A smattering of far-sighted readers across the blogoglobe have impertinently suggested the possibility that as America the Disparate breaks apart socially, economically and perhaps even geographically, (a near-certain conclusion given present realities), a “Back to Europe” movement will arise in corners of the stressed population as a means of escaping the spiraling dystopia.
The thought of returning to an ancestral homeland is enticing. It’s been the enlivening cri de coeur of at least one major world religion. If you, as I do, subscribe to the notion that humans evolve in step with their environment, and that this co-evolution of culture, ecology and biology plucks deep, primal rhythms in the heart when the three are aligned in accord with their historical partnership, then it’s not a strange proposition that returning to Europe, the authentic homeland of diaspora whites, might speak to many Americans in the same yearning, nostalgic way that returning to visit the neighborhood and the home in which you spent your formative years produces powerful undertows of wistful longing.
This is the stuff of wild fantasy, but if the bottom falls out from under America it’s not at all inconceivable that millions of internally dispossessed Americans will cast an eye to a long-lost brother across the sea, in hopes of beginning anew what was so recklessly and stupidly squandered here. No one should expect a “B2E” movement to happen overnight; but we live in an accelerated age, and big change, say along a timeline of decades rather than centuries, is capable of sneaking up on you.
Obviously, difficulties in a Back to Europe de-colonization scenario present. Outlined below are a few of the biggest hurdles.
– The narcissism of small differences factor. Would the Europeans want us? Europe is already densely populated, much more so than most of the US, and the addition of 50 million Americans won’t alleviate that. Many continental Europeans don’t even much care for Americans, and view them as a distinct white ethnicity, loud, boisterous, ill-kempt, fat (guilty as charged) and uncouth, like the Dutch might view the Greeks. It would take a lot of convincing to get Europeans to agree to allow mass white American immigration, but if their native birth rates remain as low as they are now (Germany is at something like 1.2 TFR) then they may not have a choice but to welcome their wandering cousins back to the fold.
– The Mad Max factor. Would Americans be willing to leave their military and weapons industry unattended? Can you imagine the US nuclear arsenal in the hands of the left side of the bell curve? *shudder* And the good bet is that the left-behinds will be disproportionately left-curvers, as only the smart will have the foresight to know ahead of time to jump a sinking ship. (This last point is debatable.)
– The mutt factor. The founding stock of America is a mix of predominantly German, English, Dutch and Scandinavian ancestry. Irish, Italian and Polish added their bloodlines to the founding stock in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Since then, it’s been all downhill, but the essential biological nature of white America is largely unchanged: Most white Americans are some mix of the above European ethnicities. So where does a Euro-mutt American resettle in Europe? Germany? England? Italy? It’s not an easy question, as the theory of mind that evolution informs suggests that a Euro-mutt will feel ancient pulls toward each of his ancestral homelands. You might, for instance, feel equally benevolent toward the stoicism of Swedes and the lustiness of Italians, or equally comfortable in the mountainous Alps as in the steppes of Ukraine.
– The leftoid factor. Contrary to assumption, I think most B2Eers will be of the liberal persuasion. As Haidt has documented, conservatives possess a stronger moral emphasis on loyalty. It’s conservatives who will stick it out in America till the bitter end, loyal to the last. Liberals will cut and run as soon as their pasty, plush asses are threatened by real discomfort. Plus, Europe has always held more appeal to liberals, who nurse the idea that the continent is filled with sophisticates. To the liberal, escape to Europe is like a hipster backpacker’s dream writ large. Of course, liberals will rationalize their escape as being something like “getting away from those degenerate rednecks ruining America”, but by that time most of us will know the real reason, and it won’t be a secret carefully warehoused by a dying MSM anymore.
– The betrayal factor. To return to Europe is to dance on the graves of the Founding Fathers. It’s to say, “Sorry, old chaps, you bequeathed your posterity a great enterprise, and we made a hash of it. All that revolution for nothing.” Many Americans will have a hard time overcoming this emotional obstacle. Not a few Euros will probably rub it in our faces.
– The culture clash factor. 350+ years is enough time for a distinct American culture to flourish. It’s perhaps enough time for a distinct American genome to flourish as well. Plopping Americans into Europe could create a strain that, coupled with the dysgenic Muslim elements of European society, can’t be managed. But this is pure speculation. It’s just as likely that Americans, once safely in the womb of Mother Europe, will revert to their ancestral pre-American norms and imbibe the best of Europe’s culture while jettisoning the worst of America’s.
– The climate factor. Can America’s white Southroners, acclimated to their subtropical heat and humidity, take to the dryness and cold of continental Europe or the chill winds of the Scottish Highlands? If their genes haven’t changed too much, they can. White Northerners should have no trouble settling anywhere in Europe.
All told, the Back to Europe scenario is less likely than a Retreat to Canada or Trek to Australia scenario. Canada is closer and more simpatico (speak the same language) to American sensibilities, while Australians share Americans’ zest for life and genial brusqueness. If climate warming proceeds as predicted, Canada will become exceedingly friendly as a relocation spot (Australia less so). Regrettably, South Africa is a lost cause, and Russians have too much spooky Siberian blood in them to find enough common ground with Americans as next door neighbors.
For the single American man, the choice of relocation destination in Europe will depend on the beauty of the native women. At the risk of opening the floor to furious but unenlightening debate, all of the East European countries would rank high, along with Italy and France, followed by Sweden and Finland. But don’t stress about it. You’re going to Europe; woman-wise you really can’t go wrong since most of the world’s beauties hail from the land of the ice and snow where Cro-Magnons made inspired interspecies love with large-eyed Neanderthals.
Enjoying the Haidt citations. I think you neglect the fact that much of Europe is more besieged by immigration than America is, and more urbanized — so a greater percentage of it is affected. Seems like whites would have better luck seeking out remote parts of America if they’re interested in homogeneous ethnic communities.
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and ever since den
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christ tells me dat my ideas win
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You are a brilliant man. You covered so much truth in this satirical post. Too bad every neanderthal will be too hopped up on ritalin and too fat due to corn syrup to be able to understand it.
Whites certainly need their own living space on this Earth, void of any non-whites, but we need desperately to understand the magnitude of the Jewish problem, AND DEAL WITH IT, if we are ever to keep own living space livable.The four books below will go along way toward that understanding.
The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements
By Kevin MacDonald
The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements
Cultural Insurrections: Essays on Western Civilization, Jewish Influence, and Anti-Semitism
By Kevin MacDonald
Cultural Insurrections: Essays on Western Civilization, Jewish Influence, and Anti-Semitism
Separation and Its Discontents: Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism
By Kevin MacDonald
Separation and Its Discontents: Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism
A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, with Diaspora Peoples
By Kevin MacDonald
A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, with Diaspora Peoples
The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements
Cultural Insurrections: Essays on Western Civilization, Jewish Influence, and Anti-Semitism
By Kevin MacDonald
Cultural Insurrections: Essays on Western Civilization, Jewish Influence, and Anti-Semitism
Separation and Its Discontents: Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism
By Kevin MacDonald
Separation and Its Discontents: Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism
A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, with Diaspora Peoples
By Kevin MacDonald
A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, with Diaspora Peoples
Cultural Insurrections: Essays on Western Civilization, Jewish Influence, and Anti-Semitism
Separation and Its Discontents: Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism
By Kevin MacDonald
Separation and Its Discontents: Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism
A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, with Diaspora Peoples
By Kevin MacDonald
A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, with Diaspora Peoples
Separation and Its Discontents: Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism
A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, with Diaspora Peoples
By Kevin MacDonald
A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, with Diaspora Peoples
A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, with Diaspora Peoples
I have news for you. No matter what you will do or say, or what ridiculous books you write, you will never win against the Jew. You’re not the only one who tried blaming the Jews for everything wrong in his life. The result of such dishonesty in the past lead to destruction. If Europe is being destroyed now, it’s proof God is taking his revenge on Europeans who for 2000 years persecuted the Jews (his chosen people). Everything has a price, now that’s Europe’s price.
Don’t return to Europe. Stay in America since America never persecuted Jews and thus is blessed as a result. However, men like you and others here who hate Jews so much, are treading on thin ice. The moment America turns on the Jew is the moment its fate will be sealed for destruction. The only reason you see America struggling so much now is because some here have forgotten its Judo-Christian heritage, both from the Left and the Right. The Left is replacing it with atheism (destroying OT values) and some on the Right are neo-Nazis who would like to obliterate the truth about the Jews’ contribution to civilized society and western values. But as we say: “The truth shall set you free.” So stick to the truth, instead of making up scandalous lies, as well as omitting the truth about the Jews and their glorious genius.
Stay in America and fight to keep it white just as the Funding Fathers intended it to be. Leaving America to invaders is not an answer. And, blaming the Jews for your own mistakes is not an answer either.
“God is taking his revenge on Europeans who for 2000 years persecuted the Jews (his chosen people)”
Troll?
If da Europeans were so meany-mean to da poor likkle oppressed Jews, why did they keep returning to Europe? God’s chosen people sure must be masochists, just like da Negroes who be oppressed by da evil white man, yet continue to follow him everywhere he goes!
Jooze for amnesty and flooding America with non-whites.
http://intranet.hias.org/uploaded/file/019d91f6add54d316cbfafffb6012ebe.pdf
That’s interesting Tony, but aren’t jews one of the invading groups in America also ?? Additionally, please explain how Europeans have persecuted jews for over 2,000 years. Some facts would be nice.
Finally, jews always blame everyone else as to why they are persecuted, they never seem to have a moment of self reflection. Why would all these different ethnic groups, religions, and racial groups, always pick on the “poor” jews. Interesting huh ?
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Why do keep posting videos of this ridiculous Jew? Regardless of whether his message is truthful or not, what sort of audience do you think he appeals to with this sickening kosher mockery of Christianity?
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I PROPOSE A NEW GAME CHALLENGE: WHOEVER SIRES THE MOST OFFSPRING WINS.
Get breeding or die trying.
> “WHOEVER SIRES THE MOST OFFSPRING WINS.”
Gee, now there’s a novel idea.
But who is going to author this great American novel?
[CH: Those who can’t read.]
lol That’s the entertainment I’m talking about! Now you just let me know when you want to get some mud on your shoes with people who don’t mind getting rained on. You can come up for a little holiday. Maybe Mark and I will build a little guest house and have manospherians of the month drop by to tell of the news of the outside world or find a quiet haven to write their books. Bring a girl! Young ones are best fit for pushing you round in your wheelchairs as you age
Yep. I live in one of the reddest counties (rural) in THE reddest state in the Union. We’ll cling to our guns and religion until the bitter end.
America is the last best White Man’s country.
What?
How the Dutch might view the Greeks? Have you ever been to the Netherlands? Some of the fattest people in Europe…
Uneducated Dutch think greeks are lazy and live on european money.
Educated Dutch realize that the economy is more complicated that this and view greeks as nothing special.
Actually, Educated dutch think the jews ran a number on the greeks. That the rothschilds are now hired to ‘repair’ their economy and that their gold reserves will soon be in the Jew’s shekel-grubbing hands. The educated dutch also realize that greeks have inferior turk genes however. But they realize that all and every resistance against the jews is neccasary, and alliances must be made to rid ourselves of the Jewish menace.
Yes I’m sure the ‘educated’ Dutch or any other learned people of a Northern European nation just loves the idea of going to work and being fiscally conservative so they can carry a financially and morally bankrupt nation like Greece on their back.
Perhaps the Greeks should rack up more public debt, avoid paying taxes and go and strike more in order to give Northern Europeans more opportunity to become ‘educated’?
I find it difficult to get too worked up over the financial woes of a country with the GDP of greater Boston.
Many continental Europeans don’t even much care for Americans, and view them as a distinct white ethnicity, loud, boisterous, ill-kempt, fat (guilty as charged) and uncouth, like the Dutch might view the Greeks.
Actually, except for the fat bit, that seems to be more or less the standard view of Brits more than Americans. Europeans don’t generally run into Americans too much, and they’re more neutral about us than one might expect.
True!
source: i’m European
Though most of us dislike the politics of your country, but when meeting face to face with Americans it has no effect.
Libertarians have been talking about settling in New Hampshire for decades. It hasn’t happened.
[CH: Hasn’t Vermont been overrun with filthy New Yorkers over the last twenty years?]
the new hampshire thing was demolished by the lefties abandoning the hellhole of massachusetts. they of course bring their liberal voting patterns that destroyed the last place they were in, they don’t see any pattern at all, just new frontiers of fairness. same thing happening in arizona from california.
>>same thing happening in arizona from california.
Same thing also happening in TX.
Your argument is partially mistaken. Massachusetts people are moving to NH and it seems to be affecting voting paterns, but they aren’t abandoning MA (well completely) because it’s a hellhole (unless you mean just a tax hellhole). Most keep their home right on the border and do the 20-60 minute travel to their jobs, social life, and food. Enjoy the likable things in MA, but shop and sleep in NH to avoid all income and sale tax.
[CH: Hasn’t Vermont been overrun with filthy New Yorkers over the last twenty years?]
Yes.
I grew up in Vermont and my folks still live there. Back in the day Vermonters were the real self-reliant, small government Yankees that New England used to be famous for. That’s changed.
In the 70s flatlanders (a pejorative term for big city folk from Boston and NYC) started moving in and brought their corrosive liberal politics.
Now Vermont is high-tax, high-regulation and very unfriendly to business. Young people leave because they can’t find jobs. The median age is skyrocketing. The ultra-liberal state legislature is taxing everything in sight. Indigent layabouts move to Vermont to exploit the generous welfare benefits. The city of Burlington tolerates filthy, aggressive panhandlers who scare away shoppers and citizens.
On the plus side, no economic growth means the environment there remains pristine for flatlanders and their ski-chalets.
Ch,you are loosing credibilty here.This post is pure madness.
When a blogger shows signs of madness the readers disappear.I stopped reading Roosh when I realized that he has serious underlying issues and not really that intelligent.
Don’t disappoint me too.
ps:What is that spooky siberian blood the russians have according to you?Siberians in russia are not called russians,they are called respectively.
[CH: Gabba gabba hey! Is a guy not allowed to free wheel it once in a while?]
Free wheel it, sure — use his high-traffic game-oriented blog to push his radical political views? somewhat questionable. besides, you’d do better to let your observations on evo psych between the sexes and your blogroll speak for themselves
Wanting the white race to not go extinct is radical?
Wanting Western Civilization to survive and thrive is radical?
Not wanting our cities to turn into Detroit is radical?
just typed up a reply and lost it. I’ll try to retrace my steps
>Wanting the white race to not go extinct is radical?
assuming you’re simply out of touch and not being an idiot, yes, in this political climate that is a very radical stance to take. being whiter than bread myself (my lineage traces back to the Mayflower) and being tangentially interested in issues of HBD and evolutionary psychology, I more or less understand both sides of the issue, but I don’t really care either way. perhaps in the future all races will mix and humans will operate with a newfound homogeneity. however, the question is then whether or not humans will agree upon another distinction to separate groups … after all, no amount of mixing will bring the continents back together. this is the only rational argument against race mixing that I can imagine; that as humans our sense of “other” is so deeply ingrained that it is not only preferable but also necessary to operate as distinct groups, growing both philosophically and physiologically at our own paces and in our own ways.
I’ve read some Sailer posts and occasionally browse VDARE and AmRen, but none have managed to entirely convince me of the superiority of whites. perhaps we score higher on IQ tests and are objectively less of a nuisance to society, but is that really reason enough to get all riled up about it?
>Wanting Western Civilization to survive and thrive is radical? Not wanting our cities to turn into Detroit is radical?
classic strawman.
If everyone race-mixes the average IQ of the most intelligent will be dragged down. It will be a mediocre hellhole.
Now, if all races mix, due to evolution, genetic strata of people with differing qualities adapted to their environment would eventually emerge. People would segregate along these lines. And we’d have races again!
Thus the only solution, and this one is final, is to strive to conquer the world with your genes, and kill everything that is not you.
> “classic strawman.”
Huh?
Double “huh?” for me
To pick on one point just because I find it interesting, it’s another liberal aspirational lie IMO to think that “perhaps in the future all races will mix and humans will operate with a newfound homogeneity.”
I propose to call this the Warren Beatty fallacy. (IIRC, in one of his movies he says the solution to racism is to “Just keep fucking till we’re all the same color.”) I don’t think human biology works like that, races are not fully miscible. Interbreeding human races is not like mixing red and blue paint to get purple, it’s like mixing oil and water and getting a messy co-mingling, which will tend to separate itself back out in further generations of breeding down the line.
Race is real, race is not just skin color, race is old as the hills, and it’s not going away.
Found it, from the movie Bulworth: “All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep fuckin’ everybody ’til they’re all the same color.”
How does Warren Beatty thinks it all started?
According to the best science we have, we all come from Africa.
a few hundred thousand years ago we were all black and all in Africa and we were all fucking each other and look at the results; multiple races
Warren Beatty like most liberals is an idiot, he neither knows nor understands the facts
being whiter than bread myself (my lineage traces back to the Mayflower) and being tangentially interested in issues of HBD and evolutionary psychology, I more or less understand both sides of the issue, but I don’t really care either way. perhaps in the future all races will mix and humans will operate with a newfound homogeneity.
You SWPL deracinated fairy.
for entertaining for the sake of argument a commonly held opinion? try reading my post again
Apparently Greg Elliot is occupied elsewhere (perhaps waterboarding some E.German Stasi boys) so I will take it upon meself to do the honors…wait for it…YOU FAIRY!!!
Handle my light work for me, pal.
From day 1 this blog has never been a purely game blog. This blog is largely about disseminating society’s pretty little lies, like the banner above says.
I’m concerned. While I’ve never commented here before, CH views are becoming too controversial and are criticized and are really outdated too. This is madness! Please stop before it’s TOO LATE and write only of beta game and LGBTQ issues. You may already have destroyed your credibility!
Run you pussy, before the bad reputation rubs off on you! I can already hear them talk behind your back: “Ew, that guy hangs with Heartiste on the interwebz. What a creep!”
Do you ever try to muzzle free speech on anti-white boards? Or just pro-white boards?
I think it was sarcasm.
Finally! Someone else whose jests fall flat. lulz
“This post is pure madness”
Sounds so to me too.
USA is not Guinea Bissau, so you have to leave for Europe.
Stick for what you have, your North American country.
I mean what do you expect to find in Europe? Liberal shit everywhere, and faltering economies(not to the point of alarm but not advancing anymore).
I saw you mentioned settling in the “Ukranian steepes”.
OMG. Just that.
Can tell you how many rich Croat emigrants ended up really screwed by coming back to Croatia with their investiotions. They were skin ripped by state, and lost pretty much everything – well they were reduced to medium class Croatian citizen. Which is an utter catastrophe to them. And their investitions ended up invested in some villa of a local politician. Offcourse those that came to Croatia in a organized way – like banks did – that got connected with the government, effectively made us a colony.
Expect nothing less, even in Western Europe if you’re ever to arrive en masse refugee style.
Don’t think though, we have no love for you whites in US. Yes we do, as we do for Canadians and Australians, and as we would have for Afrikaaners (but apartheid and shit so people don’t appreciate them much, though it is changing as stories of crime and state failure in South Africa reaches us)
I’m a Russian living in Croatia, and thinking about returning to Russia one day is totally not an option at least so far. Mother Russia can do well without me, and i am raised in Croatia, so by my upbringing and mentality i am far away from Russian.
Don’t even contemplate such shit. it’s silly in most mild terms expressed.
Alex i thought you were in Cyprus? did you go?
No.
That was somebody else you was talking with.
He took my name.
It wasn’t even the first time, lool.
Yeah we pack up and run off to Europe and guess who’s coming to dinner? Right behind us? “Y’all be desrtin da BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAck communitay! Y’all ayne go now here muvvafuckazz!!”
France and Britain are being overrun with them already
If we found a way to colonise Mars, even in the least resource-rich part of the planet, the Scot-Irish would find a way to get there, with their vibrant pets in tow, to enrich us, mind you.
what is the opposite of “Scot-Irish?”
The Gospels address that question.
Especially the Gnostic Gospel.
Could you be more specific?
Wut
Thread winnah!
We’re sort of happy here in Italy that we managed to get rid of all that southern(Sicilian mostly) trash that migrated to the US, there is a reason why they had to migrate in the first place, mostly the fact they are ignorant, crass and prone to lazyness.
I’ve worked in NY and saw first hand some of that lot, I’d rather welcome Muslim immigrants, although they follow a malevolent cult of death that is incompatible with Western ideals that have New Jersey guido trash come back to this country.
[CH: I’ll think I’ll take happy-go-lucky guidos over allah-chanting beheaders any day of the week.]
You’re an idiot. And my ancestors came over on the Mayflower!
And your inability to close the doors here and your ancestors inability to close the doors in Britain has soiled both of your countries!! If you’re going to be beta at least stay silent, don’t pollute anyone’s mind with your wrongness.
MY ancestors were in Wrigley Feild when The Babe called his homer! True Dat!
Yeah… I don’t mind a firing squad or even the noose… but that beheading stuff give me the heebie-jeebies.
That’s only because you’ve been around Sicilians but not Muslims. Believe me, if you hung around Albanians, say, you’d get the same opinion you do now about Sicilians, only worse.
Spent some time in the Former Yugoslavia too did we?
“malevolent cult of death that is incompatible with Western ideals”
It is an abrahamic religion, much like christianity you dunce. The main reason why Islam is so “hostile” is because of Israel mostly.
“[CH: I’ll think I’ll take happy-go-lucky guidos over allah-chanting beheaders any day of the week.]”
What’s the percentage of muslims beheading people?
The real problem with muslims is similar to hispanics or blacks. The commit too much violent crime. Not that they are fundamentalists.
The Moro islands jihad is the world longest running conflict at 400+++ years. I e before Israel and before the USA.
Thet are sepratists rather than relgious
Dang, that was a good and succinct response. And I’m a Muslim.
P.S. A lot of the crazies who thirst for beheadings are funded by Saudi and trained by the CIA. See the manufactured war in Syria for confirmation.
“The main reason why Islam is so “hostile” is because of Israel mostly.”
Chuckle.
“What’s the percentage of muslims beheading people?”
I’m sure that sounded really tough minded in your head when you wrote it out.
Oh yeah?
Name me Christian states in which you are going to be stoned to death by preaching Islam, or what have you other than Christianity.
They are what they are, and Israel just created situation where they showed their true face.
1948 Israel was attacked with full blown invasions as it hardly even came to existence.
But i hold no grudge against Muslims, even those radical ones.They fight for their civilization and their faith in the way they think is right.
Though we will see what the future will bring since Muslim world is at a turning point – will they choose islamist or secular governments.
Religious hostility to the world or aspiring to acquirement of western standard of living.
What is a bottom line is that Islam has much, much greater potential for radicalization than Christianity. After all Muhammad should be their primary life example, and the dude died as a warlord.
I smell the odor of an agent provocateur.
“The climate factor. Can America’s white Southroners, acclimated to their subtropical heat and humidity, take to the dryness and cold of continental Europe or the chill winds of the Scottish Highlands? If their genes haven’t changed too much, they can. White Northerners should have no trouble settling anywhere in Europe.”
As you say. White Americans in general would have little trouble settling in Europe’s coldest climes, which is exactly where they should settle, because that’s where our, er, tropical cousins won’t, for the most part, follow.
saw an anthony bourdain show on quebec and the guy said ‘the cold weather keeps the riff-raff out’ and he said it in a way that seemed like he knew exactly what he was saying. and it was sadly attractive to me at this point.
The leftoids in Quebec are now importing Haitians by the thousands. Then there are all the do-gooders who resettled third worlders in Minnesota.
Oh, good grief, yeah: Minnesota. I once took it upon myself to warn a friend who was moving to Minneapolis that the city, by importing Somalian “refugees,” had managed to up its robbery rate by 400 percent, and that rainbow gangs of diversity were beating non-diverse people at random in the streets and uploading it to World Star Hip-Hop.
This friend identified me, correctly and without much rancor, as a “racist” (duh), but I think they might be safer for it.
Jean Raspail’s ‘Camp of the Saints’ suggests Switzerland holding out just a little longer than other Western countries against the universally praised rainbow vibrancy of diversity. (And South Africa — it was written in the 70s.) But I think Quebec is by far the likeliest candidate.
Switz has a foreign population of over 20% now, and I’m pretty sure not all of them are other Europeans.
In contrast with nearly everywhere else, Switzerland’s foreign population apparently raises the household wealth average rather than lowering it. Nevertheless, it’s probably unsustainable.
“As long as we only talk about economic classes, profit, salaries, and production, and as long as we believe that real human progress is determined by a particular system of distribution of wealth and goods, then we are not even close to what is essential.”
Julius Evola
Btw how are you going to achieve this?
Invasion?
It’s not an invasion it’s Undocumented workers
I want to see americans cleaning the streets of romanian towns.Badly.
I dont mention richer european countries as american undocumented workers will be out priced by the endless streams of south eastern asians and africans.
I want to see americans cleaning the streets…
Take up the White Man’s burden—
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper—
The tale of common things.
what do you mean invasion they would have to be racists to not allow me an unfettered path to citizenship in their country i thought
Americans can visit visa free but than the general rules apply.If you work here-you will be illegal.It’s not easy to immigrate to Europe legally.
It’s not that hard and easier than emigrating to the US.
I think the Muslims will overrun Europe well before the Hispanics overrun the US.
Writing from London here- hard to disagree with you.
I think it will be black Africans rather than Muslims, actually. Muslims and American Hispanics have similar birth rates, still higher than Euros but declining.
30% of English primary school children “ethnic minority”. A decade ago it was 16%. 20% of them don’t have English as a first language.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/411665/English-not-the-first-language-for-a-MILLION-schoolchildren
Depends what part of Europe you are talking about. I’ve been to Italy and it’s in much better shape than France, with much less immigrants. Also, in eastern bloc countries like Hungary or Poland, the Blacks and Muslims are pretty much non-existent.
Lebensraum. I needs it.
Its easy to entertain such a notion on a purely hypothetical level, but the reality is a movement such as this is fantasy. Things could become as a bad as the genocide in south africa but whites will stick it out.
Europe is WORSE! Fuck Europe and fuck Europeans. they’re nothing like Americans.
Poles will accept Poles, and Russians will probably accept Russians, but the rest have been here too long and are not wanted. Especially Italians.
Considering how few of these people speak their ancestral language, it would be a disaster. I have no interest in “returning to Europe”.
If I were to leave in search of permanent settlement, it would be in some poorly developed nation, and it would be with millions and a few other like-minded (white) Americans, and we’d do it right, so we aren’t threatened with murder and ostracized by the natives. they’d have to be taught.
Think “There Will Be Blood”, and you’ll get the jist of it.
You are wrong about Italians.I now a canadian femicunt who does not know even one word in Italian.Apparently she had an italian grandfather and thus has right to italian citizenship.So she can live and work in europe and could study here for free.
Did I say a fucking thing about the government’s willingness to accept new citizens? No. And who’s to say they wouldn’t try to stop it and change the rules once they’re met with opposition when millions of loud mouth square jawed steroid freaks and their equally disgusting “women” try to enter the small country? I am also eligible, it’s beside the point.
I’m talking about the people. Fuck the government.
You’re right in that the language barriers would be the biggest hurdle… not insurmountable for a folk of will and talent… but I fear the vast majority of Americans haven’t been that sort of mettle for a few generations now.
Just about everybody whose young and educated over there speaks English, so the language barrier is ironically lower for us than it would be for many others.
Yes a very large percentage speaks English. But depending on where you’re moving, you’ll be better off learning German.
I work with a German and he said almost everyone he encountered in Northern Italy speaks German, due to it’s proximity.
Italy does not have work for millions of Americans who will have to learn a new language, a new way of life, tone down their stupid guido attitude, a new system of measurement..
Really it’s completely implausible. Italians who came here did so during a time of incredible economic and infrastructural expansion. Italy has no such revolution waiting for cheap labor. The ex-pats who move there are already wealthy or can work from their office chairs while the dollars roll in, sipping shitty Italian drinks.
Joey D from BK is a clown to the average Italian. Hell, his ancestors didn’t even come from the area where you could find work as anything other than a shit shoveler. His ancestors were toothless sheep fuckers from the South.
Europe is multicultural, so not speaking the local language is not a problem. Demand an interpreter when interacting with local government.
we’d do it right, so we aren’t threatened with murder and ostracized by the natives. they’d have to be taught.
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OK, so if you were sent back in time, and placed in charge of Rhodesia when it was first founded, and had complete power; what would you do differently, to make sure it did not end up like it is today?
Rhodesia was stabbed in the back by the United States and its satellite European countries, if that never happened it would still be the ” bread basket ” of Africa.
you didn’t answer the question.
speaking of Europe , i am a guy with basic game. gonna spend the next 2 years in Germany(Bavaria), starting September. I have no connections there. Can you guys suggest away I can pipeline a few girls for easy lays online?
just to be clear i wanna pipeline online and bang in person.
Yeah… request a transfer to Hamburg and trawl the Reeperbahn.
Avaunt, thou impious fool.
Fuck that. This is my country, this is the last best hope, and I’ll die before surrendering it to the looters.
i say this as a fourth-generation American, but one without any international mixing. I have one homeland in Europe, extended family there, I have a place to go anytime I choose. They are not chunky or entitled, they are skinny with fat tits, blue eyes, blond hair, genetic perfection.
But I am American first. My ancestors and people like me built this country and bequeathed it to my generation. It was the first and only country built on an idea so that the cream of every people would be attracted to it: those with intelligence, balls, creativity, energy, courage — out of many, one. It is the light to which the producers of the world rally. It has been so successful that we became bored and started fucking with the formula.
I have no use for cynics who pronounce us dead, only contempt. Now we are testing whether any nation so conceived can long endure — every generation faces that test. The preposterous thought that changing geography will solve the corruption of the idea is nothing more than capitulation, and I tell you get out and good riddance. This place and none other was the geography that gathered the winners, absorbed them, unified them under the superior liberal republican Anglo-Saxon culture, and transformed them into citizens who could at last enjoy the fruit of their labors, untrammeled.
Just because the losers have temporarily seized the helm and are steering us toward the rocks is no reason to jump ship. It’s a reason to mutiny. It is a reason to Go Galt. Not to scurry back to the old world where the interbred royals and supplicants remained in fear.
That’s the problem with seeing everything through race. You are as bad as the leftists, and you’re missing the real problem. We are not genetically determined, we are culturally and morally determined. You are both poison fruit from the same Frankfurt tree. You do not understand the connections between the deep ideas, so you have no idea why a belief in Biomechanics as God inevitably brings you to the same utopian-nihilist conclusions of your enemies.
Matt
Did you sleep through that whole Dark Enlightenment thing these past few months?
“Dark” anything is for pussies and goth teens. Basement plotters, blogster revolutionaries. I don’t scurry into the shadows and whisper sarcasm. I am “the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hid. Nor do men light a lamp and put it under a bushel, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house.”
The “Dark Enlightenment” is a label for undereducated people who have little grasp about the sources of their thinking. Just because it’s new to them doesn’t mean they have innovated anything. In fact, they would save everybody’s time by exploring the “best that has been thought and said” rather than attempting to cram age-old wisdom into their novel epistemologies and categories of speech.
Matt
“The “Dark Enlightenment” is a label for undereducated people who have little grasp about the sources of their thinking. Just because it’s new to them doesn’t mean they have innovated anything. In fact, they would save everybody’s time by exploring the “best that has been thought and said” rather than attempting to cram age-old wisdom into their novel epistemologies and categories of speech.”
Amen.
This whole Dark Enlightenment thing is just a bunch of n00bs reinventing the wheel that men already fashioned ages ago, when it wasn’t illegal to be a man, when political correctness was rightly laughed at and dismissed.
Check out this 1798 description of the “Negro” in Encyclopedia Britannica: “NEGRO, Homo pelli nigra, a name given to a variety of the human species, who are entirely black, and are found in the Torrid zone, especially in that part of Africa which lies within the tropics. In the complexion of negroes we meet with various shades; but they otherwise differ far from other men in all the features of their face. Round cheeks, high cheek-bones, a forehead somewhat elevated, a short, broad, flat nose, thick lips, small ears, ugliness, and irregularity of shape, characterize their external appearance. The negro women have the loins greatly depressed, and very large buttocks, which give the back the shape of a saddle. Vices the most notorious seem to be the portion of this unhappy race: idleness, treachery, revenge, cruelty, impudence, stealing, lying, profanity, debauchery, nastiness and intemperance, are said to have extinguished the principles of natural law, and to have reproofs of conscience. They are strangers to every sentiment of compassion, and are an awful example of the corruption of man when left to himself.”
LOL. Back then, men just told it like it is. That was the true “enlightenment”.
“The negro women have the loins greatly depressed…”
wut?
please elaborate for the lzolozos. does this mean what i think it means?
It means they have swayback.
swayback?
ok i get the swayback but thats not how i read it…
Lol, someone else can take this one.
That’s kind of the point though – it has to be done because so much knowledge has been destroyed in the last couple of generations. Tom Wolfe wrote a great essay called “The Great Relearning”. It described how doctors in Haight-Asbury during the late-60s hippie era had to relearn how to treat diseases that had been eradicated in the civilized world for centuries. Many of them didn’t even have names. The hippies had thrown off civilized notions of things like hygiene, and consequently got fungal and bacterial infections that were unknown to late 60s medicine. The boomers really did institute a Pol Pot style “Year Zero” regime in many areas of knowledge. It’s hard for me to slander youngsters who are now relearning the old ways.
Matthew King
But I am American first. My ancestors and people like me built this country
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Yeah, you built this country with slavery and genocide; now you want and award?
What country you from?
We did about as good a job with genocide as you fellows did “building” Detroit.
“Yeah, you built this country with slavery…”
Does the donkey that pulls the plough take credit for Agriculture?
Hey thwack, take a look at Rome two thousand years ago. Now take a look at Africa today. Now hang your head in shame.
@ thwack – Stupid, ignorant fool! Slavery and genocide have built a great many civilizations troughout the world. What is unique about America is that ir was built on individual freedom and individual reason!
What country you from?
I think if you do a cursory scan of any other post on this thread from me, you will quickly conclude I’m from the United States. How about you, Kunte?
What is worse;
Slavery that helped built the greatest nation in the history of the world where the descendants of slaves are paid to sit on their asses and get fat?
or slavery that accomplishes nothing but misery in mud huts and is still going on in parts Africa as I am typing these words?
Sorry Thwack bad example. Africans have had slavery for thousands of years, and , for a few exceptions, haven’t accomplished anything near to what many other racial groups have.
i.e. Africans enslaved their own kind and sold them to the White man.
Was the slavery based on color?
” Was the slavery based on color? ”
No not really, I’m sure Africans sold black slaves to other Africans also.
We are not genetically determined, we are culturally and morally determined
Funny, then, how people with a certain genetic make-up created and passed on their culture and morals to offspring with the same genetic determination.
See, man! It’s the culture and morals that floated down and just happened to interest white’s enough to absorb them into their skin, yeah, like sun rays and shit!
+111… as much as it’s true there are remarkable individuals of all colors and creeds… likewise, candidates for perdition… it’s percentages that matter, at the end of the day.
The Matts of the world think morals and culture existed before DNA’s arrival. God forbid if culture and morals be an outward expression of DNA.
Understand… as Christians, we’re obliged to at least pay some lip service to free will.
Not if your a reformed protestant/Calvinist…
Johnathan Edwards, Freedom Of The Will, FTW!
@ newlyaloof – “God forbid if culture and morals be an outward expression of DNA.”
Yeah. Immanuel Kant and Thomas Jefferson: they got their identical ideas from their identical DNA…
Both white men of Central/Northern European stock… I’m guessing that sonic boom I heard was his initial point flying over your head.
@ Greg Eliot – Oh, I got his point; you, however, didn’t get mine. Kant is the father of the Counter-Enlightnment and of modern collectivism; Jefferson is one of the towering figures of the American Enlightnment. Get it? Barbarism, massmurder and economic stagnation – great “outward expression of DNA”!
I prefer Jefferson and the United States of America.
So should I accept Jesus as my savior and seek improvement by following his word?
Or does my savage, coon like negro DNA (idleness, treachery, revenge, cruelty, impudence, stealing, lying, profanity, debauchery, nastiness and intemperance) mean its a complete waste of time?
Please tell me know so I can consider converting to Islam.
The former.
You get wise… you get to church!
Dont the brothers think Jesus was black ??
I didn’t say there weren’t genetic limits. Of course there are. I am saying they are neither the sole nor decisive factor, so fixating on them leads to an inaccurate analysis.
Our cultural commissars need to factor in race more than they have — I am from the Charles Murray and Steve Sailer school of race realism. But you are not helping anything by emphasizing this point to the exclusion of all others — especially among the people who agree with you, like me.
It makes you sound as though you have nothing to say about the other, more important contributors to a man’s development. Like you want to reduce a complex discussion down to the narrow area you know best, and then tar the rest of us as insufficiently zealous.
Matt
What do you do for a living?
He’s a semi-retired gynecologist who still goes into the office a day or two each week… just to keep a hand in.
Let me go back to what started this:
We are not genetically determined, we are culturally and morally determined
I see a comment like this and I think – he thinks genetics have NOTHING to do with what makes white folks successful. I simply state that it plays a role, but it DOES NOT mean other races can’t be just as civil, intelligent, and successful as whites are (Did you read that Ulf E?)
When someone says WE ARE NOT genetically determined, I logically conclude this person discounts all genetic influence.
Some funny shit. I grew up with more “diverse” friends, of lower social status, than 99% of white folks. I’ve been intimate with black girls too. The Elf Es of the world can kiss my acculturated ass.
The jews apparently are MORE intelligent than us and theyre a race of monsters from hell. So…the black pussy you enjoyed notwithstanding,I’d say you are an idiot.
Me: Thank you Alex; I’ll take Jewish girls for a thousand.
Alex: “Intelligent monster pussy from hell”
Me: What are the 2 zhid chicks I fucked?
Alex: You are correct!
@ newlyaloof – Yeah, whites… Like the German Nazis irrationalism, altruism and collectivism absorbed by American whites from a nation based on reason, individualism and freedom, “like sun rays and shit”.
Pathetic.
It never ceases to amaze me that you cogdis dweebs still think railing about NAH-ZEES in the usual Cathedral shaming language accomplishes anything.
You fairy.
@ Greg Eliot – It never amazes me, since you’re obviously stupid, that you don’t get that I am not trying to shame anyone. What I am saying is that there would have been nothing basically wrong with America, had you not started to import the same philosophic ideas that led to the bloodiest war in history. That implies that the struggle to save America is not about importing more stupid collectivist ideas (like racism), but about joining the New Enlightnment and drive the marxists out of Academia.
It is the Frankfurt School that is known for spouting the bullshit you have just claimed: that “we are culturally and morally determined.” You are agreeing with them, my ignorant friend.
You are simply offended by the reality of biology. Don’t be. Embrace it. That doesn’t mean that biology is everything. But it is very important.
I’m afraid the biological determination that white people are an abject racial failure is a little more unsettling than the metaphysical determination that choices and ideas matter.
A fair point.
But I’m guessing he’s not throwing the free will baby out with the bathwater by his mention of:
That doesn’t mean that biology is everything. But it is very important.
Yeah. Someone who thinks I am “simply offended by the reality of biology” is not a person I’d expect could understand nuance.
We are genetically determined. We are also culturally determined. Our elite, policy-making culture (and this accidentally Darwinist subset of sociological amateurs) err too much on the side of fatalism. You call it genetics, they call it History. We can all navel-gaze over what the precise nature/nurture, free will/fate mixture is. But the point is, today’s totalitarian imbalance is heavily weighted against free will and therefore militates against the very possibility of individual liberty.
You are ultimately, deeply, fundamentally part of the problem. If you think a black savage could be more easily genetically doctored into becoming a responsible citizen than he could be culturally formed through total education and training into civic responsibility, I don’t know what to tell you.
There are obvious limits, but I will take a God-fearing, military-disciplined black man over a neckbearded white Ivy League hipsterfaggot. Wouldn’t you?
Or are you yet another ideologue with whom conducting a reasoned discussion is impossible?
Matt
I will take a “neckbearded white Ivy League hipsterfaggot” over a “God-fearing, military-disciplined black man” any day. The white Ivy Leaguer has more potential in his own life and far more potential in his offspring for the next thousand years (if he manages to have at least one kid) than the black man, who, if he has a kid, will only be reducing the quality of the overall population (forever!). And the long term of humanity in general and of Western people in particular is far more important than the next 20 years of this liberal democratic experiment (the USA) that my blood has been mixed into since before 1776.
And there is a big difference between genetics and what our elites currently rely on in making policy. I don’t get why you would subsume it all into “history.” You seem to take “free will” as some kind of magic that makes anything possible for anyone. No, “free will” simply means that people make choices. Those choices are nonetheless heavily circumscribed by, among other things, genetics.
There are obvious limits, but I will take a God-fearing, military-disciplined black man over a neckbearded white Ivy League hipsterfaggot. Wouldn’t you?
Alas, a chink in the armor of the usually redoubtable King.
Herein lies the rub… we all have our “good Negro”… as do we our often-all-too-numerous pale-skinned betes noires…
But what then? Say we could wave a magic wand and get a Mulligan on our society… only allowing “good” God-fearing and disciplined blacks to mingle with us “good” whites.
Will they and we all “stick to their own kind” in matters sexual, whilst cooperating and mixing on all other levels?
Could there ever be that “separate but equal” society envisioned by Booker T., et. al. ?
Or would we, several generations later, merely have the same bullshit we have today?
I strongly suspect the latter… (can a leopard change its spots)… hence, what’s the point?
It’s like the old maxim about a hornet’s nest in the backyard… sure there are some “good” hornets that won’t sting you… but there are definitely others that will… and by the time you can tell which from which, it’s too late… and besides, the “good” ones aren’t EVEN going to side with YOU over their own kind.
uh oh. matt and greg are at a crossroads…
You’re extrapolating too much out of my exposition of principle. Pure freedom creates natural segregation: people want to be with their own kind. Look at any mixed school lunchroom. Look at the miscegenation rates of SWPL. There is little cross pollination when people are free to choose. This is as firm or firmer than any other theory of race.
I don’t share your racial theories, apparently. I do think there are genetic limitations we are not allowed to talk about (again, cf. Sailer and Murray), but I do not think they are impervious to the influence of superior culture, and in fact are substantially upgraded by mere contact with, not to say total immersion in, an advanced civilization.
This is why the American experiment is so important. We didn’t just move Ireland or Italy or Germany over here wholesale. We poached their most adventurous and courageous and industrious. We assimilated them into one national identity, and the cream of the various stocks merged.
Without the importation and subsequent liberation of enslaveable people (the dregs of African stock, who gave their liberty rather than their lives), and without the soft genocide exemplified most explicitly in the 1965 Immigration Act, the United States would be 95% white today. The point is, we don’t have to discriminate by race when natural superiorities already do that work for us in a competitive immigration market.
The problem with minorities in this country isn’t that they’re not white. It’s that they are not American. We allowed the importation of non-Americanizable peoples by dropping our standards for entry (chain migration) and ending assimilation (because that would be “racist”). Confusing the American idea with whiteness — though they almost perfectly overlap — is the first step to destroying the American idea. It kicks the legs out from under the experiment which says a nation can be formed by a common culture of volunteers based on an idea of liberty. Why couldn’t we be happy that almost 100% of the go-getters who qualified were white?
Racism is pernicious because it opens the possibility of different standards of judgment above the the American idea, which in turn allows the enemy to beat us with an the even more insidious weapon of self-hatred — affirmative action, white guilt, acceptable anti-white animus in the guise of “anti-racism.” We bypassed that playing field because our superiority was so obvious. We didn’t have racial litmus tests because it never occurred to anyone that whites wouldn’t dominate. Like women taking the fireman’s physical exam — so long as we focused on the standards of the exam, rather than the sex of who was being examined, the firehouses would be stocked with 99% men. But by focusing on (or even noticing) the secondary characteristics, we allowed them to replace rational standards with those characteristics, only now put to use for opposite ideological ends.
By making this a racial thing, we give up our extraracial, philosophical justification to the manipulation of leftist race-mixing laboratories. Instead of enforcing a rigorous intellectual standard based on an individual’s capacity for wealth-creation, creativity, and production, we gave in to the crude calculus of race. Once that happened, they were able to take our incidentally eugenic project and make it deliberately dysgenic. They agree: America was founded on racism, and those of us who claim it to be the great experiment to gather liberty’s elite are merely promoting a veneer of jingoistic civic mythology. Your race theory of separation gave them the justification for a race theory of glorious miscegenation. When the real answer is: race is irrelevant, and if we would have just kept our mouths shut, natural segregation would have achieved the ends we are looking for.
You are giving them the rope to hang us with.
I am not thinking of that genial negro who shines my shoes with a smile, I am not imagining how heartbroken I’d be if we herded him onto a cattle car so unfairly. This is womanthink — to extrapolate from personal experience into categorical imperatives.
I am thinking about the most efficient way to achieve the same ends. Cattle cars aren’t just messy, they’re a band aid and no long-term solution any more than Boston busing was. The quickest and simplest way to achieve a lasting segregation is to simply trust in the superiority of the white race to dominate a free market.
That’s why I am a partisan of liberty, a protector of that free market, not just because I personally thrive there but because I know that is the best place for white men to be, unencumbered, and left to their own initiative. That’s why I say a pox on utopian thinking from both the left and the right. Focus your energy on liberty, and we white people will do the rest.
I appreciate your disagreement: finally criticism from someone I respect and therefore can take seriously.
Matt
Hard to gainsay any of what you say…
It’s just that in so many ways the genie is out of the bottle, and there’s no putting it all back in a semblance of order to restore “the good old days” within the current political, and especially racio-geopolitical, milieu.
It seems to me that what is first order of business is a regrouping… an ingathering, if you will… of enough racially-minded (or say non-deracinated) whites if any sort of American Dream mulligan is to be achieved further down the road.
The number doesn’t have to be large… indeed, not even an overly-significant percentage of current whites… but a homeland/nation, in the truest sense of the word, is a sine qua non.
I wouldn’t disagree with an “ingathering,” if only to take a step in the right direction, crude though it would be.
The problem with categorizing by race isn’t because it’s “discriminatory” (repulsive neologism) or because there is some virtue to being “colorblind.” It’s because race preferences enervate whites who don’t have to earn their status. It separates people by what they already are (and always must be) rather than by what they accomplish, what they think, or how they behave. It solves the genetics issue by giving away character. It recreates a royal lethargy, the kid who was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple, nothing for him to do except be.
Now it may be true that
in so many ways the genie is out of the bottle, and there’s no putting it all back in a semblance of order to restore “the good old days” within the current political, and especially racio-geopolitical, milieu.
but this is a conclusion based on temperament and worst-case-scenario extrapolation more than reality, because nothing has come to pass yet. I see the value in pessimism, but none in despair. Particularly since the final Victory has already been won, and all that remains for us is to keep the faith.
People should become Christians if only to gain the training necessary to be honest about these matters. The only way through the confusion is to hate the sin and love the sinner, to love your enemy enough to fraternally correct him. The typical undereducated secularist finds it baffling that I can love blacks and hate the culture (or even their genetic predisposition) that destroys them, or to love Jèws and hate their ressentiment, or to love leftists/nihilists/hedonists while hating the flimsy philosophies that, for all their flimsiness, still somehow enslave them. My enemies think I’m disingenuous for not despising men burdened by lies. But for Christians, it’s just another day building up the kingdom.
Matt
Particularly since the final Victory has already been won, and all that remains for us is to keep the faith.
A fair point, one I earnestly hope for… yet I backslide on occasion, as you have noticed, and still feel the compulsions of Man’s veneer over the jungle.
I love that reproof, brother.
@Matt
It was a great comment, but you ruined it with this statement: “I appreciate your disagreement: finally criticism from someone I respect and therefore can take seriously.”
Honestly, could you really respect this person who sees nothing but race? Can he be more narrow-minded? Can people like him be more foolish or more dangerous to our country?
His type of thinking will bring our destruction, as it’s not the thinking of the original people who founded this place. Once we veer from the purpose of our founding, we lose our right to exist. America exists specifically because it’s the shining city on the hill, because it’s diffident form all other places in the world, including Europe – the very place its original inhabitants immigrated from, and because it’s an idea never tried before. The moment we abandon this idea, we abandon the purpose for which we came here, and we lose all right to exist as a nation. There are countless counties that look like Africa, Asia, South America, and Europe, but only one America. A special place where the best of the world came to and created great things. Focusing solely on race as our main problem is a big mistake, and only narrow-minded fools like Eliot care about that alone. It’s as if nothing else matters to him but race. Curious, is he a reincarnation of Adolf Hitler?
Tony,
What’s naive is you presuming that all different people can fit into and “get” the American project equally. Europeans, for the most part, have been able to prove they can. Whether pro-big-government Latinos or Asians or our own black population can is quite a different matter, but so far, given their lopsided votes for Obama, I’m not optimistic.
Apparently Tony only reads what he wants to, like the rest of his OMG, RAY-CISS!!! dweebs… and has missed the innumerable times I’ve mentioned “remarkable individuals to be found in all colors and creeds”.
“Only sees race”, pfft.
And then talks of my alleged “narrow mind”.
Curious, is he a reincarnation of Adolf Hitler?
Some song, different verse… lulz
It’s laughable how all the Cathedral shamers attempting to sit on high horses always tip their cogdis usual-suspect hand.
Curious, is he a reincarnation of Adolf Hitler?
Some song, different verse… lulz
It’s laughable how all the Cathedral shamers attempting to sit on high horses always tip their cogdis usual-suspect hand.
The Godwin is strong in this one.
See, this is the kind of purist stupidity you need to keep in check. The question wasn’t which racial stock would be best to perpetuate; the question was which is the superior man. But your genetics-on-the-brain is so total, so out of control, that you cannot even conceive a scenario where any black man could be superior to any white man. And that is how ideology poisons wisdom.
Because it is real wisdom to say white genetics are more valuable than black. But the question was about individuals, not their genetic legacy. What will it take for you to admit there is more to consider than determinism based on shaky science?
I “subsume” nothing “into History.” I do not deny the “heav[y] circumscri[ption]” of various factors. But you don’t know how much of a good thing is too much. You have no means to effect a “constrained vision” (h/t the Negro Thomas Sowell).
Matt
How can you extricate the individual from the whole of the legacy?
My best friend’s father is an evangelical church attending black man from the military.
My best friend is a stripper form the projects in the south bronx.
I loves her though. I take her over neckbearded hipsters every day.
Who would you rather give you grandchildren: a God-fearing, military-disciplined black man or a neckbearded white Ivy League hipsterfaggot?
The white man.
Does my rationale confuse you?
Now, who would you rather run your subsidiary and keep it profitable? Who would you rather lead one of your platoons into war? Who would you rather have a beer with? Who would you rather have your back in a bar fight?
Who would you rather teach your children about history?
Who would you rather be a stepfather to your grandchildren?
If you said the skinny-necked homo hipster in any of those cases not involving broad genetic issues, I must conclude you have never met either a genuine hipster or a genuine Christian with a military background.
This is what happens when you put genetics in their proper perspective, rather than allowing them to serve as a substitute for judgment and discrimination (in the old sense).
Here’s another one for you: who would you prefer to write the majority opinion for your pro-discrimination case, Justice David Souter or Justice Clarence Thomas?
Matt
Matt seems particularly ignorant about the performance of the black male in the armed forces. I guess he got a hold of some Communion wine and watched “Red Tails” and got all weepy! The record of the segrgated units in WW ll–the Good War,whereby we defeated the civilization destroying NAH-ZEEs and allied ourself with the dear lovable USSR–was terrifying. Violent and out of control,and extraordinarily incompetent and cowardly.Emmet Till’s father served. He wound up stretching a rope for murdering/raping some Eye-Talian ladies. They pushed integration HARD to get this covered up. His imaginary Uncle Tom black Gunga Din may indeed be preferred ina barfight,as long as the fight does NOT center on say,George Zimmerman. Matt who would you rather meet on a dark streetcorner? The faggot neckbeard maybe?
“I will take a God-fearing, military-disciplined black man over a neckbearded white Ivy League hipsterfaggot.”
The choice we have to make in the real world is do we want to live in a white country or a non-white country. We can always sort out culture later. Race mixing is forever.
We can always sort out culture later.
I see what you’re saying, but you are not correct.
Yes, let’s first liberate whites from the ideology of happy miscegenation and allow a recovery of their natural genetic disgust at mixing to take care of the rest.
In the meantime, we can’t skip a generation when it comes to teaching the virtues necessary for independence. The purest race preservation won’t matter if it produces drones who believe virtue is naturally occurring in their blood rather than originated by the hard work of their ancestors and sustained through themselves.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
— Ronald Reagan, 1961
Now whites, and only whites, created the conditions where liberty might flourish, but it would be a fatal mistake to think whites naturally create freedom rather than merely being strongly disposed to the freedom historically relative to the other races. Every child is born a savage.
Anyway, not on my watch. And none of this has to do with preserving the stock. That happens on its own, and the more we tinker, the more we pave the way for our enemies to use the same rationale for opposite utopian ends.
Matt
Although I am with you Matt, you have spoken like a good native American. Or a confederate. Rhett Butler is with us. He always was a sucker for a lost cause.
I was thinking more along the lines of Nathan Bedford Forrest, a man with BIG BALLS! Get there firstest with the mostest!
“But I am American first. My ancestors and people like me built this country and bequeathed it to my generation. It was the first and only country built on an idea so that the cream of every people would be attracted to it: those with intelligence, balls, creativity, energy, courage — out of many, one. It is the light to which the producers of the world rally. It has been so successful that we became bored and started fucking with the formula.”
Agreed. I would further like to invite anyone who is willing to abandon our country in its time of need to please go ahead and do so now. We don’t need you.
My race is my nation. Fuck the abomination the US has become. It’s time to put the beast down.
Check genetics of the Europeans.
Celtic, Germanic + Only God knows what else.
It isn’t abomination, any less than Europeans.
There is simply no nation on Earth that is genetically homogenous, but still somehow with all that middle Eastern and African genome Europeans are white.
Your race? And what race is that, precisely? If you’re an American, and you’re white, then chances are very good that you’re an admixture of a good half-dozen countries of origin, each representing multiple ethnic strains from centuries of European warfare and conquest. I’m so pale you could read a book through me if the typeface were sufficiently large, but I’m a mutt just like everyone else—and I bet you are too.
And if you see this nation as a beast to be put down, then you might as well be a ululating burka-wearing clitidorectomized splodeydope as far as I’m concerned.
You’re the only girl for me, hillbillybaby.
Gotta luv that ululatin’!
Agreed. My ancestral homeland would be the U.K. and I sure as h*ll wouldn’t want to live there.
That’s a fool’s game. America is lost. It is dead. It no longer exists, and hasn’t probably since 1990-91 at least.
America is dead because it is filled with non-Americans. Mexicans specifically. This is not America. This is Amexica, or Mexica, or North North Mexico, or whatever you want. What it is called is beside the point, it is defacto an annex of Mexico, run by Mexicans, Blacks, and elite Whites in alliance, and the demographic facts are that Whites are a minority already in this country. Non-White births outpaced White births for the first time. It will only get worse here on out.
You can posture all you want, but numbers show that America is already dead. A South African genocide future at the worst, all gringos steadily annihilated by drip-drip-drip tribal raids, backed up by the State, or a general purging and Whites as say, a Black man in Mississippi in 1925 or a Jew in Kaiser’s Germany, at the best is what is in the cards. Likely somewhere between them.
This is reality. Even if we managed to stave off Amnesty this time (which is unlikely, the big money will force the House Republicans to cave), Amnesty is already baked into the cake with the ones here demanding it, and Whites in Amexica or North North Mexico will have to accept a third-class role as designated hate-symbols and live like it. Even all that money won’t keep the White elite from it, they are fools for thinking it.
America is dead, accept it. Reality moves onwards, regardless of desire.
Put a sock in your negativity.
The foreign-born Latino birth rate is crashing, and all native-born nonwhites (doesn’t matter what kind) have birth rates below white Americans.
Immigration is the only thing keeping them afloat.
The latest amnesty battle isn’t about sticking a knife into us. Rather, it’s an attempt to salvage the Democrat troglodyte coalition, which Gang of Eight members like Lindsay Graham are too stupid to realize. (Marco Rubio is a Trojan Horse: of course he’s looking out for Hispanics first. Don’t be ridiculous.)
Nah, whiskey’s just saying the truth bro.
All you bros getting mad about ‘pessimists’ don’t seem to understand how political power works. Unless there is an actual war there’s almost nothing meaningful you can do about it. You want to go down with ship? Fine, but realize the only meaningful way to do that is to speak publicly, which would mean the end of your career and a ticket to the social hinterlands.
Cost benefit there isn’t great. One might even say it would be PATHOLOGICALLY altruistic. But that remains you’re only realistic option of resistance. Optimism is fine, but you’re talking like we’re demoralizing the troops when we’ll never even have an army.
Please. Provide citations for your “reality.” Seventeen percent is not “filled.” You buy into the “historical inevitability” of leftists. Sixty-three (or 78) percent is not “a minority already in this country.”
“It will only get worse here on out.” Says who? Chuck Schumer? Jeb Bush?
Like I said, I have no use for cynics without the balls to fight for his birthright. Your instinct to roll over or flee is decidedly not what we need right now. I don’t give a fuck if we are whittled down to ten percent: a man with conviction creates his own majority.
Except we’re not ten percent. We’re closer to eighty. This typical defeatism-before-the-first-shot-is-fired, this stinkin’ thinkin’ is the product of leftist brainwashing, and as I’ve said above, once you give yourself over to that, it doesn’t matter what your ends are. You become a tool of the enemy, a useful idiot, an instrument directed towards their purposes.
Avaunt. CH says you’ll have a good time in Europe, and right now you’re stinking up the place.
Matt
I think whiskeysplace is correct…
Doesn’t mean this Jew (points thumb at his own manly chest) is going to take it lying down, when it comes to a brawl… but America, as we know it, is finished.
I think the best future to hope for, white-wise, is the aforementioned Balkanized breakup into (my Wilmot Robertson termed) Ethnostates.
You are choosing against white people, brother. That’s not just weird coming from you, that’s historically insane.
I have faith in my people. Also, all other things equal, I go with the odds. Kind of a no brainer.
The romanticism of the lost cause. That’s one reason why the South lost: they had a nostalgic alternative to winning. Burn your ships like Hector if that will cure your despair. All in.
Not sure if it’s historically insane… it might even be inevitable… at least until the Apocalypse.
CA is already minority White and majority Mexican. Future is hereW
In Texas, a number of years ago, 75% of kids under 18 were Mexican or Black (and mostly Mexican). America’s historic population does not exist, because it has not had kids. Over 50% of kids born in 2012 were non-White.
As ground zero, California (I am a native) shows how this works. Mexicans will happily impregnate four, five, six, seven times a little round barrel of a woman, so ugly and short you wonder how any man got on top of her to sire any kids, let alone five or six. But there they are all in tow. The woman looking like a walking barrel. Seriously. Meanwhile White women chase Alphas until they MAYBE have one designer eugenic yuppie baby. Her Mexican counterpart popped out six starting at age 15 or so. [When she was still shaped like a barrel.]
Like Stalin said, quantity has its own quality. In any political fight, Whites LOSE. ALL (like about 3/4) the young people are non-White. In a real, military fight, Whites also lose. Centralized military power, nukes, etc. make any secession a pipe dream. If it comes to that, DC will simply nuke out of existence any locality that leaves Amexica. Certainly I have no doubt the military will happily annihilate any and all resistance to Diverse Utopia.
I live in California. I’ve seen it go from paradise to basically Northern Tijuana, missing only the Donkey Shows. You are next. Don’t kid yourself. I don’t plan on sticking around and being herded into some camp. I am realistic. Whites are a race hurtling for extinction and false bravado and that sort of lunacy only makes that time come faster.
Centralized military power, nukes, etc. make any secession a pipe dream.
Not if the secessionists have a few nukes of their own… or other viable counter threat, of which there are several possibilities.
Rev. 20:9 – 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and surrounded the camp of the saints, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
The whites didn’t mysteriously disappear à la The Rapture, nor did they die off. They left your blue state paradise for Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, and Texas.
You look at demographics and pee your underoos. Resident supernatalist Zombie Shane looks at the same picture and gets to work. That’s the difference.
What is the point of your suicidal depression, anyway? What good are you doing by clucking like Henny Penny about the sky falling? You talk like a bitch. Yours is a different kind of white self-hatred than the left’s version, but a self-hatred all the same.
Matt
Whiskeysplace,
Some may call you defeatists but I think you are a realist.
things are bad and getting worse fast.
Whites are an endangered “species” and it is hard to imagine how this could change.
White liberals have caused something that is almost impossible to stop and even more impossible to reverse.
On top of this Obama is doing all he can to destroy the US economy by doing such things as raising the debt to unsustainable levels never seen in human history( among many other bad things for the USA )
the connection between the two?
the Cloward Piven strategy; create a crisis which will require drastic measures, then use the occasion to implement changes that in normal times would be impossible to impose.
Please. Provide citations for your “reality.” Seventeen percent is not “filled.”
True, but…
Alas, it only takes around 20% to 25% for a neighborhood to “turn”… as the parlance goes in the real estate game… and for white flight to begin in earnest… out of necessity, for one’s sanity… if not one’s life and limb.
There is nowhere for “white flight” to flee to, CH’s afternoon diversions notwithstanding. It’s stand your ground time, and fuck Trayvon.
Besides, my fathers built this country. I am doing my part. I’m not going anywhere.
I am interested to hear more about how fresh, don’t-give-a-shit Russians right off the boat are kicking the níggers out of their own ghettos in NYC, or even the beaner gangs claiming Compton.
What’s with all this tail-tucking and scurrying away? Go watch Gran Torino three times and a row, have a couple shots of rye, and let’s get to work.
Matt
Matt,
it does not matter if you kick out third worlders out of your neighborhood …
because the government keeps importing more of them everyday and they have more kids than whites
I fully agree the time has come where there’s, as Martha and her Vandellas so aptly sang, “nowhere to run to”.
I was just hammering home a point about how even a mere 17% is cause enough for alarm, not cavalier dismissal… especially since it’s 17% and growing… and thus far there ain’t enough don’t-give-a-shit Ivans piling out onto the docks of the Hudson.
But Matt, how many divisions do the BabyBoomers have? The SoshaCureity generation (I mean the Greatest Generation)? The SWPLs? Isn’t this the meaningful figure?
I think you fail to distinguish between the United States and California.
@whiskeysplace
You’re right on many levels, but America is not dead yet. True the Mexicans, blacks, and liberal whites are in cahoots and have been trying to seize complete control of this country in the last 40 years, but still the fight is not over. We must fight, and if we will fight we will win. We are right in our struggle as well as smarter than them, and we will win. But not if we give up and say America is dead so move on. This is defeatist speak which the liberals are well versed in. Defeatist speak is why America never wins wars any more.
Matt if you aren’t current or former military, you sound like someone the Marines could use. Rah!
@ Matthew King – Great writing and great points. I agree completely.
Addendum. Not the later ones on race.
Pussy.
You vaccilating fairy.
I’m a white anglo-saxon, conservative, 140+ I.Q. male, and I agree with Matthew King here. Read Ayn Rand to understand why the idea of “America” was so powerful, and why it should become powerful again.
All of Ayn Rand’s character’s were caricature Aryans in appearance and demeanor, and though she called race “mystical anti-individualist drivel,” or something along those lines, still was devoutly and hypocritically pro-Israel out of unconscious group loyalty to her Jewish ancestry.
Libertarianism has its perks but the system completely collapses in the face of group conflict dynamics. Maximizing individuality might make your free-markets hyper efficient, but your society will be completely defenseless against collusion by groups with strong ingroup-outgroup psychology. Not surprisingly, Jews make up a huge proportion of famous libertarian intellectuals (Murray Rothbard, Lew Rockwell, Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand..etc). Its a very appealing ideology to them as a group because it fundamentally dilutes their gentile competitors group cohesion and consciousness by making their members rabidly individualistic. Their ideology may be nothing more than a covert pro-Jewish strategy.
Its quite sad to see the 20-something White male cohort become so enamored with libertarianism, since this is the single group that most needs an ideology of strong group cohesion in their increasingly divided and multicultural homelands. Less Rand Paul, more Pat Buchanan.
Libertarianism couldn’t exist in a non-White country, but establishment libertarians are currently some of the most open-border supporters out there.
All seems to fit a theme.
excellent observations
All of Ayn Rand’s character’s were caricature Aryans in appearance and demeanor..
+11… I’ve always said this myself… nice to see I wasn’t alone in my impression.
.. and though she called race “mystical anti-individualist drivel,” or something along those lines, she was devoutly and hypocritically pro-Israel out of unconscious group loyalty to her Jewish ancestry.
Yeah, well… leopard’s spots, and all that.
“Not surprisingly, Jews make up a huge proportion of famous libertarian intellectuals (Murray Rothbard, Lew Rockwell, Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand..etc).”
Rockwell is Catholic. Neither Friedman, who advocated fiat debt-money central banking, nor Rand, whose Objectivist supplicants mongered stupid wars, were libertarian. A few well-known libertarians such as Walter Block or Peter Schiff are Jewish, but the movement’s origins and development are by far and away a White European/American Male phenomenon.
“Libertarianism couldn’t exist in a non-White country, but establishment libertarians are currently some of the most open-border supporters out there.”
Point acknowledged. But in a libertarian society ranchers, farmers, and other landowners along the borders would be free to arm themselves, to organize voluntarily, and to defend their property with lethal force. Moreover, no immigrant-attractants such as the various welfare entitlements would not exist. Nor would the instruments of global tyranny of which the Jews and their collaborators have availed themselves – fiat debt money, income and property taxation, government schooling, militarized police, gun control, and the various corporate monopolies enabled by state coercion.
Future inchoate
dreams resolved
tomorrow passing the time
Finally alone
streams evolved
berries and leeches and thyme
There was a River
south of here
Awesome…
“But I am American first. My ancestors and people like me built this country and bequeathed it to my generation. It was the first and only country built on an idea so that the cream of every people would be attracted to it: those with intelligence, balls, creativity, energy, courage — out of many, one. ”
+10
well said.
” We are not genetically determined, we are culturally and morally determined. You are both poison fruit from the same Frankfurt tree. ”
+100
[CH: Except that the statement is wrong, unless M. King would like to argue that genes are hogwash.]
I don’t think he meant that genes are unimportant. Clearly they are important, as we see this in the differences between races. However, America is a country based on a set of ideas, not a place for a race of people to restructure in their image. A homeland for the white race is not America The white race has Europe, and it is its true homeland. America is homeland to a set of ideas which transcends race, color, religion, or ethnicity. Those ideas are in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. As long as we stuck to those ideas we were protected. The moment we started to veer form those ideas we got unwanted immigration, feminism, homosexuality, terrorism, the welfare state, a bad economy, the destruction of the family, etc…….
The Founding Fathers did not intend any transcending of race, color, or religion, you fool.
They attempted to establish a Christian nation for white men free of the shackles of European monarchy and the downside the latter entailed in re individual pursuit of happiness in matters of worship and economics.
If they were alive today, you’d be screaming RAY-CISS!!! and FASHISSS!!! at the top of your lungs.
The constitution was established for “ourselves and our posterity”. That means white people.
@ Tony – Well put. Without the Counter-Enlighnment there would have been no problems.
We are not genetically determined. If we were, blacks in America would speak with clicks and buzzes rather than in Ebonics. Stalin would never be dictator because he was too short. Children of immigrants would have their parents’ accents.
Genes are limiters and influencers. They are not ultimately determinative of a man’s fate.
This is not even close to controversial. But sounding out the idols of pseudoscience is verboten because its positivists have so much invested in it as an epistemology. They dare not examine the edges of their methodology lest they throw their very identity into question. It is easier to shut one’s eyes and yell “hogwash” at the skeptics and apostates.
Look, we’re all truthtelling men here. We don’t have to counterbalance the lies of the left when we speak among each other. I am pro-white and pro-racist, but we don’t have to exercise solidarity in ideology when we talk shop with ourselves, afraid that our nuanced positions will be taken as sympathy for the left.
Matt
I’m forming a private military company to storm the shores of Somalia to set up a theonomic kingdom as a headquarters to spread the gospel worldwide by word or sword. Who’s with me?
Ah, The Man Who Would Be King, eh?
My kingdom is not of this earth.
But what the hey, private armies are the next decade’s private schools… so I’m in.
They both die at the end. SPOILER ALERT.
Yeah, but I’m a preterist.
Damn, you scared me for a second there… I was nearly out as soon as I was in.
I rather like the idea. Where do I sign up?
Will there be a coloured regiment?
wait a minute… you tryin to trick me into goin back to africa?
Thwackie, old man, I’ll fight shoulder-to-shoulder with you, any day…
But, yes, you’re going to have to stay there, once the fight is done.
No, once landed, we’re doing this Alexander the Great style. All your soldiers are belong to us (Christ).
Yes, but strictly segregated. Women will be nurses too.
I think about this a lot. And I also have pondered many of these points.
Much of what I have though is already written here, but I will add some things from my perspective.
Americans being a mix of European ancestries affects their disposition. I am one thing. I am a South Indian Brahmin and my ancestry has been exactly and only that for 1000 years at least. I am different from white Americans, not just because I am very racially different, but also because I am pure bred and inbred. There are some quintessentially American things that occur because white Americans are different from me. For example, Americans raise their kids with this idea of “you could be anything” when you grow up. They have their kid and tell them in total sincerity, “you could be president one day.” Your kid picks up a baseball glove or something when they are 4 and you feel like there is a chance that your kid could be great at it. American parents take their 4 yr olds to ballet lesson on Monday, art lesson on Tuesday, gymnastics on Wednesday in part because they don’t know what their kid can do. They don’t know what their kid can excel at.
I went to gifted math and science programs since middle school. There were many other Indian kids in these programs. One thing the white kids would talk about was how it was so annoying for them to have to take a different bus than their siblings who went to a different school because they were not also gifted in math and science. That’s the law of odds. But every single Indian kid I knew had siblings that went to the same school. That’s what it is to be deeply inbred. Whatever your sibling is, you will be the same. We know our children will not ever become great athletes or artists. We are born and we will be very good at math and science and academics. But it is very American to grow up and believe in your possibilities and in the opportunity to stake your fortune doing whatever comes to you as an individual. Americans need their wide genetic diversity to have that sense of possibility. When you are born, your parents don’t know what combination of traits you got.
And Europeans do not belong here physically just like I do not belong here physically. It’s ok, but it’s not ideal. I remember once in college I went to the carribean on spring break after being in college in the north east all winter. My white colleagues “pre-tanned”- a thing I had never conceived of. And they made sure to wear sunscreen. I never thought about any of this, so I went and basked in the sun from 9am to 4pm without any SPF for days and days straight. And you know what happened to me? Nothing. I tanned somewhat and not even to my full capacity. I certainly did not burn. My white colleagues, however, looked like a torch fell on them if they missed sunscreen anywhere. And apparently, human beings can turn lavender. Who knew?
Where you come from affects who you are. And people like me know it- people who are only from one place. Our loyalty will always be to that one place. Brazillians may come to America and feel no loyalty to anywhere in particular, but people like me- Indians, Koreans, Chinese- we know where we are from and we would largely leave this country out of simple convenience if things even started to go downhill consistently.
I ask you this- if a meteor was going to hit the earth and we could only save one region of the world with an atmospheric bubble, where would you put the bubble? Over America or over Europe? Where is your loyalty? Mine is not here.
I ask you this- if a meteor was going to hit the earth and we could only save one region of the world with an atmospheric bubble, where would you put the bubble? Over America or over Europe? Where is your loyalty? Mine is not here.
I love it when the “others” make our WN point for us.
No matter how successful or “Americanized” non-whites are or seem to be, they will NEVER be truly at one with us… best to separate and let each kind pursuit their respective cultural, political and, indeed, genetic destinies.
I love it when the “others” make our WN point for us.
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Yeah like talking about how great their native culture is, from the safety, security and prosperity of the good ol USA
VERY annoying.
“go tha fuck back to africa”; and take your red dots, curry, and monkey gods with you.
White guys are generally hotter than Indian guys. And black guys too for that matter. If not for these facts, my motivation for leaving would be considerably stronger if America started to get more unpleasant to live in somehow.
I saw that in the Marine Corps too. Women joined because that’s where the hot doodz are. I can’t wait until women are property again.
hell white women are way hotter than indian women…even some black women.notice that the hottest indian girls can pass for italian
Indeed. Why DONT you go back,Miss Science and Math?? I hear they had a nationwide blackout in dear old Inja. People be sellin theu kidneys for a six pack of Corona.Lepers and all that shit still going on. Yes go back and fix your ONn fucking country. Thats what all the pro-immigartion cocksuckers are all blubbering about:We need these smarties HERE. No we dont;these countries have a huge amount of work to do–why drain their so-called best and brightest(In reality,people like you just wanna get the fuck away from all the non-Brahmin Indian motherfuckers and live off what the white man has built)??
But north American whites are their own thing as they are a mix of different European ancestries and often a bit of native American too. If we all have to go home, I know where I will go. I know it to the street address. Where white americans would choose to go is a bit arbitrary in most cases.
And if we did all go home, you don’t have much grounds for kicking mestizos out of the southern half of this country.
In a way, European-Americans of mixed ethnic ancestries are even more European than the Europeans, as they represent a sort of Proto-European race before Europeans split up into the smaller nations.
This is an interesting perspective. As they are more genetically diverse, I suspect white americans are in some ways more capable than their European counterparts, who appear to have more specialized characters.
I work with a German company, and it is quite interesting to see how they can operate. They have forms for clients to fill out that are arcane and require 10 hours of detailed work. I find this fascinating because they live in a culture where they can simply expect their clients to put their heads to the grind for hours and hours and produce detailed complex work. Why? Because they are all German and they can expect this out of each other. We in the US have a hard time adapting their products because they don’t understand that we cannot expect all of our clients to work this diligently.
The southwest was largely empty until trains and powered irrigation came in the late 19th century. The only significant populations were in east Texas and along the California coast. Before the railroads, there were probably less than 50,000 people between Fort Worth and the California mountains. Not much reason to justify the millions from Oaxaca and Chiapas that live there now.
feministx over-generalizes and speaks for herself. I’m a 1st generation American, East Asian. Am I proud of my ethnic and racial heritage? Sure. As much as white Americans are proud of their European roots.
But in tribal nationality, I am an American citizen and patriot.
I’m an Army veteran who has served America and the American people honorably and to the best of my ability. I’ve given oaths of loyalty to this nation that I take seriously, more seriously I might add than many of my fellow – white – soldiers took them. When I became a soldier, General George Washington joined my lineage. The Founding Fathers are my ancestors. If it comes down to a Red Dawn scenario, I’m a Wolverine.
Nor am I alone. There are other Asian American Men like me. Veterans. Don’t think we haven’t noticed that we are more loyal to America and care more about the fate of America, especially the ideal America, than are many white Americans whose fathers built this country.
We want to contribute to a great America for our children so we hope the established caretakers among our countrymen correct course and get America right. But if the kind of surrender and retreat that Heartiste is proposing is the best whites can do, then maybe new blood is needed to lead America and make us as we should be.
We the “model minority” are ready to step up, take the reins, and make America great if whites no longer have the gumption to lead.
What type of unit were you with?
I am a white European (1st generation) and I served 3.5 years with the marine corps infantry, including two deployments to Afghanistan. In my experience, the combat units are White-over-represented, Black-underrepresented, Asian-underrepresented, Latino-about proportional.
It seems like the White guys were the ones who bought into patriotism and duty, as well as the Asians and Latinos who were there. Most blacks I knew in the military joined for the benefits and paycheck, hence why most of them went to non-combat technical jobs. In my first platoon, there was one black guy out of 35 marines, in my second, there were two. One of them was an infantryman from Georgia, very happy go-lucky, he was a good marine and kind of the stereotypical black guy from the south. The other guy was called Oreo because he acted white, had white interests, and was married to a white woman, but he was an engineer, not infantryman, so he doesn’t count as a combatant.
Anyways, my bad for the rant, but in the military it seems that Whites are the most patriotic.
Anyways, my bad for the rant, but in the military it seems that Whites are the most patriotic.
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You gotta be kiddin me?
You guys are also the quickest to sell secrets to the enemy, commit treason…
Ever notice how whenever a spy gets caught, or somebody leaks government secrets, its a white male?
Yeah, but what are invariably the last four letters of his name?
“…Ever notice how whenever a spy gets caught, or somebody leaks government secrets, its a white male?…”
Black men do the opposite; they hide secrets
example; Obama’s shady past
-ning? -wden? ssen? Ames?
I was talking about the BIG secrets… and besides, look at all the spying that went on, giving the keys to the kingdom back during the Cold War, by names we AREN’T privy to.
Maybe because white men tend to reach the top levels of the military/intelligence community due to high I.Q./good work ethic? I don’t know about spies man, I can only speak from personal experience as a grunt in the shithole.
Case in point: December 26, 2010. One of the days that’s burned into my mind. A marine gunnery sergeant, both legs blown off, we eventually put tourniquets and pressure dressings on both legs, checked for secondary wounds, and the corpsman put the IV line in (he lived). Coming back from the medevac site, the black marine from Georgia said jokingly “niggas gettin their legs blown of and sheet, Taliban win, we done man we done.” Sure he was joking, but the white/latino marines were the ones who got pissed, the black marine didn’t. Don’t get me wrong, he was a great guy, but I honestly have no idea why he was in the infantry.
BTW, that story you posted was from WW2, when the military was still segregated. Let me give you a word of advice: don’t tell a marine that the marine corps can go fuck itself, you may have a fight on your hands you can’t walk away from.
Most blacks I knew in the military joined for the benefits and paycheck, hence why most of them went to non-combat technical jobs.
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The Marine corpse can go eat a dick.
“Smith was one of thousands of African Americans who joined the Marine Corps during World War II and then learned they would be shipped off to a separate boot camp for blacks and serve in segregated support units commanded by white officers.”
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/military/story/2011-10-26/first-black-marines-honored/50945902/1
Texas
Touche’
I am one thing. I am a South Indian Brahmin and my ancestry has been exactly and only that for 1000 years at least.
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Just another STORY she made up to inflate her ego.
This bitch is mexican and she know it.
She may merely be Dravidian… she did say South Indian, after all.
I am plenty dravidian I would think based on how I look, which is cool. Built in SPF is kinda awesome.
That’s because caste intermarrying regulations get more or less strict over time in cycles. At some points, people will intermingle. Jews from England look different Jews from Iran for a reason too.
So… did they make you an honorary Brahmin, then? lulz
I bet in a former life you were Cleopatra… I notice when women speak of reincarnation, they never seem to have been just a regular handmaiden or water bearer.
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“So… did they make you an honorary Brahmin, then? ”
some centuries ago, Brahmins in my region may have accepted disciples who were not of Brahmin birth. They may also have taken non-brahmin concubines (though they have not in the last several hundred years). So, yes, they did make some people honorary Brahmins, which is why some of us are less caucasoid than others.
Reincarnation is not possible other than that your atoms will inevitably be recycled through the biosphere. Given the evidence we have of the world, no one has a former life or an after life. This is it.
Most women I have dated say exactly that; in a previous life they were a queen ( never a lowly villager’s wife )
Such “grandiosity” delusions used to be considered a psychological dysfunction
Now under the new leftist/feminist establishment
insanity is sanity,
up is down,
night is day
…
and they call themselves progressives?
we are regressing to medieval times, that is where we are “progressing to”
feministx : Let me explain this paradox in simple terms for you, and its not because of intermarriage.
Jews in Iran = Sephardi
Jews in England = Ashkenazic
Feministx, yep. And that is a big factor in how this is going to play out. There’s one thing nobody ever mentions about immigration. In the big wave that came to the U.S. between 1880-1920, half went home within ten years. Half! And more left between 1930-1940 during the depression. The only reason so many have stayed from this wave is government benefits. Most of them have no loyalty to this country at all and will go back if it gets tough. Aging and retiring boomers are drying up the benefit money. As soon as interest rates spike the whole thing will wreck. And immigrants will flee.
People seem really angry at me here for stating that my loyalties cannot be that strong to the US, but why should they? Indians have been here for about 3 decades in large numbers. We are barely part of the fabric of this country. When I was a kid, they told me how George Washington could not tell a lie about cutting down a cherry tree. I saw some school house rock cartoons about the bill of rights. Now I should adopt the founding fathers as my ancestors? (absurd).
I cannot belong fully in this country unless I have a child with someone who really does belong in this country. Then my future’s place would be in what this country stands for, wherever that country may move to.
Where is your loyalty? Mine is not here.
Which is why the solution is for people like you to GTFO, not people like me.
Meantime, we did the exact opposite and put your treacherous ilk in charge. Out of a misguided sense of noblesse oblige! But we should peaceably remove ourselves? Like fuck I will.
I too am pure bred. But I am of the breed that dominated the planet, not the one that swarms like writhing black worms in the hot places of the world, waiting for The White Man’s Burden to humanize them. My people did not invent the Anglosphere, but my cousins did, and my ancestors understood the value of adopting the superior culture, nostalgia be damned.
You can’t even get your gods straight.
Matt
I can only be what I am. I am not white. I am not of the stock that created the constitution or John Locke. You can get angry at me for being aware that the environment that I live in was not really created for me or for my temperament.
“But I am of the breed that dominated the planet, not the one that swarms like writhing black worms in the hot places of the world”
My kind does not dominate planets, and I get the impression that we really don’t care. My kind happens to be docile. I believe that the British once controlled the whole of India which then had a population of 400 million with a couple of thousand soldiers. How? Because we don’t even try to fight let alone conquer others.
But we do have something. After Christianity and Islam made it their first purpose to rid the world of idol worshippers (why I cannot know), we are the ones that are still here, and there are a billion of us. The others are gone from Egypt and Europe, but in India the idols are still there.
Hinduism is intricately linked with bloodlines, so there is no external conversion, but the other major religion from India, Bhuddism, is starting to do quite well in the world domination game. These days better than yours because it attracts the more desired followers- celebrities, SWPLs, people who will call themselves Bhuddist Episcopalians or Bhuddist Catholics.
And I have noticed that yoga classes are getting more and more orthodox (and yoga was a religious practice to begin with). In my perfectly mainstream gym, a few yoga teachers give 10 minute lectures about shiva or vegetarianism or sanskrit parables. It seems all the pretty girls are leaving your altar for mine with its talk of meditation and heart centers.
But Catholicism is growing quite nicely in Sub Saharan Africa I see.
We do not fight crusades or colonize or proselytize, but we are still here. And your people are coming to us.
I saw a documentary about India a couple weeks ago on PBS; most people in India do not have internal plumbing, they defecate just anywhere, the smell of shit is everywhere.
Again, this was in a PBS documentary.
I have been to India. The smell of shit isn’t everywhere. In fact, I can’t remember smelling shit there — except my own in the bathroom.
Not internal but indoor plumbing…
Catholicism isn’t doing so bad on the subcontinent either, brown sugar.
You make my point for me by confessing you are from a bovine people. Your passive feminine culture taken together with your passive feminine nature, of course you have no idea what I’m talking about.
“It seems all the pretty girls are leaving your altar…” because you saw it a couple times in your anecdotal experiences. Female solipsism, you never fail.
Anyway, you are trying to simultaneously be a nihilist and a Hindu spiritualist, identify yourself with a certain culture while not believing in a word of it. I know that sort of dipshit contradiction is popular among you cowpeople but it’s just the sort of thing that fucks the world up when we put your kind in charge.
I can only be what I am. I am not white.
You can’t be white, but you can be Christian, like millions of your fellow countrymen. Maybe then you will learn to live better in your adopted nation and this superior culture.
Matt
“Anyway, you are trying to simultaneously be a nihilist and a Hindu spiritualist, identify yourself with a certain culture while not believing in a word of it. ”
It’s common for people whose ethnic heritage and culture is tied with the religion. Many people call themselves Jewish atheists too. I am culturally Hindu. I cannot change what I came from and what I was raised with. I have no plans of putting up a Christmas tree. And I am agnostic.
“You can’t be white, but you can be Christian, like millions of your fellow countrymen. Maybe then you will learn to live better in your adopted nation and this superior culture.”
No one is requiring me to be a Christian to be in America. If they were, I would be leaving much faster. And white people are not going back to Europe. That is not a real thing that is going to happen.
But this is a real thing: this country is allowing in hundreds of thousands of more Hindus each year. Their descendants are unlikely to convert to Christianity. They will either stay Hindu or become non-believing.
I can be net tax paying, law abiding and seemingly assimilated, but I am what I was born to be. My kind has long been only interested in work as monks and yogis and such that withdraw from the world and meditate on eternal questions of human nature and the nature of the universe. Christians are different. They value a civic contract. Churches encourage charity and help for all kinds of people. Christianity is not an ethical system that supports only withdrawing into the self to stay immersed in contemplation.
We keep inviting more high caste Hindus here. My kind is now the highest earning and best educated minority in the country. The modern world is well suited to our cognitive skills, and we are likely to gain clout in America over time.
In time, we may alter the principles of this culture due to our different way of thinking. Haitians can come here and endager the country by parasitism. But my kind can come here and in a way threaten the country with a prospect of ideological and philosophical change that comes simply with intellectual leadership.
You have asked me to become Christian so I can fit into your “superior” culture. I am not able to do this. But your descendents may end up becoming something else so they fit into what my kind influences this culture into becoming.
[CH: Numbers matter. Since you are a secular member of a small minority in a country in which M. King is a member of a majority, it’s more likely your hypothetical kids will be subsumed into his borg rather than his kids subsumed into your borg.]
Ironically the Indo-European religion lives on in India, while we Whites have adopted a semitic religion.
It’s not unusual for an “outsider” to gain majority hold in another land… a prophet has no honor in his own country, so the saying goes… Buddhism struck large in China, Christ amongst Europeans
Oh great
That’s all we needed: a Druish Princess.
Funny, she doesn’t look Druish.
+1
Some of my best friends are Druish.
god I would love to tie you to the bed and then have nice normal PIV sex with you. no pain, don’t worry
“people like me- Indians, Koreans, Chinese- we know where we are from and we would largely leave this country out of simple convenience if things even started to go downhill consistently. … Where is your loyalty? Mine is not here.”
You over-generalize. Or maybe you’re just talking about women whose loyalty is naturally suspect. I’m an Asian American man and my loyalty is here.
Actually, I can believe that. South Asians are more similar to a lot of Jews in how many of us live and breathe a kind of clannishness. Both Jews and Hindus from regions with strict caste guidelines are raised with the moral value that their physiological selves have some theological significance.
Also, America is theoretically supposed to be a place where any background fits in, so we are raised to believe we all can fit in here equally. Certainly, I can fit in in America a lot more than I could ever fit in if I were raised in Slovakia or something.
Regarding differences in men and women in nationalistic loyalty, one would expect that women categorically feel less loyalty to any physical country than men. However, women may or may not be more loyal to the ideological rules they are expected to hold up. Women are obviously less likely to become renegades on their own volition.
The Chinese ARE the Jews of Asia.
Mark my words.
big noses cant play sports hairy as hell even the women greedy fo money mamas boy n overbearin bitchy motherss.ya indians n jews have q lot in commmon.
whts with indian women n feminism …..seriouslt the jews of the east…loud mouth princesses just want mo. women in india dont are exempt from payin taxes what more do u hoes want
Fuck off, whore. You don’t speak for anyone but yourself, you cumrag.
I ask you this- if a meteor was going to hit the earth and we could only save one region of the world with an atmospheric bubble, where would you put the bubble? Over America or over Europe? Where is your loyalty? Mine is not here.
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Fuck you then and the horse you rode in on. We don’t need hyphenated Americans. Polish Jewish ancestry. Proud 1st generation American, first in my heart always. As someone else said, the Founding Fathers are my adopted ancestors. No questioning where I’d put my bubble, so stop making racial excuses for your traitorous allegiances and get on out to the land YOU love.
What is “polish jewish” ancestry? You are half Polish and half Ashkenazi?
There is only a choice of where your loyalties can be if your genetic kinship can be stronger to a different area. I think there are more Ashkenazi in the US than anywhere else in the world, so whether you adopt other people as your ancestors or not, there is no rift between ideological loyalty and loyalty by lineage for you.
If you are really by some miracle a 25 yr old 1st generation “polish jewish” person, what else could vie for your chief loyalty? Maybe Israel if you were religious. Polish jewish people are sometimes mainly European in descent and sometimes mainly middle eastern. They are the product of being kicked out of one European country after another before most of them were killed while their fellow Poles supposedly did little to help them. Hence, why would you feel loyalty to Poland? That would be strange. Out of all western nations, the US probably has the least discriminatory history towards Jews. If you are separately Polish and Jewish, then where but the US do Polish and Jewish people actually exist?
All the more reason to be pro-American, I think. Last pogrom was 100 years ago in the South. Well, there was that bit in Crown Heights, but we took care of that, and the rest of New York City benefited.
I never got why so many Jews love immigration so much. This country kicks ass, why spoil it?
My dad is ashkenazi, but is himself the product of a mixed marriage between ashkenazi and ethnic Pole. My mother is ethnic Polish slav for like 100 generations (hyperbole, no doubt). I am not religious, although I am very comfortable around Israelis culturally, since my parents lived there for 15 years. Weirdly, you could call me more Israeli than American Jewish, since I have zero ties to the “ashkenazi” Jewish community here in America, other than a few friends of the family my parents knew in Israel before moving here. I don’t even speak Hebrew. Why would I? On my mother’s side, it’s all Poles all the way back forever, all of whom who are alive still live in Poland.
Doesn’t matter, I would watch Israel or Poland, where my mother’s family still resides, burn to the ground if it meant saving my real country, America.
Just because you’re obsessed with bloodlines doesn’t mean everyone is. Some people have higher allegiances than tribalism. Like the Japanese soldiers who volunteered for WWII out of the internment camps. Just because tribalism is a powerful and natural human force doesn’t mean that individuals can’t rise above it.
Oh and by the way, given the snippet I read of your blog, it seems like you’re trying to justify your selfishness and egocentric attitude in a lot of other ways besides “screw the country that gives me wealth, opportunity and freedom.” Maybe the problem is you.
Shut up
Thank you. This is what Matt cannot understand. He like so many other American Supremacists is a liberal at heart and believes that ideologies (“The Proposition Nation”) are what rule the Earth, that we are on an endless, upward cycle of achievement and refinement (aka “Progress”). If we just work harder, try harder, the cream will rise to the top and all will be well for humankind. He hates Jim Crow, but will never even wrap his mind around the fact that India has over 30,000 endogamous groups–groups that cannot–will not–breed with each other.
“This is what Matt cannot understand. He like so many other American Supremacists is a liberal at heart and believes that ideologies (“The Proposition Nation”) are what rule the Earth, that we are on an endless, upward cycle of achievement and refinement (aka “Progress”).”
Correct.
The Founding Fathers were a very early version of the libtards we have plaguing the country today.
Dood,
You’re taking the “white flight” notion to unprecedented proportions. Breathe deep and try to acclimate yourself to the idea that globalization and the “invading horde” will follow where ever you go. I think if you do go B2E, you will slowly find yourself becoming increasingly homesick.
On a separate note, I totally agree with the abundance hot European women assertion. There are 10s EVERYWHERE.
Your brother in arms.
JH
We are still 3/4 here. This is all paranoia over extrapolated trajectories, which can be reversed through simple politics. If only we had — and when we have — a party that consciously appeals to whites.
As the great Steve Sailer said in passing last year: “[W]hite Americans in the Obama Age are slowly, quietly getting a little tired of blacks.” “Quietly” being the operative word. We don’t go in for histrionics over trivialities. We bide our time like serial killers and then methodically murder like serial killers.
Do they not teach history anymore? Even blacks should get their heads out of Harriet Tubman month and inventing the peanut and study the consequences of white ire.
Yes, the Tom the Democrat and Jason Alfie factor is there, these seeming self-hating traitors. But just like the single women factor, I think their political pose is unsustainable and awkward, and they want to be free of the lie. The white leftists who aren’t psychologically damaged are more open minded than their nominal politics indicates. I don’t know any white man of any station who will not privately admit to the limits of race-hustling multiculti PCism. They’re just a little addled and a lot scared.
The women too. Take the Life of Julia, insert a man into the narrative, and she becomes the most rabid rightwinger, now that she knows she has a daddy to replace daddy government. They proceed from their fears, and men neutralize fears.
We just need somebody with a backbone to say n!gger on TV who isn’t an apologetic Obama-voting fatcunt sellout like Paula Deen. “Yes, I said n!gger 30 years ago. Yes, I am saying it now. And?”
I nominate Adam Carolla or Mark Steyn. They’ve already been swarmed by the PC nigglers and beat them back handily. Nobody is going to fuck with them again, because the haters know they can’t win against someone who has the courage and the wherewithal to call their bluff.
Matt
“We are still 3/4 here. This is all paranoia over extrapolated trajectories, which can be reversed through simple politics.”
You could be 99% and still lose. If the 99% is over 40 and the 1% is under 20 you have lost. Fertility matters. Your politics are going to change ever so gradually. The Elite will explain that spending money on old white people (greedy lazy baby boomers/evil unions, etc.) is wrong and spending money on young brown people (the New Americans, Our Future Voters) is right. Your air supply will be gradually cut off, starting with the oldest ones. You don’t understand. The New Americans don’t have to do anything but breathe and breed. No revolt required–until a little push is all it takes to topple it. What do you think happened ot South Africa? To Haiti? You think like the whtie folks that were lured back to Haiti and then slaughtered. You think like the increasingly impoverished South Africans who live in their squatter camps, waiting for the day they will be finally appreciated by the black masses. There no natural “superiority” if you don’t reproduce.
Not enough Lebensraum in a muzzified Europe…
I’d say Russia/Siberia, but it seems like a long walk when we’ve got that big empty Canada right above us.
Anyway, might be best to stay put on this side of the pond and wait for the Balkanized break up of the US into neo-Europe type of borders and the founding of new nations… at least one of which should become a white homeland… if not de iure at first, at least de facto… with most of the population having hindsight sense that that whole “melting pot/all men are equal” canard is not something worthy of resuscitation.
Siberia is also unlivable because of the mosquito problems
I’ll pack a case of those tin bucket citron candles.
In the end, there can be no running. There are not many places left. You must stand and fight, or run and live the life of a hopefully wealthy nomad.
I don’t want this country and it’s weapons to be left in the hands of leftists and savages.
Itd be much easier to purge the parasites via mass deportation then for a massive white exodus to occur.
We never seem to have the stones to “do the necessary” in re that purging business.
Is Idi Amin still looking for a job?
A job that the white man won’t do? LLOZOZLZLZOZLZLZLZLZLOZOZLZL
Actually, it’s going pretty well. According to the CDC’s 2011 birth stats, births to foreign-born Mexican women in the U.S. are down 31% since 2006, and those to Central and South American women are down 21% since 2007. White Americans’ TFRs are above Puerto Ricans and Cubans, both stateside and islandside.
Puerto Rico is actually imploding right now: its economy is in a Greece-like endless contraction and is facing a pension crisis. It’s a nice laboratory as to what happens to a Latin American country that has free emigration to the U.S.
Puerto Rico is a worthless place and always has been. Puerto Ricans are one step above niggers. They’re the worst of the god awful Caribbean-Spanish race simply because they can come here whenever they please and receive welfare.
Most impoverished city in America? Reading PA. Why? Majority PR population. Similar situation here in Allentown.
Personally, I think its a race for the right side of the bell curve to invent space travel and leave, before they are snuffed out by the left side of the curve
+1… whites aren’t truly happy… nor it seems, genetically viable for long… when there are no frontiers to pursue.
whites aren’t truly happy… nor it seems, genetically viable for long… when there are no frontiers to pursue
Yup, the long and short.
Matt Damon will go up to your space planet and take your nice things. On a completely unrelated note, anyone who sees Elysium is a faggot.
On a completely unrelated note, anyone who sees Elysium is a faggot.
I might have to walk back on this one. Didn’t realize it was the district 9 guy and it might actually end up being an anti-immigration flick. Still, Fuck Matt Damon.
Matt Damon
I’ve recently come to the revelation that man’s number one goal should be to get the fuck out of here. It’s the only way we’ll survive, while it may be several thousands of years before we literally HAVE to leave we should make it a long distance priority number 1.
Wouldn’t advise bothering with the U.K. Everywhere here seems to be following the worst of the American traits, and some are even encouraged.
Specially not for the women either, horrible, trashy fat sluts with trampy tattoos of the names of their exes allover them, horrible. Not to mention the muslims and other immigrants, there’s many areas in my cities that are “No go” areas, as it is a “city of sanctuary”. One entire sector is composed exclusively of Somalians. We have a large black “gangsta” culture in a lot of areas too. Choose somewhere more friendly heh. As a stubborn Englishman it’s a tough prospect to consider abandoning my home, but if I did I’d move somewhere Nordic.
“No go” areas for White British I meant.
“… Where is your loyalty? Mine is not here….”
Tens of millions of immigrants think like you.
and then they wonder why we see them as ” the other”
The above comment was a reply to Feministx,
I don’t know why it is posted down here 45 minutes after I tried to post it…
wordpress does weird things to my comments…
Ridiculous post. Historically unaware, ludicrous from a practical point of view.
Yup, a rare whiff. Box it up with that one about the thwacking noises created by some black dude’s junk.
Heh, heh… thwack’ing noises are created here daily by some black dude’s junk thinking.
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I just hope that new thwacking technology makes us energy independent, not retarded.
I’m a first generation American of Polish descent. I’m making plans to return to Poland in a year. Northern California is a cultural wasteland for me. As far as multiculturalism goes it’s probably the best possible scenario, yet this still means that Indians and East Asians are taking over high-tech jobs, while Mexican illegals cook their meals and bus tables in downtown Palo Alto. I’ll take a lower standard of material living to be among family, friends, people of my own ethnicity, tradition and beautiful, feminine women.
I don’t foresee a mass exodus back to Europe (perhaps just from one state to another), but for first generation Americans who know their ancestral language, the departure will be much more appealing. As terrible as Communism was, the one advantage Poland has now is that it’s not a socialist, welfare state like Western European countries are. It can’t afford it. This means that immigration from Africa and the Middle East is minimal. A healthy distrust of the “other” (derisively called racism) keeps out the problems we see in “urban” America. They had to ban bananas at some soccer stadiums since fans were throwing them at certain visiting players. I think this is in poor taste, but if this undercurrent is what it takes to keep Poland from becoming like BRA as described in SBPDL, so be it.
So you actually like fans throwing bananas at Black football players?
What a lot Nordicists like you don’t understand it that, you can be proud of your heritage,race,ethnicity etc without putting other people down.
Dude! Reading comp!
I think this is in poor taste…
@ Wiz – Exactly! These are weak, weak people, like all racists.
Yet another Beevis who can’t read… sigh.
The man stated clearly: “I think this is in poor taste…”
Roosh loves Poland man, and he’s somewhat of a connosseeuuurr
Europe is the smallest continent. Why is European man expected to stagnate and not grow? How can we survive as a people without more living space? That’s why we colonized the world in the first place.
Americans are whining bitches.
Why would we want them here?
[CH: Think of the money you’ll make selling us pastries and sausage!]
Approx 60% of the world’s population are Asian, 12% per cent are black.
Now really, dear hbders, who is a bigger threat to our white children? Go to Tornoto to see a premonition of what America will look like after whites lose a race war..
In the U.S., it’s generally white Republicans who have private firearms.
The same white republicans with firearms will be living in trailer parks wondering why their guns can’t the hired in any job worth doing.
The white American working-class male was once useful to the American economy. Not anymore. They only experince power in computer games and porn.
Working-class/college-educated men are economically useless in the US – why would Europe want something it already has too much of?
American women are the worst in the world, so I didn’t see what Europe would gain by importing them eother.
Just because the capitalist robber barons don’t want us doesn’t mean we’re useless.
I stated clearly: “The white American working-class male was once useful to the American economy”. You are of course free to start a new economy where male labour is highly valued. Good luck with it.
The same white republicans with firearms will be living in trailer parks wondering why their guns can’t the hired in any job worth doing.
Stop believing European TV propaganda for one, then think about that statement above. Would that not make them dangerous? You have no idea of the firepower in the hands of the common man. Collections of over 100 firearms is not uncommon in gun friendly states. America is doing very well still, in terms of industry. The Democrats may have written the white working man off, but he is by no means economically useless. He remains the backbone of the economy and will remain so. I would say the man with a college degree and no skills is in tougher shape, especially in Europe.
Interesting fact: the rayciss Japs have all their North American automobile production in Dumb Radnack Country, while General Tso’s Motors plans to expand in China. Nobody likes American workers, but they love Jap cars. lozlzozlzolzz
The biggest threat to white children are the anti-whites currently in power in white countries.
Thank you.
This is why Brevik did what he did… and why the Cathedral has to dismiss such things as “terrorism” and/or the works of the “insane”.
When in fact, it’s soldiering… in a war that hasn’t been officially declared…
… yet.
Dregs Elliot– Always ready to masturbate at the thought of wanton murder with a White Supremacist rationalization. Go, dregs, Go!
Your intellect has been found wanton.
Stating a fact isn’t celebrating a fact…
You Cathedral fairy.
The war was declared a long time ago.
http://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/judea_declares_war_on_germany.jpg
Touche’
After we lose a race war?
Now that’s very funny.
Let’s have it.
You’re right.Its much better to import brown people who hate you and with no affinity whatsoever for your culture to prop up your dying cultures.
Look at how Americans are viewed by Europeans. Do you see afininty there? People don’t like white Americans just because they are white. Maybe in Britain, yes, but who wants to live there? American culture is almost as worthless as muslim culture. I say ‘no thank you’ to each!
McDonald’s isn’t American culture, you nimrod.
I lived in Germany for 23 years. Americans are generally well regarded, even if the object of envy. Everywhere they’ve left, the locals wish they would come back. Me thinks you have met too few Americans outside of the military if at all. They always do well with the local women.
You have us there by the hundreds of thousands, actually. Defending you since you sold your manhoods cheap fifty years ago. Since you traded your arms for state medicine and welfare checks and unassimilable Muslim immigration. Can’t even take care of a little pissant conflict like Bosnia or Kosovo inside your own continent without coming to us on your knees.
You understand my countrymen through the filters that your unelected governing class allows you to get all your information. You foreign cunt. Get out of my face.
Same with CH and his queer, self-debasing, anti-American sarcasm, bowing and scraping like a supplicant to Eurotrash. Yes, there are imperfections in my culture. You can mistake them for the whole of my culture, or you can understand that they are the cost of liberty at the margins, margins which our lefty propaganda class like to giggle about so that they might more easily tear down the foundations that make liberty possible. CH joins them for a tawdry hyuk-hyuk on the one hand while complaining about the demise of freedom on the other.
Then you both fantasize about a Eutopia where men don’t have to earn their liberties. Which is actually an end-times shithole abandoned by men centuries ago, now crawling with invited desert detritus you can’t keep from raping and mangling your women.
Matt
jesus christ, man! i’ve never seen you this worked up before.
A man who feels there’s something worth fighting for… and can eloquently and devastatingly get his point across on the issue… is fascinating, isn’t he?
Greg, do you get a gag reflex when you service Matt?
Just wondering.
You really ought to stop projecting your homoerotic proclivities… especially since I have the good manners never to bring up yours and yeahokcool and that beaner’s with the stupid cap for Ya.
Of course, seeing as how at least two of you are sock-puppets, I guess it falls under the category of autoeroticism.
You sock fairy.
greg, i invite you to please bring up whatever you like. i will rebut your assertions and further make you look like the fool you are. i will tool you on the internet, bitch.
for instance, if you were to go back and look, you would see that i’ve said on probably 5 prior occasions that i don’t give a shit about yareally or ch. they are both smart guys with a lot to contribute, sure, but so is matt on a number of subjects. i’m no respecter of persons, bro (i’m speaking your language now)! i recognize talent and i commend talent.
you, however, are a talentless hack. that’s the other side of commendation of talent: condemnation of hacks. i take that back. you’re quite talented at making terrible puns. i commend your ability to say unfunny things.
What again? U mad, brah?
You’re a legend in your own mind (and those of the sock puppies) in re any cogent rebuttals or making me look like a fool that you imagine yourself to have done.
Your retorts are style-less and your language mundane, when not outright inane. “Bitch” indeed… and that, from the safety of your keyboard. lulz
And my puns are superb.
He sounds hysterical.
Literally.
Yeah, that was more my thought than, as Greg predictably suggested, awe-inspiring. Smoke some weed, bro!
My “fascinating” remark was a barb at your “jesus christ man!”
Not surprising that you and the rest of the South Park sockpuppy crew missed the nuance there.
oh, greg, you’re ever so droll. trust me, babe: nothing you say is hard for me to grasp… but it is terribly boring so you’ll have to forgive me for trying to liven things up a bit.
As the old maxim goes, a bored person is a boring person.
But at least some of my vocabulary is starting to rub off… droll, indeed.
Now who’s “servicing” who?
You two fairies — everything is an analogue to gay sex in your minds.
Hmm.
Now, I do understand CH’s looking over at Europe. The best country to live in would probably be a hypothetical country with American men and (continental) European women.
Well said. Europeans are ultimately gentrified serfs. They chafe at that label, but they are too clubby politically and the people instinctively look to the state out of long, culturally ingrained habit.
“Since you traded your arms for state medicine and welfare checks and unassimilable Muslim immigration. Can’t even take care of a little pissant conflict like Bosnia or Kosovo inside your own continent without coming to us on your knees.”
Good to know what Mathew truly think of us.
Western Europe “traded” it’s weapons because we knew you’ll stay in Europe – cold war or not. So if you’re there already let’s make some use of your troops. Besides the armies of the EU are not mached by any state in region far and wide except Russia, but even if Russia moves it’s massive armies inside Belarus(and /or Ukraine – which would be harder to do), we could get prepeared for it without you.
Also we’re nuclear armed (counting American nukes in EU possesion also).
It’s not enough to beat Russia, but it is a detterance factor – serious one that stops any Russian imperialistic aspirations.
That WEU was not capable of handling pissant conflicts was somehow true, but not for lack of capability, but rather for lack of will. As i said YOU were there, and always ready to jump in to the fray to flex your muscles, on such pissant conflicts until pissant Iraq and pissant Afghanistan came up. Than Europe had to engage in Africa on it’s own; Lybia was an example of how Europe couldn’t handled it, and only A YEAR AFTER Mali was an example of how Europe CAN handle it.
“Which is actually an end-times shithole abandoned by men centuries ago, now crawling with invited desert detritus you can’t keep from raping and mangling your women.”
Not less than USA.
Also you’re forgeting that EU still has greater GDP than you do.
+ You’re really histerical calling us a shithole, so let us all just dissmis it.
But overall EU and US must keep together along with other Anglo states over the world (Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and Afrikaaners). Though there are differences and pissidness from both sides of Atlantic, who can you count on when things get really fucked?
You proved to be our straw of salvation (II.WW) – though you didn’t saved us much from III. Reich as from Commies after them.
If some simillar shit happens in America i’m seriously not sure wheather EU would go there to fight for you, or not.
But i suspect that we would be divided 50 – 50 over to go or not to go, with Britain leading in the camp of those pro action, and France leading those against any interference. Germany probably neutral and waiting to see the situation develop.
Remember; in WWII France, Poland and Balkans fell and you hardly even blinked. And not only that, you waited till 1944 to make the Normandy invasion, and wouldn’t do it even than if Russians haven’t pressed you.
And by that all i want to say is that you fared carefully and that is what EU would do if roles were reversed. Though there is a factor that would tip the balance in favour of “pro action” camp – American nuclear weapons that might fall into wrong hands.
P.S.
My brother you hurt me quite with this post.
Well-said, more’s the pity.
In any sort of even-up “fair” fight (meaning, equal numbers and weaponry), the US has very little to pound their “greatest generation” chest about.
And since then, well… laughable… barefoot Cholly and rag-tag Abdul, with their AK-47s and the will to use them, have proved more than a match.
The present United States has done and does many degraded things, but I am very doubtful we have delegated any of our nukes to the European Union.
And European “lack of will” doesn’t keep British PMs and French Presidaunts from wailing for America to lead the interventions they only tag along for. As for the EU mustering up a “fight” to help the USA? Unbelievable. Remember, the aircraft carrier Charles De Gaulle lost its rudder at sea.
Alex, your intentions may be good but you are vastly overrating both the mettle of the European nations and the capabilities of their respective, overpriced but understrength, gendarmeries.
>Once you traded your arms for state medicine and welfare checks
It would be nice if you proved mass gun ownership prevented tyranny. Currently the Egyptians are showing more balls than you lot, and with far fewer firearms.
>unassimilable Muslim immigration.
Which will only last as long as the welfare checks.
Can’t even take care of a little pissant conflict like Bosnia or Kosovo inside your own continent without coming to us on your knees.
> You forgot Croatia. We were ignoring _the Balkans_ nicely. Thanks for supporting the Muslims against the Christians, BTW.
>You understand my countrymen through the filters that your unelected governing class allows you to get all your information.
SBPDL? Fred Reed? Remus? CH?
>Which is actually an end-times shithole abandoned by men centuries ago, now crawling with invited desert detritus you can’t keep from raping and mangling your women.
That’s not a nice thing to say about YKW.
Where are you from Arsene?
As an American, it is a badge to wear, but remember, Washington beat Cornwallis’s ass.
europeans make less money but are geneally more happier than you guys
i prefer an ‘enjoy the decline’ approach, collapse this beast at the very least before we give up. i will probably die furious, still in this country, wishing for more freedom from pervasive leftism, but i don’t see a lot of better options.
maybe some kind of secession. barring that maybe seasteading. long long shot.
i don’t know where it is above but some moron claiming slavery built the states, slavery is economic idiocy. slave productivity is shitty. had they paid people they’d have outstripped whatever they did by whip, no question. the productivity of profit over the productivity to do enough just to stay alive. slavery crippled this country, and the civil war to destroy it even more so. dumbasses. anything to tear down the last best hope of humanity.
“i don’t know where it is above but some moron claiming slavery built the states, slavery is economic idiocy. slave productivity is shitty. ”
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Spoken like a man who has never dug a foundation, a well, or a supply line by hand.
(((shakin my head)))
White people dragged us over here in chains because all the other workers were dying from MALARIA, smallpox, and a bunch of other diseases.
You needed black guys, big strong negro bucks, why don’t you just admit it?
There were no bulldozers and backhoes back then. You wanna drain a swamp? You wanna build a canal?
Before you could do ANYTHING, you needed a bunch of spades carrying spades.
What country you from?
They speak English?
Don’t overplay your hand now, John Henry.
The Germans outworked both you fellows and the Irish by a factor of two to one, according to a maxim of the time, which went (if memory serves):
“To get an Irish or a black to work, you need to hit him with a stick… or to get a German to stop working.”
Being descended from both Irish and Germans, I don’t know whether to be insulted or laugh.
I’m pretty sure that as many or more Irish than blacks and Chinese were the cheap labor back then.
I watch a LOT ( have done so for decades ) of documentary on PBS and that is what they say.
and PBS is definitely not a right wing source of information.
PBS is very much pro-immigration, pro-illegals, pro-gay, pro-feminism or in short ; anti white male,
they would have no reason to lie about the Irish being victimized more by white males
How much suntan lotion did the Germans and Irish bring over with them?
The only reason all you pale skinned Europeans had jobs in New England textile factories is because of black people toiling sun up to sun down in 100+ degree heat 6 days a week.
Sugar cane too.
The white population of this country grew because slave labor produced paying jobs for them.
You got off the boat all pale and skinny and there was a job here waiting for you.
You’re welcome.
Fractured Fairy Tales was funny enough, in its day.
But your Fractured Fairy Tale History cribbles risibility.
Here is an excerpt from something I found at the examiner
“… Only in recent years have historians recognized the major contribution of the Irish to the early development of North America’s railroad system. No more spectacular example can be found than the construction of the Western & Atlantic Railroad. In its day, the W & A was the engineering wonder of the world. In the 21st century, it is one of the busiest railroad routes in the world.
[…]Chronic labor shortages solved by the Irish
The state’s leaders had originally planned to build its railroads with slave labor. This scheme did not work out. Several long railroads were under construction simultaneously in the state. Planters did not want to lease their field laborers during the growing season. Often by the time that farm hands had learned the skills necessary for precisely building railroad grades, they would be called back to the plantation….”
read the whole thing at,
http://www.examiner.com/article/irish-immigrants-built-this-engineering-wonder-of-the-world
Why bother with the references and facts?
Two months and nine threads from now, thwackie ol’ boy and his coterie will only be sputtering the same claptrap… we’ve been hearing now for well over a year.
As a European dissident and longtime friend of the USA, I can only say that this idea would have been stupid, even if America’s troubles didn’t stem from WHITE (yes, W H I T E, not the non-white races that you are so fond of blaming for your troubles) Americans going to study in Germany in the 19th century, and bringing the German counter-Enlightnment ideas back with them. But they did (see for instance “Liberal Fascism” by Jonah Goldberg), and so this idea is beyond pathetic.
There is no escaping fighting the war of philosophical ideas.
Interesting point. The blogger here thinks he will be be welcome in Europe because of his nice skin colour and good genes. Dream on!
I always find it strange that so many who speak louldy of White or Black or X power, have achieved so little of value in their own life
[CH: I banged your mom. Doesn’t that count for something?]
Hey, twat. We will take this culture and all its imperfections over your little brother envy, second-world hospitals, socialist-nihilist politics, burning banlieues, disarmed and castrated population, 15-hour-workweek welfare mentality, and broad-daylight street beheadings. You fags couldn’t deal with Germany (twice) or Russia without us bailing you out (while manhandling the batshit crazy Nips at the same time). So you do the next best thing: flounce around declaring your superiority despite us making you our bitch.
CH was just spitballing. But apparently it flushed the chumps out.
How can one even tell who is straight over there? Your men all talk and act like you regularly take it up the ass, literally, as well as in the realpolitik sense. You eurofairy.
The point of the article is about how Americans might need to go to Europe.
But okay you hate Europeans too.
Matt,
try watching a John Wayne movie translated to French
It is revolting what the French accent can do
England always was based on a type of fagdom.
Haha – nice Archie reference!!!
Don’t forget all the 30 year old students and the 50 year old retirees over there.
“Your men all talk and act like you regularly take it up the ass, ” Is that the voice of experience Matt Peenking? YOu know how to pick them out for your closet “manly purpose.” You sound like such a closet case. Kisses!!
Well, Matt IS a Catholic after all….I am sure he does indeed have some experience.
You are a good example why the US are so fucked up…being a pussified wimp as you wrongly and generally accuse europeans to be is a bad thing. Shutting off all reason and only dreaming of war and weapons and generally barking at everyone who doesnt immediately point a gun at others at the slightest provocation is equally stupid. You should watch less Hollywood movies displaying americans saving the world.
I have yet to meet a single Brit that is jealous of anything the US has
our healthcare service may not be perfect but it is free at the point of delivery. Disarmed, like so many Americans you are displaying your ignorance on this point. Large numbers of us hold firearms licences and the fact that hand guns are officially illegal does not deter plenty of us from owning them. Forty Two hours is the average working week although most of us have more than one job or income stream. UK net immigration is at two percent, what is yours currently?. You have way more faggots and much greater acceptance thereof over there than you will ever find here. We have a much lower percentage unemployment, single parenthood, divorce rates. Our head of state is non-political and serves as a democratic guarentor, where’s that bloke that’s in charge of you from again?, is he doing a good job for you of looking out for your interests?. Fags, from a member of a nation where they wear body armour and helmets to play a fairy version of rugby and what you call an after match riot, we call a Saturday night. Terrorism is nothing unusual to us we with stood bombings that were beyond your worse nightmares and anything than the IRA that you used to find so romantic and bankroll could produce, and no the irony of Boston with Its proud Irish heritage was not lost on us.
Nineteen Seventeen, three years late after the UK Commonwealth had held a vastly numerically, and technologically superior German Army at bay in France and Belgium and the conflicts outcome was certain.
Nineteen Forty Two, three years late once again after a small British Expeditionary Force from an Army still depleted form the last conflict fought a rear guard action due to the French army folding in the field. The Royal Air Force and Navy foiled German invasion plans without any assistance from the US. Only after the Russians had knocked the fight out of the German army and it was clear which way things were going did the US join the war. Are you seriously suggesting that a campaign of carpet bombing and subsequent nuking can be termed as manhandling?.
Korea, A single battalion of Royal Gloucester’s held a combined Chinese/Korean army (estimated to be above one million in number)human wave assault while the UN police force including the US fell back in shit order.
The UK did not fight in Vietnam but if we had done perhapsthings might have turned out differently
With the exception of some US elite forces most of your military would struggle to pass Royal Navy/Air Force induction let alone the twenty week basic course of the British Army Training Regiment. Eight weeks to become a US Marine, thirty weeks that makes the Foreign Legion look like a teddy bears picnic to become a Royal Marine Commando. The Parachute Regiment (similar role to US Airborne) does not even consider a battle to be fight unless its members are cut off, surrounded, outnumbered, low on supplies, and sleep deprived to the point of madness. As for the SAS/SBS ask one of your Rangers, Green Beret’s, or Navy Seals for an opinion. I will grant you that you have fiscally driven numerical, and technological superiority but in terms of calibre of the individual the UK armed forces are several leagues above that of the US.
Regularly take it up the ass, if you want to know what it feels like to be fucked step ashore in Plymouth or Portsmouth on a Friday night and say all this out loud.
I am not in the habit of making insults, but if I was in this case it would probably go along the lines of stupid/ignorant/arrogant/dumbfuck American cunt that couldn’t piss his way out of a paper bag.
“You fags couldn’t deal with Germany (twice) or Russia without us bailing you out (while manhandling the batshit crazy Nips at the same time). So you do the next best thing: flounce around declaring your superiority despite us making you our bitch.”
HAHAH
hahahah
Don’t flatter yourself overly Matthew, 80% of Wermacht was as a matter of fact annihilated on the steppes of Russia. And Japan was defeated with roughly 10 – 15% of your military strenght,
also: you dropped the bomb and they surrenderd when your capabilities (well maybe more your resolve than capabilities, but shit stays)would really be coming to a test.
But this part is really hillarious:
“You fags couldn’t deal with Germany…”
I’m glad to inform you that this “You” from 1951 onwards, incorporates Germany as well.
USA is a world superpower, i’ll give you that.
Aaaaand Europe does sometimes(or more than just sometimes) seems like your bitch.
Yet if we’re to be Russia’s bitch one day – you will be begging us. Not the other way around.
You are a superpower but don’t overstrech it. You’re not GOD.
Fare well my American brother.
Right, this blogger has no idea that “It would take a lot of convincing to get Europeans to agree to allow mass white American immigration.” I would tell him that, if only this American nitwit could read.
How much convincing did it take before the Europeans got flooded by Muslims, Africans, Asians, and other assorted miscreants ?
Convincing?
None of us ( Canadians, Americans, French, British, Australians etc etc ) were ever asked if we wanted to be replaced by millions of third worlder immigrants
we never agreed to that, we were never asked, we never voted on that, it was imposed on us by a tiny handful of people we call white liberal “elite”
I call them traitors
Canadian: I understand, I was speaking in the context of if Americans wanted to emigrate to Europe in large numbers. How would they stop them ? They cant even stop the damn Nigerians .
This is true and as long as its only a few, Ch would do fine. Most of us here would. The problem comes in when its too many. Now waht are you going to do ab out your own miserable replacement rate? Would you prefer hostile towelheads or assimilable if boorish post-Europeans? I think you know the answer. I don’t think this will happen anyway. More people would choose a place like Oz or Canada than Europe and those who did wouldn’t stand out so much as they would already be quasi-European in their mentalities. Mostly, Europe is too stagnant economically or was until recently. I like the food and the history everywhere but now that I’m married, I like life better here.
Seduction and perversion of the Founding Father’s creation is not abandonment. It makes no sense to stay when there has been a quiet invasion of people who hate what the founders stood for, have trashed the constitution (we need to repeal the 17th amendment and bring back nullification, especially for the supreme court).
Grand-dad was from where Ayn Rand came from. If Putin allows a “Galt’s Gulch”, I’ll be on the next plane.
Preferring a warmer climate to freedom? Really?
Preferring a warmer climate to freedom? Really?
Freedom, hell… survival!
I’ve got a better idea… let’s swap our Black Is Beautiful aficionados with their so-called evil Apartheidchiks.
Better to be a live Afrikaaner in Topeka than a dead one in Pretoria.
But will it play in Pretoria?
So long as it plays in Astoria!
@ tz2026 – The people who hate the “people who hate what the founders stood for” were and are genetically WHITE!! Genetics are, have always been and always will be helpless against PHILOSOPHICAL IDEAS. Why? Because you’re not borne with the ability to reason correctly. You have to learn how to do that.
What a really weird post. The Atlantic and Pacific Oceans still provide us with thousands of wet miles of protection from brown and yellow peoples, even with our stupid policies of the recent past. A major problem with Europe, especially continental Europe, of course, is density and the close proximity to Muslim lands. Um…..what? No way this will happen. You want to go to Europe and be even closer to millions of angry muzzies? Also, as far as continental Europe or white areas, nobody speaks Greek, Italian, Dutch, German, Swedish, etc. All we have to do is enforce the U.S. Constitution’s primary concern: protection of private property, and restore some semblance of 1950s order that contains female hypergamy by law (no “no fault” divorce). And stop rewarding single motherhood and all the other black behaviors. Shame, with culture, the average white woman today aged 19 all the way to 38 (smack in the middle of Gen X), who has 0 kids while Lawfawnda from the ghetto with no job has 8 kids. We good white men can’t find a good woman (one with good genes less than 150 pounds) to give us children!!!! They are too selfish to make their own parents into grandparents. They are busy riding the cock carousel. The answer is not to move to Greece or Italy.
“What a really weird post. The Atlantic and Pacific Oceans still provide us with thousands of wet miles of protection from brown and yellow peoples”
WTF??? Oceans providing protection from brown people??? Have you been to an American city lately? They are overflowing with Mexicans and blacks.
But yes, it is good that the oceans protect America from the yellow peoples. If America was flooded with Asians, Asians would probably bump American whites from the socio-economic top spot within a generation or two.
I don’t think it’s beyond the realm of the possible that should a Nationalist government ever come to power in some European country, that European-Americans could be invited back to “cleanse” the territories of African, Jewish, and Muslim settlements, in return for citizenship.
You miss the importance of class in Europe. Will we invite in a lot of US ‘trailer park’ people just because they have nice white skin? Not a chance my friend. It’s always the ‘losers’ who move in mass migratipons and we have enough losers here already thank you.
[CH: Who actually emigrates is an interesting question. The US is definitely getting the losers of Mexico right now, but in the past many immigrants, or more precisely colonists, were oppressed religious minorities, adventuresome types, or free market capitalists who wanted to strike it rich where there was more opportunity to start one’s own business.]
In the case of many immigrants to America, the losers turned into the winners.
“European immigrants and 3rd world immigrants are not interchangeable.”
Abolish the welfare state and find out.
Of course few English barons or French Viscomtes were on the Mayflower. I insist that immigrants have largely been the losers in their own country – that’s why they leave, It has always been the poorest.
[CH: I would like to see a cite for the poverty of the American colonists (relative to the neighbors they left behind). Genuinely curious about this.]
These people’s ‘adventuresomeness’ was sparked by the entrepreneurial culture that the US once had – this gave former losers a new chance to become winners.
{European immigrants and 3rd world immigrants are not interchangeable.]
I do know that London publishing houses sold well over half of their output to the American colonies, far more than was sold in Britain.
“[CH: I would like to see a cite for the poverty of the American colonists (relative to the neighbors they left behind). Genuinely curious about this.]”
I doubt it would indicate much regardless because American colonists arrived here before industrialization and free market principles had really proliferated. Hence, people who were poor were not necessarily less able in any way. Back then, people might have been poor because their ancestors sided with Cromwell and were disinherited or because they were part of an unpopular religious order. These things say nothing about a family’s aptitudes.
Today, if you are poor and working at wal mart for minimum wage as a white person, you are probably not that bright. But being poor in 1701 did not imply the same about innate ability.
Not sure if anyone has seen this relatively recent video titled “Immigration Myths Debunked” The speaker Ben Powell echoes you’re thoughts that immigrants are more adventurous in general seeing as how they left their countries to come here despite not sharing language/customs/ etc… Powell however does not specify whether he speaks about illegal or legal immigrants. I do not endorse his views but the video has sparked a fiery debate akin to this article.
Arse-knee has no frame of reference. He is a descendant of the “winners” who stayed to be the subject of kings and fodder for permanent revolutionary war until the “losers” came back and forced peace and liberty upon them, while the “winners” were kicking and screaming all the way. Freedoms which they fantasized about for centuries, freedoms bequeathed (not earned) and vouchsafed to them without cost. Now that they shitcanned their prosperity and independence, they blame us for every ill consequence. A slave mind is a slave mind.
Seriously, we stopped asking for their “support” in Afghanistan because some of these once fierce and martial countries couldn’t field a squad of men who could do jack shit, and only got in the way.
I can understand the barely-disguised envy. His only criticism of us comes straight out of the Alinskyite interpretation of my culture.
Hey, winner: there’s a reason the left portrays us in the worst possible (and most inaccurate) light. Think on that one.
We are a nation of trailer parks? Have you ever visited the fifty cultures of the fifty states? You’re even worse than our media class, even more enamored of our eurotrash-style president than they are. You insecure, delusional dupe.
What cuntry are you from, boy? Did you notice you were speaking my language? Did you notice the entire planet is too? Do you realize you are aping my culture without even knowing it, while I couldn’t give half-a-fuck what your peon province thinks about my empire?
Matt
” Did you notice you were speaking my language? Did you notice the entire planet is too?”
Nothing special about this phenomenon. The whole civilized world use to speak Latin at one time.
“Do you realize you are aping my culture without even knowing it…”
That’s not exactly an endorsement.
“…while I couldn’t give half-a-fuck what your peon province thinks about my empire?”
Your empire? Look around you, Matt. “You” are not in charge anymore.
It’s important to know more about Mexico. There are 30 families there who control the vast majority of the country’s wealth. The fact that there are ‘losers’ there is likely to have less to do with their intrinsic intelligence or ambition, but instead it’s difficult there in the extreme if you’re born into that situation and are not of spanish descent (they have a 2 tier society there – Those of Spanish descent and Indians – basically Incas/Mayans/others). You don’t hear too much about lazy Mexicans in USA so I don’t think there’s too much to worry about in that respect –
[CH: A recent study showed Mexigrants work less than native whites.]
The 2nd and 3rd generations will assimilate –
[Again, recent studies show 3rd and 4th gen Mexigrants are not only NOT assimilating, they are regressing to something resembling the black mean.]
I only worry about their lack of emphasis on education.
[There’s more to a nation than its national average IQ.]
Last but not least, the vast majority of immigrants here were basically serfs or subsistence farmers in Europe and came over close to broke: the huddled masses coming on a hope and a prayer.
[They built America. Mexicans have, so far, built Mexico. Extrapolate at your leisure.]
CH: … but in the past many immigrants, or more precisely colonists, were oppressed religious minorities, adventuresome types, or free market capitalists who wanted to strike it rich where there was more opportunity to start one’s own business.
Exactly. And the racists in their home countries were happy to see them go. That’s why Hitler thought he could beat the US. Well, he couldn’t. But he wasn’t beaten by superior genetics, but by a free people who outproduced him!
Yes but it was UK, USA and USSR against Germany(well effectvely at least), and USSR weren’t free people…
Something more on the subject that you seem to not understand.
People that created USA weren’t losers, they were religious minorities, and not those traditional of old, but new ones. Which actually means that these were people of great and strong charachter that choose to abandon everything they had in old world because they couldn’t live without the truth as they saw it. These were the STRONGEST of the Old continent, not the weakest.
But Italian and Irish immigrants may be different story since those may be considered losers in their respective countries, and arrived in US to make a better living.
Initial behaviour of these groups indeed showes their loserdom mentality (Irish low wage workers, and Italian criminals), but since they were culturally very close to ruling class they could identify with them and became Americans in full sense of a word(not a WASP but…)
Now Black Americans had like 100 yrs to do the same but keep failing, hispanos though may stand a little better.
@ Alex – Yes, I am aware of that, my friend. But UK and USSR wouldn’t have had a chance without US aid and troops (including the USAAF).
I am aware of that too.
Black Americans, according to at least Thomas Sowell, were starting to do fine in the 1890s (if I remember correctly) when a wave of racism swept the nation. They had recovered by the early 60s, when “the Great Society” hit them.
what HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN REAL LIFE a few months ago was that the King of Spain’s Prime Minister invited any Jew, anywhere in the world, upon the flimsiest assertion of ancestral ties to the Expulsion Of The Jews in 1492, to receive a Spain passport.
Too many whites in the rural parts, with guns, for any kind of situation you describe.
There will be a breakup of the states, lots of bloodshed, but it isn’t going to end well for people who aren’t white.
When the shit hits the fan, being near a major US city will be like Snake Pliskin and Mad Max having an African love child with turrets and an itchy trigger finger.
Boers are getting asylum in Georgia (former Soviet republic, not the us state). Presently in small numbers, but this may increase. One reason is to bring farming skill to their moribund post-soviet agriculture. Secondly, because Georgian president’s wife is Dutch and has expressed sympathy to her Boer cousins.
There is YouTube video of this. The 55year old Boer farmer is profiled in the news clip. He sounds happy like a child to be in Georgia. He reminds me of cold war era eastern Europeans who came to America decades ago.
Georgia also has excellent farm land. Glad to hear about this.
The view’s pretty nice from where I sit. Still find my last profile a source of mockery? I’ve since found my manicorn, but I can let you know of any desirable real estate, if you want. You’d probably be an entertaining neighbor
Good post. We should leave the USA behind for the rednecks.
Do us all a favor.
Where’s your compassion and humanism. Are you secretly an elitist?
Redneck is a hate word. You hater.
In this crazy day and age, white liberals have made it acceptable to hate white people
let me correct that, they actually encourage it, they even teach it in school
because they are so tolerant and so open to ALL cultures ( sarcasm )
Why would white Americans want to move back to Europe, when America’s economy is doing relatively better than Europe’s and America just discovered oil in Alaska.
America has the most white people in the world, so I don’t think the mass migration of over 200 million people into Europe would be good for Europe.
Europe is already overcrowded because it’s a small continent, and Americans are used to living with wide open spaces.
Mass immigration of Americans into Europe would increase property prices in Europe drastically, and the Europeans would fear that their countries would be ‘Americanized’ and probably turn into a third world countries.
Another important factor you miss is that, white Americans aren’t really 100% pure white, most white Americans have some Black or Native American ancestry(I’m not sure exactly how much), whereas most Europeans are nearly 100% white, so they might actually require Americans to take DNA tests, and anybody with more than 5-10% non-white ancestry could be denied entry.
I find funny how cynical Americans can be about their country, perhaps because people like you have never traveled, you only fear America’s demise because 1.It has a half-black President 2.It’s going to be majority minority by 2043(but still whites will outnumber blacks,Asians and Hispanics on an individual basis) and 3.You’re deep down a covert racist/Nordicist.
Your last point about moving to Canada is pointless, because it’s ignorant of the fact that Canada is 18% non-White, and non-White people make around 48% of Toronto’s population and over 30% of Vancouver’s population, and it’s growing rapidly in Alberta.
The only good thing about Euro-Americans moving back to Europe would be that Native Americans,Alaskan Natives and Hawaiians would be able to get their land back.
“The only good thing about Euro-Americans moving back to Europe would be that Native Americans,Alaskan Natives and Hawaiians would be able to get their land back.”
From the Blacks Mexicans and Asians?
At best the Native Americans would end up working 50 hours + to pay for the social benefits afforded to those two upstanding groups. I’m sure the black community would be overjoyed to pack up and leave back to Africa, since the white man left. Dont hold your breath on that one.
” most white Americans have some Black or Native American ancestry ”
That’s the biggest load of bs I’ve heard all day. Back it up with facts or STFU.
The cogdissery around here often degenerates into hyperbolic bovine excrement.
“Most” is one of those keywords to watch for, among the disingenuous.
You guys are welcome. And choose any country you want.
more likely secession followed by a bloody balkanization as races self-select their geographic area. Followed by an even bloodier reprisals against the right kind of white people who got us in this mess are slaughtered.
I still insist on enslaving their women.
I’ll settle for hearing their lamentations.
Followed by an even bloodier reprisals against the right kind of white people who got us in this mess are slaughtered.
That, more than anything else, is what I’m in for. It’s not enough that the Enlightened™ are merely out of power – I want them punished! Start oiling up those guillotines!
It will be more subtle and it’s already been happening: We will move to enclaves within America that suit our socio economic status and avoid contact with others below us to the extent it’s possible. Those who can will create an escape hatch, hedging their bets with a house in Costa Rica, a small Farm in Peru, and bank accounts and businesses, or some way to get an income stream (a share in a business for example) elsewhere. Europe: I don’t think so unless you get somewhere interesting and cost/tax effective like Moldova, Romania or Khazakstan (before you laugh pls note there are a Million or more Russian nationals there which means 6′ tall blondes
Who would subject themselves to the 62.5% tax rate in Denmark (not to mention everything else there (like a VW wagon costing $100k and gas at $12/gallon – these are actuals, all of them taken directly from my Danish associates)
Europe is a great place for tax planning if that’s the way you lean. Off the top of my head, there’s Ireland, the Netherlands, UK and territories, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Monaco. Pour one out for Cyprus. And then EE and the Balkans.
holy crap: that Radish Mag tweet/link. It’s a mystery. I feel like I need more diversity, self-divestment courses.
Yep. I agree with the back to Europe agreement for any European American who doesn’t like diversity. Because at least when people of the various European nations create right-wing nationalist movements (like National Front and Golden Dawn) they actually have the best reasons to do so.
B2E for the lefties, for sure.
The conservative version will be called “flight to Idaho”.
The Central Mountain states are a tough place to thrive as a criminal or general layabout, so that area may attract the productive conservative, provided they can give up their more urban existences elsewhere.
Return to Europe has already begun.
I’m fond of Argentina and follow their politics etc. I noted about 10 years ago during one their cyclical economic downturns Argentines w/ Italian ancestry were flocking to the Italian Embassy to begin the re-patriation process. I thought that was ironic and strange but now I see their point.
“Uh, sorry but my grandfather left Italy to come here and I just wanted to ask if I, maybe, could go back and work his family farm?”
Check out Uruguay instead. Argentina is an absolute economic/political mess as you should know. Uruguay has very minimal income tax and corporate tax. They get their money from property taxes and it’s very much up and coming in a way most Milton Friedman admiring people would applaud.
Argentina is one thing. But there has never been any period in American history when large numbers of Americans emigrated abroad, or at least exceeded those immigrating (except at one brief period during the Great Depression).
i liked argentina a lot. i was just there for a few weeks a couple months ago. but, i don’t think i would want to live there, either.
Psh anyone who even considers leaving America over stupid shit like this should just gtfo. I eagerly await the cunt diaspora. Half of this country was settled by people who made do in the middle of fucking deserts. I’m confident that that pioneer strain won’t be the one we’ll lose. So sayonara, as far as I’m concerned.
Yes, and fuck yes.
If only the runts would self-deport.
To be more clear, though, so there’s no confusion (hate to niggle over differences): racialist whining is the same as any other whining. There are only two groups worth mentioning — winners and losers. Now, some of you may chime in with ‘aha, but ONE group tends to have MORE winners….’ Shut the fuck up. Anyone who attempts to subsume a group’s accomplishments onto his or herself as an individual is a piece of shit, plain and simple. Why? It’s value taking at its finest. If your individual “genetic stock” were anything noteworthy, there’d be little need to look outside the bounds of yourself to find something great that can, in some way, be connected to you.
Back to our commonality: the market, sexual…economic…whatever, is king. The most important phrase in the American language is “prove it.”
Say it loud: “I’M BLACK AND PROUD!”
Funny how you “others” never mention the “you can’t take pride in your kind because YOU yourself didn’t do (whatever)” tripe argument during Black History month, sports triumphs, etc.
It’s natural for people to “root” for their own kind, much like parents root for their own children, kids take pride in Granddad’s or Dad’s achievements, etc., etc. etc.
So you and your ilk should just stow this tack of Cathedral litany… it’s hypocritical, for if anyone is racially proud and aware, for deeds both real and imagined, it’s those who attempt to deride whites for it… and it makes no sense in that the human psyche has a healthy and natural affinity towards one’s own family and extended family,
Ummmmm….do you see me taking credit for any group’s achievements? Classic fucking whiner — turning and projecting your own faggotry onto others. Go quote some more movies, champ.
The only thing worse than “racialist whining” is disingenuous anti-white whining masquerading as some sort of high horsemanship..
Luckily, the language barrier alone is sufficient to keep most americans away from Europe. And your propaganda is so efficient, that 99% of all Americans really believe that the US are the “greatest country in the world”, thus refraining most people from even thinking about a life outside the US. For the broad majority of people who are not either rich or famous, Europe has so much more to offer than the US…let alone our cultural richness and history & of course a much higher percentage of hot women, even in the low-tier countries as compared to the US.
Post-Christrian Europe consists of devout Cultural Marxist states. As such, they will oppose white migration from the U.S in favor of immigrants from Africa and Muslim nations. The idea that Europe would allow widescale white immigration is too preposterous to discuss. What a stupid article.
Sad but true.
Another plus of Europe. Nice low ages of consent in the teens, so you can legally nail high school girls who stay the same age while you get older.
In my experience, Euros do not think about Americans unless they have to. All of their strong feelings are aimed at their neighbors.
North America is largely empty. Look at a night-satelite picture if you doubt this.
there’s no need to destroy the wilderness or attempt to stupidly populate the deserts. Just kick out the niggers, spics, muslims and raise boys to be men.
Bring back the Great Books For Men and toss out girl porn and faggot bullshit.
If we’re successful, and we fix things, it will last almost a century at best. Then it will all happen again.
then we’ll be forced to leave, as is told in the Sacred Scrolls of Pythia.
So say we all..
@Nietzsche Muslim isn’t a race or an ethnicity like Jewish is.
Muslims can be of any race, white,black,brown or yellow, one of the most popular Imams in the U.S is Imam Suhaib Webb, he’s a white guy, there many Asian,Arab,Persian,Bosnian and Black Muslims.
Muslims aren’t really a threat to America because they don’t leech off of government programs, the reason is that 34% of Americans Muslims are Asian, and Asians aren’t eligible for Affirmative Action, 26% of American Muslims are Arabs and Arabs are categorized as White by the U.S census bureau so they don’t get any benefits either, and around 15% of American Muslims are Persian and they’re also classified as white, the rest are Bosnian,Chechen,Albanian,Berber and W.A.S.P converts , and Black people make up only a 20% of the American Muslim population,so only 1 in 5 Muslims in America benefit from Affirmative Action.
Stick to the game, Heartiste.
Your political harangues are ill-conceived and short sighted.
Europe has exactly the same problems as ‘merica does, only ten times worse.
The SWPLs are everywhere and in positions of power, no ousting them anytime soon.
Even if I agreed with you that immigration is systematically a bad thing, Europe has way more immigration and illegals than does ‘merica.
In short, Europe is more fucked than the US.
The only frontier left is space.
Let’s colonize the moon and re-enact Heinlein, that would be fun.
you must be insane. Regarding game and chicks Europe (at least Western Europe and Scandinavia) is following the steps of the US.
Regarding economics and migration. Governments here keep us busy filling our countries with saharian or subsaharian non-qualified immigrants and romanian gypsies everywhere (look for them and the consecuences in Italy, Spain, Sweden, Hungary, France, you name it)
There is no going back, it is the multiculti of the left. The immigrants which are coming here to pay for our retirement (ha!) and while unemployed they are having kids in numbers that surpass us (3,4 for muslims)
If the US is damned we are next
There is no running and hiding. there’s no resettling where we came from. We’re not our ancestors. We’re nothing like Europeans. In order to control our fate and the fate of this nation and maintain our way of life, or what SHOULD be our way of life, is to fight. Fight the government, fight the people who come here and have the nerve to claim they can come here because it’s stolen land and destroy them or send them back to the Hell from whence they came, because there is no reasoning with them.
People have no respect for Americans and our claim to this soil because we don’t fight for it. BLOOD is all that is respected and honored. Blood shared and the spilling and potential spilling of Blood. Everything else is secondary.
Do any of you people imagine we’d have to hear bullshit about Indians and our lack of a right to this country if detractors were immediately sent home, or killed when they got out of line?
I especially like the cunts who talk about Mexican’s claim to the west. Spend 5 minutes reading up on the atrocious behavior on the part of the newly independent Mexican government who went right to work on the South Western Indians with whom Spain had a somewhat mutually beneficial arrangement.
Surprise surprise when the White Man left Mexico to do it’s own bidding, they fucked it up royally.
The irony of it, and the forming of Texas is that they welcomed immigrants to the territory (White people) who actually used the land, in an attempt to quell the Indian raids. Look how that turned out once the White Man outnumbered the brown half-savage Mexican.
>Canada is closer and more simpatico (speak the same language)
Could’ve fooled me.
I’m not sure how even English-speaking Canada would react to a wave of Yank immigrants; Quebec ain’t gonna have it, not until it’s forced on them.
Despite what a lot of people are writing on here, America is worse off than most of Western Europe, Australia, and Canada. Those places all have much more sensible immigration policies than we do. We have gone from 90% white to barely over 60% white in a generation. They all have higher percentages than that, even if they’re following the same suicidal path we are on.
We do have a tradition of limited government and freedom though they don’t have, as was manifested with the tea party grass roots movement in 2009. You wouldn’t have that in Europe–but then again, you wouldn’t have a UKIP party in America.
Heh, England’s capital city, (London), 45% identified as White British in 2011, (probably even worse now). And that’s in the capital. Imagine what it’s like for us further out in the “Sanctuary” areas where they’ve been specifically hoarding them in. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20680565
Here’s a dirty little secret: compare Canada to the northern U.S. Which is whiter?
I am in Canada and it is less white everyday , believe me.
I was in Ontario a few years ago, and I was shocked at the numbers of South Asians I saw there. Lots of Chinese too, but I’m used to seeing lots of Chinese as I live in a university town. It looks like Canada is trying to brown itself as much as the U.S., even though we have our own native blacks and have built up a Latin American horde due to being next door to their homelands. What’s Canada’s excuse??
I know a couple people who have gotten European citizenship based on the immigrant status of their parents or grandparents here in the US. I would qualify for it in Germany if my mom had been born in the US instead of Canada when my grandparents emigrated from Germany. My aunt was born in the US so my cousins are looking into it. My friend, through his wife, and their children are now dual citizens of the US and Italy.
This video is one I referred to upthread – Boer farmers given asylum in eh former Soviet republic of Georgia. The Boer refugee in the video reminds me of Eastern European immigrants to America during Communism with his almost childlike joy at finally being free.
Vera is kinda cute, although her eyebrows are rather prominent.
I think the impression of “childlike joy” that you have has something to do with the farmer’s slightly slurred speech. As a South African I can testify that it is not due to his accent, but rather probably to brain injury as can be deduced by the prominent dent in his forehead. Likely he is one of the lucky few to have actually survived a farm attack.
A see a little problem with your theory there, Heartiste. “They” will follow you everywhere. The “oppressed” just can’t get enough of that “oppression,” my friend.
If any of you fence sitters need more proof before deciding to leave and renouncing your U.S. citizenship (yes, you have to give up citizenship or you continue to owe the IRS on all earnings made outside the country:
Actually, you only have to pay U.S. taxes if you make more than ~$100,000 abroad. But yeah, I agree that it’s stupid you have to do it at all.
I thonk conservatives will go back to europe due to bloofd loyalty.liberal would run to japn korea or china.
Euro obeisty is still lower than usa any giirl there would be a step up.
Adaptin will be no problem if somalians can handle sweden it shouldnt be a problem
culture wise europe has anericanized to a degree thanx to ge media.
Europe has mixed with each other viking barabrian roman greek celts arabs turks n huns invadin eaxh other on that land.
Aldo leftys will just wind up givin up there arms like iceland. Eueope will become superpower again
I don’t see a “Back to Europe” movement at all. Not from anybody who knows better. The EU is more screwed up than the US is. The US somehow fought two wars and bailed out banks and auto manufacturers and we’re still not as screwed up as the EU is right now. Most of their talent has immigrated to other western countries and they can’t even feed themselves without importing most of their grain. Eastern Europe might be a viable option as long as they don’t join the EU (sorry Croatia). And I only say that because of the favorable exchange rates.
Heartiste said: So where does a Euro-mutt American resettle in Europe? Germany? England? Italy?
Sigma Male replies: Haplotype should determine resettlement.
Mine is I1 … Mother Europe awaits brothers and sisters, let us make haste.
If you have the wherewithal to move to Europe on your own, than you might as well just use your motivation and spirit to just fight for the White Republic in America.
At that point, where Europe is the final refuge, I think fighting will be saner and easier than running for your average White American.
The Solutrean hypothesis does have some scientific backing. It is a theory about the peopling of the Americas, according to which Whites from Europe may have been among the earliest settlers of the American continent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis
What you ‘owe to your country’ is really what someone wants you to do to please him, but for which he’s unwilling to make it worth your while. – Harry Browne
Yes please all you paranoid *RACISTS* PLEASE LEAVE AMERICA! That will be the best thing to ever happen to this place!
Without White people the population of Detroit would start eating each other to avoid starvation in week. Tops. Without White people the population of Detroit would have no one to sew them up after shooting each other — their shootings which are now survived would turn into mass murder.
Hey — that’s a great idea. Lets all leave. Detroit will be like Africa, with child sacrifice, albino and pygmy cannibalism, only with snow.
If they leave America will then turn into one large Detroit hell hole
Maybe to you this is ” the best thing to happen to this place”
Why don’t more of you Americans come over to Australia?
The way things are going here were are going to get completely overrun by the Chinese and Indians.
It’s getting fucking ridiculous here.
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I’d turn Amish before I’d turn European. Also I’d say we should have taken the original Planet of the Apes seriously as the Muslim invasion of our culture is mirroring that movie. only it’ll be the Planet of the Desert Apes.
This is a timely post for me. I’ve been planning on making sure my son learns German and reestablishing connections to distant relatives in Germany so at least he can bug out when the time comes.
weird. why not learn the aryan language: sanskrit/hindi instead ?
I’ve learned German and am now fluent. My career has skyrocketed after mastering the language, as there is great demand for German-speaking Americans who can work on both sides of the Atlantic. You’re doing your son a huge service.
I’ve lived in Germany for a few years, then was moved to NYC to help open up a subsidiary here. I am much better remunerated in the US, but if they asked me to come back to Germany, I would jump on it in a heartbeat even though I would take a huge paycut. Living in a country where the people are civilized, respectful, intelligent, and clean, where everything just works and is of high quality, is just amazing.
Not gonna work.
Whites gonna cluster around “reservations” / compounds in the midwest like Native Americans and Fundamentalist Mormons.
Speaking of Mormons, especially the radical polygamous sect, they’re doing the right thing in preserving the white race and pumping out dozens of white kids. I grew up around mormon girls and they’re the sweetest nicest white girls around, not skankified nor tainted by mainstream culture and not attracted to black cock. Say what you want regarding their crazy beliefs, but the moral upbringing is there.
As an evil Chinaman concerned about the plight of the white people against the invading Muslim hordes, I’ve been thinking about using my wealth and power to adopt fatherless white girls and school them through the best Geisha schools in Japan. Trained in the art of being feminine and submissive, I will then parade my adopted daughters in front of salivating beta white males and extract a premium bride price for them. Imagine hot white girls behaving like demure asian women and not susceptible to alpha bartenders since only Beta game works on them… hahahaha, I’ll be rich!
Not a chinaman’s chance in hell…
You yellow fairy.
Neanderthals understood the meaning of enforced diversity. I mean, like from both sides.
It is going to be effing awesome when more and more DNA/genome results come into the general awareness.
The only picture I have up in my office is of a red-haired, green eyed child who died in a cave in Spain about 40,000 years ago. And that of her DNA Nature set out to preserve.
Since a huge percentage of the people I work with recognize themselves – in maybe 3 milliseconds – in that picture, it is “interesting, in an interesting way.
But of course, I say it is all just a joke. She was not even really human. Her brain was growing too fast for pre-school and she threw a baseball funny.
Hard to see how Europe would be more attractive than making a last stand in a region of the US. The issue of energy resources, arable land, fresh water, and a reliable climate make the upper Midwest, northwest & bits of New England most attractive. The far left is deeply entrenched in western Europe & are doing their best to outlaw dissent until their desired demographic transformation is complete. Probably game over in Europe by 2025 or so.
+111
Contrary to assumption, I think most B2Eers will be of the liberal persuasion.
Consider instead Thomas Fleming‘s “Looking Backward” in the July dead-tree issue of Chronicles:
… [Obama’s notional successor] passed the Universal Freedom of Religion Act making it illegal for churches to deny any sacrament or ceremony to anyone on the basis of race, ethnicity, age… sex, or gender… One by one, disjointed fragments of Christendom found themselves stripped of their tax-exempt status and subjected to fines and penalties… The last outposts of Christianity in the post-Christian world– Greece, Serbia, Portugal, Poland, Slovakia, and especially Russia– gave refuge to fleeing Orthodox and traditionalist Catholics. The European Parliament protested against the admission of so many bigots to Europe…
You could quibble with some of the countries on Fleming’s list, but his scenario rings truer to me. The American state wants tax revenue and hates anyone who dares question the sacredness of diversity.
My great-grandparents came to this country because it was a place they could earn a good living honestly while following their own brand of Christianity rather than the government’s. But with the state pushing its unreligion through the media and antidiscrimination laws, neither of these is as true now as it used to be. On the other hand, there is, maybe not a majority, but a strong plurality in at least Serbia and Slovakia (haven’t been to the others) that takes their faith seriously. So why stick around? If you go back to wherever your ancestors came from, you get all the benefits of a less diverse and more faith-oriented society. What a break from the liberal melting pot!
Don’t forget “America Alone”. Western Europe is increasingly Muslim, and will probably be majority Islamic in 100 years time. Europeans might want to flee to America.
“Who has the right to say that France in thirty or forty years will not be a Muslim country? Who has the right? Nobody has the right to take that from us, nobody has the right to deny us that hope. To deny us the right to hope for a global society faithful to Islam.”
Who has the right?
Canada or Australia seem more plausible. I’ve thought about Australia or a gringo colony Mexico myself. Europe will probably descend into anarchy and civil war sooner than the US.
With the Australian dollar taking a dive, things are looking even better for Americans wanting to come here.
http://www.theage.com.au/business/markets/stevens-puts-dollar-in-tailspin-20130703-2pann.html
I am really getting tired of walking though central Melbourne and being surrounded by a sea of Asian and Indian faces.
To top it off, the vast majority of their women are fucking ugly.
Makes more sense to coordinate a massive migration within the country to specific states and try to establish bastions of unity. Euroland is too much of clusterfuck (though it would be interesting to be at the ground level to see if Eurozone skepticism gains traction). Moreover, there is a dear cost to expatriating from both a cultural/mental and financial sense, not to mention the complications of the emigration process itself.
I’ve been predicting incountry anti migration laws. No you can’t flee detroits nightlife or massachusetts lovely taxes. No idea how they will implement them, but they are coming. Keep all the white folks from fleeing to a galts gulch. Probably do it under some diversity scheme, white people could move to detroit but not utah or vermont(wouldnt recommend vt), because those places are too white already. States have tried it with tax penalties for leaving, something federal will happen. You belong to your state slave.
Things are about to get interesting. My predictions:
1. There will be an economic collapse here in the US before Obama ends his term.
2. There will be a civil war in the US, resulting in the break-up into different countries (one composed of red states. others composed of blue states).
3. An establishment of a new country composed of red states will then see an exodus of hispanics to blue states or back to latin America as they look for work plus the fact that the welfare system they mooched off of for decades finally runs dry or has been shut off to them.
4. Europe will become more Muslim and ethnic/racial/cultural conflicts will only worsen. More Europeans will leave for elsewhere, with many heading to the new red-state nation in the former US.
You are probably right…unfortunately…
Its time to be realistic about White people. We are going extinct. Mostly because we are not having kids, and non-Whites are at enormous rates, moving into White historic nations.
The UK, France, the Scandinavian countries, Spain, Italy, Greece — all doomed. The kids there are all … Muslim. It will be like Syria (beheading Catholic bishops to cheers from the “youth”) or Egypt or Iran or Saudi. Hellholes. All. The UK is dead, it just does not know it yet. It might retreat further into fantasy of Harry Potter and an English past, but its future is Black and Pakistani and oh so Muslim. With variations, that is most of Europe.
INCLUDING Russia. Which has even lower birthrates and even higher fertility among … MUSLIMS. Russia’s future is the Koran, and even Putin knows it. Half his people’s children are Muslims. Not even he can kill enough of them to make a difference.
The two choices then are Ireland, which is poor, but isolated in the Atlantic, and filled with angry and resentful people, and Switzerland, which is rich, ringed by defensible mountains, but surrounded by soon to be majority Muslim nations. Within twenty and certainly thirty years, nearly all of Europe will look like say, Egypt does today with its people. Bear that in mind.
I would argue for New Zealand. True its people are insane, and lefty liberal. The place is beautiful (I’ve seen it myself), and ISOLATED. It is hard to get there. There are not many jobs or much wealth. That cuts down in the vibrancy, though there is a lot of Pacific Islander vibrancy around. You won’t get as many Muslims and Africans, or the future of Australia, which is to be a joint colony of China and Indonesia, as both race to see who can effectively colonize it first and decisively. [My guess is Australia is only twenty years away from anti-White laws restricting White property ownership, voting, firearms ownership, and mandating groveling to non-Whites.]
After that, Chile. Also fairly isolated, remote, unattractive to migrants, and with a small, limited population needing skills. Spanish is not that hard to learn, and it might be a White refuge from the coming annihilation here and in most of Europe. Larger South American countries will have a large population aching to kill the Gringo and take his money. Argentina and Uruguay would fit the bill save the insanity of their people and the eternal re-run of Evita Peron, and the nearness of Brazil and the vibrancy sure to come surging south.
The founding fathers were traitors, the reason why America is the way it is. They broke from the ancestral people when they didn’t need to, and decided to make a new ‘American Adam’ which made it far worse. The only betrayal here is when the father betrayed their homeland. Now you give your life and soul to a flag that means nothing, and more and more we are seeing that it means NOTHING.
To their credit, the traitors didn’t expect it to be this bad, they probably imagined an Anglo-Briton utopia without the extras. But of course, that just goes to show how short-sighted they were. ALSO: The U.K. is far from innocent, if anything they encouraged it, the founding fathers wouldn’t have revolted if it wasn’t in their DNA and heritage to do so, and the U.K. has been as bad, if not worse in terms of traitor-hood. So for Europeans to mock Americans would be rich, since they have done worse (and started this all).
lol is this a serious post?
Hey CH, the clulture clash, that’s interesting !
As an european, since I started reading your blog, I couldn’t help but wonder “Would it work with the women here?”
Could you write an article on the culture differences, or explain me here what those are and how they should affect my game?
White migration to the Northwest (Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming) makes the most sense to me. Boise real estate is a buy long-term.
Yep. And to slow down the welfare class from following, just vote against any and all forms of public transportation.
Voting works really well I hear, especially when the other side cheats constantly.
They’ll drop 40000 Somalis on your butt and you’ll lose.
Sooner or later you’re going to have to stand up for yourselves.
No more running, fleeing, or negotiating.
Another great post and thread. Lived there. It probably wouldn’t work. But it’s an understandable impulse. We’re naturally tribal, even the liberals.
About language: amazing how, in 400 years of separate development, British and American English didn’t become separate languages like Spanish and Portuguese, and Russian and Ukrainian. They sound so different because English sounded different in the 1600s, when the English colonized North America. Australia and New Zealand sound Britishy because they were settled much later.
As a 9th-generation white South Carolinian who is unsuccessfully trying to emigrate to Ireland, Denmark, the UK, or somewhere similar, this article hits home for me.
I’ll be honest, though, much of what you say it moot — Europeans don’t seem to want people like me to emigrate.
Lie on your application and say you are from the Congo. Should speed things up.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/roman-polanski-slams-birth-control-pill-sexual-equality-idiotic-article-1.1355585
I really don’t understand why Australia would be a bad idea for relocation. I’m not white so I probably can’t see it.
You’re going to cede territory to people you consider to be inferiors without a fight?
Return groveling to the land your forefathers fled to escape oppression?
Sounds beta, omegaish to me.
Adolf would know what to do.
If anyone listens to a single thing I post on here, please note:
The best solution for whites is to form new states out of the existing States. This is by far the easiest legal/constitutional means of achieving greater self-determination for whites. Currently, northern Colorado is seeking to become a new state, North Colorado. This is how West Virginia was formed, as well as Tennessee and Kentucky.
There are a number of areas where I think this would work given existing politics. Downstate Illinois is a huge opportunity. With the exception of Peoria and East St. Louis, it is almost exclusively white, rural/small town. Downstate Illinois has hated the Chicago political machine for over 100 years. Ohio and Michigan are also good candidates for splitting off into new States. Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin are largely white as it is. Missouri would be another good candidate if it would excise the ghetto hellholes of STL and KC. Depending on how immigration turns out, Texas may need to divide into additional states. It is actually easier to achieve statehood out of an existing state than to ratify a constitutional amendment.
I can tell you that most Upstate New Yorkers would gladly secede from New York State and let Downstate handle its own issues. Our views are diametrically opposed.
Maybe I missed it in the 450+ comments here, but has anyone commented on the destructive nature of blacks and Mexicans? Is it inherent in their race, culture, upbringing, etc.? One now tragic example is Detroit: 50 years ago, the 4th wealthiest city in the country and now, a total hell hole.
What changed? It became more diverse.
Hard to have that discussion here without instigating the pathetic mewling of race apologists. Dey just like us!
London is an absolute dump now many of the areas are completely non-white. In a Somalian district of my own city, even women have been seen squatting and literally having a shit right in the street. I don’t have any problem with someone of another race, but the problem is when they bring their culture along with them.
“… has anyone commented on the destructive nature of blacks and Mexicans?…”
Not being allowed to talk about it is one of the reasons why us whites are now an endangered species
We try to speak about it but they call us “evil rayciss” to shut us up
Those we are not allowed to criticizes are those who control us
@ Holden Caulfield – No. The 60s happened. Get rid of your Lefties and the effects of their policies will disappear with them.
Eurabia? Really?
Heartiste, take a look at this gem: Why America Needs an Immigrant Underclass.
Lolllzololzzzz
From the same website: The Economics of Slut-Shaming.
I think she reads the Chateau.
If the libtards and race traitors went back to Europe, white conservatives would make America a paradise again.
My 2 cents, for what it’s worth…
America is a continent that, since it had a significant number of people in it, had people of varying complexions, ethnicities/races in it. That’s just the land and how things are.
So long as you stay in America, you will become more American.
To some degree, electricity and fossil fuels insulate you from this reality, but in the past it did not, which is why in the past, there was a considerable amount of mixing, despite the hype. Whether legitimized or not, in rather large numbers, people felt an urge to acclimate themselves and their offspring.
America is not a “white” continent, and even just the U.S. is not a “white” country. Europeans just insist, for some reason, on conquering places that they aren’t built to live in long term.
The Romans had it right when they would go to a place, take over, set up a system of tribute, and then leave. Those officials who had to stay in those areas where they were unsuited and unwanted, were known to have a shit job that they were relegated to as a way to keep them far from Rome.
So I’m as supportive of a back to Europe movement as I am a back to Africa movement. If you don’t go back, then you should strongly consider becoming more American and less of a colonist.
If you loved the land like a Native American, you wouldn’t be in this mess.