I’ve noticed a trend in the MSM. Men invent something controversial, get little mainstream press, women follow up with their watered-down version, get tons of mainstream press. In this case, an aging ex-stripper has landed on the front page of the New York Post where she discusses girl game: the female version of getting “what you want” from men, which in femspeak means getting love, money, attention and resources with, presumably, the ultimate goal being marriage. (Although you have to wonder about the kind of man who would be willing to pony up big bucks for a useless rock and ceremony to geld himself by marrying a road-worn and tossed away wet ex-stripper single mom with enough cock notches on her vagina wall to make it look like a gynecological cave painting.)
I don’t much write about girl game — aka The Rules — because it is, for the most part, ineffective relative to the thermonuclear game that girls already have at their disposal; namely, their youth and beauty. An ugly girl can run all the “girl game” she wants; it won’t make a lick of difference to her prospects. Conversely, a hot girl will often get what she wants without any girl game. In fact, girl game can actually hurt her chances with the alpha males she loves because those are the kinds of guys least affected, and most turned-off, by girl game machinations. Only in the middle where the average over-25 plain janes congregate can girl game help at the farthest margins, and then only by helping them snag betas who are more likely to fall for it.
With that in mind, let’s examine this whore’s recipe for dating bliss. First, here’s a look at her:
Not bad, not good. She has the tell-tale post-op tranny face that bespeaks a lifetime of pumping and getting dumped. That lifestyle tends to masculinize women. I wouldn’t pay her for a lap dance, but I would bang her for free. Once. With a kevlar condom.
So what does this broad “Diane Passage” have to say about girl game?
1. Show your confidence at all times — especially when you feel it the least. No one will ever know if this is true, but if you believe it, others will, too. A friend of mine who was a dancer at a club once gave me the advice to always enter a room “proud as a peacock” — stand up straight and move confidently. She worked in Las Vegas, where it’s highly competitive for any type of dancer or entertainer. She was a pretty girl, but average in comparison to other women. But wherever she walked — whether it was a club, casino or a grocery store — all eyes were on her.
Classic case of female projection. Women love confidence in men, so they think men must love the same in women. Nope. Confidence in women is neutral to their dating market value at best, and actively off-putting at worst. Most likely, this “confident”, “stands tall” Las Vegas girl she talks about has a big rack, and guys were staring at her jutting tits that she was thrusting outward.
Very shy girls who are pretty will arouse a deep, instinctive authoritarian desire in men to protect and sexually serve. Women don’t need to be loudmouths or assertive if they are cute. It helps, in fact, if they are a little effacing and deferential. A woman with *clinically* low self-esteem, (as distinct from nearly all women who are told they have low self-esteem but in actuality are full of themselves), can temper a man’s lust by slouching, mumbling and denigrating herself. Why? Because men will think she’s not interested.
2. I can create my own outcome and accomplish any goal. I like to set goals for anything — serious or ridiculous. I started doing this when I worked at the club; I’d set weekly income goals to help me stay focused and not get onto a downward spiral (which is typical for exotic dancers). Along the way I set fun goals — attending certain concerts, parties, etc. My most ridiculous goal? Hooking up with a certain male porn star. A friend of mine offered to buy the star for me for one night, but I declined. It’ll be far more satisfying to accomplish my goal on my own. Whether your goals are serious, fun or both — never think you can’t have it all!
New age, feelgood pablum. Worse than useless. This will encourage ugly, old and fat girls to avoid putting in the necessary work to make themselves more attractive to men. Newsflash, ladies: No, you can’t have it all. You can have what your best assets will bring you by maximizing their impact and minimizing the impact of your worst liabilities. Some liabilities, of course, are not mitigable. PS: Getting a male porn star to fuck you is not an accomplishment. Getting him to love you and commit to you is.
3. Slow and steady wins the race. While goals are important, you shouldn’t set unrealistic time limits to achieve them. People do crazy things under deadlines. An acquaintance of mine stalked a man because she was obsessed with getting married before the age of 35. Last year, she fell head over heels on one of her first dates. On Facebook, she saw he was looking forward to a sushi dinner at his favorite restaurant. My friend knew where to find him, because he’d mentioned the same restaurant on their date! So early in the evening, she planted herself at a table with a good view of the place. He showed up . . . with another date. This woman is seemingly sane otherwise. If she dropped the marriage deadline and just had fun dating, I bet she’d end up meeting her goal — without stalking!
This advice isn’t half bad as a way to avoid the worst mistakes women make. Women can quickly kill a sexy, fun vibe and drive an alpha man away by revealing their desperation on a first date. Or even during the first year of dating. (Beta men will stick around and suffer her desperation because they, too, are desperate.) As women don’t want to feel like sex objects, men don’t want to feel like commitment objects.
4. Every girl should know the basics of fishing and dog training. Several years ago, my son [ed: bastard spawn soon to be huffing paint under an overpass] took an interest in fishing. I had to learn, too, so I could help him with it. Little did I know that my basic fishing knowledge would end up serving me well in the world of romance! When dating, I like to try a fun and sporty approach. As the person who’s fishing, I’m able to lead my “fish,” so I have the advantage of getting what I want. My bait: smile, hair, makeup, clothing, stilettos and either legs or cleavage (never both at the same time). [ed: no, because that would be slutty. it’s not like he’ll think you’re a skank when he hears about your stripper past and bastard sprog] My hook: a flirty, mysterious demeanor. When I “reel” a man in, that means I’m getting to know him. He always has the option to free himself from my “hook.” And I always have the option to throw him back into the dating sea. If I decide to keep my “fish,” then I switch to boundary-setting mode. I’ve trained a dog, raised a son and have been married twice to men who wanted nothing more than to make me happy [ed: if she’s been married twice and is currently an unmarried single mom, then they weren’t very interested in making her happy. nor was she interested in making them happy. and single women should take advice from her?]. I know how not to let a male dominate me. The one consistent thing for all types of men: consistent enforcement of boundaries and giving rewards when they deserve them.
It sounds like she ripped this nominal idea straight from the Chateau archives. Anyhow, what she is saying here is nothing new. She’s just repackaging the time-tested advice to women to look as good as possible to capture a man’s interest by trying to make it sound edgier with the comparison to dog training and fishing. And enforcement of boundaries? What does that even mean? Her boundaries have obviously been rodgered to complete permeability.
5. My wallet does not exist. It might sound like an outdated cliché, but if you’re a woman, you should never reach into your wallet while you’re in the presence of a man. Even if you’ve been married for years. Not only must a man pay for the main components of a date (dinner, etc.), but they must also take care of taxi fare, coat check and bathroom attendant tips. The woman who believes in this mantra is not a gold-digger or obligated to “return the favor.” The few times I’ve gone “dutch” on dates, it usually results in the man feeling emasculated because of it — or it means the guy has some sort of money hang-up. Can an emasculated guy or someone with issues give you what you want? Not for me!
How sweet. An old-fashioned stripper single mom. The worst of every world. Now here’s some real talk for the single women reading: the only men you’ll get by playing the role of whore golddigger are betas with few other options and rich men with harems and zero game, wit or charm. Don’t bet on the latter unless you’re smoking hot.
6. My presence is a gift. Know your value — and not in dollar amounts. Relationships are work — and work has value. Do the rewards of your relationship satisfy you? What do you want from your partner? I broke up with a guy (who my friends and I nicknamed “The Whiny Baby”) because he was too high-maintenance, emotionally. This wouldn’t have been a problem if he could have just provided a bit of emotional support in return. [ed: translation: he treated her like the worthless aging stripper single mom she is] I told him that, and he briefly turned into a decent boyfriend until becoming a whiny baby. I decided my time was too valuable and he had to go.
This reads like he dumped her and she’s rationalizing it as her decision. Allow me to clarify. Your presence is only a gift if you’re pleasing to look at. It is less of a gift if you think you look as good at 35 as you did at 25, and you are saddled with kid baggage from another man. (This is starting to sound like a broken record. But it needs to be said, over and over, apparently.)
7. Allow your man to believe he is in charge. Men like to play the dominant role in relationships, so why not encourage the fantasy? This summer, I was with a man who was sensitive about women using him for his money. He watched me like a hawk, so my usual tactics were no good. But he was open to spending extravagantly at charity events, fine restaurants and so on. So I invited him to my friends’ events and establishments — where he was free to spend money — and I remained quiet and pretty, as he required me to be.
She’s contradicting herself. Above she says she does not allow men to dominate her. Here, she says she encourages men to dominate her. Oh, but of course she couches it in terms of “letting him feel like” he is dominating her. Hair-splitting. He’s either making the decisions, giving her orders and demanding she look pretty and remain quiet, or he’s not. Leave it to a single mom stripper to vomit whatever ill-conceived toddler babbling happens to scoot across her gyrating frontal lobe.
Not that there isn’t some substance to the advice to placate a man’s desire to dominate. A woman who constantly battles a man for dominance is an unloved woman. Men don’t respond on a visceral level to those kinds of women. And it works the other direction, too: men who renege on their duty to dominate are often pushed around and unloved by the women in their lives.
8. As a woman, it’s my right to act bitchy on occasion. When a man first approaches me, I’m icy cold and dismissive. The weak men leave. The ones who are up for a challenge stick around and show their charm and wit, and may land a date. Refer to mantra No. 4 (dog training) — along with boundaries, give rewards when due — leading to mantra No. 6 (value). A woman’s time, smile and interest are valuable and can be rewarded to the man who deserves her attention. Being icy or lukewarm at first also maintains an element of mystery. In addition, refer to mantra No. 5 (woman never pays). A man does not deserve a woman’s phone number without buying her and her friend(s) a drink, not to mention paying their entire bar tab.
Any man who buys a girl *and* her yakking yenta friends drinks, and pays their entire bar tab, just to get her precious, gold-plated number, is, by definition, an emasculated, hopeless beta who has the masturbation stamina of ten men. I doubt very much this skank ho would respect, let alone desire, such a man.
Mostly, what she writes here in point #8 is a rewording of the conventional wisdom that a woman who puts out too easily will harm her chance to get men to commit to her. (Leave aside her admonition to be bitchy. That’s not advice. It’s just a recognition that hot chicks will shit test men to discern their alphaness.) There is some truth in the CW. Beta and alpha men alike subconsciously downgrade loose women from potential girlfriend material to funtime sluts. But a woman has to carefully walk that tightrope; too much coyness, playing hard-to-get and bitchiness, and the alpha males of her dreams will quickly find sweeter and moister pastures. Too little, and they will relegate her to fuckbuddy status. And herein lies the main problem with “girl game”:
Girl game is effective at manipulating exactly the kinds of men women desire the least.
Horny, desperate betas — not sexually satisfied alphas — are the ones who will allow themselves to be toyed with by scheming girls. If those are the men you want, ladies, you can’t go wrong listening to the dating advice of a washed-up wednesday night stripper single mom.
Luckily for us men, game — real game — is just what the best looking girls crave.
I am sure you will find this link of interest:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/she_plans_to_stray_awhile_opuo0dDOjE39dfRDdUZ1sM
She did him a favor. She could have taken his kids in the middle of the night and ruined his life. He got off lucky.
“He watched me like a hawk, so my usual tactics were no good. ”
So she was stealing from him???
I’d bet anything she’s broken all her own rules 1000 times in the past just to get pumped and dumped by some alpha.
This chick was actually married to a very wealthy fund manager who was arrested for massively defrauding his clients. Read an article abotu it last year. He is now in jail and all the money is gone, but she definitely has serious golddigger chops and track record. This advice isn’t really the same as “The Rules” from the 90s, which, as I recall, was mainly about women playing hard-to-get games to manipulate men into commitment- apart from sex or sex appeal. This advice is more like knowing the value of, and trading on, a sexy body and appearance. (I think that’s what she must have meant by “boundaries”: withhold sex, companionship, etc. to get what she wants. So a little more base than “The Rules.”
The best line I remember from the press piece abotu this chick: “WHen your financial advisor marries a stripper, it’s a bit of a tell.”
What does it tell?
” a road-worn and tossed away wet ex-stripper single mom with enough cock notches on her vagina wall to make it look like a gynecological cave painting.)”
LOL love this line.
Yeah, me too. So funny.
I know how not to let a male dominate me. The one consistent thing for all types of men: consistent enforcement of boundaries and giving rewards when they deserve them.
Note how her goal isn’t to find romance or to start a family. It’s a vulgar grab for power. She vies to be Sun Tzu for the “fairer” sex. This is the American woman. Then I saw the title of her article, “How to get what you want from men” – the man is just a means to some external end. The man himself isn’t the end goal.
She is a hooker to the *core.* I wonder if she was to begin with, or stripping made her so.
Don’t bet on the latter unless you’re smoking hot.
I don’t know, there are plenty of rich losers, even without harems.
[Heartiste: True. But those are the kind of men that women rarely fall in love with. Not that this manjawed stripper would know anything about love.]
Girl game is effective at manipulating exactly the kinds of men women desire the least.
Well put.
The best girl game is no game.
Athol Kay talks about the mix of alpha and beta characteristics in maintaining a relationship. For men, both are mostly behavioral. But for women, “alpha” characteristics are just physical. A woman needs to have the best appearance possible, but all her behavior needs to be beta, that is cooperative, kind, caring, and supportive.
[Heartiste: If only more women were in on this secret.]
Most women only damage their relationship potential with their behavior. If this bitch wasn’t so full of herself she would still be married to the first guy.
[She got a rich beta funderboy to marry her back when she looked younger, hotter, tighter, and then he was “emotionally distant” until the day he was thrown in the clink for nefarious financial shenanigans. Well, no shit. She was nothing but a trophy pussy for him to display at company retreats and client homes. Now she’s left with a bastard and a rapidly aging face and she wants to snag herself a sucker beta again before it’s too late. Lady, that ship sailed a while ago.]
Her tactics are repellant — at least to me.
Her baggage is so toxic kevlar wouldn’t be enough.
Notably every one of her gambits is manipulative. Ugh.
No man who ever had sisters could fall for them.
It’s teenage thinking pretty much across the board.
“It’s teenage thinking pretty much across the board.”
Typical woman then.
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Does nobody see anything wrong with a society that has stripper give dating advice?
I have nothing against strippers, I even have one on my rotation but they are far from being the right people to give advice to other girls.
[Heartiste: In the final stage of decay, fools are the wise, the wise fools.]
heartiste
Ex-Stripper Describes Her “Girl Game”
Girls feel compelled to contribute something – anything – about the concept of game.
They are mesmerized by its mythical power on a deeply emotional level so they default to the usual response to such stimulus: talking.
NO BROAD
feels more compelled
to talk of things she doesn’t know shit about…than a stripper.
Females have NO comparable weapon to game.
So, in an American where the little princesses are constantly told they’re better than men (in every way)
they start to make up stuff, like Indians did when confronted by repeating firearms: Girls start to believe in their version of Spirit Animals that imbue them with invincibility against “bullets.”
Heap big good.
no…there was a post on it a few weeks back, the difference between hot and sultry. How sexiness or the appearance of being willing to have sex can raise a girl’s point value in the eye of the beholder.
“they start to make up stuff, like Indians did when confronted by repeating firearms: Girls start to believe in their version of Spirit Animals that imbue them with invincibility against “bullets.” “
A+
Oh great…relationship advice from ex-strippers….whatever happened to Dear Abby, lol…
Sounds to me like her hamster wheel has been getting too much oil
That chick has the face of Wonkette, must be the anal sex. Oh did the host mention that this chick is an aging ex-stripper with bastard kids and that that status should curtail how persuasive one should consider her advice?
From experience, women who think they have “game” and are able to manipulate men and control the frame and “not be dominated” are the EASIEST women to lay lol My buddy and I show eachother txts and shit when girls try hitting us from the “I MAY allow you the privilege of taking me out, and my wallet does NOT exist, I know my mere presence is worth the cost of a steak dinner” frame and we just laugh and say “aw that’s cute.”
These ones will not just fuck the fastest (they’ll lead a beta through months of dating for sex, but if you pass all their shit-tests they’ll sleep with you the first night), but they usually want the most dominating/humiliating sex.
For men interested in an eye-opening look at “girl game”:
http://forum.stripperweb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=133
Yes, strippers have a forum where they discuss how to make the most money off men. They even discuss how to get a guy to keep coming back as a regular without having to put out, how to get him to go to the ATM repeatedly, how to handle cocky guys who try to run game on them, how to spot guys who won’t pay, etc.
And funnily enough, a LOT of their concepts line up dead on with PUA/Chateau concepts that us men use. 🙂 It’s almost as if human psychology is universal and we’re not all beautiful and unique snowflakes, imagine that.
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=164107 – Here’s their thread discussing this article haha
damn, you mean there’s really no sex in the champagne room?
“8. As a woman, it’s my right to act bitchy on occasion. When a man first approaches me, I’m icy cold and dismissive. The weak men leave.” Sorry dahlink, but that would be the SMART men you see turning around and leaving your crazy dried-up ass sitting alone at the bar …
Girl game 101:
1) Be hot.
2) Be under 27 years old.
3) Keep your legs closed.
4) Don’t say anything stupid.
As for her points:
1) I prefer confidence to crippling insecurity, but FFS ladies, don’t overdo it. Confidence is a masculine trait, therefore it’s only beneficially attractive to men.
2) Goals are important, and she made a good point until talking about a ‘goal’ of fucking a male pornstar. Are some women so delucional that they think that them having sex with any man requires some effort on their part?
3) I actually agree. I don’t want to wait forever, but a girl that shows too much interest will 97% of the time never end up more than a casual fuckbuddy (and I will fuck her after the first date).
4) Her failed metaphor aside, this is her most sound piece of advice; stay hot, be flirty, be fun.
5) Men who take women that they aren’t banging on dinner dates are suckers. As for men being ‘ashamed’ to go dutch on a date, where are these men? I think it’s a sign of good character if a girl wants to split the tab (or *gasp!* even pick it up once in a while), so do almost all the men that I know.
6) If your presence is so valuable, why then do you string along guys who believe this and fuck the guys who don’t? I’d have less of a problem with the lies if I couldn’t feel the Hamster trying to make her believe them.
7) Any man with sufficient game (read: a basic, fundamental level) will be in charge a good 90% of the time.
8) Of course it is, it’s the cost of doing business, but don’t come in here and pretend that women are never bitchy for no apparent reason.
Comments like this make me sooo anxious :S
Priceless prose:
“Although you have to wonder about the kind of man who would be willing to pony up big bucks for a useless rock and ceremony to geld himself by marrying a road-worn and tossed away wet ex-stripper single mom with enough cock notches on her vagina wall to make it look like a gynecological cave painting.”
“A woman with *clinically* low self-esteem, (as distinct from nearly all women who are told they have low self-esteem but in actuality are full of themselves)>..”
The late alpha male Carlos Castaneda said that self-victimization/low self-esteem is merely the shadow side of self-imporance/narcisism. It’s the same thing.
There’s lots more gold here, but what I want to know is this:
where do I get the kevlar condoms? If no such thing exists, somebody ought to invent one right quick. The market is begging for such innovation.
“The late alpha male Carlos Castaneda said that self-victimization/low self-esteem is merely the shadow side of self-imporance/narcisism. It’s the same thing.”
I have very low self-esteem, but I agree with this, though with shame. It is hard to admit to myself that the root of my problems is something as disgusting as narcissism. Realizing this is actually what has helped to boost my self-esteem a bit, ironically.
Yes. People with low self-esteem feel they are ‘too good’ for their current life circumstances. They feel they deserve better than who and what they are, thus, the negative self-image.
As you alluded to, radical self-acceptance is the key to transcending that. For myself, my low self esteem disintegrated once I realized that underneath my nice-guy exterior was an aloof asshole, and one that is in full possession of his darker instincts. Polite, PC feminized society teaches us to reject parts of ourselves and try to be something we’re not. Eliminate that, and the rest is easy.
Wise words indeed. Thanks.
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Great post.
Besides looks, here is what constitutes girl game:
-Acting ditzy and submissive
-Cooking
-Cleaning
-Back, shoulder and foot rubs
May help those in the 4.5 and up range. Below that, well…..
“Horny, desperate betas — not sexually satisfied alphas — are the ones who will allow themselves to be toyed with by scheming girls. If those are the men you want, ladies, you can’t go wrong listening to the dating advice of a washed-up wednesday night stripper single mom.”
This is a nuclear bomb of truth to set the hamster straight and pull the veil back from its eyes.
Slightly off topic:
Mystery was consistently referring to dating strippers when he wanted to display preselection and high value.
I never used the routine because I’m a little bit dubious. The current feminist propaganda made cases of chronic projection very widespread. As repeatedly said in this venerable chateau, women are attracted to confident, successful men, so they assume that men want (and should be attracted to) the same qualities in women.
So why then miss that opportunity and keep referring to trashy strippers instead of lawyers (i know, i know…), doctors or CEOs?
I tend to do just that and It works fine. The key of course (especially with low achieving chicks) is not to make it sound like a big deal. And feign during comfort building that you’re interested in something more meaningful and profound.
Maybe, I’m KJing here but making shit up about dating strippers would be a good strategy to game lawyers, doctors and CEOs.
Or maybe, just maybe, Mystery is indirectly assuming that women are projecting to strippers the alpha male qualities that they crave (desired by many, only one is chosen)… even though strippers are viewed by men as filthy cumdumpsters.
Gosh, there is some serious reeducation work that needs to be done. Keep preaching, brother.
I’ve found that telling women that I date dancers is a big DHV. Often there’s some confusion around what being a ‘dancer’ is. And often a lot of overlap in dance styles.
Case in point: One girl I’ve been seeing recently is a modern dancer as well as a burlesque dancer. Burlesque dancers are about 2″ of fabric away from being strippers–they wear pasties over their nipples. They often have a lot more sultry sexuality built into their acts as well. Whereas strippers can be sexy, but are often just trashy.
Another girl, same deal–modern, burlesque, in addition to having a past history as a stripper. In general, I’ve noticed very positive reactions when casually mentioning this dating history when the subject comes up. Though those girls who see themselves as ‘good girls,’ will often get simultaneously aroused and fearful. Also, a quick mention is all it takes, mention it then change the subject, don’t belabor the point. Let that hamster run!
Awww. You mad?
[Heartiste: U projecting?]
When a woman is “35, old and a single mom” the beta male is exactly what she desires for commitment
[No, she desires the alpha male for commitment. But she will get the beta and sulk about it.]
so dismissing her advice as only working for beta males is moot. She wants someone who commits and will give her resources= beta.
[And she’ll never feel that tingle again.]
That’s like when girls chide gamers that they will only get hot girls who aren’t ambitious.
[I don’t hear anti-game girls saying that. What I hear them saying is that gamers will only get low self-esteem sluts. Which is obviously untrue. Game is to men what beauty is to women: it attracts all members of the opposite sex.]
Well duh, that’s what they want.
[Men want hot chicks. Women want powerful men.]
Both sides are projecting what they think is attractive onto the other.
[Projection is a universal psychological failing, but women evince it in much greater degree than do men. Chalk it up to women being able to coast through reality on their looks. For a while at least.]
Her advice is fine and will serve it’s purpose.
[…to make aging single moms out of women.]
If a woman wanted an alpha as you like to see it (someone who sleeps around, doesn’t commit, won’t pay easily, elicits that visceral sexual response), they would act differently.
[No, silly girl. They don’t act differently because they *can’t* act differently. After a certain, uh, expiration date has been reached, no alpha male will put up with them. In fact, few alpha males will put up with overly coy golddiggers even when they are at their hottest.]
Those men are only good for one thing. [and yes I realize that you will view it as the woman who gets used in that scenario but who cares about your perception when a woman is getting pleased and is discrete]
[That’s just something loser chicks who get pumped and dumped a lot tell themselves.]
Why are you so bitter towards old or ugly women?
[False premise. I lacerate the deluded, man or woman. Bitterness ain’t got nothin to do with it.]
If you aren’t dating them or boning them, why do they matter to you so much that you have to make posts on what they say?
[Because it gives me pleasure to flay their souls.]
Girl game is effective at manipulating exactly the kinds of men women desire the least.
I always thought this was exactly the point.
“Girl game” isn’t aimed at teaching girls skills in manipulating men it’s aimed at (indirectly) teaching girls to pick men that are in their league* and if it’s applied soon enough she’ll actually bond with the guy.
Pretty devious when you think about it.
* Girls would sooner pick men out of their league – those men don’t put up with “girl game” tactics. The men who stick around are those who aren’t.
[Heartiste: This is a bit contortionist, but I get your point. Nevertheless, when most women — particularly aging single moms — think about girl game, they think about how it will help them finally land that alpha male of their dreams.]
[Heartiste: This is a bit contortionist, but I get your point. Nevertheless, when most women — particularly aging single moms — think about girl game, they think about how it will help them finally land that alpha male of their dreams.]
Such projection.
[Heartiste: That word doesn’t mean what you think it means. But keep flailing. It amuses me.]
All the old, worn out puss, weary women I’ve heard of just wants a guy to worship them.
[Women want the love of a top dog. But only the hottest, youthful, feminine women have a shot at getting commitment from such men (who are, after all, much fewer in number than the demand for them). So women who are aging, or ugly, or fat, or burdened with spawn baggage, or generally unpleasant to be around, will have to settle for lesser men who will have them. Or remain single. And the further a woman’s SMV is damaged, the more she has to settle. She of course will spin this settling as something she wanted to do all along, but those of us who are vivisectors of the human condition know better. Heh heh heh.]
And if anything, to be rich/ able to provide.
[You seem to be under the mistaken belief that only betas are rich providers. Step outside the house sometime.]
They don’t want some charming alpha male.
[And men don’t want some hardbody 10 either. *off sarcasm*]
They’ve had their fun with those before and they are over it.
[Keep telling yourself that.]
It seems to benefit all involved.
[Somewhere a divorce raped beta wept.]
The beta finally gets a girl who may be a (fainting) beauty.
[Your mistake is in believing betas want “fainting” beauties. They don’t. They want peak beauties, unsullied by numerous cocks. But since they are betas they will settle for the dregs of womanhood. Or porn. Which, btw, is what we are seeing happen today in our society currently in a state of advanced decay. Porn, video games, delayed marriage and fertility clinics as far as the eye can see.]
The alphas don’t have to deal with old cougars and get the young, bubblies they desire.
[The betas don’t want to deal with the old cougars either.]
The old women get to have had their fun and now get security.
[So certain r u?]
I’m not sure why this concept upsets you so?
[Silly cougar, I’m not upset. I’m having a grand time watching you spin your delusions.]
Are you a beta getting old puss left overs?
[Is that any way to describe your charms?]
Female “Anonymous” says:
All the old, worn out puss, weary women I’ve heard of just wants a guy to worship them.
There is a glaring diference between what they SAY and what they WANT.
You seem to assume that the women you met (aging, probably ugly, baggage-ed, worn out) will really come out clean and say they wanted someone (alpha) they know thay have no chance in grabing.
“Is that any way to describe your charms”?
LMFAO!
This girl is so far off it belies the fact that she is, as other commenters put it a hooker to the core. I grew up around women like this, and it’s the scent of a failgirl(tm).
I won’t speak about disqualification in terms of girl game, they have that down. They discovered “being a bitch”. If you want to land a man that is above you and keep him, you have to try (which is a world inherently male. most girls just have to be born and thats it.). What they need is skills. A proper girl removes distraction and noise from the ideas that create a mans life. If a mans world is truly her frame, and she submits to it, this is best.
It is her duty to keep it clean and functioning better then when she got there.
The only way someone will ever do that right is if they actually like it that frame. She has to know subconsciously shes yours. The only thing a girl can do in terms of game is open herself up more and more to that without falling in love with the “idea of submission”.
Specifically a girl can do the following to gain points beyond beauty:
++++++++++Create a sub-harem where you bring him girls to fuck. This is the only way to keep an ltr going forever. You must whiddle his standards down with your age by leveraging either other women or…
+++++++…Learn how make a guy cum till he can’t walk (this almost replaces beauty if you can find it — keyword ALMOST)
+++Learn how to sing, or some other creative element that demonstrates inner beauty. The most skills the better.
+Learn nutrition then keep him healthy. Any detail like this, something best done with “love” is something both people can do and it’s pretty kick ass, but not in a “its worth it not to suck this dick in front of me way” which is the only measurement that matters in a world of infinite choice.
Theres others, but really, of all the old people ive talked to before their life was taken, these themes stay consistent.
Girls must learn to control other girls to be seen as the princesses and queens they want to be.
Men should learn how to sing too. One can’t become a crooner or a rockstar overnight, but the voice can definitely be improved.
I’m not really a good singer but i practiced a few songs on recorder during my beta days. They turned out to be useful post game.
One of my fwb had her cousin die in a car crash. We met shortly afterwards. She was sad, mourning and unreceptive. At one point, I started to sing “Lean on me” by bill withers.
She melted, and for weeks, she was mine, completely.
I really wish i was a better singer with a wider repertoire. But if you don’t have the passion, it’s hard to have the patience to learn properly.
“This will encourage ugly, old and fat girls to avoid putting in the necessary work to make themselves more attractive to men. Newsflash, ladies: No, you can’t have it all. You can have what your best assets will bring you by maximizing their impact and minimizing the impact of your worst liabilities. Some liabilities, of course, are not mitigable. PS: Getting a male porn star to fuck you is not an accomplishment. Getting him to love you and commit to you is.”
This is the problem with not only woman’s advice but their actions in the dating world.
Every woman thinks she’s the hottest thing goin or is taught to think that way.
So when the men don’t approach we get ridiculous articles about men not “manning up” simply because they can’t get a date.
Advice about “Game” may get ridiculous at times but at least there’s an understanding that not every guy when applying “Game” will be beating woman off with a stick.
So we then get advice that can be used by men who aren’t the most good looking or financially well off.
What a complete and utter cunt of a woman.
ANY MALE WILLING TO PAY A TAB OF DRINKS JUST TO GET A WOMAN’S NUMBER SHOULD JUST GET A WHORE..THE SAME FOR A WOMAN….GET A MALE PROSTITUTE!……THAT’S WHY MARRIAGE IS SO SPECIAL. GET THE RIGHT MATE, AND REMAIN TRUTHFUL, AND LOYAL…HOW CAN YOU GO WRONG.
RAYMOND C.Q. KAIKAHALAULUPALAKUA T.N.W. TAINAAN, III
greatbookz4men part II?
“Very shy girls who are pretty will arouse a deep, instinctive authoritarian desire in men to protect and sexually serve. Women don’t need to be loudmouths or assertive if they are cute. It helps, in fact, if they are a little effacing and deferential. A woman with *clinically* low self-esteem, (as distinct from nearly all women who are told they have low self-esteem but in actuality are full of themselves), can temper a man’s lust by slouching, mumbling and denigrating herself. Why? Because men will think she’s not interested.”
I personally grew up very shy with a clincally low self-esteem (a by-product of anxiety) as Heartiste calls it. For the most part, men have looked at me and not approached, and this reinforced my own beliefs that I was an ugly duckling. I was then often confused by the men who did approach me and my extreme shyness would eventually drive them away.
Recently some self-realizations have boosted my self-esteem a bit and though I am still shy, I have become a lot more friendly. The number of men approaching me has increased and I have noticed that my shy and submissive nature makes otherwise beta men act more dominant and protective around me. Sometimes I find it intimidating, but I talk myself out of doing things to drive them away.
On a similar note, while I agree that there is no such thing as girl game, per se, a lot of girls still need to be taught about what thrasymachus33308 mentioned in his comment above (“A woman needs to have the best appearance possible, but all her behavior needs to be beta, that is cooperative, kind, caring, and supportive.”). Because as logical as it is, too many girls are doing the exact opposite and expecting alpha males to fall at their feet.
Anyway, sorry for the long self-centered post.
[Heartiste: There’s nothing to be sorry for. Now let’s banish that low self-esteem to the icy wastelands. I’ll start.
How tall are you?
How old are you?
How much do you weigh?
Which celebrity do you most resemble?
Do you do anal?
I’m such a steenker!]
I’m convinced that half of the advice she sputters is intended within the female sex; girls want to compete amongst themselves for the top dog, so they have to have girl game. Why else would a girl believe this? If she is walking alone through a corporate banquet full of lantern jawed trophies, she is going to be meek as a mouse. If it is a banquet full of wives, she is going to turn the strut up to ten thousand.
I know a girl who was femininely hot. Adjectives I would use to describe her include meek, dainty, cuddly, bright face, and big tits for her small size. I think that about sums it up.
This is actually EXCELLENT advice…for her fellow strippers, prostitutes and gold-diggers. I have no doubt this advice (be bitchy and demanding, look hot, make him pay for everything) would work very well for women seeking lonely sadsack men to hustle out of their money. In that respect, Ms. Passage is spot on.
For a woman looking for love, respect and commitment from a worthy man, however, it’s pure insanity. Her advice boils human relationships down to a simple cash transaction. Any intelligent, decent man will see right through this and bolt: she is encouraging women to literally filter them out and go straight for the dregs. This is great for strippers, not so great for average women.
“6. My presence is a gift.” Translated to English from the original Hamsterspeak, this means “My sense of entitlement has driven me completely batshit crazy.”
I highly doubt this ex-stripper ever dated any real alpha’s, that’s if you don’t count being a member of a black pimp’s stable as being in a relationship with an alpha.
Most strippers are whores, (not that most of you wouldn’t know already lols), and a great majority of them have drug problems. I worked as a bouncer for a few dance clubs in Vegas back in the day and have first person experience with the scene. Most of these girls fluctuate between black pimps that beat them and beta providers that help pay their rent once in a while.
This broad’s got a case of Princess Entitlement Complex that could knock a buzzard off a shitpile.
“Girl game is effective at manipulating exactly the kinds of men women desire the least.”
It’s funny, because guy game is most effective on the kinds of women men desire the most. Seems like another case where the sexes complement each other in a yin-yang fashion.
Listening to this woman’s advice about men is like hearing Egyptian history from an Afro-centrist… too much nigger in the woodpile.
What amazes me is the attention this article is getting. It’s what’s known as “filler” in the publishing biz. Read ‘Glamour’ or ‘Cosmo’ and you’ll see one of these a month (at least–Cosmo has more like 3 per issue). They always say the same thing: be confident, hold your head high, make him pay, you’re the catch, etc. The only thing that makes this one notable is that apparently an ex-stripper somehow wrote it.
The NYP is known as essentially all filler these days. It’s almost as worthless a tabloid as Germany’s “Bild” but without the porn.
How to hide desperation and is hiding your true self a smart thing to do? Thanks.
I just have to say that finding this blog in my early 20′s has been great. Thank you for showing me the true abhorrent nature of women. This woman is the lowest scum that society has to offer.
Maybe this chick should write an article about removing crabs and other diseases infesting her dry vaj.
“Girl game” is being an 18 year old piece of ass with perfect skin, fat young tits and a tight, sweet, untouched ass offered up like a wiggling puppy.
Good to see the hard prose stylings of our original host in full effect. Keep up the in-thread flayings, one of the most enjoyable aspects of the blog.
Maya weeps and flicks the bean. 😉
I think it’s much healthier for the lesser betas to stick to porn and hookers in the long run, considering the state of affairs in family law. Even with Game, most of us won’t make it into the top-tier of men (because we lack the resources, family ties, connections or abilities required), and those who have no game at all are better off not saddling themselves with a 4-5 who will later assrape them in court.
An ex-stripper single mom giving advice and MSM displaying it for the masses… the deception continues.
The glorification of single moms is part of the marxist agenda. Like all marxist BS is pure illusion. There is no way a single moother ex-strippepr is morally qualified to give dating advices for other girls.
“Girl game is effective at manipulating exactly the kinds of men women desire the least.”
All too true.
By the time they realized that the man who walked away from them was actually rejecting her (as opposed to being weak) it’s too late.
Like most bad game, this is destined for failure, as her life is centered around men and not herself.
That stripper forum is great for a laugh. Here is a link to an entry where a soon to be worn out whore talks about how hard it is to keep a positive attitude after four years of stripping when she is only in it for the money.
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?s=3f1b09d2b509fa3d9e121314312ea56f&t=163763
I’m surprised that would be femicunt Anonymous hasn’t said anything about manning up. Though I’m sure her hamster is getting worked up towards it.
In the old days it was the colleges who taught women to act like men and to morph their minds with liberal androgenous epistomology. Now, if they don’t get it in college, the really dumb ones get bernankified by tv.
Her kid is black. What a surprise.
http://nymag.com/news/articles/11/09/diane-passage/
One thing to remember about all online blogs, postings, etc. is to not take everything at face value.
For example, medical marijuana. I support it, but for a different reason than most. I want all my peers to get high as shit so I can land the jobs they can’t apply for.
As for this stripper, she could be trolling also. An easy way to date quality men is to reduce the dating pool of quality women.
Believe nothing online and field test everything before setting beliefs.
moother = mother