Commenter Johnny Redux nails the answer to this post’s title with an ugly truth few men, let alone women, would be willing to confront head on, obliquely, or deniably:
A sexless marriage, in many (if not most) cases, is the result of a man marrying a woman his own age, and after time losing all sexual interest in her as she quickly morphs into an old woman before his eyes, much quicker than he is aging.
Men are maximally attracted to young women.
Men age more slowly than do women. (At least going by outward appearance.)
Men’s sexual worth climbs through their 30s and 40s while women’s sexual worth declines through their 30s and 40s.
Put the three preconditions together, and marriage between “age appropriate” men and women is a recipe for sexlessness, followed by lovelessness, and then finally divorce.
Which is why I advise men, if you’re gonna do something stupid like get married, make sure the deal is as sweet as it can be for you by choosing a younger woman to be your monogamously avowed last fuck. You’ll come to appreciate her extended shelf life when your married buddies are staring down the barrel of a dumpy hausfrau and dreaming of escape. You don’t want to wife up a woman on the wrong side of supple.
PS This post explains the true cause of “mid-life crisis”. The crisis is the rapidly diverging SMV values of the husband and wife. And the cure is trading up, fapping off, or dropping out.
The downside being you could spend your last years cucked without recourse. I know a woman who married her boss. He was fit, much older, wealthy. Took her sailing and to fancy dinners. Married her. Had 2 girls. And then age did hit him. And was she there assisting him through his decline? Nope. She was banging everything that would have her. And THEN, she moved one in to live in their large home on the lake while he was mostly bedridden.
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Cucks become old cucks. She probably respected the status, wealth, dinners, and trips, but not him. Getting old only exasperated the problem. Keep a firm pimphand and she’ll be begging your old ass to outlive her because she can’t bear the thought of living a day without you.
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“she, she life in death, she lets him live, the chosen one”
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Honestly, WTF does The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner have to do with your comment, makes no sense.
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Women’s loyalties are flickering and dependent upon their perceptions of how they’re treated. The old Scandinavians had a saying about women being like ice when crossed, unforgiving, far worse than men. Commentator Hergest is probably referring to a situation like that, a bitch who bitched-out upon having her pretty little toes stepped on.
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PRO-TIP FOR THE LADIES: Give your husband lots and lots and lots of children – not two or three, but six or eight.
Then when you hit The Wall, and the bedroom goes dead, at least he’s got some dadgum pr0geny by which to appreciate you.
Nothing takes man’s mind off of straying quite like a never-ending stream of family responsibilities which need attending to.
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And grandchildren help a man relive the joys of when he was raising his own children.
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Any white man who doesn’t have (or plan to have) at least 4 children is a de facto c-u-c-k
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The only reason I’m not settling down is that I’d like to have a huge family if I was to have one. I’m not going to reorient my life for one kid, but I would for five.
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The first kid is the life-changer… adding a few more after that is no big deal.
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If you’re going to have one son, you might as well have twelve, like Jacob. Only-children perpetuate the left, substituting the famly with “the movement,” and their faggot politics couldn’t survive without one-child domiciles. Why just make a baby when you can make a nation (like “Israel” né Jacob)? Will Mitt Romney inherit the earth?
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I’m not going to reorient my life for one kid, but I would for five.
This is a much better approach than CH’s blanket “if you’re gonna do something stupid like get married” drumbeat. It acknowledges the trade-off (if not outright injustice) of the fake arrangement we today call “marriage” while putting the emphasis on its true purpose — the creation and formation of K-selected white children, without which there can be no civilization.
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Be pro-brood rather than anti-marriage which is another word for anti-family which is another word for anti-white. If you are going to get hitched, do it in such a way that reforms the institution by example, i.e., revives the rights of the paterfamilias. A quantity of quality, r-selected numbers with K-selected investment, leaves no room for wandering female libido, bored young housewife syndrome, and postnuptial hypergamy. She can’t be whoring if she is knocked up during her prime, and maintaining a true familias requires a dominant pater.
[CH: Herr King, what are your thoughts on the Swedes, who have for all practical purposes supplanted marriage and kids with cohabitation and kids? Sincere inquiry.]
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C H, in that regard I’d say the Swedes are basically white n!ggers. That’s not civilized behavior.
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[CH: Herr King, what are your thoughts on the Swedes, who have for all practical purposes supplanted marriage and kids with cohabitation and kids? Sincere inquiry.]
You mean the Swedes who are in a demographic death spiral, who literally want men to sit down when they urinate, and who are currently being raped to death for being so self-castrated that their women were forced to import masculinity from the turd world?
You can “supplant[] marriage” only by first by denaturing the sexes. Sweden’s utopian meddling is possible because their inverted nation is in the death throes of end-state, small-sample, homogeneous liberalism. Further, cohabitation is marriage by another name; only they’re honest enough to rename the institution that they’ve redefined, unlike us.
Finally, at the heart of love is the need for possession, whose intensity can only be matched by the most extreme of oaths, like, “become one flesh” and “till death do us part.” This is the “unitive” purpose of matrimony that is scoffed at by incontinent sluts who can’t fathom the possible benefits (or joy!) of eternal fidelity with one person because they’ve invested in the omnivorous bisexual lie of “try anything once” or “you can’t know if it’s good if you’ve never experienced it” — even as their experimentation has, from a young age, foreclosed the possibility of ever knowing what life-long companionship and unity might be like.
The family is the atom of civilization, a miniature polity stewarded by king and queen. Within the reign of the paterfamilias, the west achieved as perfect a balance of individual and group identity as possible on earth, avoiding the extremes of radical solipsism, inbred tribalism, anomic nihilism, and totalitarian monism, which rush in to fill basic human needs wherever the boundaries of family are compromised.
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[CH: Herr King, what are your thoughts on the Swedes, who have for all practical purposes supplanted mar-riage and kids with cohabitation and kids? Sincere inquiry.]
You mean the Swedes who are in a demographic death spiral, who literally want men to sit down when they urinate, and who are currently being raped to death for being so self-castrated that their women were forced to import masculinity from the turd world?
You can “supplant[] mar-riage” only by first by denaturing the sexes. Sweden’s utopian meddling is possible because their inverted nation is in the death throes of end-state, small-sample, homogeneous liberalism. Further, cohabitation is mar-riage by another name; only they’re honest enough to rename the institution that they’ve redefined, unlike us.
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Finally, at the heart of love is the need for possession, whose intensity can only be matched by the most extreme of commensurate oaths, like, “become one flesh” and “till death do us part.” This is the “unitive” purpose of mat-rim-ony that is scoffed at by incontinent sluts who can’t fathom the possible benefits (or joy!) of eternal fidelity with one person because they’ve invested in the omnivorous bisexual lie of “try anything once” or “you can’t know if it’s good if you’ve never experienced it” — even as their experimentation has, from a young age, foreclosed the possibility of ever knowing what life-long companionship and unity might be like.
The fam-ily is the atom of civilization, a miniature polity stewarded by king and queen. Within the reign of the paterfamilias, the west achieved as perfect a balance of individual and group identity as possible on earth, avoiding the extremes of radical solipsism, inbred tribalism, anomic nihilism, and totalitarian monism, which rush in to fill basic human needs wherever the boundaries of fam-ily are compromised.
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@CO: Pro comment.
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somewhat related, from the “all women are whores” category:
Model, 18, is auctioning off her virginity to buy her parents a house… and claims bidding has started at £890k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5345920/model-18-is-auctioning-off-her-virginity-to-buy-her-parents-a-house-and-claims-bidding-has-started-at-890k/
Personally, if I had a spare million dollars or so, burning a hole in my pocket, I think I could find something better to spend it on than defiling that aspiring slut. She looks kinda anorexic, to me.
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Virgin? She already has slut-eyes.
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She was a virgin when phone calls were still a dime.
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*rimshot*
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Top bidder will most likely be some greasy jew or arab or oriental with way too much money.
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@vfm Good point. She’ll be sorry she didn’t include some raycisss restrictions on this deal.
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Look at her comments and then at what she plans to do.
A PERFECT example of watch what women do, not what they say.
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Apparently, it’s a developing trend:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3212590/aleexandra-kefren-model-sold-virginity-hong-kong-businessman-cinderella-escorts/
http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4853254/british-woman-26-hopes-to-raise-millions-selling-her-virginity-online-and-claims-her-parents-support-it/
http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4923012/giselle-model-virginity-auction-businessman-hollywood-cinderella-escorts/
http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3213028/cinderella-escorts-agency-selling-virginity-jan-zakobielski/
If this becomes commonplace, then obviously the equilibrium price for “virginity” (99 44/100 % Pure!!!) will decline somewhat, but who knows where the supply and demand curves will eventually intersect? There’s probably a significant proportion of 18-year-olds to whom even $100,000 would look like a good deal.
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The virginity market seems to be heating up rapidly!
https://www.cinderella-escorts.com/en/escorts-virgins
A whole lot of “sugar babies” must be kicking themselves right now, or wondering if they can somehow get out of the “second-hand” market, and back into the “new” market.
Discuss.
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wondering if they can somehow get out of the “second-hand” market, and back into the “new” market
plastic surgery to the rescue, for a mere $2,500!!!
what other investment provides an immediate 1000x return?
Women Have Surgery to ‘Restore’ Virginity
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/WomensHealth/story?id=123701
Muslim women reclaiming virginity via surgery
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/muslim-women-reclaiming-virginity-via-surgery/
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back into the “new” market
There’s already an app for that.
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She’s a virgin working her way through school… isn’t that the line every young lady in the strip club uses?
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A story as old as the hills.
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A tale as old as time: Beauty and the Beast and the Young Stud.
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WTF–why do replies keep showing up after the wrong comment?
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Don’t forget menopause. It really messes with women’s hormones. Does things like thin out vaginal walls causing sex to be painful and deadening desire.
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Speaking of a lack of desire or a mismatch in desires, Reddit has an excellent sub on the subject that is always a good read:
Reddit – Dead Bedrooms
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This starts in peri-menopause, so around 35.
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Sounds like Nature’s way of telling over-the-hill broads not to encourage men wasting their seed on ’em.
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That’s right Greg, and it’s also nature’s way of slowly reducing a woman’s sex drive over time, so she is focused on raising her children and caring for her home, rather than pursuing sex.
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yep, this is a good indicator of her fitness as a potential mother for sure.
if she needs lube for intercourse or starts feeling pain on the regular. there’s a very good chance her other baby making parts have gone to hell too.
women who are still fully fertile and healthy don’t have such problems.
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The only reason I think of using lube on a young lass is if she’s a virgin and nervous about getting her first cock.
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Or up the ass…
If her sphincter needs no lube, she’s a slur.
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Slut, even
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Menopause is a major; often ignored problem.
Women having children later in life (past the age of 30) is also problematic.
Nature/evolution designed women to have children from the age of around 16 to 26 when their bodies are at their most fertile, supple and resilient.
They are FAR more likely to bounce back to their former selves and condition.
Nowadays, even with improved nutrition and modern medicine a woman in her mid 30’s carrying a baby for 9 months is a bit like a 300+ pound man using an old, used kids trampoline for an afternoon of entertainment…. chances are that by the time he is done, the end result is not going to be pretty for the man or for the trampoline.
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Yes, the proper mix and volume of hormones are just not there for most gals past a certain age. Mentally they lose interest and physically it becomes painful. Here is something that I read about the other day that may help:
The O Shot
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Dr. Runels is actually a friend of mine.
He’s quite a character.
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It’s usually problematic if the woman has her first child after that age. My great grandma had 9 children. Her first, my grandmother, she had at age 20. Her youngest, she had at age 42. And she had 7 in between. So my grandmother is 22 years older than her youngest brother. So it’s not a mid 30’s woman getting pregnant that’s the issue, but an issue of whether it’s her first time being pregnant.
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There are also other factors. Among white women, for example, Eastern European women have much more difficulty having children in their 30s than Western European women. OTOH, Irish women appear to have less trouble. Even a hundred years ago, they were noted for marrying very late.
East Asian women also appear to be more able to give birth later.
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There are also other factors. Among white women, for example, Eastern European women have much more difficulty having children in their 30s than Western European women. OTOH, Irish women appear to have less trouble. Even a hundred years ago, they were noted for m4rrying very late.
East Asian women also appear to be more able to give birth later.
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[…] The Number One Reason For Sexless Marriages […]
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I’ve observed from my 25th high school reunion that the only men still married were the ones who got the hottest ground floor girls (who were still hot at 42) and the ones who married 25 yo girls when they were in their mid 30s. Everyone who married a marginal girl or fishwife was divorced. There is so much at stake when picking a wife. It’s the single biggest deal you’ll make. If you make a good deal, the returns are modest. Make just an average deal, and your loses will be insurmountable.
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And here, again, we have the advice that leaves men fucked. Young, family oriented girls are going to marry slightly older men, say, 25 to their 20, in order to start a family together. The idea is that they will seek to marry a man on his way up, not a man who has been banging sluts for the past 20 years, or one who has racked up a divorce and child support. She will support him in his growing career, and he will support her motherhood. If you marry a young woman, while young, you will be about 40 by the time the kids are in high school and leaving the house, and you will have spent the past 15-20 years with a youthful woman who is likely still youthful looking due to having had her children young, which lends itself to a quicker bounce-back.
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Or how about 25 to their 24, or 32 to their 29. Pushing the Overton Window a little young, aren’t you?
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Getting married isn’t stupid.
Being stupid and getting married is the problem.
Marriage is the foundation of this amazing society we live in.
CH, I hope you do get married some day. The good you have done for single guys pales in comparison to the good you can do for the future of this country. There are a lot of guys out there that need the path to a bedrock marriage illuminated for them.
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>> is the result of a man marrying a woman his own age, and after time losing all sexual interest in her as she quickly morphs into an old woman before his eyes
Yes ^. She loses luster over time… and… the Coolidge Effect. Men like “strange.”
>> And the cure is trading up, fapping off, or dropping out.
Very-LTRs are not supposed to be about sex. They are about kids, community, and “civilization.” So, option 4 is… SECRET SIDE ACTION. The “French Marriage.” The mistress. Why “trade up” when you can “rent” some novelty AND hold your family together at the same time?
Timeless.
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At my peak of hedonistic activities, I would occasionally come across a 30-something just out of a sexless marriage. Boy, were they eager to follow instructions (Wear this, do that…)and to make up for lost time.
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I know an outlier – a 5’6″ fat, bald insecure guy (49) w bad teeth who prefers fucking a sick, old lady with cancer (9 yrs his senior) over a little hottie who couldn’t get enough of him. Do some men dislike having an attractive gf bc they’re scared she has options and will leave? Do men like attention from needy, desperate women? Why would a man choose fucking a cancer-filled, rotting carcass over a qt? Is he pathologically insecure or a borderline necrophiliac who likes porking a dying old hag?
Asking for a friend but all serious questions!
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Assuming it’s not #shitthatneverhappened, he’s either a mental case (actually that’s not in doubt), or trying to get in the will. The second one wouldn’t preclude him from having “a little hottie” on the side though.
Seems like it’s your duty to console the little hottie and get some bunz in dat ovenz.
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When it comes to luv, there’s no accounting for taste.
Mary Anne with the shaky hands,
What she does to a man with those shaaaaaaky hands.
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Pleasure is a one-way street, sometimes. A woman will put up with sex in certain moods, without really being into it. Because her body can manufacture *just enough* lube for the act, without getting her into it emotionally, she can do this, unlike a limp-organned man.
What’s the point? If you spend your life driving around your city’s one-way streets, it seems “wrong” to go two-way. Habit is a driver of so many behaviors, including relationships. After a while, no habit (“no sex”) seems better than a bad habit at all (“one-way streets”).
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It’s disgusting, but you answered your own question when you mentioned he was “insecure”. He wanted something easy, and an older woman dying of cancer is just about as easy as it can get. (Except for the times she complains about being too sick to do it.)
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The number one reason for a sexless marriage is a marriage license. Women become complacent because the chase is over and because the law favors them in every way. One wrong move and the wife is gone with over half her mans possessions now and in the future. There’s no reason in this country to marry a woman.
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I got a faceful of this reality the other day when I looked up my college girlfriend who’s now 34. She was hot in those days and she’s lost it, the glow, the youthfulness. She’s not fat or anything and still looks decent, but man there really is something missing that honestly shocked me to see it. All her girlfriends too, many of whom were smoke shows in their prime are just, bleh.
I couldn’t put my finger on what exactly it is, I mean their bone structure hasn’t changed, they aren’t covered in wrinkles or fat, but whats missing is hard to define but impossible to miss.
All these men marrying their special lady at around 30 something are gonna wake up to another woman before the dust settles. Our culture is insane.
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Traditionally, by midlife a man might see a hottie on the street or wherever, then take his arousal home to his (almost as middle-aged, “bleh”- looking) wife. Unless he could afford a mistress (and any resulting kids)–which most men never could afford.
(We ARE going “neotrad” around here now, aren’t we?)
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I hit the big 4-0 this year and feel I’m just hitting my stride.
Ain’t nothin’ gonna break-a my stride
Nobody gonna slow me down, oh no
I got to keep on movin’
Ain’t nothin’ gonna break-a my stride
I’m running and I won’t touch ground
Oh no, I got to keep on movin’
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When I hit 40 my goal was to bench 300lbs. I did it, in my youth I lifted for looks. 6 months before 40 I started lifting for strength. Constantly adding more weight. I’m larger and considerably stronger than I ever was in my teens and 20s. It just feels good to be physically powerful.
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nice.
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This, this, and THIS.
Lift, guys… it’s the only fountain of youth I’ve discovered.
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Works well into your 60s, too.
Word
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My goal at 50 was to bench 300. I did it. I am now stronger than I was at my previous peak strength of late 20s/early 30s.
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I can’t do 300+ bench anymore because of the rotator cuffs acting up, but I can still do 250 in a sets of 6.
I turned 60 recently, and weigh the same as when I married some 30 years ago.
Young men still call me “sir”, and often ask if I’m a retired cop or military.
Lift, ya bastids…lift!
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I can’t bench 300 anymore due to the rotator cuffs acting up… but I’ll do 250 in sets of 6, and weigh the same now as when I got m-a-r-r-i-e-d (FU, ghey mod) some 30 years ago.
I turned 60 recently, and young men still address me as “sir” and folks often ask if I’m retired military or police.
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So what I’m sayin’ is: Lift, ya bastids! 😉
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Yeah, I gotta get my left shoulder checked out, as I know I’m not getting the proper push from my bench.
But reading all these great comments, I will now set a goal for trying to hit 300. I might not get to it by my birthday, but it’s something I’d like to get done before 2018’s over.
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FWIW, I never had shoulder problems at all… then at the age of 55, it wasn’t the strength movement that was playing havoc with the rotators, it was when I was reaching back slightly to put the bar back on the pegs.
Weirdest thing, really… like a sudden electrical shock. And then it wouldn’t feel right for quite a while, even though I could still do strength movements. But one little odd twist or turn and suddenly the ZAP again.
That’s when I went more with weight-stack and lever machines to keep the strength up, and then slowly back to the free weights, although I do prefer the machines now, if only for the safety factor. While they don’t hit the stabilizers like free weights, they keep you feeling strong and looking good. 😉
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Lifting is good for your health, makes you more active, amps up your looks and SMV, improves your outlook on life, makes you more confident (with everyone), and amps up your T (thus improving your sex life). So many benefits, that it is literally a no-brainer. But, it is work, so many avoid it in our modern ‘society’.
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Mendo- Just be easy on the cuffs and don’t overdo the bench. I was going extremely wide grip with heavy weight 250+ at around 42. Injured the cuff, took me almost a solid year & a half before I could go heavy again. I didn’t want surgery, so it took much longer to heal on its own (age, severity of injury), but now back to going heavy again, no problems. And I don’t go extra wide grip anymore.
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Enjoying the last few months of my thirties! Going to be fit and forty! 🙂
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Meanwhile Sweden is really enjoying their transition to a more diverse cultural mix.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sweden-violence/swedish-pm-does-not-rule-out-use-of-army-to-end-gang-violence-idUSKBN1F629L
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They’d do well not to talk about it and just do it.
A fait accompli is much easier pull off than getting permission.
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In know a few guys in the Swedish military (conscription will start again there shortly), and although they are “aware” of the “immigrant problem”, they’re FAR more concerned with the boogeyman de-jour, Muh Russia.
Direct quote from one: “The military itself is very unenthusiastic, preferring that the police get greater resources instead.”
And another: “The military will try to do everything it can to avoid this (we’re extremely busy trying to reconstitute a defense against Russia) and this will likely stop this in its tracks, but that the door has now been opened to paramilitarizing the police further, and bolstering it in general.”
(These are quotes in regards to the above news link)
It’s like this: “yes the immigrants are a problem, but MUH RUSSIA……WE NEEDS MORE MISSILES!!!! MUH GOTLAND!!
Even their senior guys have this insane idea that Putin’s going to parachute into Gotland so he can control the Baltic.
It’s not 1985. This kind of BS is one thing I don’t miss from the 80’s.
One thing I did find out that might be an answer is to why Swedish men don’t do something themselves, “militia’s” were outlawed in Sweden in 1934 as the then government didn’t want the population to go the evil natzee route and form something like the S.A. What’s that political saying, “never let a crisis go to waste”. Even if it’s in another country. Most politicians truly are evil scum.
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“why Swedish men don’t do something themselves.”
Because the Swedish men of the last few decades are turbocucks, every last one of them. They’d wear dresses if they could (well some of them do).
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“…the Swedish men of the last few decades are turbocucks, every last one of them.”
A major distinguishing feature of Sweden is that it managed to avoid involvement in the huge wars of the 20th century – unlike its Scandinavian neighbors. Sweden was once an imperial power, but it hasn’t fought anybody in two hundred years (since 1814).
I’ve been wondering about the eternal popularity of war. It’s like the First Rule of the Red Pill: Pay no attention to what they say, watch what they do. Everywhere in the modern world, if you ask people they’ll tell you they hate war; yet the minute the Ruling Elite floats the slightest excuse for going to war, all the men in the country will be lining up to volunteer – and the women will be handing out feathers to those few men who don’t. Why?
Certainly the elites have reason to love war, which vastly increases their power and wealth (unless, of course, their side loses). But what about the poor men who fight, losing limbs, sanity and lives – and the women who lose lovers, husbands and sons? Something must decisively trump all the rational and even emotional reservations. What might that might be?
As we in Red Pill studies have been learning, the one thing about human life that trumps everything is the Reproductive Imperative, and its manifestation in the Sexual Market Place. The SMP requires war, as a method of testing and culling males; and as is well known, women go for soldiers – especially the winners, whoever they may be. They can’t help it.
Unfortunately, modern wars have gone far beyond the interminable intertribal conflicts typical of e.g. precolonial America (and also common amongst chimpanzees), where a boy wasn’t a man until he’d taken his first scalp. The devastation visited upon Hiroshima and Dresden does not really serve anything other than the profits of the military-industrial complex (of the winners). This has become a real problem, with no solution in sight.
Anyway, after two centuries of peace, it seems the men of Sweden have regressed to neuterdom. Thus, as an organism Sweden’s immune system has collapsed. It remains to be seen if it can be revived before the body expires.
(As for the rest of Europe, I think the men are simply exhausted after centuries of the Elite’s endless wars. “Rich man’s war, poor man’s fight” – and the poor men are worn out. Again, immune system collapse.)
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WTF kind of excuse is “Oh, but Russia!” and ignore the shitskins fucking up your own cities NOW? (((shakin’ mah haid)))
Didn’t they ever hear of a “tune-up game”?
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Well, you take one look at this
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6098160
and realize the Russia thing is just that – an excuse.
The m!grants would probably bully them into handing over the equipment, then trade it for shiny beads on the local sh!tsk!n market.
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If your sample is representative, the Swedish managerial elite has “wisely” chosen to psychologically filter military recruits so that men angry about immigration aren’t armed. Probably the same filter is applied to the police. Of course, what the Swedish managerial elite don’t get is that these soldiers have deactivated the critical portion of their limbic system involving territory and are, instead, focused on virtue signalling. Their concern about “Muh Russia” is, therefore, primarily virtue signalling within the military piety du jure which, of course, is whatever the Swedish managerial elite say it is. This isn’t genuine military morale.
Such “men” are not going to be representative of Swedish men in general — the men that were part of the militias prior to 1934 and are now disarmed and pissed as Hell.
If Putin were to simply give the impression that Sweden would have a moderate immigration policy under Russian hegemony, Russia could invade and the Swedish “military” would virtue signal as they tucked tail and ran — quite possibly into the maw of the de-militiaed men who saw Putin as Sweden’s savior.
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“Such “men” are not going to be representative of Swedish men in general — the men that were part of the militias prior to 1934 and are now disarmed and pissed as Hell.”
I’d argue there’s not many of those men still around over there.
Now, have you been to Sweden? Because I’ve been to Stockholm a bunch of times.
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— I’d argue there’s not many of those men still around over there.
Most people are followers.
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Don’t forget Australia, we wouldn’t want to leave them out.
” Deportations Proposed as African Street Gangs Invade Homes, Terrorise Residents in Melbourne ”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/01/08/australia-african-street-gangs-invade-homes-terrorise-residents-melbourne/
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This is why we lose… everything is talked about and “proposed”, rather than just going out and doing the necessary, and letting the (((press))) and useful stooges cry crocodile tears afterwards.
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Proposing things is worthless. Just do it. Proposing and debating things just gives the (((Left))) time to mobilize and oppose it. The problem with liberal democracy, and nations that have become Economies and no longer are Nations.
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Dang Greg, just read your comment. We said the same thing. A little different, but otherwise spot on. Great minds…
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Aussie Deportation opposed by African community- they effectively describe their former country/countries as a sh!thole
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Chapter 15, Section 8 of Sweden’s criminal code prohibits the expression of “disrespect” towards favoured minority groups. The law carries a penalty of up to four years of imprisonment. It requires no evidence of incitement to violence and lacks any objective standard for identifying “disrespect.”
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/swedens-hate-speech-law-condemned-at-un-human-rights-commission
If you’re an individual man facing such an openly hostile government willing to throw you in prison that is probably run by its Muslim inmates the way black and hispanic gangs run the prisons in the US, you’d probably think wearing a dress might be a good idea too. Don’t imagine that some guy being figuratively, if not literally, gang-raped by an out-for-your-balls pozzed regime will leave you alone just because you STFU. And don’t imagine that you, in that situation, would skin them all alive given the chance.
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The system is rigged. Marriage and laws have all been used against you. Only a fool plays in a rigged system boys. Whatever you do, and how much you have, the system will steal it from you. Its not defeatism, its the reality. The system must be burned down. The system cannot be reformed. Voting has no effect. The Permanent Bureaucracy you call the Deep State is dug in like an Alabama Tick. You cannot fix it, cause its supposed to screw you over. The winners are “chosen” shall we say. Everybody else becomes a slave or thrall, one way or another. Never play a rigged game. You cannot win.
Henry Ford had his company stolen from him. He had to close down the Dearborn Independent Newspaper. It was for the “good of the cause” when FDR started WWII due to “Pearl Harbor”. All the companies were “managed” for the War Effort, you see. H. Ross Perot built a megacorp from the ground up. The Wall Street weasels promised him the GM CEO position if he sold his company to GM. Perot took the bait and got on the board as the biggest stockholder. Then he saw the other board members freeze him out cause he didn’t have 51%. He lost his company. They “bought” him out. He left with monopoly money and (((they))) stole his hard work.
You do not negotiate with thieves and parasites. Do not expect thieves and murderers to EVER DEAL HONESTLY WITH YOU.
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I see this all the time, especially amongst the couples who got married as high school or college sweethearts. It starts to happen right around age 35-40 and it’s all downhill from there. The wife literally starts to look like the mother from the photos I see, especially if the man is fit and taking care of himself. Photos that show up on my Facebook feed are a great source of this. I often wonder “this guy can easily be banging someone in her mid-20s but instead is stuck with this harpie.”
There’s gotta be at least a 15 year age difference so that as the man is getting older, his wife still remains somewhat fuckable.
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I’m not sure if male SMV “climbs” through your 40s… I don’t exactly see a bunch of girls fresh out of college dating 45 year old dudes.
I’d say SMV goes up through your 20s and early 30s then it levels off til like 50. Best idea for a dude is to get hitched (if he wants to) in mid 30s to a early 20s girl then you’re at least 45 before she starts beginning to hit the wall.
[CH: male SMV, unlike female SMV, encompasses a lot more than youthful looks.]
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SMV is a crib sheet, not a set of immutable laws. if your primary concern is with doing things on your own terms, rather than what the market SAYS you should be doing, then you’ll find a way to get what you want, regardless of the so-called obstacles.
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There are. Some are referred to as “sugar babies.”
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You’re right that mid-30s men should be matched with early-20s women, but the reason that normally doesn’t happen is because most men are blue-pilled betas and are already in decline and beaten down in their 30s. It’s usually late-bloomers who are still sarging into their 40s with younger women, not the early flameouts who m4rried their high school sweethearts.
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With same age couples (high school/college sweethearts who got married, for instance), the wife usually starts to look like the mother around age 40 or so. It’s all downhill from there.
There should be a minimum 15 year age gap so as the man is getting older, the wife remains at least somewhat fuckable.
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Totally agree. Within legal restrictions, of course, a man should try to get the youngest woman possible. 10 years minimum age gap. That age gap should jump to 15 years for any man over 45. Think of the long game, gentlemen, not just a 5-year plan, when deciding to settle down with just one woman. And for God’s sake, for the millionth time, make sure you get a good look at her mother! That’s pretty much her, in looks and weight, in 25 years. If that is too much to handle, don’t put a ring on it.
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With same age couples, the wife usually starts to look like the mother around age 40. It’s all downhill from there.
There should be a 15 year gap, so as the husband is getting older, the wife remains somewhat bangable.
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Granted, younger is invariably better…
… but some of them older wifeys got a lotta good miles left on ’em! 😉
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Important distinction: Men’s SMV doesn’t climb through 30s and 40s, it only climbs relative to same-aged women.
In terms of ability to nab prime aged women, SMV pretty clearly drops throughout 30s and 40s on average.
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Trump is one of many examples that shows u don’t know what ur talking about. Good luck Schleprock.
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Have you heard of confounding variables?
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Trump has fame, power, 10 billion dollars, and world-class game. Yes, he has compensated for his age, just like it hasn’t mattered that he’s chubby and has a combover. That doesn’t mean his age isn’t a negative.
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A man’s age does not impact his SMV the way it does a woman. If he’s a slob, doesn’t have anything to show for his time on earth, then, yes, it won’t be the same for the well-todo gent.
For a woman, a man with status and power is sexy at any age.
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In terms of landing prime age (17-23yo) women, aging is a liability for a man. It can be compensated for with status and game. But that’s just hand-waving, because shortness, ugliness, fatness, poorness, can also be compensated for, but they still matter.
So, in an SMV vacuum, is aging good or bad? Bad. No question. Its unpreventable and nobody’s fault but we shouldn’t hamster ourselves.
Now, in context of CH’s post, I agree that *relative to girls near his own age*, a man’s SMV rises with age. A man’s SMV wanes slower than a woman, but it doesn’t increase with age for most men. That’s an important distinction.
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Correctly said williamk, I believe it was Krauser PUA who was talking about the realities of ageing and game, he mentioned that while game is hugely beneficial to him and his ability to get with women ageing has impacted as well, he admitted that his results would be far better if he still had his youthful looks of his early 20s as opposed to being bald and looking very much like a 40 year old. What is a fact though is that most men do not have great game at a young age like 21, that is why they often do better with women at 35 than when they were younger, a man at 35 with game is at a much better place than a woman at 35 who is average looking.
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Disagree. I think men can be a of near prime SMV into their 40s if they look after themselves and work out.
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In terms of landing prime age (17-23yo) women, aging is a liability for a man.
Age is a cultural “liability” in a cucked-out culture, so tell us something we don’t know.
What natural leaders (or to repeat myself, white men, qua white and qua men) understand — and apparently eludes you — is that a man shapes the culture by fearless example rather than assuming market strictures are permanent and immutable. More slavish and bourgeois types take their cue from the zeitgeist and submit to whatever shame campaign happens to be à la mode. (This isn’t to say shame doesn’t have its place; but when taboos are shaped by resentful harpies, it becomes a man’s positive duty to negate by example.)
Women are demonstrably attracted to older men no matter what the cues, or can you think of many couples in your own immediate orbit where the man is not older? There’s no reason other than your ignorance to rehearse why this is the case. The current shame campaign is easily punctured, especially with fatherless ingenues who just so happen to correlate with the age range you cite.
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Trump’s non-age attributes are not confounding variables. They are covariates.
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Yes, on average. But, on average, most men are blue-pilled betas.
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This is also true. And they, like women, need to be led.
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The leading cause of erectile dysfunction is banging an old lady.
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what about this
what if you were forced to f*uck one these shapeless disgusting forms
any sensible man would rather choose to die
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or a fatty.
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Young BB
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The man is her second husband Jacques Charrier (and the father of her only child)
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In her memoirs Initiales BB, she describes her horror at finding herself pregnant in 1959, aged 25: “I looked at my flat, slender belly in the mirror like a dear friend upon whom I was about to close a coffin lid.”
She revealed, in an attempt to abort the child, repeatedly punching herself in the stomach and begging her doctor for morphine.
The revelations lead to a lawsuit by her ex-husband and son, Nicolas, who was raised by Charrier after their three-year marriage ended.
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This picture and her life confirm everything a red pill man knows , no a single exception
A brief summary
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life/brigitte-bardots-extraordinary-life-husbands-lovers-and-suicide-attempts-20141014-11679r.html
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Is that CH’s dad?
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Alain Delon.
What is a pick-up-artist site that can no longer recognize its superior forebears? Dégénérescence!
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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Here’s a good example. Ex-Formula 1 driver Ricardo Patrese, terrorizing his wife in a race car, with a nice smirk on his face the whole time. He’s 53 in this video, she looks to be early 30s. Watching that video, very easy to see the man has got game, has landed a hot young wife (relatively speaking), no doubt after banging who knows what during his driving days. Those F1 drivers are known to pull some of the best tail available. Pretty easy to guess what they did after they got home.
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The solution is simple. Be a professional car racer + follow CH’s advice.
You’ll be banging all the time.
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A photo of the nice couple from the video.
Rule of thumb, make sure your wife looks more like your daughter instead of your mother.
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“Rule of thumb, make sure your wife looks more like your daughter instead of your mother.”
That way, your daughter(s) have a chance of landing a good husband that can provide her with resources and she can provide him with healthy babies.
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I don’t think its the women. Its usually the cratering smv of the man. Most american men over 35 are obese. Plus pozzed and brainwashed by jewish media. Many are beta schlubs who their wives wont put out for once theyve secured the house and car.
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Many are beta schlubs who their wives wont put out for once theyve secured the house and car.
Sure that. Prior to house and car though, comes the “I’m a married woman” social status upgrade.
(Where they are still programmed into that.)
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This. Women are a known quantity. Complaining about them is really just a commentary on the weakness of their men.
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Yes.
Women are in fact open to older men… just not THOSE older men.
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Dems shut down government over amnesty. Tell your normie friends – they’re so bent on their treason that they prioritize it over a functioning government.
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what if the gov shut down for a year and nobody noticed
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I’d call that a good start.
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It would be nice if we were not taxed for the time of the shutdown.
But that will not happen. They always get their shekels.
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In the current sexual market, 30+ year old men marrying young hotties can work. In a functioning patriarchy, men need to marry fairly young. The old guy hamsters i see arpund here salivate at the prospect of 40yo men getting 18yo hotties, but the reality is that cultures where the age of men’s marriages skew older are cultures where young men go without sex. This is extremely unhealthy for society by removing the “skin in the game” for some of it’s most valuable members. Afghanistan and black South Africa are perfect examples.
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In the current sexual market, 30+ year old men marrying young hotties can work.
In the current degenerate culture, no marriage can work, not on a mass scale. The institution requires support from without.
In a functioning patriarchy, men are not fully citizens until they are around 30 — the youngest age of Plato’s fully-formed and free guardian class. The first gray hairs are an emblem of initiation into the Cursus Honorum. The less-disciplined muh dikk underclass might riot over not having foreskin in the game, but civilized white men can defer matrimony to mid-to-late-20s, as they distinctively have in contrast with the child marriages of mud peoples. (And this isn’t even addressing the other pressure release, the time-honored, if unofficial, tradition of men sowing their wild oats with sluts on the margins.)
In any event, the idea that sex indisputably rules the world is a (((Freudian))) lie that even the best men of our generation still fall for. Remember that sex is not the slicked-up pornified pre-broken-kitten version served to you on every screen non-stop. It is the tatted-up fat rolls, the saggy skin and yeasty fish smells of a billion squirming obese bodies rubbing against each other in the dark. That’s the most frequently occurring experience. Like the open sewers and street-scat of shithole countries, sex on a cultural scale is best when kept out of the public byways. The traditional celibacy of the holy, the fig-leafs and diminutive phalluses of the best art produced by mankind, are an indication of how difficult it is to transfigure such a primitive common impulse into something truly sublime.
Civilized nations channel and transmute their animal energies, like, say, an urge to shit, in ways that literal turd-world savages could never contemplate, much less accomplish.
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In any event, the idea that sex indisputably rules the world is a (((Freudian))) lie that even the best men of our generation still fall for. Remember that sex is not the slicked-up pornified pre-broken-kitten version served to you on every screen non-stop. It is the tatted-up fat rolls, the saggy skin and yeasty fish smells of a billion squirming obese bodies rubbing against each other in the dark. That’s the most frequently occurring experience.
Like the open sewers and street-scat of shithole countries, sex on a cultural scale is best when kept out of the public byways. The traditional celibacy of the holy, the fig-leafs and diminutive phalluses of the best art produced by mankind, are an indication of how difficult it is to transfigure such a primitive common impulse into something truly sublime.
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Civilized nations channel and transmute their animal energies, like, say, an urge to shit, in ways that literal turd-world savages could never contemplate, much less accomplish.
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Forgive the mass posting if these all get released from the jews at the mod department. I am brute-forcing through the gefilters by trial and error …
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In the current sexual market, 30+ year old men mar-rying young hotties can work.
In the current degenerate culture, no mar-riage can work, not on a mass scale. The institution requires support from without.
In a functioning patriarchy, men are not fully citizens until they are around 30 — the youngest age of Plato’s fully-formed and free guardian class. The first gray hairs are an emblem of initiation into the Cursus Honorum. The less-disciplined muh dikk underclass might riot over not having foreskin in the game, but civilized white men can defer ma-trim-ony to mid-to-late-20s, as they distinctively have in contrast with the child mar-riages of mud peoples. (And this isn’t even addressing the other pressure release, the time-honored, if unofficial, tradition of men sowing their wild oats with sluts on the margins.)
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Can confirm that the words getting stuck in the minder’s maw are:
✡ “mar-rying”
✡ “mar-riage”
✡ “mat-ri-mony”
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‘In the current degenerate culture, no mar-riage can work, not on a mass scale. The institution requires support from without.’
That nicely puts something I’ve been thinking for a while. Also, I had a chuckle at “gefilters”.
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Random question but does anyone remember Sofia from Toronto? She had a blog called Sofiastry and used to post here back in the day. Anyone know where she blogs or posts now?
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Sorry, she was before my time. I only ever heard about her.
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LOL, you are still alive? Still married to Mark Minter or did that implode already?
Or different Kate?
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Sad puppet. Why don’t you check in on your puppetmaster. He sounds suicidal.
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Throw into the mix a woman’s good years of doing the rounds unnecessarily which damages them long-term and also a yearning for bad boys on good days, and we have guaranteed disaster.
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“This post explains the true cause of “mid-life crisis”. The crisis is the rapidly diverging SMV values of the husband and wife. And the cure is trading up, fapping off, or dropping out.”
There is one more option. Keep the companionate wife if she has proved valuable, and possess the money, game and looks to draw sugar babies. They represent a broad cross section of today’s young women.
Trading up requires too much risk management. Dropping out is to exist, not live.
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No game or looks needed to get sugar babies–only $$$.
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” Which is why I advise men, if you’re gonna do something stupid like get married, ”
This kind of attitude is not helpful in our quest to increase Caucasian numbers, and ensure a much needed supply of troops for our racially collective future conflicts.
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It seems like a Catch-22: we need to push back on the demographic front to fix things, yet doing as CO recommends in this climate is su1cide.
That, however, assumes things will be (or can be) fixed peacefully/democratically. I doubt it. I think we’ll end up having to clean house first, then rebuild from the population that’s left over (eventually the shitlibs and their pets will force this, because they simply cannot do otherwise). Fortunately, as Victor Davis Hanson has pointed out, there’s good reason for optimism when Westerners (real ones, not cucks) face off against non-Westerners, especially when the former’s backs are to the wall.
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My wife and I are the same age. Met in high school, class of 82.
We’re both fat and dumpy and ugly and it’s all downhill for us from here.
But to me she is as beautiful as she was in 1982. You’d be surprised how the time flies.
Wish I had some advice for you young ones but I’ve seen and watched as your women slowly went insane. But all I have is pity. You’ll never know what a proper marriage is unless you are very, very lucky.
Perhaps there is something I can pass along boys – and you may accept or reject it as you will: at this age there are worse things than ‘fat and dumpy’. Loneliness comes to mind.
Look after yourselves boys – and best of luck to you all.
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How many kids?
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That’s great that you’ve given up on yourself and are comfortable with your wife’s FUPA, but there are legions of us that don’t want to take the easy (aka lazy) road to travel.
This is one of those situations where it would have been better if you’d said nothing at all and been.
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PS This post explains the true cause of “mid-life crisis”. The crisis is the rapidly diverging SMV values of the husband and wife.
Why the great majority of divorces are initiated by women then?
[CH: because men are harem builders by nature. this means a man won’t throw away a wife for a mistress. he’ll prefer the additive approach.]
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That’s like asking why a thief would “initiate” a break-in rather than the banker.
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Well, DUH!
Women are taught to be dissatisfied with everything, can get just about any job they wish these days and are no longer “dependent” upon men, and society at large is easy living for ’em, backed up by a thousand facebook likes and the gummint, if there’s any issue about them support checks.
Empty nest syndrome and menopause, coupled with no-man-is-an-alpha-once-you’ve-smelled-his-shite-for-twenty-years and a society in which survival isn’t even an issue, and voila!
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Divorces are initiated by women because they get cash and prizes for doing so. Also, many of them greatly overestimate their SMV. They think the dating market for a post-wall divorcee with two kids will be the same as when they were in their early 20s. Such disappointment when they discover it isn’t! But then they attribute this to the lack of “good men” – “men my age are so shallow, only interested in hookups and younger women…”
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Like I mentioned, facebook and other online nemeses give women an exaggerated sense of their own worth, so they’re only too eager to cut ties and go out to Eat, Pray, Lurv.
And the fact that there are thirsty, thirsty betas out there that will indeed still have them means the situation isn’t going to improve at all until men learn to value their own honor and that of society in general rather than wanting some cooze, any cooze instead of standing strong with standards.
Men have to learn to worship God rather than some wet hole.
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You’re talking about escorts, not college cuties. Many of the latter are quite undecided about whether they want to be intimate with an older man, and it takes more than money to convince them. Those I’ve know that drop off a particular SD website tell me that the men (except me) are too pervy.
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Makes complete sense. Broken-down blue-pilled betas hitting on college-age girls come off as pervy, because their SMV has cratered. But the college-age girls aren’t in fact closed off to older men. Just THOSE older men.
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A beta’s a beta. Look at zuckerberg.
To be successful, even as a SD, you’d have to have some game I’d imagine.
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My ex did get together (as in, hasn’t married him yet) with some hipster looking douche five years younger than her, who btw, was married and had two kids with his now ex wife. And now at her mid 30s, she had two kids by him.
All of this is funny, because she was going out with men 10 years older than her when she was 18, and she cheated on one of them. And now she’s fat and having children out of wedlock. And rumor has it her little Mexican Russell Brand is boinking women on the side. Glad I dodged that bullet.
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Sounds like “her little Mexican Russell Brand” would make Charles Darwin proud.
Ch!ldless PUAs, not so much.
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And if she was still with you–or had married one of those 10-years-older men–she’d probably be cheating with that same douche now no matter what. Character counts .
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Another factor you’ll have to deal with if you decide to get married, even if she is far younger than you, is that women generally don’t do serious working out and love eating garbage, especially sugary garbage. I’d estimate that for every true fitness girl who takes care of herself enough to somewhat ward off the approach of the wall, there are at least five guys who lift seriously and watch what they eat.
My wife is 14 years my junior. When I met her she was in her late 20s and kind of skinny fat but still cute, and she turned in to quite the fitness girl during the trying-to-convince-me-to-marry-her stage, eventually developing quite the nice little bikini body. Years later she’s over 30 and stopped working out altogether when she got pregnant the first time. I managed to get her somewhat back on the horse, so to speak, after the kid came but with markedly less enthusiasm and consistency and correspondingly diminished results. Those reduced results combined with the damage of having her first baby after 30 resulted in a definite drop in attraction on my side.
The wife frequently complains that we don’t have enough sex. Not surprising I guess: I lift seriously, watch what I eat, and look pretty good even though I’m approaching 50. She still passes the boner test for now, but I can feel my attraction level plummeting and wonder how long that will last. Milk and wine. The Coolidge Effect. I love my kids and refuse to stray for their sake and because it’s a question of honor to me, but I feel like I’m looking at a priest-like existence for the decades that I have left on this earth if I can’t figure out how to psy op her into hitting the weights again and eating much better, and I probably need to do it soon before she goes full hausfrau on me.
Anyway, I’m going to go hit the weights now.
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1) Dread Game.
2) Keep kn0cking her up and getting kids out of her.
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1) Agreed.
2) I like the idea, but my wife is approaching 35, which I think of as an event horizon of sorts for child bearing, at least for taking it for granted that the kid’s going to be healthy. Don’t get me wrong though, if I had a 19 year old wife and millions of dollars I’d want at least ten kids.
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More kids won’t do anything for her figure.
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On marrying women at what age and of what age: there are tradeoffs. If wed the day after high school graduation, you’ll be around and vigorous for your grandchildren and possibly for your great-grandkids. But the above described SMV dynamic will occur. Decide what you want out of life early.
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people are healthier and generally live longer now, also. that’s something to consider.
when traditional marriage began (I imagine at least a few thousand years ago) life expectancy from birth in many places would have been 40-50 years. if you were lucky/tough enough to survive the shield wall and disease, then you only had to tough out thirty years, tops, of a so-so marriage.
but today folks regularly live to 80…that’s a lotta years of sexless nagging. it’s not often mentioned as a factor for delayed marriage, but it must have an effect. when you see people living so long, you take your time and choose carefully, for better or for worse.
conversely, when you see people dying all around you, the urge to get on with raising a family is strong. that’s one of the reasons the Baby Boom happened. all those GIs coming home from the horrors of war were acutely aware of their morality, and came home and made lots of babies. subsequent generations were too comfortable to feel such urgency.
it seems there’s a fine line between too much prosperity and too little, too much longevity and too little…
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acutely aware of their *mortality…
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“it seems there’s a fine line between too much prosperity and too little, too much longevity and too little…”
It sure does.
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“life expectancy from birth in many places would have been 40-50 years. if you were lucky/tough enough to survive the shield wall and disease, then you only had to tough out thirty years, tops, of a so-so marriage”
This isn’t how the numbers work. Like expectancy was 40 because huge numbers of infants died, and disease could take people at any time. If you made it to adulthood, you had a decent chance to make the threescore-and-ten described in the Bible and beyond. It doesn’t mean you were withered and gray at 40 or 50.
On average a so-so-marriage might have lasted 30 years, but that’s an average of lots of varying lengths.
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An underappreciated element of very old fathers is the generation-spanning character of a single nuclear fam-ily, which could span 150+ years from father’s birth to son’s death, and all the accumulated wisdom within such a legacy.
Such wisdom allows the cumulative experience to skip faddish modes and degenerate developments (like, say, the baby boom and sexual revolution) and pass on a greater formation to the future. Especially considering, “Nothing that is worth doing can be achieved in a lifetime…”
Whereas young dads are kids raising kids.
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About that, it’s theoretically possible to marry young with a woman your own age and have her retain her beauty into middle age and even beyond. I’ve seen it happen, it’s just a less-than-1%-of-the-time thing, and it comes through the woman being a fitness nut who eats well, avoids tobacco and alcohol, and so on. Not rocket science, there just aren’t many women out there who are disciplined and care enough to pull it off.
It’s not likely in any case but slightly more likely if she starts having babies young. Women’s bodies recover better from a baby if they start having them young.
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“Decide what you want out of life early.”
That’s not possible for a lot of men.
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The number one reason for the lack of desire in marriage is the marriage license. Women want to be chased. Marriage eliminates that. The paper proves they won. And second, the legal system is designed to screw over any man with any alpha aggression whatsoever. Anything the woman can object to no matter how much she loves it becomes evidence against the alpha in a trial. The woman will get half your stuff your kids and your income in perpetuity. There’s no reason to legally marry today other than to provide your presumed children with a non bastard existence. Eliminate the rewards for women of quickie divorces and society evolves
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Dude.
Have you been to da Hood or el Barrio recently?
Nobody needs to be m@rried to have ch!ldren.
Sheesh.
Birds, meet bees.
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In other words, all the advantages that tempted a man to trade a portion of his hard-won freedom (The word “husband” comes from “house-bound”) for the bonds of mar-riage have been denounced as patriarchal and eliminated.
Women want to be chased only because it is an indication of her value as a prize. They don’t want to be hunted incessantly by creeps. They want to be prized, which any husband who isn’t a mouth-breathing idjit can accomplish with a touch of game.
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king, when did it become commonly accepted for women to have children out of wedlock? I can recall a time when society frowned upon such behavior
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1- keep the wife in a good peer group. Her mind will be poisoned if surrounded by Real Housewife skanks.
2- Keep yourself in shape physically, financially, and attitudinally (game) and she’ll continue to chase you
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Can confirm #2. I lift and do HIIT seriously, watch what I eat, and don’t touch alcohol or tobacco. Although I’m approaching 50 I have a cut chest, lean and muscular arms and legs, and flat, defined abs. I like to think I’m around 85% of Brad Pitt in Fight Club. While my colleagues at work whine about how their wives won’t touch them, I can’t keep mine off me. On the other hand, getting her to take care of herself like I do is the problem in our household.
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Recipe for great sex while married in mid-late 40s
(1) marry down in SMV
(2) maintain patriarchy in the house.
(3) marry at least 2 years younger than you
(4) Have 2+ kids
(5) Wife stays home to take care of kids
(6) Both of you stay in good shape.
(7) in some positions dim the lights for sex.
Not all of these required, but a majority helps a lot.
Sex is better now than it ever was.
The exchange for monogamy was well worth it.
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I tell any young guy who will listen to not even think about getting married until he’s 40, and then only if she’s at least 10 years younger.
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I’m 49. My wife is 45. With respect to how women age, I’ve witnessed the transformation of my beloved with my own eyes in real time. When she was 30, she looked 20. When she was 40, she looked 28. Now she went looks like a 50 year old woman who vaguely resembles my wife but with 30 more pounds and no hour glass shape. I’m going to stay with her and continue to give her everything that I have because we have kids together, and also because I want to. But I also have to do what I have to do, and as far as I’m concerned what she doesn’t know in this area isn’t going to hurt her. Female looks aren’t forever. It’s why God invented mistresses and concubinage.
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Does she try to take care of herself? If so, are they 1) cursory attempts, like occasionally working out out and eating a vegetable once in a while, or 2) serious: intense weight training and yoga, meticulous diet, basically training like a Hollywood actor/actress for an action film? I’ve seen women stay genuinely sexy into their fifties, but only that rare 1% of 1% who trains like an action film actor. I’m hoping I can move my wife from category 1 to category 2, because I can’t shake that childhood belief that adultery is mortal sin that will get me sent to hell.
My wife is 14 years younger than me, so I have more time to work with but still, I can already see signs of the approaching wall.
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OT:
Bill Gates’ daughter parading around her boyfriend, some Arab/Islamic vermin as best as I can tell:
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He’s probably rich.
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“Egyptian horse rider and world cup qualifier, Nayel Nassar (26)”
And the world cup mentioned is horse showjumping.
Bill must be so proud. And I’m not even being ironic. As we know, the Gates’s love dem africans. At least it’s not a sub saharan one.
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Gentlemen in your 30s and 40s, don’t read any kind of blue-pill relationship-related forums — at least, not without washing your brain out by coming here afterward — because the masses are literally one step from advocating open cuckoldry now.
As I approached 40 and realized that having children of my own was more important to me than anything else, I started frequenting those places. It was horrifying. Advice to men invariably consisted of (a) marrying a single mother and taking her kids in as your own, (b) marrying a same-age woman, not trying for pregnancy, and adopting a child (the single-word “Adoption.” in response to a long paragraph of angst was common), and (c) accepting that you are too old for marriage and that you should find hobbies instead.
And you’d be *shamed* if you said anything about wanting to have your own biological children (“genes don’t matter!”) or about feeling a closer bond with children related to you than not. The problem of a remarrying wife’s divided loyalty between her child and her new husband is taboo.
“Man up and marry those sluts” isn’t just for divorced men anymore; it’s for never-married men who, in the eyes of said sluts, weren’t good enough to sire children but whose wallets and homes can certainly be consumed for the supposed benefit of those (biologically-unrelated) children.
I made the mistake of saying that I only wanted to get married if I can have my own child, and have stuck with my same-age partner with that presupposition. I’m not interested in a sexless and childless relationship with a fellow post-40 woman, even though she’s a wonderful person and loves me, at least platonically. It wasn’t yet a taboo for aging men to not give up hope on having their own children even a decade or so ago. Now I keep these thoughts to myself — and I’m not giving up on desiring what every man desires deep down.
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Four words; “your sperm; donor eggs”. Any woman who’s ok with that can give YOU genetic children. Not every woman cares that the kids she raises be genetically “hers”. Women who wait until after 38 or so probably have this option (and others) in mind as a backup, at least tacitly.
Is she open to that? ASK. (And if I were a woman who was open to that, I would VOLUNTEER the info, in a playful way, to increase my “value” in the dating scene.)
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(Ladies: feel free to put all possible “selling points” into your profile!)
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