An argument made by the pro-gay marriage crowd — one which Andrew RawMuscleGlutes Sullivan leaned on to prolapse his agenda into the social consciousness — is that marriage would “domesticate” gays because the wider social norms governing heterosexual marriage would infiltrate gay marriage.
Others warn that the sexual norms surrounding homosexuality would instead travel the opposite direction and infiltrate heterosexual marriage and corrode the institution over time. There are three powerful arguments for a gay –> straight transmission of sexual norms rather than a straight –> gay transmission of norms (and keep in mind gays have FAR MORE lifetime sexual partners and deviant predilections than heteros):
- Through the courts. As the courts have essentially been corrupted into a legislative branch of the Left after a long wind into legal positivism, what happens is that the “problems of the penumbras” created by gay marriage and the legal wrangling to accommodate those penumbras will necessarily and inevitably be applied in kind to heterosexual marriage.
- Precedent. The history of social movements is ever toward the Left. As chris wrote,
“Now ask yourself, the people on the left pushing gay marriage. Do they have a history of trying to erode and dismantle the nuclear family, do they have a history of trying to erode and dismantle anti-cuckoldry laws and norms, do they have a history of trying to erode and dismantle Patriarchy? To answer the question is to illuminate their agenda with respect to gay marriage and the plausible direction that such equality will take.”
- Perception. Sexuality underlies the whole reason for marriage, and we can take cues from the non-marital tributaries of the sexual market to see how marriage norms can shift. And we find for instance that perceived norms of sexual behavior have a bigger influence on teen sex behavior than does peer pressure. What we think is happening in society influences our personal decisions. Thanks to a 24/7 pozzed media pushing gayness into our homes, Americans consistently and vastly overestimate the number of gays. As the actual sexual practices of gays become normalized, straights will perceive gay abnormality as normal, and this shift in perception will energize a “progressive” shift in the courts. (Gay marriage went from a joke to majority approval in twenty years, partly from court activism helping to normalize the gay lifestyle. That’s the power of perception.) In this way, the extremes of sexual behavior tolerated by a society tend to pull the traditional norm in the direction of the novel norms.
Even if there was norm cross-over — that is, gay norms meeting hetero norms in the middle for a half-rainbow compromise — the effect would be to gay-ify society, since a norm imported to 98% of the population will have a much larger impact on overall society than would a norm imported to 2% of the population.
Novelty-seeking is a hallmark of atomized societies (hyper-individualism and lack of social connection drive people to seek novel experiences to fill the nihilistic void), and gay marriage with its attendant gay sexual norms is a novelty that a disintegrating society won’t be able to resist embracing.
Hetero men with a good brain think about things like “what about kind of world will I leave to my kids, grandkids, great-grandkids, etc.” Homos think about things like “what kind of rights will we leave to future generations of homos.” One point of view preserves societies, the other ends them.
LikeLiked by 2 people
Historian and author Niall Ferguson has apologised “unreservedly” for “stupid and tactless” remarks in which he implied that John Maynard Keynes did not care about future generations – because he was childless and gay. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/may/04/niall-ferguson-apologises-gay-keynes
LikeLike
One of the other instances of gay -> straight transmission is through standard-bearer nations.
The United States is the predominant example of a standard-bearer nation, exporting its values to, say, Brazil, corrupting the joyful Latino vibe of trad-male, sub-female. If enough standard-bearer nations gather to upthrust the penis of the homo, it will have the “allure of the inevitable,” driving even nations like Poland into its foul embrace.
And finally, when we look at gays, and their gay pride parades, this is a sub-set of transmission. Weirdly dancing, scantily clad men, parading before children, are a kind of “visual approval” of their lifestyle, and the weird tends to overshadow the boringly typical.
LikeLike
“Brazil, corrupting the joyful Latino vibe of trad-male, sub-female”
LOL’ing @ the JIDF today. Importing s0d0mite norms into the USA is precisely the same thing as importing BRAZILIAN norms.
LikeLike
LikeLike
*patiently* It is not. Plenty of hetero American men talk about the joys of Colombia and Brazil (though not Prudish Argentina), compared to the Anglosphere. Not ONE man ever said America, Canada, Aus., U.K. was a paradise for the general man. Look up any traveler’s journals, even that sad-sack depressant Roosh.
LikeLike
“Not ONE man ever said America, Canada, Aus., U.K. was a paradise for the general man.”
LOL’ing @ the JIDF.
LikeLike
Black guys a a couple times or so more likely to be gay than whites and Brazil gots a lot of black heritage.
LikeLike
Imagine that! SaucyQueer is worried that the US is going to influence the sexual mores of (of all places!) Brazil.
(((shakin’ mah haid)))
LikeLike
In a weird way, I consider it an HONOR that the two STANDARD BEARERS of the heartiste-community are against me. Until I convince Ob and El, there’s no hope for me here — and you guys are the top two, no doubt about that, with all frank due honesty to you. I’m just the newcomer.
LikeLike
WTF did they do with that account today? It’s as though they reassigned it to some (((Rebecca))) who’s a freshman at Brandeis [or maybe only a senior at Scarsdale High School].
LikeLike
In a weird way, I consider it an HONOR that the two STANDARD BEARERS of the community are against me.
It certainly is a weird when a sack of trash is honored to be taken out.
LikeLike
How many days until you ditch this username (again) and switch to another once you realize you still give people the creeps?
LikeLike
The 800 lb flouncing gorilla in the room is that queers are always looking to recruit, since they can’t reproduce.
And who are they “feeling out”?
Our sons and daughters.
Luke 17:26-29
LikeLiked by 1 person
For those wanting to find out more about sexual traveling outside the feminist-poisoned Angloshitpile, I recommend:
http://naughtynomad.com/
He has a great cheerful attitude and vibe, and reminds me of the Irishman who puts out the (very good) linguistic tapes on the Net. Check him out. He’s free.
LikeLike
If we want to know of any “sexual traveling” candidates for perdition, we’ll let you know, sodomite. 😡
Do us a favor, SaucyQueer, and don’t help us into any handbaskets… we can find enough paths to hell on our own.
(((shakin’ mah haid)))
LikeLike
Links like that are typically JIDF honey traps created to harvest our IP addresses when we click on them.
LikeLike
To toot my own horn, I now have approx. 20 articles (star entries) at my own site, which can be found at.
http://starofmagic.wordpress.com
With Heartiste’s indulgence, I list it at all. I won’t belabor the audience by pointing out that I think it’s the greatest thing ever, which it is. Yours. S.
in the future, I hope to form a web-alliance between H&S — which should be interesting.
LikeLike
A web alliance between you and CH would be more than interesting…
… it would be a fucking miracle.
Go sashay around HuffPo, if you must flounce.
We doan need yo’ KIND, ’round chere.
LikeLike
Fabulous, another website chock full of stuff no one will read. I suppose writing all that crap at least distracts you from confronting the yawning abyss that is your utterly useless existence.
LikeLike
ಠ__ಠ
LikeLike
As with all of these absurd Orwellian campaigns, all paths lead to Feminism. It’s the feminists who have been doing all they can to destroy straight marriage, and infiltrated our pre schools with the degeneracy of Tranny fags teaching impressionable toddlers and their even more impressionable mothers about the falsehood of multiple genders. It’s the feminists who have supported gay rights, which in reality was about giving them more rights than straight people. I do think that we are at the beginning of a back vicious and severe backlash. Where a lot of the false victories that feminists have won will turn against them, and it will start with employers not hiring women. And it will end with taking the vote away from women which be a good thing. Because only men are interested in politics women are just interested in how much money they can take from men.
LikeLike
A HIV- fucking a HIV+ doesn’t make two HIV-‘s
LikeLike
maybe it will get rid of child support then and whoever can raise kid does
LikeLike
Sorcerygod
*patiently* It is not. Plenty of hetero American men talk about the joys of Colombia and Brazil (though not Prudish Argentina), compared to the Anglosphere. Not ONE man ever said America, Canada, Aus., U.K. was a paradise for the general man. Look up any traveler’s journals, even that sad-sack depressant Roosh.”””””
yea I wanted more stuff from around world cause I can’t raise kids here
you right people did like brazil
never seen anyone come back unhappy from Thailand
coming back from states suicidal yea multiple times
LikeLike
I don’t think anyone actually came back from us vacation happy
Budapest yea
LikeLike
LikeLike
That’s the power of perception
Perception is Reality …………… FTW
LikeLike
‘[T]he courts have essentially been corrupted into a legislative branch of the Left after a long wind into legal positivism…. The history of social movements is ever toward the Left.’
What burns me is that Trump has to fight uphill against activist judges and both GOP-controlled houses of Congress, when these same people were happy to rubber-stamp Butt Nekkid’s worst outrages.
LikeLike
L, look on the bright side of things: The veil has been lifted. We now know the Truth: Both the DEMs & the GOP despise heritage Amerikkka and want to see it destroyed.
Traitors first. Then j00z.
LikeLike
In other news, woman working as a contractor at a West Texas county jail gets fired for taking selfies with inmates in the kitchen.
Now, according to this article, and I quote, “Now investigators are busy pulling surveillance tapes to see if anything else may have transpired, perhaps something that these photos didn’t capture.” And I suspect what this may mean. Woman was probably banging the bad boys.
http://www.cbs7.com/content/news/Investigation-into-selfie-taken-with-Ector-County-Jail-inmates-is-far-from-over-468731703.html
LikeLike
If you’ve ever been divorced in America, you will know the reason why they pushed so hard for gay marriage. Gays earn more and have fewer expenses often without children. Divorce attorneys love that scenario.
LikeLike
Is there a way to invest in anal reconstructive surgery? I predict a booming market. Alternatively, invest in Kimberly-Clark, the depends producer.
LikeLike
Nope, invest in rope futures. The industry will rise high, in time.
LikeLike
mod-limit achieved. count ’em, you suspicious types. it’s a fucken bot.
LikeLike
OK try agin
“EEEW!. Get murrid? Ain’t that a Gay thing?”
LikeLike
Understanding the directional tendency of influence of the gaysewerpipe is best done through the lens of epidemiology; it is a matter of vectors.
And I say tendency because how the disease manifests physically mirrors its meta-course. As in, the malignant brutalizing of what would normally be the healthy waste exit. All matters of backflow ensue, leading to a constellation of comorbidity.
Nature tells us all we need to know about the disease based on its reproduction. Which, in the case of the gays is a mere facsimile of normalcy: walking genetic dead-ends colliding in desperate and feverish fits, hammering obviously physical dead ends to LARP out the ghost of its biological drive.
This gay rutting results only in emptiness. The only thing propagated are the other carrier diseases, nature’s markers of danger. The corresponding nihilism and veiled longing for death so common in this population comes as no surprise.
With no means to propagate (validate existence), the disease must manifest through non-phsycial vectors. And the leftist, low-T, decadent kulture provides the means for the disease can replicate, mutate, and become airborne to search for a means to propagate within the surrounding healthy population. Progress is one big petri dish for disease.
So we end up with things like HIV. But worse, the gayvirus begins to alter the thoughts and behaviors of its host community. Like a virus can blunt a mouse’s sense of smell to mask the urine of its predator, the gayvirus has blunted the host population’s ability to siff-out and snuff out the depraved and sick actions of the diseased.
We are all equal. Now go bake my fucking cake.
tl;dr The vector of Grinder—>Tindr—>Bumble tells us which way the gayshitpipe flows.
LikeLike