What’s more degrading:
a. paying a whore because you have no other way to get laid
b. sleeping with this for free:
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A Valentine’s Day Thought Experiment
Feb 14th, 2012 by Heartiste
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People find it hard to believe, but yeah black fertility in the US has been dropping like a coon falling out of a tree.
It was 2.4 as recently as 1992, and now sits at 1.5, with some estimates for native-born black women as low as 1.3 TFR. The reason for the drop is multifactorial, and not too dissimilar from the factors affecting TFR for other racial groups in the US.
Good news, yes! Except that the lower native black female TFR is being exogamously boosted by the much higher TFR of increasing numbers of black immivaders (jewnissaries) into the US and the West generally.
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Total fertilty rate of the US is currently at 1.6 children per woman, which is well below replacement level.
TFR of the Amish is 6-10 children per woman, depending on sect.
TFR of Mennonites is 8-10.
TFR of Hasidim (orthodox jews) is 6-8.TFR of conservative White women is 1.5
TFR of liberal White women is 0.5TFR of hispanic women is 1.9-2.0
TFR of black women is 1.5If current fertility trends hold, the future of the US is:
far more religious
browner
more conservative among WhitesPink pussyhat liberal White women and their low T lickspittle males are not long for this modren world.
I easily envision a future "United States" (or whatever it is called then) splitting along ultra-religious and brownoid geographic lines, with perhaps Amish and other religious White sects occupying the northern tier of the former US and le 56%ers and assorted third world riff raff occupying the rest.
Whatever that means, it won't mean 1950s America. But I can tell you which side of the line a hypothetical future me would choose.
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Amphibian temptress. You think you have power over me? I was born in the faceless avatar, molded by it!
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The ruling trash will continue to propagandize race-mixing in the US and elsewhere because they privately know that a multiracial society is doomed to fail, but since they lack the desire or will to reverse the demographic submersion of Whites they have decided that the only solution is mass miscegenation until a single mixed mongrel race presumably lessens the frictions inherent in racially diverse countries.
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"It is our moral duty as Germans..."
Mimicry has been the jews' favored weapon of subversion for a long time.
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Lots of speculation about AI becoming a sentient skynet and killing off humanity (I still think consciousness is a barrier to real artificial intelligence).
My worries about AI are more mundane, but no less threatening. AI as of now is essentially an advanced search engine. But instead of providing pointers to answers, as a traditional search engine does, it provides the answer itself.
If AI is skewed by input bias or editorial control, the answer it provides will be a semi-truth or an outright lie. As people become more reliant on AI, the biases and lies will lead to society-wide competency crises.
If AI is an accurate assessment of reality, it is likely to lead to mass unemployment when expertise becomes accessible to the layman. White collar intermediary jobs would take the biggest hit.
If AI imagery becomes indistinguishable from reality (we are almost there), the masses can be emotionally manipulated to support policies or politicians that go against their interests.
AI will empower hackers and render security and privacy controls obsolete. When that happens, people will flee the internet just to have a sense of control over their personal lives. No data will be safe from prying eyes.
Ultimately I see AI accelerating the pace toward Zero Social Trust in societies that are already experiencing a drastic decline in social trust from racial diversity. I also see it turbocharging the surveillance state, which will, when fully deployed and operational, mentally enslave the masses in chains of fear and paranoia.
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Recent research on ancient and modern DNA of West Eurasians has found that there has been natural selection over the last 10,000 years favoring red hair, lower body fat, lower incidence of schizophrenia, lighter skin tone, higher IQ, lower risk of alcoholism, and a lower chance of male-pattern baldness.
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Signs of a dying US empire are everywhere. Just one example: read the labels on the stuff you own. Write a list of those things and their manufacturing country of origin.
If your spending habits are like most Americans, at least half of your stuff will say Made in China, and that number could go as high as 90%.
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The sinister child of technological progress is that the convenience it offers robs people of the ability to fathom how their ancestors survived and were happy.
This incredulity creates a break in lineage continuity, until our ancestors seem as foreign to us as racial strangers do today.
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People have asked me what I think of the current incarnation of the "manosphere".
It's like a funhouse mirror version of the original thinkers, as if someone took Lord Byron's writings and ran it through an AI with Down's Syndrome trying to impersonate the Joker.
A kernel of understanding survived the transition, but it got buried under a mountain of...how to put this politely....sheer insanity.
Looksmaxxers, for instance. The idea is sound...women as a sex do have a preference for specific masculine physical features....but the execution and buttressing ideology are all out of whack.
Basically, looksmaxxers are men who project their male sexual desire onto women, mistaking their own primary focus on women's looks for the belief that women are similarly single-mindedly focused on men's looks.
This apparently leads to lightly smashing one's jawline with a ball peen hammer to encourage chadly bone growth.
The OGs knew better than this. Many a tome was penned in the effort to teach young men that women do not think like them, that it is retardo to assume women are sociosexually men with vaginas, and that male desirability is multifactorial, judged by women who as a sex possess a more holistic approach to mate selection.
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A. Not because of the whore bit but because you have no other way…
A juicy Double Whopper….that’s been sitting in a dumpster for a few days…hmmm…should I just pick the maggots off?
which has the nicer snatch?
There’s no room for dignity in this shootout.
Go with a) and call it a transaction. At least the capitalist tint makes it a little less odious.
Dude don’t put things that scary in an RSS feed. Seriously, I was eating when I saw that.
i would do the whore.
i got issues.
b is beyond degrading, it’s physiologically impossible for most.
a may be degrading to some degree, but if you’re cruising across the nevada desert solo there are worse ways to stop and catch a shower.
Don’t forget the most SOUL-CRUSHING choice of all, choice (C):
Paying for sex on a daily basis (or monthly via check) but NOT getting sex, i.e., having a wife or ex-wife.
I would gladly take option a, failing that …shoot myself
The only other thing more degrading than those two options is paying for a whore that looks like that
whores are fine.
whores are the only honest women. They tell you the price up front.
I got some hot footage for those who’d pick choice b):
Don’t forget the kleenex, dawg.
So what’s the etiquette, do I take some flowers to the whorehouse today or not?
you pay for (a) with money.
you pay for (b) with your soul.
yeah, but (a) pays with her soul … although she gets money for this.
[heartiste: most sex workers enter the field voluntarily. the narrative to the contrary is simply total bullshit.]
i think it’s better to sleep with (b) because she has nice hair
[i’d hate to see what your definition of bad hair looks like.]
and beautiful eyes
[if there was any doubt that you are not a persistent troll, this comment should dispel it.]
and by loving her you can inspire her to lose weight and stop smoking.
[her problems are far more numerous than fatness and smoking. she needs a DNA enhancement.]
sleeping with a prostitute just causes further damage to her soul.
[if it’s so soul damaging, why do most whores go into it on their own accord and stay with it for years?]
Maya, look at b. Really look at her. Take off your new agey “I’m okay you’re okay” blinders for a minute.
I’d say that woman’s soul is damaged unless she is a Lesbian. If she is a Lesbian, she had that kind of edgy something I could see doing. If she is heterosexual, she utterly and completely hates herself.
The fact that she has pretty hair and pretty eyes, and though most women do have some confidence issues, we’re not all blind, means she has no remotely rational excuse for not caring for herself. It’s not like she’s extremely old or extremely ugly in raw terms, and would be empowered somehow by letting go of socially imposed grooming schedules or something. We’re not all perfect, but most of us care enough to not just let stuff go.
I’m not ashamed to say that even though as a woman I might hit that, if I was male I wouldn’t go near that with someone else’s dick. No way. Bring the hooker.
Nicole, please tell me the only way you would hit that is vigorously with a twelve inch strap on dildo that had been rolled with superglue and finely shreded glass laced with burning acid and poison which will kill her before she ever fucks again!!!
LOL.
At least with (a) you have a choice of which whore.
A. Not because of the whore bit but because you have no other way…
Even though I said b, yeah. Nothing wrong with the occasional whore as long as it’s not because you’re completely incapable of getting sex elsewhere.
cigstache is back! there’s a blast from the past. i think she was origially one of 10 photos featured in a “rank the chicks” post, maybe in late 2008 or early 2009, then became shorthand for fuglies in subsequent posts. thanks for bringing her back on valentines day, Chateau…
oneitis, maurice?
I choose masturbation.
A. I don’t believe I could ever pay for sex, not when there is plenty sex available in which no monetary transaction is required for the deed. If I was a wretched omega, though, I’d probably pay to have my product consumed.
B. My penis will shrivel in flaccid defiance at the sight of such a sorry specimen.
Agreed.
If it’s one of those high-class whores you see in the movies, then obviously a).
Otherwise, could I just let Bobby Brown punch me in the face?
This isn’t even close. At least the poor bastard who pays a pro because he can’t get any doable chick for free shows that he has absolute minimum standards…and at least one functional eye.
Most paid sex is not with pros.
Anyone who’s made a direct cash-for-sex transaction in their life is a pro in my book.
Clarification: I don’t mean to imply the term “pro” equates to them actually being skilled at their chosen trade.
Jeez, keep posting these pictures of late and the chateau will be where boners go to die.
I know tons of guys who are amazing with women who are quite into hookers and escorts. It has nothing to do with “choose one or the other”. Opie and Anthony talk about it all the time, and those guys are millionaires with 10′s.
Sadly I still feel some sort of dirtyness if I was to ever get a hooker. Probably a societal thing,
What a waste of blue eyes. God is cruel sometimes.
I chose mustache chick. You can’t prove someone fucked her, can you?
I mean I chose mustache chick as the worst of the options. Not as in I chose her.
Actually i’d rather do whitney housten than the creature. Bet the thing smells worse too… Iiii will always love yoooou
Choose the whore.
Keep it in the species.
You mean bipedal smelly nasty looking landwhales are not part of our species(modern present day human beings or homo sapiens sapiens). I’m shocked,(Not meant for you,Gorbachev, as I realize you are sane and intelligent like myself but for the insane or retarded people reading this—Hear my SARCASM!!!) shocked I tell you!!! What would our ruling elite with their supporting feminasties and White Knights/Manginas think?
they’re all whores, fellas.
Just because you didn’t put any cash in her hands doesn’t mean you haven’t done business.
Either way you pay. But money is easier to replace than time or dignity.
this is a guy bro. come on.
There’s no way in hell paying for a decent looking whore is more degrading than fucking the comic book guy from the simpsons
Come one, she isn’t that bad looking. I think she has a lovely chin. And it’s the inner beauty that matters.
A snorlax appeared…
Here’s Tiger Woods’ whore, as eyewash for the snorlax:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_it-hnLPVidA/S2vwIhp3f8I/AAAAAAAABpE/n0hs-yQFoYY/s400/phpThumb_generated_thumbnailjpg.jpg
Faced with that dylema, I take a) forever, especially if the girl I’d be paying was a Prepago paisa… In that case, the deal is clear: I have something you want and you have something I want, “trueque” and everyvbody got what they wanted without bullshitting.
However, I think the normal relationships are some sort of the a) case arrangement, where the man pays for sex, and the woman gets pleasure, commitment and the resources from the man. A very profitable contract for one part one very limiting for the other.
But the relationships that the game enables you to enter are relationships (especially the short term ones and the same night lays) where the only benefit for each part involved in the sexual contract is sex. A quid pro quo of sex.
I’ll take option A. You hoitty toitty mother fuckers have “paid” for sex one way or another. If you say you haven’t you probably have no pubes.
Let’s remember that CH wasn’t saying that all men who pay for sex, grinding or massages can’t get it otherwise. That’s not at all what he said but a number of commenters took it that way.
Reading comprehension guys…reading comprehension.
Meanwhile, many of the 11% who clicked on a) may have done so by mistake because the brain would have said “click on the one you’d prefer”. If those could take back their mistake, the collective answer would be mostly unanimous.
Also, it takes a fair amount of cluelessness not to realize that the girls many alphas fuck for free aren’t amateur whores with other men. Often the guys at the clubs get their free lays long after the virgin cashed in for cash at age 16.
The film “Debbie Does Dallas” wasn’t just fantasy. Teens are really like that.
Sorry: are whores for other men
That is very true. Even the ones with so-called alpha boyfriends still whore themselves out.
This is exactly what happened to me.
My line of thinking is very broad, but don’t you TECHNICALLY pay for ALL women? I mean how many girls are going to let you at the goodies without at least a noticeable investment of time, energy, or money? In most non “pay for play relationships”, don’t you usually end up having to sacrifice a healthy combination of all three?
Rather pay a whore that will be better looking than the trailer park mammoth.
Cigstache,
O Light of my Life,
O Fire of my loins
The irony is that sex for money generally costs a lot less than sex for free.
There are very thirsty men in this world and the woman in the photo has certainly been fucked. You have to wonder how much these poor fellows have spent on dates, gifts, children, divore settlements and, of course, the cost of wasted time and emotional turmoil from FUCKING THAT. Guarantee you that sad cases have dropped more on that (and other horrid women) on a fuck by fuck basis than they would if they have visited high class escorts during the same period.
As a guy who has been in an LTR for 16 years, I now understand the allure of hookers. Sometimes, you don’t want the mess and bother of affairs. Ask Elliot Spitzer or other dudes like him; they don’t have trouble attracting pussy, but they don’t want it interfering with their home lives.
From fringe to the Wall Street Journal in, what, three years? Four years? I dunno.
http://online.wsj.com/article/best_of_the_web_today.html
I honestly can’t believe so many of you picked option b. aside from the fact that fugly is clearly a man with a wig on (why would any fugly decide to fix up her hair but not the rest of the package) I’d rather pay for a decent looking whore than sleep with fugly. If you think about it, we all spend money on women one way or another and even then we spend time on them which could be spent on more ways to get money
Jordan Van Sloot, Batman Edition
for option b it just wouldn’t move.
As if more proof Obama’s beta was needed:
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/02/obamas-valentines-day-advice-114421.html
B is more degrading by far
C’mon, ya judgmental bastids… all bodies are good bodies!