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The Sad, Bitter End

Days of Broken Arrows sent an online dating profile* (link removed to avoid giving suicidal thoughts to subject matter) of a 46-year-old spinster who seethes with so much bitterness and spite toward men, and so much loathing for male desire, that it’s a good bet she’s had no experience at all pleasing men except in the most perfunctory manner: by spreading her legs and letting them drain their balls in her.

I found an online personal from a woman in the XX area that’s so over the top with anger I thought it would be worth a post from you. I considered asking if I could do a guest post, but would rather read your words of wisdom (or just see you paste in the copy with minimal comment to underscore its ridiculousness).
The personal is from a 46-year-old career-woman, who looks to have already hit the wall and apparently didn’t find what she was looking for so she rewrote her profile to be an (unintentionally comical) rant about men in their forties.
This confirms every post you ever ran. I’m thinking if you ran this verbatim on your blog it would become nearly as popular as that NYC woman seeking a millionaire on Craig’s List who provoked that response about “decelerating value” in 2007.

*cracks knuckles* I’ve sprinkled a few editorial comments throughout her profile, in boldface.

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My self-summary

So this is it–I’m not looking, I honestly don’t care if I meet anyone on here anymore [ed: try not to shout so loudly how little you care]–and this is what I’ve learned about the men that I have had interactions on here with a little parting advice. [translation: a little pent-up hopelessness.]

If you are over 40 and you do not take care of yourself, unless you truly don’t care that a woman is dating you for your money, then maybe a better site for you is sugarbaby.com

Those of us that are of a certain age and reasonably successful on here are on here, want to meet someone reasonable–intelligent, successful, happy, that we’re attracted to physically and emotionally, not because we’re desperate, but usually because we’re too busy to date, or we do not wish to date through our work. We have businesses to run, we travel frequently, or we be on here because our friends and family are bugging us about being single and this is way to get them off our backs. What that means is–
1. We are not desperate–we do not need you to have a fulfilling life.
2. We are busy people–just like you–and we mean what we say, and say what we mean because we don’t have time to play silly word games or have drama like 20 somethings.
3. The silly little texting games are the fastest way to blow it. If we give you permission to call–then call–don’t text to see if its ok to call–we have a life–random texts from people we don’t know don’t cut it if we haven’t met you.
4. If we ask you not to contact us further–then don’t–unless you want to appear as a crazy person.
5. If we call you on the above..we’re not crazy, or scary..we just don’t have time to waste on people who don’t get it. We deal enough with that in our work.
6. Life gets shorter for us every day–we have no time or desire for drama, games or people who do not have their act together.
7. If we reject you after you have done any of the above, put your big boy pants on and move on.
8. We are not angry–we know what we want–we know what we’re willing to put up with. With age, the list of what we want gets a little longer, while the list of what we’re willing to put up with gets infinitely smaller because we have learned from our youth. [when in reality, the older a woman, the shorter the list of what she can get, and the longer the list of crap she has to be willing to put up with to secure a relationship.]

If you actually want to date a woman of a certain age [euphemism for older] who takes care of herself [euphemism for “managed to avoid getting grossly obese, but not the hardbody I once was”], then you need to take care of yourself too. Seriously [just in case you weren’t taking her seriously enough] –none of us want to date anyone who is overweight and out of shape–even if you have millions of dollars in the bank… [fat millionaires with hot young wives would disagree] even the hardest golddigger will use you for your money and then keep something nice on the side–usually paid for by you. [sounds more like wishful hoping.]

Seriously [i’m serious for you, cougarmama!] understand, that why you may want to relive your life and feel good about yourself from dating a 20 year old [yes, it feels pretty good to date a 20 year old] –she’s only using you for your money [men who are being used for their money still prefer it to the alternative. namely, you] , and after a while, you will be either extremely bored [it takes a much longer while for a man to get bored with a 20 year old hottie than a 46 year old harridan], or driven crazy by the immaturity factor. [whereas this online profile is full of maturity and the wisdom to know what attracts men] –unless you are a really damaged insecure man to start with. [only undamaged, secure men would look past the youth, beauty and femininity of younger women to date premenopausal crones.]

Nobody does us like us [and a tri-pronged purple saguaro]–if you don’t understand this statement, then you probably should be dating a 20 something who doesn’t know enough about herself that you will seem like magic. [yes, ladies, you have no idea what makes your ginas tingle until you hit 46 wise spinstera years.]

Don’t write to us to tell us why you’re not good enough in response to our profile, or to be witty–we don’t want our email box clogged–and you are neither as witty nor as clever as you think and the lack of self esteem is just, well…sad. [what man wouldn’t flock to such a loving specimen of womanhood!] Remember, what works well in person, plays pretty badly in print. [“bend over and take it up your flabby flat ass, you wretched ogress”?]

Trying to start a family while you are in your mid-to late forties is cruel to your potential children–unless you’re adopting older kids. [humans live longer because older men have had kids with younger women. it’s scientifically true!] Because by the time they figure out that you’re actually cool, you will be dead and you will not be able to see your grandchildren. [i’m pretty sure the first thought going through any man’s head upon bedding you is how your advanced years allow him to blast inside you free of the risk of knocking you up.]

Badmouthing your ex to us, especially when you have children, who share half the DNA of your ex, shows us that you don’t really love your kids.

We are not your honey, beautiful, sweetie, lovemuffin, or any other endearment that you write to us in an initial email. [any man writing *you* this in a first email has provided evidence that he is a loser. but, honey, these are the kinds of men you can expect to get at your age] We don’t know you, have never met you, and therefore you are not entitled to use that familiarity and if you do–you’ve blown it. [many men’s hearts are broken] You may not ever be entitled to use that term unless we get naked with you, and even then…the use of it is questionable. [to be rejected by a woman who’s almost old enough to be a grandmother in some cultures… the indignity!]

The excuse that I’m ashamed of being on the internet dating or I’m well known and incognito therefore won’t post my photos or give you my number is generally a flag that you’re cheating on someone or you have a highly inflated sense of self. [or they’re embarrassed about being seen in public with you] It’s the 21st century–get with the program, nearly everyone in the world is dating on the internet–with say the exception of 3rd world aboriginals (and 1st world aboriginals living in the Australian Outback). [dats raaaaciss!]

Don’t date someone who does not have similar lifestyle interests–if you’re in to veganism, patchouli, artistic and yoga retreats–don’t ask a hard driving businesswoman who is into scotch, cigars, steaks, golf and dealmaking out–and don’t be upset with her if she turns you down. She knows better than you that it won’t work. [“we’ve got a manjaw sighting in red sector A, sarge.” “nuke it from orbit.” “we’ll need a bigger nuke, sarge.”]

If you’re really that deeply involved and attached to your political, religious, philosophical beliefs, to the point where you should either be on Fox News or whatever the extreme liberal network equivalent–then don’t date someone who is diametrically opposed to you or anyone with any kind of common sense for that matter–all you’re doing is looking for drama and a fight. [lovemuffin, has it never occurred to you that the reason you might be dating all these diametrically opposed men is because they don’t see you as anything more than a convenient tumble in the hay and therefore not worth screening for a deeper connection?]

There is not a single woman that I know, including myself, that wants to date a man who is significantly younger than ourselves–media hype aside– [truest thing you’ve said in this whole shitshow] because frankly, we actually want to be with a man–not a boy we have to teach or that needs a manual–not a guy who’s putting notches on his belt–but a man preferably one who takes all night to do what he used to do all night. [surreptitiously watch porn while you slept?]

If you are between 25-35, even if you have millions of dollars, you actually have nothing of interest to women over 35 [aaaand, we’re back to the bullshit] –unless they have self-esteem issues, in which case, you will eventually end up with a chick in rehab, or a mental health facility, or someone you’re filing a restraining order against.

If you are over 60 trying to date a 40 something woman [a perfectly realistic goal for men of that age, since the sex ratio by then is skewed in men’s favor and women are well-known to find a lot more traits potentially attractive in men than their physiques] –Gravity takes it toll on you too..[gravity is kinder to men than women. think of women as jupiter, with its immense gravity crushing all semblance of supple ass cheeks and boobs. men looking from earth are like “fuck jupiter, i’m going to venus!”] and in a lot of cases, it is not pretty. If you did not take care of yourself..better have millions of dollars–or hire a nurse. [or be a charming, confident SOB.]

Read our profile, we took the time to write it–don’t email us an ask us to explain ourselves, our hobbies, if we took the time to explain everything about us in the profile. If you really want to get to know us, ask us out. [older women don’t have all the time in the world for flirting. they gotta get right to it.]

If you were raised by a single or divorced woman, who is pissed off at your father, work out those mommy issues before dating. We’re sorry your mom took the divorce out on you or the fact that your father didn’t know how to be a man or a father however..that’s no reason for you to take it out on us. [true. but some women are so much easier for men to take out their issues on. we call those women “low value”.]

We don’t need Brad Pitt..but we want someone with good hygiene, that can dress reasonably well–if you don’t know how to dress–go to The Gap–it’s Garanimals for grownups [jesus], we also want someone that knows how to eat with their mouth closed and that can cook at least one meal that doesn’t involve a microwave. [again, if you are a 46-year-old woman, you are going to find yourself getting a lot of attention from uncouth, slobby men. the classy men you want are busy hitting on women half your age.] We also want to be with someone that we know is not going to collapse from a heartattack walking up a flight of stairs or the half a block walk in the mall parking lot.

If you are over 40 and actually want to date a real woman, who, while she may not be Angelina Jolie, then behave like a real man, which means, no–we do not want to have long email diatribes with you. [i can’t argue with this. but i can argue that a woman presumably looking for an online partner should refrain from splattering her profile with her grievances.] We actually want to meet. If we give you our number, actually call–preferably within 24 hours of us giving you our number–sooner is better–WE GAVE YOU OUR NUMBER–CALL. [dear lord. a little introspection, sweetie. if men aren’t calling you back right away, it’s because they don’t really see you as all that worthy of a prompt phone call. how much you wanna bet 22-year-old chicks are getting called back more than they like?] If you’ve no intention of calling, then don’t ask for our number–unless you like having us think that you’re complete jerks and again proving why you are single. [or proving why you’re no longer attractive to decent men at your age] DO NOT TEXT US, TO SEE IF YOU CAN CALL. If you’re past the 24 hour mark, we pretty much know that you’re not interested. So move on.

If you are not interested, just say so–we will move on.

Writing to us in text speak is not an enticement to get us to write you back. An educated woman is not going to rite 2 u this way…[no, but a fun woman is] we don’t want to read what u rite to us. No, we do not care about perfect spelling, however, a basic grammar and sentence construction is appreciated. [you are a 46yo broad. i predict a parade of losers are in your future.]

Do not send us an email asking us how we are. We know that you really don’t care…get to the point already…If you want to meet us, make your case. [“the wall is breathing down my back!”]

Over sharing in your initial email–Big Turn OFF!.

This is not a bar–I know it may seem like it, but there’s a huge obstruction to communication–that being we’re on the internet. We do not want to text you, email you..if we are interested, we actually want to talk to you on the phone, figure out if you’re not a psycho, and then meet you. You can’t tell that by reading someone’s words. Particularly if you are a psycho–you probably write really well. [great zeus’ beard, i do believe i have been tainted.]

Same goes for the outrageous flattery and asking us why we are on here. We are on here for the same reasons you are…we are looking to meet someone to connect with or for the reasons stated above. If we had found this person, or we had flocks of men following us, or were even interested other than to appease social constructs put on us by friends and family, we wouldn’t be spending our time on an online dating site. [any woman who uses the term “social construct” in a non-satirical manner is automatically disqualified as a date prospect. follow this rule and i guarantee many years of happiness to you.]

If we are not interested, we will be honest and tell you–don’t behave like a jerk and call us names because we’re actually being kind in not wasting your time..you’re just proving that there are reasons why you are still single (or in the case of a lot of you..divorced). If you blow it with us, by doing any of the above things, and we ask you to stop communicating–we really mean that..move on–trying to get the last word –just proves my other points. [i’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that it sounds like she dates a lot of clueless beta males. now why would that be…. the mind reels at the question.]

Take some decent pictures of yourself. All you really need is a genuine smile and to be dressed reasonably well. If you don’t know how to dress see my previous comment about The Gap. [jesus, again] If you think pictures of you in a tank top, or half naked is appealing then really catch a clue. Honestly, while we are visual creatures just like you–we’d rather see the half naked pictures or the tank top pictures of you after we’ve decided to get naked with you ourselves first and believe us…the mystery of you is much, much better. [the mystery of you 20 years ago is much, much better as well.]

Shaving your chest is not conducive to us wanting to get naked with you. [are you at the age where you shave yours?]

Pictures with kids that aren’t yours, or your dogs in your bed, or your cat are not attractive–they’re just weird. They tells us that you’re trying too hard to show us that you’re a nice guy. [niceguys and older women: perfect together!]

Artistic pictures–unless you are a professional, paid photographer on par with Ansel Adams, are also lame. [women get so cynical with age.]

Pictures where we can’t see your face, or you’re wearing sunglasses–again, big turn off. Just like our pictures like that do nothing for you. [the pictures with your face showing do nothing for us either.]

[incoming 463 bullet point checklist.]

Business portraits are lame too…photos that are 20 years old, we can tell. The tube socks give it away.

Action sport photos of you are also lame, because they could be anybody.

Distance photos of you where we can’t tell if its you–lame–

Don’t contact us if you haven’t taken the time to fill out your profile.

Don’t email us asking us to chat on Yahoo Messenger, Hotmail Addresses or gives that line that you’re out of town–we know you’re scamming.

We honestly don’t care about your bank account, or what you do, unless we’re gold-diggers however, if you’ve been in the same job for 10 years, with no promotion–it’s not impressive.

Coffee is lame as a first date/meeting. Lunch or Cocktail Hour is better.

Not shaving your beard is also not conducive to us wanting to get naked with you or even date you.

If you’re just on here to try and get laid, be honest. Some of us are on here just for that too.

We don’t care if you’re bald, we only care if you’re trying too hard to cover it up.

Pictures of you with your friends is not a good idea–from what I’ve seen, a lot of your friends are way better looking than you.

Pictures with other women draping off of you are also not a good idea..especially if they are really beautiful women, or dressed in scanty clothing..it makes us wonder if that’s your ex, and why are you contacting us, or that you’re really sleazy.

Hawaiin shirts, not a good idea, nor are the Mall Photos.

Pictures of you in a tux..we don’t care–and often you don’t look as good as you think you do.

Pictures of you at a baseball game, in front of a stand and repeat, at hollywood premieres, showing us how important you are, or how famous you are, how many famous people you know–Not impressive. Again, the only women who will care about that are gold diggers, actress wannabe’s. If that’s what you want to date, then great–state that in your profile. Quit writing that you want a relationship.

Pictures with you and your car, or motorcycle..or on someone elses care or motorcycle..not impressive. Neither are the travel shots in exotic places that you have only been to once in your life and are not planning on returning to.

We all like to travel. We have all been places–so what..You’re here now..so what we really want to know is what you are doing with your life right now, what do you really honestly want in a relationship and do we have a chance with you if we aren’t a supermodel? We want to be with someone who is happy with that they do, that we are physically attracted to, able to pay their bills, and have your baggage in a carryon that you can leave at the station.

Every single person wants to find someone to be with, bear that in mind the next time you are rude to someone online who takes the time to write to you and you don’t respond. All it does is hurt someone’s feelings, and show what a rude jerk you are–and demonstrates, yet again, why you are single.

If you have no intention of meeting, then don’t bother to respond to someone who reaches out to you, other than to say you’ve no intention of meeting.

Be kind in your rejection. Saying we’re not a match, or that your’e not interested is preferable to being mean to someone. [yeah, but you make it so easy.]

What I’m doing with my life: [no one gives a shit. not even the guys emailing you for an easy lay.]

I work a lot, and take time to enjoy my life–I have my own business –I’m moving from XX to XX for that business. I am a busy person. [busy busy busy! lookatme be busy! i’m so busy… oh so busy… i’m so busy and busy and siiiingle! and i pity… any girl who isn’t a careerist cunt.]

I’m really good at: [charmless effrontery]

A lot of things…I’ve had a very interesting life and have acquired a lot of skills. I grew up in a very dysfunctional house, and was told everyday that I was ugly, stupid and useless..so in compensation, I learned a lot of things to be a useful person and discovered that kindness is the most beautiful thing there is. [coulda fooled us] As such, my childhood has enriched my life in many ways because I have wonderful friends whom I have developed and kept these many years. [the enrichment will continue until morale improves.]

The first things people usually notice about me: [crows’ feet]

Some people notice that I’m polite and nice to everyone. [polite is not the word i’d use] Others notice that I have great friends and we’re always laughing. [you don’t sound amused] Some have noticed that I treat people with kindness and compassion. [here’s a hint, honey: tough love and a managerialist temperament won’t attract many men. coy femininity and a tight bod will.] Some notice how I look after my friends and how I’m always being stopped for directions and I give good ones. Some people say its my smile, others say its my eyes. Being noticed at all is a compliment…however, I’d rather just be kind, polite and nice and continue to be me, whether I’m noticed or not. [this part of her profile reads like a much younger walk-on came in and polished it up.]

Favorite books, movies, shows, music, and food: [eat, pray, love]

I haven’t owned a television since 1998, so I don’t spend a lot of time on television though when I travel, I watch a lot of Food Network.I’m an omnivore, as long as it doesn’t have bell peppers in it, I’ll eat pretty much anything.Books, let’s just say if it has writing on it, I will read it. I find that my best reads come from reading other things that reference stuff, whether in fiction or in non-fiction. It’s taken me down some fascinating paths. Sadly, I do not have the time I once did to read everything on my ever going list of books to read. Music is the same thing, I love Soundhound and Pandora Radio I hear something I like, I can find it, then discover new things. I like all types of music (ok..well..I kind of draw the line at Swedish Death Metal) thinking about it–let me re-qualify that–it has to be musical..i.e. have some sort of melody, beat–so Yoko Ono…um…not so much. Other than that, what I listen to, depends on my mood and my location.

The six things I could never do without: [browbeating young female subordinates out of envious pique]

Breathing, Eating, Drinking, A hot shower, A sense of humor, a good night’s sleep, warm clothes. [you are boring]

I spend a lot of time thinking about: [my headlong date with the wall]

Strategies for my clients. [sexxxy!] My move to XX–and the fact that I will miss XX for its weather. After 20 years here, I’ve had it with the shallowness, the BS. [translation: she’s had it with powerful men completely passing her by for younger babes.]

On a typical Friday night I am: [stroking my pussy]

I could be working/traveling or at home relaxing. It just depends on what I’ve got going on that week. [still boring]

The most private thing I’m willing to admit: [catnip. my cat’s barbed tongue. you make the connection.]

I like cats, and they like me–however, I’m extremely allergic–I think they know this. [hilar! i swear i didn’t read this line before i wrote the above editorial comment.]

I’m looking for: [a less offensive quasimodo from the shrinking pool of quasimodos currently available to a woman of my years]

  • Guys who like girls
  • Ages 38–54
  • Near me
  • Who are single
  • For new friends, long-term dating, activity partners

You should message me if: [your date with the 28-year-old bartender fell through]

You understand that I don’t have time to waste in ‘chats, emails, or texts.’ That you can get to the point. Please understand that I am not desperate, I don’t have time to play games, if you’d like to meet, we will have a phone call, determine if there’s chemistry and conversation enough to meet and then we’ll do just that, if we work out great, if not, that’s great too. [i thought you said you weren’t looking for anyone online?] I will give you the courtesy of responding to every inquiry, I would hope that you would do the same, even if its to say I’m not interested. I have my big girl panties on, I can take being told you’re not interested–though if you don’t–thank you anyway for not wasting my time. [sadly, still boring. even sadder, still grating.]

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Phew! What a wasteland of parched human psyche. And people wonder why American men head to foreign shores to find charming, feminine women without a two-ton buttplug shoved up their asses.

You know, I was going to write some final message directed at this woman’s overactive sense of entitlement, her breathless inventory of demands, her sheer, willful delusions about her cratering sexual market value, her irritating grrlpower femcunt pose, her mouth-puckering bitterness, her ‘work first, men second’ careercunt attitude, her laughably unrealistic standards, her thermonuclear bitchery, her total abandonment of youthful romanticism and whimsy, her complete disregard for doing what it takes to entice men or to even recognize that men have desires which women, particularly aging women, must abide if they want to find love…

but then I decided this is one of those wonderful rare cases where the mask slips so entirely that you can just let the shrike speak for herself. She serves a better use as someone to be made an example of, for younger women to learn valuable life lessons.

And she’s relatively thin (from what we can glean from her pics), which makes her unpleasant attitude all the more self-destructive. Most American women have ballooned into monstrosities by their 40s, so a woman who manages to stay the same weight at 46 that she was at 26 has a leg up on her same-age competition. Perhaps this explains her entitlement. Still, thin older women would do well to keep in mind that thinness is no substitute for slender youth, and adjust their expectations accordingly. (It’s not for nothing I call 21st century America ‘Expectation Nation’.)

However, I am a magnanimous man of great, overflowing humanity, so I will give this woman some advice which could turn her life around.

Learn to settle.

PS This is why I have hardly ever bothered with online dating. Good-looking women are not on there in sufficient numbers to offset the attention whoring fix they get from the masses of betas e-groveling at their feet, and the rest are women like the one above. Tight online game can yield fruit, but I find it more personally fulfilling to just meet the girls I find attractive outside in the cool, crisp air.

309 Responses to “The Sad, Bitter End”

  1. Boxcar says:

    I never thought I’d have to file a Chateau post under “tl:dr” but Jesus, I think I’m just going to bookmark this for a time when I have more alcohol in me.

    • Anon says:

      Someone needs to reply to her ad with “tl; dr” and give her the following advice about creating a better profile:

      Take a look at profiles of young, hot chicks. They usually have 8 photos of various bikini shots, cleavage shots, kissing other hot chicks shots, holding a drink, etc. Then follow with a 1 sentence profile about “I like watching movies. No drama or bad boys, please!!! xoxoxo :)

      But her profile is not really an ad. It’s more of a crazy rant that’s indicative of someone barely holding it together as they smack into the reality of their plummenting sexual market value.

    • Firepower says:

      Gots to agree.
      Being alpha is often, the elegant simplicity of not paying attention to most people.

  2. A.B. Dada says:

    I can’t believe you used the word harridan.

    Just yesterday, I printed about 50 vinyl stickers that just say “harridan” on them, so I can pass them out when I encounter exactly that in public.

    Shit looks good on an old spinster’s iPad back.

    • Mikey says:

      He uses it all the time. That and harpy.

    • Most women would need a dictionary to finally get that you dogged her by giving her a sticker describing her as a harridan.

    • “H-A-Double R-I D A N spells harridan…” Great post,i was glad I peeped it before you had to remove the link. She was a pleasant looking woman,looks a bit older than her given age of 46,a little masculine in one pic,but the kitchen pic was charming. Hey,WTF,I’d drop a load in ‘er. Y not?

    • Tertullian says:

      “Just yesterday, I printed about 50 vinyl stickers that just say “harridan” on them, so I can pass them out when I encounter exactly that in public.”

      My bullshit detector just went off….

      • A.B. Dada says:

        Ha, CH isn’t the only one with a big vocabulary. As for detectors, drop me your mailing address and you can stick a dozen free harridan stickers on the pile of bullshit, for all I care.

        Stickers promote my businesses. I print ridiculous ones every day. Part of my dominating personality, draws attention away from my good looks.

  3. Opus says:

    In England, a woman who had reached the age of thirty-eight was said to be a ‘Spinster of this Parish’ i.e. not marriage material. I think they were right.

    p.s. Thank God I no longer live in D.C.

  4. askjoe says:

    OMFG. Kudos to the host for reading that thing. I got about halfway through and I decided to give up, and to be rewarded with the knowledge that it didn’t end until after wearing out the scroll button on my mouse.

    any woman who uses the term “social construct” in a non-satirical manner is automatically disqualified as a date prospect. follow this rule and i guarantee many years of happiness to you.

    Win! This should be put on a coffee mug or t-shirt or something.

    At least sugartits is willing to meet over drinks instead of coffee.

  5. Whitehall says:

    “If you are over 60 trying to date a 40 something woman [a perfectly realistic goal for men of that age, since the sex ratio by then is skewed in men’s favor and women are well-known to find a lot more traits potentially attractive in men than their physiques] ”

    So true! I’m in just that age range and as I’ve said in other comments, there is a good assortment of attractive women with MUCH better attitudes than this “lady”, women with balance and realism, and yes, sexy bodies eager for the touch and stroke of a good man with strength and a strong mind.

    A guy does learn rather quickly that this lady’s attitude is toxic and one should run, not walk, away.

  6. TheCoolah says:

    Good Lord. I feel dumber just for having read all that.

  7. Days of Broken Arrows says:

    Thanks for running a suggestion of mine.

    This should serve as a warning for those who attempting to date 40-plus women who have never married (divorced women tend to be saner, I’ve found).

    Read this carefully and you’ll realize EVERYTHING you do is wrong. Who would sign up for this? A masochist?

    • Ripp says:

      “This should serve as a warning for those who attempting to date 40-plus women who have never married (divorced women tend to be saner, I’ve found)”

      Agreed.

      In fact *recently* divorced cougars still have some pleasent feminine qualities mixed with the urge to re-live time lost due to boring/dull marriage. In addition (as there is a post in CH about this) they take less game to close.

      Bonus: They pay for shit too.

    • Whitehall says:

      I too agree. Ex-husbands can be losers and the good women sometimes dump them hoping for a better man.

      If you’re the better man, and can contact them at the right time, you can find a gem of a woman. A good ad on Craigslist can bea big help.

      One does need to handle them gently at first if they are just back into dating. They can be timid and gun-shy although some know EXACTLY what they want.

      Never-married women in their 40s can still think they are 20 and have yet to come to grips with reality.

    • Fred Rotten says:

      “Read this carefully and you’ll realize EVERYTHING you do is wrong.”

      My favorite is her list of “Do’s & Dont’s” (which is, incidentally, composed entirely of “Dont’s”) regarding a potential suitor’s/sucker’s photographs. She has churlishly eliminated every and all photographic contexts imaginable to the human mind. I think the only option available would be a self-portrait oil painting.

      Even then, she’d probably screech, “We’re not impressed by oil paintings–lame.”

    • Rick Derris says:

      DoBA:

      Thank you for finding and submitting that. This was a great read and a good way to start the day!

  8. JCclimber says:

    Tight in-person game beats tight online game anytime, any day. From reading her profile, it is incredibly easy to see exactly the loser mangina types who have been emailing her for the last few years.

    • Ripp says:

      Agreed.

      Online game is a great starting point for guys new to game to develop a rotation and work on cold approach activity in parallel. However cold approach will always have a higher quality yield and faster avg. time to pussy from initial contact.

      I do like online game though. It helps sharpen TXT game and you can do it while taking a shit…on a plane w internet etc…

      also if you have a random bucket list of odd sexual criteria you can target certain markets:
      -anal with asian, 25 to 30yrs on 1st date, spend $0 [check]

  9. askjoe says:

    But she’s sooooooooooo successful, why wouldn’t a man want her? Would you fuck her? She’d fuck her.

  10. peckerwood says:

    Fuck. OKC is a shitty sight. Free to enter, so you can imagine what crapsters continually assault every decent girl on there. I’m amazed anyone gets any play, unless there’s some specific fetish fufillment being actualized. A hot ex was on match and she’d get an email a minute. There might be an argument for raising the $ on dating sights to keep out riff-raff.

    • Fluffy McGee says:

      I have to agree with you on this. My experience on OKC went something like this: text with a bunch of ugly chicks that are way under my league, finally find one hot chick who responds to my first message. Next day I go to reply but my message gets returned with: “Error – inbox full,” and her profile was listed the first day I messaged her.

      I’m experimenting on a site right now that’s paid. Had 4 dates so far and only one of the chicks even remotely resembled the photos/age she had posted on her profile. Despite this, even the ugliest chick I wasted 2 hours of my life with told me she gets spammed at least 20 times a fucking day. One of the chicks who lied to me about her age and told me she is 32 when she is actually 44 has now become a stalker as well… Jesus fing christ…

      In person game ftw…

      • peckerwood says:

        pisser. I think maybe the best thing to do is get rich enough so that you can join a match making service that caters to men, that is they approach hot chicks and set you up (even if you got tight day and/or night game, you don’t cover as much ground as a professional MM). I got approached by a DC matchmaking service that claims that men join free because their clients are mostly women. I can imagine that any match they got for we would be lovely older bitches like this OKC chick.

  11. driveallnight says:

    Laughing so hard I’ve freaked out my dog. Swear, sometimes this blog writes itself….

  12. Lara says:

    I can tell from her attitude, she hasn’t had sex with anyone worthwhile for a long time. I feel for her.

  13. hesaidhe says:

    Total wasteland (“seriously”).

    Thank you, CH. Another death-gripped fire-alarm has sounded. I cannot end up like this woman or my insane “independent” (spinster) aunt who refuses to acknowledge that menopause… is natural.

    I signed up for OkC a couple weeks ago and it is amazing the amount of Beta-winks / “Hey Beautiful! What’s up” messages in the inbox. But who cares?! I simply choose to… not respond (pretty easy concept – one would think).

    No REAL man would ever contact a woman who takes the time to write such a profile, which reads: I am beyond hateful of men and unwilling to admit my own faults or position in life. I doubt a real man would approach this woman at a bar (scotch in hand and cigar to lips, with steak juice caked to her chin).

    F that.

    • J.M. says:

      Well my friend why are you in online dating services then? Most of the guys that go under that route are “beta” and you won`t like them, that`s why I prefer real life approach, much better success rate and less competition to clog inboxes with lifeless messages like “You are so beautiful” and the rest of the rubbish. If you really are so desperate to use online services, you are “doomed” to accept the best “betas” of the yard, sorry honey…(well not really)

  14. Maya says:

    Hi,

    what is settling? (I’ve asked this ten times already, sorry)

    I’ve read your links but I don’t understand.

    You gave advice to this young girl asking you for help …

    “I’m not going to tell you to suck it up and date men who don’t turn you on.”

    But is this still settling then? I thought settling is sleeping with a boring beta – not with someone who is sexy enough to turn you on … I don’t get it.

    Sorry for asking the same questions over and over again but I really don’t understand …

    I think it’s more romantic to be alone for your whole life than settle for someone who you don’t love. I don’t want to be one of those fat and depressed women who complain about their boyfriends all the time and who can only have sex once a month. It’s way better to be alone. Also, one night stand with an alpha is probably much more romantic than spending years with a guy you don’t love!

    • Ben says:

      “I don’t want to be one of those fat and depressed women who complain about their boyfriends all the time and who can only have sex once a month. It’s way better to be alone.”

      You poor thing. Miseducated and now you’ve no fucking idea.

      Submit, obey, and be happy.

      (I would personally be more than happy to slap this very simple motto into you. For your own sake, you understand.)

    • Popfizzled says:

      Settling means finding someone slightly better than you for a LTR. There is no reason you cant love a 7 if you are a 6. What this is is greed plain and simple. Another 5 or 6 trying to snag an alpha for a LTR. Mediocre women have been tricked into thinking if they let a alpha fuck them that he might just settle for them. But the same thing that makes him alpha, (confidence and high test) will not allow him to settle for a woman so below him in the pecking order. An alpha is already putting himself into slavery by being in a LTR when he could continue to have a new woman each night. If hes going to settle its going to be for a 9 or 10.

      This woman is now bitter she has been pumped and dumped through the years by alphas and never managed to snag one. I dont blame her for being bitter, but its funny she has resorted to online dating after aging and alphas dont even find her worthy of a pump and dump anymore. She still thinks she deserves a man much better than her despite bringing less and less to the table each year. At her age especially its time to throw in the towel and take what she can get. She creates her own misery. Greed plain and simple.

    • Stuki says:

      For most of history in most of the world, people sort of figured out the whole “love the one you married, rather than marry the one you love” thingy. It isn’t particularly complicated, but I guess a century of publicly funded indoctrination has a way of making even molehills seem like Everest.

    • Tmason says:

      Settling = Picking someone good enough

    • Well,if you are white,please find a very intelligent guy and fuck him and get preganant and at least you can add a half-assed decent human to the Gen Pop!

    • Lara says:

      “I don’t want to be one of those fat and depressed women who complain about their boyfriends all the time and who can only have sex once a month.”

      You are already depressed.

    • Spiralina says:

      “Hi, what is settling? (I’ve asked this ten times already, sorry) I’ve read your links but I don’t understand.”

      Lol guys, obvious troll is obvious. But he/she/it (sheit?) will keep coming back as long as the attention keeps coming.

      • Maya says:

        Calm down. I just asked because I really don’t understand and I seriously don’t know what is the best strategy in life: trying to find love or settling.

        • Spiralina says:

          I just assume when someone comes in asking the same question over and over ad nauseum, they’re trolling. But I’ll reply as though you’re serious:

          The two strategies are not necessarily mutually exciusive. It is possible to settle and still find love. Too many women have ridiculous lists of what they want in a man (must be alpha, dominant, 6’3″, a billionaire, charming, witty, blah blah blah) that actually block them from settling OR finding love. The key is to look in the mirror and realize you’re not a supermodel, and finding and maximizing the good traits you do have. At the same time, you are looking for a man who may not be perfect himself, but who also has good traits you can respect and admire.

          I’m not trying to be a jerk; if you’re not a troll I feel bad for you because you seem very confused. I don’t think you’re destined to be alone unless you want to be. I’m around your age and very happily married, and plan to be so for life. It’s not about abandoning your hypergamous nature completely (if that’s even possible), but realizing that it can be an obstacle to happiness, and learning how to control it and put it in its place. Kind of like caging a dangerous animal. It’s something that society used to do for us, but now we need to do it for ourselves – which is really hard. I can see why some women can’t do it.

          • Geishakate says:

            “It’s not about abandoning your hypergamous nature completely (if that’s even possible), but realizing that it can be an obstacle to happiness, and learning how to control it and put it in its place. Kind of like caging a dangerous animal. It’s something that society used to do for us, but now we need to do it for ourselves – which is really hard. I can see why some women can’t do it.”

            Nail meet head.

      • GeishaKate says:

        Actually, “she” represents something significant and, if I understand correctly, its kind of ingenious.

  15. Leif says:

    Imagine the opposite scenario….a nice guy beta writing his life story and telling the legions of women who will message him his 1000 demands.

    Oh wait that’s right. Average guys NEVER get messages from girls on dating sites, it’s always 100 dudes messaging 1 girl.

    This woman brings nothing to the table except her deteriorating vagina, and yet she still expects (correctly) dozens if not hundreds of messages from guys. Meanwhile there are no doubt very decent guys on dating sites who never get messaged.

    Ultimately betas are the biggest losers in society.

    • Ben says:

      And the problem is, betas are society. If the west was comprised only of slick alphas, it would look like shitholestan, or fuckingholabad.

      • corvinus says:

        Or the 1800s USA.

        • Stuki says:

          In the 1800s in America, betas had the option to simply pack up and move west, where the only alphas around (Indians of various stripes) were fair game for killing. Which they did, and changed the course of history,. Of course, once fields were plowed, rivers dredged and dams and roads built, opportunistic alphas came crawling, and immediately started doing the only thing most of them can do, which is try inserting themselves at the top of social hierarchies and live parasitically off of others.

          And, unfortunately, the poor betas realized way too late how important the ability to casually blow away anyone attempting to insert himself as your “superior”, really is for the maintenance of civilized societies. Absent that ability, spoils go to those spending time on redistributing the fruits of others’ labor, instead of to those who produce the fruit in the first place, ensuring less and less effort is expended on actually producing anything useful. Until a better society, not so afflicted, simply rolls in and takes over.

    • Anon says:

      Some “betas” learn to fuck whores earlier than others.

      • Mick says:

        When I was 6 or 7 I had this cute blonde 14 year old babysitter that would neck with me and let me feel her tits. I’m sure I could have fucked her but I was just thrilled to play with her tits and look at her vag. I remember she had this pink one piece zip up pajama that she would unzip and lie on the couch and tell me to do whatever I wanted. I told my parents that she let me smoke and kiss her.she got fired….fuck

  16. Lara says:

    She is really angry at men. I’m surprised she still wants to be with one.

    • JD says:

      She just wants the validation that comes from being with one.

    • Stuki says:

      I don’t think it’s so much angry at men, as angry at the men who message her on her dating site. Which, judging by the “quality” of this catch, probably aren’t all that. Dating sites do manage to distill the dregs of the earth, and as someone else has noted, women gets 100s of messages from guys almost regardless. The only difference is the kind of guys the messages come from, which will inevitably be somewhat different for this one than for Candace Swanepoel.

    • driveallnight says:

      This broad’s just angry in general. And why not? She’s a “successful,” “professional” woman with “life experience” who knows what she deserves in a relationship. Why doesn’t some high-value man her age snap her up?? Heh.

      Three more weeks and I’m back in SE Asia, thank god. Smoking hot 24yo’s….with maybe 10% of this chick’s entitlement and self-absorption.

      • P Ray says:

        “Three more weeks and I’m back in SE Asia, thank god. Smoking hot 24yo’s….with maybe 10% of this chick’s entitlement and self-absorption.”

        Until they have a legal right to your assets.
        Don’t tempt fate too many times.

  17. Anonymous says:

    I noticed the word “we” appeared in that diatribe at least 500 times, like it was a message broadcasting from the Borg as they approach earth. “We are the Borg. We don’t like random texts, we hate hawaiian shirts, we have come to assimilate your physical assets into the girlpower collective so Bernanke can convert them into fiat dollarz for which we receive a commission from the Fed but you have to pay it until we find new assets to infiltrate.” lozlozlzolzozlozlz

  18. n/a says:

    If anyone thinks the existence of such an enemy as this can be dealt with in any way short of the extreme prejudice of total war and wholesale death, well, they are wrong.

    That pig’s face is what is staring you down and making sure you are put in prison for “stalking” (see revised VAWA Act) when you’ve made one too many beta-supplications/calls/texts to the girlfriend that dumped you.

    That whore’s mug is the one you see in black robes, putting you in prison, because you can no longer endure the financial rape of your divorce.

    This cunt’s skull is what you get, staring out at you with its cold, dead eyes, because you allowed it to happen.

    Wake up, men.

    • John Norman Howard says:

      This is the first time I’ve wanted to declare a non-humorous post as “thread winnah!”

    • Antifeminist One says:

      Perfect argument for active antifeminism rather than passive pro masculism.

  19. James says:

    For the love of god, Heartiste, please post pictures of this crone.

  20. Opus says:

    I’ve had a look at her OK Cupid photos and read her Profile, and so as it is beauty pageant time I’d say she is a 4, that is to say marginally less attractive than average, though she is not fat, so that is in her favour, but given her age, that is to say Menopausal, what man could possibly be interested beyond pump and dump. She says she does not smoke and only drinks socially, yet her main and best photo shows her holding a cigar in one hand and with a drink in the other, so she appears to be giving off mixed messages.

    She has a Masters Degree and an annual income between $100,000 and $ 150,000 so that is a lot of money but it can’t be a very difficult job as she is not bright enough to realise that if she wants a husband and family she has missed the boat by about twenty years.

    She says above that she is not interested in younger men, but I don’t believe a word of that and therefore my advice to her gratis is this: Go off to Jamaica or Egypt and it will not be long before you meet a man called Franco, or Muhammed or Marco, who will be very keen on you and with your fistful of dollars you will soon find that he is indeed the kind of man who will keep you up all night or indeed any other time of your choosing. You are white and female and gagging for it after all. You claim to speak no less than five languages but those green-backs are all you will need if your Arabic or Jamaican is just not there. If you don’t care for my advice then for heavens sake either quit OK or edit, seriously edit your profile to about less than one tenth of its current length and cut out the man-hating otherwise you might just put off some guy, who is exactly the man you have been waiting for for the last thirty years as you watched your friends marry and settle down as you pursued your success in a cubicle in Encorpera. A cubicle I suspect you may soon be asked to leave,to make way for younger hotter totty.

    OK says she is on line now, perhaps one of the Chateau’s brave readers can give her a call.

    • Cover me, boys… I’m going in!

      • You’re going in…but are you going down?

      • Fred Rotten says:

        Let us know what you find, general.

        I salute your bravery, sir (*sniff*, wipes tear from eye).

        • John Norman Howard says:

          I admit that I put on the screeching Wile-E-Coyote brakes when I saw the pic of her smoking a cigar.

          Smoking is a deal-breaker for me… and please… cigars for a woman?

          The only cigar a woman should be smoking is my White Owl.

      • Tertullian says:

        John Norman Howard: I fucking LOVE your posts.

        Just had to let you know.

      • John Norman Howard says:

        Okay, I admit I put on the screeching Wile-E-Coyote brakes when I saw the cigar picture… smokers are out, period… and women cigar smokers are streng verboten.

        There’s only one cigar a woman should be smoking… my White Owl.

    • Fluffy McGee says:

      A 4 in her internet photos = a 2 irl, always subtract at least 2 points from the net photos.

    • Fred Rotten says:

      She smokes cigars?

      GAY!!!!!!

      That right there is penis envy at it’s finest. It’s such a repulsive and blatent way of saying, “I *really* want to be a man!” And talk about a textbook “I’m an independent and successful careerwoman who can play hard ball with the boys” signal… It’s about as subtle as my ass.

      Indeed, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. But in this case it’s merely an anemic prop which blurts out, “I’m totally gay.”

      • John Norman Howard says:

        Agreed three-fold… it’s even a bigger turn-off than a tattoo, which is about the biggest turn-off there could be, in my book.

      • That Guy says:

        @Fred, @ John,

        I checked her OKC profile last night and she answered this question:

        Q: Have you ever had sex with an opposite-sexed partner?

        Her A: Yes, but didn’t like it

        • V says:

          @That Guy,

          “Nobody does us like us [and a tri-pronged purple saguaro]–if you don’t understand this statement…”

          That’s exactly what she means here. Yes, we all understand that statement. You don’t even have to ask if she’s ever had it with a same-sex partner. If she hates men so much, why is she even looking for one? I give her 5 yrs tops before full-blown butch.

        • John Norman Howard says:

          Cue that trumpet sound: wah-wah-wah-waaaaaahhhhh.

  21. Ripp says:

    Wow.

    LOL.

    Acid for blood cuntery- I bet this bitch could kill the mother alien that fought Ripley with her pink flower business slut pen.

  22. FFY says:

    Days of Broken Arrows:

    + 1 million internet dollarz

  23. This just in: I buzzed a bit more around OKCupid and I’m discovering a new trend. There are women on there who designate themselves as “seeing someone” yet are asking for guy friends who want to “cook for me.” Advertising for the classic “orbiting Betas,” in other words.

    Can someone tell me if this type of attitude is endemic to American women and if so, what’s the alternative. Hate to admit my folks were right about me sticking with the foreign women I met in college, but did I listen? Nooooo.

    • Nicole says:

      I know an Asian woman whose European ex boyfriend is flaking on her because of people (mostly women) shaming him about it. I tell her to take it easy but hang in there in order to save him from himself.

    • AlphaBeta says:

      Those are some excellent examples of passing shit tests. In those examples he never takes her seriously, which is how it’s done. Really, 99% of the time girls don’t want to be taken seriously. Girls just wanna have fun! How can being taken seriously be fun?

    • corvinus says:

      Of course. That’s probably why he’s nailing Natalie Portman.

    • Georgie Porgie says:

      I feel compelled to point out that a) Devendra Banhart is no longer Portman’s boyfriend. She’s currently married (?) to Benjamin Millepied, ballet dancer; and b) Banhart didn’t really write that. It’s very obviously a humor piece. This Recording has posted similar articles over the years in celebrity character.

  24. Geishakate says:

    Oh dear. I made it through a third of it. There are just so many things wrong. Short and sweet is much better. My last experiment in profile writing was somewhat successful and looked like this:

    Lion Tamers Apply Within

    I’m not gonna lie. I’ve been called an urban legend. I can bring the dying to life. But my spelling is really bad.

    I don’t care about public opinion. I’m so far ahead most people are behind. But if you have something to say, I’d be interested in hearing it.

    This probably won’t work out. I make grown men cry. But if you’ve made it this far…don’t say you weren’t warned :)

    [heartiste: drop the “so far ahead” line. men don’t want to hear women gloat or brag. be sincere, be flirty, be humble.]

    • Geishakate says:

      You’re right. I’ve had more success with other profiles. This was an experiment. I was looking to see who would call me out ;)

      • GeishaKate says:

        Here’s my best one to date (pun intended):

        Woman Seeking Man Who Will Dance in a Grocery Store

        Do you ever turn the volume of your car radio up as high as it will go when your favorite song comes on, enjoy driving in traffic with the windows rolled down, or get a natural high from the beauty of the outdoors? That’s me. My house is filled with books, I love to write, and I’m a sun-worshipper known for wearing purple bikinis.

        I’m looking for a man who is confident and has an understanding of moderation: someone who can balance the many areas of his life, is a good communicator, and who- just maybe- would dance in a grocery store:)

        • John Norman Howard says:

          House filled with books… meh.

          Love to write… meh.

          Purple bikinis… okay… now let’s see them tits.

          • Geishakate says:

            If I’m not mistaken, you have a wife and are engaged to another poster. Bronze doesn’t interest me, so move it along, thanks.

          • John Norman Howard says:

            Interested enough to keep the tabs, though… you purple-bikinied tease.

          • GeishaKate says:

            Sorry. Don’t take it personally. I just have attitude about married men. Don’t even get me started on “separated” men!

            And maybe one day I will share a picture with you as I’m building a new site, but I will be fully clothed :)

          • John Norman Howard says:

            .And maybe one day I will share a picture with you…but I will be fully clothed.

            And with that, Debbie Downer, I leave you with either of the standard chateau responses:

            a) Gay.

            b) 8========D

        • That Guy says:

          @GeishaKate,

          Thumbs-down for your use of the word, “Moderation”

          • Geishakate says:

            Really? Why is that, if you don’t mind saying.

          • That Guy says:

            @Geisha,

            To me “Moderation” has connotations of prudishness… or at least lack of spontaneity… it’s too tame

          • Geishakate says:

            Okay, I see your point. I was trying to weed out obsessives. Because of my experiences, its actually really important to me that a man be in control of himself and his interests. Maybe there’s a better way I can put that.

          • That Guy says:

            @Geisha,

            So how about:
            “I’m looking for a man who is confident and in control of himself and his surroundings”

            I’m guessing that you want to signal that you’re looking for an Alpha male, right?

          • Geishakate says:

            That sounds good. Thanks! I’ll use that if I venture back into the fray. I’m trying to attract someone I can admire.

  25. mack says:

    way tl: dr

  26. Anonymous says:

    I’m older than she is but dating more than one who are 25-28 years younger than she is. She needs someone over 60.

    At least she wasn’t a journalist trying to shame men and set a false frame or propose new anti-male legislation.

  27. blert says:

    She is to erections what Stalingrad was to armies.

    ——

    Her reality is so distorted — drugs would improve her personality.

    ——

    I rather suspect that she’s an only child.

    In which case her raging narcissism is of long standing.

    It’s said that politics is stage-acting for ugly people. And so, she’s DC bound.

    —–

    I’d recommend B&D as a cathartic — Miss. ‘ell learning the ways of her master.

    Such shock therapy might balance her id.

    Any other sexual relationship can only have the life span of a trick. For what she wants to bring to the bedroom is best parked in the next county.

    She’s a Typhoid Mary of on-line dating: one can only dread for those others infected by her bile.

    Sheesh.

  28. Ben says:

    Ugh, her grammar is so bad. Probably a combination of a poor education, stupidity and the fact that this is a white hot, vagina bleeding, screed.
    You’re a hag. And you will die alone and miserable (a state you’ve been familiar with all your life.)

    Women, this is the wrong path to take. Dismiss feminism. Mock your cat lady, cob webbed vagina, lectureresses.

  29. Nine Furies says:

    What an androgynous monstrosity.

    Thankfully those genes wont pass on.

  30. Warrioress of Ultramar says:

    ‘Try to settle.’
    This is what you’re repeating all the time. But, seriously speaking, shouldn’t lousy lesser beta or omega guys learn the same?

    [heartiste: men are less discriminating than women as a sex so settling is not as much of an obstacle for men as it is for women.]

    (Though the best thing most of them can do is to hit the wall – no kidding, I communicate with such specimen enough to know best round here.) You’re constantly bitching around on the female sense of entitlement, but never comment on the same feeling in males – even though it is even more common. I’ve seen lots of ugly things in my life, but very few of them are as repulsive as a host of scary stupid nerds ranting and raving after a chick (either mediocre or perfect – it doesn’t matter to hypergamy-overridden dudes) accidentally reveals to them who they actually are. Think about that, mate.

    [for women’s sexual market value, looks are primary. therefore, the approach of the wall brings much greater omen for them than it does for men. women who refuse to settle aren’t bereft of any male attention; they get attention, just not their ideal attention. in contrast, omega males get no attention from women except the very dregs of womanhood, if that. so it isn’t a question of omega males refusing to settle. omega males *can’t* settle for anything because so few women will have them.]

    • Warrioress of Ultramar says:

      “men are less discriminating than women as a sex”

      Bullshit. At least judging from my own experience. If we take discrimination solely (but still in general, without considering any particular aspect of the subject), we (I mean men and women in general) are worth each other.

      “settling is not as much of an obstacle for men”

      LMFAO once again. If you wish, I may submit some of the quotations from my male interlocutors on this topic. Gathering and translating them into English will be exhausting and time-consuming, though, which is not to say I’m unwilling to support my opinion with clear evidence – on the contrary, I’d love to discuss it all with you. However, it has just occured to me that the thing is culturally influenced to some extent – for instance, my country, Ukraine has one of the lowest sex ratios in the world (as well as Russia, where most of the guys I speak of come from) and, what is more, may vary in different regions, so that there are places where even the lousiest betas feel like kings. Moreover, things have been like this for decades round here, and this has almost become part and parcel of our culture. That’s why I referred to this one as to a ‘cultural influence’ – guys are now born and brought up with a sense of entitlement, which is, naturally, seldom adequate. However, I’m still not sure whether sex ratio is to blame here most (if it is to blame at all), so I guess this one could provide some interesting material for your new posts that I’ll read avidly.

      “for women’s sexual market value, looks are primary.”

      I cannot but agree – even though, according to most males I met in my life, they aren’t everything. I’m already fed up with these ‘saw a hot chick – came up to her and started a conversation – quickly ran the other direction 3 minutes later, so dumb she turned out to be’ stories, coming mostly from classical or even lesser betas. Moreover, as the uni I study at is lousy with those nerdy-looking techies with a certain potential, I know good enough to say – if there are two equally hot or equally mediocre chicks on offer (btw, could you please tell me where I can get that 1-to-10 scale you all are using?), at least 9 guys (for most guys in this country are like this, and technical schools, colleges or departments in unis are, by the way, still male-dominated here, which is a topic of numerous jokes) out of 10 will choose a rock music lover who can name 10 classical sci-fi novels on the spot rather than just a chick, so to say =)

      “the approach of the wall”

      Huh, the thing is I must have misunderstood the phrase ‘hit the wall’. It is often used in Russian Internet slang to show one’s contempt for the interlocutor. Translator’s false friends all over the place, hahaha.

      “omega males get no attention from women except the very dregs of womanhood”

      I cannot but repeat this is not what I’m constantly forced to observe – hot, well-mannered, jovial chicks dating mediocre guys and average girls having nothing but shitty omegas at their disposal. For instance, some of my most beautiful female coursemates are currently dating guys I won’t bother even spitting at (providing the photos as evidence would be over-the-top, of course, although I’d love to do so). To sum up, omega males have a lot to settle and even to dwell on. Take off these black glasses of yours.

      PS: I could also tell you a horror story of the alpha way, male and female meanness, gratitude, loyalty and sluttery, if you wish. Featuring a Haymitch-Abernathy-turns-ageing-rockstar fortysomething and a bunch of young hotties and not-really-hotties.

      • Warrioress of Ultramar says:

        Upd. “and, what is more, may vary” should be “and, what is more, IT (the sex ratio) may wary”. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, apparently.

      • itsme says:

        the difference in demographics probably explains it. you’d be singing a different tune if most of the women in your country were fat and ugly, most of your men were beta, and feminism ran rampant for the past half century.

    • Ed the Department Head says:

      Omega Men don’t have to settle. A man primarily wants sex not companionship and “love”, unlike a woman. An Omega can, if he makes a moderate amount of money, move to Nevada and bang whores. Think about that, mate.

      • Warrioress of Ultramar says:

        ‘if he makes a moderate amount of money’

        And suppose he doesn’t?

        ‘A man primarily wants sex not companionship and “love”, unlike a woman.’

        Nor does a woman – an average woman, of course. Women mostly want something like love.

  31. Fuckaire says:

    I’m in her age group and I have an LTR with a woman 10 years younger than I. While dating online, I wouldn’t even look at women in my age group.

    This one is over the top and beyond help. Is there an online service where I can order her some cats?

  32. Laconophile says:

    Nuke it from orbit, indeed.

  33. Samuel says:

    It’s not settling if you can’t do any better.

  34. John Norman Howard says:

    Geez, heartiste… what did Quasimodo ever do to you?

  35. John Norman Howard says:

    [the enrichment will continue until morale improves.]

    Gold, baby…. gold!

  36. John Norman Howard says:

    If it weren’t for heartiste’s comments, I would have stopped reading after “parting advice”.

    All this broad needs now is wings… so she can hover above a blind man’s food and take a dump.

  37. IHTG says:

    Oh man. How long do you think that profile is going to stay online?

  38. mac says:

    I would say there are about five years and quite a few pounds between the first and last photos. She had quite nice legs. Shame.

  39. Blessent says:

    “we be on here”?

    Really?

  40. corvinus says:

    OK says she is on line now, perhaps one of the Chateau’s brave readers can give her a call.

    Whatever for?? Forget online dating. Useless as tits on a boar hog. Real men meet women in meatspace.

  41. evilalpha says:

    Translation “She likes it in the ass”

  42. Nihilist says:

    Some real talk from one of the Chateau guardian angels, Schopenhauer:

    “Woman in the Occident, that is to say the ‘lady’, finds herself in a false position: for woman is by no means fitted to be the object of our veneration, to hold her head higher than the man or to enjoy equal rights with him. The consequences of this false position are sufficiently obvious. It would thus be a very desirable thing if this number two of the human race were again put in her natural place in Europe too, and a limit set to the unnaturalness called a lady at which all Asia laughs and which Greece and Rome would laugh at too if they could see it: the consequences for the social, civil and political life of Europe would be incalculably beneficial. The European lady is a creature which ought not to exist at all: what there ought to be is housewives and girls who hope to become housewives and who are therefore educated, not in arrogant haughtiness, but in domesticity and submissiveness. It is precisely because there are ‘ladies’ that European women of a lower status, which is to say the great majority of the sex, are much more unhappy than they are in the Orient.”

  43. jadoescher says:

    She actually looks decent in the top photo, but I would only find her truly attractive if I met and fell in love with her when she was 20 years younger. But overall, blech.

  44. YB says:

    Fuck, reading that has (“seriously”) twisted my mind.

    Excuse me while I go scrub my brain with barbed wire and sulphuric acid.

  45. Andrew S. says:

    [busy busy busy! lookatme be busy! i’m so busy… oh so busy… i’m so busy and busy and siiiingle! and i pity… any girl who isn’t a careerist count.]

    Hilarious.

  46. brian says:

    Voted “Most likely to be eaten by her cats” in high school.

  47. Old Glory says:

    God. That was absurd. My message to her would be that she spends too much time at home on the computer and that she needs to get out to live some.

    I couldn’t even finish it, honestly. Somebody print that out and see just how many pages it is. I’m guessing a 10 page diatribe.

    Next!

  48. sir vicks says:

    i like the part where she tries to convince the reader that there’s anything at all attractive about her personality or predicament

  49. That Guy says:

    If you actually want to date a woman of a certain age [euphemism for older] who takes care of herself [euphemism for “managed to avoid getting grossly obese, but not the hardbody I once was”], then you need to take care of yourself too. Seriously [just in case you weren’t taking her seriously enough] –none of us want to date anyone who is overweight and out of shape

    THIS IS SO NOT TRUE.

    I’ve dated many girls from online dating sites, and a number of years back when I had slacked off at the gym and put on an extra 30 Lbs – mostly on the midriff – do you think that mattered – not at all.

    To give an example, I contacted a hot looking girl, Ivy educated, who was 15 years my junior and suggested we go for a quick coffee as a first date. I always do this, so as to check the girls out physically, and to filter out obvious gold diggers or bitches. She looked cute, slim, toned, nice boobs, yoga butt, about 5′ 3″ (8 overall). I excused myself after 10 or 15 minutes, saying I had to go. 5 or so days later I suggested we grab a drink, at a bar a few blocks from her place.
    We sat on bar stools sipping cocktails, facing each other and she seemed tentative. After a few minutes, looking me over in detail, especially my midriff, she said,
    “Didn’t you say that health was very important to you?”
    Me: “Yes, it is”
    Hottie: “But you don’t seem to be that fit?!”
    Me: “Looks can be deceiving!” (pointing to midriff) “beneath this veneer of blubber, is a hard 6-pack” (smiling)
    Hottie: “No way…”
    Me: “Oh yeah…” (standing up) “take a shot at it and you’ll see for yourself”
    Hottie: “OK…” (she lines up)
    Me: (grabbing her wrist hard) “Wait, I’m not going to be responsible for any broken nails am I?”
    Hottie: (laughs) “Course not” (punches lightly)
    Me: (laughing) “Never felt it, is that all you got!”
    Hottie: (flurry of rabbit punches)
    Me: (grab her tightly to me in a bear hug) “Slow down Rocky, you’re going to exhaust yourself” (grinning)
    Me: “Hey, let’s get outta here… let’s go for a walk” (making for the door)
    Hottie: (follows me)
    Me: (head towards her street)
    Hottie: (Outside) “But, I’m still not convinced you’re fit, and that’s important to me. I jog every morning and do yoga 2 times a week, so fitness is very important in a potential partner”
    Me: (Now I realize that I need to up my dominance/asshole attitude considerably) “Well I’m fitter than you are!!!”
    Hottie: “NO WAY YOU ARE!”
    Me: “OK, I’ll race you to the end of the block!”
    Hottie: “You’re on!”

    We race down the crowded block, her leading initially, then I start yelling at people to, “GET OUTTA MY WAY!”, “BEAT IT!”, “WATCH YOUR BACK!”, and cleared a path for myself. Meanwhile everyone who jumps to avoid me, blocks her path. I end up beating her by 10′ or so. We’re both sweating and she’s absolutely furious.

    Hottie: “That’s so not fair! You intimidated everyone and I should have won! Plus you’re a guy and much taller than me”
    Me: (chortling loudly) “NO, I won fair and square! But let that be a lesson to you , AS LONG AS WE ARE TOGETHER, you will NEVER, EVER beat me at ANYTHING!” (we had known each other maybe 20-30 minutes total at this time?!)
    Me: “But, can’t talk now… I need to do my victory lap!” (then with hands raised above my head I jogged around the intersection, hootin’ and hollerin’, “Who’s the man!”)

    At this point a few people had stopped to watch the commotion. As I rounded the last corner, 2 hot, early 20′s girls were passing by, so I take the opportunity to say, “You saw that right, you saw me win right!”. They started giggling and before they could answer, I shouted, “High fives for a true champion”. They both gave me hearty high-5′s, now laughing out loud and looking over at my date.

    She was by now blushing, her anger subsided, her lubrication cranking full blast, and said:
    Hottie: “OK, point made – you won…” (holding out her hand) “I was wondering if you’d like to stop by my place for a while?”

    As I hold her hand she gazes intently into my eyes, pupils dilated, for a long moment. Not 20 minutes later, I’m instructing her in what the order, “Present” means – as she waits on all fours, on her bed, for me to take her.

    • corvinus says:

      Betas, read this post. This is how a date is supposed to go.

    • Lewis F says:

      This post, in my bookmarks

    • Old Glory says:

      Saving this for reference later.

      Awesome.

    • Bless you @ThatGuy

    • Nathan says:

      I find it pretty hard to believe that you can remember a date that occurred years ago in this much detail.

      • That Guy says:

        @Nathan,

        Well I do have a sort of photographic memory, and can remember exact details of all the best dates I’ve been on. Though the lesser girls/dates, sort of blur together, and some girls I can remember little or nothing about the sex we had at all.

      • n/a says:

        Nate = Mangina Hate.

        Get the fuck off this site, faggot.

        • shiva1008 says:

          Sounds like someone needs a time out

        • me says:

          it isn’t difficult to put together an elaborate story like that, using the information available on this site so you fuck off, gullible faggot.

          [heartiste: there’s never been a story remotely like his on this blog. stop trolling. it’s unseemly.]

          • That Guy says:

            @Me

            Here we go again… haters gotta hate…

            If you look at the archives over the last year or two, you’ll see I’ve posted 5 or 6 “memorable” stories like this one. I do it as a public service, now some people can learn something or other from them, many people can’t.

            I have a few more stories of this type, I could share, including one of female hypergamy and perfidity, that would make your toes curl…

      • EvilAlpha says:

        That’s where the term “memorable” comes from.

      • Harland says:

        Heh, heh, heh. We always have a vivid memory of our most enjoyable conquests. You mean you don’t?

        For everything else, there’s pictures. God bless the digicam.

    • carolyn says:

      your story made me laugh. what happened next? did you 2 date a long time?

  50. Trimegistus says:

    Jesus H. Fucking God, she goes on longer than GBFM.

    • John Norman Howard says:

      Since I already gave out a ‘thread winnah’, I’ll give you the Honorable Mention.

  51. Doc says:

    This woman is why I never take women older than 35 to my bed – dem b*tches be crazy…

    As to being used for my money, that’s fine – I’m using that little 18 year old hottie for her body… Of course the key is to use your money as bait, but never to let them get any of it, so they keep coming back for more. :)

    And I couldn’t care less that at some point I may decide to have kids, and will be too old to pick them up. As long as I’m young enough to plant one inside of her tight little body, that’s all I care about… And thanks to DNA tests, trust funds, and lawyers you can guarantee that if she wants to get her grubby hands on my money, the kids will be mine… The nice thing about a trust, is you can administer it, but the money isn’t yours, so it can’t be given away by some man-hating judge…

    • Grace says:

      If you want kids as a man, you should have them by 45. After that, rates of birth defects (in particular, autism and schizophrenia) go way up.

      Men have a much longer reproductive period than women, but it’s not unlimited.

      [heartiste: actually, men can have kids right up until the day they die. their sperm quality goes down gradually with age, that’s true (although it can be slowed significantly with T therapy and/or weightlifting), but unlike women who experience a total and complete shutdown of their reproductive potential at menopause, men’s reproductive potential stays with them their whole lives.]

      • That Guy says:

        @Grace,

        That’s just feminist-speak.

        My father’s father was a super-Alpha, lived a very dangerous and adventurous life, decided to settle down at 55 yo, with a 26 yo beauty, had 7 kids, last born at 70 yo. All very successful, including 3 PhD’s.

        I’m 49 yo, and have 3 young children – youngest 1 yo – the eldest has tested as academically Gifted, and the other 2 are too young. All my kids are very advanced for their ages, the first 2 walked at 8 months old – like myself – and the last at 9.5 months old. So I’m expecting great things from them.

        My sperm count at 38 yo was 550 million, and by 49 was 380 million – still higher than the average 20-25 yo Finn. But, If your sperm count is only 5 million or above you can father children easily.

        • Grace says:

          ThatGuy, if you are as smart as you seem to think you are, then you should know that the plural of anecdote is not data. Lots of older women have normal children too, up into their mid-forties, but this doesn’t change the fact that postponing having children is a bad idea.

          Feminism has nothing to do with this; it is biology.

      • GeishaKate says:

        Yes, there are men who end up at the bitter end too :( I met a couple who were DTM (down to marry)- they were in their mid to late forties.

      • EvilAlpha says:

        I betcha a 35 yo mangina mated to a 35 yo feminist has a higher change of birth defects than a 45 yo old alpha and his 25 yo old hottie.

      • Grace says:

        Heartiste, you are of course right that the reproductive potential of men never completely ends; the last sentence was phrased badly.

        But just because you can have children doesn’t mean it’s a good idea (after all, women in their 50s and beyond can have children too thanks to modern medicine). Men who think it’s a good idea to put off having children until early old age are being stupid.

        [heartiste: a few points. first, without scientific intervention, women clearly have a much shorter fertility window than men, and our psychosexual urges are formed by this millenia-old natural reality, not by the recent bioengineering intrusion. But even with hi tech fertility assistance, there are vanishingly few 50+ year old women getting pregnant, and not very many more 40+ year old women getting pregnant. the failure rates of fertility clinics are notoriously high. it’s a myth that the world is awash with 40+ women getting knocked up regularly with the help of clinics. their numbers may be rising, but it’s still nothing in comparison to the number of late teens and 20s women who can get pregnant in a stiff spring breeze. most men, otoh, can pretty much have kids without such clinical intervention up until the day they drop dead.
        second, thanks to the wonder drug testosterone, men generally have more energy than women as they age. the male reluctance to child rear isn’t so much a question of energy as it is of inclination. most older men simply aren’t interested in kids when they could be doing more fun things with their time.
        third, it is true that male sperm quality declines with age, but a 1% chance of having an autistic kid with a young hottie still beats (evolutionarily speaking) a 0% chance of a post-menopausal woman having *any kid at all* with any man. from a fitness perspective, older men have much more reproductive potential than older women. and the science proves this to be the case, as it is now understood that throughout evolutionary history, older men having children with younger fertile women has lengthened the human lifespan by passing on those older men’s genes for longevity.]

    • Anonymous says:

      Actually, a Ben Franklin or two is like crack cocaine. They will keep coming back for more even as you lower the dose to taxi fare.

    • tyrone says:

      Good advice Doc, on the trusts. They are a good way to avoid being ass raped. Its best to set the trust up well before any divorce occurs or the trust can be penetrated. If necessary, you can have a good friend or relative administer the trust for you to help prevent it’s protection from being penetrated. I think they are more iron clad than a pre-nup and can be created after marriage and still provide protection if you have assets in your own name. If you have assets and are planning to divorce, set the trust up two or more years ahead of time.

      Sorry fellas; victory in divorce requires advanced planning. That’s a big reason women win so much. Its not just that they have the court’s favor, its also because most of them plan a divorce years ahead of time.

  52. DT says:

    tl;dr – How much did you drink to get through the whole damn thing?

    This woman doesn’t have time for texts and emails, but she has plenty of time to write an angry book of a dating profile.

    I got about half way through. Couldn’t stand it any more. I think if I had been stuck in a room with her while she read this profile, I would have killed her.

    BTW, I know you were being sarcastic, but seeing you call her lovemuffin made me throw up a little in my mouth.

  53. Nicole says:

    My eyes started to glaze over at “political”. You have more endurance than me to actually read through all that crap.

    This lady need and intervention or something.

  54. Innocent Bystander says:

    “Please understand that I am not desperate”

    Funny isn’t it how so often what is said is the opposite of the truth.

    • Holden Caulfield says:

      She’s trying to convince herself by convincing others. In other words, if YOU believe her bullshit, maybe she will too!

      • GeishaKate says:

        A profile, like any kind of writing, should show not tell. The same person could generate different reactions in the readers just by changing the wording. I know this because I’m in a small pool, I’ve been on different sites, and sometimes I use my picture and sometimes I don’t. So, the same people have messaged me not knowing they’ve already messaged me because I’ve rewritten my profile. Its pretty fascinating stuff. Its all about marketing and what kind of fish you are trying to catch. She is obviously fishing for marlin, but she is not using the right bait.

        • That Guy says:

          @Geisha said:
          “A profile, like any kind of writing, should show not tell”

          This is key, and can not be emphasized enough!

          My profile does not say something like, “Rugged Alpha male”, and a big list of adjectives – rather it’s fairly minimalist.

          However, I use a little creativity under questions like, “What is your favorite place?” or “Where would you rather be right now?”
          My typical answer is something like this: “In Xinjiang, hiking the dusty trail through the Taklamakan desert on my way to distant Loulan, in search of Cherchen Man…”

          I can’t tell you the number of girls who have been enthralled by this one phrase, and write to me with lines like: “I gotta hear more”. They fantasize that I am some sort of Indiana Jones… and I get under their skin (no pun intended). When I get a message like that, I just reply:
          “If you want to hear more, let’s meet for a quick coffee. I’m not into protracted emailing, texting and phone calls, and hope you aren’t either. I’m free towards the weekend, let me know, OK”

          That’s it – simplicity itself.

          Oh and BTW, for guys, never mention income – it’s irreverent! Give a general – but positive – description of your job, for instance, if its 9-5 say, “Consultant”, if its not-9-5 say, “Entrepreneur”. You don’t want to get disqualified straight off the bat by some girl who has fixed ideas on exactly what type of job her beau should have.

          • Geishakate says:

            Yes, that does sound interesting. However, I won’t meet anybody I haven’t “known” at least a week, and I prefer to have talked on the phone at least once. But, your point about not over informing the person is well-taken. In this instance, there is NOTHING you could possible ask about this woman. She left nothing to be discussed. The profile should just be the starting point.
            (btw your running date was hysterical)

  55. james says:

    “nearly everyone in the world is dating on the internet–with say the exception of 3rd world aboriginals (and 1st world aboriginals living in the Australian Outback)”

    hahahahahaha. that is pretty racist.

  56. YaReally says:

    I swear to god, back in 2005-2007-ish when online dating was still pretty new there were a lot of decently hot young chicks on online dating sites wanting to meet up to party (whether it was just to fuck or to meet up at a bar as groups of friends and all party together). I used to slay on PoF and Lavalife.

    But sometime after that, word got out more and more to the damaged baggage ugly crowd that online dating was “hip” and “everyone’s doing it” and now the hot young chicks are out at the bars and the dating sites are overflowing with fat, slobby, either living on welfare poor or too overworked to have fun, “3 kids, each with a different father”, “no assholes or players or guys who will beat me like every other boyfriend I’ve had”, smoking, angry, mangled teeth, don’t know how to dress or do their makeup, bitter, disgusting women.

    It’s like someone told them “hey girls fuck getting your shit together, you can just put an online profile up and hundreds of men a day will message you because you’re a special little princess!”

    I still have a profile up but I honestly can barely even bring myself to check messages I get because I know right away “cutiebaybee” will be a gross fatty fat and once I’m logged in I’ll look around at all the Viewed Me’s and the Who’s Online and just get depressed at how gross they are.

    It’s 100000000x more satisfying to approach a chick you can SEE is hot and turns you on and can tell she has a cool personality right then and there, and fuck her. At least then if she turns out to have baggage or be boring you were at least able to make sure she looked hot lol

  57. Ed the Department Head says:

    Ohhh! Poor Grandma!

  58. Fred Rotten says:

    Somewhere out there, a *very* lucky therapist is putting a down payment on a Ferrari.

    • Lord Valtrex says:

      Every successful business is based upon billable hours. Never-ending billable hours. Psychotherapy Inc is a prime example of such an enterprise.

    • Holden Caulfield says:

      Fred Rotten FTW

    • John Norman Howard says:

      Lucky my ass… he has to listen to this Harpy Bizarre… every effing inch of that Ferrari was hard-won.

  59. walawala says:

    As you rightly point out, this will strike a chord with a certain kind of beta-loser who would reply saying “I’m not like other guys”, supplicate to “prove himself” only to receive her bitter wrath proving that women secretly or overtly want that which they despise…an asshole.

  60. […] than you can handle online and offline, I suggest you go through the profiles of other women and find the older version of yourself. Read the profile of future you and pay close attention to how you’re going to end up sounding […]

  61. wenders says:

    omg…I stopped reading at the 400 bullet list.

  62. Anonymous says:

    Holy Mother of God! Is she serious, fucked in the head by a rabid burro, or both? With a train of bullshit like that, she’d better be able to suck the chrome of a trailer hitch better than any three 19-year-olds doing Vivid gonzo porn and nastier than Sasha Gray on speed all put together at minimum to make it worth a guy of any age’s while. Somehow, I doubt it.

  63. Born Again Alpha says:

    Frankly I’m a little bit underwhelmed by this post. There are thousands of women with similar profiles on match.com and similar lame dating sites. The number of women on match.com who are 38-43 with 1000 point checklists and who respond “definitely” to the “want children” question makes me shake my head. And reaffirms all of the chateau truths.

  64. Damn, this bitch is whack! I’ve never had anal before, but I would totally plow this chick in the turd-cutter just to prove some sort of point; which I’m not even sure of. Then I would try my best to leave the leave the rubber in her ass, immediately leave, and steal all the loose change from the ashtray on my way out the door.

  65. XOXOfromthemidwest says:

    You spent too much time caring about that crap. What a sour bitch. She will die alone.

    • Holden Caulfield says:

      How many Skittles men do think are in her past? The bitterness level indicates many. . .

  66. Anon says:

    What’s with all the hate towards golddiggers?
    You don’t marry them obviously, and that goes for most western women, but they’re fun to play with. Most of them are deep in histrionic shit, which makes them amusing in a silly way, and they are disposable without a shred of guilt.

    The hard part is to attract them. That’s where peacocking, sense of style and signs of cash become helpful, but you don’t need to be a billionaire to create an illusion.

    I like golddiggers, same way I like sluts. I got no love for them, but no hostility either.
    They’re like hyperfemales, blindly following their instincts. And we are trying to be/become hypermales in here.
    Gotta show some respect to the enemy.

    • Anon says:

      Scratch enemy. I meant counterparts.

    • Anonymous says:

      Agreed. In fact, if a PUA ever gets flaked on but still wants to make the score, the best way to reverse the flaking is to ask about the girl’s financial situation in a concerned manner. It often changes the dynamic and the flaking stops.

  67. LBK says:

    Wow, what a long-winded profile. Blah, blah, blah, blah…way too much information. Extremely boring, too. I couldn’t have gotten thru it without Heartiste’s humorous comments. That woman must be incredibly boring in person.

  68. tom says:

    I freakin love this post !! You absolutely nailed it with your comments. stupid old hag.

  69. Libertardian says:

    Not often that you get to see this level of hubris and the corresponding divine retribution together in the same time and place. That thing is like one long scream of agony.

  70. LBK says:

    She’s 46… she should be home helping her children raise her grandchildren. Oh, she doesn’t have any children? Gee, I wonder why not.

  71. Lewis F says:

    On avoiding online game, most sites have a search feature which allows you to search by age — IE 18-20 ;)

  72. Greg B says:

    Looks like she got banged and dumped by a few fat millionaires. She’s probably impossible to deal with.

  73. zorroprimo says:

    That bitch couldn’t get laid if you lathered her with baby oil and threw her over the wall of a prison yard.

    /Niles Crane

  74. schadenfreude says:

    Lots of schadenfreude here. Any 40+ alpha knows poetic justice… funny how not so long ago you were blowing me off? Did you meet my 19 year old model GF? The epic reversal of fortune former hotties endure defies imagination. You note that she looks skinny.. Indeed, back in the day she was likely 9+ who lost the looks but kept the tude. That explains the over the top bitterness. Unless you’ve been a millionaire living in a mansion and then lost it all The Jerk style to become homeless, you can’t fathom the epic fail of the formerly gorgeous, now single, lonely and desperate.

  75. This is one of those huge things but I don’t think anyone noticed; the sheer amount of times that she refers to herself in the plural. Yea, like royalty.

    Wow, just wow. :-(

  76. LBK says:

    What a long-winded profile. Blah blah blah blah… way too much information. Extremely boring, too. I couldn’t have gotten thru it without our host’s humorous comments. She is probably just as boring in person. Imagine how horrible it would be to sit there and listen to her complain, complain, complain. Ugh.

  77. DelFuego says:

    I’d feel sorry for this woman – if she wasn’t so entitled. She has been lied to about the sexual market place and now she’s angry and confused.

    Her anger is misplaced though. Men never pretended to lust for old and worn out women, did they?

    She doesn’t seem to understand the SMP from the male perspective – beauty and youth are what men look for. Not exclusively, but first, and all things being equal, prettiest wins.

    Women of her age were raised to despise femininity. She’s missed out on the best part of her life as a woman and now she’s raging. And she’s pissed no man wants her and she cant’ see why.

    I see women like this all the time. (I’m 40 btw). Sad story, but charge them to the game. This is what a casualty looks like.

  78. nugganu says:

    Okcupid is full of women 38-44, never married, who either want kids or are still in school. I’ve had quite a few women contact me, the most recent 3 were 27, 29 and 34 respectively. But I’ve also been out with a couple who were underwhelming and even boring. Lots of jewish women on there I’ve noticed.

  79. She will undoubtedly die alone, yet chances are she will get hundreds of responses, encouraging her to believe otherwise.

  80. Anonymous says:

    Meanwhile Ricky Rick Santorum has just pledged to crack down on men who view pornography, which competes with this woman’s profile, being mostly of females 16-21:

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/vigorous-santorum-crackdown-may-catch-internet-porn-viewers-with-pants-down/

    You can be sure that Santorum would install federal judges who feel the US government has every right to regulate male heterosexual behavior – the operative angle would be to make US males terrified of dating women who look anything near 18 years old where even men who viewed realistic but fake IDs will go to prison.

    This isn’t off topic in the least. Santorum is supporting older women like the above in their quest to squelch even *looking* at the competition.

    • Anonymous says:

      Santorum: Government so small, it fits right into your bedroom

    • Nathan says:

      “…where even men who viewed realistic but fake IDs will go to prison.”

      That’s already the law. Statutory rape is a strict liability offense.

      • Student says:

        “Statutory rape is a strict liability offense.”

        in a minority of states (22), yes.

        i suppose its *possible* that being presented a convincing but fake ID would not be enough, if say a 12 yo who looked 14 at best had one which claimed she was 18. but mens rea for a crime this serious requires intent and that would be obviated by the due diligence of asking for the ID of someone who could be reasonably confused as someone of age.

        this is why lawyers get paid fairly well if theyre decent at what they do. cuz this stuff isn’t as simple as you might think.

    • EvilAlpha says:

      I don’t care what your other positions are, but any man who wants to criminalize porn other than that produced my feminists is not a man.

    • tyrone says:

      Of course. He’s going for the Churchlady vote with this one. He is being a dumbass, as most every man will drop him like hot Plutonium.

  81. tyrone says:

    The worst part is that she would likely place as many demands and rules in the bedroom too.

  82. Spiralina says:

    [this part of her profile reads like a much younger walk-on came in and polished it up.]

    I think you glossed over that part too quickly. Within that “first thing people notice about me” section lies the key to her entire trainwreck of insanity. This, ladies and gentleman, is HOW SHE REALLY SEES HERSELF. She truly, honestly sees herself as a kind, nice, polite woman with a radiant smile, who touches the world with compassion and sweetness. This delusional self-image is likely reinforced on a daily basis by her equally nutty friends.

    So the question that naturally follows in her mind is, why don’t the men see me as the beautiful ray of sunshine I really am? Why do only weirdo losers contact me and then never call me back? Could it be that I’m actually a mean-tempered, nasty, cigar-chomping, ball-busting beyotch only good for a pump and dump? Hell no, that would disrupt my inner dialogue too much! It must be their fault! They’re just dickless losers who chase after dumb 20-somethings because they’re too immature to handle a real woman. (Also they dress like shit, and their photos are lame, and their approach lines suck, and have I mentioned what a nice and polite person I am?) And from this cognitive dissonance a man-hater is born.

    But for what it’s worth, it’s kind of you to take down her profile link. Even the casual reader can see the pain and confusion underlying that rant, and it’s not fun to break something that’s already broken.

    [heartiste: good point. missed that. the disconnect is what fuels her bad attitude in perpetuity.]

    • Fred Rotten says:

      @Spiralina

      “But for what it’s worth, it’s kind of you to take down her profile link. Even the casual reader can see the pain and confusion underlying that rant, and it’s not fun to break something that’s already broken.”

      Yeah, you’re probably right about that. But I *really* wanted to see what she looks like. My curiosity is driving me nuts! (not ‘nuts’ like her, though; I mean the good kind)

  83. Anonymous says:

    Anyone else think her suggestion that older men shop for clothing at The Gap is the most incongruous detail?

    [heartiste: yes. the gap! older men should be fitted out in custom suits, a la g manifesto.]

  84. FFS. says:

    This woman hasn’t had a decent fuck in years. You can tell she’s bitter about this. I think the Chateau was too harsh on the bitch though as this fact should have been taken into consideration before going in hard. However on second thoughts, I’ve changed my mind as she thoroughly deserves it.

    Can we at least have a link and see what she looks like?

  85. AssNeck says:

    A 46-year-old woman should not have a 1,000 point checklist any more than I should have had one as a dorky 14-year-old boy with glasses, no muscle tone and little sense of style.

  86. Anonymous says:

    Look at the difference between Santorum’s wife and his 18 year old daughter Sarah-Maria and then come up with a theory about why he is so viciously against men being able to have sex with anyone like his daughter:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/14/opinion/welch-santorum-second-place/index.html

    Hint: It has nothing to do with the protective father syndrome. There has to be something much more sinister eating at Santorum’s brain.

  87. carolyn says:

    its only now i could bring myself to read the comments, imagining the cruel pile-on that i oh so rightly predicted.

    this post is unworthy of you, heartiste. she’s too easy a target; your fisking is like shooting fish in a barrel.

    i could only get part way thru her rant and your put-down. she’s clearly a woman undergoing a melt-down and she unwisely posted while in that mood (she’s apparently since come to her senses having taken it down). you should behave like one does when witnessing indecorous behavior- look away and pretend to ignore it while clearing your throat.

    [heartiste: you know carolyn, your gentle plea for mercy has softened this king’s heart. upon reflection, i will remove this post. the example has been made, the message is out that the obligation to please the opposite sex runs both ways, *should* run both ways. this woman is too far gone for salvation. her kind are innumerable. nothing i can do from my throne in this secluded chateau in the countryside will alter the forces of chaos unraveling all that is good, true and beautiful. but this once, perhaps my mercy will strike a disturbance in the maelstrom.]

    • GeishaKate says:

      Why don’t we just help her rewrite it? There are scads of talented writers here.

    • driveallnight says:

      This is a public service announcement that might save lives, Carolyn. You know, just like those graphic new “stop smoking” ads.

      Sometimes you gotta be cruel to be kind.

    • itsme says:

      don’t be gay, heartsie.

    • That Guy says:

      @Carolyn,

      Not true – her profile is still there – and she was online last night.

      I’m sure CH gave her free publicity, and she’s now wading through her inbox

      • driveallnight says:

        Sadly, this is probably true. Those manginas you saw lined up around the block this morning, the ones you assumed were waiting to buy the new iPad3?

        Nope.

    • GeishaKate says:

      Let’s just help her rewrite it. There are scads of talented writers here. It’d take ten minutes tops!

      • itsme says:

        see? this is proof that even amongst the more reasonable females, the pull of the collective female hive mind is too strong to resist.

        resistance
        is
        futile

        • Geishakate says:

          Did you just refer to me as “more reasonable”?

          *faints dead away*

        • John Norman Howard says:

          I was thinking the same thing… without the “more reasonable” qualifier… especially after Lara kicked in with her zwei pfennig.

          • carolyn says:

            sigh…

            john, john, john… don’t you _ever_ agree with any of the women that post here? or are you just being reflexively ornery?

            =)

          • John Norman Howard says:

            I have, on an occasion or two, given props where due to the gals.

            But truth be told, the women who post here are tedious, at best… mostly because they’re either outright femcunts, or trying to be “one of the guys”… in the case of the latter, there are always telltale signs that they’re closet sisterhood-is-powerful, rather than stand-by-your-man, types.

            And that includes you, special snowflake. ;-)

    • Lara says:

      She might like the excitement of it all.

    • GeishaKate says:

      Come In! I’m Making Dessert!

      When I’m not baking, I run my own business and love to travel. I appreciate old-fashioned phone calls and respond to men who respect my boundaries. I’m drawn to a man who is humble and sincere. I’ve met a lot of wallets in my life, so you’re going to need something more than that to impress me ;)

      I’m here because I want to meet someone reasonable–intelligent, successful, happy, that I’m attracted to physically and emotionally.

      I could tell you more, but let’s leave a little to the imagination, shall we?

    • carolyn says:

      ‘her kind are innumerable.’

      nice.

      ‘And Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” He replied, “My name is Legion, for we are many.’Mark 5:9

      indeed they are. maybe with resistance to radical feminism we can beat back the bases of the misery of this poor woman. isn’t there some happy medium between the repressive 50′s and the decadent 00′s?

  88. anon says:

    “The Sad, Bitter End”

    Reminds me of Dostoyevsky’s ‘Notes from the Underground,’ in which a deranged omega male protagonist with delusions of grandeur rants and rants, with a priceless ending to the short story.

  89. Days of Broken Arrows says:

    One thing no one has mentioned is that this profile is the end result of the new Yuppie trend of parents raising their girls as boys.

    Classic femininity became anathema to the upper middle class somewhere along the line. Parents began pushing and schools pushed girls into competitive sports and academics, and what we’re now reaping is the type of woman who behaves and thinks like a man. And then wonders why no men want her. (Aside: has anyone noticed more and more girls are getting boys names now? This is symbolic.)

    One of the most depressing things I’m seeing in my upper-middle-class DC suburb is the lack of female sexuality amongst teenage and post-teen girls. Used to be that you’d see you girls and sort of need a moment to think. Now, they travel like packs of guys. I’ve noticed, though, that when I travel to the less affluent parts of town, you can still see the classic, miniskirt-wearing, gum-snapping sexy young girl. If they’re not overweight, that is. That says something.

    • the_alpha_male says:

      I agree with everything you say except “the type of woman who behaves and thinks like a man.”

      Should read “the type of woman who behaves and thinks how she perceives a man behaves and thinks”.

      They don’t have the T levels and lower E levels to truly know how a man behaves and thinks so they act like they do.

      • Days of Broken Arrows says:

        Excellent point. I’ve read somewhere that when women try to act like men they only take on the worst, most cliched qualities of men and ignore the chivalry, etc.

    • Nine Furies says:

      DoBA your comment made me think of something I saw recently. I work security at a popular SWPL bar that plays host to 3 rich kid colleges which have loads of young beautiful girls just off their parents leash and ready for indoctrination and cock carouseling.

      Im at work and I see 2 of these girls in bright colored dresses and not unnatractive either. They spot each other from about 10 ft away in the bar and proceed to run up and chest bump one another like dudes who just scored a touchdown as a fucking greeting! They were dead serious too.

      • Days of Broken Arrows says:

        Nine Furies,

        Hahaha! Exactly what I was talking about. Also I forgot to mention tattoos, which is yet another item on the checklist of today’s women when it comes to ways to be like men.

  90. Opus says:

    She is a woman whom ‘life has passed by’. She’s not the first and she certainly won’t be the last. As LBK says at 10.45, she should be at home, helping with grand-children, yet there aren’t and clearly can’t even be any children. As Spiralina says at 7.44 there is cognitive dissonance between how she sees herself and how men see her, thus one alternates between amusement and sad despair at her delusions of desirablity and marriagability. Sadly, I know women like this, thrashing about, throwing themselves at men who can never give them what they want (gigolos, thugs, married-men), yet at the same time dissing or playing absurdly hard-to-get – as if they are still 23 and at the peak of their hotness – any half decent male who might show some interest, and then rationalising away their misery by claiming not to be interested, or that they have never been happier and fulfilled.

  91. Flahute says:

    What a fuckin’ train wreck. I just couldn’t keep reading.

  92. Wow, this long winded diatribe just gave me joke material for the next year.

  93. daniel says:

    Couldn’t bare to read 20%.

  94. Jack says:

    Great read! I enjoy your blog thoroughly, but don’t you think you were a little rough on the Beaver last night, Ward? Reading that ad, I feel sorry for her.

  95. Ollie says:

    Whether it be wall-smashing 30-plus careerists or junkie wannabe starlets, its always sad to see ladies faithfully following the delusions fed to them by Hollywood and reaping the inevitable “rewards”.

    Speaking of junkie wannabe starlets:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2115840/Satara-Stratton-safe-Small-town-girl-moved-Hollywood-actress-heroin-addict-okay.html

  96. Gil says:

    This old moo needs a kitten or two . . . or three or four.

  97. John Ivey says:

    u bitter, sis?

  98. itsme says:

    it’s because, as we all know, gender is a social construct.

  99. CaptainAhab says:

    I see this happen to confused women when they first realize that they age like milk, not wine.

  100. spartan says:

    hey i work out. i havent done steroids, but i have a really nice body that women love.
    interent dating has been perfect for me because its so easy to get a lay by just putting a picture of me with no shirt on a dating site.

    womens pussy gets wet and they can help but contact me.
    there is many types of site with many types of girls looking for different things, from simple hookups to relationships.
    just cos this 46 year old warpig was on a site doesnt mean all girls are unnattractive on the internet.

    internet dating is the way of the future.

  101. Just a Girl says:

    This whole post makes me sad for that woman. Her demographic is an awful one to occupy in the dating market, and she doesn’t know how to make the best of her situation. I can only hope I am still in a satisfying sexual/romantic relationship with a good man at her age.

  102. Lovekraft says:

    Hey Screenwriters! Next time you are stuck looking for an idea for the most hideous monster conceivable for men, just use this profile for ideas!

  103. Lovekraft says:

    This profile would fit to a “t” the ultimate villain in a horror movie marketed to the male audience.

    • John Norman Howard says:

      She makes Glen Close of Fatal Attraction seem like Glen Close of The Natural.

  104. pippinator says:

    Everybody gets somebody…if they are willing to accept anybody. But the existance of standards and refusing to settle effectively means that there is NOT somebody for everybody. some guys really are irrecoverable omegas, there’s nothing they can do, and that they will be alone their whole lives because they refuse to accept dregs. In fact, nobody talks about these guys. Nobody ever has, except maybe Vox Day and David Alexander.

  105. brian says:

    She just got 24 hours older and less attractive. Bummer.

  106. Phillyastro says:

    Get thee to a nunnery…

  107. JACKAL says:

    “Seriously [i’m serious for you, cougarmama!] understand, that why you may want to relive your life and feel good about yourself from dating a 20 year old [yes, it feels pretty good to date a 20 year old] –she’s only using you for your money [men who are being used for their money still prefer it to the alternative. namely, you],”

    Last sentence in brackets sums up this site and the truth perfectly. Nothing more to say…

    • John Norman Howard says:

      Yeah, it’s funny how women think “she’s just using you for your money” is a compelling argument or put-down.

      Hell, that’s what we’re here for… to use them for their bodies and to spend a buck, when it suits our fancy.

      • JACKAL says:

        “Yes m’aam. and I’m just using her for her mind”…

      • Warrioress of Ultramar says:

        And how about dumping a sincere 8 for a 6 at her best and, most likely, a gold-digger? (The rating is based on facial attractiveness solely, since both are very thin 19-year-olds with approximately the same IQ level.) Provided the guy has everything to score higher – money, status, property, fame even (as an underground rock musician who’s been around since 80s, a 40something now). How’s that for perverse?

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  109. Gramps says:

    It is funny how women in their 40′s get more fussy, not less. Just had a discussion with two women in that age range, both unmarried (one divorced). Both are eager to find a long term relationship guy, but their fussiness about the man they want to meet just blew me away. Like, what ARE they thinking?
    For example:
    ” I’ll date 5 years above and 10 years below my age.”
    “I would never date a man who owns cats. I won’t live in house with cats and so there is no future in it.”

    Plus, all the usual put downs of socially awkward men they have met on match.com (“He was an actuary!” or “You couldn’t pay me a thousand dollars to spend an hour with him.” Oh, and he has to have money, of course.

    Fellows, there is no hope for some women. Avert your eyes. It ain’t pretty. Move on.

    And, about younger women not wanting older men. My son-in-law’s father (in his early 70′s, and a certifiable sociopath) now has two young kids with his umpteeth live in girlfriend. (Does Asian count as a real girlfriend in the view of over-the-hill white women?) And, that man has no money. She supports him. I did say he is a sociopath.

    • Anonymous says:

      Thanks for taking one for the team by having a conversation with someone in that demographic.

  110. Flip says:

    “From birth to age eighteen, a girl needs good parents. From eighteen to thirty-five she needs good looks. From thirty-five to fifty-five, she needs a good personality. From fifty-five on, she needs good cash.”
    -Sophie Tucker

    She is in the “good personality” stage, which she doesn’t have. A post-child bearing aged woman can only offer companionship to men and for that she needs to be companionable.

  111. Burton says:

    …or driven crazy by the immaturity factor

    i.e., older female insanely jealous over younger females.

    Interesting thing is, I’ve found that younger women are often more mature (whatever that word might mean) than older womyn. The older womyn are driven by fits of insane/inane jealousy over young women, as well as spending a lot of time bouncing off the walls trying to recapture their lost sexual power. Younger women are more self-assured and can at least appear to act like human beings on occasion.

    But posts like this womyn’s are useful for informing men of what is really out there in the online dating scene, and perhaps deterring those men who can open their eyes.

  112. Gramps says:

    I guess to imagine the situation of these sorts of women, we would have to imagine that we were born rich, with plenty of money, say an endless, prepaid credit card, and for the first 30 years of our lives we just waved that card and people jumped to get us what we wanted. So, we remained shallow, and conceited, and self-centered.

    Then, starting in our mid 30′s, the card’s effectiveness starting getting erratic. By our late forties, almost nobody would take our money.

    That has to be unpleasant. It is not nice to realize you will live the rest of your life without the love and affection of someone you respect and love in return. But, I can’t feel a bit sorry for any of them. Remember, they are not victims. They are perpetrators. They rather have dogs and cats then some “subpar” male in their lives. They’ll adjust and do fine eventually. Finally, old age will make all these concerns seem risible.

    • Days of Broken Arrows says:

      This is a great analogy, Gramps.

      And speaking of dinners, instead of the commenters on here feeling sorry for her, they should feel sorry instead for the chumps that buy her dinners and then get to feel the wrath of her real personality. I brought this to this blog for a reason — so people could see what they were up against dealing with older women like this.

      On the other hand, I have to mention that I’ve noticed that once women realize the “sell by” date is long past, the tune changes. I’ve had messages from women on that site on the other side of 50 that basically say (I’m paraphrasing): “You’re cute! Door’s open if you want it!”

      Not that I’ve ever walked through such doors, metaphorically speaking.

    • Herzog says:

      It’s important to remember that these women deserve little sympathy. The fun experiences they had when they were riding the cock carousel came at the expense of the beta’s in there teens and 20′s who had to live in near celibacy during the physical prime years of their life.

  113. Georgie Porgie says:

    GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
    Old time is still a-flying :
    And this same flower that smiles to-day
    To-morrow will be dying.

    The glorious lamp of heaven, the sun,
    The higher he’s a-getting,
    The sooner will his race be run,
    And nearer he’s to setting.

    That age is best which is the first,
    When youth and blood are warmer ;
    But being spent, the worse, and worst
    Times still succeed the former.

    Then be not coy, but use your time,
    And while ye may go marry :
    For having lost but once your prime
    You may for ever tarry.

    – Robert Herrick

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