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Nauseating Beta Male ODA

Sitting near me, facing away, was a frumpily dressed woman. To her side stood her boyfriend (or husband, couldn’t see the hands for ring verification), who was carrying two backpacks in one arm and had his other arm resting on his woman’s shoulders. He leaned over and kissed the top of her head.

A minute later, he did it again. Less than a minute after that, his lips once again anointed the top of her head. Then the head pecks came like a rain, one drop kiss after another.  peck… peck… peck  A wave of nausea overcame me as his peckings reached a crescendo and he began to resemble a chicken plucking seeds from her hair. Finally, I couldna take it no more, and had to evacuate the scene of herbage.

Why do some men do this? Is it for the benefit of their girlfriends? She seemed to be tolerating him well enough, but such egregiously obsequious displays of affection (ODA) have got to be a turn-off for women. In public, it’s worse; a woman can better endure her betaboy’s chimp-like grooming rituals in the privacy of home, where she does not experience the double revulsion that would be the case in public where it’s easy to suspect he’s slobbering all over her to advertise to the world how lucky he is to have her. Or to ward off better men from stealing his hard-won concubine.

If it’s meant as a warning to other men to keep their distance… believe me, dude, it won’t work on any man seriously considering a run for your “prize”. All it would take is one moment alone with your beloved and an innocent offer of a napkin to help “clean up the saliva” from the top of her head, and it’s off to the races.

There’s an alpha way and a beta way to do PDA. Firm ass, boob or crotch grabs, neck sniffs, erotic ear whisperings or hiney slaps are examples of alpha males staking their territory. Head peckings are beta. Why don’t you just pick lint off her exquisite princess robes while you’re at it?

210 Responses to “Nauseating Beta Male ODA”

  1. Ugh.

    Anyone have experience with successfully getting people to stop PDA? Shit gets distracting when I’m working in a coffee shop, and I am loathe switch seats for anything other than escaping Moby Whale Chicks or pursuing nymphs.

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      I propose that a renaissance in the Great Books and Classics is needed so as to re-instill a more traditional Code of Honor which will enrich the lives of men, women, and children, and liberate us all from the debt-financed debauchery, deconstruction, and debasement.

      All men should begin immediately by reading the following books which the central bankers and their fellow churchians hate, fear, and detest:

      0. THE BIBLE
      1. Homer’s Iliad
      2. Homer’s Odyssey
      3. Exodus & Ecclesiastes & The Psalms
      4. Virgil’s Aeneid
      5. Socrates’ Apology
      6. The Book of Matthew & Jefferson’s Bible
      7. Plato’s Repulic
      8. Seneca’s Letters from a Stoic
      9. Aristotle’s Poetics
      10. Dante’s Inferno
      11. The Declaration of Independence
      12. The Constitution
      13. John Milton’s Paradise Lost
      14. Shakespeare’s Hamlet
      15. Newton’s Principia
      16. Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations and Theory of Moral Sentiments
      17. Henry David Thoreau’s Walden
      18. Mark Twain’s Huckleberry Finn (& all of his work)
      19. Shakespeare’s Hamlet
      20. Ludwig von Mises’ A Theory of Money and Credit
      21. F.A. Hayek’s The Road to Serfdom
      22. Herman Melville’s Moby Dick
      23. Einstein’s The Meaning of Relativity
      24. Joseph Campbell’s The Hero With a Thousand Faces and The Power of Myth
      25. Ron Paul’s Revolution & End the Fed
      26. THE BIBLE

      And as men are reading the Great Books for Men, they must start enacting their principles in the living world, so as to exalt our legal system and universities, for it is not enough to thnk and read, but virtue is ultimately defined by *action*.

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      • Maldek says:

        There are 2 sides of the coin. What means slavery for many, means power for others. Will you fight for the freedom of the many or for your own empowerment?

        Given the choice the wise may choose the later.

        • Matthew King says:

          The masses never fight for freedom. They fight for bread and security. Ten to twenty percent will risk everything for liberty, the middle fifty will “go along to get along” and the remaining 30-40% will oppose. The liberal aristocracy (ancient meanings of those words) thus secures “liberty and justice for all” when the few men risk their “lives, fortunes, and sacred honor.” While the middle-sinking-lower class enjoys the Dollar Menu and celebrity diving shows.

          The Roman republic lasted for half a millennium and conquered the known world because they evolved formal patrician and plebeian classes. Similarly, American/European elites used to practice nobless oblige. Now the upper class huddles together for self-preservation away from brown peoples in university towns and government counties, practicing what they refuse to preach (see Charles Murray), and barring their gated communities with “merit” testing while admitting token underclass representatives to salve their fruity SWPL consciences over l’embarras des richesses .

          Matt

      • Uncle Elmer says:

        What, no “Notes of a Dirty Old Man” or some of the many fine “Beeline” classics?

    • whorefinder says:

      There is one air-tight solution:

      RAPE!

  2. ChuckBerry says:

    This move is useful in a LTR as a mockery/sign of not giving a fuck about what she wants.

    “Oh is this embrassing? but I WUBS YOU SO MUCH” +sly grin

    That being said, I doubt that was the use here.

  3. JACK says:

    Yup. 100% beta. I will admit in my past days, I did shit like this. I would constantly be touching the girl, kissing her….cuddling. I don’t know why I did it. I think it’s just how men reveal sexual attraction….the display it physically. That would be my guess.

    But yes, this blog brought my attention to this very topic. I think in the 16 commandments of poon you mention the 2/3rds rule. For every 3 touches or 3 kisses, she gets 2.

  4. Mr. Mitchell says:

    Was any one of the two bags he was holding his girlfriend’s (or wife’s)? If so, it’s another indication of his castrated, enthralled betatude.

  5. John says:

    Fucking in a bathroom = Alpha

  6. Stingray says:

    Firm ass, boob or crotch grabs, neck sniffs, erotic ear whisperings or hiney slaps are examples of alpha males staking their territory.

    Being claimed is hot.

    Head pecking is at best tedious and at worst nauseating.

  7. Only last night I was in a large supermarket in Dublin. A man and woman were arguing beside me. He wanted to buy sirloin steak, she said “no”. She squawked “no” to every single suggestion of his. She was so bossy, and he was so juvenile, I assumed that she was his mother. I looked again and realised that, no, they were a couple. The fitted every Chateau stereotype perfectly – she was overweight and frumpy, he was herbish with schlumpy clothes, non-descript hair and shoes that sucked. Also, his shoulders were slightly stooped and he trailed around after her – perhaps it was this trailing around that had, at first, made me think it was a mother and son.

    What also struck me was her contempt for him – and that kind of woman does not really want to be able to get away with what she does. Her contempt was articulated in both her attitude and, also, her fatness and her crappy presentation. The relationship will break up when he has one fling with a woman marginally less repulsive than she and, upon discovering it, she takes him to the cleaners and separates him from his balls (or what’s left of them) forever more.

    • Julia says:

      These kind of couples in supermarkets are the bane of my existence. They block the aisles while discussing each and every item they purchase. It’s usually the woman who has to give approval before anything goes Into the cart. Even worse are men shopping alone who are being remote controlled by their wives via cell phone. Do you really need this much help selecting a brand of pasta sauce?

      • Hugh G. Rection says:

        I hate grocery shopping, it’s my bi-weekly 30 minutes of hate. Remote controlled beta pussyboys, fat tubs of shit buying tons of crappy pseudo food with food stamps, old bats trying to pay with civil war coins and don’t get me started on the fucking scooters. And that’s a “normal” store, don’t get me started on the SWPL stores, every minute I wanna slap someone for talking utter idiotic shit.

      • earl says:

        Second on the grocery store annoyances. I know what I want and get it…agonizing over what peanut butter you get is a waste of time.

      • Maldek says:

        “Do you really need this much help selecting a brand of pasta sauce?”

        You have a point mylady. I feel the pain of guilt.

        Buying groceries is nothing I do on a regular base. But when I do it, I normaly use my cellphone to get detailed instructions “where to find what” so I will waste the minimum amount of time. Nevertheless you gave me something to think about. Thank you for that.

        • Rusty Shackelford says:

          Better yet, see if your local store offers a delivery option. For a small delivery fee and a $5 tip, I never have to set foot in a grocer other than to buy alcohol, or if I want to personally select some cuts of meat to cook. The time and frustration this saves is priceless. Instead of going to the store after work, I can get more work done at home (and thus make more money) while somebody else brings the groceries to my door.

      • cynthia says:

        Only time my guy should be in the grocery store is when he’s buying meat for a BBQ. The rest of the time, that’s my job. What reasonable woman wants to drag her man along on that inane task?

  8. Exurban says:

    OT, but if it hasn’t come up on this site before, an unintentionally hilarious article by a land whale bemoaning the fatty-shaming she experiences in, of all places, Vancouver. About a year old, but illustrates many of the concepts on this site.

    I’m fat, Vancouver. Get over it.

    • Man says:

      Jesus dude I just fucking vomited thanks a lot

    • John says:

      “Friend convinced me to join a dating site”

      Join a dating site…

      Join a gym

    • Ugh, all I expected to see was some sycophantic ramblings from a deluded land whale, but I damn near closed my browser when I saw the picture of that… thing.

      I still shudder when I think of her blubbery, outstretched arms putting her fatness on full display.

      • Honest to Christ, I read shit like this and wonder if it is actual trolling. Then I realise that it’s not.

        (1) entitlement
        (2) lack of self-awareness
        (3) self-contradictions within phrases let alone sentences
        (4) self-pity
        (5) crappy, useless SWPL degree

        Yes, it’s a Chateau-hamsterthon special!
        (Christ, I’m even writing like the Chateau now!! Hahaha I’m Irish, I should not write with an American accent. Colour – centre – neighbour – stay European …)

        Anyway, the most telling part of this fat cow’s diatribe was, as always, without her knowing it – that Canada doesn’t stock clothes in her size!!

        Hahaha.

        Hoo aboot it, then?

      • ng85 says:

        This chick is barely a 2. Based on the fact that she started college in 2004, I’d say she’s 26-27. She looks like she’s in her 40′s in that photo.

        Also, to her complaints about not finding clothes in her size – When things stop fitting you it’s not society’s fault, it’s your fault for not taking care of yourself and being a NORMAL and HEALTHY size. This doesn’t go for women, too, I also hold the same contempt for men who bitch about their size but do nothing about it.

      • V says:

        i bet she smells bad too

    • Rick Derris says:

      So I guess Vancouver has Homer Simpson’s famous “No Fat Chicks” sign as its welcome mat??? Sounds like the place to go!

    • Maldek says:

      Did you know there is a 2nd picture of this …thing? In underwear? schlurp!

    • Jason says:

      Devil’s advocate would like to say that bitter landwhale in above article above DOES make one good point:

      “There are many reasons someone might be fat besides eating too much and not enough exercise: medication, depression, chronic injuries, childhood abuse, or a bad card in the genetic deck.”

      I’ve known a handful of fatties like that. Makes it hard to publicly shame other fatties, knowing that there’s backstory you may not know.

      But if she’s snout-deep in a bag of potato chips, in public, I say let loose the shivs.

      • Scott says:

        I’ve known a handful of fatties like that. Makes it hard to publicly shame other fatties, knowing that there’s backstory you may not know.

        No it doesn’t. The existence of .5% of the fat population that has some debilitating disease doesn’t make me feel bad for shaming fatties because they might be in that .5%.

      • Hugh G. Rection says:

        Let’s so those people you mention stop eating at all and only drink water. Do you think they’d stay fat?

      • What says:

        medication: the majority of medications i know if actually suppress your appetite. even juice heads who want more size find it hard to eat enough even with the steroids.

        depression: i sort of understand this one where eating can help you cope with depression, but then again, much of the medication used for depression will suppress appetite

        chronic injuries: i guess if you`ve fucked up both your legs and you have nothing else to do but lay in the bed, might as well fucking eat your fat face off

        childhood abuse: horrible parenting in the form of cheetos-only-diets??? lol

        bad genetics: cartman, you`re not big boned, you`re just a fatass!! http://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2f44a4f5044012dd5d2917589f0c04bf

        fatties are lazy as fuck…as are most people…just most people don`t fucking stuff their faces with chocolate and shit all fucking day long and then don`t move!

    • itsme says:

      i’m not entirely convinced that’s a female.

    • Starets says:

      She mentions at the start of the article having trouble finding clothes that fit in Vancouver, lolz.

      That is apparently a problem in Vancouver even for normal sized women. Vancouver has over the past 20 odd years been over run with g@@ks. It has long since reached the point that most stores are catering largely to them, since many of them are well off Hong Kongers or mainland chinese who own slave labour factories in their homeland. Apparently the problem is the same for womens shoes; their are lots of tiny sizes, and not so many normal sizes.

      Of course, the influx of alien invaders has brought many problems of greater significance than female clothing.

      • Did you want to say “gooks”? You can also call them chinks. We don’t mind.

        Vancouver is a shithole. Check out this:
        http://www.crackshackormansion.com/

        • corvinus says:

          Canada needs to dial back its intake of immigrants to below 100,000/yr at the very least. Right now, it’s about 250,000/yr. Guess where they all go? Van, TO, and a few in Montreal, Calgary, and Edmonton.

          • The only thing that is somewhat slowing down race replacement ( what is commonly called “immigration” ) in my corner of the world, Near Montreal city, in the Quebec province, is our strict French language laws.

            On the down side we get some of the poorest, least educated blacks on the planet; Haitians…

            A lot of them go on welfare and are dragging us down…

          • Starets says:

            Yeah, I believe that Canada’s intake of immigrants is, on a per capita basis, the highest in the western world. My country has been remade over the past 20 odd years, and very much for the worse.

            Personally, I think that immigration here should be close to zero. Not only that, I think we should deport many of the ethnic newcomers of the past 20 years.

        • Starets says:

          That is what I wanted to say. I dialled it back slightly because our host not long ago complained about racist slurs, while as far as I know is fine with the discussions on racial issues in themselves. I didn’t think my euphemism would be unclear to many readers.

          Vancouver used to be a great place when I was growing up in the ’70′s and ’80′s. It’s gone to hell since about 1990, when immigration became a flood. The high real estate prices became a problem when large numbers of hong kongers were let in after the HK handover to china. Real estate prices immediately went sky high, where they have remained to this day. Many real Vancouverites have been driven out by the real estate prices, or by the desire to not live in ‘little Hong Kong’. Essentially, an early western case of government instigated demographic displacement of whites.

          There is, however, a lot that is still good about Vancouver.

          • Lily says:

            Asians aren’t as bad as illiterate blacks in the inner cities behaving worse than animals, or black immigrants from Africa flooding San Diego and trashing that beautiful city, or Mesoamerican gangs infiltrating the southern border and beheading people, or Muslims trying to convert through sex and war jihads. Asians are into education – many are doctors and physicists.

            In addition, even if their background isn’t steeped in Judeo-Christian values, they do acquire it once they immigrate to the USA or Canada. In fact, I know many of them who even went one-step further and became Christians. The problem is with white folks. Most don’t try hard enough. They don’t become scientists and engineers. All they think about is a good time – clubbing, drinking, sexing, and getting pregnant out of wedlock. The instant gratification crowd.

            You’re complaining about real estate prices going up, but that’s part of business – supply and demand. Hong Kongers bring money, and not all of them are Asians either. Some are white Brits who work in the banking industry. Those people have lots of money, and they love to spend it in gorgeous Vancouver. That’s why the prices are sky high. It’s not because the banks lent money to illegal immigrants and poor folks (like they did in FL and CA) to buy houses they can’t afford, herby causing prices to go through the roof only to plummet and render properties underwater, which caused the whole economy to collapse. Hong Kongers have cash to spend; they are not getting corporate or government subsidies.

            Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like immigration either, but if there is a problem it’s our fault. Right now, industry is lobbying hard for the government to allow amnesty. They want the cheap labor, as well as a new wave of people to shop at Wal-Mart and the like – more people to circulate money through. Most of those benefitting from amnesty are Hispanics. If I had to choose, I rather have Asians than Africans, Muslims, or Hispanics. At least they’re civilized. We have it worse here in the USA than you Canadians.

          • thwack says:

            Lily
            Asians aren’t as bad as illiterate blacks
            ——————————————————-
            illiterate blacks aren’t as bad as a sharp stick in the eye…

            tha fucks your point?

          • Rogue Male says:

            Illititerate blacks are utterly worthless pieces of shit, thus, Asians are better than utterly worthless pieces of shit. Clear now?

          • thwack says:

            Rogue Male
            Illititerate blacks are utterly worthless pieces of shit,
            ———————————————————————-
            If illiterate blacks learn to read and write enough to take your jobs, would we then be better than asians?

          • Rogue Male says:

            Hey, let’s shitcan affirmative action and find out.

    • corvinus says:

      Her last name, “Nerusskaya”, literally means “not Russian” in Russian. I lol’d.

    • cynthia says:

      Boo-hoo, fatty didn’t get laid for months in Vancouver. I went two years in Tokyo without sex, and at least I have the self-awareness to understand why; size-six white American had nothing on the hot, skinny, Japanese girls. Sometimes you gotta just respect that men have needs and desires and preferences in a bed-mate, too.

    • Fearless says:

      He told me I could probably relate because “you aren’t as feminine as other girls because you’re bigger, but see you probably make up for it because you have a pretty face.”

      -Bet she still sucked him in the alley behind the bar.

    • SC says:

      This Kira woman should just stop whining about being fat in Vancouver and either move to Newfoundland/Nova Scotia/New Brunswick/PEI or a Southern state in the USA. Yes, she is indeed fat, even by the standards of the previously mentioned places, but at least she won’t be the only one. As for immigrants swamping Canada with their presence, at least most of them aren’t landwhales; in fact they seem to be the opposite of landwhales.

    • josh says:

      She says she and her fat black friend were once verbally harrassed by rayciss comments from males of “various ethnicities”. WTF does that mean?? So some jigs saw 2 fatties and thought they could get some poozy??But this bitch cant say its black guys? What a warpig!

  9. This is classical conditioning. When a bird is trained to receive a kernel whenever it pecks a tab, it will only peck when it wants one. If it is trained by receiving a reward only sporadically, it will peck frantically. The Navy used this to teach pigeons to guide missiles in the 1950s. They were taught to peck on pictures of ships and that caused the missile to change course to keep the ship in the center of the screen.

    This guy has been sporadically rewarded for his public pecks. When he did not get a response, he started pecking frantically.

  10. Man says:

    As I delve deeper into this blog and as I have been here a few months, I’m a little closer to alpha than I used to give myself credit for. I have one-itus. I got from LTR to LTR but I’m pretty darned alpha, much of the time, in the LTR, especially in the beginning to get the chick madly in love with me. It’s only inside the LTR that I get betacized and even CH would say (right?) that this is very difficult to avoid. LTR or marriage (especially) almost automatically forces some betacizing. My PDAs are ass grabs and neck whispers that give her goosebumps, she likes it, my GF is always at least a 7 and not frumpy BTW, never more than 125 pounds and that’s if she’s 5’7″, and then I fuck her good as one of the commandments says. My GFs always send me lots of unsolicited naked pics too and they like to be dominated in bed. What should I do with the naked pics after the LTR is ended? Any advice? I have some real good ones right now of my ballerina ex GF. Not random iphone shit either; I’m talking she set up her $5,000 camera on a tripod and dolled herself up and made some real good pics for me for a Valentine’s Day gift one year.

    • What says:

      forward all nekked pics to that one solid friend whenever you get them so they`re never on your phone but you have access to them in the future if you need them.

      i actually lost one of my phones with all my pics on it lol and didn`t have a friggin password on the thing lol shit

      crackhead picked it up im pretty sure so prob wouldn`t have been able to put them on a computer

      • Mitch Cumstein says:

        Email them to yourself, but delete them from your phone.

        • What says:

          make sure none of your passwords are automatically saved either to keep the gf from snoopin

      • gunslingergregi says:

        I got klies air on my phone I just transfer pics to computer with it
        pretty easy to do
        if you want to back it up just buy one of the camera cards download it onto that
        then put somewhere safe

    • Lily says:

      “What should I do with the naked pics after the LTR is ended? Any advice? I have some real good ones right now of my ballerina ex GF. Not random iphone shit either;”

      That’s why you should never send him naked piccies of yourself. What happens after you break up? He can do whatever he wants with them. What are these women thinking? They don’t think, that’s the problem. These games are best reserved for your hubby, not a here-today-gone-tomorrow guy.

  11. ng85 says:

    This is something I’ve been realizing lately. I’ve been seeing a girl on and off for the past few months who is cool to be around, but isn’t anything to write home about. In fact, I’m a bit embarrassed to be seen in public with her (After a few drinks this goes away). But these so-so feelings I have about her lead me to degrade her in ways my blue pill self would’ve never imagined….And she likes it!

    One day a couple weeks ago she comes to my apartment and I don’t kiss or hug her because my roommates are around. She got pissed at me and eventually had to kiss me in order to get a kiss. We go out for dinner, and as she’s following the hostess I don’t hold her hand, rather I smack her ass and then cup it. She decided to pay for dinner, and then we went back to my place where I fucked her silly, called her dirty names, pulled her hair, and came all over her tits, and she loved every second of it.

    Guys, even if you’re with a perfect 10, treat her like this. Being too needy or affectionate will drive a girl away, and she’ll respect you more if you stand up for yourself and, quite frankly, act like you’re disgusted by her.

  12. Myxomatosis says:

    Sickens my stomach seeing shit like this, CH.

  13. Newly Aloof says:

    Saw this shite today at a parking garage. As I entered in my car, I saw a couple walking, the herb a half-step behind average-Jane. He looks off for a split second as his girl stops to tie her shoe. When he notices she isn’t a half step in front of him, he abruptly stops, then retreats back to her side like a puppy until she finished, then went back into his position a half-step behind her as they walked on again. I saw all this in perhaps 3 seconds as I drove by and it made me cringe. Next time, I’m yelling your url out the window at the poor sap.

    • Anon Man says:

      LOL re: the plan to yell out the url. Yeah dude, this website has enlightened me in so many ways. Besides the most important–me being more successful with women (and hotter women) and applying game to all aspects of my life–it’s little things like this. Just the terminology. Every single fucking time you see a couple holding hands in public, invariably the girl is between VERY fat and obese (150 lbs or more), ugly, just a frumpy, gross, disgusting land whale–and now I know her boyfriend is lower beta/omega just to be with her. Now, I do LTRs and have one-itus, but my GFs are always thin and pretty. Always. I either date (and fuck the shit out of, when I have them) thin and pretty girls or NONE at all. I’ve never gone hogging, have flat out turned down explict begging from fatties for me to take them to my hotel room (such as on biz trips), and I’d rather spend a few bills at my local strip club (been doing that lately, in between LTRs) than hold hands with a fattie on the street.

      Now CH, is there ever a time you would approve of spending some money in a strip club? I don’t pedastalize them and in fact I make a “game” of it in trying to get them to spend as much time with me as possible without paying simply because I’m cute and alpha. And they DO see me as alpha compared to most of the dorks in there and they sit with me all night for the price of one dance. And then in the back they make out with me. I have this one cutie I’m working on getting her number. Not yet, but that’s the goal. I give her some money because frankly I don’t mind helping her out…it’s $100 and I make $180,000 a year. She’s a drug free girl too and that’s not me being naïve. I’m in Miami and the competition for hot girls here is huge so the Scarlett’s has top notch hotties, not crack whores. Many of them don’t even drink alcohol. I got off topic.

      There was a post about treating strippers like crap, but tell me how I can get this little cutie to hang out with me in the real world, where SHE would enjoy it as much as me (I’m 38 and I’m good in bed) and she really seems to think I’m sweet in that I’m not “shy creepy nice guy” but I’m confident alpha guy but at the same time gentle as opposed to being mean to her (squeezing her boobs) like many of the frustrated bitter guys do.

      But she says she has a strict rule about not giving out her number.

      Can I break this down?

      I’m not a total beta dumbass and I know she’s working and is not all into me…and we’ve even talked about that…she’s working. But that’s the point…she hangs out with me as much as she can for free while still going to make the rest of her $1,000 that night. But at the same time, she remembered me a month later…seriously remembered me…after I was with her only one time and she’s at Scarlett’s a TOP TOP famous place in Miami hand had seen probably a thousand clients in between the little time she spent with me (the first time I was there).

      CH if you can tell me how to get this girl’s number I will officially consider you God.

      • driveallnight says:

        Oneitis for a stripper. Shoot yourself.

      • gunslingergregi says:

        invite her to go with you when you take a flying lesson

      • gunslingergregi says:

        the same time gentle as opposed to being mean to her (squeezing her boobs) like many of the frustrated bitter guys do.””””””””””

        the sent of troll what else they there for and ain’t you same guy talkin bout having 4 strippers between 19 and 21 or so a few posts back
        talked about same club lol
        same name pretty much

    • Wouldn’t work. How do you pronounce “Heartiste.Wordpress.Com” is such a way that the spelling can be understood? Is the ‘H’ silent? For clarity, I guess hee-arteest would work best. How about, “Hey, Beta! Chat-toe.He.Arteest!”

  14. There is no future as long as we cling to supplicating demanding, unattractive women. You would be surprised how many men who, otherwise, have very many alpha traits are unable to recognise and cope with shit tests. Men have got to start standing up to the shit tests

  15. John says:

    LOL at all the stories of the beta/omega indentured servitude to wives/girlfriends. If you go out to any public place (restaurant, mall, etc) this occurrence is becoming far more noticeable to me.

    Chick was being a brat last night about having sex b/c I wasn’t being romantic. Hid under her blanket. Went to kitchen and grabbed the sharpest knife in the apartment. Came back told her if she didn’t take the blanket off i was going to cut it off. took it off. Told her to take off her short shorts. Bratty said “no”. Started to cut them off with the knife. “Stoppp!” She took them off. Put knife on table. Hot sex ensued.

    First text I get today from her. “I’m so in love with you”

  16. Dr. Zoidberg says:

    Nothing wrong with the hairline kiss if done right. She has to be the one leaning into you and it should be followed by a slap on butt as you push her out of your space. Rationed affection goes a long way.

    These push-pull antics stay effective in LTRs. My personal favorite is when laying around watching a movie (with her laying into you after inviting her to lay into you), without saying anything, is to randomly just grab her face, squeeze her nose, stick a finger into mouth, etc. Essentially it is like training a dog (inviting them onto the couch, taking his toy away, grabbing his snout, etc.) to be completely obedient and establishing dominance. It’s funny how much of the Dog Whisperer applies to game.

  17. feministx says:

    Im so glad to read this. Ive been talking to my psychiatrist for weeks now about how my boyfriends beta posture displays of affection are so revolting. She was trying to shrink me up. Said I had issues with other people depending on me and was rigid and easily made uncomfortable with the full range of personailty expression from a man. Then I had to talk about my parents and stuff.

    Whatever. A guy resting his head on my chest is revolting and nauseating. I spurn my boyfriend forever for doing it.

    • The trail of tears is a natural phenomenon of liberated (feral) women. You’ll move on to the one who is really The One this time. Only a nutcase would try to hold onto his woman no matter what under the current state tyranny. Women can smell the lack of authority. Game over. Every time. You don’t need a shrink; you need authority that shares his bed with you and keeps you in your place. Oh well. Another one bites the dust. You’re still awesome for a chick.

    • Anon Man says:

      Not if he does it with a shit eating grin and exclaims, “Boob pillow!!! I got a boob pillow!!!” My GFs love that. Of course most of the time their hands are tied behind their backs (they love that too). ; )

    • Libertardian says:

      Friend of mine once had an unter-beta who was like this. When she dumped him, she also felt the need to inform him that she was going directly to her ex’s house to be hate-fucked until she cried. Unter-beta behavior is like dousing yourself with A-1 sauce in front of a starved tigress – great way to bring out her mean side.

      • feministx says:

        What pisses me off the most is that boyfriend does not do beta pda. Alpha posture in public. Beta in private. Its comforting for him. But not for me.

        • Vince says:

          Dump him. Now. Stop crying over spilled milk.

        • What says:

          fx i`ll give you credit – decent shit from what i`ve seen so far. but now the crowd needs a full body bikini shot to create an accurate judgement of your `character`

          does your skin tone work well with blonde? do that too

          • feministx says:

            Maybe could do beyonce golden blonde. Youll have to remind me in a few weeks about the bikini thing.

          • Matthew King says:

            Torso shot is better, but thanks for the shoes. What designer?

            Or is that a stock photo “approximation” of your legs? The big stubby white cock cylinder between “your” knees and the lighting and background makes the shot look professionally stylized.

          • feministx says:

            My boyfriend at the used to like to take pro like pics with some expensive camera equipment. I agree. Torso shot is better because I am in better shape now.

          • Kate says:

            Why bother with the bikini? I just saw a nice topless photo of you. Why not post that (again). If you’re looking to trade in your boyfriend for one of the posters here, why not have the integrity to break up with him first.

          • Matthew King says:

            Your knees are pointy. Now, let’s talk footwear.

            And by the way, making a play for respect through that tiny little gravatar window of opportunity is a girl’s best move in this forum. Kate innovated the tactic, but I applaud your move. It works, and all women here should take heed. We are most powerless to visual tricks, and your hope to survive by wordplay is taking long odds. Again, you have to be an undaunted poetess like Kate to pull that off.

            So rotate your photo often and reserve some mystery with artful cropping. We of the HD porn generation grow quickly bored and visually fatigued.

            Matt

          • Rogue Male says:

            “Youll have to remind me in a few weeks about the bikini thing.”

            Are you so fucked up that you can’t even manage your own attention whoring?

          • Kate says:

            Thank you, King, but you are misinformed. Femx had come and gone before I even arrived. Now “she” (?) has returned. I don’t enjoy seeing men made fools of, but, as you were. I’m not the internet nanny.

          • Lily says:

            feministx, you indeed have long legs, and that’s awesome if true. I just hope this picture is not photoshopped. You can make one appear taller and slender, and legs look longer with photoshop. A couple of your previous pictures appeared “lightly” photoshopped. I hope you’re exercising photo integrity……. ?? ;)

          • feministx says:

            My body is 4 real. The pics are absolutely true to life. Kate, that boob pic is years old. Its not truthful to post years old pics of oneself and then say “I look like that.” However once I did look like that.

            Matt, I get my shoes from dsw and stuff. Dont pay attention to the designer.

          • Kate says:

            I’m sorry, but didn’t you say that these latest photos you posted were from five years ago? And didn’t you post that you weighed less in the past? So, they are not exactly accurate representations of what you look like now either.

            I understand being proud of your looks. Regardless of when they were taken, you are a beautiful woman. I simply find it distasteful for someone in a relationship to post them. I question your motives. But, I know our values do not align in other areas either. I would never dream of sharing the photo that was sent to me, but I certainly hope it gives you some pause to know that it is out there and could wind up in anyone’s hands: someone who might be unscrupulous.

            If you are serious about taking your life in a different direction, which I’m not convinced you are, you will need to focus more on shedding bad habits and less on shedding your clothes. If I remember correctly, you are thirty. At some point, you are going to begin to show your age. It seems as if each year after thirty has more of the impact of two.

            I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but, let it be known, I do not take kindly to liars and misrepresentation of the truth. I am very fond of a number of men here and I will not be pleased if you are attempting to dupe them in any way.

            Finally, a lady does not stand with her legs apart. She also does not submit to every man, only hers. You do not, for instance, change your hair color based on someone’s offhand remark. One does not want to be willfully stubborn nor taken advantage of. Try to find a happy medium. Please wear a dress in your next picture. I am sure you look lovely in just about every color.

          • Rogue Male says:

            “a lady does not stand with her legs apart”

            Indeed. She really should lay down.

            Seriously, that’s a priceless thing to say on this site…;)

          • Kate says:

            Well, I am a treasure beyond measure :) Perhaps there is a Nobel Peace prize in my future. After I have ended the battle of the sexes, of course.

          • feministx says:

            Well I am being honest at least about this pic being 5 years old. The others are recent. I prefer not to post out dated pics. Fementity has always been one to post exhibitionist stuff. Who knows why. Its just who I am. My boyfriend alwayswas aware of these characteristics in me. In any case im trying to see that this relationship comes to a close sooner rather than later.

    • Maldek says:

      Watch the Jason Statham movie “crank”: Now THAT is an acceptable level of public display of affection.

      • Uncle Elmer says:

        Yeah, but Statham lost all credibility in “The Expendables” when he roughed up his girlfriend’s lover, then took off on a “dangerous mission” with Stallone to blow up a paper mache’ castle, and his girlfriend went back to her lover while he was gone.

    • Pole says:

      Hey now: maybe he enjoys using them as a pillow for resting his mighty alpha head?

    • itsme says:

      your psychiatrist was trying to shrink you up? the nerve of the bitch!

    • santa666 says:

      What about nuzzling the boobies?

      Motorboating ok?

    • josh says:

      How ’bout if he rested his head on that ass of yours???

  18. Just reading about this made my guts curl up into a knot. I used to be that pathetic piece of shit guy – the memory is nauseating.

    • Newly Aloof says:

      Nausea is the first step to recovery. When the thoughts of past betatude cause you to involuntarily make a grunt sound as you shake your head (literally) trying to get the thought from your mind, you’re on the right path.

    • dave843 says:

      The most ‘alpha’ thing is doing what you want regardless of what people think of it. If you want to lean on a chick for some comfort from time to time I bet there’s one out there that would accommodate that. Being ‘strong and stoic’ all the time can be fucking tiring. It promotes male disposability. I’d rather turn some women off but live as long as they do.

  19. Pole says:

    I slapped my girl’s ass once so hard upon greeting her from behind it sounded like a whip and she shrieked in surprise. She turned around angry as shit then saw it was me n melted in my arms. But about five seconds later White Knight Mcassclown came right up to us and asked her if she was being sexually harrassed and made a huge scene aboit it. I just kind of ignored him and we left to the movies but I felt like I could have done or said something really Alpha to him. I just wasn’t expecting it. Any ideas?

    • whorefinder says:

      Hang yourself before one of your nigger brothers shoot you.

    • Libertardian says:

      “U mad bro?”

    • Libertardian says:

      “Nah, just foreplay. People do it all the time. You’re not invited.”

    • Ignoring the white knight is the best move of all, so top marks.
      Silence speaks volumes

    • thwack says:

      but I felt like I could have done or said something really Alpha to him. I just wasn’t expecting it. Any ideas?
      ———————————————-

      Yeah:

    • “Thanks, Sport… the world needs people like you…” as I turn away with my gal, palm on ass, middle finger externally, rogering her brown-eye in mock salutation, before and aft.

    • CJ says:

      I would make a gesture indicating I would suck his cock. Actually I did it on a few occasions and have a three-stitches scar above my eye as a rememberance of one of them.

    • Doug Funnie says:

      Honestly, if you’re hanging with hot babes this is going to happen pretty often. As a result, the best way to handle it is to disarm him completely and immediately. Usually in this case I’ll just disarm him with a compliment or a distraction. “hey bro nice shirt, you get that at jcrew?” This will usually throw him off, and falling for a beta troll will be totally unsexy.

      If you return it with an offensive comment it’s just going to escalate. I mean, I have no problem throwing down if its needed. But that’s only as a last ditch effort.. In that case take a line from Good Will Hunting – “hey man if you wanna step outside we can probably figure this out.” 99 times out of 100 he’ll just slink away defeated.

    • Matthew King says:

      I could have done or said something really Alpha to him. I just wasn’t expecting it. Any ideas?

      Slap his ass.

    • corvinus says:

      Ass slapping is my favorite. Most recently, I did it to a female friend of mine after she backed her butt into me twice within an hour. This despite the fact that she has worked as a bartender before, and so has a little bit of an edge. She play-acted at using my head as a punching bag, then high-fived me.

  20. berg says:

    I think it’s just a lack of self control. The guy is getting horny and can’t help himself. Which is disturbing.

    • dave843 says:

      Meh, who cares really? Too much policing of male behavior. Alpha, beta, who gives a fuck. Most of these women aren’t worth shit anyway, treat em however you want I say.

  21. Days of Broken Arrows says:

    I don’t agree with the premise here because of my own experiences.

    Some women I’ve dated got turned on by PDA — and when you got them home exploded in a sexual frenzy. In these cases, PDA serves as foreplay. It might gross others out, but if this is the case for this guy he knew what he was doing and it was an Alpha move.

    Remember, it’s usually women complaining guys won’t hold their hands or kiss in public. Sometimes flipping that script has positive consequences — it often did with me, anyway (not that I would ever go as far as this guy did, but still…).

    • Pole says:

      @Days of Broken Arrows

      I feel ya, but I think it’s the kind of PDA. Pecking a chick’s forehead isn’t going to make her primed for sex the instant you get home:but maybe a quick boob grope will.

  22. The Man with the Ugly Wife says:

    You can peck your woman on the top of her head when you want to calm her and shut her up without having to kiss her on the lips or otherwise do something sexual.

    • ConnubialBliss says:

      You can, but doing it more than once a day or so is too much. I kiss her forehead, usually, because she has a continuous, rolling outbreak of face herpes, and rotten teeth, and bad breath. (WHY do I owe this foetid cuntskank alimony? WHY?!)

      It’s a mixed bag, but the upshot of this is at least I’m very much the contextual alpha in my wife’s life. There is no better way to have uncaring asshole game than to be an uncaring asshole. I’m busting my ass to pay for the Ford Focus, but at least my kids are mine, and she doesn’t cheat.

      Before the red pill, it was enough of a consolation prize, but no longer.

  23. Loc says:

    I don’t know why but this reminds me of the time when I saw this huge girl (I’m talking 150kg+ huge) sitting at a table with her underweight, fragile looking boyfriend. I don’t think they were older than 25. They too kept giving each other small pecks in a similar way you describe. But what I remember the most is how the guy couldn’t really look anyone in the eyes. You could almost smell his shame. I have rarely seen a man so young, who looked that defeated already.

  24. Banneker says:

    I need advice. I am a young college professor. I had a 9/10 p.y.t. in my class last semester but I have since moved on to another university to teach. Long story short, she reached out to me via email to inquire about my whereabouts with the subject line “concerned” and then made a showy effort to describe how much she missed my teaching style. She aslo engaged in some playful flirting saying that the only reason she enrolled in an 8am course was because it was me. I took that to mean she may have some interest but I’m not sure how to transition from asexual (ex)professor to gaming. She’s about 10 years my senior. I’ll be 30 later this year…

    • Phillyastro says:

      Wow, the same thing happened to me. Although, I was 10 years older than the student. Are you saying you are younger than your 9/10 p.y.t.? I wish I could give you advice, but let’s just say this blog didn’t exist at the time.

      Funny thing, she admitted to me that the whole class thought I was on coke because of my animated teaching style and sniffles. That’s me, Professor Yam Yam.

    • Kyo says:

      She’s 10 years older than you? Forty? Pass.

      • corvinus says:

        Right. I don’t know how a 40 y.o. can be a “9″ either, but one thing’s for dern sure: the reason she’s chasing you is because 40 y.o. women are easier than a $5 Nigerian whore.

    • saint of killers says:

      “I need advice”

      …what is there to say…she’s 39 years old and probably loves anal…go make unrestrained love to that asshole…

    • Doug Funnie says:

      10 years older or 10 years younger?

      If younger, then play the sophisticated professor vibe. Tell her you’re in town for some dinner with colleagues and you’re free to meet up for drinks after.

      If it goes well, tell her you just got some new art pieces you’ve been dying to show off. Stupid art is a guaranteed tingle factory. I have this one painting in my apartment that’s a bunch of triangles, so I just say its like life where some intersect, some connect and some don’t touch at all. It doesn’t even make sense, but they lap it up.

    • What says:

      get her out for drinks when you aren`t able to pull the 18 yr olds and really show her your teaching style lolololol

    • Buddy Revell says:

      Beware of wooing women this age , no matter what she says or how well she lies, she is playing the endgame and she knows it. Her looks and vigor are spiraling into the abyss of obsolescence. The men who used to view her as an object of worship now stare right past her. She’s gripping for any hold to break the fall. She wasn’t able to lock up the man she wanted in her prime and now she’s ready to settle

      You might think you’re doing her a favor. That you’ll show her a good time. keep things casual and be on your way. But if she thinks for second she’s got you, she’ll never let go.

      Bunny boiling death threats , caustic suicide notes , IVF treatments. Is what you’re inviting if you pursue this.

      Stick with the younger girls they wont take it so hard because they still have time to find someone else.

    • Matthew King says:

      What field of study do you teach? Everything depends on this. Also, is she black?

  25. Anon Man says:

    not many comments here CH put my shit thru bro

  26. Karen says:

    Hey but I LIKE PDA! :D It makes me feel special. I like ‘beta’ type PDA because it makes me feel like my man is broadcasting to the world that he loves me! He likes to rest his head on my boobs. I like sexual ‘alpha’ type PDA too it makes me feel a little embarassed and blush but turned on like “omg hehe stop it you’re embarassing me people are looking that is so inappropriate!”

    • saint of killers says:

      …tell us more about how you feel…don’t leave us hanging…

    • Matthew King says:

      I like ‘beta’ type PDA because it makes me feel like my man is broadcasting to the world that he loves me!

      if the displays diminish his authority over you, he’s broadcasting feminine weakness and subservience more than affection. That thrill you feel is power, but it is like a sugar rush, quickly fading into a silent, inexplicable contempt. You are mothering him, which ultimately will lead to hating him for being so needy.

      I suppose some relationships work this way? But it requires a certain kind of helpless little boy-man you can never respect. Tolerate for the sake of the relationship, but never respect. Then Daddy appears somewhere (in a co-worker, at a chance meeting, etc.), who seems capable of taking care of things, and in contrast affection for your manchild putrefies into indifference at best, vicious contempt at worst.

      That’s what “beta type PDA” indicate. They are not worth entertaining, and you should shame him out of ever doing it. Not because “I feel uncomfortable in public” but because “it makes you look like a pussy, so knock it off.”

      Matt

  27. saint of killers says:

    …my favorite betaboy mate-guarding gesture…is when he creeps up behind and drapes his arms around her protectively…usually happens right after he notices her noticing me…lol…

    • What says:

      fucking worst! i remember this shit in highschool when `that` couple would always pull this shit in the corner of the hallways

    • What says:

      but then there was the contrast too, when i saw my first public finger bang. hick with the biggest truck in school banging one of the cheerleaders from behind while walking down the busy hallway

  28. Longtorso says:

    The latest hamster quote I ran across today on PoF:

    “If she’s amazing, she won’t be easy. If she’s easy, she won’t be amazing. If she’s worth it, you wont give up. If you give up, you’re not worthy. … Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for.”

    ― Bob Marley, Bob Marley

    • I saw the same thing at pof a couple months ago. ( It probably was not the same woman, I’m in my 50s and near Montreal, she had long curly black hair and looked hispanic, was in her 40s )

      Part of it are not too bad but the part that is plain wrong is;

      if you give up , you are not worthy.

      maybe he has good reasons to give up? maybe he found serious defects in that woman ? maybe she has a very short temper, maybe she hates giving blow jobs, maybe she is unfaithful etc…

      maybe he has good reasons to give up on her, but in this day and age women refuse to be accountable for anything

      spin hamster spin…

  29. Jason says:

    I slap my wife on ass a lot. But once, after a few too many drinks, I whacked my brother-in-law’s hot girlfriend on the ass so hard it stung my hand.

    She loved it too — apparently he never did that — and then she started giving me lots of IOIs from that day forward.

    Thank GOD they broke up.

    • …Thank GOD they broke up…

      why?

      so you can do her now?

      or because you are happy she is gone?

    • Matthew King says:

      Good stuff. It could have been the pebble that started the avalanche of the break up.

      I know it’s not popular here, but I feel for the brother-in-law. Bros before hos. Always and in everything. On the other hand, you were instructing him by example, but with the huge obstacle of male pride standing in the way. Even if you were righteously showing him how it’s done, you inspire more jealous rage than you inspire emulation, self-examination, and reform. So we must teach with humility, and let all men know we ultimately are on their side against the scourge-blessing of unrestrained hypergamy.

      The word must get out to the masses, and the masses must begin slapping asses.

      Matt

  30. dannyfrom504 says:

    sometimes you learn the most about the venusian arts by watching other men fail at it.

  31. Phillyastro says:

    Kissing the top of a woman’s head is only acceptable during a dwarf-job.

  32. MadMav says:

    I’ll stick with the public crotch grab! Gives my girl the tingles!

  33. hbdeeeee says:

    I know you kids LOVE LOVE LOVE the racial stuff, so anyone have any info? My humble ordering of women’s torso length to leg length ratio for a smattering of groups, from greatest to least:

    east asian
    central american
    south american
    baltic
    western european
    russian
    scandanavian

    Just realized maybe why you don’t see asian or latina dancers much. And all the greats were russian.

  34. Doc says:

    Women enjoy being treated like women – smack them on the butt when the get close and they will cream their jeans. Let her know that when you get home those jeans are going to be around her ankles and you’ll be riding her like the broncho she is and she’ll be happy… Too many men act like sheep rather than the bulls they are meant to be…

  35. earl says:

    You know one of the most beta thing to do…samesiders.

    The guys that sit on the same side of the booth or table as their ladies in restaurants…leaving the other side empty.

    • Kate says:

      If I like the guy, I like same side sitting. I read once that you should never sit opposite a man as its too adversarial. If the table permits it, I’ll sit to one side of a man instead of across from him. It promotes more natural eye contact.

      • Jason says:

        Very true. Perpendicular seating is best for men.

        • Kate says:

          Its fascinating stuff, really. In interview situations, its recommended that, if seated across from a male interviewer, you at least move your chair to be on a bit of an angle or angle your body a bit to one side. In teaching, again, it is recommended that you speak/stand from the side when working one-on-one with a male student.

    • gunslingergregi says:

      if that’s beta i’m happily beta to the bone

      • gunslingergregi says:

        I can count how many dudes sit with chicks on same side on my hand he he he
        so ahh would seem the across from each other sitting like pals is normal

    • Greg Eliot says:

      I’m one of the original samesiders.

      Beta you say?

      Watch The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea and become wise, grasshopper.

  36. YaReally says:

    I am allllll about the PDA. Love it. The more blatant and obnoxious and inappropriate, the better.

    When I’m out with a girl there’s almost no time where my hand isn’t on the small of her back or around her shoulder or cuddling her with my arms wrapped around her from behind while we chit-chat with whoever, or my fingers stroking her back or thigh or holding hands as we walk. I have Asian friends who don’t even sit beside their girl when we’re out, they’re so asexual it’s surreal to me. You would never guess which of then are actually together.

    I love causing a scene with PDAs. I am the couple making out in completely inappropriate public places while you whisper “ugh they should get a room”. I’m the annoying couple on the dance floor who everyone has to give a wide berth because we’re bumping into everyone as we raunchily suck face and I carry her, legs wrapped around my waist, to pin her against a wall like nobody around us exists. I’m the couple who comes back from the bathroom with sex hair and untucked shirts. I’m the couple who everyone in the room is talking about by the end of the night, the guys talking smack and the girls verbally agreeing but not being able to take their eyes off us because they secretly wish their man had the balls to not give a shit what anyone thinks and just take them.

    But the difference is that my PDAs are done in an alpha way, like I’m claiming ownership of her, vs begging for her attention. And my PDAs are reciprocated instead of looked at as an embarrassing hassle. I remember some show where the chick said her favorite thing about her dude was how he’d reach his hand back for her to take, without looking back at her, like he just knew she’d take it and she could trust him to lead them. It’s that kind of thing. Plus I can handle any of the shit-talk people say to us (from “ugh could you guys knock it off?” complaints to “WOO!! Nice!!” cheers) and I create a “bubble of love” feeling for her, where she falls into my frame that nobody else matters. While she wouldn’t normally be PDA’ing like that, my frame of “no, fuck everyone else, they’re jealous of us and WISH they wanted eachother this bad” is transferred to her via “what you feel, she feels”.

    The funny part to me that I noticed when I had my first GF and was first hanging out with her friends, is that say we’d all go out to a bar for drinks, like 3 or 4 of us couples. By displaying massive PDAs unashamedly from the minute I walk in, at first the couples are all sitting away from eachother, like polite zero PDA type shit…then they act kind of grossed out or roll their eyes at us. But as the night goes on, the girls start being more and more jealous of my girl and craving that kind of affection from their guy. By the end of the night those frigid couples are making out like teenagers, all horny as fuck, and when we all head home I imagine they all go home to fuck eachother’s brains out.

    This is really consistent and you can see the same psyche phenomenon with other things. Like this dancing guy:

    You’ll see this same thing in bars every weekend…no one wants to be the first on the dance floor. Till the drunk bachelorette chicks go out there and unapologetically embarrass themselves…THEN everyone else will jump in. They set the precedent that its okay to dance.

    Same with like, food at a function…everyone’s hungry but no one wants to be the first to take food. Once the obnoxious fat guy storms in going “sweet, free food!!” and unapologetically scoops some up, everyone feels like they have permission to as well.

    I’m doing the same thing but with a sexual theme. Leading and unapologetically setting the precedent that “it’s okay to touch and kiss your girl at this table, it’s fine to be turned on, don’t be embarrassed about your sexuality here, there’s no judgement”. The rest of the people around us follow my lead and everyone finds themselves acting way out of normal character, to the point where the next day they’re almost confused/embarrassed about how raunchy they behaved in public because they don’t normally do that an they’re no longer in the bubble where it felt fine so they’re like “I don’t know what came over us!!”

    Anyway, there’s my vote in favor of PDAs lol Now it’s Friday night so I’m off to go make people roll their eyes and mutter “get a room”. :D

    • Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh says:

      I’m the first follower of YaReally’s dancing prose.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      That’s why WN is doomed to failure… we just can’t bring ourselves to lure in those much-vaunted “first followers” with tribal music.

      LLOOZOZOZLZLZLZLZOZOZOZLZLZL

      • gunslingergregi says:

        as long as most of the white alphas become successful in society yea kind of
        cause they got shit to lose

      • Matthew King says:

        Some look for leadership at homo music halls and hippie folk festivals. Groovy sweaty jungle mass action, like a sudden bacterial infection. This is crowd movement precipitated by impulsive instinct, and it’s as reliable as a mood swing, a primitive commitment that gathers in an instant and dissipates just as quickly. Hence flash mobs, NBA riots, and club frottage. It’s not a surprise the narrator sounds like an extra from Glee.

        Others organize at Tun Tavern. Instinct disciplined, power focused, chain-of-command decisive. The reason why 1/50th the number of cops in riot gear can bend an unruly crowd to their wishes. Children who only understand liberation from their parents imagine that liberty is doing whatever an individual’s momentary whim commands — truly, just an advanced form of slavery to one’s passions — rather than the discipline to transcend controlling forces one otherwise pretends don’t exist — the freedom of the athlete on the field who spends 90% of his time in grueling training. “Liberty is the prevention of control by others. This requires self-control… Liberty is not the power of doing what we like, but the right of being able to do what we ought” (Acton).

        Whatever the pseudocourage of getting over one’s phobia of public judgment, there’s a difference between leadership and inspired mimicry. But this is an old disagreement here.

        Matt

        • thwack says:

          “This is crowd movement precipitated by impulsive instinct,”
          ————————————————————————-
          or maybe they have some black in them?

          OT, for those who “don’t get” Great Books For Men (GBFM), especially the connection between money manipulation and your girls whore like behavior… This woman is clarifying the same point. When people devalue themselves and each other, no amount of “money” can ever make them rich.

          • Matthew King says:

            They have much black in them. Unchained Djangos. Now put the chains of discipline on them and you can make a fine dark-green Marine out of their swarthy side.

        • yeahokcool says:

          @matt. So bars/clubs and music festivals are for homos? A man should only drink at a tavern? Will you meet girls at tavern? If not, where should you meet girls so that you can fall in love and get married or whatever else you want? What steps do you take? You shouldn’t want to become less concerned about the judgment of others? What, exactly, are you proposing? I mean no insult (this time). I truly have no idea what you are trying to tell us. You have all these ideals. Great. Are any of them related to picking up women?

          • Matthew King says:

            The topic is leadership, not leadership in the service of women. Your obsession with the nitty gritty of pick-up — and your weird, hyperactive, and instantaneous condemnation of anything not related to that entry-level discipline (THIS IS A PICK-UP SITE! DO NOT READ IF YOU DO NOT LOVE BATHING IN PUA MINUTIAE! ALL MUST SHRUG AT THE POSTS ON KOREA AND PUTIN AND SCIENCE LIKE AN ALOOF COOLGUY.) — is an odor which turns off women that a whole can of Axe cannot cover. This is what I mean about PUA.com nerdliness.

            Some men are men, and the women follow. That’s a high-level status which by definition cannot be taught to a general, frustrated-chump audience. Others mimic manliness to harvest drunk dupes. The details of your mimicry are useful to many rising betas here, and I don’t challenge them or gainsay them or frankly much care about them. It’s only when you think your obsession with a subset makes you believe you are masters of the whole.

            Not “a” tavern. Tun Tavern. Look it up, comment roadie.

            Matt

          • yeahokcool says:

            I know the reference. That was my point. How are you going to meet girls at a bar that doesn’t exist anymore? You make proclamations constantly but you have nothing to back them up. It isn’t so much that your ideals are off, but you are completely lacking in practical wherewithal. You are the worst kind of sophist. Did your parents homeschool you?

          • Matthew King says:

            Did somebody fart in here?

          • gunslingergregi says:

            there is another side to life other than clubs like the events and shit
            you know like when I was in dc at a hotel people all in suits and no minorities except woman

    • Lily says:

      YaReally, I like PDA with class. What you’re describing (most, not all) is trashy classless shit. It’s also too slapstick – “I am the couple making out in completely inappropriate public places while you whisper “ugh they should get a room”. I’m the annoying couple on the dance floor who everyone has to give a wide berth because we’re bumping into everyone as we raunchily suck face and I carry her, legs wrapped around my waist, to pin her against a wall like nobody around us exists.”

      It sounds like you’re trying too hard to entertain her. Act like a man – that should be enough to generate gina tingles. Who are you dating, immature 14 year olds in the school bus?

      “But the difference is that my PDAs are done in an alpha way, like I’m claiming ownership of her, vs begging for her attention. “

      Not really. Calming ownership of a woman isn’t done by making a fool of yourself or acting clownish. And BTW, what woman wants to be owned by a PUA who acts like a street clown with a new girl every week? A woman wants to have a real master, not a clown. You’re only acting like this because you’re trying to be over the top so that she sleeps with you (women are stupid, they think a guy being fun is a good reason to sleep with him). You’re catering to her. With a real GF all you need to do is classy alpha moves (like your hand on the small of her back, or slapping her butt in public but in a discreet way) without having to act like a circus clown in front of the whole world in hopes of getting into her pants.

      Oh, Oh……..i said I was going to be softer to you, but this comment sent me into a tailspin. Honestly, YaReally, please think before you write some of this advice you give the impressionable chaps over here who think they have to act like a rooster cracking for the sake of his prey ‘look at me, look at me, I’m alpha as shit’.

    • Bill says:

      Hmmm. You sound like a Negro. Typically they confuse low class ostentatiousness with displays of dominance.

  37. gunslingergregi says:

    I love causing a scene with PDAs. I am the couple making out in completely inappropriate public places while you whisper “ugh they should get a room”. I’m the annoying couple on the dance floor who everyone has to give a wide berth because we’re bumping into everyone as we raunchily suck face and I carry her, legs wrapped around my waist, to pin her against a wall like nobody around us exists. I’m the couple who comes back from the bathroom with sex hair and untucked shirts. I’m the couple who everyone in the room is talking about by the end of the night, the guys talking smack and the girls verbally agreeing but not being able to take their eyes off us because they secretly wish their man had the balls to not give a shit what anyone thinks and just take them”””””””””

    yea i’m feeling that

  38. […] Nauseating Beta Male ODA […]

  39. walawala says:

    This Beta ODA thing is huge in Hong Kong. Local guys are always doing this with their very often homely girlfriends. They think it’s affectionate but the impact is one of neediness.

  40. Gracian says:

    Repeated overt displays of affection = Mate guarding displays

    ….pretty pathetic, yet entertaining to observe. LOL!

    Just sayin….

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