There are those who doubt the efficacy of game on the premise that all important personality and behavioral traits, including those vital to attracting women, like charm, wit and a large, throbbing ego, are determined at birth. They don’t accept the idea that a man can change himself for the better, or the notion that genetic endowment is probabilistic rather than deterministic.
Although it’s wise for “nurture firsters” to admit the limits of their ideology and concede that the gene determinists have a point and have been heretofore cut off from the national conversation on matters of public policy, the latter have their advocates who also push their theory of everything too far. For instance, we know that men can influence their behavioral outcome and even their hormone levels by adopting “power poses”; that is, standing or sitting with the mien of an alpha male. This is hard proof that “genes” and predispositions can be dampened, or amplified, by proactive behavioral changes. It is also proof that at least one aspect of game, as the term is understood to mean learned and applied charisma, does work to alter women’s perceptions of men’s mate value.
Now there is more ♥♥♥ scientific evidence ♥♥♥ lending validity to another core concept of game: faking it till you make it works.
People do transform their lives, every day. But for the most part they don’t do it by relying on willpower. The key, it turns out, is to simply start behaving like the person you want to become. Instead of wondering, What should I do?, imagine your future, better self and ask: What would they do?This approach works because of the rather surprising way that our brains form self-judgments. Numerous experiments have demonstrated that when it comes to forming beliefs about our own character and proclivities, we don’t peer inward, as you might expect; instead, we observe our own external behavior. If we see ourselves carrying out a particular action—whatever the actual motivation—our self-conception molds itself to explain that reality.
In one experiment, a researcher asked a group of subjects to take part in a bogus experiment and allowed them to win a sum of money. Afterward the researcher went up to the subjects and told them that he’d had to use his own paltry funds to subsidize the experiment; apologizing, he asked if they wouldn’t mind giving the money back, so he could continue his research. A second group of subjects performed the exact same bogus experiment and won the same prize money—but weren’t asked to give the money back. Finally, all of the experimental subjects were asked to subjectively rate the researcher’s likeability. It turned out that the ones who’d given back their prize money liked him a lot better. The reason: in order to explain our behavior to ourselves, we have to make assumptions about our own proclivities. I gave the guy money, the subjects subconsciously reasoned, so I must have liked him.
Likewise, the most effective way to move toward change is to act like you’ve already achieved it. Don’t worry about playing mind-games with yourself. Don’t worry about affirmations. The way to become a fit person is to act like one. I’ve always found that the hardest part of exercising—the only hard part, really—is putting on my sneakers. Once they’re on, there’s pretty much a 100 percent chance of getting some form of workout done. Why else would I have these shoes on?
You are a ladies’ man. Start acting like it, and you will in fact become the ladies’ man ladies love.
Obviously, you can’t change your internal reality overnight. But act out the change you want, and day by day, the weight of evidence will become undeniable. Before long, the person you pretend to be becomes the person that you are. In one experiment, researchers recruited subjects who said they wanted to learn one new habit, and asked them perform the new behavior every day. After 60 days, most of them rated the newly learned habit as effortless to perform. What had once been a desired change was now an accepted reality.
What had once been a beta male, was now an alpha male reality.
Game is like any other self-improvement endeavor. You “assume the pose”, you practice it relentlessly, and you make it a habit, like brushing your teeth. If you had never picked up a toothbrush, your teeth would be rotting and falling out today. But you ignored your naturally lazy ways, picked up a toothbrush and used it everyday, until it became habitual and second-nature. You stopped thinking about brushing your teeth, and now you have a gleaming row of choppers as a reward. It’s the same with learning the habits of applied male charisma that women can’t resist. You actively incorporate the trappings of alpha male behavior and attitude into your life until it becomes a real part of you, and then you have a gleaming row of sexually aroused women as a reward.
Awesome.
Instead of wondering, What should I do?, imagine your future, better self and ask: What would they do?
Kurt Vonnegut wrote a short story, called Mother Night, the moral of which was, “We are who we pretend to be…”*
Apparently this sort of idea was also rather prevalent back circa 1776, and George Washington in particular felt it to be imperative that he always ACT the part of the nation’s leader.
And even in something as straightforward as classical business etiquette, young up-and-comers have always been advised to “dress the part” [especially if they wanted to have any chance at being taken seriously].
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*Full citation from Wikipedia: “We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”
As a minor adjunct to this moral, Vonnegut later offers the observation that “When you’re dead, you’re dead.” The author then pauses and says, “And yet another moral occurs to me now; Make love when you can. It’s good for you.”
George Washington Reconsidered
Edited by Don Higginbotham
University of Virginia Press, Mar 1, 2001
Page 315: All the Founding Fathers were aware of these enlightened conventions, and all in varying degrees tried to live up to them. But no one was more serious in following them than Washington. It is this purposefulness that gave his behavior such a copybook character. He was obsessed with having things in fashion and was fastidious about his appearance to the world. It was as if he were always on stage, acting a part. He was very desirous not to offend, and he exquisitely shaped his remarks to fit the person to whom he was writing – so much so that some historians have accused him of deceit…
He wanted desperately to know what were the proper rules of behavior for a liberal gentleman, and when he discovered those rules he stuck by them with an earnestness that awed his contemporaries. His remarkable formality and stiffness in company came from his very self-conscious cultivation of what he considered proper, genteel, classical behavior…
“Kurt Vonnegut wrote a short story, called Mother Night, the moral of which was, “We are who we pretend to be…””
Or…
Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity
And in the end we are what we pretend to be
– Jerry Cantrell, “Give It A Name”
This is true to an extent, but there are limits: developing a habit such as going to the gym regularly is qualitatively different than giving yourself a personality transplant. Neil Strauss’s maxim “Be your best self” comes to mind: focus efforts on developing the more appealing or masculine parts of your personality, and manage or minimize the less appealing aspects- while realizing you’re not going to totally reinvent yourself.
More important than specific actions or habits is the overall game worldview- “inner game” mentality, “I am the prize”, “abundance vs scarcity”, etc. This doesn’t necessarily contradict the essential point of the post, though.
Or in other words, CH Commandment XII.
Yup. Note how that doesn’t mean standing in a certain supposedly alpha manner, or whatever, in order to cultivate self-confidence. It’s knowing yourself and how you come across to others, and the awareness of that and how to emphasize your strengths- not manufacture them.
I get what you’re saying, but there are times where certain things have to be “manufactured.” Take body language for instance. What if you just don’t have many strengths in that area to rely on? What if you naturally cower, lean your head on your girl’s shoulder, display nervous tics, and walk hunched over? You should work on correcting those things.
To me, the maximize your strengths advice has more to do with your talents and passions than it does the fundamentals of attracting women. If you’re lacking in one of those fundamentals (like body language), then by all means, start teaching yourself new habits and behaviors.
Off topic, but relevant nonetheless for CH and fellow readers. Regarding a girl I’ve been banging for a couple of months.
Her: “I can’t make it tonight,” blah blah blah. Sorry.”
Me: “That’s good. I didn’t want to get you pregnant.”
Her: “You always know what to say to me. We will more than make up for it.”
We banged the next night, of course. Field tested approved.
My main found a bracelet on top of my microwave that wasn’t hers.
Her: Whose is this ?
Me: Linda’s ,
Her : Who’s Linda ?
Me: Maybe it was Lydia ?
Her :Who the fuck is Lydia ?
Me: Some chick.
Her : What was she doing here ?
Me : Hangin’ out.
Her : Why ?
Me : …Because I don’t wanna get you pregnant.
Her eyes darted round in their sockets , it was one of those moments where you could actually see the smoke coming off the hamster wheel. She flipped out for a few minutes, bitching and hysterics ensued. I thought she would break something. I remained calm.
Eventually.
Me : If this what you came here for, you should leave.
Her *Sobbing* : What do I have to do ?
Me *motioning towards the door* : What do you want to do ?
She wrapped her arms around me getting tears and snot on one of my luckiest shirts.
Her : What do I have to do to keep you happy ?
Me : I’m sure we’ll think of something.
We skipped dinner in favor of the bedroom. She demanded the raw dog . I’ve known this girl a year and saw a side of her that night I didn’t know was there.
Concur on the field test.
But even if it fails it’s fun to say.
“…saw a side of her that night I didnt know was there.” Wow,powerful sentence.
nice job guys on the line try out
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Her : What do I have to do to keep you happy ?
”””””’
that’s hot
I get the I did that to make you happy
sounds like you need to demand more from her if its a side you have never seen I think it means you can up way up what you expect out of her and making her jump through more hoops she will be happier for it in making it known what she has to do
have more epectations like the side you never saw you can get even more
Had you slept with her before or was this the first time?
Best post in weeks. Good job man.
Great post. Reminds me of the alpha male posture poses, like contraposto, from back in the day. I think this blog singlehandedly created a viral sensation out of that cat sitting on a curb like a boss.
These postural movements do make a massive difference over time. A couple of researchers actually demonstrated that these postures do influence neurophysiology, cortisol and testosterone. I’m pretty sure the Chateau’s already read and linked to this article, but for those who might have missed it, here it is:
http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/dana_carney/power.poses.PS.2010.pdf
actually my link (just below) is simply a recap of the study you mentioned in a TED video lecture. She was one of the authors of the study you link
No wonder the article sounded familiar. I saw the Ted talk first, then the article, but didn’t pay that much attention to the co-authors.
These postural movements do make a massive difference over time. A couple of researchers actually demonstrated that these postures do influence neurophysiology, cortisol and testosterone.
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So those kneegro mannerisms have a scientific basis? Wow, whoda thunk.
and yet more scientific support from an academic (science part starts at about minute 10 but the whole thing is good). All of this along with the Dana Carney is enough to spur a sceptic, even a lazy sceptic, or a lazy person period, to action): http://www.ted.com/talks/amy_cuddy_your_body_language_shapes_who_you_are.html
That was a great TED talk. This stuff is powerful–committing to it fully can really change one’s life.
I thought women had an innate sense as to whether a guy was getting laid or not. Does fake it till you make it apply to incels?
It applies to everyone. Let’s restate it to: fake it till you become it.
Yes, woman can probably subconsciously smell celibacy, in literal terms, on a man based on his pheromones, but that’s why there’s a market for escorts, and for pheromone products.
Those pheromone products always seemed like fraud to me. Is there any solid research on that?
Sex Panther DOES work 60% of the time every time.
Brilliant
You sound like Yogii Berra.
Here’s a decent literature review on human pheromone activity that’s easily found with some quick google-fu:
http://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/UBNRP/pheromone10/human%20pheromones.html
Long story short, there does appear to be some decent human research that phermones can affect mood for the better for anyone who is exposed to them, meaning both the wearer and anyone who comes within olfactory range.
I’ve got a gift certificate from a company that makes them, but haven’t been arsed to spend the time to figure out the right ones try, on them partly because my own pheromones seem pretty damned strong, and partly because there are so many to choose from. At some point I may pick a few to try out for shits & giggles.
Depends.
A few weeks ago A.B. Dada was talking about his belief in human pheromones, a GNO organ or something, IIRC.
From what I’ve been able to gather, humans do indeed produce pheromones. However, unlike most animals, humans do not have any pheromone receptors. In effect, we’re transmitting but there aren’t any receivers.
There’s an important phrase that we use here, and I think it’s time that you all learned it. “Act as if.” You understand what that means? Act as if you got a 9″ cock. Okay? “Act as if.”
Dorothea Brande.
Walk into the club like
What up I got a big cock
Fake it till you splay it.
Hahahahaha! That’s the money shot, right there!
That was the whole plot line to the movie “Fight Club”.
i was a geek until i hit 7th grade and started skateboarding. then i discoverd pussy.
http://dannyfrom504.wordpress.com/2013/04/03/how-punk-and-skateboarding-killed-a-omega-child/
it took some time but i finally figured it.
http://dannyfrom504.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/on-being-excellent/</a.
I need some advice from CH readers! I’ve been doing my best as the article states to become the ladies man I’ve always pictured myself being. I’m now bedding more and better quality women.
My sis has a hot-9 friend that just broke off an engagement. I’ve always had a crush on her and I know she eyes me from time to time. Especially since I rejected her approaches years ago – had a girlfriend at the time (was being beta but the rejection was so alpha). Our paths never cross, but we are both going to my sis’ wedding in the next few months. To spark things up I contacted her on FB where she likes every second post or picture I put up. I’ve never msged her or liked anything of hers… ever.
Me:Hey I didn’t know you guys have a plane? You get to fly it much?!
-Same day-
Her: Hey you! How’s it going? And yes my dad flies…blah blah …I do once a month or so.
-3 days later-
Me: Oh cool, so you’re in real estate right? Has your dad ever let you land?!
-One week later-
Her: Yeah, blah blah.. You back in the city too? Soooo excited for your sisters wedding in a few months!!! You bringing a hot date?!
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How long should I wait to reply and what should I say? Do I avoid her last question completely or should I suggest that I’m going alone with full intentions of nailing her or any other of my sister’s ridiculously hot friends?
I’m usually pretty good at the indifferent txt/fb game but I feel like I’m over thinking shit here. In the past if I made a mistake I wouldn’t give a shit but I really want to bed this one!! What do I say and how do I form it guys? Thank for the help!!
Her: Bringing a hot date?
You: It’s complicated.
Anytime I’ve ever had a girl respond to me with “Hey You” I knew she was dtf. Something about Hey You.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. It’s code for ” Hey (I want to bang) you!” It’s funny when it comes from women from work or other people that are supposed to be “off limits.”
^ So true.
Her: Bringing a hot date?!
Me: You
lol no. perfect example that you have no idea what you’re talking about. way too twee and try-hard. say goodbye to her girlboner with that comment
Look. A new lovelorn groupie. Nipping at my ankles for attention again. How precious.
ha i got under your skin with that one
Respect you Matt, but that was a definite fail.
Otherwise, get it off FaceterbationBook asap.
Matthew King: “Otherwise, get it off FaceterbationBook asap.”
Yeah, in fact, a good reply to her at this point would be something along the lines of, “Hey, let’s take this thing private.”
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yeahokcool: “i agree with you, shane, but even if he intends to marry her, he should still keep it reigned in.”
Right.
If you are going to be her mate for life, then, among other things, you will need to be her own personal Rock of Gibraltar.
So just because you’re [secretly] head-over-heels in love with her, that doesn’t mean that you’re suddenly going to turn into an herbling beta loser wimp.
You’re in love, but you’re still The Rock.
Fuck – that’s all out of order.
Sorry, my bad.
In the past if I made a mistake I wouldn’t give a shit but I really want to bed this one!!
A) Continue to at least act as though you don’t care if you make a mistake.
B) If she’s really all that, then here’s a novel idea: How about pursuing her with the intention of MARRYING her?!?
Then make six or eight or ten babies with her and live happily ever after.
It sounds like this chick could be special – don’t let the nihilism of game cause you to turn her into just another notch on the bedpost, and miss out on something good.
i agree with you, shane, but even if he intends to marry her, he should still keep it reigned in.
You can marry her after you fuck her.
right. i’d advise against the marriage thing, but, regardless of what his long-term plan is, he still has to use the same strategy.
Agreed.
yeahokcool: “i agree with you, shane, but even if he intends to marry her, he should still keep it reigned in.”
Right.
If you are going to be her mate for life, then, among other things, you will need to be her own personal Rock of Gibraltar.
So just because you’re [secretly] head-over-heels in love with her, that doesn’t mean that you’re suddenly going to turn into an herbling beta loser wimp.
You’re in love, but you’re still The Rock.
Oh man, don’t use the m-word in front of these There-But-For-The-Grace-of-Alpha-Go-I types. It makes them shit their pants in protest. Like a digestive-reflex poop.
there is really no purpose to marriage anymore
this chick about to change her last name to mine but we ain’t got to get married to do it he he he
Just beware of common law.
There’s marriage and marriage 2.0.
You can do better than that.
The only possibly legitimate PURPOSE of Game is that it teaches you the tools you will need to have in your arsenal in order to bag [and retain] the girl of your dreams as your wife and the mother of your children.
Without that – wife and children – as the end result, Game is just another form of purposeless soul-destroying species-extincting nihilism.
“The only possibly legitimate PURPOSE of Game is ……….to bag [and retain] the girl of your dreams ……”
Clear thinking.
As I mentioned in the “5 minute” thread, at the end of the day many of those alphas are not really alphas, they just learned to act like it. They’re nobodies. They just act like they’re larger than life, or God’s gift to women, and women eat this shit up because they are stupid and they fall for the act, just as they misinterpret sex as love.
In fact, many of those supposed alphas don’t even amount to much, which means that they are just alphas in the minds of the women they fucked. So faking it is indeed a good plan because it works on women, as well as affecting a man’s T. T creates a cycle – the more women respond to you like you’re a sexy alpha, the more T you’ll produce.
I just wished women were not such stupid dupes. It even goes beyond naiveté. Naiveté implies a sort of innocence and is forgivable, but women today have no innocence just stupidity and lack of common sense they acquired from listening to feminists as they shed their grandmother’s wisdom – as my mom says, even mothers are stupid nowadays.
Anyway, I’m all for men acting like alphas and not falling for feminists’ bullshit that tells them to become beta’s in order to please women. I just hope the men here preach more broad alphaness instead of only the YaReally approach of bar hopping, fucking and dumping. That’s not alpha.
So an alpha does what’s good for you instead of doing what he enjoys? Yeah, right.
Wait a minute, where did I say anything about doing what’s good for me? You sure have reading miscomprehension. In fact, I said I am all for a man acting confident and alpha-like on the outside if it’s going to influence him on the inside. Much of our behavior works like this anyway, so why would I knock it? For instance, if you went to a job interview and didn’t act like the best man for the job, how would you get your potential employer excited about hiring you as opposed to hiring someone else? I just added that using this tactic in the interest of only barhopping and picking up easy women who already are not too smart to begin with, doesn’t constitute alpha. Matt is right on target when he says your pickup artistry doesn’t make you alphas; alpha is a lot more complicated than barhopping and picking up sluts. You’re mislabeling and misleading; don’t call yourselves alphas, call yourselves PUA’s. It’s more accurate.
Anyway, if women weren’t so simple-minded, falling for guys who weren’t anything special except knew the art of the pickup and somewhat dominant sex, men like you wouldn’t have anything to be proud of; you wouldn’t know how to get a woman to bed you if your lives were dependent on it, let alone marry a decent woman – it takes a real man to get a quality girl to fall in love with him. At this point, all you’re doing is feeding off feminism that has made it easy for you to grab low hanging fruit of easy lays – women with no standards, so they don’t respect their bodies or sex and give it away to many men. Don’t be upset with the truth; it’s women who make your job so easy. Without women’s stupidity, you’d be out of the pick up business and probably looking for wives.
Now let’s see how alpha you are? What do you have to offer a wife? Barhopping and picking her up?
This is about “pick up” to them, not alpha. When they encounter alpha, they fall back on old omega trickery and bitterness. Comforting habits die hard. Alpha is not a disposition within the range of their comprehension much less their genuine attainment. “Faking” outward qualities in the perpetual hope of “making it” eventually turns a man’s life into a fraud without his knowing.
So don’t insert yourself into the blast radius of a frenetic circle jerk. Unless you’re into bukkake.
“Faking” outward qualities in the perpetual hope of “making it” eventually turns a man’s life into a fraud without his knowing.”
…you didn’t read the article…did you…
I’m not so much against the faking, cuz in the absence of having why not fake in the hopes of getting? But everything else you said is right on target. You understand these guys’ mentality, and that’s why they get so annoyed.
Bukkake???? I had to look that up.
She wants to fuck you. Asking about your date is a big give-away. So you don’t really have to do much at this point. You could probably ignore her completely till the wedding and be fine if you just be sexual in person and isolate her and escalate as the night goes on.
But if I were responding I’d do something like: “I haven’t decided yet. I don’t want you two cat-fighting over me all night. Although if we could find a tub of jell-o and some bikinis…” where the answer is ambiguous so she still gets some “will he have a girl or won’t he?? Should i bring a date?? I’d better do myself up incase I have to compete with a girl” hamster anxiety to keep her busy, and I’m also assuming attraction on her end, and I’m taking the flirting to a sexual place instead of talking about her family’s plane collection.
Note that I wouldn’t go flat-out sexual on facebook, like trying to get into dirty-talk, because there’s no need to. You know she’s into you and that she’ll be at the wedding where you’ll probably have solid logistics to isolate her. If you go TOO sexual before you’re face to face you might trigger her ASD and get a lot more resistance because she doesn’t want you to think she’s easy.
Then at the wedding when I don’t have a date I’d just say “no, I decided it was too dangerous, you’re feisty when you drink and you’d probably scratch her hair out. Besides, if you’re leaving scratch-marks on anyone’s body tonight, I’d rather it was mine.
” to let her know we’ll be having sex later, and then just casually flirt thru the night to build the sexual tension (eye-fuck her during the speeches, bump into her bum with yours at the buffet table and tell her to quit bumping into you, reach for a wine glass or whatever blatantly reaching around her as your bodies rub and you give a mock “oh, I’m sorry, you’re just in my way is all 
”, give her a slow-dance or two with lots of eye-contact and kino, etc) till I can isolate her and escalate (usually as weddings die down there’s plenty of opportunities to isolate…walking her to her hotel room, exploring the venue, walking to find a cab together, etc etc).
I’d swipe a bottle of wine or something leftover as the wedding shuts down (you’re the brother of the bride, you can do anything you want, but tip the bartender or whoever well so you don’t shit on their night) and tell her “come with me we’re going on an adventure” as I grab her by the hand and whisk her off to a quiet part of the venue/hotel and share the bottle as we cuddle and escalate. I’d scope out at the start of the night if the stairwell lets you get up to the roof so you can take her up there with the wine to slow-dance on the roof to some gay romantic music playing on your phone.
Don’t stress it too much. This is a done deal, she’s already into you. Save all your “big” moves for the wedding day.
Screenplay writing as advice.
She already indicated interest, but only in the ultrasafe, cost-free environment of Facebook. You tease that interest into a place where her surroundings compel her to commit. If she remains standoffish, you play the hand you have (text game) and raise her temperature (expectations) for the moment when you will see her outside the protection of text/FB, where you can better play aloof: the wedding.
Everything but this general advice is too situation-contingent. No plan survives contact with the opposition.
Matt
The “screenplay” comment reveals a lot about you. It may seem like a screenplay to you because it isn’t real to you. Its inchoate. Ethereal. A dream. Simply put, you haven’t lived it. All you have is theory and stuff that you have read and that’s why you offer up some generic (largely inadequate) advice that reads more like a overwrought textbook than real world advice. That isn’t the case with yareally. He writes the detail because he lived it. And done it. More than once. And you know what else will piss you off? I’ve done it, too. And, worse for you, it looks and feels as good as it reads. As they say, afterall, write what you know… And you, you know very little about this topic.
@yeahokcool
Eeeeeeeverything you said. I’m glad I read your response before writing mine because it would’ve been the same thing. Especially this part:
“He writes the detail because he lived it. And done it. More than once. And you know what else will piss you off? I’ve done it, too. And, worse for you, it looks and feels as good as it reads”
This is screenplay fantasy to men who don’t go out. To me, it’s just Tuesday.
I actually specifically like creating little adventures with girls. Like I could get the lay without a lot of the fluff, but I have fun creating situations where we’ll both have an amazing memory of a crazy adventure that climaxes in sex, where I know that to her it’s like she just stepped into a movie.
Even if I fade away after and she never sees me again, I know no guy is going to top the memory she has of her time with me. I fully admit this is COMPLETELY ego-driven lol. Also telling girls about my adventures gets them excited because they sound like so much fun and they realize I’m a guy that pro-actively makes that stuff happen…if they qualify. So these creative lays help me get future lays.
But yes, my life and my experiences with women are like a screenplay, I’m glad you noticed Matt. I mean you didn’t think these girls were sleeping with me for my 6-pack and and million dollar mansion, did you? All women want from a man is for him to make them feel alive and to take them on an emotional rollercoaster.
Matt
Will you shut the fuck up already.
Blind leading the blind. Boys teaching boys how to be “men” by fantasizing about what manliness is. This is the endgame of “I wanna be an astronaut when I grow up” without a father to slap some sense into a kid.
This is why I do blame your faggot/deadbeat/beta dads for your thinly-veiled pussitude as well as for the skankiness of their fat late-feminist daughters. You were made for each other, you deserve each other.
Yes, I will shut the fuck up. I just have to figure out a dignified way to remove myself from this sudden LARP convention.
Matt
Hey you
Hey Ya, I put in another FR, any general tips or advice appreciated. I know it takes awhile to break down every single interaction, but the general tips and tricks that you give are just as useful!
On it! I’ll try to get something up before the weekend for ya!
@YaReally. i know we’ve been estrokin’ each others’ egos today, but i can’t help but comment about how clutch this post is. your ability to cogently present plans that would actually work in real life is awesome. good for you, man. you know your shit and the fact that ch regularly uses your wisdom on this blog and on twitter should make obvious to all the naysayers that you’re legit
@Vagitarian. if you can figure out some way to implement yareally’s general “plan of attack” into your approach style, i’d recommend it highly. you don’t have to copy it exactly and, in fact, i’d recommend against it because you want it to be natural and not like a pre-scripted routine. just take the general ideas and imagine what would sound and look like what you’d say and do
that last sentence reads like shit, but you know what i mean
and, just to preempt greg and matt: “all your sentences read like shit, yeahokcool”
@yeahokcool
I heart you too lol
The plan of attack stuff is just how my mind works from spending time in the field and being burned enough times for not having a gameplan. I went into game from having zero experience seducing women so I was lucky enough not to have bad habits that a lot of guys have to break free of, when it comes to seduction. I didn’t have beliefs like “it should just happen” or “that’s too try-hard” or “I dunno I just feel like if its meant to be its meant to be”
So I read PUA stuff that stressed having a Day 2 plan and always be thinking about logistics and pushing toward an end-goal, and went “okay I guess that’s what works so that’s what I’ll learn to do!”
I think a lot of Manosphere guys don’t understand the importance of a solid plan or repeatable Day 2…so they get the attraction part right but they end up at a formal restaraunt with a large table between them and the girl on the other side of the city from where he lives and she has cockblocking roommates at her place. So they miss out on an opportunity that would’ve led to sex if they had instead taken the lead and brought the girl to a cozy little pub with booths to cuddle in that’s just up the street from their place where they’ve got music or a DVD and a bottle of girly alcohol all set up.
Now this stuff is instinctual for me. When I enter a new bar I’m looking at where the speakers are (where are the quiet places), where the hot girls are, which guys look like competition, where can I isolate for a makeout, where could I isolate for sex, how am I going to get a girl from the bar to a bed (cab, a friend driving, her place, my place, etc), are there couches to chill on with a girl, how big and crowded is the patio, etc.
In a normal public place I’m looking at where are the security cameras, how many security guys do they seem to have working and how far is their office from wherever I’m planning to bang, how much traffic uses the elevators and stairwells, are there areas of the parkade that I could isolate to, etc.
Then I’m looking at her logistics, who are her friends, which ones will cockblock, which ones will fuck off and leave us be, does she work in the morning, is she from out of town, can I escalate tonight or should I slow-play it etc etc.
It seems like a lot but like I say it’s all instinctual now and I can adapt on the fly to my circumstances. What I described would be my general plan but if it was de-railed I trust that from my experience I would be able to improvise a new equally awesome plan in the moment to get around whatever problems come up.
The important thing in the end is that to the girl the whole thing looks and feels like an adventure that “just happened”. She doesn’t know I peeked up the stairwell while everyone was still arriving, or that I threw a few gay romantic songs on my phone the night before. She just knows that she was whisked away by this charming fun charismatic attractive guy and suddenly she’s up on the rooftop slow dancing with him under a moonlit night like something out of a Ryan Gosling movie and he’s crazy and wild enough to fuck her on the roof and give her an adventure she can write a book about 50 years later.
Coincidentally just put up a relevant (and well written/explained as usual) article on having a plan:
http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/the-plan/
@YaReally, regarding kino: I recently went out for drinks with a girl from class who offered me her number. I assumed she must have liked me because of that, yet, she never returned me touching her. I started by just touching her arm, or knee. She never returned them, so I felt uncomfortable escalating further. Do you keep touching, and keep escalating even if she doesn’t return the favor? At what point do you just give up and quit?
In the end, the night went no where. I’m certain I got LJBF’d.
I’m still slowly figuring things out.
“At what point do you just give up and quit?”
If you want to have any chance with this girl, then, at this point, it is absolutely essential that you break off all contact COMPLETELY.
Do not text her, do not call her, do not Facebook her – NOTHING WHATSOEVER.
If you meet her in class, give her a polite but curt hello, and then act as if she’s no more important to you than the old fat prole-class maid who mops the floors on evening shift.
Have the discipline to allow your aloofness to draw her back to you.
And NEVER beg for the pussy – instead, tease her into begging for the cock.
It’s your only chance.
PS: It’s also possible that she’s simply asexual.
We talk a lot here at the Chateau about the gina tingles, but there are plenty of non-orgasmic chicks out there in the real world who just aren’t into it at all – who never get the tingles in the first place.
God bless their little hearts, but I imagine that most of them end up being either movement LGBT dykes or else just lonely miserable old housebound spinster cat-ladies.
@R1J2
“Women are a lagging indicator”:
So just assume attraction and keep going. She’ll stop you if she’s not into you. I’ve mentioned this to Scray but there are basically 3 responses from a girl: “into it”, “neutral”, “not into it”
Most guys won’t escalate unless they get “into it” and they lump “neutral” in with “not into it”, but actually “neutral” should be lumped in with “into it”.
There are a million reasons why a girl won’t reciprocate…shyness, inexperience, nervousness, fear of judgement, not being comfortable in the environment, not having an “excuse”, Anti-Slut Defense not allowing her to admit she wants sex, she might not be a public affection kind of girl, etc etc.
You basically plow forward with the idea that “what you feel, she’ll eventually feel”. So you take her non-reciprocation as “oh she’s just shy, of COURSE she’s into me, why wouldn’t she be? I’m just so awesome that she’s intimidated.” Eventually your frame will win out and when she’s comfortable enough, she’ll reciprocate.
She may be non-reciprocal literally all the way to the bedroom. It all depends on the girl. Just plow forward and assume its going awesome and don’t use her responses as your permission to continue.
If she gives you an actively negative response, pull back and figure out if you need to work on comfort/rapport or attraction or whatever, but take a neutral response as positive. She has plenty of time between meeting up and you putting your dick in her, to say “wel I have to go now” and bail, and if you get a negative response you stop (till you get more experience and can tell the difference between token resistance and actual resistance).
Now on the flip side there’s a chance your kino was awkward/weird. A lot of guys new to kino are awkward with it (like placing your hand on her shoulder from the front and then leaving it there as you talk to her, or looking at the place you’re going to touch, touching her because “oh I’m supposed to touch now” vs “I want to touch her”, etc) and it comes off unnatural and awkward…in which case you just want to work on your kino skills when you’re out gaming so that it becomes more natural.
Brad talks a bunch about kino in this video, give it a watch and think about how your kino looks/feels:
Good luck! Remember: she wouldn’t be out with you if there wasn’t some spark of attraction for you to work with.
In fact some really hot girls will purposely NOT give you any iois, just to see what you do (are you confident and will assume attraction from a hot girl, or are you looking for her validation?). Like that’s their shit-test to test your confidence. I’ve known a few girls who, when a guy approached, wouldn’t say anything and just stare at him for 30 seconds, to see what he’d do.
they’re seeing if he lives in his own strong reality (alpha behavior) or if he reacts to his environment and let’s it dictate his reality (chick/beta behavior). Girls are fascinating to me when it comes to stuff like this lol because it seems like insane behavior (if you like the guy why not just let him know?) but it makes COMPLETE sense in chick-logic.
“She may be non-reciprocal literally all the way to the bedroom”
An example of this that’s happened to myself when I started out and to buddies of mine and we laugh about it, is that I’ve had girls come over to “watch a movie” and they’ll have given me zero blatant iois (aside from coming over lol) and we’ll sit there and watch part of the movie and I try to put my arm around her and shit but she doesn’t really seem into it and maybe I’ve even kissed her once but she didn’t really kiss back enthusiastically etc and there was like zero reciprocation and I’d literally start thinking “well shit maybe she’s not into me, I guess we’ll just watch the movie…fuck it I want a drink then.”
I’d get up to get a drink and offer her one and come back to the couch expecting to be in for a long awkward movie siting on opposite sides of the couch from the chick…then she has one sip of a drink and bam, jumps my bones and I’m like “wtf???”
What was happening was that she needed an “excuse” to be slutty. So now she can rationalize sleeping with me so quickly as “well we were drinking and it just happened”. It doesn’t matter that she had literally ONE sip of alcohol and wasn’t actually drunk, she just needed that hang up to be dissolved before she could let loose.
Another common scenario is that we made out when we met but now she’s at my place on a day 2 and she’s all frigid and awkward and I’m doubting myself…only to find that as soon as she realizes I don’t think she’s “easy” and that I’m okay if we don’t have sex, suddenly she 180s and jumps me. She just didn’t want me to think she was easy because of our makeout and needed reassurance that she’d see me again if she put out. Once she had that, it was fine to let her sexual side loose.
This kind of thing happened to me enough that I learned what a lot of hang ups for girls are (like the stuff I mentioned above about why they might not reciprocate) so now I try to diffuse those things early on. So I’ll make sure we’re isolated when I escalate to take care of her fear of social judgement, I’ll make sure I have a couple beers in my fridge so she can blame alcohol, I’ll build more comfort/rapport if she’s naturally shy, I’ll talk about sex in a casual non-judgemental way if she’s inexperienced, if she thinks I’m a player who will just use her for sex I’ll drop my personal speech about how I like on-going relationships even if they’re casual and that I’m not really a pump n dump guy, if she’s looking for something casual and is worried I’ll be clingy I’ll drop my personal speech about enjoying my freedom in casual relationships and not owning eachother and being too dead inside to fall in love, etc.
Because I look to actively diffuse these hang ups early in the seduction, I don’t really get any resistance past a certain point. Like I can’t even comprehend walking into my apartment with a girl and NOT having sex with her. It’s just not something that happens anymore, because by the time we get back to my place I’ve already set a sexual frame and diffused all her worries and hang ups and she’s already feeling good about her decision to fuck me. It’s all smooth sailing once you’ve handled her hang ups…but figuring out WHAT her hang ups are is the tricky part, because they usually won’t tell you flat out. This is where experience comes in
The more or I read stuff like this and how you would handle that one commenter’s wedding chick, the more I realize how much I’ve got to learn and improve.
A woman is like a radio, just keep hitting her until you get a better reception.
lol @man man.
Good list of anti-ASD/LMR stuff here: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/248063?page=1#comment-963198
Bunch of tools for the toolbox. I really like importing comfort on credit if she thinks you’re gonna pump n dump:
4. I will IMPORT COMFORT ON CREDIT. This one is beautiful. I actually made this up myself although i’m sure others do this too. I realized that girls don’t feel bad about fucking if they’ve gone on a few dates with you because then it doesn’t feel cheap and they have more comfort and trust built up. I will generate this ON CREDIT by saying shit like, “I can tell [because of the special connection i feel] that we’re going to hang out a lot more in the future.
Thank you! I appreciate it. I just wish I’d known this earlier before I went out with this girl, but there’ll always be more women down the line…
good attitude.
Scoping the venue is money advice. See, it’s those little things that make the difference and make me believe what you write. You’re setting up the adventure – must dudes would just be thinking about setting up the opener.
Part of it is that I assume I’ll succeed, so I plan for it. Like I don’t go to the wedding thinking “I hope something will happen” or “I dunno maybe she’s just friendly” or “I wonder if we’ll have sex tonight…”
Instead I’m thinking “obviously she’s going to want to fuck me, so I’m going to need to make sure I have a secluded location for us to fuck in.” It’s a done deal in my mind, not a question. Sometimes it doesn’t work out but if it doesn’t, it won’t be due to a retarded lack of planning.
Part of it actually comes from how ashamed a guy is of his sexuality and sex in general. ie – is he fine and psyched to fuck, or is he blue pill conditioned to be “bashful” and have it all “just happen”?
It’s like a more extreme version of the difference between guys who go to the bar with a condom on them vs guys who go without a condom on them. One is going out with the mindset of “I’m going to need protection” and plans for it ahead of time, and the other is just hoping the universe hands him pussy if he’s lucky and somehow things work themselves out.
I carry 4 condoms lol 1 wallet, 3 jacket. Because I’ve run into situs where a condom gets wasted (rips, I take it off to get more head, etc) or we go for a 2nd round that night and then another the next day, etc etc. One of my Natural buddies carries a bunch on him too lol
Her: “you bringing a hot date?”
You: “Behave…or it’s the naughty corner for you young lady…”
Credit Krauser. Works for me every single time.
This sexualizes things without being overt. See how this goes for you.
Responses usually go off the rails with “Naughty corner? Oh…I like that…” etc etc..
Tip my hat to YaReally, but all were really good replies (except for that shit bs about marriage). Glad to have everyone confirm her interest because sometimes you just don’t see things like they are. As I said I’m normally a little better then this but this one has me really excited. YaReally presented an excellent game plan and I expect to take full advantage of my brotherly position at the wedding to make shit happen. Until then I’ll relax and do a slow burn until the wedding day. Thanks for the tips!!
Jesus H Christ, I pray to God almighty that she doesn’t end up in bed with a little cunt like you.
If she’s everything that you say she is, then she deserves far, far better than that.
@Zombie Shane
Maybe you should be reading a different blog like Jezebel. Why are you even here if this stuff upsets you so much? You don’t have to answer that, I don’t REALLY care lol
+1
Good luck! Remember that it’ll probably never go as smooth as you plan, but trust in your faculties to improvise…just keep these things in mind and figure out how to make them happen:
1) flirt lightly early on and establish a man to woman sexual frame, ie – you aren’t talking about puppy dogs and ice cream with her, you’re giving her the Alfie (check YouTube) look-over like she’s a piece of meat when you see her, you’re dropping some innuendo and implying that you’ll be sleeping together later, etc.
2) later in the night find a way to isolate her. Isolate her isolate her isolate her.
3) once you have her isolated, THEN bring in the harder escalation. Pull her around a corner away from everyone and pin her against the wall and kiss her and lock eyes and say “I’ve wanted to do that all night.” Ideally do that in some mini-isolation earlier in the night where you can go “okay let’s go back” and lead her back to the party so she can think about the kiss for another hour while you guys mingle. Then go for the bigger adventure-isolation later when you won’t have to return to the party and can keep the escalation momentum going.
4) FUCK HER. Don’t get her #, don’t make plans for a date…she will never look hotter than she does all done up for a wedding, and it’s societally acceptable behavior to drunkenly hook up at a wedding, AND she’s been into you for a long time, so you have a complete green light on this for the lay. In fact I would say she’s so looking forward to you fucking her that NOT going for the lay would be RUDE and MEAN of you lol
Have fun, I love weddings.
Do a search for Wedding Toasts. You have to nail this. Thank everyone for showing up (some have to travel far), then thank the staff, then thank the photographer, then get into why you think the bride will make a great addition to the family, then thank your bro and reminisce about good memories, and finish up with the toast wishing the new couple the best. Nail that and the girl will know you’re also a boss at public speaking.
“I only date hot girls.”
PUA.com nerd swarm. Yikes. So much projection.
How does a ladies man act?Pending, he is not surrounded by ladies at the moment?
[CH: Why, he acts as if the ladies will shortly be at his side, of course!]
OK. I am not only all over the manosphere, but I back it up with research.
I cannot concur more with this post. The actions of building testosterone lead to congruence and sexual success with women.
I have been studying the body chemistry of the endocrine system involved in this, coupled with the Evo Psych Signaling Theory behind it.
I am absolutely convinced that testosterone is key. It is a signal to women to advanced immunocompetency in men and is the binary filter they use.
Fail it and everything else is irrelevant. Pass it and you go on to the next level.
It is subconsciously so important to women that while they are attracted to men that have the signals, they despise, and I mean viscerally despise, like the whole “creep” thing is due to a sick feeling, “creepy” like a spider crawling on them, when they encounter a beta that fails it.
Data I have shows that they are attracted to men with signals of testosterone with magnitudes on the order of 7 for those traits that signal it. Understand that “muscular, looks, arrogant, confrontational” they traits they liked score a 7.
But they despise the traits they signal the lack of it on the order of -14. A -14 for “intelligent, warm, faithful”, those “Good Father traits”.
So they despise what they despise twice as much as they liked what they like.
And they do so exactly because in a biological sense, it is that important.
Genetics matter yet testosterone is a function of activity and lifestyle. Actions can increase it and there are as many psychological aspects to having it and the signals of it as they are physical.
He is very close and is slowly getting closer and closer to touching the Holy Grail. He is closer than any other blogger and I think he is real close. In the next month or two, he will find it. Every one of the last 10 gene based, evo psych based, or biologically based blogs have hammered home a big truth. And I think he is so close.
I have some other supporting data I will be divulging in other blogs in the next weeks.
But man, he is very close to blowing this shit wide open. Stay tuned.
I have occasionally thought about anabolics for this exact reason.
You are dealing with a very complex system here, given the risk that sounds like a piss poor way to increase your success as it is in no way guaranteed that if you change one variable in your hormonal system you aren’t going to throw everything out of whack as your body will start regulating other hormones as well.
Mesterolone is a fairly safe androgen. I’d try that first. If you wanna go with steroids, get your hormone levels recorded before, during and after, and use adequate post cycle therapy.
I’d also be interested in what happens on a single dose of triptorelin.
I know there was someone a while back talking about going to doctor at like 50 or so for testosterone treatments
might of been tupac
check with doctor I guess
I stopped wearing underwear though and my dick is hard like all fucking day
it could be the chick coming back as well but ahh
the dude is off the fucking chain lately and my bitch can’t take it I broke her ass down
she been cooking a lot of steak lately though too and everyone been complimenting me on the way I look and shit
If you’re reasonably healthy, you don’t need anabolics. Just lift heavy & eat lots of meat, and make sure your vitamin D levels are in the top of the range. Those interventions alone should get you to the upper middle of the bell curve distribution of T levels. Above & beyond that, there are some great natural T boosters. Check out ergo-log.com for some good studies and such.
Phrenology. Though you’ll find eager consumers here.
I make this reply before but I put in the link to the study and the spam filter might have kicked it out.
Here is the study with the data. Notice the source. I would say it is highly legitimate. This study or a variant has been mentioned not only in blogs but in many mainstream pubs. I went to the raw data contained in it instead of an analysis of it. That’s where the 7 and -14 numbers come from. Yeah, I kind of read the thing before I make the claim. And several others. This data has been quite repeated. Yesterday there was a blast of articles on how women’s sexual preferences change when they are on the pill vs when they are not. It is a similar variant of the theme.
“Changes in Women’s Mate Preferences Across the Ovulatory Cycle” Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 2007, Vol. 92, No. 1, 151–163
And I might add that this data is backed up over and over and over by the anecdotal evidence of millions of stories in the manosphere.
Search for the study by copying that entire title and reference. The first thing that comes up in Google is the text of the study.
You’re quite typical of those that refuse to let science and facts get in the way of their understanding, or least how they choose to understand the world.
Your idea of rigor would be “Who here believes culture is key to sexual behavior? Hold up your hands. OK. You’re right”.
But trust me, the evidence is mounting, piece by piece. If you have been paying attention to this blog other than coming to troll, you would see that.
What the fuck are you going on about dude, chill. Steroids are still going to cause phrenological differences in users, i.e., increased musculature, behavioral modifications from higher free testosterone.
You shouldn’t approach every comment like you know what the other person is thinking and they are trying to pick a fight with you.
Ah, I may have misread that as a reply to me, and not the other commenter (hence the reference to phrenology, which I interpreted totally differently). Anyway, it appears we have no disagreement.
Not every comment. Just this guy.
@MM I guess the T-Filter would come in after one has passed the MHC-filter as “different enough to bang without incest”.
“So they despise what they despise twice as much as they liked what they like.”
So much truth packed in this…it’ll make your head spin.
Which is why it is better a chick is mad at you because you are a man…than to have a chick like you because you possess more feminine traits.
I come to some conclusion and but it might be a little bit of a stretch to claim it, then in a day or two, he comes out with something and slams it home.
Here is a good example.
I uncover reading about sexual attraction in women is based on attraction that signals “fecundity” (some like fertile but a little more than that, youth, beauty, hip to waist ratio, symmetry), and I am certain of it. But then other academic stuff says “not so fast, other factors are at play here”.
The whole academic community is so biased towards culture that even when an academic study comes out with good data, the researchers worry they have water down the analysis to keep the rest of the community from lynching them.
Then the post with “Which girl is hotter” where the one on the right was a transsexual male and the actual woman got the overwhelming number of votes to literally bring home to idea of subconscious awareness of fecundity.
So hang it there man. He is going nail it. I have no doubt. He probably already has but it is in 1000 points, but I think he will find the thing that brings them altogether in a unified theory.
You are a ladies’ man. Start acting like it, and you will in fact become the ladies’ man ladies love.
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Thats easy for you to say, you’re Mr. White, you got a cool sounding name… why can’t we pick our own names?
Game works best for those people who already have decent social skills, but have been underperforming with women specifically.
To repeat another platitude: the ability to learn game is an innate characteristic.
I find myself agreeing with you. How about you start off as omega and work your way to the top? lol
It is important to realize that while some traits, such as intelligence, seem to be almost completely determined by genetics, others may vary significantly according to our social and cultural environment. There is no contradiction in this.
Shocking I know, but people can and do actually learn stuff:
http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2013/04/the_effect_of_i.html
But the ability to learn is itself largely genetically determined.
I need this advice. I think too hard. I wish I could fight my inner inertia and just take external steps to do things.
mmm boobies
External Step 1: Take off your clothes.
External Step 2: (fill in the blank, baby).
Lather, rinse, repeat.
no! that stuff is unwise and should be between a person and their lover. Kate and Heartiste told me.
Heartiste gets top billing.
I’m pretty sure it was your idea first.
Doesn’t matter.
Kate, that can’t be denied.
“no! that stuff is unwise and should be between a person and their lover.”
Un-hunh.
That would be more convincing if you didn’t spend so much time posting this internal angst on a board full of aspiring ladies men…it positively radiates a high degree of “Fuck ME! Fuck ME! FUCK *****ME******, PLEEEEEEAAASSSSE!”
I’m just sayin’…
Feel free to keep putting our names in the same sentence though. It’ll built up his immunity for the wedding invitations
“it positively radiates a high degree of “Fuck ME! Fuck ME! FUCK *****ME******, PLEEEEEEAAASSSSE!””
It does? Had no idea. I have almost no filter and no censor between me and myself. For some reason, my feelings, fears and darkest desires automatically bubble up to the surface. After nothing is a secret from yourself, sharing all of that with other people is the easier step.
Teachings of a Jedi – Master Beta on Relationships
Regarding size:
“It isn’t size that matters. It’s what you do with it that matters. Just look at how well Master Yoda performs.”
Regarding consent:
“Use the force!”
Regarding PUA:
“Only works on the weak-minded.”
Regarding LJBF:
“Patience, my blue friend.”
yea but that’s because yoda climbs in the pussy and starts breakdancing he he he
Good post.
I would like more posts like this one, inspiring and useful for both genders.
[CH: Right away, m’lady! *eye roll*]
Heartsie!
I like your attention
No, I’m trying to be mean with you again. Please, forgive me.
Actually, I’m stupid. Forget all these comments here. Bye.
Chuckles
Cheeky bitch.
When an angry beta insists that they should not “have to change who they are”, what they are really saying is that they think themselves incapable of truly making the change.
Otherwise, why would the beta males in question continually try to refine other elements of their anti-game gaming techniques?
Question for the betahaterboys-
If being a moderate suckup mangina is not reaping a harvest of poon, then why escalate your methods? You’re still “changing who you are”, are you not?
What the hater hates is the idea that he might have to change in ways that cut across the grain of his worldview/narrative.
He would rather wither into a sexual bonsai plant than admit that his anti-game is wrong. He will defend his worldview, upon pain of (sexual) death. Repentance is the first step toward salvation, and repent he must, of his sins against the reality that is cuckolding his worldview before his very eyes.
Change or die. But if you choose death, please die with quiet dignity. Like a man. Accept your self-inflicted sexual obsolescence with whatever honor you may have left lying around in the in the dusty corners of your ego.
I agree with all of this. A massive part of swallowing the red pill is opening yourself up to new paradigms, and sometimes it even requires being able to embrace a little cognitive dissonance.
This goes back to ego/identity. The anti-game types have formed their identity and will cling to it, but it’s based off a socially conditioned reality spoon-fed to them from childhood instead of going out and gaining their own reference experiences and opening their brain up to reconfigure it.
You could say “ya well yareally your identity/ego is invested in being a PUA so you’re not open to listening to blathering nonsense theory from keyboard jockeys and always shut them down”, but my views are based on results from reference experience. If tomorrow I found that it was impossible to get laid without a 6-pack and a million dollars, I would be the first one in line for the gym and be working out while thinking about how to get rich quick.
In other words, the sated cock doth not lie.
That is an awesome handle.
A Canadian Steve
If tomorrow I found that it was impossible to get laid without a 6-pack and a million dollars, I would be the first one in line for the gym and be working out while thinking about how to get rich quick.
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OK, but what if the price was eating a bag of dicks? or cleaning out grandma’s bank account?
What are you unwilling to do for some vag?
I would use the money from grandma’s bank account to buy enough mouthwash to rinse the taste of all those dicks out of my mouth.
well thank the gods it just takes money and not much else
ahahahahaha!
the ugliest truth there is
benefits me though he he he
nice thing about game is it cuts the cost down
uhm,thwack…why would you hypotheticize that the price of having sex with a girl would be…eating dicks? Why did THAT particular price spring to mind? Interesting…just sayin…
You don’t really see much of this though. I never come across guys who are unwilling to change themselves into more attractive people. None of them are getting burned by women and then thinking “I have to keep doing what I’m doing but tenfold!”
Usually the problem is just life situations making it hard to change. Most guys have to work, and work long hard hours, just to be able to put gas in their used Ford Focus. Being able to hit Sunset Strip to practice Game on 10s is a far-fledged dream that most of them will never realize until they’re well into their sixties. Who has time for that shit in today’s economic climate? A privileged few, that’s who.
It’s Fear of Losing Self.
If I put my foot across that line, then the whole world will be upside-down, right? Black-white, white-black, MGTOWer asploded into a thousand black-hole-suns, dogs & cats sleeping together, mass-hysteria.
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Of course, one does not actually lose All self; & not immediately. You’re just a First Week Highschool Freshman all over again.
-Or as the Buddhists call it, “The Beginner’s Mind”.
Most betas have weak hearts. It takes strong willpower to change….and commitment to keep it going through the inevitable failures at first.
I’m still in the trial and error stages…but it is actually great to fail. That way I know how to succeed.
This reminds me how many women get upset when told to act feminie and not to be a competing co-worker with dates. It almost all applies to them.
I’m just gonna leave this here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2306272/Bearded-lady-Mariam-Germany-felt-sexier-Tells-Holly-Willoughby-Philip-Schofield-ITV-This-Morning.html
OT: What happens when you ask 15,000 cops whether or not gun grabbing will reduce crime?
http://www.policeone.com/Gun-Legislation-Law-Enforcement/articles/6183787-PoliceOnes-Gun-Control-Survey-11-key-findings-on-officers-thoughts
Hint: you get answers that must never, ever appear on Goebbelvision.
In the masculinization of western women department:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2306272/Bearded-lady-Mariam-Germany-felt-sexier-Tells-Holly-Willoughby-Philip-Schofield-ITV-This-Morning.html
“A mother who began sprouting thick facial hair after the birth of her son 28 years ago says she’s feeling sexier and more confident than ever before, having finally stopped trying to get rid of her beard.”
By 2025, being born with a penis will get you arrested as a rapist, while replacing your vagina with one will be the litmus test of an empowered womyn.
Now I see Airien beat me to this one by a mile.
Has been single for 10 years but is finally hoping to find love in England
England? Heh, it just might happen. I fully understand why she’s trying England.
In the shockingly unpredictable department, the MSM admits to the skin color of a white guy who went on a stabbing spree on a Texas college campus. Liberals demand background checks at Excalibur Cutlery & Gifts stores. The Childress twins simultaneously experience their first orgasm in…well, ever.
http://gma.yahoo.com/two-critically-injured-texas-college-stabbings-wounded-14-222330326–abc-news-topstories.html
I have always used as a personal quote on Facebook and the like the line from Vonnegut’s Mother Night, “in the end, you are what you pretend to be…”
So true CH.
Manosphere gold. Yareally gives the kid a road map and Minter the chemistry lesson.
I’ve always had high confidence
and now again I got the bitches to fit that
turn down enough ugly ho’s and the hot ones will chase you down
[…] Fake It Till You Make It: The Scientific Evidence In Favor […]
Duh. This is how Boot Camp works. If you look like a Marine, and act like a Marine, you will soon become one.*
*This approach only works in Boot Camp, not in your momma’s basement, you doggone food blister.
So Rebecca Watson is starting her shit up again and Joe Rogan just white-knighted for her.
Just when I was starting to like Joe Rogan.
Related:
“If you ever catch yourself thinking phrases such as: “If I do X then she will think Y,” or “What did she mean by that?” or “What is she trying to make me think about her?” or “I never know exactly how she feels about me,” or “She says A but she does B,” then let her go.”
Lolzlolzzzz
WWHD
What Would Heartiste Do
one thing to add…if you already have an established social circle that expects you to behave a certain way, you may find it intimidating to change yourself under their watchful beta eyes…I would suggest moving to a new location if that’s at all a possibility…you’ll have the benefit of reinventing yourself without encountering resistance from people who don’t want you to succeed…and believe me they don’t…
I agree, who you are is to no small part being shaped by the company you keep.
This reminds me of a study I saw one time where half the subjects were told to hold a pencil in their teeth while looking at a mirror. They were then given a test with hundreds of questions, but imbedded in all of them were several questions asking the subject to rate their level of happiness.
Result: those who saw themselves holding the pencil in their teeth (which forced their mouths to smile) reported higher levels of happiness than the control group.
In social psychology this theory has been called “modeling theory” in that our self-perception conforms to our objective behavior. We observe what we are doing and then model our feelings accordingly, not the other way around. Same finding as this post.
I’ve been saying it since I was 20. If you think you have game, you have game.
There is one thing that you cannot fake:
RAPE!
Fake it till you Rape it!
I find this line of thinking interesting. Since I’m a lot older than most here – 50, I never knew what “Game” was, but I knew what worked with women. I had experimented for several years in college and Grad-school, observing co-ed behavior up close, and seeing how they responded to certain behaviors, incorporating what worked into my own behavior. Most of my college friends didn’t recognize me when we would get together those few times I went home for holidays and such when in grad-school.
I started taking women home with me, mostly because they were paying for the entire trip. Some were a lot older – in one case she was a professor’s wife whom I had met at a Christmas party and mentioned that I couldn’t afford to visit my family – she volunteering the cost of everything for me. Her one condition, that I would show her the sites. I showed her more than that but it taught me that women WANT to do things for men, so you have to give them the opportunity. It is YOUR RIGHT, so let them be happy to do it for you. She funded several trips, including a cruise. Her husband was an idiot, completely clueless – I used her regularly, but she never demanded a lot of time.
But the idea that you cannot modify your behavior when you are rewarded – goes against years of animal training and that is what is happening. You are being trained – not by anyone else, but by yourself, and your reward to proper behavior is having access to more pussy than you ever would have believed possible. That is a reward that as a male, you take note of and want more of. So it becomes second nature.
So skeptics can say what they want – I only wish that I hadn’t had to determine this stuff for myself over years of independent observation, it would have been a LOT easier to have just read about it. Of course since then I have read the terminology and others actions and seen the things I found to have worked for me.
So don’t believe the nay-sayers. It works. And really, what do you have to lose?
There is more wisdom in your body than in your deepest philosophy.
– Nietzsche