A reader passed along a Game tactic he uses on Tinder which in my opinion would work equally well offline. (FYI Trump is causing Tinder to lose users.) The reader calls it Plausible Deniability Game, but I think a better term would be Sexual Redirection Game.
There’s a trick I’ve developed when talking to girls on tinder that is way more effective than I even thought it would be. After the initial couple of messages, I’ll ask something like “what do you do for fun?”.
Women love to talk about how interesting they think they are, so this gives her a chance to run her mouth and get engaged in the conversation. So once she’s done saying shit like “oh you know, walking my fur babies, volunteering, drinking organic responsibly sourced whiskey, bla bla”, 80% of the time they’ll ask “What do YOU like to do for fun?”
I’m not a huge fan of open-ended questions during a pickup, because as often as not they tongue-tie the less excitable women who can’t think of any response. It’s like asking “What’s your favorite movie?”; there are too many options to think of one on the spot, and this sort of question can cause awkward stutters in the conversational flow during a date or first meeting. But the open-ended question “What do you do for fun?” may skirt the issue. The Modren Woman loves to talk about fun, having fun, doing fun, being fun, being around fun…it will be easy for her to think of a hundred ways she participates in fun fun fun. And like the reader says, most of the time she’ll return the question, which opens new avenues of seduction potential.
This is where you get her mind on sex without activating the anti-slut defense shield. I usually respond with something like
“Canoeing, hiking, shooting my gun, having sex, going to the gym, splitting atoms, reading the news, slaying dragons, you know, just the usual stuff”.
Now, there’s a lot of moving parts here but every girl I’ve used it on has loved it.
1. I’ve blended “having sex” in the middle of strenuous, physically invigorating activities so the gears in her head are turning about what it must be like.
2. I’ve put it in the middle of the list to remove any hint or desperation. This comes with an air of aloofness and hints at preselexxxion.
3. I’ve also attached hilarious and absurd activities like “splitting atoms” and “slaying dragons” to make it an obviously playful statement, and it inspires playfulness in return.
EVERY SINGLE TIME, I get something back like “wow I see a lot of my favorite activities in there 😏”
PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. She wants to hint at her desire to get cervix hammered without flat out saying so. The conversations always COME ALIVE after this exchange.
I like the cut of this reader’s psy ops. Misdirection and subliminal associations? We don’t see that often enough. The most effective facet of the ruse is contained in #2, where the reader defangs the sexual redirection by burying it in a list of less erotic activities. #3 is important too; most of my successes were when I was in a playful, devil-may-care mood.
It’s a tenet of proactive seduction (game) that a man should introduce sexual themes and sexual tension sooner rather than later, which means in practice the first date. A man who makes it through the first date without some kind of sexualized banter is not having a second date. (If he is, it won’t be any second date worth having.)
The sooner sexual language is introduced, the more your rhetoric should provide plausibly deniable cover for the change in tone from friendly to sexual. I WANT YOUR HOT BOD works when she’s one foot over the bedroom threshold; it doesn’t work so well as a reply when she asks your name (well, it can, but you’d better have rock solid frame in the delivery and follow-up). So if you want to steer that convo to salacious innuendo before she’s downed her drink, you need playfulness, cockiness, and a bit of the ol’ rhetorical legerdemain to soften her up to The Hardening.
Come on, what’s with all the PUA stuff? This is supposed to be a religious blog.
[CH: splooging my religion.]
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Again with the PUA stuff CH!! This is supposed to be a White Supremacist site, please be loyal to your roots.
LoLz
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Muh Jeebus!
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We need to end the pick up autistry is dying out in favor of bringing back a more traditional society.
Generation Zyklon is now. Perhaps liberal demoncrazy shouldn’t be embraced, and this blog should stop pushing for hedonistic degeneracy. I wouldn’t want my daughters getting tindered.
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Lighten up, Francis. This blog is a goldmine.
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So is your nose.
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yeah this blog has helped me pick up 900 chicks in the last 3 years
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I picked up six millions in only 3 years.
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600 gorillion here. Seriously though, changed my life.
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I met my third and fourth wives on this blog.
It’s the Cyberian garden where true love actually blooms!
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Blogs come and go.
Societies rise and they fall.
The generations shall pass.
…but Skittles Man is forever.
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/be-a-skittles-man/
Be a Skittles Man, bookooball, be a Skittles Man.
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I’ll see your skittles man, and raise you a patriarch of a jew aware, breastfeeding, homeschooling, stay-at-home mom.
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“(FYI Trump is causing Tinder to lose users.)”
Hmm… let’s see here:
WSJ colleague Akane Otani also shared a Market Talk report from Wells, which says that Blatt further stated that there was “a lot of weirdness” after the election.
Somehow I suspect that male Hillary voters, who are more likely than Trump voters to join the thirsty hordes searching for random hookups, were feeling a bit out of sorts.
“I was scared of matching with a Trump voter. Deleted the app, ” wrote one [female] user.
Rationalization hamster combined with typical female misdirection. (Rule No. 1 of Game: Never believe a woman when it comes to matters of sex and attraction.)
“When you’re deeply depressed and feel hopeless about the future your love life tends to suffer.”
“This happened with me as well, as well as a rad gal I connected with. Just moped. Things were strange then.”
“It was so depressing even strange was unappealing.”
These remarks were from three male shitlibs. Yup… the phaggits were indeed literally unable to get it up.
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that’s depressing. i thought all the comments were from girls. actual men talking like that. sad.
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You and me both. Bunch of manginas they are.
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C’mon this is good stuff, for what game is.
We all know real men don’t even talk to women to get laid. All our ancestors would think that we are homosexuals, game is βeta-based, game is based on respect for women and they giving consent.
When real men want get laid they go to to talk to the girl’s father and master. Or raid something or some funny intermediate.
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Don’t see much “make the ho say no” in there.
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[…] Sexual Redirection Game […]
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this is the sort of thing you see doofball meatheads doing all the time, adding in, alluding to, and making “oh you’re making the sex talk with me, how dare you” jokes. See any Channing Tatum interview with a girl.
Sad. they’ll never get laid because women appreciate a chaste and indirect courtship.
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Chateau Heartiste: the only place on the tinterwebz to see the word ‘tenet’ used and spelled correctly.
It’s the little things in life…
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I agree with all this. Sexual non-sequitors have worked for me since high school. I think I got the idea from the Beatles “Day Tripper,” because I thought they purposely said “pr*ck teaser.” So I used to throw stuff like that into the middle of discussions about world history.
But that’s not the point. This can go a step further. Learn to pepper your sentences with sexual buzzwords: Splay, spread, rub, grind, come, touch, hard, erected, spurt, wet, etc. Use these words in place of whatever word you’ll normally use.
When you do this, one of two things happens: 1). The girl picks up the innuendo and repeats it back to you: “Hm, that building was ERECTED you say…hahahah!” This means she’s thinking along those lines. 2). This creates an undercurrent of sexual tension and sometimes the girl won’t pick up on exactly why, but she knows she’s being…
….
….
…sucked in.
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It’s all about that subtext.
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We get details now about an Aussie mudshark in the new BHO bio:
http://nypost.com/2017/05/04/new-book-details-barack-obamas-wild-days-in-the-1980s/
Obama ex gushed about ‘all this f—ing’ “B. That’s for you. F’s for all the f—ing that we do,” gushed Genevieve Cook, an Australian-born woman who hopped in the sack with the then-22-year-old Obama after their very first date in Manhattan.
“We went and talked in his bedroom. And then I spent the night. It all felt very inevitable,” Cook wrote in the diary,
Their first night spent together came after they had dinner in his apartment on West 114th Street, according to Cook.
“The thing that connected us is that we both came from nowhere — we really didn’t belong,” she recalled. “Sexually he really wasn’t very imaginative but he was comfortable. He was no kind of shrinking ‘can’t handle it. This is invasive’ or ‘I’m timid’ in any way; he was quite earthy.”
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can’t handle it, this is invasive? under what circumstances would a man talk like that?
i’m guessing she was wearing the old strap on and expecting him to be scared. little did she know he was already well experienced in such matters…
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lol
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Exactly. More likely Genevieve was really Gene.
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Is obama gay? He may be bisexual.
Joan rivers said he was gay and michelle was a man before she died in a plastic surgery accident.
I dont think its true. It might be half true.
Michelle is a very masculine woman. Prob has more t than most guys.
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I see. So Obama is actually a very masculine man with normal urges and relationships.
Thanks New York Times! I’m cutting out and keeping this article for when I need to put one of those white supremacists back in their place!.
All I need now is a report from RT on Putin attending an Orthodox Easter Mass!
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“that we both came from nowhere”
Rootless cosmopolitans. The scourge of a nations.
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Hi CH, check this study
The More Chores A Husband Does, The More Likely The Marriage Will End In Divorce
http://www.medicaldaily.com/more-chores-husband-does-more-likely-marriage-will-end-divorce-242815
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Hey, Science is catching up with shitlords. It’s about time. All you passer by and lurker types take a note, and remember any time someone tells you more chores = more pussy they are lying. Or really stupid. Either way, someone tells you that, ignore them and everything else they say.
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Never been on Tinder but the screenshots of profiles I’ve seen look like they have a lot of beta bait, ie heavy sex/sloot talk.
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I tried it briefly, but never got anywhere with it. Also, don’t like the fact you need FB to use it.
Was thinking about mocking up a simple FB page and giving it another go.
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It’s a chick app
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My extremely feminine wife gets the tingles whenever I remind her that my favorite pastime is “Blowing shit up”. I tell her that the only trade I could ever enjoy is Demolition, and she begs to give me a BJ. Not exaggerating in the least.
Unfortunately for her, I’m a lawyer. But that seems to suffice most of the time.
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Hey shlomo, your nose is growing.
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Part one works, because she’s proving her social value to him. It’s women mistaking male attraction for female attraction- she believes she has to prove herself attractive to be considered attractive by him.
Part two really works, because he’s showing interest, while still making her feel comfortable. Sex n comfort. He conveys that he’s open to going at whatever pace she wants, which takes away the rapiness fear response and gives some sense of control. Fear of rape is an instinct, yet many women still have one night stands. Physical and social fear in women are so closely intertwined, there’s no telling where one ends and the other begins. In the animal world, both could kill her.
Then, you have the “redirection”. Because there is no risk, she takes the role of the pursuer and is redirected into the male role. That’s the goal of seduction.
The whole game revolves around the modern reality of gender dissociation. There’s a very strong pull for women toward men who are in touch with their feminine side. On the same token, women themselves aren’t very in touch with their feminine side. This is because femininity is responsive by nature. It responds to the presence of masculinity. Too much polarization at once is frightening and threatens the modern woman’s identity of someone who is in control at all times.
Modern women aren’t concerned with literal slut-shaming, but the idea of slut-shaming. They’re afraid of being gossiped about by having made a poor, irrational decision. Their nightmare is to look desperate and needy. Sex is considered okay, as long as it means nothing and you aren’t a needy friend with a broken heart. The helpless female is the new slut. That’s why so many women aren’t attracted to their husbands – he was the “wise” choice. The marriage is “equal”. The female is “strong” and “independent”.
Women aren’t afraid of sex these days, but the overwhelming nature of feminine emotion. So, playing the “Dandy” is a gentle-seeming way of easing a woman into her true nature. Yet, it’s arguably the most dangerous game to run: before she knows it, she’s hooked.
*Note – typing the word “sex” to someone you just met will scare-off wife material. It indicates that you are a sex-kind-of-guy. Marrying types want a marriage-kind-of-guy. Square one, in this instance, is going to be even more androgynous. Act like you’re “not necessarily a sex kind of guy”. Part one will be the same, part two will hint at sex without saying “sex”. Maybe pick a favorite movie with a lot of dirty scenes. European movies tend to be good, because they’re both romantic and bawdy.
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This new girlfriend likes me to call her “darling.” Never expected that one.
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if you call all your plates “Darling”, it’s easier to keep the names straight.
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Women have names?
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if you call all your plates “Darling”, it’s easier to keep the names straight.
Indeed… pick a pet name and use it for all the women in your life… much stress avoided. 😉
Something a bit unusual is better than the more generic ‘baby’, or ‘honey’, or ‘darling’… it makes ’em feel like the special snowflakes they just know they are.
…
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“Sugar tits”
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At one point, I had Tatiana 1, 2, and 3 in my phone.
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Or this oldie but goodie:
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“Hey, sexbot”
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That’s getting some use soon.
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Just texted my Scientist babe that one. See what she does.
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OT: As usual, the Don gives us a running tutorial on alpha body language.
Note how Aussie PM Turnbull’s arm is outstretched. Trump forces him to lean towards Trump.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/2b1e8df2974f52dcfb26d544b50e3b6b
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@Moses…Yeah!
It’s also TRUE that someone shouted from the gallery the instant after Turnbull (a QUEER inveterate pro-Moslem, GloboPedoFace!) was sworn in:
—
“TURNBULL!
You’re a CUNT!”
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Humorously recounted on Breitbart last year!
Despite all of its socialist muck, ya gotta LOVE Oz!
GOOD times!
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This is the top shelf shit right here. Gonna try it out.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-04/white-south-africans-are-preparing-slaughter-and-removal-all-whites-within-five-year
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Zionist shill
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This is golden! Look at her body language and the direction she faced while swatting her beta, listen to her meaningless moronic yapping.. Clearly tingled..
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she’s not even making an effort to explain herself or make a good argument but she’s still totally sucked and in and doesn’t want to leave. she loves the attention from a strong man like that.
and it’s funny how she keeps telling her beta to give her five feet. i bet she does that every time he tries to get some honey from her too.
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“organic responsibly sourced whiskey”
Sadly there is such a thing…
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I think they’re referring to john mosby’s corn likker. It’s what we’ll all be drinkin on the DOTR.
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Personally, I’d steer clear of the “having sex” gambit. Circumstances vary, but generally I think it’s too obvious. I take a more subtle, slow-burn approach. For instance (because “for example” is apparently gauche now), I was in the office of one the girlz from payroll (paging Elmer T. Jonez). A beautiful brunette, with a perfect petite body, sexily yet tastefully dressed, with a demure and reserved demeanour (she’s a forreigner). It was a nice little cozy, closed-door orifice with a Persian rug on the floor. I plopped myself down on a chair beside her and noticed that she had a scented candle burning. I remarked to her on the candle, saying, “how romantic.” She instantly blushed. I could see a thousand connotations of romantic interludes ping off her brain at that instant. The thought of romance has immense appeal to girlz, ranging even from good girlz to hardened bar slutz, to even prostitutes. So, I use “romance” instead of “having sex.” However, when telling a story as part of the seduction process, I will drop in “sexy” as an adjective, e.g., “I rented a sexy apartment in Cannes overlooking the hills and the sea. After a day exploring the old city and swimming, I’d sit on the balcony with a bottle of wine as the sun went down.” Girlz will invariably agree, “wow, that does sound sexy.” (Note difference between men and womyn; girlz’ minds and poosies are fuelled by such stories; men will say you’re full of shit, even if the story is true, which it is). “Sexy” has plausible deniability. I weave more romance, including the word itself into conversations, with both parties more or less knowing that it’s a synonym for sex. As I said at the beginning, context matters. If it’s 9.30pm on a rainy Vancouver night and you’re trying to get a girl over to your place via Tinder, talking about the news ain’t going to do it. You’ve gotta amp it up. But if you look more like Edward VIII than Channing Tatum, you may need to go the more subtle. If it works for this hustler, then more power to him.
Rock and roll is a vicious game.
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clear of the “having sex” gambit
if you don’t want to use those words overtly, you can instead simply say ‘girls’.
what do you like to do for fun?
riding motorcycles, rock climbing, girls, playing guitar, hunting, etc etc
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My tinder game: I have a fake account with 10 years of my age. I have a set of pictures where my face isn’t visible and they are straight from the cover of 50 shades of gray (I assume, I haven’t seen the book. Gray scale, suit, professional took the pictures). Text reads; “I am dangerous and older than the account claims. I need your full submission, and if I get it, you will get to feel how being dominated by a actual man feels like. This will be our secret. You go straight at the top of the line if you bring a friend”.
Set age limits to 18-22 and ok everything (well almost, leave the fatties). Now you would be surprised how much “normal” girls respond to this. There are no 9s or 10s, but there are a lot of 7-8s to choose from.
You will love the fact that you have girls who claim “need somebody to dance with me slowly and be a perfect gentlemen” and then when you ask what they want they go “I need somebody to dominate me and punish me as I have dirty things going through my head”.
Perfectly shows the power of the frame.
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http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2017/05/02/commentary/world-commentary/sheryl-sandberg-worlds-annoying-person/#.WQxNBeWGPD4
What a surprise.
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CH, when cuckryan and jewcucktrump 69 each other, which we know occurs every night, do you think they take turns being on top or is cuckryan always on top?
[CH: you’ve ODed on black pills.]
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Lol.
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Patience,
nincompoop
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You: “Canoeing, hiking, shooting my gun, having sex, going to the gym, splitting atoms, reading the news, slaying dragons, you know, just the usual stuff”.
She: “wow I see a lot of my favorite activities in there 😏”
You: “okay, let’s split some atoms together”
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Standard stuff.
“What do you do for fun?”
Her: “Umh…”
or
“Nothing.”
or
“I dunno”
or
“What do you do for fun?”
There’s also the popular look-away-and-shake-head gambit.
“The boyfriend doesn’t take you dancing ?” (too many words, I know)
Her: “No.”
or
“He doesn’t know how”
or
“He’s in Afghanistan.”
or
“He’s home with the k1ds”
This is not ‘game’, it’s called ‘talking’
[CH: funny then how so many men screw up this thing you call ‘talking’.]
and it gets more and more monosyllabic from the female side the further away you are from the wrong side of 30.
[it’s a good bet if a 30+ yo man is getting monosyllabic replies from women, he got monosyllabic replies from women when he was under 30.]
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This is not ‘game’, it’s called ‘talking’ and it gets more and more monosyllabic from the female side the further away you are from the wrong side of 30.
dont you mean the wrong side of 6’5″?
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You ought to seriously consider relocating to a more favourable game environment.
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Seriously what the fuck is worng with you dude
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What’s ‘wrong’ with me is that I don’t want to swap the lies our f@mil1es, the media and society as a whole tell us for fish stories we tell each other.
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If you don’t believe in game, you don’t belong here buba.What do you say to a person who keeps ending up places he or she does not fit in?
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Actually, the under 30 replies were pretty good.
You lose that bet.
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Driver’s Licence are sexist according to da guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/womens-blog/2017/may/02/driving-miss-crazy-britains-sexist-driving-licences
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What’s your idea of fun?
Skinny skiing… going to bullfights on acid…
I have an idea… why don’t we just pretend we’re real people?
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Jest!
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No flies on you. 😉
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