Pulled from a sexxxy players’ forum, here’s some advice for older (or younger) men who want to know how to handle large age differences, particularly as the issue applies to online dating, where inclusion of age in the profile is required.
I lie on my dating profile and put it 7 years younger.
When I get asked my age in person I tell the truth.
Then they say “but your profile says xx”
“Oh, yeah that’s because when I had my real age on there all these old chicks were messaging me as if I want that”.
Then I make a comical shudder.
Hasn’t failed me yet.
Almost poetry. Why does this work? One, he’s assumed the sale. “Why *wouldn’t* younger women want to be with me?” Girls love that. Two, he’s implied his high mate value. “I have options, and age-appropriate women aren’t one of them.” Three, he’s demonstrated that reckless, careless asshole attitude that drives women crazy with desire. “Yeah, I faked the funk. What of it?” Four, he’s implicitly qualified and complimented her. “I’m with you, which means you made the cut.”
This technique can be used for real world interactions as well. The effectiveness will depend to an extent on how invested in you she has become. If you later reveal your real age with an insouciant disregard for her potential outrage, her ability and willingness to forgive and forget will be directly proportional to the love, or lust, she feels for you. You can do this with a lot of conventionally perceived mate value negatives that may deep-six a courtship before it has had a chance to get off the ground. Strategically omit any facts about yourself that you suspect deviate from her “Mr. Right checklist” until a later time when her 463 bullet point checklist has surrendered to her one bullet point vagina tingle.
One other thing… as one of the forum members wrote, a redirecting, strategically deployed compliment can go a long way to defusing female indignation over your naughtiness.
When/if she finds out, just smirk, “did you really think I was 25?”.
Then be impressed at her ability to find out your real age. Chics love thinking they were clever and can’t be fooled.
This is Sun Tzu seduction: Using a woman’s fondness for flattery against her. Just be sure it doesn’t come across like a last-ditch hail mary. Delivery matters. Pleasantly amused surprise is what you should shoot for.
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up to 25 years
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Dalrock’s & Vox’s MEN’s Night “HAPPILY MARRIED FATHERS NEED GAMESZ BIBLE STUDY GROUP” at the Church Meets Right After da “Sisterhood of da Sore Bungholes in Search of Beta PRoviders Bible Study Groupz” Finally Batman and Robin stood up, and Batman said, “I am a happily married father, because unlike all you losososoersz, I have game.” lzolzlozlzo
THIS Week da GBFM arrived a bit early for the Dalrock & Vox “HAPPILY MARRIED FATHERS NEED GAMESZ BIBLE STUDY GROUP” and I got to sit in on the “Sisterhood of da Sore Bungholes in Search of Beta PRoviders Bible Study Groupz.”
Normally menz are not allowedz to attend such sacred eventez but one of da chix recognized da GBFM.
“lotsas cockasz?” She asked.
“Dats da name dey gave me!” I said.
“IS dat da lostasts cockasz you were telling us about?” the head nunnery nun inquiredz.
“Yah” she siad. “da lotstatss lossttats cockas zlzllzolzozlzol.”
And all the girls giggled as the head nunnez said “well den pull up a chair and join us!”
I kinda dosed offz as they discussed the best strategiesz for finding beta providersz for der bastard childrenz, some of whom knew me not as “lostas cockasz” but as “daddy” whatever the hell “daddy” means in this anti-Father age.
Then one woke me up and got my numberz and a bunch of them wroterz it downz as one lsotas cockas can go a long long waysz and while dey get one egg per month da GBFM getsz a billion gallonsz of spermz, but mostly on thierz facesz as dat costs less in da long runzzznzn.
dey finishup der meetting and sing der prayer, which i joined in:
THE PRAYER OF THE REPENTANT SISTERHOOD OF DA SORE BUTTHOLEZ lzozoz
ten alphas pumped and dumped me
so i considred myself a ten
told all the betas “let’s wait and see,”
and now i am a single old dried up hen.
empowered today with my haughty blogs
calling on men to man up everywhere
where cocks once penetratd my hole for logs
jesus now forgives me via my prayer
please jesus please heal my sore butthole
i repent so send a beta provider my way
a good manned-up man with a good soul
the ones i ignored back in the day
but now i desrve me a nice nice moneyed guy
to pay for dates while i make him wait ’til i die.
to make him pay for what i gave away for free
back when i was younger hotter tighter
no longer can he butthext the reformed me
like they did when i was fifty pounds lighter.
so please jesus please help da men man up everywhere
to marry da jesus-healed butts of slutty slutts
and pay to raise our bastard kidz it’s only fair
dat betas we don’t lay gotta pay & never touch our holey butts
jesus holy jesus you had better answer our sisterhood’s prayer
or da sisterhood of da sore buttholzizoz gonna cut off ur nutts.
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shrtly tehrefater they all cleared out and then the hallejulah chorus struck up as the other menz showed up for Dalrock’s & Vox’s MEN’s Night “HAPPILY MARRIED FATHERS NEED GAMESZ BIBLE STUDY GROUP” at the Churc.
In walked the Batman(DALROCKAS?) and Robin (VOX?) mask-wearing chruchian leaders all full of nobility and aplomb and noble rectitude rectitude means that somewon walkw ithe a fire poker shoved up their ass rectum dude, or rectitdude for short lzozozolzozozozo.
One young man asked Batman, “I was hoping to be a fatherz, but my girlfriend aborted our baby without telling me.”
“Wot?” Batmanz laughed. “Didn’t you learn GAME dude?”
“YAh,” Robinz sated, “if you don’t make da gina tingle, she’ll toss the baby like a used pringle.”
and they high-fived as they were wont to do.
“YOU could have gamed her into having da babies you losersz!!!”
“Wasn’t the sex good” Vox asked? “WOt IS your cockas too small?”
“But abortion is the law of the land,” Another young man said. “Should we not seek to change the laws and make them more Chirstian?”
Batman sniggered.
Vox giggles.
“What we have here,” Batman stated.
“Is a playa hata!” Vix guffawed.
“No instalacnhe for you!!!!! lzozoozloozozozlzolz”
“In todays universitiesz there are less and less classes on the GReat Books for Men,” I stated. “If we could retrun the Classicla Code of Honor to da curriculumsz, then perhaps we could exalt marriaged, faith, and family.”
“DA GBFM WERE STOOOOPID PAGAGASNSNZNZNZNZN!!! LZOZOZOZLZLOZLZLZL” laughed one of the churchian fanboyz.
“FReaud and MArcuse were the true fathers of da GBFM.” Stated Boxer from the back.
“DA GBFM are silly silly,” Stated BAtman. “All one needs is a bit of game and a blog, and one will be a happily married fathersz!”
“But if we broght back the Law of Moses which JEsus came to fulfill.. . .”
“JESUS CAME TO ABOLISH THE LAW OF MOSES” snarked a frankfartian churchian fanboy, “TO MAKE WAY FOR DA DALROCKIAN REIGN OF GAME!”
The frankfaritan churchian fanboywas asked to move towards the front of the class, and later on he joined dalrockckkaks and vox at the Lavish Churchian Dinner alongside Boxer the atheistz, for truly, unburdened by da Law of Moses and GBFM and Spirit of Christ they had what it takes to lead the church to nbew gamey heights and better serve the Repentant Sisterhood of the Sore Bunghozlzlzlozlzloozoz: http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2014/10/02/single-men-with-jobs-are-becoming-a-scarce-commodity/
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timely, thanks.
last time it came up was a 25, she asked my age, i held up four fingers, she said 34? and i just moved on and let her assume it instead of 40. my response had been weak, this is better if i can work it in differently.
the 25 was sort of surprised post-coitus when her other friend i’d messed around with told her my age but whatever. it’s something i can improve.
Women often think I am about five years younger. I have long been determined to not consume things that would speed up the aging process. You can also put the right kind of lotion on your skin after you shower. It costs you almost nothing and if it makes you look a lot younger later on, then why not?
Talking about age reminds me: My ex-gf was very petite and looked a lot younger than she really was. She could pass as sixteen, very unusual. We often had people giving our looks when we were out together, and middle-aged, scowling women would give me angry looks.
Once when we were at a liquor store I saw a store clerk look at us and angrily whisper something to a male colleague. She was manning a table with free samples, and when we walked up to have a taste she asked for my gf’s ID after a cold look at me. After we had shown her the ID she incredibly didn’t bat an eye or look ashamed but immediately told us the rehearsed information about the samples. I guess that was impressive.
Another time we went to a coffee shop and passed by a group of guys and girls about twenty years old. I could hear one girl say, “How old do you think she was?” with a disapproving voice as we sat down a bit away. It might not sound like a problem, but to have people talk about you behind your back isn’t fun.
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In real life interaction I always let them guess – since I look younger than I am and most girls are basing their estimates on how most men look like when aging they usually estimate me 5-10 years younger. I just congratulate them on their guessing prowess and do not correct them. And frankly most girls never ask – they know that I am way older but they like it – especially here being a Westerner in Eastern Europe.
At what age do you start lying?
None. Stop giving a shit immediately at what she thinks at all. Women are not thinking about how old you will be tmr. They never plan ahead. The issue is tingles (woman truth) not culture (man truth). We are in a(n elite) man’s world of the (liberated by subsidy) woman’s netherworld now. Stop trying to build cathedrals. Too early in the cycle. For you, younger is lower cost and higher value always. Older chicks are for immediate slam dunks only.
Doug: “Stop giving a shit immediately at what she thinks at all.”
Exactly. Hiding one’s age is a feminine trait. Worrying about one’s age is a feminine trait.
The goal is to get into the girl’s party dress, not wear one yourself. If a girl has a problem with your age, and some will, so be it. Next.
Doug and Trainspotter, excellent points.
And stop worrying so much about what is truth or isn’t. Women don’t care. They are using talking and conversation to find out how much of a man you are.
When women ask my age, I’m 43, most of the time I just make a joke out of it and say something like “I’m 12 and a half. My mom says I really tall.”
Exactly, let women and gay men worry about their age. Straight men should be proud of their years, especially if they are in good health.
CH: fretting about any unchangeable condition of life is never a good look on a man.
At 40, I would put 32 on my profile. If the question came up, which didn’t happen often, I’d just reply that no one believed my pictures were recent if I had my real age on there. Granted, it was true, so that helped. I’ve also gone the other way at times and said I was 65 and ask them if they could give me a ride back to the senior center later.
[CH: agree&lify is a good tactic for neutralizing any age objections.]
when shit tested about my age i mistakenly said, i thought you looked mature for your age guess i was wrong. be careful not to shiv too deeply or get butthurt when things dont go smoothly
Brian: “I’ve also gone the other way at times and said I was 65 and ask them if they could give me a ride back to the senior center later.”
I’ve done that too, and it works well. Playfulness, with good delivery, goes a long way. Her role is simply to amuse you, up to and until she proves that she brings something more to the table. In practice, bringing more to the table simply means that 1) she’s hot and 2) she laughs at my jokes, especially the bad ones.
The key is to be comfortable with the fact that some girls will have a problem with your age. Their loss. Worrying about it, and adopting feminine practices of hiding the truth, may well give a short term victory here and there. But, ultimately, it’s unattractive for a man to have a feminine mentality. Let THEM be uncomfortable about their age. That’s their job. Yours is to be a man. You’re just a Jedi Knight, cool with the Force. She can take it or leave it.
For the more audacious, if she makes the slightest issue about your age, counterattack in a teasing, playful fashion. I once claimed that I was actually younger than her, measured in dog years (the idea that women age faster than men, so therefore…). Use that approach at your own risk.
But yet it’s the womens who say age is just a number….
As with many other things, women say “age is just a number” when they are thinking of a man they are already attracted to.
Good point regarding the 1 bullet point vagina tingle being more important than the 463 bullet point checklist. You see it in action in those moments when you really get in the zone and have godmode levels of confidence and outcome independence. A girl may have a boyfriend who checks off all of her requirements, height, build, job, eye color, political views, whatever. But let her have 5 minutes of alpha and she will realize that she really only has one item on the checklist and its those tingles shes feeling in her vag.
If you choose to walk away for better options after letting her have 5 minutes of your life, look back as you walk out the door. She will be haunted by you forever and you can see it in her eyes. For the rest of her life, no other man will ever be able to compete with her memory of you.
Its actually easier to pull off if you are in an environment like a dance club where talking is difficult or impossible. Become pure physical swagger, fearlessness, and raw sexuality and the world is yours.
The alternative I preferred for OKCupid was to put my age down as 100.
I don’t like lying, and I try to offer real value to my dates, not fake value. I wasn’t just looking to get laid (although I was), but also for a wife and mother to my children (whom I’ve found).
On Match that didn’t work, because they are busy bodies about age in the matching thing, which I think did cause me to take 10 or 15 years off on the profile, I can’t remember exactly. And the funny thing was I would often get into email exchanges with women on Match who would write me they wouldn’t go out with me because I was too old, while at the same time I felt this woman was too old for *me*. Invariably they’d be tall, beautiful accomplished women nearing their last days of fertility, who were still single because they had too high an opinion of their value. I never figured out how to lay them, but I wasn’t really that interested. I just quit Match instead.
In real life I never lied that I can recall, and it didn’t stop me from dating women well below half my age. Amusingly, however, my dates would lie about my age to their mothers and friends. In real life, there’s the huge advantage that they’d already seen me, and interacted with me, rather than seeing a number up front and dwelling on it.
On Match that didn’t work, because they are busy bodies about age in the matching thing, which I think did cause me to take 10 or 15 years off on the profile, I can’t remember exactly.
There’s a reason it’s known as oldsnatch.com
natphilospher: “In real life I never lied that I can recall, and it didn’t stop me from dating women well below half my age. Amusingly, however, my dates would lie about my age to their mothers and friends.”
Ha! Exactly. The reality is that the younger woman will catch some flak from her social circle for dating an older man. Some can handle this, others cannot. Don’t get seriously involved with those that can’t. You’re only going to be disappointed, and it’s not fair to her, either. The goal is to create positive experiences, not negative ones. Next.
The older man, on the other hand, will also catch some flak, especially from middle-aged women, but he’ll get plenty of high-fives, too, mostly from middle-aged men. Either way, he shouldn’t care. If getting older has any advantages, not giving a damn should be near the top of the list.
But girls, especially the younger ones, are much more vulnerable to social pressures. Frankly, that’s probably the biggest reason why a lot of older guys aren’t interested in pursuing younger women: having to deal with their moron friends. If you get serious, then sooner or later you’re going to have to deal with her world.
R.Don Steele covered this topic in detail in his classic “How to Date Young Women for Men Over 35, Vols I and II”.
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When asked about my age (by men as well as women) I always ask: what do you think?
Shortly before my 40th birthday, i was asked by a girl in her early 20s, with another girl of the same age listening (i was not interested in either of them btw). I asked what do you think, she said about 28yo and the other girl agreed. I smirked and said: no, I am a bit older.
Good to know that I can admit to my real age. I did so only once to a girl, and it was flattering to see that she was amazed. (We were already naked.)
Reminds me of the 70 year-old wealthy guy who, when asked how he managed to win and hold on to a gorgeous 30 year-old answered ‘I lied about my age’.
‘I see, so you told her you were 60?’
‘No. Told her I was 80′
Pretty good. Maybe I can match that:
an old, bald, short, frail, hunched gentleman takes a tall, blond, beautiful young lady to the bridal suite after their wedding. They both look pretty happy.
The baggage man, in his 50s with grey hair, tactfully advises the bridegroom to go easy.
The bridegroom replies: don’t worry, young man: if she dies, I’ll just marry another one.
I just tell them
I am 1369 years old.
I am a vampire.
I prefer the femoral artery.
Umm, what was the problem again?
I usually go for the, “Old enough to know that if you’re asking, you’re interested in more than my age.”
If she asks a second time I say something like, “Old enough to know how to make a woman beg me to stop because she’s exhausted and needs sleep.” Then I smile, lick my lips, and go back to whatever I’m doing. (Sometimes, that is my first answer and the second is more suggestive.) That works particularly well on the younger women who think that older guys have the secret to the universe – and they are right… We do…
Generally when a woman asks your age, she is looking for a reason to disqualify you as a lover, so don’t give it to her. Make her start thinking along the lines that you want her to think… That she’s already hooked, and wants to know more…
if you’re tall or have big hands you can use it as an opportunity to go sexual immediately with some impotence and tiny weiner jokes. “i’ve got all three inches working if that’s what you’re worried about,” in my experience they respond favorably, when it’s obvious you’re not likely small and if you’re having fun. plus along with deflecting, now the subject is your penis
This is timely. I’m now banging a girl who is 23 but because of the way she carries herself I thought she was 26. It’s interesting for me because she’s quite earnest in some ways and crazy in others.
We had drinks the other day and were both feeling drunk and I proposed playing the “Question Game”…”Ask me anything…make it interesting…”
Her: “How old are you?”
Me: “That the best you can do?”
Her: Yah how old are you?
Me: Is that really important to you? What do you think?
Her: I can’t tell….
Me: Old enough to know better and young enough not to care
For others I just give it as “40’s…” When I give my actual age AFTER I’ve banged them..they usually don’t believe it. Their idea of a dude almost 50 is not me.
Another thing to share is that since I’ve started banging younger girls, my own outlook has become younger—I’m more relaxed, more amused mastery, more confident—traits I would associate with a younger dude in the presence of a younger woman not an “older dude”….who I would associate with being pitifully grateful to be with a 23 year old.
Also, going out with younger girls means generally I have to pay more. These girls either don’t have big paying jobs or can’t afford cocktails. But I’ve made up for this by chosing more down to earth restaurants and getting them to pay or split. Also, I chose cheaper activities. Girls who are into me aren’t really into money but unfortunately to go out for a drink costs money, so I just go with it.
Finally, it’s also made me more conscious of how I dress–I dress better, cooler, more classically.
The 23 year old told me she was totally into 50 Shades of Gray so when we got to my place I made sure I banged her rougher than ever—hair pulling, telling her how I was going to fuck her hard, throwing her on the bed, etc… Then apart from making sure she got home safe….haven’t contacted her for a couple of days.
One of my hypothesis about male midlife crisis is that it’s related to how old the wife/SO is, not how old he is. And it’s transparent that banging younger girls makes you feel younger. In 2012, I traveled out of town with various groups about ten times and this included various girls. At that time, I also had a 19 years old girlfriend. Even though I was approaching my mid 20s, I didn’t really have any concern about my own age. Now I feel sort of iffy and old because I had a few unfortunate situations come together and I allowed my health, wealth and social circles go to waste. It’s just annoying as shit to dig yourself out of holes.
Regarding the cost, I usually ask girls to meet me in bars that are located in public parks. After the drinks, you can go beat them at minigolf, rent a boat and go to an island, have a walk, stargaze. I usually prefer using the drinks as a bait to get them out of the house and then do other things later. This saves me both money and makes nicer memories.
And a couple of my high-school classmates told me my father is cute and he was in his early 50s back then, so I assume it’s possible to slay 18 to 25 years olds in your 50s. It’s awkward because people naturally like my father(cashiers, sales girls, people that take your tax returns, security guards etc lol), but as a teenager, while I could understand what he does, I simply couldn’t control my emotions well enough.
I think the big problem about dating young girls is that they assume older people are actually members of another species. When I was 25, I thought people who are 30 are old not because they aged, but because they invariably turn into corporate drones and remove themselves from the group of people that have a life. I think the main thing to do is differentiate yourself from those people.
walawala: “But I’ve made up for this by chosing more down to earth restaurants and getting them to pay or split.”
Ha! You’re hardcore.
I realize that it violates a lot of people’s game rules, but I don’t mind paying. While I don’t spend extravagantly, I do think that an older guy can and should pay for more than he did when he was younger. Not to the point of being a sugar daddy, or even anything close, but still. I’m not buying the girl’s affection – I don’t spend nearly enough to do that – just recognizing the difference in our status and circumstances.
There is a tension between falling into the beta provider trap on the one hand, versus coming across as a chintzy loser on the other. Both outcomes are bad. The path to heaven is narrow, the highway to hell is broad.
@Transpotter Interesting…This is an area where I don’t cheap out but won’t but am very conscious of going too far.
Also, everything requires some amount of money, even taking the bus. But the girl is also conscious of this and will take a bus home.
I’m not buying her stuff. But when we go out for cocktails, there’s no way she can afford that even at happy hour.
But I don’t get the sense she’s with me for my money of because I pay for drinks. This is a new area for me so I’ll be monitoring it.
i’m clever enough to change the topic and raise the same question to the girl. then after her answer, i introduce myself as a year older than her.
btw. i’m 23 and banging teens ranging from 15-19 🙂 sweety juices..
I posted some remarks in the form of a very short, true to life story about myself on an online forum, purely as a gambit — a Chateau-inspired one — to give myself social proof. All of it was fictional, but nicely written I thought, just enough to get someone’s hamster started running.
That was the theory.
I had pretty much decided it was a failure. But four days later, I get a really nice email from a woman, 22 years younger than me, very local, putting herself forward to meet me.
Now, she gave me her stats and the chance to reciprocate with my details with her “so, how about you?”
I think I could play the age question more playfully in person, but I’m not at that point having never met her.
And fibbing on an online profile is one thing, but lying directly to her isn’t something I really want to do. Then again, brushing off the question or playing around it and ignoring the pertinent fact of age is almost like an admission of guilt. And seems coy and unbecoming. But stating my age point blank would be putting an anti-hamster land mine under her feet, maybe.
Any ideas? Ignore it completely? State it boldly?
I’ve delayed replying to her second email that gave her stats. Not sure if this will increase the hamster spinning some more or put it to sleep.
(she has enough context in my piece of fiction to be cognizant of a 13 year age gap — so she isn’t completely fazed by the idea of age of difference.)
I was shopping for a new cologne and found this make-up thing that gets rid of puffy eyes by basically starching her skin. Whenever I think I reached the limits of the ways women lie, I end up finding one of these things. So don’t feel sorry about lying to her – it’s not like her tinder pics aren’t some of her better pics and the like. This is like lying in job interviews: in the end, they are lying to you, so don’t feel any guilt in completely fabricating your CV if it suits your needs at that moment.
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This is the kind of post that seriously damages the cr5edibility of the entire blog, at least for those of us who live in reality.
Everyone looks 10 years younger and bangs 19-year old swimsuit models.
Curiously, none of these keyboard jockey internet fantasies are ever visible in real life.
How can men ‘dodge the age question’?
Easy: Be George Clooney.
[CH: i know at least ten couples where the man is 10+ years older than his lover. oh, and marriages skew older man-younger woman. just thought you’d like to know.]
Give it a rest Wolfie. i am 47, chicks in their early 20’s dig me. as do chicks in the late 20, 30’s 40′ and 50’s… You just need to by dynamic, passionate and authentic. Age only matters to her friends and her Mom. Not her.
Married her when she was 16 and he was 51
I assume that you are talking about the comments rather than the actual post. If so you have to keep in mind that men who look younger are much more likely to comment to this post. (Also, to read this blog.)
Looking 10y younger is easy: I looked at least 10y younger (in the opinion of men as well as women) even before cutting down on the carbs. What you have to do is keep your face away from the 3 S:
smoke
shaving
direct sunshine.
Sorry, that was meant to be a reply to Wolfie.
Shaving? How so and why?
Salt and pepper beards make you look older.
Smoke and direct sunshine I understand, but shaving? Does shaving prematurely age skin? Never heard that before.
I agree with Aspie Nerd here. Naturally those who look younger will be the ones more interested in writing about how old they look.