Heh.
Any straight white man who votes for Grandma Hillary, aka the wife of Monica Lewinsky’s ex-boyfriend, in 2016 for any reasons other than as a principled objection to the current GOP de Meximerica ideological configuration or to hasten the end of Poz-Americana needs to have his balls extracted from their nesting spot against his ovaries.
In the meantime, smearing leftoid men with the “low-T” label is effective COPROP that could, at the margins, convince a few pansy-assed equalists to rethink their self-immolation and even more to slink away in embarrassed silence. The virtue of this low-T slander strategy is that it’s true, which means you don’t need a supplicant media machine to help elevate your charges to accepted wisdom. Your targets will autonomically wince with self-aware pain, because they’ve been living with their effeminacy for decades, and are all too familiar with their personal shortcomings in the testicular department.
Prediction: If Hillary Rodham is the nominee, she will receive the lowest percentage of white male votes in the history of the Democrat party. And it won’t matter. Election outcome will be the same. Madam President.
THE FALL OF THE HOUSE OF CLINTON – Victor Davis Hanson – http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3283528/posts
VDH: “The family’s Nietzschean creed is that any scandal that does not kill off their careers makes a Clinton stronger. Despite the dozen or so ethical scandals that will inevitably arise over the next two years, Hillary Clinton will be nominated by the Democrats and has at least a 50/50 chance of being elected president.”
Well, they should survive because all of this Republican hype about scandals is phony. They have no intention of seeing these things through or putting someone in jail, it’s just cheap election politics. They have no intention of doing anything for the majority of their constituents, as they haven’t for the last fifty years. This acting as if it were still 1980 and pretending that such scandals matter while ignoring the tribal politics reality of the Empire is a con game aimed at those constituents, to take their minds off the fact that they are being screwed by Republican/Big Binness/Conservative leadership.
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/04/making-history-senate-gop-vote-with-obama-at-record-pace
@jb
+100
She’ll be an order of magnitude more competent than whatever clown the GOP chooses this time around. And she has already co-presidented anyways, if anybody hadn’t noticed.
I’ve always had a policy of voting mostly party-line Republican, except for President, where I vote third party.
“She’ll be an order of magnitude more competent”
Quite so, just look at her record. A suitable successor of the hyperintelligent lightworker.
Dennis Miller has a good joke about her, along the lines that everyone in America knows that Bill cheated on her, it was so apparent, even a blind person could see it.
I actually met one of these low-T manginas today. At the dog park, I asked someone why everyone has those throwing sticks, instead of just throwing their dog a ball with their arm. He said because it goes a lot further and proceeded to throw his dog’s tennis ball about 25 feet. I told him he could have done that with a normal throw. At that point he actually called himself a wimp.
Men nowadays can’t even throw a ball like a girl. It’s pathetic.
25 feet? That’s not even 10m, for a tennis ball? we are not speaking low-T or wimp here, only severe shoulder surgery can excuse this, I bet he could get some kind of handicap card/pension….hope he never play tug with his dog, he would loose both arms….
Great!
Instead of the Clintons growing the welfare/warfare state while destroying the family we can look forward to a republican doing it!
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The left doesn’t want Hillary. They’re throwing her out now so they can harpoon her (heh) publicly and make their real candidate look good.
Heh, heh… she’s probably still spitting nickels over 2008 and that magic negro.
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You deserve it you Bitch ass traitor red coat Benedict Arnold faggot.
Go tha fuck back to Africa.
The electoral math is dismal for Republicans: 242 guaranteed votes for the Democrat nominee. That’s what happens with 40+ years of open borders and giving money to the poor to breed more poor people.
Democrats are gleeful over this, but where this all ends, well… we all know the answer to that one.
I’m guessing there will be derision within their own, which is slowly starting to rear its ugly head. These guys build their house on sand and the floodgates are taking root.
… starting to rear its ugly head. These guys build their house on sand and the floodgates are taking root.
Floodgates don’t take root. They open.
Go easy on the metaphors (mixed or otherwise).
Yeah, and I think you mean dissension, not “derision”. But, I grok your sentiments,
TSW, people with political axes to grind figure out deceptive ways to present things. The reality is that more of our wealth is being sucked into the medical cartel. That has been the design of every reform since the beginning and obamacare is no exception to that rule. The question to ask is ‘did a greater percentage of GDP go to them?’ and the answer is yes.
Is your prediction: Madam President?
My armchair forecast:Old lady Clinton’s quasi-monarchical aspiration finds itself usurped by a tsunami of filth spewed forth by the Warren cloaca.
Cloaca lol
The shitty thing for the GOP (and therefore for (a) white men and (b) anyone with a job) is that all those seats that they won in 2010 in the Senate are up for re-election in ’16, when the Dem base will turn out for Hillz.
The only positive is that Hillz was “inevitable” last time, too. Hopefully she somehow faceplants, and we get a less-shitty Dem nominee….and that the GOP nominates a Responsible Adult, in case he wins.
Mistral, I’m a self-employed white man who works 50 hours a week, and I wouldn’t have health insurance if it weren’t for the Dems. At least not at an affordable rate. Know anybody else like me? Bring up healthcare and you might be surprised at what you hear.
Oh, so the spirit within is bought and paid for. Always suspected it; it’s nice to have it confirmed for the record.
The Spirit Within,
The government makes you feel safe, like a woman feels safe under the leadership and guidance of a strong man.
When you cuddle with a girl, are you the one whispering in her ear how safe you feel?
I have to say it again: You are a woman in psychology.
Not because I say you are, or, because I wish you to be, but because you are, in objective reality.
My insurance went up by 33% when ACA went into effect. Because we don’t subsidize the lazy class enough I guess.
How much of a copay did the emergency room charge to uncurl your toes, Strapon?
Hate in response to a man purchasing health insurance? You people are really strange. And clearly not self-employed.
It’s not the buying of health insurance that gets you your beat-downs, kid.
Always thought this Dimocrat obsession over health insurance to be rather weird.
Now they’re crowing that 0bamacare didn’t cost as much as projected… primarily because of the recession. Also, people are getting smart and trying to dump as little money into the greedy health care industry as they possibly can.
Always thought this Dimocrat obsession over health insurance to be rather weird.
Well, when you’re a bath house faggot who takes 20 cocks up the ass per night, having full coverage for the AIDS/GRID treatment regimen is a priority.
I went from a family HMO with no deductible to a family PPO with a $3000 deductible so my annual premiums would “only” go up 10%. If I had stayed on the HMO, it would have gone up 30% *and* gotten a $700 deductible. So Spirit, glad I can subsidize your self-employed state, bro.
TSW, if the republicans and democrats had not interfered with medical care for a century (starts with the Flexner report in 1910) you probably wouldn’t even need insurance and if you did it would have been at reasonable free market rates.
What the democrats did was keep the medical cartel’s appetite for more of our wealth going. That’s all the scheme did. Others are paying more so you can pay less but in the net the cartel is getting a greater share of every dollar earned in the country.
@ The Shit Within
I’ve been self employed for over 20 years, my premiums went up about 2% a year on average until the so called ACA came to, it then went to 10%. Glad you got your insurance on my dime though.
BTW, sucking cock in an alley doesn’t count as being self employed
Lots of misinformation here. Obamacare has been GOOD NEWS overall.
But don’t believe me: read this from Forbes magazine last October. Medical premiums slated to rise 4 to 6% n 2015. It was double-digits for the decade prior to the ACA. (Except for “MZ”, who has a magic program that was immune to the same inflation that everybody else was experiencing).
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2014/10/31/key-study-on-obamacare-2015-premium-rates-is-out-and-you-wont-believe-whats-going-to-happen/
Make sure you read to the end of the article before you let the hate flow.
Medical premiums slated to rise 4 to 6% n 2015. It was double-digits for the decade prior to the ACA. (Except for “MZ”, who has a magic program that was immune to the same inflation that everybody else was experiencing).
The reason premiums slowed their inflation was because of the recession.
Who knows: maybe without 0bamacare they would actually have gone down.
That’s why republicans recruited ted cruz.
Oh SJW within, you really are full of shit. There is nothing the gunvernment touches that doesn’t go to shit that includes health care. I know longer have a plan thanks to Obambi Care . I too am self employed. On another note there is no way that you work 50 hrs a week self employed and make a decent living while living here in the United State. 70+ is the norm. I know your response : selling Amway products doesn’t count.
I like asking obvious questions, so please give me your obvious answers: what does it benefit Granny Hils and her ilk to preside over the collapse of a previously functioning society? Do they think they’ll be spared the crumbling of civilisation behind their gated communities? Do they think that they can take everyone else’s guns and still have cop guns at their own behest and control? Do they honestly think this is going to result in some shitlib utopia instead of the obvious muddy collapse to the global mean? In short, why are they doing this?
They somehow think they’re going to survive in their gated communities, with private security staffed by non-whites (maybe ISIS jihadis returned from Syria), who for some strange reason will not slit their throats.
The Banality of Evil.
Every player at both low and high levels acts on immediate short term interests and only carries out a very small part of the overall program.
I’m sure there will be plenty of leftoids of the male [and I use that term loosely] persuasion who will be all too happy to wear the “low-T” label as a badge of (gay) pride.
I’m afraid you are exactly right about that.
I know your right about that. Having worked in IT in SF I assure you you are right. Any White Man with a trace of masculinity is repulsive to libs. They really do want all White Men to be faags.
Actually… they may say they do, but they don’t actually. (At least the higher-quality women.) Think of it as a sh!t-test.
T for Transgender. As in – LGBT …. L stands for Hillary.
These would probably be hits in San Francisco
“Low-T / Love T”
and
“HILLGBT”
Granted I wouldn’t vote for Hillary if she put a gun to my head…but the way this country has gone she would be the perfect president to put the nail in the coffin.
We will be standing in the ruins saying “I told you so,” but the surviving leftoids will still refuse to admit fault. They’ll change the subject instead. They’ll simply criticize us for being so uncouth as to blame them, since they “meant well.”
Or they’ll be telling us we didn’t “man up” to prevent it.
There will be no surviving leftoids. They will be dead at the hands of their messiah complex pets and white men with balls. Voting for Democrats to hasten the collapse and their extinction seems like a better idea every day.
https://instagram.com/bottomforhillary/
The End Is High
The problem with Hillary is…..who else would the Dems run? Do you really want Warren to be the next president?
File this under “be careful what you wish for”
Also, what if Hillary strokes out after a few months of high powered leadership? VP might be an interesting position for once.
I’m curious as to what you think about the rise of young right wing or right wing leaning people disgusted by the state of the modern left.
Gamergate has been force feeding red pills since it started, and a lot of people I know are now fully aware of the left wing media machine. Do you think there’s enough to make an impact?
I don’t know but it gives me hope.
I’d associate egg whites and long gym sessions with bodybuilding and homosexuality before I’d associate them with beta males.
Let’s stick to message and not pretend “beta” and “gay” mean the same thing. Betas are desperate for pussy and can’t get it. Homos, if they’re out of the closet, have pretty easy access to sex partners and therefore probably have better lives than betas.
Homos, if they’re out of the closet, have pretty easy access to sex partners and therefore probably have better lives than betas.
Right up until they get syphilis, gonorrhea, and/or AIDS.
Or their butts get so expanded the shit drips out of them and they have to wear diapers.
I usually get numbers from American source but I met this girl who watches french tv from France and I saw a news report that said gays in France are 16 times more likely to have aids/hiv than straight people
16 times more likely to carry a transmissible deadly disease…
how high must this number go before it is ok to be homophobic?
Call me paranoid, but I have the strongest suspicion that the plethora of “privacy” laws passed over the past two decades or so in re access to medical records and personal medical history is a trojan horse (no pun intended) filled with butt-bandits as yet another weapon against the West.
Heaven forfend they should bear the brunt and stigma of their loathsome diseases.
envy, porn gay actors have pretty happy lives (Topher Dimaggio, Peter Le, to name a few)
Do queer trolls live under rainbow bridges?
I saw a news report that said gays in France are 16 times more likely to have aids/hiv than straight people
One dirty little secret about the “remission” of the AIDS epidemic during the oughts: it’s because AIDS had burned through the gay Baby Boomers during the 1980s and 1990s, and then had to work through a smaller number of gay Gen Xers.
And now, surprise, AIDS is starting another uptick now that the Millennials are on the scene.
“how high must this number go before it is ok to be homophobic?”
CF, that train left 25 years ago. Back then it was ‘If God wanted to show the world he hates fags, surely he would have sent a disease to wipe half of them out….oh wait.’
Now it’s, ‘if God wanted to show the world he loves fags, surely he would have inspired a cure to save them from their latest plague….oh wait.’
“God”. Lol. Cracks me up when ppl who claim to be able to face the world as it really is still cling to an imaginary friend for comfort.
If God really existed he’d prove it to us atheists thus – he’d smite anyone who misunderstands jokes or quotation marks.
Their suicide and depression/anxiety rates seem disprove your statement.
Keep in mind at all times that man is filled not with humors, but ironies.
Lol. Well played.
KFC Hillary Clinton Meal Deal:
Two fat thighs and two small breast; $1.99
Even your homies wouldnt touch that white meat..
Interesting fact re. Grandma Hillary: She admitted she hasnt driven a car in 20 years… The Washington elite; a real woman of the people.
One less woman driver…
She doesn’t need to drive… her broom takes her wherever she wants to go.
And two left wings…
Women drivers : No survivors
A greasy box gag would have been the cherry on the cake.
i respectfully disagree. if republicans can’t win, we could do a whole hell of a lot worse than hillary. let’s cut through the partisan bullshit: 1) she’s barely a woman – her testosterone levels are through the roof; 2) she most likely isn’t a “true believer” in most/any “progressive” causes – she came from a conservative family (even volunteered for goldwater in her youth) and has only come around to various liberal talking points when she basically had no choice; 3) she doesn’t give a fuck about her base or, more importantly, about her democratic colleagues – if you think, even for a second, that this bitch is going allow those clowns to dictate her policy, you’re wrong. Basically, my position is that Hillary can be trusted moreso than her colleagues BECAUSE OF AND NOT IN SPITE OF her duplicitous, conniving nature.
yep. exacto.
She’s a shadow of her 90s sharp self. There are suspicions that she had a stroke. I, for one, look forward to four or eight years of Benghazi-style competence.
Anything is preferable to jeb bush.
She had a stroke? Not from Bill!
We can trust Hillary because we already know she’s corrupt?
Better the devil you know…
Looks like you’re in the Bargaining stage.
for clarity: i don’t want her to be president. i would much prefer most (but not all) of the potential republican candidates. however, in the realpolitik sense, i sincerely believe that hillary would be better than most (but not all) of the potential democratic candidates.
“Prediction: If Hillary Rodham is the nominee, she will receive the lowest percentage of white male votes in the history of the Democrat party. And it won’t matter. Election outcome will be the same. Madam President.”
It will matter. But only because black males will go “blah”. Hispanics males will go “no mas”. And women in general will cheer for the womenz club, but secretly hate her and think a women isn’t qualified for the job.
Look at the women of the West who have become “elected leader” in a major Western nation. They were all put there by the rightist party, which is always comprised of white males. Thatcher, Merkel, hell even Le Pen will win only on the strength of this bloc of MEN.
It is the hopeful herb of the right that always wants the other to see how awesome his position is if the other could but see past their race, religion,sex,etc. It’s why Repubs fail all the time. It’s why we haven’t revolted against unending immigration even though most of the country wants it halted.
No Hillary will most certainly lose BECAUSE white males will not vote for her.
Even a token sheep for slaughter Repub will not be enough to offset this. The great WOMAN hope of the future will come from the right, not left.
No Hillary will most certainly lose BECAUSE white males will not vote for her.
yes but then again a large portion of the white males are so feminized by the present culture that they will vote like women, and vote for a woman.
I hate to say it but I think Hillary will be the next President,
also because the main stream media – which let’s not kid ourselves is an arm of the left – and who helped Obama get elected has even more power now and is even bolder now and they will provide Hillary with free publicity and they will bash anyone on the right with made up scandals (if they can not find real ones)
and once in power just as Obama increased racial tensions, Hillary will increase ” gender” tensions.
I am glad I do not live in the USA as Hillary will surely give the feminists what they want; a government approved tyranny of white males like we’ve never seen.
Fingers point both ways at made-up scandals, dummy. It’s high-stakes politics. I presume you were alive for the Whitewater “scandal”.
I think we’ve already got in Canada, friend. Kathleen Wynne pushing gays and cross dressing sure ain’t helping anyways.
Shut the f*ck up strapon within
Shine bright like a diamond, Canadian Friend. Don’t hide that brilliance under a bushel.
Anyone who still believes there is a material difference between hillary bush or jeb clinton – or that getting to choose between one or the other plutocratic dynasties represents anything close to democracy – should have their reproductive organs removed at the very least.
I cant think of anything more beta than ignorantly standing in line like sheep holding up a vote for the most sadistic chirade our country has to offer.
Yup. Every piece of shit that participates in this fraudulent dialectic should be punched in the face repeatedly. Turn off your fucking tv’s idiots and stop feeding this unholy beast.
A swift kick to their dangling chads would be great fun – but, turn-out shows that the majority of folks don’t care enough to bother voting. I’d taken my 5 year old daughter to the polls during the last election as a type of civic lesson. I let her fill in the ballot and just as she was feeding it into the machine – an orange haired member of the freak mafia screamed across the room at her. Which I thought was an apt lesson on who’s running the process.
Thank you.
So much this.
It is puzzling. On one hand, when it comes to sexual politics, guys here seem to understand that over decades now the media have conducted a carefully planned assault on manhood, family, race, beauty, and anything that might permit human independence or self-reliance apart from the debt-war system.
Yet at the same time so many guys here apparently don’t see that the political parties – just like finance, the judiciary, police and security services – all enabled by the media – are also tools of or fronts for their enslavement.
It is like not seeing what 9-11 so very clearly was. Do these guys have to be hit with a sledge hammer?
Cool name. My other name is: Every Kerosene Stove I’ve Ever Seen Melted.
I’ve also gone by: “Scattered Office Fires Make Steel High Rise Collapse at Freefall Speed”
Also: “No Internal Resistance Collapse”
This is fun
Stupid Party versus Evil Party is the last and most difficult form of pseudo-identity for the skeptical American to give up. Even people like Steve Sailer probably still vote Republican and people like Kevin MacDonald are wistful that they can’t bring themselves to.
I guess it’s better than being mired in the nig-Giants versus nog-Eagles level of pseudo-identity. But not by much.
http://www.counter-currents.com/2011/10/big-fan/
That was Greg Hood on sports. Here he is at his finest, on elections & the GOP:
http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/11/a-white-nationalist-memo-to-white-male-republicans/
When you hear a man sincerely advocating for one political candidate over another, you can be fairly certain you are talking to a stupid bastard who can be safely ignored.
… And one’s opinion on 9-11 really is the fool proof litmus test which separates those capable of self rule from those who deserve to be ruled hard by degenerate scum.
Aluminum can cut through steal and concrete like a hot knife through butter.
Try this little experiment, drive your car as fast as you can into a highway overpass support; according to 911 physics you will pass right through without losing speed.
If you understand junior high physics, you might be anti-Semitic.
The energy of gravitational collapse is sufficient to pulverize tens of thousands of tons of structural concrete into micron sized dust particles, creating a pyroclastic cloud larger than lower Manhattan; and scattered hydrocarbon office fires can burn underground without oxygen for over a month.
You guys are pretty good at outlandish claims about the physical aftermath of those planes hitting those buildings.
For the record, most of those wild ideas about what actually happened have been debunked and explained logically, but engaging at this point on a blow-by-blow debate will serve to convince no one.
One of my comments already got eaten, where (in order to play the game one last time, since it was covered months ago in another thread) tacking the claim of “controlled demolition” was thoroughly debunked by easily-found numerous links on google.
But ask yourselves this question… if there really is so vast an array of “proof” that 9-1-1 was an inside job, and so many are talking about it apparently, why have the jackals of the media and the legal system, always looking to start or enhance a career, not brought anyone before a grand jury? How is it that, in this age when every side comment at a private party gets trumpeted from the rooftops, and people lose their livelihoods thereby, has all of this “inside job” been kept a secret?
I’ve done quite a bit of research on this topic (and other CT’s, having had a lifelong interest in such), and I’m satisfied the simple explanation is the correct one.
Some 20 highly motivated soldiers staged one of the most daring guerrilla actions in the annals of military history. As the Marines say, they improvised, they adapted, and they overcame.
Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense.
On a side note, this is all-too-reminiscent of the misinformation, disinformation, and general nonsense that surrounded things like the “magic bullet” of the Kennedy assassination. In the end, through computer analysis and enhancement of the Zapruder film and other resources, it was proven that the “impossible physics” of said missile were indeed possible, and did in fact occur. And the outright lie of the “pristine” condition was likewise gainsaid. Yet for years many CT hawkers hung their hats on that canard.
The guys at the chateau know me, I presume, as no friend of the Cathedral, and certainly no friend of the ‘Murrican gummint.
But geez, Louise… heaven help us all if either entity were truly that powerful and that competent.
“most of those wild ideas about what actually happened have been debunked and explained logically”
No they haven’t.
I don’t think you’re a liar. I just think that on account of your age, and despite your professed cynicism with the system, you are unwilling to let go of that last illusion about American exceptionalism.
Hey guys, close to 100% of the kerosene (aka jet fuel) was spent in the initial strike fireball. The remainder that burned in the towers melted steel, keeping it liquid for weeks after the fact. Just like my kerosene stove always friggin melts!
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/
This is but a start to the volumes of info available…
There are many snarky blogs making the kerosene-can’t-do-that claims, but if you’re really concerned with truth, tell us how Popular Mechanics staff and the CREDENTIALED expert sources they cite are mistaken or outright lying.
Credentials vs credentials:
2,400 architects, engineers, chemists, and demo experts risking their careers and maybe more VS Shyam Snyder at NIST.
Tbh, 9/11 IS fishy as hell. Especially considering the Mossad agent that got caught celebrating and said “the palestinians are your enemy”.
Richard Perle and the other goons planning an invasion of Iraq in 1998 and saying a catalyst event would be needed to do it.
Not necessarily proof of active false flag by the US but certainly they welcomed the attack and didn’t bother stopping it. Or something like that.
Although the Building 7 is utterly ridiculous. As is the failure of NORAD.
That Popular Mechanics article is a joke. Technical content aside (all of it high school physics and lying eyes-fail 101) many of the cited experts are described as connected to NIST.
You say it’s a joke, I say most of the truther claims are likewise.
I’m not going to play “my debunker can beat up your myth-buster” when evidence is merely dismissed as “a joke” by those who won’t believe anything that doesn’t fit into their preconceived notions.
Yes, NORAD’s response was “a joke”… so was the FBI and Secret Service in re Oswald, Hinckley, et. al. This obviously doesn’t mean a thing, because those individuals did get their shots off, didn’t they?
The difference between these jokesters is at least the debunkers address the claims of the so-called “truthers”. Where’s the reciprocation?
Personally, I have no faith in our gummint, and certainly acknowledge the power of the Israeli lobby and spy rings.
I’m sure somebody somewhere had heard a whiff of “something’s in the air”, much like with Pearl Harbor. And I don’t doubt that more than one might have ignored reports or closed one eye.
It doesn’t mean they themselves did the deed, nor orchestrated it… and DUH!
We can do this ad nauseum. Just look at how the buildings are falling. How everything is pulverizing. How there is zero bracing, delay or internal resistance to the collapse. It’s freefall collapse. It does not behave like any structural failure in history.
And the molten steel still liquid hot weeks later.
It’s not my job to convince you. Just watch the videos and decide for yourself.
Longer reply eaten yet again… grrrrrrrrr.
“Look at how the buildings are falling” has been explained several times over… don’t let your “lying eyes” fool you, there are more to physics than meets our “lying eyes”.
Think of that ol’ “back and to the left” canard from the Kennedy assassination.
Molten steel.
Comment awaiting moderation in re “molten steel”.
Jeez Louise, just do a damn google on molten steel and you’ll see the numerous debunking sources.
Tedious.
Greg,
Your intransigence on this issue is amusing.
If I didn’t respect you I’d paddle your ass like you were TPW.
MY intransigence? That’s a larf! Guys keep tossing their CT softballs and the debunkers keep hitting them out of the park.
If the crickets in answer to the links I’ve provided were any louder, we’d all be deaf.
And for the record, chum, as much as I live for your respect, any paddling you’d care to do my way would be up shit creek… and you’d find yourself there without one.
“debunkers keep hitting them out of the park”
No they aren’t. I looked through a few of the debunking sites again last night and once again read nothing but strawman arguments and weak-sauce non-refutations. The Popular Mechanics mag, as I already said, refutes nothing related to the controlled demo scenario. Most of the experts it cites are described as connected to NIST or other agencies. Next you will post Salon links to explain The Baltimore riots.
As to your comments here, you argue like a liberal and that affects my level of respect for you. Save your content-free snark for TSW or tahwck. Or at least be entertaining like woherinfder when you shill for Bush &Co.
Richard Perle and the other goons planning an invasion of Iraq in 1998 and saying a catalyst event would be needed to do it.
Explain, then, why the planes hitting the buildings was not enough of a catalyst as an heinous enough “terrorist attack”?
Why, then, would the buildings likewise have to topple in their entirety, with all the commensurate opportunities for telltale signs of alleged fish smell and problematic occurrences in re additional loss of life and property, let alone any variations on the theme that couldn’t otherwise be controlled, or would require dozens, if not hundreds, of additional helpful “conspirators”?
Although the Building 7 is utterly ridiculous. As is the failure of NORAD.
Blatant amateur speculation and Monday morning q-backing, at which all seem to be experts. Google is your friend, as always, and these too have been explained numerous times.
“Explain, then, why the planes hitting the buildings was not enough of a catalyst as an heinous enough “terrorist attack”?”
No. The burden is not on Truthers to speculate on the hypothetical. The burden is on the Liars to explain the glaring inconsistencies between fact and their assertions.
You have yet to point out these so-called “glaring inconsistencies” and not addressed any point-by-point debunking, as opposed to the debunkers who address the issues the truthers bring up and explain how they’re mistaken or outright lying.
I thought you said I was the one who argued like a liberal?
o they aren’t. I looked through a few of the debunking sites again last night and once again read nothing but strawman arguments and weak-sauce non-refutations. The Popular Mechanics mag, as I already said, refutes nothing related to the controlled demo scenario. Most of the experts it cites are described as connected to NIST or other agencies.
Stop being disingenuous… I stated from the start that the PM article was “but a start”, and have posted links or told people to easily google the controlled demolition debunking, when said posts never showed up due to WordPress.
I guess it’s a lot easier to dismiss an engineer’s findings based upon his employer than based upon his analysis.
And what’s irremediably laughable (and tellingly disingenuous) is my being accused of shilling for the Cathedral. Find me one past post where I had anything kind to say about B-u-s-h, ever, and I’ll withdraw from the field.
For the tenth time:
– Molten steel
– nanothermite in rubble
– recovered molten steel was fused with concrete
– Three steel high rises collapsing at free fall speed, one of which absent structural damage
– collapse x3 into own footprint being fully consistent with controlled demo and inconsistent with buildings that collapse from wartime bombing, for example
– Pyroclastic clouds of concrete
– Hundred-plus foot lateral ejection of masive chunks of steel and concrete
– jets/squibs out of windows on yet-uncompressed floors ahead of the progress of the collapse
– All human remains recovered were shredded
– Recorded and witnessed explosions consistent with controlled demo prep
…
I’m not even getting into circumstancial evidence like the arrest of cheering agents or bldg 7 steel being immediately shipped to China and no forensic investigation, or Marvin Bush being a principal at a security firm that oversaw the complex during that spring’s elevator upgrades, and so on.
And for the 11th time, all of those points have been discussed and logically explained or debunked by several of the myth-busting sites.
Several of my comments are still in moderation in which I post the direct links to things like the molten steel canard, so my subsequent posts mentioning googling for oneself still apply.
You can either keep repeating “molten steel” or you can address the explanations given by several engineers in re that issue… and all the others you list, for that matter.
http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf
Try this last attempt on for size, as but one source of information, especially in re the alleged “witnessing” of controlled demolition explosions.
Countermand what these experts are saying with likewise convincing alternative facts… dismiss their credentials… or just return to one’s loved Egyptian night.
It was an obvious inside job. Its not even a mystery who the ringleaders were.
Appeals to “authority” at this point?
You going to quote Federal Reserve statistics on inflation next?
Disappointing Greg, really disappointing.
“And for the record, chum, as much as I live for your respect, any paddling you’d care to do my way would be up shit creek… and you’d find yourself there without one.” — GE
+1
on the Classic Eliot Retort
Its always entertaining to watch a man get beaten with his own shoe.
No. The burden is not on Truthers to speculate on the hypothetical. The burden is on the Liars to explain the glaring inconsistencies between fact and their assertions.
My question was to our resident Muslim apologist ho, who himself speculated that the powers that be were looking for an excuse as far back as 1998 to war with Iraq.
Since that was a hypothetical, my asking why, then, would the mere terrorist attack of hitting the buildings with plane not have been enough, rather than nefariously bringing down the entire buildings and making the operation infinitely more unwieldy, with commensurate danger of discovery.
And for the record, the truthers have done more than a fair share of speculating on hypotheticals. So, because my question was a rational one for which the answer would be that there WAS no good reason for bringing down the buildings in a nefarious operation, you played coy… in face, disingenuous yet again.
all we do in this country is elect different leaders of the ruling class. Those people look out for “their people”. 97% of us don’t belong to their club. There is no true democracy is america, we are a representative republic. Anyone who has a decent education would understand how a representative republic operates. Aint nothin gonna change in this country until “we the people” have reached our threshold of suffering and change it.
Why even bother
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What’s everyone’s take on Rand Paul here?
Take Rand Paul… please!
I like him but they won’t let him in.
Better politician then his dad
Better than RuPaul, I guess….
Least bad. I’ll vote for him.
Don’t know what sort of president he’d make, but I really liked Atlas Shrugged.
😉
LOL. Isnt his real name Randall? He seems like the least rotten apple out of the whole bunch
What are these “elections”, of which you fellows speak?
Hillary won’t be the 2016 Dem nominee. I predict an O’Malley/ Warren ticket. O’Malley will be groomed as the Bill Clinton of the 21st century and Warren gets the women vote. It’s what Soros wants.
And instead of a sax, he’s got a guitar! I can see him on jamming on the Tonight Show already!
I hope you’re wrong… I was looking forward to the spectacle of all those flying monkeys.
If you make less than 250K a year, voting GOP is like putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.
If you’re a straight white male, voting for the Dimocrats is like putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.
Worse, it’s like putting the gun to your dick and blowing it off. You get to suffer endless misery without the release of death.
If you make less than 250K a year, voting GOP is like putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.
If you make more than 250K a year, the GOP welcomes you with open arms.
Strapon, with the only variation being the specific number, that canard was first heard by me all the way back during the Nixon era.
Mind you, I don’t care for the entire political system and have never voted…
But geez, Louise, the same ol’ same battle cries for the past forty some odd years? Can’t you jokers come up with anything moderately novel?
I bet you still think crime is merely the result of poverty, and if we just gave negroes some more civil rights and a generation or two, everything will be hunky-dory in this great melting pot of ours.
(((shakin’ mah haid)))
If you’re a straight white male, voting for the Dimocrats is like putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.
Not disagreeing in entirety, because you’re right, but if you’re a small business owner voting Republican is the same thing,
If you are a white man with a family who makes less than 250k you simply do not have representation.
Bingo.
My suspicion is now very strong that TSW is a woman pretending to be a male commenter.
Reminiscent of Glen or Glenda, orchestrated by Ed Wood, Jr.
Your suspicion is incorrect. Whether you believe that or not is irrelevant to the universe.
At this point it’s obvious.
Note her reflexive attempt to neutralize criticism by clumsy appeal to the herd:
“Whether you believe that or not is irrelevant to the universe.”
How very womanish.
The strap on within has claimed to be a white man over six foot tall, to have traveled the world and have slept with hundreds of women … which sounds a bit too convenient on a game site
yet he says the most feminine things such as ” … is irrelevant to the universe”
has a bleeding heart for minorities
is a proud leftist on a site where we call leftist low testosterone males
and this is not the first time that he posts comments that are quite feminine
odds are high that’s a woman……or a low testosterone male…with twigs for arms
What convinced me is that his responses to insults or even milder attacks are not like those of a man. Male response can range from ignoring the attacker to some kind of mild or strong retort. It can be condescending, or witty or amused, or angry or stern, but it will usually have an edge of aggression, even coming from a wimpy male. But TSW’s responses are either indignant, or chatty, or sometimes downright creating an impression of flirty (douchechill, excuse me here) banter.
Canadian: there were also the “curled toes”
(Damn, I get a sharp douche chill writing that. Excuse me)
This is such a parade of morons, I should make popcorn and watch the show. Carry on, gentlemen.
(pours gin and tonic, props feet up)
gay
I’ve also thought the same.
Well we know how much Polish Sausage Within does not make… despite all the toil of his… fifty whole hours a week! TIP: work harder AND smarter…
Oh no, the MUH POOR argument.
The GOP harms the poor by NOT going Robin Hood on their betters. That’s preferable to the party of Debby Schutz-Wasserman and “after the great society, these negroes will vote democrat for the next 100 years”.
you men these ni66as doing social justice shopping
http://thepunditpress.com/2015/04/27/frightening-photos-inside-7-eleven-in-baltimore-while-it-is-being-looted/
Well, no matter who the next president is, we’ve still got the best government money can buy.
Quite right GE..btw, can i count on you for few hundred thousand shares in my new cc camera company venture old boy? See you at the polo club.
Rather! Have your people call my people and we’ll do lunch.
Christ on a corn dog- how high are the idiots arguing that we should vote for a democrat because (a) to accelerate the liberal collapse (b) the republicans arent pure enough?
Instead of the mild flu of another mediocre republican president, you lunatics want another eight years of full blown Democrat AIDS?
Madness
Now, now… two terms of 0bama has definitely soured many whites’ attitudes toward die-vershitty and groid behavior. Maybe two terms of Hillary will do the same toward feminism.
But those two terms will give her enough time to change the system even more. Votes for illegals; packed Supreme court etc
Actually, the D’s are less demographically damaging than the R’s. At least as far as president is concerned.
We’re supposed to wait the forty or fifty years for the demographic situation to right itself? Perhaps there’s longevity in your family tree…
Negro fatigue is the new yellow fever. Catch it!
You lost me at Christ on a corn dog.
Apologies. It was an expression of shock. I thought I’d stumbled into Jezebel’s comment section
Yeah, blasphemy is a sin, y’know.
It is. Likewise is voting for a group of militant atheists.
I’m not ever voting for a Dimocrat, I guarantee you. But for president, I’m voting third party, due to the Republican tendency to nominate total morons as their standard-bearers.
Bully for you. You have political conviction … I hope we never meet at a party.
The GOP is no different, not just that they’re not pure enough. Can you tell me what Bush did differently than Obama? More socialist programs(fyi, ACA costs less than Bush’s MMA), amnesty, more welfare for their corporate friends and sponsors etc. If you want a true right wing movement to form, it won’t happen with the GOP in power. And considering the GOP won’t fix jackshit about the economy because they have the same economic philosophy as the Democrats, why bother considering the GOP winning will send all right wingers except the fringe to sleep?
Of course, considering America = liberal nonsense, the whole American mythology needs to be destroyed. You must be a clueless imbecile not to realize that the whole American system IS liberalism and liberalism will rule you, regardless of who is in office, as long as the system exists. It’s like my country replacing the pre1989 dictator only with some political dissident and saying ‘well, at least the communists aren’t in office’.
And now a word from Fred Reed’s long lost brother John T.
http://www.johntreed.com/San-Francisco-going-to-become-majority-white.html
John T shoots about as straight as they come… he’s a cantankerous ol’ bastard.
Unfortunately A,the increasing whites in SF (where I live) are of the limp wristed variety. You know, the ones to want to burn down bakeries because they will not cater to gay weddings. Nice thought though.
So what’s the alternative? Idiocy most likely. You have a choice between 100% pure establishment with Hillary or some as yet undecided republican moron (if they keep with their current trend).
So what’s the republican strategy? Slander and libel, if you’re to take conservative ramblings on the internet seriously. Sad.
Rick Perry for the win.
llolzlzolzlzolll
Actually, my nigga in fo’ da win. My dawg Holder done be with JP Morgan.
Time to short JP Morgan stock, methinks.
I can’t believe the number of misguided folks here. You want to elect the lady who epitomises everything you self-styled Red-Pillers claim to oppose.
Rather than a (probable) moron, you’ll pick a known arch-feminist with a track record of using government against her enemies.
Why settle for the lesser of two evils? Yours is the logic of despair. And when the next iteration of misandrist legislation comes, don’t expect sympathy.
Republicans are just as misandrist, it’s just that democrat misandry is more obviously insane. There is a reason why the 80s were all republican/relatively conservative.
Things weren’t too bad then. Ron was a decent president
@ho Exactly. Yes, repukes suck, but we’re talking about the difference between “horrible” and “just unfuckingbelievably god fucking awful” here.
Yep. I don’t think anyone with sense would be enthusiastic about the current Republicans, but the alternative is horrific. It’s baffling that so many commenters here are thinking of supporting the Dems, and on the basis of the Reps not being ideologically pure enough.
Do they think Hilary’s going to announce pro-manosphere policies?
The eighties were a successful compromise between traditional America and the Civil Rights coup. Tragically, one of Reagan’s most consequential acts was signing off on the 86 amnesty, which was a knife in the gut of the nation.
What is with this love of Reagan conservatards have? Reagan is one of the worst Presidents in history. Reagan gave the brown skins a foothold to launch the current invasion we are dealing with now due to his amnesty. He also destroyed the family by being the first governor to implement no-fault divorce. Reagan was one of the most anti-white assholes who has ever walked the earth and all white men should line up to shit on his grave…
@Bill
Exactly. At least someone gets it: Repub presidents are worse for our demographics than Dim ones are. The Mexivasion hit its peak under Jorge Boosh.
You might have missed the point: the 80s were pretty conservative and a strong decade for Republicans. Why?
Most likely because people were fed up with the degeneracy and unrest of the last 15 years. Mudsharkery. Faggots. Race riots. Peaceniks spitting on their own soldiers WHO GOT DRAFTED TO DO THAT. Feminism.
People were tired of it.
When Republicans are inpower, it gets worse, but nobody notices. When Democ-rats are in power, shit gets worse, and people are tired of it because Dems are obviously, OBVIOUSLY, mentally ill.
Hillary winning could be a great boon. If Repubs win, the discontent that people have could dissipate and things could move closer to the dungheap without anybody noticing. Nobody is gonna ignore 16 year of sustained anti white garbage.
Ho: exactly. A Dem admnistration is like tear gas. A Repub administration is like carbon monoxide.
presidents are not “elected”….they are “selected”…by the two party system. Besides, have you really thought about it?…If voting really worked, they would not allow it. Voting is mandatory in communist countries….because it does not matter!
You do have a choice. Between the merely ineffectual Reps and the crazed radical Dems. Not a great choice, but there is a real difference
Incompetence or destruction…so we get two sides of the same coin.
No, because the incompetent guy won’t damage things at the same rate. Incompetent guy gives breathing space for rational politics to develop.
Despair and nihilism are easy.
FrTedCrilly, or the incompetent guy makes the decline slow enough that people won’t notice and nothing will change. Btw, the GOP isn’t incompetent, they’re just thoroughly corrupt.
Funniest baltimore riot meme yet must have a racist theme
Hillary will be the next President. The Democrat and Republican leaderships are agreed on that. The Republican leadership would rather see Hillary elected than a conservative Republican.
Why, it’s almost like the same small, inbred tribe controls both parties!
By George, I think he’s got it!
I intend to use my vote to do the maximum possible damage to the MultiKulti-Gynotopia.
I am a Leninist of the Right. Worse is better.
The thing is, the USSA is such a batshit crazy place, I am not sure what would be worse: Hillary or some Republican Chickenhawk with a cabinet full of duel {sic} citizens whose Kippas would be doing flippas of joy at the prospect of sending the shkotzym to fight Putin and the Iranians at the same time?
Whoever thought picking the GREATER of two evils would be a tough choice?
The right wing party elected this dumbass here to lead and all she talks about is how the socialist government should pay more in benefits to kids, how they would raise retirement benefits more etc and the right wing president we elected is a lying joke. It’s funny because I kept telling my friends that he will be a joke and they were enthusiastic about the fool. I only voted for him because I wanted to spite the socialists. lol
Yep. The cons were foaming at da mouth. Iranian nuke brains were getting offed one by one. And then, somehow the ball got deflated.
And the boots are not in Persia yet. Nor Syria. Nor Lybia. Nor Yemen.
So Michelle’s hub done put a damper on that drive to eternal war for eternal peace.
A Marxist thwarted the Trotskytes … 4 now.
oink
And in Russia KGB goon – turned Champion 4 Christ.
Yes Sir, we live in a cold and senseless universe.
oink
I’m sure Columbus & co. foresaw such social headway all along
America really is a circus. lol
I don’t feel like watching 14 minutes of Bablyon… is the gal in the street because of being passed-out drunk or did someone clock her?
Watched 30 seconds silent; looks like a shim.
Question?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/sex/TPU7LRH0C3GVHG434
Shit test I got today and failed:
“What are you intending to do?”
Bitch found out I was sexting one of her friends lozlz suggestions?
Fillet both of you, at the same time.
Own it. Produly. Agree and amplify…embrace and expand.
“3some. Then food and TV”
Shit on her chest… now THAT’S a counter shit test!
‘Someone’s being nosy’
‘Curiosity killed the cat’
‘Information costs. What will you do for it?’
‘Have her cook me breakfast’
‘Do cocaine with her before buttsex’
‘Get her pregnant’
‘Smell her neck. Don’t you like how nice her perfumes are?’
Idk, pretty much anything except apologizing.
Baltimore 1920
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” — H. L. Mencken
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Washington 2000
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Bonus
Baltimore 2015
68 homicides in Baltimore since December. This one just had to be extra heinous I guess.
Mayor of Baltimore confronts police chief over dead ni66er:
Here are the homicide data from the Baltimore Sun:
http://data.baltimoresun.com/bing-maps/homicides/
The vast majority are blacks, both the perps and the victims. But these are depressingly common hatefacts that don’t generate clicks.
Still, this kind of info is great fun to tell to shitlibs, who usually respond with something like “But slavery!”
The white man is no stranger to cutting his own brothers throat.
The same rain falls on you that falls on me;
good luck faggot.
“The white man is no stranger to cutting his own brothers throat.”
But it was for such a worthy cause.
And quite unnecessary. In Britain and many parts of the U.S there was no ugly; the government simply compensated slave owners for the confiscation of their PROPERTY.
No need to act like a bunch of savages.
the government simply compensated slave owners for the confiscation of their PROPERTY.
There’s a twist… we’ll have to remember that when y’all cry for REP-AH-RAY-SHUNS.
“We’d like to help you old, old boy… but we still haven’t recompensed the slave owners.” lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlozlzolzolzozlozlozlozl
Why would any self respecting man want or endorse anything like the government that presently exists? The Rs and the Ds are all about destroying independence of people.
The only hope for straight white men is civil war. Hilldawg’s ascension to the Presidency will expedite one. A republican victory in 2016 will give the status quo a few more years without improving matters in the slightest. HEIL HILLARY!
As with 0bama being when droid-worship jumped the shark, so would feminism under Hilldawg.
*groid-worship
Nog worship seems to be strengthening.
It will strengthen until you will replace your political class. Under communism, things got more and more preposterous as time went on and that’s the bane of all regimes.
http://www.radixjournal.com/journal/2015/4/22/the-president-america-deserves
The book has been mentioned here before so if anyone’s interested, Castalia house is giving way the ebook of “The Evolutionary Psychology Behind Politics” at the moment. (Monday and Tuesday only.) Follow the link.
http://www.castaliahouse.com/downloads/the-evolutionary-psychology-behind-politics/
A fascinating look into r/K selection theory and how it shapes our politics. Something that should be of interest to many commenters here at the Chateau.
fuck you
Beating Hillary Clinton would be a huge blow against feminism. I think we should do all we can to make that happen. We are more powerful than we think.
What “B” say. Oink
I expect Hillary to win and many lols during the next eight years of circling the drain. There will be many sonorous pronouncement of how tough and intelligent and driven she is from many an adoring media outlet. Will they spin her as scrupulously impartial or on fire from a desire for justice? Or both!
The international flailing will continue. We’re used to it by now. What difference at this point does it make? Hey, do you think you can do any better?
Domestically, if it’s feminism’s turn next, perhaps we will see a crackdown on rape culture at universities and on the internet. Not just some finger slapping like today. I have a feeling there’s a lot of male privilege that needs to be adjusted, and that there is many a nice man in the GOP who is willing to make a deal if it comes to that.
With that said, the general direction is already set, regardless of what particular figurehead is at the bowsprit of this ship. So it doesn’t really matter if Hillary or Jeb wins this round.
If most men are beta, how come the vast majority of marriages aren’t ending up in divorce? Are we supposed to believe there are betas who willingly remain trapped in a miserable marriage?
Hillary is a wildcard; ultimately the only thing she may be about is herself; she got game and she’s a player.
She’ll steal the “S” out your sugar.
You ni66as be sittin round at breh-fiss sayin “pass tha ugar”
“For the record, most of those wild ideas about actually happened have been debunked and explained logically, but engaging at this point on a blow-by-blow debate will serve to convince no one.”
No.
For the record, no one has ever debunked e.g, Stephen Jones’ evidence (http://impactglassman.blogspot.com/2010/09/911-truth-evidence-of-energetic.html?m=1). Nor will they because unless the laws of physics were suspended on 9/1/2001, the official government account of the events of that day are simply physically impossible — period.
The only people who still believe the government’s story either haven’t looked at any of the evidence or they are just plain fucking stupid. The only people I know of who still use the “debunked” bullshit are people who don’t understand basic physics or are ‘dual citizens’ (creepy cass sunstein et. al) or work for them.
I hope you’re just fucking stupid, G. Eliot.
I may just be “fucking stupid”, but you’re outright wrong, my friend.
Here’s a start to the debunking of your vaunted Mr. Jones, whose qualifications may or may not be all they’re touted, nor have his findings been corroborated thus far by a credentialed peer review system in the proper engineering disciplines.
https://truthersaresanitychallenged.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/debunking-steven-jones/
(several links within that link as well)
You keep making the mistake of calling the debunking “the government’s story” when in fact, there are no direct ties in many cases to the engineers and investigators.
You also conveniently ignore the fact that, if Mr. Jones’ theories and precepts have been proven within reasonable doubt, why have no formal criminal charges been brought up in this, our all-too-happy-to-disgrace-the-powers-that-be society filled with media vultures and sue-happy scheisters.
I have a relative who worked in fireproofing research and was engaged in stress testing novel fireproofing materials and we laughed about how hilariously stupid the conspiracy theories about 9/11 are. I used to debate against this kind of idiocy that you’re espousing, but it makes so little sense as debating egalitards who think blacks and whites have equal innate health potential or cognitive potential.
Fred on Everything had an article awhile back, debunking the claims made about the plane that hit the Pentagon… there were those who said a plane couldn’t do that sort of thing, the damage was obviously not caused by the plane, it was actually a missile, etc., etc., etc.
He was in the ideal position to do his debunking, since he himself witnessed the plane as it hit, having a chin-wag with a colleague at a nearby hotel, if memory serves.
The attack on the Pentagon is suspect because not only did this “Arab pilot” take the most difficult angle of attack; but every 8 year old boy who plays with toy soldiers knows you put all your important stuff behind the inner most ring of your fort
Why didn’t they crash the plane on the inside ring where it would have done more damage to more valuable things?
To sum up, I don’t think an “Arab pilot” was qualified to do the Pentagon.
That flight path has white man written all over it.
Just sayin.
(Que. Greg Eliot foaming at the mouth with rebuttal)
Leave it to t-h-w-a-c-k to speculate on flight paths and such… that be geometry, trig, and such, bro… kryptonite to n166ahs!
No nigro, its throttle, rudder and flaps…
My bet is what ever hit the Pentagon was using pre programed terrain guidance.
In addition, I doubt any human has ever steered/piloted ANYTHING from zero G down to a landing on any planet or moon. That goes for all space shuttle and Apollo flights.
I must remain a skeptic, t-h-w-a-c-k, and take the word of Fred, who actually saw the plane hit.
Of course, you’re still in a negative-credibility zone over the faked moon landing belief, so just about anything you have to say on matters such as these needs be considered with a moon-sized grain of salt.
In the end the biggest “tell” that 9-11 was an inside job is the fact no white person got fired, blamed and/or punished in any way.
I know the white mans ways well and anytime this “non result” results, it means the people running the investigation are the perps.
If it was up to me white heads would have been rolling all over the place.
The only punishment the whites took was 3000+ dead, including 343 firemen and 60 police.
Granted, I’m sure there was a nonwhite or two amid the rubble.
And since when did you know whites to NOT go out of their way to prosecute such heinous deeds, when the perpetrators were proven actual beings… and not some fantasy machers?
You think if there was some credible evidence that whites… especially “insider” whites… took part in this that they wouldn’t have been skewered… and gleefully so… by all and sundry?
Good point, with all those bankers sitting in prison since 2008… not.
Let’s not mix apples and sour grapes here… the legal system, when it comes to financial bigwigs that otherwise have not outright killed or destroyed with violence face a far more lax standard of how hard they are pursued… especially by the very fraternity of lawyers that they themselves fund in style.
And you say I argue like a liberal? :duckface
Heres how it works. The only white person that will REALLY work to find the truth is the one that gets officially BLAMED, FIRED, PUNISHED….
making it “nobodies fault” (because everyone was a little bit to blame…)
insures the investigation never gets to the truth; putting a white head on the chopping block causes all kinds of relevant information to “suddenly” be revealed.
Typical white man response when he is guilty of a crime he is tasked with investigating:
Greg Eliot: “No I don’t think we need to go to the inspector general, what we have here is a communication problem and some MISTAKES were made. Now what we need to do is all shake hands and go back out there and attack the problems, bla, bla bla, squonk…”
James Blonde: “Yeah, but when we thought Trayvonious did it, he was fired, he was stripped, it was over, FOR HIM. But now that it appears a white person was at fault, you call it a communication problem, and tell us to “shake hands and rally as a team…?”
Greg Eliot: thats all fine and well Mr. Blonde, but now that Im promoting you to a high profile position and doubling your pay, Im sure we can come to an “understanding” about that.
*The white man is a liar just like his father*
I’ll let t-h-w-a-c-k’s fractured fairy tales stand on their own dubious merits.
Good point, with all those bankers sitting in prison since 2008… not.
Let’s not compare apples with sour grapes now…
The standards of criminal justice for high finance, coupled like they are with the legal profession whom they make rich, as well as the players in that field, many of whom with their own tribal connections, well… some have faced scrutiny, others remain bullet-proof.
A much different kettle of fish, in re how the law pursues one, when there is no direct violence and loss of life nor limb.
You know this… stop trying to score Cyberia debate points with disingenuous analogies… I thought you said I argue like a liberal?
Let me know when Darth Vader decides to throw his helmet into the ring… I may deign to register and vote at that time.
May.
One must be sackless, spineless and brainless to vote for Hitlery. Although, I’d vote for her just because the GOP is a joke that doesn’t deserve to be politically relevant.
Anyway, I got cockblocked today. This really cute girl doing promotions for cigarettes at the supermarket stopped me and asked me if I smoke and I told her that no, but I like girls giving me free stuff and told her to let me finish my shopping and we’ll talk then. Anyway, when I finished, we bantered a bit while the cashier was doing her job on my groceries and she gave me a free pack of cigarettes and I was giving her my personal data. I was planning to ask her for her phone number in exchange for mine when this stupid fuck goes by and says ‘oh, he will ask you for your number at the end, men are like this’.
I’m pissed off he fucked up my vibe by his unexpected comment because she was really cute. And now I have cigarettes and I’ll smoke even if I had quit a while back, although at least they’re free.
“u heard what the guy say. Pony up!”
oink
Looking her stright in the eyes with a smirk.
PWN,
You laughed. That’s one hell of an argument, sport. Nice work!
This is pretty funny too: http://youtu.be/yuC_4mGTs98
The snarky tone and MTV editing made me stop after 10 seconds… along with all those other youtube expects claiming that “no planes” were used.
Got anything substantial to link… perhaps to gainsay these, since your whole ball of wax depends upon “controlled demolition”?
http://www.debunking911.com/overp.htm
Here’s one that does a blow-by-blow deconstruction of Gage’s claims:
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/11-09-07/
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The snarky tone and MTV editing made me stop after 10 seconds… along with all those other youtube expects claiming that “no planes” were used.
Just google “controlled demotion debunk” and you’ll see a plethora of info to gainsay your misconceptions.
You stopped listening because of the “tone”? Hahahaha What a little bitch. It’s pretty clear why you know nothing about 911 — you don’t want to. What’s not clear is your motivation for providing disinformation.
http://www.911truth.org/science-died-world-trade-center/
I suggest you leave this this discussion to men that have actual experience with the way objects behave in the real world e.g. Men who have thrown baseballs, wrecked bicycles, made potato cannons etc. etc. stick to video games, The New York Times, and wacking it to Sarah Silverman on YouTube.
I’m not gonna be quite as harsh with Greg because he supports 14W and that’s really all that matters but I too winder about his zeal with that subject.
Sometimes, instead of posting a gov-pozzed pop science article, it’s just better to say “I don’t really know.”
Guys, when I expect sober investigation and honest discussion, and you come up with that video of immediate snark, as if it were a South Park episode, then yes, I don’t give it further attention.
Call me a bitch again from the safety of your keyboard, fool.
I only know from 9-1-1 what the “truthers” and what the debunkers have to say, having listened to and read from both sides over the immediate years after it happened, and have found the debunkers’ case much more convincing.
The one glaring method between the two schools is that the “truthers” make claims, and the debunkers go through those claims, one-by-one, and explain how the truthers are either mistaken, incomplete in their evaluations, or often downright irresponsible in their statements.
I see that same modus operandi right here, with you fellows, as I have on other forums over the years.
I have likewise stated that, at this point, I’m not overly concerned on the matter… to the point where I’m not going to repeat verbatim what is already readily available on numerous other sites.
This, of course, doesn’t not mean I sit idly by when guys on this forum start in with their nonsense and, indeed, immediately out of the gate with bullshit personal jibes. You know I like to give as good as I get there.
I suggest you leave this this discussion to men that have actual experience with the way objects behave in the real world e.g. Men who have thrown baseballs, wrecked bicycles, made potato cannons etc. etc.
If those are your credentials for determining the physics of what happened to those buildings, well… you’re making my case for me.
Let me know when you want to have a throwing contest… I was a pretty good pitcher in my day, and the arm still shows some memory.
Or any other physical contest, for that matter. I’m probably a good 20 years older than you, but I like my chances.
stick to video games, The New York Times, and wacking it to Sarah Silverman on YouTube.
Now I know why you liked that video so much… you seem to be steeped in the South Park snark of your generation.
Let me know when “men” show up and I’ll leave the discussion to them, you snarky little pismire.
Sometimes, instead of posting a gov-pozzed pop science article, it’s just better to say “I don’t really know.”
And there you go again… after I’ve stated more than once I posted that article as “but a start” to the whole investigation, for those of interest. And you dismiss it as “pop science”, but don’t address their actual debunking points which countermand, often extremely convincingly, your side’s wild claims of “controlled demolition” and such.
You wrote NOTHING of substance in this entire discussion. While this is not is forum for rigorous technical debate, I and others listed evidence for our thesis. You responded by posting a link to a worthless publication “as a start” and volumous protestations about how you dont care about the subject. GTFO with that.
Since you’ve shown so much commitment to the subject and claim to have read debunking material, explain to the audience who is reading along, in laymens’ terms and very briefly:
– molten steel
– free fall collapse
– bldg 7
– anything else on my earlier list that you’d like.
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I’ve said nothing of substance? How many times do I have to say I’m not going repeat what’s already available on numerous websites?
But all you do is keep listing bullet points of the truthers that have been debunked several times over by various investigators and engineers.
Let’s try this again, since it struck me as being one of the better papers on the matter… of the many links available.
http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf
Now let’s just stop the insanity.
Unless you in your own words take a stab at “debunking” anything I wrote, the audience’s takeaway will be that you got nuffin.
Here were some others than got eaten earlier that gainsay this whole molten steel misinformation:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/moltensteel.html
http://911review.com/errors/wtc/molten.html
http://911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html
This is rich… unless I write in my own words what the experts have already written, my argument is invalid?
Did I ask you to refilm your own version of the Jones video?
I made my case in my own words and provided the Architects and Engineers for 9 1 1 Truth video only as an additional resource to those inclined to view it. Surely it can’t be that hard for you to write one sentence that explains molten steel to an inttelligent layman.
It’s not about convincing me. It’s about convincing the audience. So far, you got nothing.
I’ll let the audience decide for themselves on the gots nuthin’ issue… thus far, it seems not many are all that concerned on this issue anyway… and those few who have chimed in are, already, in partisan camps.
Merely replying to some of the claims and providing links, or encouragements to do the simple googles, was time-consuming enough.
Everyone knows the rehashing of information already covered elsewhere (in “one’s own words” or the more usual cut-n-paste nonsense) takes far, far, FAR more time, and proves a fool’s errand, for it serves to convince no one who refuses to belief other than their preconceived notions about CT.
In other words, you have read the debunking literature. It convinced you that molten steel is not evidence of controlled demo. And you are unable to write ONE SENTENCE in layman’s English, based on your extensive readings, to explain to the audience why molten steel is consistent with the official explanation. Weak.
Sigh…
Okay, let’s play this game again then, for the sake of past agreements on other topics.
In my own words, sort of:
It appears the reports of “molten steel” are somewhat exaggerated.
First, CT proponents are going to have to make up their minds whether alleged thermite did the structural beam damage that caused the buildings to come down, or whether it was explosions from demolitions.
Since thermite doesn’t explode, you can’t have it both ways. And there were no explosions to set off the thermite. Reports of alleged “hearing explosions” occurred only after the buildings started to collapse, and have been easily explained as sounds related to the collapse itself.
Of course believing one’s “lying ears” are a common occurrence in CT… remember the numerous reports of gunshots heard hither and yon from all corners of Dealy Plaza, for example?
There seems to be some confusion on who saw and said what in re “molten steel”… at first it was attributed to Tully and Loizeux, but later Loizeux stated he had not seen it himself, and merely went by the word of “the contractors”.
Additionally, a Dr. Keaton mentioned “molten metal”, which was then allegedly requoted by a Leslie Robertson, one of the structural engineers who designed the towers, as “molten steel”. When asked about this subsequently, Robertson said:
“I’ve no recollection of having made any such statements…nor was I in a position to have the required knowledge.”
I could go on and on, talking about glowing red metal debris being described as “molten”, but the point is, there’s an awful lot of statements being made based upon what others may or may not have said or seen, rather than first-hand corroboration or analysis on exactly what metals were or weren’t in pools.
There could be many explanations for molten or glowing metals at the scene of fires and debris, such as would be caused by the destruction of buildings the size of the towers. I don’t presume to hunt down all the details myself, nor understand the possibilities.
But even from a cursory reading, I see a lot of questionable statements and claims being made, especially on “side issues” such as molten metals, when there are more substantial areas of investigation and explanation in re the towers and nearby buildings affected, such as no evidence of controlled demolition type explosions, logical explanations of the pancake effect and why the buildings fell as they did, outright misinformation about damage done to WT7 and why it fell, etc., etc., etc..
The bottom-line remains: let all who are curious do a bit of snooping and reading for themselves… many truthers and debunkers make a convincing case in and of themselves, when taken at their word, and only their word… and when only looking at their particular site.
As an addendum, I found this particular video very convincing in re the whole issue of “molten steel”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YXzjAKJQOg
Breathe easy and stop sighing, you preening fairy, the real men are still here.
A person who claims to favor a sober investigation while also admitting that the “tone” of an informational video prevented him from watching it, does not have a lot of credibility. From what you have written am convinced that: (1) you have no scientific training; and (2) you have not actually read any of the purported “debunking” materials that you have linked (or if you did, you had zero technical comprehension of them). I say this because not a single thing that you have linked actually debunks any of the issues raised by posters such as PA or myself or more than 2300 architects and engineers (http://www.ae911truth.org/gallery/evidence.html). Not a single one.
As for the molten metal “debunking” video … There is a reason that these fearless “debunkers” always disable comments (as is the case with your linked video). It’s because they get exposed and utterly DESTROYED by commenters with actual technical knowledge. That video is chock full of outright lies and cleverly presented half truths. For example, stating that the photo of the glowing beam was “doctored” is absolutely false. Further, to suggest that layman could not tell the difference between molten aluminum and molten steel is laughable — molten aluminum is grey (yes, even when mixed with other materials).
I’ll ask you one simple NON-TECHNICAL question to see if you have the competence and the stones to answer in your own words: the computer model on which the official NIST report of WTC towers 1 and 2 is modeled up to the point of initiation of collapse. In other words, NIST did not even attempt to model the global collapses of the towers. Why? Why would they do that?
No steel structured building had ever suffered global failure and collapse from fire before 9/11/01 and none have since. Wouldn’t understanding as fully as possible the mechanism of collapse be paramount for the design of future buildings?
Extra credit: Why won’t NIST release their computer models to the public or at the very least, to non-biased qualified structural engineers? If a scientist tried to keep his model secret, he would be laughed out of the academy for the obvious reason that his results would be impossible to verify.
First of all, much of what you say is untrue… and the reason comments get disabled is because no one wants to put up with the rantings of those who keep repeating the same canards.
I will engage your one “extra credit” question, thouigh… it’s my understanding the NIST did not want to release their computer models and all the information for security purposes.
First of all, that makes sense in that technical information is often guarded as proprietary, being hard-won and often highly paid-for, whether through consultants or employees.
Second, it wouldn’t surprise me if said data contains information on how to go about compromising structures that heretofore was unrealized before 9-1-1 and some of the surprises brought about by those plane crashes… hence, security issues would be a real fear, not merely some sandbagging.
Since it’s obvious that nobody and nothing is going to convince you otherwise, especially by your cavalier dismissal of that very convincing molten steel debunk video… for example, that picture was known to be “enhanced” for clarity, (“doctored” if you will) but your Mr. Jones used it as an example of molten steel, when it’s ball-ass obvious it was a video of those firemen and their flashlights. Pretty damning to my “lying eyes”.
And the question remains, as incompetent and “spesh ops” as our government can be, if all of this purported evidence was so convincing, one would have to be a gullible fool indeed, to think there was not one official in the entire country or law enforcement agency with the character and integrity to bring someone/anyone before a grand jury, given such allegedly slam-dunk evidence.
For every expert and engineer that feeds you what you like, there seem to be an equal number, and moreso, saying just the opposite or not bothering to enter the fray altogether, for lack of convincing.
So we’re done here… have your last word and onward we go.
Nice lay down. I suspected you would/could not answer that question.
“First of all, that makes sense in that technical information is often guarded as proprietary, being hard-won and often highly paid-for, whether through consultants or employees.”
It makes sense to claim inormation as proprietary when the entire study was paid for by taxpayers and the very purpose of the study was to explain the failure of the buildings? Hahaha. You might want to grab a dictionary and rethink that one. The “national security” argument is also a gem — let’s go on endangering countless lives by continuing to design fatally flawed structures…. In the interest of national security.
“Much of what you say is untrue.” Gosh, we’ll all just take you at your word. No need to cite any specifics.
The pic of the glowing beam in the claw was absolutely not doctored. The flashlight picture is not used by Jones or any one else associated with aefor911 truth. I see you fell for the clever slight of hand in the video you linked. (Hint: watch it again or however many times it takes you to grasp).
“we’re done here.” Correction, you’re done here. You’ve exposed yourself as someone with no credibility on this issue. I’m fairly certain that you are no YKW asset because they typically don’t employ B-teamers. I suspect you are one of those more sizzle than steak dudes who made a little money in sales or some other non-technical field who now thinks that that makes him a member of the master race. In short, a big talking shit kicker who’s pride won’t let him admit that he has drifted into the deep water.
May your chains rest lightly on you, shit kicker.
Piling on. See the NIST engineer squirm, stammer, flush red, and do other liar-tells when asked about molten steel and freefall collapse. Also see footage of 11,000 degree temperatures and molten steel on the site SIX WEEKS after 9-11.
That’s an even better vid Scanman. Excellent resolution, as well as filmed eyewitness testimony of “rivers of molten steel” in Congressional hearings and tons of other testimonies and footage. New York Times describing VAPORIZED steel.
If you are not a 9 1 1 truther, your choices are to either admit that you don’t know enough about the subject to argue abut it, or you are a 9 1 1 liar.
Well, I try to get out and they keep pulling me back in…
The pic of the glowing beam in the claw was absolutely not doctored.
Never said it was… I didn’t even bring up that picture. I was talking about the fireman flashlight picture that shows “glowing red”. Pay attention, especially when you want to throw around the personal insults about stupidity.
Now, tell us how a glowing beam with physical form is “molten”, Sherlock.
And then tell us how probably the most incompetent administration in the history of the office suddenly pulls off a special operation like the alleged controlled demolition of 9-1-1 and nobody gets their feet held to the fire… we’re talking, remember, about a government system that couldn’t even keep the lid on the equivalent of a boyhood prank like Watergate.
Then tell us why the radial Islam group that pulled off the whole thing takes full credit for it, rather than REALLY sticking it to the Great Satan by telling the world they had nothing to do with it, and it was the work of the ‘Murrican government coupled with Mossad.
And finally, keep slinging the insults from the safety of your keyboard… it makes your case so much more convincing… and if I haven’t handled them well, it’s because I never seem to have to put up with it in the real world, when guys like you are face-to-face.
The flashlight picture is not used by Jones or any one else associated with aefor911 truth.
Well, since lying has been brought up, first you lied that “no one has debunked” Mr. Jones, and I posted a link to that… conveniently ignored.
And now you lie about how that flashlight picture is not used by Jones…
This image WITH REDDISH ENHANCEMENT was included in Jones’ September 2006 paper.
http://drjudywood.com/pdf/060907_WhyIndeedDidtheWTC.pdf
Then again, maybe you don’t lie… maybe you’re just mistaken. And if that’s the case, well… try not to be wrong at the top of your voice, calling the other guy names.
NOW we’re done.
SJW Within
My comment has been “awaiting moderation” for 6 hours?
Really? WTF?
Reblogged this on ElderofZyklon’s Blog!.
All this talk about the Hildabeast reminds me about the time when I had on the Allan Colmes radio show back in 2008, right around the time she was gonna announce her run for prez. Some caller came on voicing his support for Hillz and was practically weeping with emotion. He was saying stuff like she will take care of the county because she has a womb. Even Allan, an H supporter himself, was taken aback by unnecessary emotion from the caller.
I can’t help but think there are plenty of other weenies that want some mother-figure in office to take care of them and kiss their boo boos and make everything better.
Interesting…
it may have been a “plant”; its the type of slick move I would expect out of a shifty sloot like her.
Join the club… I’ve still got comments on previous threads awaiting.
Can’t keep anything nice around here.
Guys,
99.9 percent of my comments go through — Ignore my tips and tricks to your great frustration.
This whole distraction about 9-1-1 becomes more and more pointless if the moderator isn’t going to get off his ass.
Mine too; but Im black and ugly.
Goyim treat you as a jew, yiddisher treat you as a lower-than-goy schwarze. The schwarzes treat you as an abomination.
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Some of my comments are still on the slave ship.
Great blog. Too bad comment moderation is so fucking abysmal.
Voting. Ha.