A field report from reader Sentient nicely illustrates the importance of a fundamental game concept: kino.
From a sporting event…
Lots of outside bars in tents etc. Lots of women milling about, lots of drinking. Was with a white knight buddy. great guy but white knight to the core – even though he is pretty alpha in a lot of ways.
White knights span the male SMV spectrum, from sniveling sidekick-hopeful omega to brawling bodyguard-for-hire alpha, although most of them bunch up in the back-middle of the SMV geld curve, where lesser beta males dominate.
They all share one thing in common: Toolbaggery.
So I am in a good mood, but have to keep flirtation on a low boil with him around babysitting me. some flirting with women, at one point I am laughing and joking with a 7 and I put my arm on her bare shoulder. she is laughing.. we stroll off. He later says “man you assaulted that girl”. I’m like you can’t be serious, he says, “you touched her”. I cracked up and rolled my eyes.
Later he is busy doing something, I am getting a drink. 21 YO bartender, 5’5 and maybe 105 lbs. Very slim. My type for sure. We are bantering. I see her wrist has a tattoo on it and she sees me look. she goes into “oh you saw that, it was a mistake”. I look at her and pull her skinny arm over and look at her wrist, tracing the outline of her quarter size tattoo, “what the hell is this supposed to be?” I ask her. she laughs and says a friend did it, it was a rebellious phase. I keep tracing it and laser eyeing. Then break contact. we chat – blah blah. She is in town for the event and new job she just travels from event to event with this company. So I tease her about a young girl on the road stuff. she comes from deep backwoods OH.
So I notice the vibe is growing and she keeps coming out from behind the bar and walking 15 feet or so past me to a garbage bin to do stuff like throw out a single napkin, or a single can of beer.
Women will happily inconvenience themselves for a man who intrigues them.
So I know she is doing this for my benefit, so I can look at her. I comment on her build and ask if she dances as she walks by me again. she gives me the over the shoulder look and says no but everyone asks that. So as she comes back to me i say “come here” and put my hand out. she gives me her hand and I give her the PUA spin LOL and she lights up “whoa!” and laughs and I say she moves pretty good even though she is not a dancer, while pulling her in closer. she giggles and scurries behind the bar again. Between the infrequent customers we continue to banter.
She comes over close over the bar, I have both hands spread out past shoulder width on the bar, laser eyeing. she puts her head down but lifts her eyes to mine, a very submissive and alluring posture and then motions with her eyes to my left hand… “soooooo… Is your wife here?” I laugh and say “Oh you noticed my jewelry” and say “nah she is home” and now she is more coyly saying, “well what would she say about us talking…” I say “that doesn’t concern her now does it” and move to try and set something up for later with her. It becomes clear though that she is a No Married Guys girl and I realize I am negotiating with her about meeting up later. So I cut it off, lightheartedly, say I need to go catch up with my buddy. She says well come back she has this same spot all weekend.. blah blah.
I need to get some better game on these no married guys girls… More preparation, because 50% of the time they don’t care or ask, 25% of the time it’s a straight up turn on and that 25% of the time where they are interested but won’t budge… that surprises me and I fumble…
Thoughts?
First, your field report is a great example of the critical importance of early, boundary-crossing touch to the seduction process. Grabbing the arm of a female stranger, tracing her tattoo… these are actions almost incomprehensible to the beta male/white knight mind. If you obeyed social convention, cultural signals, and instinct, you would never touch a girl you’ve just met in this manner. And that is why you would fail.
Touching a girl throws her cognitive dissonance about courtship into stark relief. If you were to ask, most girls would assert that they would never want any man to touch them. If you were to watch them being seduced, nearly every girl would be stricken with aroused smiles as the man’s hands investigated parts of her body.
Second, your game question. If you want those 25% of girls averse to sleeping with married men, why not just remove your ring? It’s not like that additional deception atop the other deception of giving life to your extramarital licentiousness will be the one to break your moral bank.
Wedding ring ambiguity: wear it on your right hand. You can play it off a being widowed or having just come back from Europe.
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That’s a good one PA, and of course I could always just take it off, but I’m not into tricking a girl. If they accept who I am, they accept it.
And 75% of the time it’s not a negative. I just need tighter game and be more prepared the rest of the time.
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“I’m not into tricking a girl. If they accept who I am, they accept it.”
lol Just the one you made a sacred promise to in front of God and (presumably) yours and her family, right?
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Girl with intrigue: ‘bla bla bla wedding ring’
Man well prepared: ‘Oh that. I’m not married, it’s just a useful escape route from unwanted female attention’
No moral quandary for her + subtle preselection from you = game on
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Early kino is indeed a good thing to have. Aside from whatever opportunity comes up naturally there are a few ways I keep in mind. For example, there is a place I often take girls, and to get there you have to walk up steep steps on a hill with no railing most of the way. I put the girl’s hand on my arm then when we walk up the steps. This is also a good indicator of her interest, how long she keeps her hand there, and she will know that.
Grabbing her arm as you are moving through a crowd or when you are about to cross a busy street is a subtle way of showing you are looking out for her while being in charge. (I keep this one in mind ever since I used to date a girl who would walk out in the street without looking for cars first. In Belgium. Which is a death sentence waiting to happen.)
Palm reading while holding her hand in yours is a tried-and-true way when you are facing each other across a table. Just remember what you are going to say so you don’t hesitate. And of course, make it funny. When you are done you can squeeze her hand hard and put it down on the table like a wrestler wrestling another to the ground; it’s a better way to end the contact than just withdrawing your hand.
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FWIW – strong boyfriend posture kino has always been basically accepted by girls, so do it early and often. The worst a girl has done if she wasn’t interested is take my hand off her thigh or something slight like that, turn their cheek if going for a kiss or comment that maybe I was a little “handsy”. Then it’s just a calibration issue. They stay in set…
None have slapped me, screamed, called a bouncer, etc. Don’t be put off by a long list of “what if’s” that’s just bad conditioning you’re channeling!
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Kinda tautological, but chicks want to be hit on by the guys whom they want to be hit on, whereas woe be unto the dude who tries but fails and ends up looking “creepy”. How to NOT come off as “creepy” might require a CH essay every day for a frigging year. Probably it’s best to crib Vince Lombardi’s advice: “When you approach the endzone, act like you’ve been there before.”
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“How to NOT come off as “creepy”
Opposite George thinking would be a good start. If every instinct is wrong, then the opposite must be true. Hella general, but a good starting point.
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“If your game sucks, try role reversing everything you do, except in real life and not just as a post-rejection self-assessment exercise. Think Opposite George. Report back to us with the results, Or do the opposite, and don’t.”
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/role-reversal-as-a-test-of-your-game
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Have a comment stuck in mod. CH has a post on this, call role reversal.
“If your game sucks, try role reversing everything you do, except in real life and not just as a post-rejection self-assessment exercise. Think Opposite George. Report back to us with the results, Or do the opposite, and don’t.”
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Kinda tautological, but chicks want to be hit on by the guys whom they want to be hit on, whereas woe be unto the dude who tries but fails and ends up looking “creepy”.
I don’t much care for these complaints going around, that women are unfair in preferring to be hit on by some men but not by the speaker. As for the word creepy, when you’re at a night club or other places, seeing all sorts of people of both sexes, then you see there are men who act in repulsive ways. There are lowlives in both sexes.
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Arbiter, Joe Biden is one heartbeat away from having his finger on the Nuke Button – he’s easily among the Top 10 most powerful men in the world – and he is handsome and he has a mellifluous voice and he is very wealthy [thanks to all the bribes from MBNA]. So he ought to be an Apex Alpha – an Alpha amongst Alphas – and yet his attempt to molest this little girl struck everyone who saw it [except for her c0ck-sucking Gamma of an un-father] as being completely CREEPY. Epic Kino Fail.
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“It’s not like that additional deception atop the other deception of giving life to your extramarital licentiousness will be the one to break your moral bank.”
Backhanded shiv CH? Life is long, women are complicated… the lines are blurry…[someone should write a song]…
Which is more moral being true to your nature or denying your nature? I know which increases a wife’s ardor…
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If you live in Ohio or Michigan, I’ll be happy to give you my husband’s contact information. If you’re wife has any brains at all, you’ll be in need of it.
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Kim, do you like the Magic Wand?
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Kim,
I don’t understand why you want Sentient to be in contact with your husband.
What am I missing here??
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I’m guessing she’s saying, in her own little cunty way, that hubby is a lawyer specializing in divorce.
Odd how she suddenly shows up at the chateau to offer such services as a left-handed lending-of-hand, but actually trying to shame him and rally to the sisterhood “dviorce that bum!” wagon-circle.
That said, ol’ rake Sentient probably shouldn’t be making himself out to be this week’s poster boy for philanderers.
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Greg nails it… Never trust a woman, because they always have the sistahood’s back… that is unless it’s women to women in direct competition, then its claws out… which underscores the point – never trust a woman.
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“Sentient is an Eskimo who works in Hollyweird – probably somewhere more or less between Pasadena and Thousand Oaks – or even just between Burbank and Beverly Hills.”
What do you mean by Eskimo? I thought he lived in the Midwest?
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Let’s try this again: If you live in Ohio or Michigan, I’ll be happy to give you my husband’s contact information. If your wife has any brains at all, you’ll be in need of it.
Much better.
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We don’t know Sentient’s home situation, only he knows that.
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Midwest scheisters… I hate Midwest scheisters.
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@arbiter – “We don’t know Sentient’s home situation, only he knows that.”
This is the value of realtalk and understanding the nature of women… when you go OUT OF YOUR WAY to avoid sexual situations with (many) other women, your wife – well she wont thank you… in fact she will scorn you and resent you.
But when you play the field a bit – even if she only suspects it – she will be turned on and reward you.
Cats are not dogs indeed…
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“the nature of women… when you go OUT OF YOUR WAY to avoid sexual situations with (many) other women, your wife – well she wont thank you… in fact she will scorn you and resent you.
But when you play the field a bit – even if she only suspects it – she will be turned on and reward you.”
I will leave “playing the field” open to interpretation but as much as I don’t want this to be the case your view captured in said quotations above is the ugly truth which has to be acknowledged as it has had direct ramifications on my marriage.
[CH:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/women-want-you-to-cheat/
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Sentient is an Eskimo who works in Hollyweird – probably somewhere more or less between Pasadena and Thousand Oaks – or even just between Burbank and Beverly Hills.
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“[CH:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/women-want-you-to-cheat/”
Sorry CH you are too late as I was on this article within days of stumbling upon your site. I have it memorized and recommend that all married men be required to read it when they come on board. Was in the middle of my own reset when I came across the manosphere which has helped me materially. #4 has been implemented without actually cheating. Regardless, the article is a classic especially the part about challenging any multiple credentialed psychotherapists.
My only critique is that your site is not taking advantage of the tremendous opportunity for fixing marriages given your insight into the behavior of women.
So some day I will give a solid field report but let me end with this. The transformation in my marriage has been nothing short of a miracle and should be used an an example of what can happen if some of the truths which your site pushes are implemented.
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CO – LOL… wrong on all counts. Take your meds man…
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Which is more moral being true to your nature or denying your nature?
I’m not sure moral is the word that should be in that sentence.
And I smell male hamster burning at the wheel… smells like… rationalization.
Of course, if the poster is actually Aleister Crowley, well… nevermind.
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“I’m not sure moral is the word that should be in that sentence.
And I smell male hamster burning at the wheel… smells like… rationalization.
Of course, if the poster is actually Aleister Crowley, well… nevermind.”
Truth
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“smells like… rationalization.”
Apocalypse Now?
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Droll Greg – the Crowley reference… Made me chuckle. seriously was funny.
Of course i chuckle thinking about all the blue pill dudes driving home from their big box churches today who are going to wank to barely legal porn tonight after their good women tell them they “AREN’T IN THE MOOD”… LOL.
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thinking about all the blue pill dudes driving home from their big box churches today who are going to wank
You fairy.
/jes’ playin’, bro
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Hang on. This post contradicts “America the Beastly” with about 80% precision.
Matt
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You can trace all this back to Whitman.
“Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes.”
He was certainly no titan as so many esteem him. Believe it.
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Whitman was a faggot. Hence his degenerate worship of contradiction.
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Emerson wanted him killed.
True story
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King, please explain Emerson: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”
Are you going to call him a faggot too? Reduce much?
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Key word: “foolish.” Now, reprocess.
Emerson’s point was to not allow a fetish for consistency become the standard of judgment; one will miss nuance and the opportunity for agreement. Or it is more along Fitzgerald’s idea of intellectual fitness in his famous statement, “The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.”
In any event, they were both degenerate in their own ways. Whitman more directly, Emerson as a fey Rousseauean without the Genevan’s balls.
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CH doesn’t present two opposing ideas because he is against “the hobgoblin.” He does it because he is confused and/or evolving. The identity that made his name worships vice in the specific, while his recent kick is to promote virtue generally. Between those irreconcilable poles he disavows any responsibility for the consequences of his personal philosophy’s application across the culture.
Nonetheless, I remain warm to both of you because “Hypocrisy is the tribute virtue pays to vice.” Just like youthful idealists learn as they grow up, you will have to abandon all of the one or all of the other eventually, if only to avoid becoming that ugliest of creatures: an aged laughingstock gnarled by decades of internal dissension.
Matt
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Further, are we so far down the slope of relativistic anomie that we now must defend the idea of consistency itself?
Nonetheless, I remain warm to both of you because “Hypocrisy is the tribute virtue pays to vice.” Just like youthful idealists learn as they grow up, you will have to abandon all of the one or all of the other eventually, if only to avoid becoming that ugliest of creatures: an aged laughingstock gnarled by decades of internal dissension.
Matt
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The identity that made CH’s name worships vice in the specific, while his recent kick is to promote virtue generally. He holds these irreconcilable ideas together by disavowing any responsibility for the consequences of his personal philosophy’s application across the culture.
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CH doesn’t present two opposing ideas because he is against “the hobgoblin.” He does it because he is confused and/or evolving.
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King Soopers, you’re a flaming pussy, in the utmost sense of the phrase. I can read the bitch in you.
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CH doesn’t present two opposing ideas because he is against “the hobgoblin.” He does it because he is confused and/or evolving.
Ah, Matt King/King A/King/whatever trolling again. Game is evil and CH is a “metrosexual” and bad for basing his posts on scientific reality instead of “gospel”. And what was the rest, our problem is “Epicurean”, not, say, the fact that the enemies of White society control the media. Because Matt worships those enemies and their anti-White state Israel. (The bibble says you must!) That shitty little country, as the French ambassador so aptly called it.
So CH is “confused” says the intellectual midget with an African-level IQ. Matt, if only you ever had something to contribute. But you don’t. It’s clear you don’t have much of a social life. Funny how you choose to spend so much time trolling here. CH must really be getting to you.
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Emerson wanted him killed.
As did I… but I was only in eighth grade at the time and can’t be held liable.
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King, please explain Emerson: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”
Pretty much the easiest thing in the world to deconstruct, just by noticing the salient word foolish. Your flaccid lances aren’t even straws anymore.
Are you going to call him a faggot too?
No, but we’ll continue to call YOU one.
You fairy.
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Lawrence on Whitman:
“This awful Whitman. This post-mortem poet. This poet with the private soul leaking out of him all the time. All his privacy leaking out in a sort of dribble, oozing into the universe.”
http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/08/whitman/
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And you are 100% a Jesuit lunatic.
Avaunt, thou fairy…thou enuch jelly, thou!
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He babbles about religion because that’s all he has. Same as all the Black hustlers are “reverends” – it’s the one title that is easy to obtain, you can get it easily in any number of ways. It is clear from Matt’s writings that he gets pissed off hearing about younger people having a social life and success where he has failed, so he tries to win in the morality game instead.
Amusingly, people like him talk and act in ways that are decidedly “un-Christian”. Aren’t they supposed to “turn the other cheek”? LOL But they always have excuses for ignoring that rule. Jewsus would be disappointed.
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Right on.
Since he’s so clearly opposed to “Game” and everything related to it, one wonders why he spends so much time here.
Interestingly, he’s a self-admitted virgin and has zero experience with women. He’s never tried any of the “Game” tactics he deplores…and yet, he professes, with a certainty that is laughable, that “Game” doesn’t work.
He is, truly, a religious nut.
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Even mine enemies are appropriating mein schticks.
A compliment from a friend is a compliment… but from a foe, that’s honour, baby!
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If one didn’t believe that game concepts work, there would be no reason to dissuade the use of it in cases like this.
This married man is being greedy. He has a woman, but he is trying to get more women, taking them from men who don’t have any. If you had the sense, you’d see this and organize a beta revolt. Every man cannot become an alpha. But every man could have a wife if other men weren’t out there poaching them.
What is needed is a trickle down marriage system. Alphas must stop stealing from their beta brothers and marry. Every man that marries reduces the options of every other woman. As her options decline, she must grab who is left or be left out altogether. This can only work in a top down fashion.
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Guys! I’m trying to function here, holding in mind an admiration of most of Arbiter’s posts and the vast majority of King’s.
It’s cogdissapalooza, I tell ya!
All seriousness aside, we’ve been over this dozens of times… if you don’t agree with King and want to be disagreeable about the man himself, at least be honest as men and not petulant little South Park dweebs who can’t acknowledge his obvious intelligence and vast store of cultural reference.
Anyone who calls him “stupid” is ipso facto placing his own credibility under severe question.
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I think it would be interesting, educational and informative for Matt King to describe, in detail, the last time he had kino with a female.
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Gentlemen don’t kiss and tell…
But I bet if Matt described for you his amorous adventures, you be knocking at his door, standing backwards and hunched forward.
You fairy.
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Amorous adventures?
Hell, I’d just like to hear about the last time he initiated physical contact with a woman…
…not counting grade school, of course.
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You wear the wedding band when you don’t want to be bothered by chicks… but maybe you’ll make an exception if this chick is exceptional. Now, jump through this hoop, Miss…
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CH should spin us a yarn about the goings on of the onlooking white knight buddy’s frustrated inner monologue…
“He just spun her around! What a jerk! …and she’s giggling?! She must be feeling too afraid to tell him off…yes means yes….bed of….roses….candlelight dinners….ask….bzzzt…permission….before kissing….misogyny…pffft”
*smoke pours from his ears*
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This goes way beyond women, homito.
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It’s bad enough when her fugly femc*nt friend acts as the Cock Block, but when its your very own White Knight buddy doing the Cock Blocking…
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Great story, brah. Yes, remove the ring. It’s so obvious. Also, be aware of the line between kino and sexual assault. Alphas rarely get accused of the latter.
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i think the white knight buddy is the only accuser here, and he couldn’t be more unaware of reality. he called “I put my arm on her bare shoulder” assault
speaking of, you’d think for all the clamoring for affirmative consent sexuality that there’d be a popular song or harlequin romance about it
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like the white knight guy, you’d think at some point he’d notice pinterest and instagram being devoid of any sentiment about a guy asking to touch them, instead it’s ‘what kind of man’ or worse
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isn’t that the truth.
women want men to initiate and show interest. it’s drives them insane when they don’t. in fact, most girls will give up and move on to the next guy very quickly if a man she’s attracted to isn’t giving her the attention she craves.
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I notice how white knights ie orbiters always surround hot girls…but are there more for social proof (aren’t I hot???) than for any sort of value.
It took me a while to discern whether there was any banging going on. But you can tell right away if the girl is being very public about their interaction=beta. If she’s more circumspect, shy, coy…she’s interested.
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Sometimes women will initiate. I had an amusing experience a couple of years ago. One of the young women who works in the same office was complaining about one of our firm’s clients, a creepy old Persian man. Apparently he had rubbed up against her in an inappropriate manner. To demonstrate, she grabbed my hand and put it on her left breast. I thought,
WTF?! I laughed and said something like, “What a bastard!” I regret to this day I did not bang. It would have been easy, too, as she let it slip in our conversations a couple of times that her current boyfriend was inadequate in the sex department. Chicks.
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Figure out how to turn that “sometimes” into “most of the time” and you can skip half of this pooa voodoo.
“Bustamove” and the volume principle (approach moar until one isn’t a complete disaster) are shilled by Lovemasters(TM) to make flirt-rookies feel like they’re doing something productive. In the meantime they make it a habit to fritter away leverage.
If women aren’t approaching you or sending obvious (or subtle) signals, there is something wrong with you. Work on that part of your “game.” Be without desire, be excellent, be gone.
Matt
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Yep, I am telling you when women come at you with aggressive moves it often places the guy in the proverbial deer in the headlights. Been there.
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A3 – qualification of woman to man. Like that video about a female troll offering sex, if it’s too good to be true. Due diligence is required, especially at work. I wouldn’t give a chick anything other than platonic vanilla if I liked my job. If your job is worth keeping, there is plenty of pussy away from work. The instinctive trigger of sympathetic system is for a sound evolutionary reason.
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Yup. It made me laugh.
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Yep, I am telling you when women come at you with aggressive moves it often places the guy in the proverbial deer in the headlights. Been there.
Lots of people here probably have. I started to get some attention from girls after I lost weight and began dressing better, but I didn’t know what to do with it because I didn’t have the courage or the skill to move the interaction forward.
Consequently, that’s how I know MK is wrong when he says “you can skip half of this pooa voodoo.”
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The thing about the ring: you need it.
The fling requires the girl’s knowing cooperation to work around your limited logistics and it’s more graceful to simply wear the ring rather than awkwardly cram it into a conversation.
Now, you can get her hooked hard sans ring and then have a goofy confession moment, and maybe by then it’s too hard emotionally for her to back out…did that once successfully early on. But it looks try-hard, desperate, and works against the come-and-get-me congruence you probably want for your own sanity.
And, of course, the ring wins early on by preselection and disqualification and saves you time by filtering out hopeless cases like the bartender reasonably early.
Just accept a few losses here and there. You still get the practice and the ego-trip of knowing she was yours in a different universe.
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+1 Wisdom as I see it. Women must not be the prize. Pussy is overpriced as it is.
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“why not just remove your ring? It’s not like that additional deception atop the other deception of giving life to your extramarital licentiousness will be the one to break your moral bank.”
LOL
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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learn to not touch them and save money then go live like a king
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im out tomorrow woohoo gonna try to find a place with no whites or negros
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Going back to your girl in SE Asia?
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maybe we need the negros though what is someone like price actually was running shit think about it
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naa going on a trip with the girlfriend
can i go back to wife i guess she would let me kill her prob thoughts
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girlfriend tells me to kill her if she acts up jesus what am i the killing savior
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least i came up with new ideas ever had people who had woman that it was ok to kill them with their permission
thats some cutting edge shit
member when people told me american woman wouldnt feed me at the table
i got an american bitch who looks hot that will let me kill her just cause i feel like it
i own her soul her life and dreams and whatever else she got
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course she actually killed me lol
funny shit he he he
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“someone like price actually was running shit think about it”
Texas
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the dude was for child support from men to woman
so it was like wow what mens rights are ya gonna fight for then if not that one
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even most of the men want men to pay
i dont want to be around any of the sniveling bitches or be associated with being american bitch man lol rather be dead than listen to one more dude tell me he pays child support to some bitch or some bitch who pays it to a dude
i dont care who is paying it
it is retarded
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at radio shack yesterday dude says he pays child support its like shit out the bible man of finding one good woman in a town or something
cept its finding someone without a child support bill
and what exactly are these kids gonna grow up and do
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pa you may be the only one other than me lol
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I think tattoos look horrible on a girl with otherwise beautiful skin, but that doesn’t stop me from using them as an amidst guaranteed point of entry(arms only, obvious chemistry). if she allowed a relative stranger to poke her with needles there for hours, she’s primed for it
if I see a cute girl with a tat on her arm i hold out my hand and say “ooh can i see your tattoo?” and hold her arm while i “admire” it, making sure to point out some minor flaws in the artist’s work
while i’m holding her forearm i’m also gently massaging her, but I keep her distracted with dialogue so as not to draw attention to it. but her body notices it
i’ve yet to have a girl say no when i’ve done this
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“Kim, do you like the Magic Wand?
Magic Wand?
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“Magic Wand?”
Wow, your poor husband.
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Are you referring to the clitoral vibrator or is this a poorly executed reference to his dick?
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Can I ask you a question Kim?
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Red Pill attention whore. Husband likely Low T. Move along sweetie, you’re adding naught.
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Wow, you’re so brave calling me an attention whore while hiding behind your anonymity. How about you come out from behind your mama’s skirt and say that, big guy. I don’t hide my identity.
And Low T? The idea that my husband is Low T is laughable.
Nice attempt at trying to distract from my original comment. I still don’t have any problem giving Sentient my husband’s contact information should his wife wise up.
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Another ‘anonymity = less credibiliy’ shaming-language spambot. Nevermind that men would face far more severe penalties from using their real name, than a woman would.
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That buck must have been running real fast, to come crashing through the wall like that.
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Wonder if hubby has a nickname like all those ambulance chasers: “Big Dog”, “Poosy Protection”, “Bull Dyke” or whatever!
You know our civilization is in serious trouble when the legal beagles start using their putative spouses to drum up business in the “Comment” section of CH!
(P.S. Who stores frying pans next to dusty, flea-ridden taxidermied deer? And who, in gawd’s name has a two-point whitetail buck mounted? That’s like mounting a rat’s head!! Plenty of those puppies running around……)
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Red Pill attention whore, husband likely low T… don’t feed the troll.
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I smell blood.
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Kim, I would suggest that you not write using your real name. Especially since it is not only your name.
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A new low in the annals of legal advertising: Your SO trolling the comment section of a manosphere site. Gawd! Lawyers will try anything these days to drum up business!
Kim, what’s your hubby’s professional nickname? Grizzly Barr? Bull Dog? Da Judge?
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Better call Saul!
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Tough broad. She bagged that six point buck by throwing a frying pan at it ..
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Maybe she nagged it to death.
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If you think she’s a “no married men” type of girl, then just lie and say you’re going through a trial separation but you’re still in the habit of wearing the ring. You get the best of all worlds: pre-selection, a bad boy persona because you’re on the prowl behind your wife’s back, but a hint of that secretly good heart that makes a girl believe she’ll be the one to win you over for good.
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“I put my arm on her bare shoulder. she is laughing.. we stroll off. He later says ‘man you assaulted that girl’.”
And that’s what’s bellowed at men these days from kindergarten to retirement by the likes of Lena the Hutt. No wonder they’re confused.
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yea its working and they are joyous just make sure ya go out with a bang
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big sign i dont want to live in the crap you made blow your head off in front of white house
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then they win but you win more you dont have to live around the freaks anymore
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That is true victory.
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I would most CERTAINLY not hang out with a guy like that ever again.
But I might be one of those “Sigmas” or whatever, where the social pyramid doesn’t mean shit to me, but I’m on top of it
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I’m going to write a Harlequin romance about a Harlequin baby!
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You fuckin faggots need to get to the point with your stories.
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ok.
I hate ni66ers
I hate flies
I hate ni66ers and flies.
The End
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Is your handle a Cormac McCarthy reference, perchance? Blood Meridian…hell of a read, with a bevy of bad-ass anti-heroes.
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Use the wedding ring to give her plausible deniability. Insist you’re not going to cheat on your wife as you escalate. Now you’ve given her a challenge instead of a barrier.
[CH: nice.]
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Noted shartiste…
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What’s the best way to deal with hot chicks aggressively checking you out when you’re out with your gf? I’ve been getting a lot of attention recently. (Or maybe I’m just noticing it more b/c I’m looking to trade her in, haha). I don’t know if it’s because I’ve been lifting heavy, my height, the blond beard, or what. But they’re very obvious about it. Their heads literally turn to look when I walk by. My gf used to get really pissed about it. A few weeks ago she almost got into a fight with another girl. But the last few times when she’s noticed them checking me out, she just seems depressed about it. It’s pretty sad. I like her enough that it sort of bothers me. Any thoughts?
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Facepalm gf, eyebang the shnat out of new hottie immeds.
Or, put gf over your knee and spank her as you eyelazor new hottie.
Field-tested, I swear.
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Why does she get depressed over that, when she’s the one who has you? Or maybe she considers it disrespectful to her that they do it when you are obviously with her, like she wouldn’t matter.
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“Why does she get depressed over that, when she’s the one who has you?”
They start to feel like it is a lost cause and only a matter of time until the competition beats her.
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^ yes
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Finally… Something Kim can weigh in on…
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Real Armageddon:
Right on track.
http://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/people-analytics-through-super-charged-id-badges/?social_token=82c176497016a75c8b1e16e7bb64abc0&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sm-direct
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Well shit. I guess it was only a matter of time. I mean, they did pass the law and needed arrests to not look stupid. Oh wait. . .
http://rt.com/usa/263473-nyc-subway-manspreading-arrests/
I feel like making a visit to NYC. This needs the old PIcard facepalm photo!
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ahh not just some either
;;;;;;;;;;;;;According to reports, the NYPD has allegedly issued more than 1,400 summons for manspreading this year. While police officers are working hard to contain this ‘very serious’ matter, real crime in the city is on the rise. Reports in March said that the homicide rate in NYC spiked 20 percent in the first two months of 2015. ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
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Damn, I missed that part. Hell, crimes are starting to pick up even in Central Park. Wonder if the women feel safe!
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touching woman sooner makes me remember the little class they gave us in bosnia in the army before we went home
about taking it slow and your wives and such have not had you there and have been running things since you have been gone so you have to take it slow and not have sex right away and shit wtf
dam i made fun of that class so hard he he he
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NICE!
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Jody never took it slow.
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Only those who’ve been to Basic Training know who Jody (that bastard) is.
In Korea, they showed us an explicit video of venereal diseased genitals at orientation.
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They were still showing that video in the early seventies… leastwise, at Ft. Dix.
Muh dik, indeed.
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Heh, that’s where I went to Basic.
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I think everyone pretty much did… although there were rumors of a lucky few going to somewhere in California at the time… never substantiated.
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always a good memory my girlfriend flew down to get on my dick when we were bussed out for 4 days of r&r to budapest
if a woman loves you she will find a way is true
i think i may have been the only one with a wife or girlfriend there though pretty much everyone else partook of the hos
kind of another point where i realized how diferent i really was
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“No married guys” chicks – smfh man – what a sh!t test / ASD
Dont take it rational , translate to womanese / hamsterese
Its never rational. Just like when girl wants it she says she doesnt have BF (even when she does) and on the contrary if you dont impress she makes up BF anytime or gladly brings him up.
M19- Never take a woman’s word; a woman’s actions are the best interpreters of her thought
M84 – respect the momentum
M105 – when there is incentive, there are lies
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M19- Never take a woman’s word; a woman’s actions are the best interpreters of her thought
M84 – respect the momentum
M105 – when there is incentive, there are lies
Mario, where do you get this from?
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Pickup 101’s stuff on this is pretty good.
Part of introing the Kino can start with talking with your hands.
Get into gesturing more. Not as far as an Italian practicing Wing Chun in public, mind-you, but more.
That way, when you start out at the forearm, elbow, nudge, side-hug, etc. it flows more naturally.
MM and Lance Mason were both pretty good on this.
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Sentient, I must admit I’m curious:
I need to get some better game on these no married guys girls… More preparation, because 50% of the time they don’t care or ask, 25% of the time it’s a straight up turn on and that 25% of the time where they are interested but won’t budge…
So there are women who are turned on by married men? Do they say that out loud, and what reason do they give?
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Most definitely… They love the idea that they are beating another woman and that you are so overcome by passion that you have to have them… My game is mostly ONS stuff so that all plays into it as well.
They will say things like “I bet your wife is pretty” and stuff like that… Ask how many kids you have…. I always tell them the truth “yes she is beautiful” “great woman” etc. And never talk her down. This revs them up even more and then they say something like “so why are you talking with me then” and you can drop something like “you’ve never met anyone like me” or “I see what I want and I go for it”…
Which is good stuff when you are out at night and vibe is going and good Kino…. It’s the other times like this example when you aren’t focused as much and get caught out and stumble… This was daytime. Seems to be more of a daytime issue come to think of it.
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Sentient – when I bang girls from sugar daddy sites I always get asked if I’m married. But the thing is it’s almost always AFTER the bang, and asked in such a matter of fact way like they don’t care
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“By four o’clock, I’ve discounted suicide in favor of killing everyone else in the entire world instead.”
― Warren Ellis, Transmetropolitan, Vol. 3: Year of the Bastard
”””””””
Alpha?
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100,000,000 gammas cry “SIGMA!!!”
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“My wife? She’s bi…”
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Like it!
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To continue with the subject of popular music, in the midst of the past decade’s autotune doldrums, there is an emergent new style with young artists that I like to call Hipster/Folk fusion. It has alt-Country elements. The music, including videos, is very strongly implicitly White. The aesthetic is 100% European. The character of the music is melodious, contemplative, nostalgic, very Heartland/Nordic. One quality it lacks is anger. Political anger a la Springsteen, chaotic anger a la Grunge. It would be interesting to see if that element creep sin as the style evolves. Here are some of the bands:
– The Head and the Heart: good songs include the upbeat “Shake” and the contemplative “Down in the Valley.”
– First Aid Kit: a northern Swedish duo of two sisters. I understand American-style Country is very popular in northern Sweden. “Emmylou” is great. Virtuoso vocals.
– Jason Isbell: less Nordic, more Redneck. True to his roots, his music includes the sharper edge of sublimated anger. The great song is “Outfit”, which he recorded with his old band Drive-by Truckers. Outstanding lyrics, including an F.U. to John Lennon’s anti-Christian blasphemy.
– Father John Misty (aka Jay Tillman): unlike the more wholesome bands above, he has a nihilistic, almost SJW’ish vibe. I include him because he has what I consider the best pure voice of his generation. If you can look past his “fuck you dad” posturing, the great songs to check out are “Learning to Love the War” (an existential contemplation that uses environmentalism as a launching point) and the unsettling, hypnotic “I Love You Honeybear” (which brilliantly uses the current global market crash as metaphor for the fleeting nature of love).
I like this new direction, but it leaves me hungry for the anger and rawness of Grunge after several songs. Let’s see if it takes that direction, in line with our interesting, unraveling times.
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I’ll have to check it out. I’m getting into new retro metal bands. Heavier the better.
Pretty much anything with an acoustic guitar [apart from certain v. early Bowie songs] I can’t stand.
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Acoustic guitars: what good is life without Pink Floyd’s “Wish you were here” or Boston’s “Amanda”?
After an hour of hipster/folk, I started jonesing for rawness and anger. The remedy: Pearl Jam’s “Black” live, a HD 1992 vid.
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I like “Black” from their live album, Live on Two Legs. The solo at the end goes on for a spell. Beautiful!
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I never got into Grunge, and I’m Gen X. What dd they offer that metal and punk did not?
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“What dd they offer that metal and punk did not?”
That’s a good question. Those guys in fact thought that they were doing punk and metal. It just happened to be a unique sound.
Grunge guitar is more raw than metal (which requires extreme precision and tends to be formulaic) and more sophisticated than punk.
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I listened to all of them on youtube,
My favorite is First Aid Kit
It is nice to see white girls not trying to act black, no twerking, no vulgarity and not dressed as prostitutes.
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Glad you checked them out, CF. If you like that style, take a look at “The Tuttles and AJ Lee “Hickory Wind” Gram Parson cover” They are a Northern California family band. There is a lot of musicians like that.
From your neck of the woods, I like Mes Aieux, “Degeneracion”. It can be appreciated as THE song for our times. There is an English subtitles vid on YT.
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– Jason Isbell: I’d be remiss if I didn’t call out “Traveling Alone”. It’s a soulful Southern song true to its tradition, a reckoning with his earlier struggles and shame. I may only be imagining this, but the lyrics seem to make a reference to Simon & Garfunkel’s “Boxer,” re. working girls.
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Jason isbell is legit. Manly folk guitar with good down home southern lyrics
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Yes indeed re First Aid Kit and Jason Isbell (working on a couple of his songs right now, in fact, including Traveling Alone.)
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Thank you. Just downloaded all of them sight unseen or ears unheard as it were. Hard to keep up w what’s good.
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All the anger is down south in the real heartland, Germany. Check out Killuminati, Hassgesang, Stahlgewitter, Überzeugungstäter, Sturmwehr, Youth of Tomorrow, Häretiker, Handstreich, Straight Right, RAC n’ Roll Teufel, Kommando Freisler, Gigi & die Braunen Stadtmusikanten.
It isn’t pretty, popular, or well-produced – they all have to hire lawyers to vet their lyrics – but it has balls and is explicitly pro-white.
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I like to put this on, sit back and imagine the Reconquista:
Chorus:
“Der Volksaufstand im Abendland ist längst überfällig, verpisst euch gefälligst. Packt eure Koffer, es ist Zeit zu gehen, wir wollen euch hier nicht mehr sehen. Habt hier nichts verloren, seid nicht hier geboren, was muss noch passieren, damit sie’s kapieren. Ein Volksaufstand im Abendland. Riecht ihr nicht die Glut der Deutschen Wut?”
[The People’s uprising in the West is here at last: kindly fuck off. Pack your bags, it’s time to go, we don’t want to see you here anymore. Nothing here is theirs, they weren’t born here, what has to happen so that they understand this? People’s uprising in the West. Can you smell the fire of German rage?]
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Beautiful.
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Music to slaughter traitors and invaders by.
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“soooooo… Is your wife here?” I laugh and say “Oh you noticed my jewelry” and say “nah she is home” and now she is more coyly saying, “well what would she say about us talking…”
…
Say, “Let’s find out.” Take out your phone, dial your wife, tell her you met a great girl and tell her you’d like to bring her home, then ask the bar wench when she “gets off.” Last time I tried this maneuver for the lolz at a house party, it earned me regular updates regarding the (wife’s coworker) girl about which I was (honestly) teasing my wife in front of her coworkers and friends, again, for the lolz. If you’re gonna go sigma, go all the way.
Never conceal your libido from your wife. That never ends well.
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Friday at Walmart, True story,
Just got back. Saw a 9 with beautiful tits, face and hair walking with her boyfriend an out of shape millennial smoking one of those pipes. By the way some of those millennial’s look ridiculous smoking those pipes. Got in line behind two black/Indian ladies with an out of control screaming 3-4 year old boy. The younger women had a low cut dress on and was bending down and her tits were coming out. It happened a few times and one time she looked at me looking at her.
Earlier today had a 4-5 make a play at me and I kind of laughed. Then at the grocery store had a little smiling gay guy make a play at me which culminated in him saying “I have a sweet mouth”. Still trying to shake that one off. Not sure how I should feel about all this.
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4-5 making a play at you is, generally, a bad sign
Ditto for the super-forward gay come on.
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“4-5 making a play at you is, generally, a bad sign
Ditto for the super-forward gay come on.”
Thus the concern..
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lol… Saturday at Walmart
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“Not sure how I should feel about all this.”
Does your tummy feel funny?
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“I have a sweet mouth”
In what context did he mention this?
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“In what context did he mention this?”
He had shown aggressive ioi on previous visits. I was checking out, he said I like that particular snack. I said yeh, he said “I have a sweet mouth”. Felt a little queasy as I am still trying to work through my homophobia. I did not realize he was the checker until it was too late.
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CH: without a doubt, early and frequent touching of a woman amplifies the intensity of her curiosity and attraction. if you’re getting mixed results, it’s not the increased kino that’s holding you back. it’s some other variable.
Yes, I agree. I’ve noticed what a difference kino makes on dates, for example. The point is, I don’t always know what’s holding me back. More experience will help.
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Friday at Walmart, True story
That store might be the worst place for pickup, ever.
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“That store might be the worst place for pickup, ever.”
Really? I never went there for approaches.
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Really? I never went there for approaches
I don’t go anywhere for approaches; it’s just something I try to do when going through my day. But I notice that some places are terrible, and it seems that only fat girls and Indian people shop at Walmart.
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“seems that only fat girls and Indian people shop at Walmart.”
That sounds politically incorrect.
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“I don’t go anywhere for approaches; it’s just something I try to do when going through my day.”
Right attitude. With that said I can tell you with absolute confidence that the vibe walking into Walmart versus the vibe at a particular coffee house are day and night different. Completely.
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Right attitude. With that said I can tell you with absolute confidence that the vibe walking into Walmart versus the vibe at a particular coffee house are day and night different. Completely.
Of course. Your coffee house doesn’t sell produce, ipods and cigarettes to fat girls and Indian people.
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“Of course. Your coffee house doesn’t sell produce, ipods and cigarettes to fat girls and Indian people.”
There you go again not being politically correct. Sounds like it is time for you to do some sensitivity training.
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There you go again not being politically correct. Sounds like it is time for you to do some sensitivity training.
What? I don’t make the big girls eat the doritos. Still, I’ll preface each post with a trigger warning so as to not offend your sensibilities.
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“What? I don’t make the big girls eat the doritos. Still, I’ll preface each post with a trigger warning so as to not offend your sensibilities.”
Please tell me you know I am being sarcastic?
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Please tell me you know I am being sarcastic?
lol, yes.
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lol, yes.
Alright, I thought you had a sarcastic side and you are good at it.
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lI thought you had a sarcastic side and you are good at it.
I am, but can easily overuse it. I’ve ruined more opportunities than I care to admit with over-the-top sarcasm, especially in text messages.
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“I am, but can easily overuse it. I’ve ruined more opportunities than I care to admit with over-the-top sarcasm, especially in text messages.”
Yep, could see that happening.
On another topic I was thinking back over my approaches and it occurred to me that the successful ones involved touch and stayed successful until I deescalated. Just food for thought.
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On another topic I was thinking back over my approaches and it occurred to me that the successful ones involved touch and stayed successful until I deescalated. Just food for thought.
My results are mixed. I’ve number closed with nothing more than a little bit of banter. Conversely, I’ve been rejected after initiating plenty of kino. I can’t really discern a pattern to my successful approaches, though I’m only a few months in.
There’s a lot of variables at play in any given situation, I’m sure. But I’m hoping with time that I’ll be able to control more of them.
[CH: without a doubt, early and frequent touching of a woman amplifies the intensity of her curiosity and attraction. if you’re getting mixed results, it’s not the increased kino that’s holding you back. it’s some other variable. btw, there are linked studies in the CH archives finding that kino is an effective seduction technique.]
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Kino has to be introduced naturally. I start with eye contact. Then gradually work up. I brush her hair when I get up to go to the washroom if we’re out sitting at a club. Touch her forearm in a conversation. Kiss her on both cheeks when greeting her. Before learning Game I was awkward and waiting for invitations. Now I initiate and calibrate. Usually the first time I introduce kino it’s natural. If I escalate it often produces a sharp response—her eyes widen. At that point you have to maintain your composure and frame.
Sometimes they will ask: “Why are you touching me?” or something—it’s a shit test. I would counter with: “What is it about me touching you that you like?”
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@wala – i find its the naturalness of the action, versus whether it is erogenous or the timing. Just strong familiarity – can be shoulders, waist, hand, arm – doesn’t matter… its the natural fluidity of your movement and congruence with your manner… I say like you’ve already fucked her a 100 times… it’s no big deal then to grab her wrist, or take her hand or put your hands around her waist when you chat… It’s not a big “sexual move”, it’s just commanding and familiar. That seems to be the difference.
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Sentient’s got it.
It has to seem natural and not contrived like you’re checking it off a fucking box (which you are)
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Go to kino points:
Tracing any tattoos – wrist especially because it’s really sensitive and it is a very dominant move, they are disabled. also calves.
Taking hand and “palm reading” or playing with their palm, fingers.
leading by taking elbow or hand or lower back
squeezing waist or hips. Always give the love handle area a little squeeze, because they are sensitive about fat and this puts you in a discerning position.
Moving hair out of face
tugging hair at base of skull, with a little waggle
nuzzling neck/ear. You smell nice is good here as well.
Pulling onto lap
resting hand on thigh while you chat
what are yours?
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“Sentient’s got it.
It has to seem natural and not contrived like you’re checking it off a fucking box (which you are)”
Ironic since walawala is one of the few on this board banging a Harem of women. Just saying.
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@ Sentient
Great techniques. You got most of the ones I use although the tatoo thing is a welcome addition.
I also like:
If they’re wearing earrings, touch and comment on them as an excuse to gently touch her ear lobe. If she rotates her head slightly to allow you a better view this is a good sign because she’s exposing her neck to you, which she won’t do if not interested. (Also bonus points if you have to brush hair out of the way to get to the earrings)
Same goes for necklaces – touch the pendant but really you’re touching her chest. This is very uncommon and comes across as very bold.
Get her to touch your chest. It’s very context dependent but seems effective. One girl commented sarcastically ‘I can tell you go to the gym’ trying to denigrate working out as a hobby. To which I reply ‘yeah I’ve got bigger boobs than you’ – grab her hand and place it flat on one pec.
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@ Sentient
Great techniques. You got most of the ones I use although the tatoo thing is a welcome addition.
I also like:
If they’re wearing earrings, touch and comment on them as an excuse to gently touch her ear lobe. If she rotates her head slightly to allow you a better view this is a good sign because she’s exposing her neck to you, which she won’t do if not interested. (Also bonus points if you have to brush hair out of the way to get to the earrings)
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Same goes for necklaces – touch the pendant but really you’re touching her chest. This is very uncommon and comes across as very bold.
Get her to touch your chest. It’s very context dependent but seems effective. One girl commented sarcastically ‘I can tell you go to the gym’ trying to denigrate working out as a hobby. To which I reply ‘yeah I’ve got bigger boobs than you’ – grab her hand and place it flat on one pec.
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Get her to touch your chest. It’s very context dependent but seems effective. One girl commented sarcastically ‘I can tell you go to the gym’ trying to denigrate working out as a hobby. To which I reply ‘yeah I’ve got bigger boobs than you’ – grab her hand and place it flat on one pec.
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I meant it for you, not Wala
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lol fuck this reply-alignment-system, last post was directed at Putin
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funny, i touch their hair right after i return from the restroom. “don’t worry, i washed em for like ten seconds.”
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@walawala – I do most of Sentient’s list, plus:
-Gently holding and checking out necklaces is great because you can gently caress the tits as you go and see the reaction.
-I usually start with kissing the cheek nearest to me and then escalate to nuzzling neck and then kiss..the really keen ones will start turning their face towards you – to try and kiss the mouth – when you kiss the cheek. I usually tease them by not kissing on the mouth immediately..
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?? why would you post this?
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It’s getting a little weird in here
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“?? why would you post this?”
Just trying to focus on the positive big guy. Do you have a place to go to?
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I would think you would want a little less attention big fella… delete.
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“It’s getting a little weird in here”
Lol, spare me the drama.
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“I would think you would want a little less attention big fella… delete.”
?, once a post goes up it can’t be deleted.
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“delete.”
Is there that option Sentient?
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i got some pussy to pound in 4 hours or so
there may not be all that much kino well prob some while driving home
and there will be the jump and the catch
should i neg her by dropping her he he he
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should i allow her to suck my dick while driving home or should i maintain propriety
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i think really the secret to game is just telling woman to find you other woman
its kind of how i get most of mine
like yesterday chick called me and i got a decent chick
but yea that seems to be the secret knowing bitches who know bitches
or make the good money but work the side job at a resteraunt to be able to be on the inside and again meet bitches who can let you meet more bitches
its like a pyramid or something
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/31/nyregion/three-quarter-housing-a-choice-for-recovering-addicts-or-homelessness.html
guess nytimes did an expose but prob just pissed some reg dude making money of the drug system lol
same shit i been talking about larger scale
a blueprint for making money on the fake recovery side of the business
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well i guess can see why the blacks would leave the citys to come to my area dam but also why used to living 3 to a room
””””””””Mr. Bush, now 65, put his suitcases, including one with a strip of tape that read “Bush Traveling Clothes,” into a shopping cart. He would soon go to a residential treatment program, one he had already been through twice. To qualify, he knew what he had to do: He had to use. “There’s nowhere else for me to go,” he said.””””””””””””””’
yea man just like you can use to get the shit you can sell and if ya can stop using can make an ok income selling the get off drug shit
its just wtf man
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and now two people told me not to go to florida its a drug infested shithole jesus
where can ya go
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Are you black?
Just curious.
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Oh my God
This is hilarious
http://jezebel.com/feminist-students-protest-feminist-prof-for-writing-abo-1707714321
“Kipnis was allowed to bring a ‘support person’ , who was not allowed to speak, to her meeting with the Title IX investigators. A Title IX complaint was then filed against the support person.”
HAHAHAHAHA
You can’t make this shit up!
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It was beautiful! There’s another article I read from roosh’s twitter feed:
http://chronicle.com/article/My-Title-IX-Inquisition/230489/?key=Tj8iIVA8NStOZnEyMTsVbG4EbHA/OB94YHUYOH5xbltWEQ==
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Not revolutionary enough there comrade.
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Weird. Saw 3 Chinese teenagers dressed like that walking around in Newport Beach this afternoon.
Way too many Chinese savages setting here.
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Game hamster from the 1920s…
“Girls like to be called snuggle-puppies,” one school administrator told the reporter. “They grant the boys liberties. Encourage them to take them and if the young chaps do not, they are called ‘sissies’, ‘poor boobs’ or ‘flat tire.’ ”
http://www.npr.org/sections/npr-history-dept/2015/05/26/409126557/when-petting-parties-scandalized-the-nation?
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“I would think you would want a little less attention big fella… delete.”
? Sentient, the only attention it is drawing is from you and johncorvus. Is there something else you are worried about?
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http://www.americanvalues.org/catalog/pdfs/wmm3-30-conclusions.pdf
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““well what would she say about us talking…” I say “that doesn’t concern her now does it” and move to try and set something up for later with her. It becomes clear though that she is a No Married Guys girl”
(facepalm)
If this is your default reply to that shit then it’s not that they’re No Married Guys girls it’s that you’re telling them you’re cheating on your wife (low-value behavior, you promise one thing and do another, you have to hide your sexual desires from your wife instead of being open about them, she doesn’t know if your wife is going to be some crazy jealous bitch that tries to kill her (yes they worry about that these days), her friend got cheated on and cried for days and she doesn’t wanna be a part of that, she may be a unicorn who respects monogamy, etc). Tell them something like “it’s fine, we have an agreement. She knows I play around on my own time.” (high-value behavior, you have a chick who’s married you despite knowing you tap hot waitresses so you must be valuable for her to overlook that, and you are open and up front about your sexual nature and your wife accepts it and you have an honest relationship that the average dude who has to sneak around his promises isn’t alpha enough to have, your relationship is no longer labelled as a monogamous committed promise in her mind so if she’s a unicorn who respects marriage/monogamy her hesitations no longer apply because you’ve redefined your situ as not the type of thing she would normally have reservations about since your situ is “different”) then change the subject fast ideally something that emotionally hits her like qualifying/teasing her “I’m surprised you don’t have a ring yourself. It’s because you meet guys in the bar. Can’t trust guys you meet at the bar you know, we’re trouble…” etc etc
That shit was a done deal. Yes the response you gave CAN work (some girls are turned on by taking another woman’s man bla bla) but it’s low % as fuck compared to something more optimal.
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Yes I could always take the ring off or tell them my wife doesn’t mind but I’m not into straight up lying to them about my status. That’s low value behavior to me. If that means I lose that 25% that it matters to, so be it. Got some good replies from this so thanks group… Think i like the nothing’s gonna happen one the best.
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Sentient
don’t take off the ring…that’s silly…own your shit = alpha…and it’s not that you are telling her that your wife doesn’t mind…that’s low value…she SHOULD mind bc you are high value…you just do it anyway and she accommodates that bc she doesn’t want to lose you…and bc of the whole divorce rape idea, that shoots up your value…
the overall point is that the ‘No Married Guys’ is just a shit test with a bunch of ASD thrown in. you need to diffuse the ASD while handling the shit test…
so, you need to remove the ‘i’m a slut for ‘cheating’ with a married guy’ vibe (her frame) by moving the interaction out of that category and into a different one – the one that YaReally is framing…. your attitude is that your wife doesn’t like it, but she accepts it bc you are YOU…lol…the difference is that you own your actions/desires, as opposed to ‘sneaking’ when the wife isn’t around…
good luck!
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Sentient
nsa filters grabbed another one…
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Mod release?
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response in mod, like always.
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@YaReally would love your insights into my situation that I posted about.
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He is better off writing his own blog
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Just sayin why would you want to dox yourself???
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Hey CH can you delete the OP?
Thx
Seems to be dox issue.
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You’re welcome.
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“You’re welcome.”
Thanks
Hey CH?
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@sentient….
I think it kinda depends on what you look like. And how old you actually are….
But I would just take the ring off. Or put it on a different finger
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[…] A field report from reader Sentient nicely illustrates the importance of a fundamental game concept: kino. From a sporting event… Lots of outside bars in tents etc. Lots of women milling about, lots of drinking. […]
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A couple weekends ago my friends and I met an Asian guy outside a 1 AM bar. He asked my friend for a cigarette, he invited us to meet him at a different 3 AM bar. We went and he offered to buy us all shots. The dude bought 10 shots when there were only 5 of us total. He told us to go find 5 girls to take them with us. Filled with purpose and booze I went off in my search. I opened a few groups with the proposition, some more amiable than others, and then I saw a very sexy girl sitting by herself at a table texting. I go up and offer her the proposition. She had a drink in one hand and was texting on her phone with the other. She said something akin to “I cant leave my friends.” but seemed interested in the idea. Annoyed by her thinking she could text while talking to me I snatched the phone from her hand, turned it upside down in her lap and grabbed her hand that was clasping the drink and held it in mine, looked her in the eye and said “this is talking to me time, not texting time” Her eyes were lit up. Even in the dark bar you could see them sparkle.
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girl I’ve banged a few times: water u doing tonight
me: robbing a bank
girl: oh
me: need a getaway driver, you any good
girl: maybe
me: my place, 10:30, bring a ski mask
girl: (radio silence)
comments? working on my text game, so if I made an egregious error, I’m all ears
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“me: my place, 10:30, bring a ski mask and wear black lace lingerie”
fixed it for u
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