chance of being what I was looking for anyway.

        I’ve been having trouble with this, because my friends are all horrified for me, and trying to have an intervention. I’ve been worried about myself too, but I’m not worried now. This is what I’m really looking for.

        I don’t think I’m competing with any of you guys for pussy, so I’ll just keep the details to myself.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        > “and I can waste less time now”

        Do not waste ANY time before you move into sexual mode.

        Within the first three or four sentences after opening her, move the conversation gently but firmly to the sexual.

        Not obscene or vulgar or disgusting – just clever and witty but relaxed banter and straightforward banter about the birds and the bees.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Then move quickly to get her number and quickly after that to make the appointment for a serious date.

        Do not ask for her number – tell her to give you her number.

        Do not ask for her to accompany you on the date – tell her that she will be going out with on a date.

        Move quickly while the gina is still tingling.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Make an appointment at a nice upscale hotel bar [or similar], one or two towns over, to minimize the probability of being caught.

        Somewhere upscale and classy where it’s clear that she will be having cocktails as a prelude to getting a cock in her tail.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Also, you will need a burn phone with plenty of minutes on it [all purchased with CASH] and maybe also a burn credit card to reserve a hotel room online [get a Visa or MC Gift Card, also purchased with CASH, which doesn’t require divulging your SSN – although you will have to register it online first – do NOT get the ones which require divulging an SSN].

        And of course burn email addresses, etc etc etc.

        Cheating on your wife is a LOT of work – just ask YaReally about this shit.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Or maybe not an upscale hotel bar.

        Maybe she’s more of a “get a blanket and an ice chest and a nice bottle of chardonnay and two wine glasses and a stick of Brie and some crackers and head down to the rock quarry and go skinny dipping” kinduva chick.

        You’ll have to be the judge of your particular line of attack.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        The point is that you must MOVE FAST – within the first few days – while the gina is still tingling.

        Do not be a nice guy and get friend-zoned.

        Do not allow her to think of you as an asexual creature like her “little brother”.

        Do not allow her to manipulate you and wrap you around her little finger.

        MOVE FAST. SEAL THE DEAL. PENIS IN VAGINA.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        And if you wanna mix troglodyte game with James Bond game, then you can pull the cork out of the chardonnay bottle and cut the Brie with your Swiss Army knife.

      • having a bad day says:

        @Troubadour

        “I actually explained to her what a beta orbiter was six months ago, in those terms. She has been trying to get me back in orbit since then, and finally succeeded in conning me with some bullshit about being my mistress.”

        ‘talking’ is what girls do to/with betas…that’s how they know the guys are beta, they don’t escalate kino. ‘alpha’ is ALL (and only) about sexual success…which means ‘sealing the deal’…lol…and you only have a certain time frame to do this, else the girl’s beta defense algorithm kicks in…

        “Yes, Zombie, I eventually realized all the sexy talk was missing from that conversation, and I called bullshit on it, and told her to fuck off.”

        even sexy talk (without kino) is still beta (or her gay BFF…lol)…touch her early, touch her often, touch her like you own her…lol…assume the sale and seal the deal…(lol…with jingoism like that i should have a late night infomercial…lol)

        “Oh well. At least I figured out what I’m really looking for, and I can waste less time now. I was on the right track already. The only number I got is from the only girl I’ve met in the last year or so who had any chance of being what I was looking for anyway.”

        this sounds like you already have oneitis for some future as yet unknown girl…lol…(as opposed to ‘screening’ potential partners) and i completely understand…i was in roughly your situation when i started this process (which is why i’m offering advice…). i just wanted that ‘one true love’…that i could build a life with (invest resources) and have kids and grow old with, blah blah…and i thought i had that…right up until i didn’t…lol…

        having a good heart in the right place doesn’t change basic attraction biology…if you go into a situ with the expectation of ‘this girl is the one and only’ you are setting yourself up to fail…that’s harsh, but true…it’s something that i didn’t/don’t want to be true, but there it is…the only way i turned around my looming nasty divorce was to accept that reality…and to get with the program…lol…

        that’s what ‘having options’ actually means…if you are ‘limiting’ yourself to that one woman, you have already failed…that doesn’t mean that you actually have to bang every girl you interact with…it just means that when you interact with women you both know that if YOU wanted to, you would be in the bathroom getting a ‘hummer’…lol…and the only reason that you aren’t is bc of your choice…not hers… this is a very ‘zen’ concept… as soon as you aim for the target, you have already missed…lol…

        “I’ve been having trouble with this, because my friends are all horrified for me, and trying to have an intervention. I’ve been worried about myself too, but I’m not worried now. This is what I’m really looking for.”

        other people don’t like it when you try to crawl out the box they put you into…lol…but we can still change for the better…

        good luck!

      • Troubadour says:

        I don’t need burner anything. I regularly update my wife on how all of this is going, just to watch her face sink and her happiness cloud over. If she was going to divorce me, she’d have divorced me a long time ago.

        I think the missing element from Friend Girl Debacle is definitely kino. How do you kino a girl you interact with through a 4′ square window with a ledge at about chest height? Poorly. I barely touched her, and even I could have told you that you don’t seduce a girl with words, but with your body.

        I invested all this crap trying to coax her out of there, and it failed. I spent way too much time just talking to her, swimming around in wishful thinking. This was doomed before it even began, because I had already known this girl for months before I first discovered game.

        I was always trying to get out of the friend zone, and I thought I could do it, because I’m a REALLY high value man to this girl, and I’m way out of her league. I want to think it almost worked, but I’m probably just blowing smoke up my own ass to feel better about all the time I wasted.

        Going forward, I do think I’m on the right track looking for other girls like this one, but if they’re unicorns, I need to find where the entire herd is, and have as many options as possible. If I find a dozen of them, I want the whole dozen for my harem, and there is a remote possibility I might eventually whittle it down to one, but probably not.

      • having a bad day says:

        @troubadour

        “I think the missing element from Friend Girl Debacle is definitely kino. How do you kino a girl you interact with through a 4′ square window with a ledge at about chest height? Poorly. I barely touched her, and even I could have told you that you don’t seduce a girl with words, but with your body.”

        didn’t know the interaction was at work…that was doomed from the beginning…if you couldn’t ‘get her out’ for at least a drink, you weren’t in ANY position to move out of beta orbiter valley…nothing you or ANYONE could have done about that…lol…

        “I invested all this crap trying to coax her out of there, and it failed. I spent way too much time just talking to her, swimming around in wishful thinking. This was doomed before it even began, because I had already known this girl for months before I first discovered game.”

        at least you tried…give yourself some credit for that…not a lot of guys try new shit…it’s uncomfortable…lol…

        “Going forward, I do think I’m on the right track looking for other girls like this one, but if they’re unicorns, I need to find where the entire herd is, and have as many options as possible. If I find a dozen of them, I want the whole dozen for my harem, and there is a remote possibility I might eventually whittle it down to one, but probably not.”

        NO girl is a unicorn…lol…

    • no says:

      It’s easy to notice you don’t have “posting anxiety.”

      • Zombie Shane says:

        The only anxiety I have is White Guys NOT putting White buns in White Ovens.

        If we had a good steady supply of White babies emerging from White birth canals, then I could just STFU and go the hell away.

        Well, that and the God-damned Frankfurt School.

      • JohnDSee says:

        I can’t tell if Frankfurt School treachery is as bad as myself or the commenter known as Zombie Shane believe it is. People I try to talk to about such matters have never heard of FS and it can be hard to describe. I have made some of them aware of it though. Hell, I can’t tell how many people even read this blog. If I go by the number of comments, it would seem like only a few hundred people. Whereas, cracked has thousands of comments on some of their most inane articles. Any ideas?

      • Knowbody says:

        Man..reading this stuff is alright here and there but bein a Mano sphere blog regular is not healthy. This stuff will wear on you and before you know it you hate even bein around chicks much less game em. Mgtow are just basement dwellers reading anti feminist blogs daily.

        Take a break ZS. If any 20 something dude tried half the shit you’re saying here in a night club he’d get laughed outta the joint. “Cutie pie?” C’mon man…a “nice hard spanking?” Dude that’s dripping in weird middle age guy game. If you’re lookin to bang hot sluts from the club..to stand out it’s “lemme pour champagne on your fuckin tits and I’ll consider buyin you a dollar beer!”

      • Carlos Danger says:

        JohnDSee- it’s simple math. This blog attracts a lot of smart people. The more middle or low brow something is, the more people participate in it. Frankfurt School adherents are also disinclined to discuss themselves and their tactics much because it reveals their intention. Saul Alinsky is classical Frankfurt School AKA the Institute for Social Research, their true name. Look them up. They still exist and work out of Berkeley, I believe. Socialist International also exists and coordinates Socialist policy world wide. They are based in London. ZS never mentions these guys but he should. They are the political arm of the PTB. In my opinion, things are too advanced at this point for them to be reversed. We will be One World socialist until it crashes and when it crashes, there will be a war. Only then will you have your revenge. We appear to be living through the predictions of the Schofield Bible as we speak.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        > “If any 20 something dude tried half the shit you’re saying here… C’mon man…a “nice hard spanking?””

        Do you think that the teenagers and the twenty-somethings who came back from Bastogne or Peleliu would have hesitated to put a sassy mouthy broad over their knees and to give her a nice hard spanking?

        The Chateau IS the counteroffensive against the WAR ON BOYS.

        Teaching them what it means to be a MAN.

        The War Against Boys: How Misguided Policies are Harming Our Young Men

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  2. Subarctic Hillbilly says:

    One of my faves. I approach (e.g.) with “Hey it’s Natalie Portman’s evil twin.” Extra points for noting resemblance to unhot (Jodie Foster) or notorious (Lindsay Lohan) celebs. To amuse myself I’ll sometimes go into “yea. Saw you in Vanity Fair last month. You need a better makeup person/what were you thinking with that hairstyle?”

    Years later they still bring it up. By then I’m like “hmm. I think you look more like Cher/Rosie O’Donnell now.” Usually gets a punch in the arm followed by sex. Girls are fun and delicious. Do try this at home.

  3. Steve Johnson says:

    I could picture this working better if he went full absurd.

    [Cute 22 year old white girl] – “Can I have your autograph? You’re [Oprah], right?”

    That would be amusing at least.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      This afternoon, Rush was talking about the new Obamas/Clintons book – Rush calls it “Blood Clot” – and he said that [according to the book] both the Obamas and the Clintons are obsessed with “The Oprah”.

      But that, on the other hand, “The Oprah” now thinks that the Obamas are has-beens, and she doesn’t even want to give them the time of day anymore.

      Negress bulldykes. Can’t live with ‘em, can’t live without ‘em.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        BTW, between Barry and Michelle and Hitlery, you’d be hard pressed to gather together the IQ of a large walnut.

        But Slick Willy is pretty smart, and if he is obsessed with The Oprah, then that tells you all you need to know about aging hippy white chicks, and The Oprah’s magical hold over them.

        And Slick Willy wants in on that action.

      • The Spirit Within says:

        Zombie, do you have a fucking job?

      • Zombie Shane says:

        > “Zombie, do you have a fucking job?”

        Yes, Mordecai, I assist Rabbi Cohen by holding down the little jew boys for his gustatory pleasure.

      • Modern Primitive says:

        I reckon ZS is still a teenager.

      • Z0mbie Shane says:

        I sometimes ask the Rabbi if I can take a turn, but so far he has refused 🙁

      • yeahokcool says:

        no, i don’t think zs is a teenager. i’d wager he’s about 35, childless, and on disability of some sort. he does not live with his parents as they’re either estranged or dead.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        LOL’ed.

        SRSLY.

  4. mindweapon says:

    That’s pretty funny and a good icebreaker. You are absolutely right, it beats boring beta-ness, if nothing else.

  5. Amy says:

    Lol I think I met this guy a few weeks ago. He told me I looked like Dr. Oz’s daughter and totally ruined my day.

    • Tilikum says:

      made me google that freak. ugh.

      • Amy says:

        I had to google her too! If he was trying to neg me it didn’t work, because I immediately thought “if you think I look like that and you’re hitting on me, there’s something seriously wrong with you.”

      • yeahokcool says:

        @amy. your story doesn’t add up. if you had to look her up, how did you “immediately” know what she looked like?

      • Amy says:

        Ummmm I said “I have to google her bc I don’t know who she is”, and then I did. While the guy was standing there. And then I immediately thought he was nuts.

        Why would I make up a story that makes it sound like I look like a fat chick with a manface? Lol

      • yeahokcool says:

        no, i was suggesting that you were pretending that you didn’t know who was dr. oz’s daughter was. but, it is more hilarious if you took the time to look her up while he was talking to you haha

    • yeahokcool says:

      seems like a very obscure reference.

    • no says:

      What a weird reference. May you look like a middle-aged chick to him lol.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      PLEASE don’t tell me that you’re gonna sleep with him after that.

      Don’t reward Hateful Evil Nihilist Game by spreading your legs for it.

      • Joe Sixpack says:

        The fact that it totally ruined her day means she likes the guy and his opinion of her matters deeply. A beta schlub would never even register on her radar. She simply would give any emotion or care to what a man she is not attracted to thinks of her.

        But a month later, after much Google Image searching of Dr. Oz’s daughter, and searching in vain to find one that looks hot, this guy’s comment still bothers her in a way she can’t put her finger on. Enough so that, one day soon, Amy will get dressed up and accidentally-on-purpose run into him again, to prove that she looks nothing like this Oz girl.

        She will then fall for his M3 Qualificiation, that “I hardly recognized you, you look a little different than the last time I saw you” and inwardly-excited/outwardly cool and hesitant, agree to drinks later in the week.

        And so the world turns.

        I’m a personal trainer, and have told girls with perfect hourglass bodies, that they could stand to lose a few more pounds, that I can see their potential. (Which is the truth, this is Southern California and these women are seeking near-perfection). And they come back weeks later, still upset in the “you’re such a jerk!/arm punch” way wanting to be trained to perfect their body.

        But this really only has any effect on the higher SMV type girls, as Amy appears to be, from seeing her doll-like hovercard pic that only shows half her face.

        It’s simply hardwired into the high SMV female psyche to want to prove wrong a man who questions her appearance in any way, or who seemingly doesn’t see her in the way that so many hundreds of beta orbiters tell her, via their looks, comments and visual undressing every week of her life.

        It is an uncomfortable disconnect that must be fixed, an itch that must be scratched, to reassure her that in the eyes of men she finds attractive, that she is indeed hot after all.

      • thrust says:

        @ sixpack. agreed.

        like seinfeld where buddy tells elaine she has a big head – or me telling my current i can see the shadow of a double-chin

      • Zombie Shane says:

        > “The fact that it totally ruined her day means she likes the guy and his opinion of her matters deeply.”

        EXACTLY MY POINT.

        The fact that Amy lives at The Chateau suggest to me that she doesn’t [or at least might not] have an Alpha Father in her life.

        In fact, I feel like The Chateau is her Alpha Father.

        And we need to be screaming at her: “AMY, DO NOT TAKE THE CANDY FROM THAT SOCIOPATH AND DO NOT GET INTO HIS CAR!!!”

      • Amy says:

        Lol you guys kill me. It’s a pickup story about a five minute encounter that happened three weeks ago. Do you know how often girls get hit on? It wasn’t a life changing event. I was reminded of it because of the blog topic, that’s all.

        Somebody asked which Oz girl- Daphne. If I gained 40 pounds and had surgery on my jawline, maybe. We have the same hair and thats it. The only two celebrities I am often compared to are Drew Barrymore in Charlies Angels and young Rene Russo. Neither comparison super flattering but better than Daphne Oz.

    • Henry Jones says:

      Daphne, Zoe, or Arabella?

  6. Waffles says:

    lol some of the funnest times can be had when you use absurdity game. My one buddy has a line where he asks girls if they have ever heard of “the salsa baby of 93″ and goes into a story about how when he was a baby he was in a commercial as a…salsa dancing baby. Bottom line is it doesn’t have to make sense, if you have the right confidence/attitude you can weed out extremely uptight girls and have some fun.

  7. martin says:

    It’s hard to do. Rejection from women is literally saying they don’t find you sexually fit to reproduce. There aren’t many things more damning than that. Never asking is essentially the same thing but at least you took yourself out of the game instead of being forced out. A part of me wonders if game is superfluous and really no mere mortal has good odds, just asking enough women ensures a victory somewhere.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      > “Rejection from women is literally saying they don’t find you sexually fit to reproduce.”

      STOP CARING!

      Let go of it.

      Become the Honey Badger.

    • cryo says:

      Shouldn’t take rejection personally. Women are fickle creatures and can change their mind about their relationships after reading a book or watching a film. If you keep internalizing rejection as a personal affront then you’re wandering down a slippery slope of low self-worth.

      Regarding today’s post, I might try this: “Excuse me ma’am but were you in a Michael Bolton video?”

    • The Burninator says:

      Who cares what they’re indicating? It’s not even damning, it’s just them expressing a preferences. Don’t be an Emo, if they reject you then laugh, flip them off (even if just mentally) and move forward. The best of the best of us get rejections rather regularly, the trick is to never internalize it and smirk at what an idiot she is for rejecting Solid Gold like yourself.

      Dude, seriously, the tone and wording of your post informs me right off the bat that the first girl that doesn’t reject you will be put on a ten foot high pedestal simply because she “accepted” you.

      • martin says:

        ok, I have really just recently begun to analyze socializing. On the one hand, being encouraged to not be involuntarily celibate means placing importance on being sexually attractive. On the other hand, you are encouraged to not place importance on being sexually attractive because that means caring too much about what women think. Also, the universal distinction between alpha and beta suggests that if you are not attractive to one woman, you are not attractive to any because women like alpha men. So I really just stated things as I understand them, no emotions involved. As far as I can tell from things, I need to be whatever alpha is before I speak to women.

        Admittedly, I don’t know the nuances of what happens after not being rejected, fine, thanks for the tip, asshole, in fact, even though I think you are being a dick about it your point is pretty brilliant.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        > “ok, I have really just recently begun to analyze socializing.”

        STOP ANALYZING!!!!

        A woman doesn’t want to date a frigging computer.

        She wants to date a WOLF!

      • Zombie Shane says:

        > “thanks for the tip, asshole, in fact, even though I think you are being a dick about it”

        Heidegger – concentrate on these EMOTIONS which you are describing here.

        The rush of primordial testosterone and adrenaline which you experienced as you wrote that.

        Women are not analytical creatures – they are emotional creatures.

        And if you are going to be coupling with women, then it is going to be ALL EMOTION ALL THE DAMNED TIME.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        The only role for anything approaching “analysis” in your relationship with women is your ability to [very quickly] analyze a series of hypotheticals and see some potential for IRONY in them which can be used in HUMOR.

        And chicks love humor.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Because they can’t do humor.

        Humor is foreign to them.

        They can’t analyze and disassemble and re-assemble [in almost infinitely many possible permutations] a set of hypotheticals so as to get irony leading to humor.

        Only men can possibly do that.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        But Heidegger, even with analysis leading to irony leading to humor, there is still a role to be played by EMOTION.

        Before you open your mouth, and drop a joke on her, you have got to listen to your emotions, and ask youself:

        1) Is this good, light hearted, jocular humor, which could make the world a better place, or

        2) Is this dark evil nihilistic “anti-humor”, which will only make the world a worse place?

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Don’t get all Dark and scorched-earth on her with the anti-humor.

        Bite your tongue and take the high road.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Oh, and Heidegger – NO NERD JOKES!

        No jokes about C++ programming or signal analysis or crystalline structures or any of that shit.

        In fact, if you can’t keep your mouth shut about a nerd joke, and you just have to blurt out something, then use it as an opportunity to make some Honesty Game out of it.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        YOU [muttering under your breath]: “Oh my God, I just thought of an hilarious nerd joke.”

        SHE: “What is it? Tell me. Tell me! Tell me!!!”

        YOU: “Honey, it’s a nerd joke. It would take me a year to explain it to you.”

        Etc etc etc.

    • newlyaloof says:

      “It’s hard to do.” Exactly why it is exciting. Do you like video games that are too easy to win?

      “rejection from women is literally saying they don’t find you sexually fit to reproduce.” Rejection from women could mean they’re on their period, or lesbians. If you have a dick that works, you are sexually fit to reproduce. Get out of your head space and go for a walk.

      “There aren’t many things more damning than that.” Any girl that rejects you is a woman approaching her wall, and the wall is more damning than anything else.

      “Never asking is essentially the same thing but at least you took yourself out of the game instead of being forced out.” So, would you ever not play a video game because you feared you may not win it? F no, and I know from personal experience that you’ll play a video game damn near two hundred times before you beat it, so you should treat women and game the same way.

      “A part of me wonders if game is …” Stop wondering about this shit and actually get out there and play the video game called GAME.

      • newlyaloof says:

        @Martin – replying to your reply to Burninator:

        1. Do you agree that you in have a penis?
        2. Do you agree that a penis is designed to insert into women?

        if you answer yes to these two simple questions, you’ve accepted your natural place on this earth, and game will help you achieve your natural place on this earth. Simple as that. If you answer yes, all of the insecure reasoning you display in these comments doesn’t mean shit.

        It’s good that you are trying and reading all this shit. At times it can be daunting, but keep at it. Eventually you will see it so clearly that you will look back and shake your head at how insecure you were.

      • donkeypunch says:

        “or lesbians.”

        and not just sexual rejection. Professional too.

        It’s been amazing to discover that some of the most awful women I had to work with, who wanted me to disappear from the workplace just for being a guy, were in fact closet lesbians. They came out years later and suddenly their insane behavior made perfect sense.

        give a woman’s opinion on anything as much weight as you would a sheep’s.

    • cheesetrader says:

      Then don’t give them a chance to reject you – reject them first. Go up, say “hi”, spin on your heels and leave.

      • cheesetrader says:

        @Martin – you wrote “A part of me wonders if game is superfluous and really no mere mortal has good odds, just asking enough women ensures a victory somewhere.”

        Yes and no. Game is about shortening the odds.

        If you stand on a street corner dressed in crappy clothes and ask 100 women out for dinner in a surly voice, you might get one or two positive responses. If you dress decently and ask them out to try a cool restaurant, you might get 10ish or so. Dress snappily and approach them wittily and tell them to share the experience of a hot new place to eat that you know about, 20-30.

        The only differences being how you’re presenting yourself to them

      • Zombie Shane says:

        > “…ask 100 women out for dinner… Dress snappily and approach them wittily and tell them to share the experience of a hot new place to eat that you know about, 20-30.”

        30 / 100 = 0.300.

        If you’re an MLB player, and if you bat 0.300 over a 25-year career, then you WILL go to Cooperstown.

        Even the greatest strike out about 70% of the time.

    • PA says:

      Rejection from women is literally saying they don’t find you sexually fit to reproduce. There aren’t many things more damning than that.

      Rejection or disinterest from men is more damning. It tells her that he doesn’t find her sexually fit to take up five minutes of his time.

    • APL says:

      “Rejection from women is literally saying they don’t find you sexually fit to reproduce.”

      It cuts both ways, you get a fillie chasing you, and turn her down. That’s just like saying, ‘you’re not worth ten minutes of my time and a teaspoonful of semen’.

  8. The Spirit Within says:

    Candyland is a stupid game. Chutes and Ladders is a stupid game. But anything that puts women in a defensive crouch is by definition good game…

  9. Opus says:

    There was a full-of-herself weather-girl on our local T.V. channel – I doubt she would have recognised a thunderstorm had she been soaked in it – and I had always wanted to go up to her and say “you are that [name of less-hot older weather-woman from the rival station] aren’t you”. The chance never materialised but last year as I and a buddy were sitting outside drinking coffee she and a photographer materialised but two feet away for a shoot. The shoot was not going too well and we were privately laughing at her predicament but otherwise largely just ignoring her – she is not used to that. The body was still fit but those elbows! she had obviously mugged a chicken for them. I challenge her to hit that wall – hard – pretty soon – and she is only mid-thirties.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      > “I had always wanted to go up to her and say “you are that [name of less-hot older weather-woman from the rival station] aren’t you”. The chance never materialised but last year as I and a buddy were sitting outside drinking coffee she and a photographer materialised but two feet away for a shoot.”

      OH FOR FUCK’S SAKE.

      YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE.

      GO FOR IT!!!!!

  10. Tilikum says:

    lately ive been pushing mom/daughter game when i can. hot daughter, attractive older mom..generally very competitive w each other. the ultimate pre-selection gambit for a ltr because it never stops. girl acts up, focus on mom for 20 min…….tingle city on the youngun.

    you can do it for months. game mom, game daughter.

    electra complex’s on fire!

    • anonYmous says:

      i stumbled onto that in college, was dating a um 18 year old virgin who wouldnt put out. then i pretty much gave up on her, but when her n i hung out id say things like her mom was cute or that her mom wanted me. the next day those panties were off and the poundin began. she hated her mom, they fought all the time. i think that had something to do with it.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        You mother fuckers are EVIL.

        LOL’ed.

      • Tilikum says:

        Shane,

        Evolution doesn’t select for whats better, just whats most adaptable.

        lets get back to being men again before we worry about being good men.

      • Tilikum says:

        they hate each other….mom, daughter, sister….give them the out that they want.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        > “lets get back to being men again before we worry about being good men.”

        Talmudikum, God created us with two aspects to our nature:

        1) Our animalistic imperative to propagate the species, and

        2) Our morality – our innate ability to sense the difference between right and wrong.

        Without #2, we are nothing more than mere women.

      • Tilikum says:

        dude, what is with the constant and weird jew stuff? it seems like all you can think about. seriously man, what happened or?

    • july says:

      It’s also a great indicator if daughter has quality or not.

  11. Going to go one step further here based on observations in the field.

    The daygame opener I use is hella cheesy but works because it does the job.

    Do I care about how cheesy it is? No

    Do I care that girls throw their head back in disbelief at how cheesy it is? No

    Do I care that I’m not being 100% clear in my intent? No

    Do I care that I got shut down on Sunday in Little Italy when a girl said “Oh god that is the worst pick-up line ever.” No

    I care about one thing right now and that’s it it works. It gives me a chance to open, gauge her receptiveness and keep plowing. No hard stop and no pedestalizing by saying “I just had to tell you how gorgeous you are. ”

    I’m starting to come to the realization of do what fucking works for you. If you’re getting day 2s, numbers, experience and that’s giving you abundance; then who cares if it’s “proper” game or not.

    And beyond the words you convey, I’m finding out that a lot of it comes down to how you feel about yourself at the moment and also, how much you believe that their is a high chance that the girl will be receptive. How do you achieve the latter? By doing enough approaches and getting enough positive reference experiences where your reality is:

    “Yeah this should go OK. Why not?”

    Good luck to all the fellas hustling this summer

    • walawala says:

      @immoral true. Keyboard jockeys love to dis stuff. But the fact is much of game is based on your inner thoughts at the time of the interaction.

      The idea of a “cheesy” pick up line is relative. If it prompts the girl to do a double-take it means her hamster has been stoked.

    • Aspiring PUA says:

      @ immoralgables

      I also do daygame in NYC and honestly don’t use any pickup lines. I go indirect and situational. About a month ago i was sitting on a bench in little italy / chinatown and saw this cute latina chick just standing in the corner and after 2-3 red lights changing, i said fuck it, the universe opened a window for me, go through it haha. I went up to her and said “hey, you ok?”, and she looked at me puzzled and said “yeah why?” I responded, “you’ve been standing here for a while now and i hope your not thinking about splattering your guts in front of the next car that comes through, that’ll ruin my day” with a smirk. She laughed, and it was game on from there. Funny shit was that she was the one that gave me her number when i was about to leave.

      Another case was in Union Square Park about 2 months ago, some Petco pet adoption fair was going on and i just walked through looking for cute targets walking alone and opened this Turkish/Ukraine cutie who had a big bag. My opener? I walked up to her and nosily looked into her bag and said “Oh shoot i thought you had one of those lap dogs in there haha”. She smiled laughed and game on. Ended up talking to her for about an hour walking around and ended it at the Strand book store. Again, as i was about to leave, she gave me her number.

      So in-conclusion, you’re right. Use whatever works for your style / taste. Now i’m no pro, been a lurker here for a while reading your and YaReally’s feedback and calibrated my style based on that. So thanks for the field reports man. Maybe i’ll see you daygaming right next to me one day haha.

      And as you know, St. Marks Place is a hot spot for day gaming cuties.

    • Tilikum says:

      just think. one day, you will get to the point where you can actually walk up and actually tell a girl how pretty she is and THAT will be the line that works, and everything else you have learned in your life actually WONT.

      happens all at once so pay attention!

      • immoralgables says:

        That’s not really my style though. It def was at one point but my personality is such that what I do is working for me.

        Imagine this cocky/funny playful persona that roles up and makes the interaction fun. I’m not trying to go get all weird on it and compliment her looks.

        Besides, the “just go up to her and tell her she’s cute” is the new “hey can I get a female opinion” opener.

        Deep down I get your message. When you can just walk up and say what’s on your mind. Yeah, not quite there yet though

      • Reco says:

        @killer whale…could you please elaborate on this? I think I know what you are saying but also what do you mean by one day everything you have learned wont?

        Also I know why your picture is an Orca. Lol

      • Tilikum says:

        @Reco

        Social dynamics has a logical conclusion where you just “get it” and can internalize most of this. Doesn’t mean you cant get better, but the returns diminish a ton.

        once you set your frame and unfuck yourself, the “game” becomes esoteric and merely a matter of degrees.

        As to the name Tilikumt, the innuendo of the name…. Till-I-cum. Second, the Orca to me is the taxonomical equivalent of the Sigma, the only ocean predator that can easily dispatch the venerable Great White (Alpha).

        Third and most important, Tilikum was the Orca at Sea World who drug that bitch to the bottom and drowned her as an act of defiance (i assume) when her attempts to coach out his nature exceeded his tolerance for the dumb bitch.

    • Scray says:

      I believe that perception controls everything. If it seems like everyone around you perceives you as the person you want to be perceived as, it’s way easy to fall right in to every single game principle.

      I mean, now my openers and shit are WAY subdued. I also accept that the universe has some element of randomness, which makes approaching way easier. The reason why you got a cold approach shutdown, in a lot of cases, has nothing to do with you. There are a billion random logistical/personal circumstances that can get in the way of her and you getting together. That’s just the hard reality of cold approach.

      It’s not always your ‘game’ that ruins things. Or your looks.

      I’ll still go ahead and plug getting buff and getting to low bodyfat. All of that ‘state building’ stuff I had to do early on is gone. I’m always in a good state. My abs show, I have a good amount of muscle, and my T is super high. So I’m pretty much never sad — especially about this shit.

    • Hunter says:

      😀 Nice Wish I could say more, at work.

  12. There is truth to the assertion about boldness. Chicks generally just don’t know how to react properly, especially given the recent (last 15 years or so) influx of nearly Omega-personified “hipster” idiots. Boldness even with stupidity beats meekly sitting on the sidelines, as the article suggests. Real life has shown this to be true in so many instances.

  13. Rudolph says:

    You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.

  14. anus says:

    just make sure you look like francisco lachowski and say the same line with a nice smile: 100% guaranteed success rate

  15. cheesetrader says:

    Apropos of nothing – just a tidbit to share in the department of “women see what they want to see”

    I’m out for a drink with my 23 yo fwb last night. We’re talking about roommates from hell in our pasts.

    I lean back and say something about one from 1987 and she goes “That was before I was born”

    I look at her and say “Are you sure you’re cool enough to date a man who’s 50?”

    She replies “Nope. You’re 34 in my mind. That’s what I see”

    Much fun later on as she proved herself to me yet again.

    And yes, I really am 50 and blessed to live in a college town

    • NMH says:

      How much did you say she weighs?

    • Reco says:

      Like that story…and I can use that line and will.

      • Cheesetrader says:

        Please do…her response is what’s important – in HER mind, I was 34 and thus “safe to date” even tho she knew I was 50 when we started going out 5 months ago. She, like any woman, will make up any excuse possible to acheive their ends – like living with a drug addict who’ll “change” or a wife beater or whatever.

        I’m guessing you’re around my age? If so, here’s another one to keep handy…for the dreaded age shit test.

        Chick: “How old are you, 50? You’re as old as my dad!”

        You: “Hey – you’re good at math. Okay – here’s a tough one – what’s 50 + 19?”

        She’ll answer 69 (or at least should if she’s not totally brain dead)

        The key is whether or not she blushes when she answers that – if she does, then you go with “You’re such a pervert – you have to buy me a drink first”. If she doesn’t blush, just say “You win a gold star. Such a good girl”

        It’s hard to remember sometimes, that men our age have some distinct advantages over the Ed Hardy hordes. We’ve decades of experiences to share and hopefully, some level of sophistication. It continues to amaze me how many young women whinge about how “immature and stupid boys are” – and how much of an opening that is for us – the ways to demonstrate higher value are myriad.

      • Reco says:

        @cheese thanks man. Yes I am in that age range and a new red pill consumer. And you are right about the complaints I have heard about boys and their inability to actually relate to women. Or to just not act like a woman themselves.

      • YaReally says:

        I like to stare them down with hard laser eye-contact and (slowly moving forward into her space if we’re standing) in a low serious sexual tone with a slight half-grin say “And are you…intimidated, by older men…” (periods and commas to represent the way I pause to build emphasis/tension lol check those Liam Mcrae Rapid Escalation vids I always link) and just stare her down till she blushes and answers.

        Has never gotten me anything but extremely good responses. Just sent a 23yo fuckbuddy home and pulled 20yo’s with my 30yo buddy a few weeks back.

        I like this one because while it’s a challenge just like “are you cool enough”, it has a bonus of adding a sexual qualifying tone to things VS a fun qualifying tone. I actually often use this as a springboard to switch gears from flirty/fun to sexual/intent, it’s part of why I don’t shy away from (and sometimes actually instigate) age conversations.

      • cheesetrader says:

        @Ya – like that a ton – will give it a shot next time out. Several have said flat out that they are intimidated by my being “mature”, etc – duh – of course – use that. Thanks

        You’re correct – the age thing can be a ton of fun – esp if we set out to make the girl either too young (do you even have a driver’s license?) or too old (!)

        @Reco – welcome to our corner of the world. Let me guess – survivor of an Eat Pray Love divorce like me? You’ll likely find the hardest habit to kick is being “nice” – learn to say “no” to women all.the.time. Literally as often as possible – and it’s easy to do if you tell them the counter. Example – she says “Let’s meet at 8″ – you say “NO – make it 830″. “Let’s sit here” “No – we’re going to sit over there”, etc. Does 3 things – a) demonstrates leadership by showing YOU are in charge B) keeps you from putting her on a pedastel and c) it’s chickcrack – boys and nice guys don’t say “no” to a girl.

      • Reco says:

        I had a response but it has been eaten by the anti-reco-posting gods. Maybe it will show up.

    • JohnDSee says:

      The ‘that was before I was born’ line is indicative of a half-wit. The same idiots will say that if you tell them that ‘Goodfellas’ is one of your favorite movies. As if it has anything to do with the point. WW2 happened before they were born too. Just another idiotic semi-shit test.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        That sort of stuff annoys me too, because right you are, it has nothing to do with anything, just some throw away line as if to dismiss one’s current ignorance… and treating anything not within one’s immediate ken as unimportant… the mark of a true philistine/dumbass.

    • Eliezer Ben-Yehuda says:

      well, Cheesetrader….. you forgot to mention….. Mick Jagger is old enough to be your father – but he’s currently pulling chix that are young enough to be your grand-daughter.

      He’s NOT tall….. he’s NOT handsome…. and no one actually claims that he has a troy ounce of musical or singing talent.

      double-X’s be double-X’s, is what it is.

  16. Question for the gang here,

    This may be a hopeless situation, but bear with me, and I’d appreciate the best advice you have.

    Split with an ex a few months ago now. I had sent out a picture in a group text, not realizing their responses would also send to each other. The picture was nothing dirty, but it was sent to a few of my girls, including my favorite, the one this post is about.

    She flipped. Accused me of cheating, even though I never made things official with her, and so on. Wouldn’t even talk to me for a while. We talked after a while, nothing ground-breaking, though. I was totally aloof with this girl all the time. She told me she loved me, and all that stuff.

    We had another phone conversation more recently where she asked me if I had sex with other girls while she and I were talking and I said yes (stupid). That was pretty much it for her, it seems. We spoke briefly after that, but I’ve singed been blocked from her Facebook, snapchat, and she deleted my phone number. Apparently she’s dating someone too.

    It seems like this one is lost, to me. I went back and read the old CH ex-girlfriend post and this seems to tell the tale of a woman detached.

    She told me she wanted to, “feel loved for a change.”

    • JironGhrad says:

      Too much aloof. Girls need “some” reassurance that they aren’t being used. Even (especially) if they are. Pack it up and find another.

      • thrust says:

        that’s right jiron.

        i made a point of not telling the ex/fb that i’ve fucked around – i knew if i did.. it’s just too aloof. she’ll give up.

        the beta ratio post about a week ago would have worked in your favour.

      • YaReally says:

        Yup. I do the opposite of thrust in that I admit to girls I’m with that I see other girls like you did, but the reason it works for me is that when that girl is with me I make her feel like the specialist little flower in the world who’s more important than the other girls (because I actually like my fuckbuddies lol, I don’t keep around girls I’m not actually into where I’d have to fake genuinely caring about them)…so I hit the same balance that a guy who’s aloof and then hides that he sees other girls hits.

        This is EXTRA vital when you have an LTR girlfriend and want to bang around…she has to always feel like she’s your Primary and more special than the other girls.

        So there’s two options for handling it, but whichever way you go you have to balance it out. Your chick freaked because like the other guys said you didn’t make her feel reassured that she wasn’t just a piece of random meat to you like the other girls.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      Good on this chick.

      She opened her heart to you, and, in return, you defecated on her.

      And you wonder why there are so many broken-souled chicks out there with The Darkness in their hearts.

      Well, if you’re an anti-natalist, which is to say, a nihilist, then it’s one less high-quality oven that you’ll ever get a chance to put any buns in.

      • Reservoir Tip says:

        Yeah, I realize I messed up on this one.

        High IQ, platinum blonde little thing.

      • Amy says:

        You could possibly get her back, but you’d have to be open to a monogamous RL. It’s a tricky period, post-sex and pre “official” status, girls will assume monogamy even though they know they probably shouldn’t. We can’t help how we feel, though. I would have reacted the same way she did.

      • thrust says:

        mine’s not – hence why i’m still plowing

      • Will says:

        What type of reassurance are we talking about though?

        Taking her out to dinner?

        Or saying I like you etc

    • gunslingergregi says:

      was the favorite the one you broke up with?

      but if the girl told you she loved you and feels like were cheating and being a sneaky fucker behind her back then getting back with her might become a living hell she will make you pay for that shit

      if there was never a time exclusivity was talked about I would say a chance to let her feel like she broke you in a way by talking exclusive

      what do you want with this chick?
      seems to me long term if you want to have a chick you got to have a plan for her long term on her role in your life

      if she flipped you can prob get her back if ya wanted I would think

      • Reservoir Tip says:

        Yeah she was the favorite.

        I never talked exclusivity with her. She just assumed it because she was in love with me (and I sort of said it back).

        As I mentioned, apparently she’s dating someone now. Doubt it’s anything serious.

        CH was right about how quickly a girl can totally turn off all her feelings towards a guy.

  17. KungPao says:

    Hey I need a neg for a chick who only fucks black guys. She’s obviously not marriage material but is bang worthy and whenever her faggy orbiters make a move on her she isn’t like “I ONLY SUCK BLACK!” but is more like “I’m sorry , I don’t go for white guys.”

    To me, this challenge is on par with seducing a lesbian (hot kind, not dyke). What would be a good retort to batter away her racial preferences? To me it’s kind of like ‘I have a boyfriend’ but with a racial element. I’d like the CH’s crowd input.

    • Reservoir Tip says:

      Send her to the seminary and let her think about her errors and daddy issues.

      Seriously, it’s asking for a STD. Giving her any attention only validates her. She’s nothing and shouldn’t even be acknowledged.

    • ballocaust says:

      mudsharks neg themselves
      try “i’m the guy that makes you go back from black” or “i’ll pay for lil tyrone’s preschool”

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Turn away and walk… and don’t forget to knock the dust from your sandals.

      • thwack says:

        1. tell her you’re black from the waist down.

        2. Tell her you are on probation

        3. Give her a line of coke.

    • Pluviophile says:

      Why would you deign to stick your dick in a hole so vile?

      Are you White?

      • KungPao says:

        For the challenge of it. Obviously I would use a condom.

        Yes.

      • thrust says:

        ywa, thwack’s right

        cock n’ coke.

        and you better skullfuck her till she’s black in the eyes

      • thwack says:

        Its white girl game. Its a shit test designed to filter out the white betas so she is only engaged by white alphas. In other words, its probably a lie; but because it works she uses it

        Depending on the venue some white girls will pretend they don’t know you.

      • Pluviophile says:

        its probably a lie

        Even if she’s faking reality the nature of her fraud is sufficient grounds for immediate dismissal with extreme prejudice.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Even if she’s faking reality the nature of her fraud is sufficient grounds for immediate dismissal with extreme prejudice.

        Exactly…

        These darkies are so delusional as to believe mudsharking (or any hint thereof) is some sort of shit test to attract a white alpha?

        That’s Beyond The Valley Of The LLZOZLZOLZOZLZOLZOZLZOLZOZLZLZOLZ.

        And any of you PUA wannabe dweebs that talk smack about coke and banging these sort of dreg sluts deserve all the virulent STDs your body can handle before succumbing to a slow death.

        Feh… you fairies.

      • thwack says:

        “Even if she’s faking reality the nature of her fraud is sufficient grounds for immediate dismissal with extreme prejudice.”
        ——————————————————————————————–

        And you look like a little bitch which is exactly what her shit test is designed to detect.and avoid

        Good job.

        What?

        is blk cock so scary you cant even joke about it?

        Thats like me freaking out everytime a white person uses the word “niggardly”.

        a weak bitch move

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Actually, it’s the constant muh-dik and lack of any sort of restraint when it comes to poosey that is a sign of weak masculinity.

        Banning and shunning was, until recent history, a very common and effective way of keeping deleterious tendencies in line within a community… it was said community’s first line of defense, a mechanism which served to protect the social and biological integrity of the group, and to dissuade individual miscreant inklings, which we all have from time to time.

        Do that in enough communities and a nation worth living in soon arises.

        But I wouldn’t expect you, snarky darky, to fully appreciate such realpolitik in microcosm.

    • gunslingergregi says:

      tell her she bein racist
      or ask her what happened when the white dude made her an alpha widow

      • gunslingergregi says:

        actually did have a chick say that at club while my girl was gone but yea it didn’t make me want to rise to any challenge I was just hitting on everything
        I said something like I cure that
        she said her drug dealin boyfriend was over there
        but yea ugly bitch not my type
        even the chick with the black twins never said no shit like that and she had a black husband type in jail
        so for a chick to say it out loud yea maybe it is a shit test or maybe it really is her now but for her to say it out loud and proud prob cry for help but who cares work with a bitch you can save if you are captain save a ho lol

    • The correct response is “eww” and walking away.

    • John South says:

      Shiver and make a face.

      When she asks what’s wrong say “sorry I just threw up in my mouth a little”

  18. no says:

    Plausible for stacking openers.

    Off topic: I looooled at this one: http://jezebel.com/5969902/dear-dudes-here-are-five-reasons-why-you-dont-need-a-dating-coach

    And a heads up for all you anti-estblishment types out there: Anita Hill has another new book out: http://electwomen.com/2014/06/thanking-anita-hill/

  19. Reco says:

    Women Scream During Orgasm Because Humans Are By Nature Promiscuous

    “Researchers have discovered that women moan during sex in primate species that are promiscuous.

    In spite of the obvious dangers of predators discovering and attacking you while you’re vulnerable, scientists say it’s an evolutionary biological reason.

    It’s now been proven across all cultures that women are vocal leading up to orgasm but only in the primate species where females are promiscuous does this occur.

    For example, in gorillas, the females are monogamous and therefore not vocal during copulation.

    Why is moaning and screaming during sex beneficial to women biologically? Researchers have determined that a woman will vocalize to attract more males to copulate with her when the current male is done.

    This behavior of mating with more than one male at a time supports sperm competition. The more males a woman copulates with, the higher probability she’ll conceive a healthy offspring.

    To further underscore this reproduction imperative, scientists have confirmed that male sperm has biologically evolved to fertilize an egg in an environment where it’s mixed with ejaculate from other males. Sperm have different counter measures, including killer sperm, designed to kill other male sperm. The penis is also designed to scrape out competitive sperm after ejaculating as the penis is pulled out of the vagina.

    Female humans are fundamentally a polyamorous (love many) species biologically designed to have sex with multiple males when they’re aroused.

    Dr. Helen Fisher says that in her cross-cultural research, the majority of women and men are both promiscuous throughout their lives. If cultural norms for monogamy were not established, most humans would have a series of primary relationships for child rearing and companionship combined with a series of shorter term sexual relationships.

    Dr. Fisher estimates that a majority of people are married and having serial affairs over the years, even if they don’t tell anyone about it. She believes this is the normal biological way humans actually live.”

    So there is a reason that marriage is such a miserable and failed institution. It never worked even when people only lived into their twenties and needed each other for their very survival and now the thought of living with the same woman for 50+ years is truly a depressing conclusion. So that long term marriage is the deviancy not the norm.

    • ballocaust says:

      face –> pillow or gags great for this reason. “ain’t no dick here but diz one so shaddup about it, i have neighbors”

    • blindman says:

      interesting. does that mean screamers are more likely to be slutty and promiscuous while the quiet ones tend to be more faithful and devoted to their partner? sounds like it. that’s some good screening material right there.

    • gunslingergregi says:

      maybe it is to help flip that maniacal switch in a dude into bringing the pain

      you ever screamed when you got really fucking emotional about something and it was the last resort and felt the power of that?

    • Stable relationships for raising children is what makes civilization happen. Take that away, and things start to go haywire. This is a prime motivator of the unrestrained female mind. Give them the vote, and low and behold, we get policy after policy weakening civilization by making the state take the role of provider male.

      This frees the woman to be promiscuous with high-t alpha males while getting financial support from taxpayers. Look at the inner cities of the US for what this leads to. Alpha Fucks , Beta Bucks in action.

      This is good for unattached single men looking to get laid. It is bad for civilization and we’ll be seeing quite the pendulum swing backwards. Many European places are getting it good and hard from the muslim invaders.

      Unless the vote in the US is restricted to men age 30 and over (not going to happen until society crashes) – there is nothing anyone can do to stop this cycle. Voting for conservative or tea-party types may slow it down, but the die has been cast.

    • Amy says:

      “Female humans are fundamentally a polyamorous (love many) species biologically designed to have sex with multiple males when they’re aroused.”

      Oh come on. You know that’s not true.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Right?

        The internet can become a tiresome place when every swingin’ Richard can post his shtick and try to give it legs as a nat’chell fact.

      • Knowbody says:

        1 in maybe 100,000 couples are sole lovers. Meaning they pair bonded once with each other and that was it. That’s pretty good evidence.

        I wonder how many BJs the average woman gives in her life…easily 7+, yes it matters because she’s giving her. 30+ dongs is pretty common for a carousel girl. Without social constraints, yes, yes humans revert to primal urges i.e. carousel and cad lives. They’re not banging mass dudes cuz it’s COOL and trendy…they just relinquish all shame which IS an actual social construct, a valuable one at that.

        Libs and retard fems want to remove shame in every act. Except building a family and respecting+loving a man of course, to them that’s shameful.

        Libtards and progs love to call anything that’s a “social construct” downright evil that must be stomped out. Isn’t feminism a social construct? If it weren’t for big bad social constructs we’d be crushing skulls with rocks over the rights to a local watering hole

      • Knowbody says:

        Also, the universal multiple orgasm could support this..incentive for CONSTANT BANGFESTS haha

  20. no says:

    Interesting article on cold reading: http://www.psychicscience.org/coldread.aspx

  21. eofahapi. says:

    Re. twitter update about global photo shop on the woman.

    Among European, the differences are minor.

    The difference I find most interesting is the USA one. They have made the woman look of mixed ethnicity. She had asian eyes. Even the asian/arab countries did not make look different race, but USA did.

    • eofahapi. says:

      http://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/global-beauty-standards .

      Scroll down to USA one. That is one of the most insane passive agressive racist against white people thing. Compare that USA one to the Asian ones.

      • eofahapi. says:

        They have also taken fat from her face, and narrowed her face making it less estrogen round and more masculine angular. They have up turned the eyes. (It is not possible such dramatic effect with make up). They have give more square chin.

        Can you say, propaganda? 🙂 .

  22. Ronin says:

    I see that Heartiste’s take was suspiciously absent from this Vox piece.

    http://www.vox.com/2014/6/24/5823972/how-dates-got-so-complicated

    Too bad they asked that kooky hookingupsmart lady.

  23. cryo says:

    OT: Regarding the “Laughter At the Gates of Hell” tweet…fuck, I don’t even know what to say. I just spit on my carpet in disgust.

    Can’t wait until real class warfare breaks out between the SWPLs and the muds. It should be amusing to watch the weak whytes getting forcibly sodomized by strap-on equipped ghetto queens. I may even stray from the pool to take pictures.

    • Tilikum says:

      it was glorious…

    • Greg Eliot says:

      I can’t get the video to load… what’s it all about, Alfie?

      • gunslingergregi says:

        black heavy chick and noather chick beating on two black dudes with help of another dude
        they were kind of clowning
        former cop buddy of mine in Iraq said all ya got to do is punch em in stomach when they going crazy and they immediately stop
        but yea I could turn that bitch into a purring kitten
        he he he

  24. Cortesar says:

    OT but it deserves the place in the hole of shame of human infamy

    ————————————————————————————————-
    Dear Gentlemen of the ADL:

    I am deeply remorseful that comments I recently made in the Playboy Interview were offensive to many Jewish people. Upon reading my comments in print—I see how insensitive they may be, and how they may indeed contribute to the furtherance of a false stereotype. Anything that contributes to this stereotype is unacceptable, including my own words on the matter. If, during the interview, I had been asked to elaborate on this point I would have pointed out that I had just finished reading Neal Gabler’s superb book about the Jews and Hollywood, An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews invented Hollywood. The fact is that our business, and my own career specifically, owes an enormous debt to that contribution.

    I hope you will know that this apology is heartfelt, genuine, and that I have an enormous personal affinity for the Jewish people in general, and those specifically in my life. The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God’s voice, and surely are the chosen people.

    I would like to sign off with “Shalom Aleichem”—but under the circumstances, perhaps today I lose the right to use that phrase, so I will wish you all peace

    –Gary Oldman.

    • ballocaust says:

      “..and surely are the chosen people”

      he was trolling

    • Greg Eliot says:

      He’ll seldom work in that town again… lozolzozlzolzolzozlzol.

      Maybe he and Mel can set up their own production company and be content with the theaters Down Under.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Geez, Louise… has a tail ever been positioned deeper between legs?

    • Eliezer Ben-Yehuda says:

      Now imagine that the people who believe that they DESERVE to run the country read the Washington Post and the NY TImes – but the people who ACTUALLY ARE running the country read the Wall Street Journal and the Zurich newspapers.

      If you comprehend that, you will comprehend that the guys running the ADL and other rackets which suck money from upper-middle-class Reform Jew dentists in Portland, OR are the ones who complain about anti-semitism.

      Whereas the Jews who ACTUALLY RUN Hollywood are too busy crying their way to the bank….. in between schtupping the 19-year-olds wannabe-starlets who wouldn’t give Zombie Shane the time of day.

      • Cortesar says:

        Who is running things is a historical category and as such subject to change
        Sometimes things are so wild they run themselves, sometimes thy are run by evil people with mustaches
        You should have learned that by know

    • Rick Derris says:

      I think the ADL should worry about important things like the millions of Muslims who want to kill the Jews instead of spending time on something that Gary Oldman said.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Doesn’t the fact that there’s more of a brouhaha over things said by an actor in a magazine convince you that those (ahem) forerunners who are allegedly too busy schtupping whoring starlets know that an awakened white public is far more dangerous than a million screeching ragheads across the ocean?

        These alleged tempests in teapots give a glimpse behind the facade, for those with eyes to see.

        And remember this the next time some Yiddler comes to the chateau to neener-neener about goyim paranoia and mental illness in re the-tribe-whose-name-we-dare-not-speak.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        The fact that they DO worry (oh, how they worry!) over mere words on this side of the ocean means they don’t have to worry about the screeching rag-tags on the other side.

        Ever hear the expression “guard the pennies and the dollars guard themselves?”

    • Cortesar says:

      Spineless weasel has just labeled himself a_hole
      How further can an asshole go in defecating all over himself

  25. Trolladour says:

    I know a guy that learnt about game in his mid to late 30′s.
    He read Game related books, studied and went to NLP courses and had been to Game related seminars.
    He would regularly approach attractive looking women, despite his very average looks and from time to time get a number and then set up a date.
    Despite this; he rarely got past the first date.
    The bravado of his initial approach soon wore off and the women were able to quickly work out what sort of a man/character he really was.
    His “Game” was generally based on outer confidence and “tricks” but lacked depth. He refused or didn’t work on his character and personality flaws and was soon found out. He also stubbornly refused to add value to his “look” by spending money on decent clothes etc.

    Stupid or poor game can only get you so far and at the very least will be a frustrating and time wasting exercise.

    [CH: #coolstorytwat]

    • Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh says:

      “Stupid or poor game can only get you so far and at the very least will be a frustrating and time wasting exercise.”

      Invest in yourself if you want others to invest in you.

    • Tdour says:

      Real life is stranger than fiction.
      Assume the troll if you will.

      • Tdour says:

        Ok; correction.
        The low proportion of dates he got versus number of approaches was usually with HB 4′s to 7′s at best.
        I troll you not.

  26. Tilikum says:

    my Zombie Shane read:

    mid to late 30′s, white, married. lives in the small town south and grew up religious.

    solid mom (where all the bun/oven pedestaliztion comes from) but dad probably left when he was young (thats why he is here, natural skill but no teaching)

    the Jew and Frankfurt school obsession lends to deep tribal nature, last name IRL probably northern Euorpean, likely german/French/English.

    how’d i do?

    • Greg Eliot says:

      I say he’s younger, not yet married, not overly religious in upbringing, but perhaps a bit more than the service-on-Easter-and-Christmas crowd.

      As far as your Cathedralesque shaming attempts (e.g., “obsession”), well… I guess you could say Christ was obsessed with Satan… and vice versa.

      Then again, it is apparently your ox getting gored.

      Anyway, better to be “obsessed” with a threat than to merely mention it in passing and then hope it goes away of its own accord… one never knows when the right audience will come along “with ears to hear” as it were.

    • Eliezer Ben-Yehuda says:

      white folks in Small Town South are more likely to be Christian Zionist than Jew-o-phobes.

      We get them in Samaria every autumn. There’s a bible verse about how they should specifically go help the grape harvest.

      They work as well as the hired-help Thailanders guys do, and there’s no danger that they will turn your Companion Canine into a barbeque during the Thai Queen’s Birthday festival.

      Seriously, keep your pets indoors when Thai guys break out the booze.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      Your cuz tried to warn y’all about that shit:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_projection

      LOL’ed.

    • yeahokcool says:

      i both agree and disagree with your assessment of zs. certainly white. almost certainly of northern european descent and 35-40 years in age. however, i seriously doubt he is married or has children. he is too pathologically obsessed/optimistic about both to have ever experienced either. real life with a wife and kids ain’t that rosy, brah (although, in theory, i certainly agree that it is important to have kids and, for most dudes, to get married at least once). i agree that he lives in small town south, though. probably a college town with a more progressive/liberal population. this college town is very possibly where he went to college. likely very intelligent and bookish during his college years. however, he likely had some sort of psychotic break around the age of 25 and has struggled to live a normal life since then. as time has gone along, his paranoia and obsessions have only worsened. as i suggested above, i think his zealotry has likely driven away those close to him (they may not understand or appreciate that he has a mental disorder) so he is relatively isolated from his immediate family. he does not work.

  27. Joe Sixpack says:

    Oft-Topic, but totally On-Topic for the Hypergamy Cuckold wing of the Chateau.

    “This Is What Happens When An NBA Champ Crashes Your Bachelorette Party”

    “What better way to spend your final moments as a single lady than in the arms of a hunky, NBA champion?

    One bride-to-be lived that dream when San Antonio Spurs power forward Boris Diaw crashed her bachelorette party in Lake Travis, Texas and then planted a big fat kiss on her cheek.

    Her friend posted a picture of the momentous occasion to Reddit Tuesday and gave a little explainer as to how the whole thing happened (CONTINUED…):

    LINK: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/25/boris-diaw_n_5530757.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

    • cryo says:

      Odds there’s a future basketball-American bun in her oven: EXCELLENT

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Heh, heh… the engagement’s off… beyotch!

      • Cortesar says:

        Poor idiot deserves all humiliation
        Is there such a thin as a rehab facility for learning spelling of dignity
        D-I-G-N-I-T-Y
        —————————————————————————————————-
        The Anti-Defamation League was unimpressed by Oldman’s apology for defending Mel Gibson’s past anti-Semitic comments.

        “We have just begun a conversation with his managing producer,” said Abraham H. Foxman, national director of the ADL. “At this point, we are not satisfied with what we have received. His apology is insufficient and not satisfactory.”

        Foxman amplified those remarks on Wednesday: “While his apology may be heartfelt, Mr. Oldman does not understand why his words about Jewish control were so damaging and offensive, and it is therefore insufficient.”

        “His reference to the Neal Gabler book he was reading only reinforces the notion that Jewish directors, producers and financiers are there in Hollywood as Jews. They’re not, and the book does not draw that conclusion. They are there acting as individuals. They do not pursue a Jewish agenda or strategy. They are there acting as professionals and Americans with skills working alongside many other non-Jews who are also in show business for the same reasons.”

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Oy! Mr. Oldman seems to have hit a nerve even rawer than usual.

        It’s a good thing there’s no “Jewish agenda” and both Hollywood Jew and Gentile are alike merely “Americans with skills” plying an honest trade…

        Otherwise, can you IMAGINE the shitstorm that would have arose?

        And so we go back to our regular program schedule… tonight’s features: Monumental Menschen, Glorious Basturds, and The Life And Times of Adrian Brody.

    • Nicole says:

      The tone of that story amazed me. The Huff post acted like what she did was NORMAL and PRAISEWORTHY. I hope we get a follow up story of how her husband to be dumped her….perhaps thankful that he dodged that bullet.

    • 55 degrees says:

      The funny part would be if she started yelling, “Boris!! Boris!!” on her wedding night…

  28. ideological phantasmagoria says:

    Zombie Shane, interesting you should post a scene from the Graduate, a seminal Zionist film, Jew-lionizing, family-undermining, anti-Christian and, of course, sacrilegious.

    When analyzing movies it is helpful to remember the rule that “the scene/film ends when it has made its point.” Observe, the Graduate ends when the Jew has destroyed the Christian sacrament of marriage and barred the doors to the church with its own symbols. And when the Jew has subverted the shicksa.

    TL;DR The Graduate was a seminal 60s movie in that established anti-family, ant-Christian sacrilege and Jewish triumphalism as boilerplate in modern Hollywood movie-making.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      DUDE!

      Did you think I wasn’t aware of that?

      Did you see how quickly it got an uber-serious reply out of Talmudikum?

      “The Graduate” is like a frigging Gospel [Matthew, Mark, Luke, John – take your pick] to the Frankfurt School.

    • Promethean says:

      Why are we in Decline – Cultural Marxism.

  29. Rum says:

    The main fact that inhibits my impulse towards offering life-advice to random strangers is that I personally have benefited from insane amounts of raw, brute-force, good luck.
    My parents were both rich and good looking. My first giirlfriend nearly fainted with joy.when we first got naked.
    Facts are facts…

  30. gunslingergregi says:

    my dad might just be alpha
    he in hospital for some heart shit
    my chick and I walk in she sees him asleep in bed starts crying talking bout she don’t like seeing him like that
    he is to good to be like that
    he he he
    but yea I wake him up hugs all around
    talk for a bit doc’s come in and I tell my chick to give him some privacy
    but yea she gone for a while
    I go outside she smoking got a worlds greatest dad balloon and a card for me to sign and some snacks and such he likes
    down to the most minute detail everything was geared specifically for my dad to cheer him up
    it was pretty impressive the level of caring that went into it
    when we left she told him she loved him
    I really appreciated having my chick today
    even told her I loved her first

  31. Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh says:

    “Offensive” = Tingly

    • Promethean says:

      The reply by the black chick at the end was actually LOL worthy.

    • Isaac Asstomouf says:

      lol the poor brow-beaten herb dad @1:58. Daddy’s little angel has probably brought home so many nogs that he’s desperate to get her any white guy.

  32. Hilary Clinton says:

    Dzeko=AA102

  33. […] I know this guy whose pickup technique is to go up to a woman and, with a little bit of excitement in his voice, ask “Can I have your autograph? You’re [Katy Perry], right?  […]

  34. thwack says:

    OK, time for another thwack pro tip.

    Aint nobody talkin when Im talkin so STFU.

    Now,

    You wanna ask a girl out but you dont know what to say?

    Its real simple; ask her to be your date to a wedding. If she’s juggling balls, she will accept because all girls like weddings.

    Dont get too wordy and over think it; leave the details out and by the time she finds out there is no wedding she should be attracted to other things about you.

    As per the regular I never give a suggestion I ain’t already tried myself.

    This works to get you in the door; after that its up to you.

    Good luck.

  35. TheBrain says:

    Are your panties made out of stars? ‘Cause your pussy looks like it’s out of this world.

  36. Hunter says:

    Shitty text game, take two. Practicing YaReally’s way to practice texting. She sends first message.

    OKCupid –

    Her: you had me at fight club.

    Me: shhh looks like you forgot the first rule 😉 how ya doing there lady

    Her: :X

    i’m doing just fine. a bit tired but enjoying @midnight before bed.

    yourself, sir?

    Me: ah i see what you’re doing. can’t tuck you in yet sorry 😉

    I’m actually working on my body posture, have a pretty bad back. Must’ve been all the fights. Self-improvement’s pretty important to me.

    What about you, any special talents? Hopes, dreams?

    Her: Haha I guess my tricks don’t work on you

    I don’t think I have any one talent I’m more of a Jack of trades. I can carry a tune and I enjoy drawing but I think a lot of what in good at are soft skills – reading people, talking, etc

    Me: A girl with that many talents certainly has other tricks up her sleeve 😉 lol I do marketing at a startup. Not the most glamorous job, but a lot of psychology involved. Trying to get into advertising in a month. Do you actually dance or did you just list that in your hobbies to sound like a badass?

    Her: by dance i mean i go out to Y (or X if forced) and get hammered and and do my best not to embarrass myself. i have been known to back-bend on a few occasions, though… and for a white girl i like to think i’m not terrible at wining.

    Me: AHA is that a challenge I hear? Bring it, I’ll take you down anytime. Also back-bend sounds like a very uncomfortable position, not sure what kind of dancing you’re doing lol

    I’ve been to Wrigley quite a bit… how have I not seen you out? Unless you were that hammered blonde chick who pushed me randomly, that wasn’t you was it

    Her: no. no challenge. i’d lose. i’m confident, not cocky.

    back bending is not uncomfortable when you’re flexible.

    and i don’t THINK i’ve pushed anyone but i’ve been hammered out there a lot so it’s quite possible. i go to (list of places) i try to avoid deuces/douches and barleycorn as much as possible.

    Me: We could try X

    Maybe i’ll just watch you dance since you’re flexible.

    damn it, scrambling my civilized mind over here. I’m a bad guy

    Her: Hahaha I won’t blame you for that one, I led you into it.

    Although maybe we should try one drink out first before moving on to watching me dance? Lol

    Me: Ugh why am I so aroused, I feel like you’re bringing this outta me

    Her: My baaaad

    Me: Lies. I read your mind. You’re thinking about me spinning it like a helicopter right now. I’m not a piece o meat!

    Her (next day): Def just laughed out loud on the red line. #points

    Yeah it sucked, obviously. Just tell mer where I started spiraling into her qualifying me as a provider/chasing beta.

    • immoralgables says:

      Hunter – Nice work brother. A couple pointers.

      1) Have a goal in mind. Ya like sure you want to develop rapport, qualify the girl a bit, joke and what not but keep pushing towards the meet up. It’s also good to screen for logistics so on tinder for example I’ll sometimes say something like “So where in the city do ya live or are you tindering me from the safety of your parents basement?”

      a. It usually gets them laughing and I find out how far away they are so when it comes time to setup a meetup, I can pick a spot that’s convenient for both of us.

      2) Find out whether she is open to meet up. Just ask if they’ve met anyone through online before or you can tell a couple stories of experiences you had. You want to sift out the boyfriend hunters, attention seekers from the girls who are open to meet.

      3) It’s cool to let the interaction go sideways but after a bit I shift gears and go for it. Just have a go to line that you can use to take the pressure off. Mine is usually like “Welp assuming you’re not a serial killer it seems like we could get along. We should meet up later in the week for something simple- like drinks. Let me know how that sounds.”

      4) Boom keep it moving from there.

      I actually typed up a transcript of a cutie I got off tinder where I convey a lot of this. I’m down to share with you I’ll just email it from my dummy gmail account ([email protected]) Setup a dummy one as well. I’d post it on the board but it’s a bit lengthy.

      • Hunter says:

        Invited her to my place, got a shit test, help!

        Her: wooooow moving straight to inviting me to your place

        you don’t waste time. what makes you think i’m that kinda girl?

        Uhhhmmmm, yeah guys any suggestions lol

        Agree and amplify buuuuut ummmmm… there’s a free tour so I gotta head out.

        Thanks Immoral, will reply in full tomorrow. Need to get me a fake addy

      • gunslingergregi says:

        Her: by dance i mean i go out to Y (or X if forced) and get hammered and and do my best not to embarrass myself. i have been known to back-bend on a few occasions, though… and for a white girl i like to think i’m not terrible at wining”””””

        god dam does the media fuck with our heads since when can white people actually not dance
        I go to black side of club I make those bitches dance

      • gunslingergregi says:

        whaaaa meee?
        that kind of girl
        I just want you to come over and help me fix this broken pipe I need you to hold the light
        the anti slut crap everyone talks about over and over he he he

    • newlyaloof says:

      YaR will school you I’m sure, but I believe you didn’t sexualize fast or good enough and you tried to make her laugh more then make her cum. Texts way too long too. I remember reading YaR’s archive and how badass his texts and hypothetical convos at bars were. Always stearing the conversation to the sexual.

      Knowing this, the first thing I thought of that you could have said was:

      Her: you had me at fight club.

      Me: I love that movie. Wear a skirt, come over and we’ll watch it.

      If she objected to that, it would have saved you a lot of typing knowing off the bat she wasn’t DTF.

  37. Greg Eliot says:

    Looks like I stepped on a toe in the big chateau… all my posts beyond two lines are now going into automatic moderation… sigh.

    If that’s not a purposeful move by one of the moderators, let’s just say this forum software needs some serious debugging.

    • thwack says:

      What color are you?

    • Rum says:

      Greg
      Why not try writing your comments in another language, like Urdu or old Gaelic? The filtering programs and human moderators would instantly be rendered helpless when it came to censoring bad words and thoughts.

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