Qualification (having standards and applying them to women) and Disqualification (telling a woman in so many words that she doesn’t meet your standards, to raise your SMV relative to hers) are vital Game concepts that no seducer should leave the fapping hovel without.
A reader suggests a third entry in the Qualification suite of pickup dialectics: The Counter-Qualification.
Dear CH,
Think I came up with a new way to handle a woman trying to qualify you – I call it “counter-qualification” (CQ). I was out on a date tonight and this girl was asking me a lot of questions – not because she was curious – but because I felt she was trying to qualify me a lot.
So at a few points I said to her “Wait, this isn’t a job interview – is it? You’re asking me a lot of questions…” if her questions were sounding like too much like an interrogation Eg. if she said, “so do you go to shops all the time and try to get dates? When was the last time you used Tinder/online dating?” etc. In which case, I used counter-qualification.
I did this on the iDate I went on last night and the same thing again – the girl got a bit defensive and qualified herself. Again, when she was trying to interrogate me about my dating habits, I would tease and say “see – you’re doing it again. back in “interview mode”. Do you do this to all the guys you date?”
I’m gonna play with it some more. I’m also thinking I could start using CQ questions like “why are you asking me that question?” or “why is it so important for you to know that?” – of course, has to be done with the right tone, expression, etc. to avoid sounding butthurt and defensive.
Be interested if anyone at CH has experience with this. Maybe next time a woman gives you a shit test and it’s a question, you could:
a) Ignore
b) A&A
or c) CQRegards,
Phoenix
The CQ is a push-pull subroutine that’s more akin to teasing than to qualifying, but the gist of this reader’s definition is clear enough. In fact, the “wow I didn’t know I was going on a job interview” CQ line that the reader uses as his example is a well-known PUA shit test-busting tactic for instantly deflating a hot babe’s pretensions and flipping the chaser-chasee script. If a girl peppers you with interrogative questions and you cheekily reply, “is this a job interview?”, she will back off her aggressive posturing and regard you with more carnal curiosity. After all, she’s used to beta schlubs dutifully answering her questions as fast as she can ask them.
So that’s the CQ. The A&A response would be something along the lines of “My job? I’m a male stripper. Work is slow right now, but I fill in my free time doing bored housewife porn”. A&A achieves a similar result as CQ, slowing a girl’s momentum and asserting your manly prerogative.
Caution is warranted when using these tactics. If the girl is just needling you to see if you’ll break beta, then CQ or A&A can be repeated with a positive response rate. She’ll laugh and stop asking her banal questions. On the other hand, if she genuinely wants to learn more about you, then don’t overuse CQ or A&A; you’ll sound spergy and suspicious, like you’re trying to hide something unflattering about yourself. If she’s a real deal doll, then one CQ followed by one A&A is all that’s necessary, allowing you to gracefully segue into surrendering a sincere answer to her questions without losing alpha bed-cred.
Her line of questioning indicated an attempt to determine your propensity for commitment. These millennial girls may be getting a bit smarter. First
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“These millennial girls may be getting a bit smarter.” i have yet to find any evidence they are getting anything but fatter.
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> ‘Again, when she was trying to interrogate me about my dating habits, I would tease and say “see – you’re doing it again. back in “interview mode”.’ ——— This is a little bit like “Game Game”, where you explain to her how you’re going to Game her [“Well, first I’m gonna neg you like this”] and then you Game her [“You know, your left boob is bigger than your right boob. Do you have to buy two different bra sizes?”]
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Only here you would be Gaming Her Game. Then you could tease her about the mistakes she was making in her Game, and tell her how to correct them. [“No, don’t ask me if I’ve ever cheated on a girlfriend, ask me if I’ve ever cheated on a girlfriend with another girl who wasn’t quite as pretty.”]
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Once I went out to a bar with a friend, and he opened a couple girls using a really off the wall line. The girl made fun of the line, and he responded with something like “yeah well what’s a better line?”. She responded with something boring (most girls are completely clueless as to what they themselves respond to), and he started berating her for her terrible game. I thought that was an amusing example of the same concept.
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What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has game but does not have works? Can game save him? If a brother is naked and destitute of house, of kin, and friend, and muscle, and honors, and capacity, and legacy, and decoration, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the spirit, what does it profit? Thus also game by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
But someone will say, “You have game, and I have works.” Show me your game without your works, and I will show you my game by my works. You believe that there is one Law. You do well. Even the shitlibs believe—and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that game without works is dead?
Was not Trump, our God emperor justified by works when he offered Kelly on his altar of fire? Do you see that game was working together with his works, and by works game was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Trump believed game, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of Game. You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by game only.
Likewise, was not Ryan the cuck also justified by works when he recognized Trump as his new lord and master?
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so game without works is dead also.
[CH: this reads like gbfm in a pensive religious mood.]
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Awesome.
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Blasphemously hilarious
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Hey, at least some of these yeggs are up on their Scripture. 😉
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Welcome back Greg
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“… “why are you asking me that question?” or “why is it so important for you to know that?”…”
Wouldn’t these sound better as statements – “it seems quite important for you to know that”? “why are you asking me that question?” sounds a bit defensive.
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OT: Can Trump come to South Africa too?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/2017/01/18/this-is-what-dean-hutton-creator-of-f-ckwhitepeople-has-to/
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“Eg. if she said, “so do you go to shops all the time and try to get dates? When was the last time you used Tinder/online dating?” etc. In which case,”
I don’t think I could refrain from the obvious conclusion, i.e. “You don’t get out much, do ya?”.
There’s an invisible (to women) line between a HB qualifying you, and her just being an irritating, timewasting twat. Looks nonwithstanding.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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Greg Elliot in perma mod again? I have noticed the comments section has improved. People speak more freely when they aren’t always afraid of censure.
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Ah, hell why not, I’ll do it:
Avaunt, you fairies !
Shaikin’ mah (((haid))).
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Still adhering to his self-imposed exile, I reckon.
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For the record, I hadn’t noticed any dearth of free speech either before or after any of my hiatuses…
… unless of course you mean Strappy Rick, who has come out with both barrels spewing the usual yentaspeak on the previous thread. I’ll let wiser haids than mine determine with this is a boon to the chateau or no.
Further, a bit of restraint and introspection never hurt anyone…
… least of all you. kekekekek
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There’s a rhyme & reason to your comments that cannot be duplicated.
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Danger thinks I’m too… eh… judgmental.
Wha, all youse alpha yeggs ’round chere been like mice a-play since the cat’s been away? kekekekek
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This is what right looks like Boys. M*rry accordingly.
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unless there’s 5 tykes per, it is failing to bring home the bacon, big fat ZERO.
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You got her number?
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Nae Scots….nae USA! ARRHHHH!
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TRUMP’S mum (Mary Ann, God rest her!) was a McLeod of Lewes (from a village near Stornoway, Outer Hebrides), sae….our newly inaugurated president is HALF SCOTS / VIKING!
WINNING!
…
Hark, lads!
MARK ye that?
Aye!
‘Tis…THE TRUMPENING!!!
HUZZAAAAH!!!
Ar Righ Donnail Iain TRUMP mhac Leod bean Lewes!
Hold FAST, McLeod!
A’ uisebeach MacAllan…..*Slainte!*
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Hourglasses all 3, now that the youngest has grown a wee bit. They won’t last forever – the oldest is now 30. Time for bunz => oven. Aye-aye, Cappy.
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“That seems important to you” (smirk), I’ve used several times. Redirect her with this kind of question-but-not-a-question. Put her in the position of ‘splaining herself. Don’t let her get away with a demand for a series of answers; no more than one answer from you, then return that volley and make her talk about herself.
“Yeah, well what do -you- think about…” is a good way to stay on top of an insistent questioner. Recent example, a Russian-born nurse at a prestigious hospital and HB 7.5 that I later notched. I expected a shit-tester and I was ready. In our first conversation, I guided us away from all her qualifying questions back to her talking, for example, about what Putin is like and Trump v Hillary. “No one’s ever asked me about this before!” Another example, during a bounce: “Why are we walking?”…”It’s your town, isn’t it? Don’t tell me you’re lost! Show me around.”
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I always liked David D’s approach where he would pull a mini-resume out of his wallet since it was a job interview. At that point, to me at least, would be one foot out the door.. so you may as well have fun with it anyhow.
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“If this is a job interview, I’m not sure I want the job”… works. The CQ and a neg.
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This works great with job interviews too. Any time I said I didn’t want the job, they tried really hard to convert me. I would very politely say, if the job includes that, then I don’t want it.
I always turned them down no matter what. If they said I wouldn’t have to do something, I knew it was a lie to suck me in and later reneg.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/19/russian-soften-domestic-violence-law-decriminalise-womens-rights#a-4c9203e1-0448-4360-b8ba-d09ae2d315d7
Seems like alpha laws are coming to Russia..
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“I’ll tell you if you kiss me.”
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Women are annoying
And feminism is the belief that mental 14-year-olds should be free of all behavioral restraints.
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Shut the fuck up.
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Attacking me won’t convince Captain Obvious and crew that you’re not a Mossad agent.
Try something else, retard.
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JIDF agents staging a fake fight. LOL’ed.
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I know it doesn’t take much, but what did TJ do to show up on this paranoid schizo’s radar?
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“paranoid schizo”
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“what did TJ do to show up on this paranoid schizo’s radar?”
oddly off-color and try-hard posts, esp. the vids. not necessarily a smoking gun, but the prints match. could be (((genetic))). could be FF school indoctrination. hard to tell. the fishy smell is so similar.
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Wanna hear something really mind blowing? The Communists and the Nazis were both set up by the International Central Banking Cabal to fight, get them rich, spread atheism and communism, gain practice in subverting ever larger and more complex nations, gain control over weapons industry, and set up Jewry for future untouchability. Believe it or not, they also set up and orchestrated the Holocaust, which happened but not to the same extent as claimed or in the manner generally claimed. This is from Pawns in the Game. That is a great book although old, it is the foundation work for all of the Illuminati literature. I had always suspected this to be the case and this was confirmed. All MI5 and MI6 sources too.
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You lost all credibility here with pizzagate and this is just pure nonsense. You don’t know anything about Nazism.
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throw down the imperial yoke
they said
self-determination
they said
democracy
they said
Liberte Fraternite Egalite
they said
shill or stooge? does it matter?
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Don’t be so sure. Pizza gate is gaining quite a bit of traction as well. You so called Nazis labor under a number of painfully constructed myths supported by copious denial. I have probably spoken first hand with more Nazis and communists than you can name. I have a number of German relatives who fought in the war. I know a great deal about Naziism and am a published translator of two well known works. I have the complete unit histories and photo books of the following SS Divisions: 1st, 2nd, 3rd (which I translated) 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 12th. I have both of Felix Steiners works, Paul Haussers books, Patrick Agte’s books. You would probably wank over my book collection. I know French Maclean personally. I know it is likely Hitler was the bastard child of the Vienna Rothschilds and that my Boy Scout leader at Camp PMI told me his father had liberated a Rothschild and was given a set of family porcelain as thanks. He was given secial treatment and could come and go from the camp as he pleased- pure window dressing. My opa voted for Hitler and was one of the two percent who survived the infantry for six years. I grew up with this shit and have consumed it and studied it laboriously all my life. Kiss my ass.
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I know it is likely Hitler was the bastard child of the Vienna Rothschilds…
Did you mean “highly doubtful”? :duckface
Danger, you always seem to take that one step too far… which then casts doubt upon the rest of your otherwise credible spiel.
/Jes’ sayin’ rape
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@Waffles, if you’re reading this, try deficit sumo deadlifts with a light weight that won’t punish your CNS. Aim for metabolic fatigue.
I did shit like this when I was without a squat rack.
My ass and quads got huge from pulling.
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Thanks, will do. Never tried the Sumo version before.
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O/T, people keep predicting civil war but who will be fighting who? The federal government versus ranchers in Idaho or rednecks with too many guns from the deep south?
One side is extremely organized and numerous with many brainwashed sheep backing it while the other is just a bunch of small disorganized groups scattered across the country. Rust belt whites voted for Trump but will they join forces with the other groups? Whites from the North and South united?
I don’t know, maybe some military officers will revolt as well. For now I don’t see it happening.
Captain Obvious. Suck. It.
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fucking Christ, you’re weird, Cap’n. You think Mossad cares about some stupid game website in America?
Israelis are interested in Arabs. Arabs. Suicide bombers. Palestinians. They don’t give a fuck about this chateau.
The yids don’t waste money paying people to post shit on the internet. The (((tribe))) is known to be stingy. I ain’t talking to you anymore.
you’re bananas.
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At least the sheep shag Tom!
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Rifle behind every blade of grass plus 2A plus high percentage of veterans equals high liklihood of success.
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I’m cautiously optimistic.
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One interesting point about the “future/coming civil war” is that although it is a fairly common internet meme, it has got no traction at all in the approved narratives, for example tv-movies or mainstream publisher-supported fiction.
What is so funny about that?
Well, usually they use the tv-movies in particular to start preparing us for stuff that they plan to implement in the next few years or within the next decade or that they are currently implementing.
1. Muslim terrorism
2. Black presidents
3. Family breakdown and the war of the sexes
4. That cash is only used by money launderers and drug traffickers – e.g., Breaking Bad and many other examples
5. Militarization of the police (e.g SWAT-style tv shows)
6. Fags form families too and poo-pushing is not mentally ill
7. Move over white man and stop being a dinosaur (all the Dirty Harry movies)
8. The normalization of torture as a genuine tool of investigation
9. Robotization and automation (kids cartoons never feature drivers for vehicles any more)
10. Blacks and whites are friends – ever since Lethal Weapon – or rigt back to “Guess What Mofo Comin’ to Dinner”
There are plenty of others, but the main purpose of tv-movies is to lead us as a kind of judas-goat into big changes with a softening up period – “All in the Family”-style so that we react to changes as the wish us to react.
So if there is a (((plan))) to start a civil war in the US, well, where is the preparatory psy-ops?
Or – for once – is it just that no preparedness is, in (((their))) view, the best preparedness for )))us((((?
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Screwed up my handle again. VagDom
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Trump. Inauguration. Speech. Sworn-IN.
Can’t.Stop. Fapping.
INAUGURATION RAPE!
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The expression on the former first “lady’s” face was my favourite part.
BITTER TRANSGENDER RAPE.
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I was laughing my ass off during the event. The former google-in-chief and first tranny were both creating enough content for the next 500 years of memes.
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did you see TheCunt’s mini seizure?
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The poz is still strong. In 2009, my employer allowed the Obozo worshippers to watch the inaugural telecast. This year? Not even mentioned.
The great irony is that so many of those co-workers have since been downsized thanks to their saint’s non-defense of American interests. I’ve never been so glad to see the end a presidency.
May Trump do well and continue to confound our enemies.
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At work the lesbian stated what a bad year it was because Trump of course then one of the hot chicks shot her down. Funny shit. I still think my boss is a crypto-Jew though.
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And he didn’t get shot. I had a nasty feeling after that cnn piece.
Congratulations, fellow Whites in America. Make your country great again. It’ll help us, Eastern Whites making our countries great again.
In a thousand years, versions of us will discuss game. It will be glorious.
Good luck, brothers.
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MAGA. Follow our lead!
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LOL!! Really fucking off topic. I am at the computer with the Presidential Luncheon being covered on Fox News. Even TheCunt managed to show up (I would show up for the menu alone, tbh) but there are many dems who refused to show up. One of the reporters said: “They aren’t bystanders to history, they aren’t even spectators of history: they have removed themselves from history. And in time, I think they will come to regret that.”
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The grandkids got to watch Grandpa (America’s badass grandpa) sign his name. Notice how Trump’s son shitlorded and noted how he “added some letters to his name?” God…a family with T-levels of note.
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Pelosi managed to kiss his ass and attempt to undermine his Executive Importance all at the same time.
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Monkeys on a plane. Not just Samuel L Jackson. The First Monkeys.
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Pastor Deep Molasses prays that Trump is Divine Providence.
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I shouldn’t be such an asshole all the time. I actually did like his prayer.
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MONKEYS ON A PLANE LAUNCHES!! To California.
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He proclaims that he will chime in if Trump endangers children. Whateves. We all know what the shit means. I promise I will stop spamming the comments section with off topic shit.
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Have another beer. Its all good.
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Endanger children?
Hell, by the looks of his own children, all these “think o’ de children” nervous nellies should entrust every orphanage in America to The Donald.
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Just watched Trump’s speech….I didn’t like the end. It could spell trouble if he isn’t just giving lip service.
[CH: that was without a doubt the greatest inauguration speech i’ve ever heard. the ending was an acceptably perfunctory sop to the libfruit kumbaya orthodoxy, and was probably put in there by ivanka. i wouldn’t sweat it.]
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Being Da BigBoss means is time to speak softly while big-stick swinging upon enemy noggin is left to the likes of Yezhov, Beria.
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Beria the Butcher.
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they still think it’s all a big joke, that he’ll knuckle under like presidents used to do during Age of Cucks. Shitlord Era, now kiddies. we ain’t laughing this time…
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replied to wrong comment. was meant for this:
Lichthof on January 20, 2017 at 12:41 pm
This Fox News stream is anti Trump. Ripping him apart.
[CH: Cucks News has been anti-trump since day 1. strangely, you’ll find fairer coverage from abc.]
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They really seemed to be on his side from what I saw and heard. Everything I heard was almost bordering on fawning over Trump. They keep on saying good things and they keep on saying “the democrats have learned nothing” over everything the dems are trying to do. Fighting over the Director of the CIA, the protestors and even asking if Schumer had something to do with it as they first started coverage. So far, I only ever heard good things about Trump and bad things about the left. Right now, they are calling them all fear mongers and already came up with some really fancy title for Trump’s speech: “The No Man Left Behind Speech”
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Well, we are. Just not self deprecatingly. After all, you can’t spell slaughter without laughter.
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What was wrong with the end?
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The other commenters have kind of grounded my fears with their good spirits and rationality but, it was the “we all bleed red” and “there is no room for prejudice” speech. It occurs to me now, though, that this was after the Chicago incident. So perhaps it was a bit more couched than I thought. Though, I never thought Trump was every anything bordering on Alt Right.
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Just watched Trump’s speech….I didn’t like the end. It could spell trouble if he isn’t just giving lip service.
A small price he paid for the imminent putting of foot to azz for his country.
/XXX rape!
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CH…agreed….It was THORO’LY reassuring. A mental trip-wire to throw off balance the ‘Uni-Party’.
Good.
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In re Trump Inauguration 20 January 2017:
Brave new day in the USA, gentlemen; cheers to all and CH sundry…and to every free and independent American man that he may find his mission!
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Cheers
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Lolling at the protestors.
1) They didn’t have the balls to go after the inauguration.
2) They are learning what happens when they pull this shit with a strong President, my reservations about “no room for prejudice” and “we all bleed red” aside.
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90 arrests. Lol.
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They doubled down. As was said on the coverage, they don’t get that this is just going to lead to more rallying under Trump. There was also some surprisingly poignant wondering on Fox News if (((Schumer))) had anything to do with it.
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Fucking protestors burning trash now. Wonder if they like the smell of their own kind burning.
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Haha
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I try to mix it all up. Mostly changing the topic or tease. IMO its good to answer few questions , otherwise its too robotic/ try hard. If you know the purpose of the question, you can utilise answering to your advantage.
I like AA answers or opposite to what she expects (What would jerk say, or what Beta wouldnt). When the question is very straight, the golden standard is to skip. I dont like : ” Is this is interview or what?” because it sounds more like comedy than seduction.
Got some examples frm last 2 dates. Tough to translate since Im in Eastern Europe. But they were 6 and 8/10 and both laid later that day.
Example1 : Girl said, her friend got drunk and confessed about banging alphas while staying with her LTR boy. She asked me, if such girls are approaching me for bang. I did not answer and skipped the topic. Took that as yes, which is true as well. Tingles engaged.
Example2: Chick complained about guys being focused on looks and asked whether it is important. Answer : Yes, very important. Then asked if I would date her if she was ugly. Answer : Nah, I wouldnt. (Simple and blunt but it worked. Somehow, complicated elaborates wouldnt fit there)
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lol now that trump is prez all focus must return back to pua and Game.
This reminds me that I miss YaReally’s epic posts at Rational male and his RSD vid links. It’s a pity that he’s gone. Same with GBFM
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YR’s at home, reading The Turner Diaries and the CoC. Also handwriting notes apologizing to the girl he took a dump on and to MK for all his muh-dikkery in response to complicated philosophical and theological arguments that he now realizes were way over his head. He’ll be back.
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Ya Really is annoying but he had some truth in those walls of text.
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“Be interested if anyone at CH has experience with this.”
An early 20 something gal was giving me the age shit test and I responded that I am younger than Trump. Then I stated that I do not go out with women older than 29. Her jaw dropped and she started a slight laugh. Tingles ensued The rest is history. With all the age appropriate directives that went out over the last 12 years it has been a struggle. I have notice that things are starting to relax recently. The older (40’s and 50’s) women still try to shame with it but my frame and Trumps ascent have almost eliminated the issue.
Btw I am starting to wonder if the placating was worse for white women than black men the last 15 years. These older women have attitudes like they are 9’s and 10’s. It is truly a sight to behold. I had one look down at me because I did not have an I-phone. I amped it up by saying that my payments on my LG phone will be finished in a year or so and then I will look at getting an I-phone. She looked at me in horror. One more reason I can’t be around these old white women. Never have to deal with this shit gaming 20 somethings.
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Reblogged this on parallelplace.
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