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While peer reviewed, double blind, metafantastic research on the subject is hard to come by, there is a general consensus among men who have experience with women beyond licking their taints in the comments section of feminist blogs that the less attention whoring a woman the better candidate she is for a long-term relationship. The causal mechanism for this observed reality is theoretical at this point, but a reasonable proposition is that attention-craving women — like this one — have oversized egos which require constant external validation.

Women without this need for ego stroking from the betatariat and BFF choruses are, on the whole, more grounded and fulfilled with their private love lives. While they are just as attracted to desirable alpha males as any social media mistress who sells pieces of her soul to Instagram, the attention eschewing woman represents less risk as a long-term romantic investment, because her sexual and communal energy is more inward- than outward-directed.

What is a poosy paradise for most men? It is a place where, or a time when, the women are beautiful, sexually hungry, and also sexually faithful, with an eye toward long, loving relationships while they are still in their youthful primes. You can find these places by word of mouth, or by extensive travel. You can also narrow your search by collating online social media data by country and discovering where the women are least likely to whore for attention.

Probably the best data rich vein is Facebook. The average number of friends that a country’s (or a region’s) women have on Facebook is a pretty good indicator of the mean level of national attention whoring. Internet penetrance (heh) is broad enough in developed countries that fair comparisons between Facebook friend numbers can be made by country. (I suppose if you want to Game Africa, this comparison system will do you no good.)

Commenter corvinus writes,

But even your normal white American male of German-Irish-English descent has to contend with the fact that about one-third of women in their twenties are FAT, and the desirable women usually have several male orbiters and never have to worry about not having a boyfriend until they’re north of 35.

One thing I’ve noticed based on Facebook is that the hot American girls usually have over 500 “friends”, and very often over 1,000 (including plenty of frat boys that they’ve known for years and can pick from for their next boyfriend), whereas Eastern European girls tend to have only about 100 or so. I myself was never in a fraternity, and only became halfway socially adept after coming here a couple years ago, and I’m now into my early thirties. So I have a serious disadvantage as per social connections go.

Crack CH researchers trawled the net and found some social media data that helps clarify where in the world the worst attention whores reside. While the following graph isn’t separated by sex, it’s safe to assume the overall comparison is similar for both men and women across countries, even if there is a difference in average number of FB friends between the sexes within countries.

Within America, it should surprise no one that the attention whores congregate in the Northeast and Midwest, where careerist feminists and fat single moms predominate. The attention whoring in the South is probably driven by their large black population. Squinting a little, the attention whore map overlays fairly closely with the Red State-Blue State political map (especially the one that drills down to the county level, where racial political differences are more apparent). The big outlier would be the Pacific Northwest, where people take pride in their friendship selectivity.

Worldwide, Russia and Eastern Europe look like the places to be for pretty girls who don’t feel a delirious compulsion to hoard as many pretend friends as possible in an alternate virtual universe. And, again, this accords with personal experience: the EE chicks I’ve dated spent far fewer hours on Facebook per week than any American girl I’ve known.

Warm weather climates appear to be more Facebook friends-friendly, while cold weather climes the opposite. My guess is that this is a reflection of broad racial differences in temperament: K-selected, nuclear family people versus r-selected, social aggrandizing people. But there are plenty of exceptions to this rule.

In Europe, the Anglo countries don’t fair so well. Feminism was birthed in the Anglo crucible, and it is within the Anglosphere where the fruits of feminism and you-go-grrlism are most overripe. Five decades blowing buttercups up girls’ muumuus is bound to have a deleterious effect on their egos and need for infinite validation.

Beyond Eastern Europe, Japan looks like a good bet for finding women who avoid attention whoring. If you’re a white Western man, Japan is tailor-made for romantic adventure: feminine women with self-sustaining egos and men who go to bed with pillow girlfriends as competition. Just gotta get past those flat asses…

159 Responses to “Finding A Poosy Paradise By Women’s Number Of Facebook Friends”

  1. JayMan says:

    Assuming that these data are reliable, why would I not be surprised if all those Facebook friends of Icelanders are mostly cousins?

    • dufur maximur says:

      Ha ha. Yeah, whether they know it or not.

    • Arbiter says:

      Reliable? Maybe, but Heartiste’s interpretation is not very reliable.

      Worldwide, Russia and Eastern Europe look like the places to be for pretty girls who don’t feel a delirious compulsion to hoard as many pretend friends as possible in an alternate virtual universe.

      1. Eastern Europe has less Facebook friends? Wishful fetishist thinking causing map blindness? Germany, France and Spain all have a darker shade of blue than East European countries, and is that Slovenia and Croatia who are all the way up in the yellow range?

      2. Russia has VKontakte instead of Facebook. One would think a Russo-fetishist would know that.

      Speaking of the morally superior Russians with their resistance to Hollywood conditioning, which of these videos advertises the Poosy Paradise the best?

      • Caramba says:

        Great sum up Arbiter.
        Also these videos quite accurately show an average young russian girl nowadays.

      • Carlos Danger says:

        Cerebro of course. This is one of their more Americanized videos, but all of their stuff is good. All of their Russian songs are better. I’m convinced Caramba just doesn’t want us dating his women.

  2. walawala says:

    In Hong Kong..anecdotally Facebook is a place where attention whores live. The girls in my social circle try to outdo each other by posting photos of outings with their beta orbiters.

    The photos generally take on the form of attention whore, a few friends, then a few beta orbiters. The beta orbiters are evident by the way they’re leaning in.

    Also, this concept now of “defriending” takes on broader significance.

    My now ex gf de-friended me a few weeks after we broke up.

    Then her friends limited my access to their photos.

    Clearly this cyber world provides yet another tool of manipulation.

    If you’re “friended” by the princess, you can comment and fluff her ego.

    Also, my now ex gf broke up once before just a few days before my birthday.

    Of course I got tons of birthday wishes from other girls.

    She quietly posted and I liked all the greetings except hers.

    She noted this and began crying uncontrollably when we ran into each other a week later.

    Then when she broke up with me, I had a huge event and posted photos of this gala. I noted she deliberately didn’t “like” any of those photos.

    There is game involved in Facebook.

    Generally I use it as a communications tool to message people in my social circle or notify them of events.

    Occasionally I’ll post photos of me and some buddies or girls I’m hanging with in some social situation.

    • corvinus says:

      Also, if a girl is satisfied with her boyfriend, she’ll collect beta orbiters but refuse alpha interlopers. If she’s single or unsatisfied, she’ll accept alphas and may be more selective about accepting beta orbiters.

  3. Patriarch says:

    This is why I rarely hunt on Facebook anymore here in the states.
    It’s easier to catch them whores off balance in the grocery store.

  4. Kim du Toit says:

    “Just gotta get past those flat asses…”

    Can’t. Nor the squeaky voices, which rise to dog-whistle frequency during sex.

  5. How does one make use of Facebook when you’re not on Facebook?

  6. NothingMan00 says:

    I’ve always thought it would be interesting to get a correlation value between a woman’s looks on the 1-10 scale and number of Facebook friends.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      What would be interesting is if you could get a sufficiently large neural network of data and a sufficiently awesome facial recognition software package so as to automate the judging of the beauty.

      Probably the [various & endemic] Yid Pornographers & Child Molesters at Facebook and Google and Bing are already hard at work on that challenge.

      Before you know it, Jeff Bezos will be sending Annie Leibovitz, via automated flying drone, directly to the homes of 13-year-old Shiksa girls’, for their first big porn spreads in Kindle Vanititty Fair, based solely on a single picture that the poor girl has uploaded to the internet.

      Hell, if they work hard enough on their algorithms, then they can get the flying drone to take the photo spread itself, and thereby save on the overhead of having to hire [and levitate] ol’ Annie Leibovitz each time.

      • FamilyMan says:

        I believe ALL of that technology exists now, and a clever individual could probably put it together and start it going for under $5000 and a summer’s hardware and software hacking.

        • Zombie Shane says:

          Yeah, we’ve had a ton of good ideas here at the chateau lately.

          We should be millionaires by now.

      • NothingMan00 says:

        You’ve glimpsed the future, Shane. I’m reminded of a recent South Park episode where all the elementary school girls went to a “gym” where a trainer yelled at them as they sat at a bank of computers and Photoshopped themselves at a breakneck pace to look hotter.

    • corvinus says:

      Based on personal observation, there is indeed. Also, if a woman is fairly attractive (say, a 6) but has a small number of friends (less than 100 or so), she’s almost guaranteed to be a psycho.

      • corvinus says:

        I’ve always thought it would be interesting to get a correlation value between a woman’s looks on the 1-10 scale and number of Facebook friends.

        If I were to take a crude stab at it, in the USA, it would be this, more or less:

        Looks(1to10) = 10 * log (#FF/100)

        where #FF is Number of Facebook Friends and log is base 10 log.

        • corvinus says:

          …and if her looks are too high for what she “should” be getting, she’s less of an attention whore than the average girl.

  7. Fearless says:

    The data is correct but we can’t forget that there are other social media sites used around the world that facilitate attention whoring. I.e… China is low on the fb scale but they still whore out on Weibo.

  8. Zombie Shane says:

    > “But even your normal white American male of German-Irish-English descent has to contend with the fact that about one-third of women in their twenties are FAT, and the desirable women usually have several male orbiters and never have to worry about not having a boyfriend until they’re north of 35.”

    > “In Europe, the Anglo countries don’t fair so well. Feminism was birthed in the Anglo crucible, and it is within the Anglosphere where the fruits of feminism and you-go-grrlism are most overripe. Five decades blowing buttercups up girls’ muumuus is bound to have a deleterious effect on their egos and need for infinite validation.”

    MULTIPLE STINGS OF LAND-WHALES IN HEAT:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2527748/Emergency-services-busy-night-Mad-Friday-descends.html

    Say what you want about the Soccer Hooligans, but those mother-fuckers know how to party.

    End-Times Drunken Debauchery Incurable Venereal Disease Game FTW.

    • Zombie Shane says:

      “MULTIPLE STINGS ” = MULTIPLE SITINGS

      although the misspelling kinda works

      • Zombie Shane says:

        ack

        siting = sighting

        fuck me go i’m going senile

        • Zombie Shane says:

          > “fuck me go i’m going senile”

          fuck me I can’t even say “fuck me i’m going senile”

          fucking infinite loop of fucking fuck me’s

    • Jay in DC says:

      Thank you for some more photographic evidence of what most of here already know. UK women are fucking pigs, just like their counterparts in the States. I remember a couple articles ago some dude coming in here saying UK women were hot. Uhhh…. yeah, no. Not even a little.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        From the look of it, pigs who like to get drunk and “rut” their little boxes off.

        http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rut

        Those bitches are practically raping the dudes who are with them.

        Heavily-Inebriated Land-Whales-In-Heat Biological Imperative-Game FTW.

      • zmbikilr says:

        A very few are, but the battleaxe gene runs strong. Crossing the channel to France is much better. Went to Iceland recently, and there are some exceptional beauties there, but the population is nothing. I don’t know how they have avoided inbreeding there. Germany is a bit like the UK, but with a higher and better looking proportion of exceptions. We can thank the Vikings for improving the gene pool around Europe, I believe.

      • Savant says:

        Even though Eastern European women have the reputation for being good to go I’ve learned from many of them that they consider British (including Irish)and American women as fat unfeminine sluts. Their men echo those sentiments.

    • FuriousFerret says:

      Serious question. Do English people simply not care about their looks?

    • Uncle Elmer says:

      It’s Mondo Kane 2013.

    • spliige says:

      any country that has english history will have that amerucan influence. gureenteed india and middle east will get worse as it devolops an when more feminst media keeps pouring in. i got indian girls an afghan girl on facebook an they just love the attention they get…huge princess mentalty.

    • Caramba says:

      Here are some revolting pictures from a club in Omsk,Russia: http://vk.com/album-51598886_172408440

      If you want to post “shocking”pics with degenerates,you will find them anywhere in the world.Its just a selection.

      besides its some shit hole up north.London f.e. is full of very very very hot women.British women too.

    • Carlos Danger says:

      America is like a low class version of Britain. How embarrassing.

      • Zombie Shane says:

        Always has been.

        Always will be.

        Sincerely yours,

        Your friendly neighborhood wrong-side-of-the-tracks redneck trail-trash Scots-Irishmen

        [“Fuck The Elites, Fuck The Elites’ Mothers, And Fuck The Elites’ Horses That They Rode Into Town On” Game FTW.]

  9. onelife111 says:

    i can vouch for this. the russian/ukrainian version of facebook is actually vkontakte (translates to “in contact”) and even the hot girls here have around 100 friends, give or take.

    • sup dawg says:

      I currently live in a small town (slightly less than 100,000 people), and even some 8′s here have north of 500 friends on VK. Obvious attention whores, but it’s hard to find a gem in the mud (a real hottie with few friends).

  10. newly aloof says:

    I rarely log in to Facebook. Had the account open for years and only go on there when my email notifies me of someone trying to friend me that I can’t remember. Just yesterday some chick wants to friend me and I honestly don’t remember who she is or if I had any past with the girl. Such a trip. I don’t know the FB settings but she has hers set so that I could see her pictures and see she had a couple kids. Seriously, when does she need me as a “friend”.

    CH, Ya, how would you respond to this if you wanted to :
    1. fuck her
    2. just fuck with her and lead her on
    3. blow her out of the water in a dick way

    Just curious. I don’t know what the F is stopping me from deleting the account again.

    • A Random Guy says:

      I honestly don’t understand why you’d want to do #2 or #3. I mean, do you get some kind of kick out of being an asshole?

      • Gro Haila says:

        Is that a brave whynite on his mightee white steed?

        • A Random Guy says:

          LOL. Yeah, sure, because I ask why he wants to mind-fuck some chick who sent him a friend request, when he can’t even remember if she might know him? Asking why someone *wants* to be an asshole for no good reason, makes me a white knight? Okay, then, carry on…

    • Jay in DC says:

      Door 1 is the only door. 2-3, for me, would be a complete waste of time. Some busted chick w/ kids is at the bottom of any priority list I would have on any given day.

  11. FamilyMan says:

    Go to Florida, young man!? Who’d a thunk Florida would be one of the lowest states for attention whoring? Or maybe the girls are busy attention whoring in person in skimpy outfits rather than hunting and pecking on a keyboard. All in all it looks promising there.

    NYC has a good (low) male/female ratio so the high number of fb friends may reflect social desperation by the girls; I have never seen anyone disagree that it’s better for men in NYC than LA.

    I am from the east coast and I like it better than the west anyway. But maybe while I wasn’t looking / out of the dating pool, my home area has gone to hell and I haven’t noticed …

    • corvinus says:

      Go to Florida, young man!? Who’d a thunk Florida would be one of the lowest states for attention whoring? Or maybe the girls are busy attention whoring in person in skimpy outfits rather than hunting and pecking on a keyboard. All in all it looks promising there.

      Or Nevada, Land of Sin. You can’t screw people if you have your nose glued to your smart phone.

  12. Amy says:

    Wow, Iceland! Too cold to go outside and socialize in person?

    • Totally effeminized culture. They are the descendents of Vikings, so they had to be made to pay the hardest and worst. PM is (was? dunno, not up on their elections) an out lesbian, and their entire law system is being re-written to basically make men into factually legal second class serfs. The Swedes are their model, where the word “boy” is being removed from school text books. It’s no surprise from Iceland.

      Shame too, what, being descended from Vikings. So much for the brave Viking warrior type to the rescue.

      • Savant says:

        That, sadly, is true about Iceland. And they’re rapidly becoming culturally enriched as well. I understand that there’s now ‘a thriving African community’ there. Apart from the weather it must be heaven for them. Beautiful White chicks who screw at the drop of a hat, and really generous welfare.

        • zmbikilr says:

          I visited there and never saw one negro, not even a visitor. I saw a muzzie, and maybe a dark Indian but that’s about it. I’d guess the negro population probably was cut by 99% when the US closed the base in Keflavik. Then again, a thriving African community in Iceland would be a couple of spooks hanging out at a Naesti Mart.

          • Savant says:

            ‘I’d guess the negro population probably was cut by 99% when the US closed the base in Keflavik.’

            Maybe, but these guys generally leave a lot of mementos wherever they go, Parenting skills aren’t their strong point, as we all know.

        • Grim says:

          Who the fuck cares about these other cultures bro? I’ve got my own problems here in the US with these BITCHES.

      • Arbiter says:

        Where the word “boy” is being removed from school textbooks? Internet stupidity strikes again. No, it is not being removed. You have heard some rumor somewhere and of course, American mongrels love to hate Germanics. The jealousy of Germanic good looks is given a green light from the establishment’s anti-Germanic propaganda. Or when you’re conservative, you can always express the hatred by saying the Nordics are too un-conservative. Any excuse works.

        • Skunk says:

          I hear in Sweden there is cultural pressure for the men to sit down to pee.

          • Caramba says:

            I know a Greek guy who asked all the guys to sit down while peeing in his toilet.He was from all-sisters family

  13. rastov says:

    In russia, there are other social networks like vk other than fb. women have friends there.

    • corvinus says:

      VKontakte seems somewhat more selective. I think that you have to be invited to join it by a current member. Whereas on FB, you can make a profile for your dog and nobody thinks twice.

  14. TRr says:

    Eastern Europeans aren’t big FB users, so I don’t think FB is a good measure.

    They use a site vk.com

  15. Gr8YT says:

    I think you may be over-thinking this one. Other than the left-coast (which I admit is a gigantic outlier) everything looks to correlate close with population density.

    If I had to guess, mean # of FB Friends is a good indicator of “social cohesion” and more of a measure of ethnic/cultural homogeniety than status-whoreingness. Otherwise, why isn’t California some share of IR? Didn’t CA make statuswhoring the center of their economy?

  16. mac a milla says:

    I’ve hung out with these non attention whoring women overall and they are still way more attention whoring than the average beta. Everything these non attention whoring women do is for an alpha they want to attract. They will drop an omega or beta boyfriend for a night with an alpha.

    Women everywhere only love alphas, love babies, love beta money, and hate omegas.
    Geography and culture have little to do with it.

  17. Lucky White Male says:

    Wall Street bankers cheering at ” Wolf of Wall Street” screening

    http://www.businessinsider.com/banker-pros-cheer-wolf-of-wall-street-2013-12

    Scorsese releasing on the day Jesus Christ was born. At least half of MSM reviews critical, asking ‘ Why was this movie made?’ ( Read: what they don’t like is the particular ethnic group portrayed…)

    DiCaprio: ‘ I felt this story needed to be put up on a screen, front and center’

    • baldwin says:

      So how did that one slip thru the net?

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Chutzpah.

        And the fact that Scorcese is one of the “allowed” opposition, because he never really shines too harsh a light except upon his own and (occasionally) the Irish.

    • Arbiter says:

      Ethnic group? But Jordan Belfort is White. (Brainwashed leftist prostitute DiCaprio loves making anti-White movies. He knows on which side his bread is buttered.) They would never make a movie about Bernard Madoff, Jewish Wall Street guy fooling other Jews in the New York network.

      I remember watching a group of female reporters, all or most Jewish, discussing some Wall Street issues, and when it came to Madoff they clearly lost their objectivity; this was personal to them. One of them said, “Everyone in the community lost money!” Then she caught herself, knowing the was on camera, and straightened her dress while adding in a more restrained voice, “The Jewish community.”

      Because it was fairly known that Bernie Madoff scammed his fellow Jews. But when a reporter simply refers to that as “The Community”, that is a very disturbing signal.

  18. Troubadour says:

    I know a chick from a poosy paradise country with a Facebook, and I’m not permitted to be one of her friends. Her husband must approve of each and every one of her friends, and that’s how you keep the ego monster from blooming now that she’s over here in the land of divorce rape and alimony.

    I don’t think he’s handling it well, but he’s managing. She started pulling some shit tests so he called her father, and he cussed her out in blagablo or whatever, and she came back and said, “Ohhhhhh, I bad, I sorry, I not obey husband.” He can keep her in line until her old man croaks, but then what? It doesn’t matter if you drop $30,000 on all the legal bullshit (divorce, immigration, etc.) or not, she’s still a woman.

    Which makes me realize that the last piece has clicked for me. My state has been out of whack because getting fat is a shit test, and I’m failing it. I can’t ever be alpha enough to get her to lose down to a reasonable weight, and yet I’m not leaving either (because I pretty much can’t, shhhhh). Then I realized that being able to cheat with no fear whatsoever of reprisal is the other way you win that shit test. This is MY house. I’m not sneaking around hiding shit and feeling guilty, scared of her damn lawyer getting evidence. She ain’t gonna call no damn lawyer. Her life would suck without me.

    I have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it further.

    I owe CH some donation money. This blog saved me $50,000 easy.

  19. askjoe says:

    that betapedia screencap was gold

    • Arbiter says:

      The link to betapedia had me reading up on the “brony” tag for too long. It makes you plan remedies involving billyclubs and chainsaws.

  20. ijj says:

    that’s bullshit data. you should check how many friends your russian girls have on vkontakte. japanese i suppose also have their own social networks

  21. Rosalie says:

    Sorry, but this post is one of the weakest on CH. Russian girls have Vkontakte and there are other regional/ national socialising networking sites in EE where you can truly appreciate the level of national sluttiness. EE girls are not less whorish than their Western counterparts – alas, sometimes they are worse (I’m telling this as a EE woman). An EE woman can have 5 friends on FB and semi-nude photos of herself on Vkontakte or other regional social sites.

    • Jay in DC says:

      I strongly doubt even on VK, they compete at the same level as Western chicks. And just to play devil’s advocate, even if they did— Seeing some thin EE hottie in a half naked selfie is 1000 percent better than seeing some fast food fatty in same said pic.

      • Arbiter says:

        “I strongly doubt even on VK, they compete at the same level”

        –How do you know? Just making things up because of wishful thinking? Do they have superior genes that resist Hollywood brainwashing? No.

        A certain segment of Americans are used to drooling over Russian women they see in magazine ads talking about “Russian women with traditional values”, but that is bullshit. Russian culture is particularly cold, sadistic and brutal. Jokes in Russia are all about laughing at other people’s misery. Everything is about licking the boots of those above you and kicking at those below you. It is a truly sick place. Russia, home of the rape porn, and even that they fail at completely.

        The women become jadened and cold because they have to be, with those men around them. More than 60 percent of Russian women say that they have to give the boss sexual favors in order to advance. The majority of Russian women say they have been molested at work. So, what happens? They treat the weaker men the same way they themselves are treated by the stronger men. There is a phenomenon in Russia, where young attractive women keep guys as “wallets”. These guys get to pay for them, buy them clothes and handbags, in exchange for going with them while they are shopping, and perhaps holding the girl’s hand.

        The girls have real boyfriends at the same time as they keep a “wallet”. Want to be a wallet? Order a Russian mail-order bride with “traditional values” and she’ll make sure your money comes to good use.

    • Caramba says:

      I just posted the same.
      VK has tenfold more audience than FB.VK ,in particular,is popular among younger chicks.

      I just have checked my girl contacts on VK,I hardly can find any girl with a # of friends less than 50-100.

      But this is also very correlated with age.Generally 25+ chicks do tend to have smaller friends circles on VK

      • corvinus says:

        I just have checked my girl contacts on VK,I hardly can find any girl with a # of friends less than 50-100.

        What’s the average number? About 200-300 or so?

        Here in the USA, the hot girls usually have about 1,000 or even more.

        • Arbiter says:

          Why, clearly if a girl has 1,000 Facebook friends instead of 300, she is that much sluttier.

          The fact that the research in link in the article shows that almost no one has 1,000 friends should not come in the way of typical anti-scientific guesswork, without which most justifications for one’s animosities could be made. Keep dreaming of those traditional Russian women. It’s not you who are to blame for being single, it’s the American women who are wrong.

        • Caramba says:

          Well the hottest girl in my list,solid 9,has 480.
          6s and 7s have around 200-300 on average.I have one 8 who is an actual escort now,she s got just below 300.But I am sure she must have another professional profile.

          I have some of 27+ girls,they tend to have around 50-100,no more than that.

          • corvinus says:

            Thanks, Caramba. This is what we need to know.

            If the hottest girl you know has 480, the corresponding American HB9 would have about 1,500-2,000. 6s and 7s here in the USA tend to be up in the 600-1,000 range.

            It thus appears that the chart provided, while too lumpy for my taste, is more or less accurate, even after taking VK into account.

  22. dsgntd_plyr says:

    VK.com is a Russian language FB clone. You need to add that data for ex-USSR countries.

  23. Elviscerated says:

    Anyone who writes about “feminism” as if it were just a phenomenon that popped up out of nowhere, without mentioning the influence Jewish power has exerted in bringing it about, is either ignorant or part of the hostile-elite takeover. FB is just another part of that same scam.

    Using women’s natural frivolous tendencies, brought about by thousands of years of evolution, the Jewish power-brokers have brilliantly goaded them over the precipice at the edge of which they had been perilously standing all the while, reined in only by the barriers of Christianity and Tradition. These walls were brought down by deception and guile, and our women have now forged on ahead into the void unimpeded: they are currently in free-fall, and we men are doing nothing to stop the plunge.

    On the contrary, the “gamers and PUAs” see it as an opportunity and take advantage of these women while they’re on their way down, having a lot of “fun” the whole time, that is, until the cold harsh ground of reality finally exacts its price, and we all end up gnarled at the bottom of a civilization-less pit.

    • Savant says:

      Feminism has been ‘Their’ greatest achievement, better than mass immigration to White countries, AA, bogus theories of equality, psychoanalysis or all the others WMDs used to attack us. If you destroy the nuclear family all else follows.

      • Arbiter says:

        Yep. In fact, I read a quote from a feminist Marxist who said exactly that: “If the family falls the rest follows, so let’s get on with it.”

      • Carlos Danger says:

        It’s in the opening passages of the Communist Manifesto.

  24. Celtic says:

    This comparison doesnt work with other cultures thrown into the mix. The phillipines and thailand are the two greatest poosy paradises in the world, and they both rank as having high average facebook friend counts.

    Figuring out what places are good for girls isnt something you can figure out by looking at numbers. You need to research and talk to people who have been to the country.

  25. AlphaBeta says:

    From Wikipedia, another reason why it sucks to be beta, or lower status than your woman: you’ll experience pregnancy like a little bitch! “Couvade syndrome, also called sympathetic pregnancy appears to be more common where sex roles are flexible and the female is of a dominant status.”

    • The Burninator says:

      Seriously? That’s hilarious! I’ll bet with the same kind of “men” who strap on fake breasts and fake tummies under their powder pink shirts.

      I have two kids and never had any sympathetic “symptoms” whatsoever. The worst thing that happened during pregnancy was that the wife would get major moody and I’d have to go mow the law or work on the car. Sometimes up to 17 times per week. We had one hell of a well kept lawn for at least two years, and the oil came out clear and clean from the ‘vette many times, heh.

  26. The Burninator says:

    Not the best article CH. Not wildly bad or anything, but lacking a bit. As others have pointed out, there are major foreign social network sites that other nations use more than FB so it’s really not a even vaguely accurate measure outside of the West. Granted you did say that data was scarce, so that’s fair, but I’d probably not have gone on with the article after coming to that realization, personally.

    Decent articles on this site, but avoiding Confirmation Bias is important to the integrity of the movement I think. The last thing we want is to devolve into what other movements are, basically navel gazing cheer squads that find “proof” of their viewpoints in everything. Like how gays claim that everybody famous in history was (secretly, of course) gay, etc.

    If I’m not on tomorrow, Merry Christmas everybody.

    • blogster says:

      True, but this is like saying an episode of The Sopranos was average – still better than anything else on TV at the time.

  27. Bobb Dobbs says:

    “In the scope of my research, a feminist programming language is to be built around a non-normative paradigm that represents alternative ways of abstracting. The intent is to encourage and allow new ways of thinking about problems such that we can code using a feminist ideology.”

    http://www.hastac.org/blogs/ari-schlesinger/2013/11/26/feminism-and-programming-languages

    • pulsotic says:

      Ok, so that’s a real thing? Dafuck is wrong with people?

      In the comments there I found this gem:
      http://www.zachblas.info/projects/queer-technologies/
      So now they have a “solution” for male/female binary code.
      How can anyone be a part of that and be sane?
      Which is more proof for me that being gay is a mental disease.

      When will the gays and feminists change the wall outlets and plugs to have both genders so it doesn’t offend anyone?

      • Patriarch says:

        Mental illness indeed.
        I just spent the evening with a 19 year old brunette.
        How any dude could reject the soft velvety flesh of the barely legal teeny bopper in favor of a guy is far beyond me.
        Homofaggots are a waste of neurons.

  28. Mitch Cumstein says:

    You can also tell how crazy a girl is by how many profile pictures she has. Most girls in their 20s have had FB since around 2007. So…two dozen? Normal. 50? A little attention-seeking. More than 100? Run.

  29. Caramba says:

    You are missing out massively here,seriously.You couldn’t be more wrong.

    Facebook is not used by Russian speaking chicks. VK is (also,Odnoklasniki is for Milfs).

    Average number of friends on VK,the amount of attention whoring on VK is STAGGERING.Actually its bigger than on Facebook,swear.At least, to my eye.

    One of the most annoying habits of russian and ukrainian chicks is to constantly publish citations from attention seeking,vanile smelling,pink coloured public groups…calling men to Beta-up (a.k.a “treat a woman like princess,be yourself bla-bla).

    I don’t know how to proof my point stronger,just ask any reasonably intelligent russian guy around.Or ask online,god knows.

    But this post is based on a massive misconception.

    • Live-Evil says:

      The statement is probably the best on this post. This post doesn’t take into account that many parts of the world do not use Facebook as their primary social networking tool.

  30. Andrew S. says:

    The Midwest is mostly shit. I’ve seen many guys that are not from here or don’t travel here much that think Midwestern women are just nice, down home, sweet ladies. But CH is right. A ton of feminists, fat single moms everywhere, and about 12% to 15% of women that are 7 or above. If you’re an average looking, or even below average looking woman, the Midwest is your paradise. Hell for most men though.

  31. Caramba says:

    I do understand the point of promoting some foreign women in the face of domestic ones.I do the same.

    But don’t look for honey where there is none really.Russian chicks are on top of attention whoring.Dig deeper and you will see it.

    • Jay in DC says:

      You seem to be missing one very important concept. Let me break it down.

      So women are the same everywhere. Got it. So they will be hypergamous, attention whoring, entitled, and annoying.

      Do you want these traits from a HB8+ or from a “Nigel Big Game Hunter” American landwhale?

      Do the math.

      • Caramba says:

        The disadvantage of dating Russian women overweight advantages.Though I am not sure how terrible American women are (though I believe you completely) ,but I have found relationships with women from several European countries much more satisfactory on many points.And I have not gone low in quality at all.In my personal HB ranking the hottest Ukrainian does not even make the top 5.

        And besides all the foreign men I know who are dating Russian/Ukrainian are never with a woman hotter than 7 anyways.

      • Arbiter says:

        “You seem to be missing one very important concept” and slimness doesn’t excuse young Russian women keeping guys as “wallets” who get to pay for their handbags and shoes in exchange of following them to the store and holding hands, while they have real boyfriends at the same time. It doesn’t excuse notoriously bitchy behavior, a way to get by in a sadistic, raw culture. It doesn’t excuse enormously high abortion rates and leading divorce rates.

        It doesn’t excuse the ugly faces either – many Russian women have that look with aggressive wrinkles on each side of the nose, like they are perpetually wrinkling their noses. Weird.

        Wishful thinking. It is the enemy of truth. The grass is not greener on the other side,

  32. Caramba says:

    Also,the logic is not solid.According to you,less attention whoring=better relationships,better love life generally.So why is Russia #1 in divorces (I posted here ones you have re-twitted it i remember)?
    Any man who has successfully metabolized a red-pill knows that divorces predominantly come from women.Why do they divorce than if they are happy?

    Not your best post.But thanks for your time,nevertheless.

    • Tilikum says:

      you might be right but divorce in America may not equal divorce in Russia.

      Fuck me, this isn’t that hard.

      • Caramba says:

        It is quite hard,trust me.There are web sites for me in divorce,legal help,emotional support and sutff..and trust me the stories there are just mind blowing.

        Some things in US are actually better.

    • zmbikilr says:

      Alcoholism and finances.

    • pulsotic says:

      I’m having a hard time with your english. According to some russians here, the VK site is notorious for attention whoring russian women, so #1 in divorce would be about right.

      I find your allusion to “mind-blowing” stories of divorce intriguing. It would be great if you could find relevant articles on divorce that we could translate to english.

  33. Tilikum says:

    no fb. i end up messing with the tougher girls too (I like a challenge cause most women are boring) and it kills em. convo starter.

    • Grim says:

      What is a tough girl?

      • Tilikum says:

        brats. mother hens. alpha-ish chicks.

        the girls used to fighting off the attacks of lesser yet more competitive women,so they form a hard veneer. usually hot as hell.

        i wanna see if i can get one of them to agree to cooperation, but they, to a tee, cant get past their solipsism. if i can find one though, it will be a sign of extreme intelligence. i’ll probably do something stupid.

  34. little spoon says:

    What do you even do on fb that takes hours? I know you can comment on walls and send invites but how do you even turn that into hours per week?

    Oh well. Some of us hang out on blogs for hours a week. Fb is for people who have no need for anonymity because all of their ideas stay within the lines. They can’t offenda anyone and they are not original enough to express ideas outside of accepted social norms. If everyone were like blog people then maybe id be on facebook all day too.

    • pulsotic says:

      Get defriended a couple times and you realize that FB ain’t for you.

      • Amy says:

        Defriending isn’t necessarily a bad thing, if it’s a girl you’re interested in. It’s the equivalent of a girl telling you she’s ticked off and/or she hates you. If I want to ignore a guy on FB I just put him on the restricted list so he can’t see what I’m up to. Defriending is when you want to kick up drama and provoke a reaction.

      • Patriarch says:

        Wear pajamas
        Drink hot chocolate
        Facebook is srs bsnss

  35. NeoBushi says:

    I’m pretty sure the data for Russian speaking countries is unreliable because most russian/Ukrainian girls I have dated use a different social networking site. I forget the name atm.

  36. Uncle Elmer says:

    What’s “Facebook”?

  37. Reggie Farts says:

    this is a worthwhile blog post. Not sure i’d move to a country specifically to find a wife, but the points about attention whoring are undoubtedly truth

  38. Prof. Woland says:

    My wife is Russian. Russians tend to have a very small tight circle of friends with whom they are very close. In part, this is probably a hangover from the Soviet days when informers, commissars, and block watchers would rat out anyone who they suspected of being better than them. You had to be very careful who your friends where. The other thing is that Russian women and men hang out in separate circles. None of this coed BS. The men all hunt, fish, and drink together (no golf there) and the women chat and gossip.

    • Caramba says:

      As a Ukrainian I find your words an absolute bs.Not even close

      How old is your wife?

      • Prof. Woland says:

        It is a relative statement from me, an American, something you would not know anything about.

        • Arbiter says:

          “It is a relative statement from me, an American,” — How is that an argument in support of what you claim?

          • Prof. Woland says:

            That is my perspective which is relative to my experience. In other words, as an American … It sounds like the hohol sees it different.

          • Gro Haila says:

            I second the perfessor. East europe is no coed bullshit.

          • Caramba says:

            You have spelled hohol incorrectly,moron. Kh is fricative.

  39. F. Nietzsche says:

    This is true. Even most of the Russian strippers I stalk on Facebook have a modest friend count and don’t attention whore much if at all

  40. Live-Evil says:

    Must be something wrong with the data collection… Florida surely has a much higher median Facebook friend count.

  41. mcfaggerton says:

    not sure if this was mentioned yet because I dont want to read all of the comments, but facebook alone is a terrible metric. people in former soviet states use vkontakte instead of facebook, and russian people are currently taking to social media MUCH harder than your typical westerner. this will change very quickly, you heard it here first.

    • pulsotic says:

      ctrl-f “vkontakte” yields 6 hits! Next time maybe you should read the comments.

      I did not read it on your comment first.

    • Arbiter says:

      Plus that Germany, France and Spain all have a darker shade of blue – i.e. less Facebook contacts – than the East European countries, with some East European countries showing up as top-of-the-scale yellow, but CH still turns it into “Eastern Europe seems like the place to go” if you don’t want Facebook attention wh0ring. Say what? Talk about selective reading of the data. I recall Spain being called a beta nation in an earlier blog post (somewhat justified by the majority of Spanish men visiting Balkanese prostitutes), but when data shows up that supposedly disproves attention whoring among the Spanish female population, shouldn’t that be mentioned in Spain’s favor instead of being swept under the rug?

      The fact is, this “data” doesn’t show anything. Some countries have had Facebook much longer. Habits sometimes develop differently in different countries for little reason. The Philippines being yellow, nearby Indonesia being blue – does anyone believe that shows a significant difference in vanity?

      There is data and there is data. Hard data like the very high abortion rates (with abortions practically used as contraceptives, at least in the past) and divorce rates in Russia are data that actually show something. Taking Facebook habits and saying they maybe show this or that is far less reliable.

  42. Grim says:

    I promise you the biggest, most fucked up FB attention whore in the world lives in Florida. serious.

  43. Arbiter says:

    (What is it with comments simply not showing up sometimes?)

    No country is resistant to media brainwashing. No country should be idolized. The grass is not greener on the other side, excusing why you don’t have a girlfriend on your side. Russia, with its very high divorce rates and very high abortion rates, and the unique concept of girls keeping a “wallet” (guy who pays for expenses in exchange for brief attention) while also keeping a real boyfriend, is not a haven of “traditional values” as the mailorder-bride ads in hunting magazines would have it. For an illustration, consider these videos out of many:

    • Caramba says:

      Also in russian and ukrainian families wife always “keep a wallet”,using your words. A husband is supposed to give up his salary to a woman completely.And they do.

      All this shit makes me very ashamed of my beta compatriots.

  44. rookie says:

    Needs help guys. If I am in a higher position (by occupation) how can I use it to my best advantage when dealing with women? e.g. in context of work relationship such as boss and secretary or professor and graduate student.

  45. EENWD says:

    Germany, France and Spain is lower all of East Europe except for Russia which is the lowest.

    • Arbiter says:

      Russia has VK or VKontakte instead….

      Some things to think about when you wonder what Russian family life is like. The grass is not greener on the other side.

      –Russia has one of Europe’s highest levels of child poverty, far above any Western country.
      –Russia has the highest infant mortality rate in Europe.
      –Russia has a negative birthrate, the population declining by 0.48 percent per year.
      –Russia has one of the world’s highest suicide rates.
      –Russia has the world’s highest rate of heroin addiction.
      –Half of all Russian marriages end in divorce.

      –One in eight Russian deaths is due to alcoholism. Many of the other causes are affected by alcoholism.
      –Russian men have a life expectancy of only 60 years, due to male alcoholism – Russian women live thirteen years longer.
      –In 2007, Russian alcohol consumption had tripled since sixteen years earlier.
      –When Gorbachev came to power in the 1980s, one in three Russian workers stayed home from work every day, mostly due to alcohol consumption.

      –In a study of female professionals in Russia, 100 percent reported having been sexually harassed by their bosses.
      –32 percent of female professionals said they had had intercourse with their bosses at least once (those who refuse are often fired). 7 percent said they had been raped by their bosses.
      –One in five married Russian women are regularly beaten by their husbands.

      –Russia has the world’s highest abortion rates, with women often using cheap abortions instead of contraceptives.
      –In the early 1990s, 86 percent of Russian women had had at least one abortion.
      –In the early 1990s, the average Russian woman had already had three abortions at the age of twenty-five.
      –In 2001, 1.31 million children were born in Russia. The same year 2.11 million abortions were performed.

  46. MercifulBoss says:

    What is the policy on texting?

    I met this HB8 in a shopping mall during daygame with her friend. I opened with taking photos with them to post on fb and make my friends jealous. Needless to say I got their numbers, their fb’s. Next time when I logged on the HB8 opened me with “hey :)”, we talked for a bit and she said she’s down to go clubbing with me and my buds on the 26th (and invited me to a fb group to go clubbing on the 27th).

    I want to text her more often to see what’s up, but I don’t want to seem to keen/overtext/etc. Anyone have advice on how to game the girl while I’m at home or not talking to her in person?

    • Patriarch says:

      The date is set.
      Why do you want to text her before then?
      You have things to do in your own life, not sit around and play grabass via text. Texting all day is what she has her whore friends for.
      A simple confirmation by text or phone call the day of the event will be sufficient. Do not say “hey I was just making sure we were STILL on for tonight…”(because I’m absolutely terrified that you may break plans with me. I’m very nervous that at any moment you’re going to decide to flake out on me and the anxiety is driving me crazy so please just give me a little reassurance)is how she will take it . Any variation of confirming your plan will reak of insecurity from her perspective. Do not do it.
      Ask a question about the event. If she plans to flake, she will tell you as she answers your question.
      DO NOT ASK IF YOUR PLANS ARE STILL ON.
      If she flakes them play it off.
      Her: sorry we need to break plans.( This dude I used to fuck texted me and wants me to suck him off in a truckstop bathroom but im gonna tell you this shit) :
      My puppy is sick. Some other time tho lolz! :(
      You: oh thank jesus! An old ex of mine is wanting to catch up and she’s only in town tonight. I was afraid I was gonna have to bail on you! sry bout your puppy, hope he feels better!

    • Scray says:

      ya Pat’s advice is solid. Whenever you face a flake (or rly any bad situ), the best way to deal with it is to immediately spin it into a positive — ‘oh that works out great/that’s awesome…because I-have-a-life-too-blah-blah’

      And if you haven’t smashed her yet, then your texting should be extremely goal-oriented:

      1) DHV
      2) Get her in a good mood
      3) Secure the date
      4) Leave her the fuck alone

    • Cad and Bounder says:

      1. Don’t take pics with her to ‘make your friends jealous’. You are DLV with that. She is now on a facebook pedestal, and you are in danger of being put in the ‘Facebook beta orbiter’ box. YOU are the value. She should be in doubt as to whether you value her or not.

      2. Unless you are a socially proofed high-value man, and can prove it on FB, stay the fuck away from connecting with her on FB.

      3. Next time completely ignore her FB message. Wait. Then text her with something like “Hi, nice to meet you the other day, drink 9 Thursday at X’. Preferably you would have suggested meeting for a drink or a coffee, when you first met her so your next contact is free of any ambiguity.

      4. Don’t go ‘clubbing’. The clubbing frame is lots of loud music, attention seeking whores, and nightclub owners extracting money from wealthy beta spending money on the former. And every woman alive knows this.

      5. Meet her ALONE. For drinks. Sexually escalate. Fuck her. If she resists meeting you alone, then hold your frame, if she still wont meet you alone, then next her.

      Watch the Paul Janka videos on youtube, he is very very good.

      As for what you should do now….

      Flake on the clubbing date with her. In doing so by text, Go to 3 above.

      • Patriarch says:

        Yeah the the guy flaking is always a solid flip the script move. Even average looking girls hardly ever have a dude skip out on a date and when they do, they talk about the shit nonstop for days. My friend was gaming this girl and reframed from fucking her for the first few times they hung out, always heating her up with make outs and fooling around, always stopping just short of actual sex. Risky move, but the bitch was tearing her hair out trying to figure out his reason, ie what was wrong with her.

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  48. vinay3543 says:

    It really does pain and humour me in equal compliments when I see hundreds of guys “like”, positively comment or compliment a totally unimportant or irrelevant status by a woman on Facebook. Often these women are average at best (not that it should be any different is she’s cute or hot).

    Readers of this blog should be aware of the dangers of ego stroking, but as a back-up from this post:

    http://www.vinaywcmd.com/2013/12/the-curse-of-male-wolf-whistling.html

  49. Ponyman says:

    Seems like a serious case of bro-science.

    • Patriarch says:

      Seems very similar to what happens here at the Chateau. Interchangable internet attention slut posts a comment about how her cheap chenel panties don’t discolor as bad in the leakage zone as the walmart brand and you got some internet big brother smoothing her over, one clever message at a time,
      Convinced he’s showing the rest of us how it’s done.

  50. Dreamer says:

    I remember I once made this observation and passed it around to a few friends. This was back in 2011, so some “friend” inflation may means the numbers are a little off now (or it got even worse or hold more accurate to college age).

    Copy and paste from old chat (with a slight editing):


    80-250 very down to earth, tendency to be “quirky” to say the least.

    250 to ~500 have moments of craziness, on the plus side, they tend to be more girly (edit: Normal girl)

    500 to 750 is have larger moments of craziness, but they can be sweet, as long you can deal with their crazy moments too.

    past 750 have even more of that

    past 1000, with one exception to ppl I know, is pure attention whore, but they tend to be hot

    Friends I shown found some truth in that. Interesting to see it is brought up here too. But I can’t say its scientific.

    I should note that while in theory the sub-250 girl would mean avoiding “American-ness” talked here, but I found it more trading that for nerdy quirkiness (minimally). Typically, if the girl is actually cute, it is still hidden librarian style.

  51. richard says:

    What I’ve been doing lately for Facebook is tell the girl I don’t friend ANYONE on Facebook if she asks for my FB. This sets you apart because any guy would be dying to add her.

    Also a bonus: Stategically make some DHV pictures of yourself public. Any girl that is intrigued by you will do a search and then be tempted to find out even more …

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