“What does it matter to you?” is a common refrain of indignation you’ll often hear from equalists and their phylum. It’s part of the remedial school of philosophical thought that says if a personal action is not directly hurting anyone else, then no moral opprobrium can apply to it. So typically if you get into a debate with a feminist or manboob, it will go like this:
You: Feminist action or behavior [X] is stupid, counterproductive, and rife with externalities.
Equalist felching champ: It’s not hurting anyone, so what does it matter to you?
For a prime example of the genre, here’s a comment by aneroidocean (so pretentious) complaining about the post on mannish female Olympians:
So what is a woman [to do] that wasn’t blessed with wider hips and narrower shoulders? Die quietly?
Gotta love the reductio ad absurdum. A classic leftie feint. You could parry by employing simple logic — “pointing out the fact of masculinized female athletes is not the same as arguing for the prohibition of women in sports” — or you could rightfully conclude that simple logic would zoom right over the heads of such emotional crybabies and choose the mockery route instead:
“No, they should die screaming in agony forced to listen to your pussy whining.”
What does it matter if she competes in the Olympics?
Wuss, there it is. “What does it matter to you?!??????? Somebody call the whaaaambulance! A feeling has been hurt!”
The issue being raised was never about how much it personally mattered to me, or affected my own life. That’s the problem with you unthinking liberals — you always want to reframe an argument you find distasteful, or you find yourself on the losing end of, into a personal matter, a position from which it’s easier for you to morally strut and preen and preach fire and brimstone from your tawdry little masturbatoriums.
The morality, or lack thereof, of manned-up women competing in the Olympics is not the point of the Olympic female athlete post. No one’s rights are abridged if some manly swole she-beast hoists 400 lbs above her head, nor is any moral law du jour violated. The point here is to remind the losers and equalists and assorted anti-realists that there is nothing inherently empowering about female sports participation unless one defines empowerment as “becoming more man-like”. It is also to address, honestly and truthfully, the obvious fact that a lot of female athletes are just quasi-men, in appearance, musculature and temperament. Therefore, the encouragement of women by the media industrial complex into elite sports mostly rests on a foundation of denying women their feminine essence. A nation that wasn’t fucked in the head with an overload of kumbaya horseshit would not shy away from this bald truth of the reality of sex differences, and would realign its cultural incentives so that a proper balance was restored, reflecting innate biological reality, until sports programs and funding return to what they once were: mostly geared toward men. At the very least, the feminist propagandizing of female sports empowerment has to end, and hand-wringing over “equal representation” needs to become a shameful relic from this ugly, god-willing bygone era.
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“What does it matter if she competes in the Olympics?”
Because she’s a role model for little girls and has a body that most normal American women will never bet able to attain… oh wait!
Well-played, sir. Well-played, indeed.
Just think of the amount of blubber in the brain preventing the synapse from firing to relate these concepts in such close proximity. Hugh Hefner presented a target achievable with a soft regimen of a little bikini volleyball in the pool, and a thin dew of perspiration after a pillow fight.
Now impressionable girls are expected to eat a plate of death camp cuisine after joint grinding sessions of tractor tire flipping, all to please lesbian martinets whose embrace comes with an unfulfilling stump. For a normal women nothing outside the Tower of London could bring them to their standards.
That whole WDIMTY tediocity rears its flaccid grey matter here at the chateau all-too-often… witness the earlier Swedish handball girls thread.
“A nation that wasn’t fucked in the head with an overload of kumbaya horseshit would not shy away from this bald truth of the reality of sex differences, and would realign its cultural incentives so that a proper balance was restored, reflecting innate biological reality, until sports programs and funding return to what they once were: mostly geared toward men.”
This, in a nutshell, is the problem in the West and the source of at least my anger and now cynicism, no doubt for most of us it is so. This skewing of incentives to create an equalist utopia is a pricipe example of what I meant in a recent post about our society being out of balance in terms of gender or sex.
Recently, discussing the issue of women and humor, the conversation got to my interlocutor declaring the question shouldn’t even be asked, and even if it is true men are funnier on average, what does it matter? Here’s why it matters:
1) Science! Truth has intrinsic value.
2) When women are underrepresented MEN are blamed.
2a) When X group is subject of X disparate impact it is always based on a false empirical claim. False empirical claims are a prerequisite for stupid normative claims.
Thus, we have to challenge the false claims.
+1… excellent run-down.
Re-read the last paragraph, but with a Bob Costas voice narrating in your head. As if its the wrap-up to a night of Olympic watching.
Priceless.
We won’t be seeing feminist progs leaving quietly and without a fight because they are like parasites – they grow stronger as society grows weaker, using their disadvantage as a rallying cry for more ‘action.; Best to mock and ignore.
As for them deflecting criticism due to your non-involvement, the very fact these feminists push their ‘advancements’ in our face permits criticism. I am shuddering to think how our Canadian women’s soccer team will now be on a campaign for more attention and, of course, gov’t money.
Yeah, I threw a pretty poorly thought out strawman argument up there. Fucked that right up.
“The point here is to remind the losers and equalists and assorted anti-realists that there is nothing inherently empowering about female sports participation unless one defines empowerment as “becoming more man-like”.”
The above is not what I originally understood your position to be. I can appreciate the above. Equal representation is silly in the olympic or even sporting term. It’s a competition. If the three best pole vaulters in the world are from one country, they don’t send two away like some twisted sports affirmative action.
They do in gymnastics.
‘Cause you’re fucking up America for everybody else, lady! (or words to that effect in response to said left/libtard and/or feminazi).
Bravo, CH, you’re on a roll.
In addition to all of our other athletic advantages we have about 10% more hemoglobin per unit volume of blood than women do:
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/08/we-thought-female-athletes-were-catching-up-to-men-but-theyre-not/260927/
Steroids have probably closed the gap on muscle mass, but without some way to increase oxygen transport women won’t ever catch up(also on that day prepare for all olympic records to be shattered).
If you want to see feminist lack of logic in all its glory, Google the following: The Stream – e-Patriarchy – YouTube.
This is an Al Jazeera news segment on how “the internet promotes misogyny” and rules need to be put in place to prevent that.
The commenters don’t seem to get basic concepts like free speech. If anyone ventures over there, but sure to “dislike” this video, so we don’t get more of it. And try not to get physically ill reading the feminist’s comments.
What does it matter?
Women shouldn’t be playing sport full stop, performance art is the only respectable venue for women to express their ‘athletic’ ability.
Women’s sport is reverse discrimination, where they can’t compete with men they create gender exclusive institutions, if they want to be equal they should compete in an open field.
They are slinging shit loads of propaganda. Nike just put out a commercial with a 50 year-old female narrator talking through a bunch of girls, most of them minors, oozing ‘grrlpower’. My ‘favorite’ line was: “I’m a fashion model who can dunk.”
Hilarious:
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/08/10/study-oral-sex-cures-morning-sickness/
Important note, ladies:
But not just any sperm, it should be the sperm of the person who got you pregnant.
You: Feminist action or behavior [X] is stupid, counterproductive, and rife with externalities.
Equalist felching champ: It’s not hurting anyone…
Well, actually, it is. That’s pretty much the definition of an externality.