A reader generously offers a glimpse into the mind of a woman stricken with “five minutes of alpha syndrome”.
CH,
Having been a regular reader of your blog for a while now, I couldn’t quite join-the-dots in the general ‘5-Minutes-Of-Alpha-Beats-5-Years-Of-Beta’ (or variations thereof)
I couldn’t quite see it working in the ‘Real World’.
Until last night.
I contacted a woman from a well-known online-dating site that requires a strong rod and large net.
The woman: 44, 5’8″, Mom-of-one, blonde, pretty, maybe a solid ‘7’ with her war-paint on, separated from nice guy husband of 12 years, recently split from relationship with BF of 7 months.
The Boyfriend: 45, 5’7″, fire-fighter…really average-looking but with serious ‘issues’.I was initially pulled-in by her looks and IQ (she’s a smart woman, a buyer, by trade) and a comment she made struck me: “I’m scared I’ll never find the level of intensity I had with my Ex”
Me: “What, with your husband?”
Her: “No! My Bf”
(husband, apparently was a tall, handsome guy, 6’3″, but had two things not going for him: ‘Nice Guy’ and liked to crush a 6-pack each night)Anyway, we met.
For a drink, at 20:00pm, a bar not far from where either of us live.
We left at 22:45pm, after each having a single drink each, mainly because of her life-story of the last ‘X’ months with Fire-fighter Bf.
I could wax-lyrical about it, but it’s best set out in list form:
* upon first meeting, she said “the sort of man I wouldn’t look twice at – he’s 5’7″ for God’s sake”
* didn’t even date him for at least 3 months after 1st meeting, and he pestered me daily for a date
* finally met and things took-off (in her words, “sexually, emotionally and mentally…it was intense, daily”)Then things start to slide:
* he breaks her left-cheekbone with a straight-right
* deletes names of male co-workers and friends from her iPhone
* secretly hacks into her FB account and sends ‘Don’t contact me again’ messages to male contacts
* constantly, calls, queries and questions her about where she is and who’s she’s out with
* rips her off for 86,000
* finally after 7 months she dumps him and throws him out.Cue:
* paint poured over her Audi A3
* hate mail sent daily
* threatening phonecalls made multiple times daily
* bogus online-dating-agency profiles created and setup to monitor her on website
* fellow friends recruited to keep tabs on her
* drives by her home multiple times a day, checking up on herFinally, the police are involved.
They urge her to press charges, a) for the physical assault and b) threatening behavioursWhat does she do?
Protects the fuck out him, claims she doesn’t want him to lose his job or get into any trouble.And the clincher? She spent the whole 2.45 hr date talking about him (liked to call him ‘Twat-Face’, and this whole sorry episode to me, her supposed date.
No matter what I did, no matter how blasé or cool I was about it….she just looked like she’d rather be anywhere else but on a date with me….
Why?
Because I wasn’t him.Thoughts, opinions, rants?
Yeah…
Chicks dig jerks. And Ross Douthat handwaved.
Less glibly, yet another reason to avoid a long-term relationship with a woman who has amassed an above-average number of sexual partners in her life is that the odds increase that she has dated, fucked, and fallen deeply in love with an asshole. And though she was able to extricate herself from his intoxicating grip to one day go on a half-hearted date with you, his memory continues to scour her dreamscape. What man who isn’t a desperate loser needs the extra headache?
The girl with a lot of past lovers is never alone. You aren’t sitting across from her at a bar; you’re sitting across from her and all the cockas that rocked her.
My advice:
Date virgins.
Ok, that’s a tall order nowadays.
Your next best options, should an execrable date of this nature ever occur again, are to fight asshole with asshole.
Flirt with another woman in front of her.
Text while she’s talking about her ex.
Keep changing the subject. But make it obvious that’s what you’re doing. Humor helps. “You ever wonder what it’s like to piss in a moving elevator?”
Lay down the man law, in so many words. “If you want a shoulder to cry on about your ex, there’s a gay guy I know who’s much better at this. Don’t worry, he won’t judge.”
Get up and leave without warning. This is your last card, and it’s an Ace. Don’t be afraid to play it. You shouldn’t be spending three minutes, let alone three hours, of your valuable time listening to a woman bitch about her ex, anyhow. That’s beta male scarcity mentality.
Whatever you do, don’t sound jealous or butthurt. This is a game, treat it like one.
The advantage will be yours because a clear and present asshole trumps an invisible asshole. And given her history, you may be the new asshole who helps her get over her last asshole.
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Yeah, don’t for one minute put up with that shit. Move on.
and not that anyone should be alone at any age but 44, even without the red flags, she’s going to have had a lot for yo to contend with. not that you can’t, but is it worth it.
another in this vein, this lady doesn’t want to ever have a love like her last love again:
http://thoughtcatalog.com/kelsey-hau/2014/10/why-i-hope-my-ex-was-a-once-in-a-lifetime-kind-of-love/
Yep, the key mistake the guy made was listening to this girl in the first place. For well over two hours! My policy has long been to not allow discussion of ex-boyfriends on first dates. I’m not rude about it, but I’m not particularly subtle either. In a playful way, I just cut it off and say that we’re not doing that. “That’s against the rules.” Almost all girls are fine with this, and the date moves on with the understanding that it’s about us, not some jerkoff from her past.
If that doesn’t work, and quick, just get out of there. I don’t recall ever having to that, but I’d like to believe that I would. I freely admit that this would be extremely hard to do with those chicks that are truly hot, but a firm yet gentle hand solves most problems. And if it doesn’t, I’d far rather play a video game or something than listen to that sort of nonsense.
In fact, I just came up my next response when a girl says something that she ought not to, or that bores me to tears: “I’ve heard that World of Warcraft has a new expansion coming out. What do you think about that?”
@Trainspotter. Yes if a girl brings up her ex bf. I listen for around 2-3 minutes in silence, say nothing and say…”You got the better deal now…”
If she persists I just change the subject. If they’re constantly talking about their ex…big problem. If they bring it up…and I listen, then change subject.
I find saying nothing…usually is enough to signify i’m not engaged.
If it’s really annoying: “I don’t need to hear this…”
Getting jealous of a woman’s male friends/coworkers?
Pouring paint over her car after a breakup?
Driving by her home several times a day after a breakup?
This guy was an asshole, but he doesn’t sound like an alpha to me
Yeah, agree. There’s something that always seems to be glaringly absent from this site, and it’s the fact that the beta personality is going to be more prone to temper tantrums, jealousy, passive aggressive acts, etc. Beta’s are insecure, easily rattled and more likely to “snap.” They are huge liabilities in any context.
Alphas aren’t jerks. They don’t need to be. Betas trying to run alpha game typically are. Think about that.
Alphas can get away with some beta behavior if they are assholes.
I think the point is that she saw him as an alpha and therefore couldn’t stop thinking about him.
And that’s what it really comes down to the social science of perception, not actual science. I contend that most women are no better at selecting men with better genes (the supposed alphas) than a coin flip. Many of them just go after the outliers and hope they got it right.
Girls like alphas more than betas…that’s a given. But if we are Alphas or aspire to be Alphas we shouldn’t waste time and energy on a basket case like this. To put up with that amount of shit is scarcity mentality. Only way I would entertain the idea of interacting with her was if the story started with , “Once upon a time a terrible plague killed everyone one on the planet except you and a neurotic, slightly above average looking woman…”
His narcissism is alpha to her. Obviously he doens’t give a fuck about jail, chivalry, or what anyone thinks. He’s going to do what he’s going to do. When she was with him he did this too…
Dollars&Sense
Sounds like a psychopath which comes to us in every stripe and sex.
The Fireman did Alpha things to her… so I guess he’s situationally Alpha?
It does not matter if her Hamster forced her to have “intensity” with fireboy to justify breaking with Nice Guy… the result is. the. same. She’s now damaged goods and will always evaluate any new peniis against the Fireman’s hose.
One thing to realize that when the hamster belches about some “big ex” that flipped her lid… a reasonable amount of the story is always coming from an addled mind. Therefore about half is really true.
True story: I once worked with a gal who was an alpha widow head case. She ended up dating a younger guy who happened to be a friend of mine. One day they breakup… boo hoo… she is beside herself with anguish and saying bad things about my friend. He’s just a little boy… So immature etc etc. About a week later Widow gets a flat tire in the parking lot… Being the White Knight I was I go out there change her tire. All I heard was “I just bet my ex BF did this” “he hates me”, “I think he’s stalking me”… After the tire is changed (no thanks from her btw). I say, “Brett is 500 miles away I took him to the Airport yesterday”.
Now if you think that bit of factual data would ruin a good blame… you would be wrong.
That afternoon after telling every female about her ex and the flat tire. She was prompted to get security involved and with a few batted eyelashes the parking lot security golf cart was moved right by Widow’s car for 6 months. So she could feel safe.
Guy had all the traits of Borderline Personality Disorder….or maybe…just maybe she does and is making all this up when in reality it was HER who did all those things….
You guys keep assigning civilized definitions to terms. Women translate SMV of the male into female terms of animalism. Analects 13:3 is thus proven to be relevant again.
There can be no doubt why her ex husband “crushed a six pack” every night. This bitch is fucked up.
I’ve had GFs who went batshit cause i ouowldn’t hit them, one stabbed me and broke my nose because I would punch her in the face and strangle her. Stay away from these crazy whores. (caveat, best sex I ever had with the one who stabbed me)
*cause i wouldn’t hit them, one stabbed me and broke my nose because I would NOT punch her*
Why did she stab me and all that? Cause I banged most of her friends, lol.
You go after the crazy, you get the crazy.
+1. I thought to myself, why only one beer in nearly three hours. I’d of needed several more if I was going to punish myself with this “date”. Why bother with a single mom trying to climb back over the wall at 44? This was pitiful.
Her ex was mate-guarding something fierce.
A true alpha would have disregarded, but I suppose corporeal abuse was more than enough to offset that oversight.
mate guarding is what betas do to women that they arent having sex with. dude laid down the law to her. my guess is the social pressure her work, friends, and family compelled her to call it off. but in reality with him she felt the most alive she has in her whole life. every second just rich with excitement so thick you could cut it with a knife. like the ringing in the ears one gets just before the onset of a massive headache. I would put money on that she is still sleeping with him. The wrongness of the situation adds to the adrenaline high and the tingles.
women are biologically programmed to love their offspring, not another man, but all humans can serve a master. Stop trying to get them to love you as their children, be their master. Learn from douches like this guy, and Obama and everyone else you dislike. Dont let your feelings get in the way of a learning opportunity.
Uh oh. Some contradictions in the CH philosophy appearing. Technically the boyfriend would have been the “mate guarding asshole” and would not be digged by women at all. Of course the caveat explanation could be that she is so over the hill that the boyfriend reminded her of her younger self who could get those mate guarding buffoons or maybe she never had one of those types of assholes before and really felt it was a huge compliment at her age. Either way, I am surprised her ex husband at 6’3 and the drinker wasn’t who she was dwelling on. Women are very complicated but the core message they clearly send is that assholes are wonderful.
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Violent jerk mate-guarding game. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.
This is pure prole behavior. These people are in their 40s? Fuck this gay earth.
More and more I’m thinking that “Fuck this gay earth,” is the modern version of “Carthago delenda est.”
Was the psycho dude an alpha? Not in the conventional sense of checking off every item on the Commandments of Poon. He’d probably not do well at pickup and it took him a while to get the broad to go out with him. Sometimes sheer persistence is what it takes to get your foot in the door, and then it’s up to Abuse Game to keep the LTR lively.
Assuming the woman’s story is true and not a melodramatic fantasy told to a date, then it looks like the guy mainlined straight to her emotional cortex by the sheer directness of his abusiveness. Chicks dig jerks, and lots of jerks are fuckups. She missed his alpha presence, the flaws of which (like neediness and possessiveness) are more than outweighed by the intensity of his dominance.
Yeah, you nailed it.
First meeting between them was non-descript. Took him 3 months to get a date and he either used the ‘Abuse Game’ or prolly nailed it in bed (she admitted it was pretty intense sexually, too)
I’ve no doubt it was true, given that, pre-date, she had told me the basics of the situation over the telephone (massive red-light which I should have seen), so it tallied with what she said on the night.
Oh yeah, I forgot to add, the local police were IMPLORING her to press charges and get a CCTV device fitted for future security.
Nah, she wasn’t having any of either.
She’ll probably end up dead, sounds like a fucked up bitch to me. I don’t know how the hell you put up with two and a half hours of that shit.
@Galactus67 Thanks for sharing. It was instructional.
If you saw this woman as a bunch of problems but when out with her just for the experience, that’s cool. I don’t do it much, but if there is a girl who I meet online who is so so but has some interesting story to tell…then yah I’ll go beta provider just to ensure I DONT spark attraction and hear her out. If she’s hot in anyway…I don’t listen.
G67: A CCW permit is your friend. If this little punk ever corners you in a dark alley [possibly with a small posse of his fascist friends from the gubmint firehouse], then you need to be able to take care of business.
PS: What did the dudes in the PD think about one of their homies in the FD behaving so badly? Sounds like they might have already had a history with the little thug.
And morally speaking, once a bitch refers to another man’s cock in a conversation with you – no matter how obliquely – she has already attempted to spiritually cuckold you. I would never reward that sort of insullt with so much as the sight of my cock, much less the feeling of the glorious perfection of it between her legs.
Finally, if “67” means you were born in 1967, and now are about 47 yo in 2014, then NO WAY IN HELL should you be dropping your seed in a skanky 44 yo Cluster B whore with a barren womb. If you’ve been out of the dating scene for a while, then lose some weight, pump some iron, get some cardio, and slay the poon in its early 30s which still has a fertile womb and can give you some progeny.
In a world of betas, a right hook to the cheekbone is like a glass of water in the desert to some women.
Yeah. The fireman doesn’t have tight game but he ain’t afraid to knock a girl to the ground and give her a firestorm of searing drama for her hamster to nibble on. His mate-guarding and jealousy comes packed in with an overwhelming dose of titillating confrontation and abuse. The fact that it emanates from a place of insecurity doesn’t occur to a woman when she’s on the receiving end of a falcon punch after he empties out her bank account.
Lots of men like this running around the bottom half of the economic and mental bell curves. Species lower alpha, subspecies abusive thug. See Stanley Kowalski.
“In a world of betas, a right hook to the cheekbone is like a glass of water in the desert to some women.”
Great line. And in a world with increasing legislation like yes means yes laws all the more dangerous and risk taking a man has to be which appeals to women even more. He is so bad ass he is willing to risk jail for me! Good luck with that playas. You might end be taking a nice big black cocka from one of GBFM’s lovers in San Quentin. Will it be worth it?
Ray Rice game?
Ha, ha, ha…
Her larger tale informs us that she brought the punch upon herself.
It’s all a part of her masochism.
I guess you could call it “masochism”. But I feel like it’s The Darkness in their hearts eating away at their souls until they are completely dead inside. I watch some aging pornstars now who used to be totally into it when they were first bursting onto the scene, but now they look so bored that they don’t even bother to fake an interest – you almost get the feeling that the only thing which would titillate them anymore would be an outright snuff film, but that even snuff films would start to get ho-hum after a while. As though Evil has an insatiable appetite – an infinite capacity – for even more Evil. Until it all ends in Death.
Bottom Line: You can either use your God-given private parts for the making, birthing, nurturing, and raising of progeny, or else your God-given private parts can waste away all the very best years of their fertility whilst being forced to engage in utterly purposeless acts of Nihilism. Your choice. You decide.
As though Evil has an insatiable appetite – an infinite capacity – for even more Evil. Until it all ends in Death.
No “as though” about it… you’ve nailed the very heart and essence of Evil.
Even the devil (among others) knows he’s (they’re) done… ‘though repentance was always even within his (their) grasp…
But Evil can’t help itself, it simply has to follow it’s self-centered route to destruction… it’s only joy to take as many others… indeed, the entire world, if possible… down with it.
Off topic, I see Barack Obama just appointed a new ebola commiczar called Ronald Klain. How did I know even before looking him up that he wasn’t White?
Socialists like to talk about non-Whites being “underrepresented” in a business or bureaucracy when they aren’t present in the same amount as their proportion of the population. But Whites, the vast majority of Americans, are only a minority in Barack’s cabinet appointments. The majority have been Blacks, Asians, Latinos, and of course Jews who have been vastly overrepresented. Just like they were in the Bush and Clinton cabinets.
And yet not a word about this underrepresentation from the media owners. Why?
Because “anti-racism” is just a codeword for anti-White. The saying is true.
You obviously have anger issues. White-house-garden-grown Michelle-Ma-Bell certified vegetarian knish? Free with your purchase of Obamacare.
Since we’re on the subject of over representation; Check this out.
http://www.whale.to/c/jews_in_german_army.html
Same thing when they want to “make (X) look like the community”, where X is any grouping of people or even depiction of one. As long as the community has no white males in it.
multiple cdc studies done on gun control-congress put a stop to it-congress lifted ban on cdc gun control in 2012. ron klain was cos for biden-biden led obamas gun control panel. INS is expiditing visas from west africans afflicted with ebola for transport to the USA for treatment in our hospitals. using obamacare/medicaid standards to treat ebola will bankrupt hospitals. Obama claims hospitals are too big to fail, and obama nationalizes them, thus single payer…
hospitals and clinics arent where ebola should be treated, quarantine areas should be setup outside town. temperature and travel/exposure is metric to quarantine someone for 28 days, upon determination person gets lawyer, 3 meals and a cot and wifi for a month, no big deal. need positive pressure hazmat suits with supplied air hose, using buddy system. need dedicated cleaning area, using chlorine, 2 ppl scrub down 2 nurses/treatment personnel final wash with chlorine then enter unsuiting area. under hazmat suit should be goggles, ear plugs/radio muffs, respirator, tyvek membrane suit 3 gloves, ect. multiple redundancies. also, shaving(anywhere) abrades the skin, adding another entry point into the body. hands and skin needs to check for sores/cuts/scrapes and superglued or other method of covering. this strain of ebola seems to be most communicable form other then Reston. Though Reston had about the same mortality rate as the flu, most healthy people would survive Reston.
She deserves him.
Why do I think superceding asshole game would work just like that? I’d like for the mystery reader to try it and report back. Seems like an easy slam dunk with the combination on her lock seemingly figured out. Not sure I’d want the guy to get jealous though. I always ask chicks with man baggage how attached and prone to violence the ex or not ex is. More and more, women are not even worth the trouble for casual sex. It amazes me how much beta providers will endure before revolt. History is clear.
you may be the new asshole who helps her get over her last asshole.
While that might be true, that’s never my aim. She can get over her issues herself. I’m not the Slut Whisperer.
lol at Slut Whisperer
Want to gain insight into how women react? Own a cat.
you mean the cat acts like a woman?
or owning one makes you act like a woman?
@CH
“Less glibly, yet another reason to avoid a long-term relationship with a woman who has amassed an above-average number of sexual partners in her life is that the odds increase that she has dated, fucked, and fallen deeply in love with an asshole. And though she was able to extricate herself from his intoxicating grip to one day go on a half-hearted date with you, his memory continues to scour her dreamscape. What man who isn’t a desperate loser needs the extra headache?”
Why are you talking so mean about Amy CH? 🙂
Seriously THIS is why I always get riled at chicks posting on the Manosphere about “this is how you get/date/seduce a girl”. ALL gals posting to Manoshpere blogs are Alpha Widows… ALL of them want to show you their inner hamster racing in circles and call it logic. (OK OK all girls in the states posting are Alpha Widows… girls from the Mediterranean area are cool)
What they themselves do not realize is that THEY CAN’T explain HOW or WHY it happened. They can only explain WHAT… and the WHAT is always though a haze of overexcited hamster fur.
I tell men who date or restarting dating… DATE young REAL young and hopefully you can find one that has not been tainted by an Alpha piss marking his territory.
I always ask this when inevitably a guy dates an alpha widow.
“WHY on earth do you want to deal with that when there are new 18-22 year olds on the market EVERY DANG DAY???”
The funniest thing about this post is that I believe she is intelligent.
Here’s an idea on how to flip the abuse loving wench, take her hand, squeeze it hard, and say, “I hear your pain, but we really need to talk about something else.” Keep squeezing harder. If she doesn’t pull her hand away, but acknowledges your decree. Smack da bitch and fuck her up da ass…
Work for me, mon! Oh wait, y’all meant *giving* it up the ass, not taking it. Never you mind then, homie!
you shoulda just left when she started bla-blaing about her ex. when a chick is into you the other guys don’t matter. it’s that simple.
if she’s truly attracted, it is just you and her. but yeah, if she’s just like ‘I dated a guy and we did this…or this one time I dated a guy and blah blah…’ on your first date, then make up an excuse to leave and never cotact her agai
A reminder of how it hard it can be to internalize sound advice, even for rational, linear-thinking men. Mr. Regular Reader should have known CH’s maxims about shutting off any woman’s blubbering about the problems she brought upon herself.
And yet he didn’t. He couldn’t. Oh, I’m sure he was telling himself the account was fascinating, as riveting as a car wreck. And therein lies the road to beta, or maybe the circular road in beta province with no exit ramp to alpha.
Not only due to you have to steel yourself against womanly beauty, you have to harden your heart to other people’s self-inflicted problems. If you can’t get a word in edgewise, just walk away.
At some point, the gal became his research project.
He listened to her rant for the same reason young women love horror films: to be scared out of his wits.
ch,
you forgot one thing in the article:
is he really into her?
granted, this is a game, but he also needs to be into her.
whoever the other guy was, he showed a non-wimp genuine desire for her.
the commenter needs to consider whether he really wants her, or whether
it´s just an ego game that he wants to win.
whatever you want to say about this guy, he at least had passion for her.
asshole + passion = win
asshole + disinterest = loss
better put:
asshole + passion > asshole + disinterest
If she starts talking about an ex, I’ll throw in a remark or two about my own annoying exes, and she instantly switches to asking about them. Heh.
lozozlzozlozlozl… that’s the trick… if there’s anything that spikes the hamster’s interest more than its own drama, it’s that of competing hamsters.
I do have a question… about this:
* didn’t even date him for at least 3 months after 1st meeting, and he pestered me daily for a date
I’d think that would be some severe anti-Game. OTOH, perhaps her being in her 40s made her more likely to go along with it.
he pestered me daily for a date
Translations: he asked her twice.
^ Exactly: don’t put stock in what women say, pay attention what they do.
Translations: he asked her twice.
Heh. Should’ve guessed…
another poss translation: made several crude remarks every time he saw me.
The true Alpha manipulates a woman through mindfucking techniques that are non-violent. DHV tactics, use of language (verbal/body), and attitude. And then, when that time comes, he fucks her into orgasmic oblivion, getting her brain to slather itself in oxytocin.
The prole Alpha, in contrast, manipulates a woman through violent mindfucking technques – abuse, mate guarding intimidation tactics, and the like. But he also plows her in a dominant fashion. The same Oxytocin bath occurs.
That’s why the woman describe above can’t get her mind off of him. Her “handsome” hubby probably neither manipulated her nor truly fucked her.
Both types take advantage of woman’s preternatural inclination TO be manipulated.
Not all women will go for the prole type, but some invariably do. If you want to pry her from that guy’s clutches, you have to mind fuck her AND bang her so hard she gets another, and different, oxytocin bath.
Otherwise, not worth it.
(Hope original guy won’t take this as an insult)
If I reach the point where 44 year old women are the best that I can get a date with I can’t see myself doing it.
Haven’t been to a hooker, and I imagine there’s a lot missing from that experience compared to an attractive woman that wants you. But honestly how much pleasure/satisfaction/excitement/pride/validation/fun can possibly be derived from the company/desire/”conquest” of a woman that old anyway?
How old are you ?
31
Well when you hit 55 you might consider it ;-(
A man has to eat.
Pros are not all that bad. If you are realistic with your expectations it can be a nice experience.
And you by no means have to limit yourself to it. In some foreign countries it can be economical. You just don’t want to quit the hunt. Otherwise you might become soft. Use it for the nights things just go awry or you are not in the mood for sarging.
44- might was well be a guy. Maybe if I was 65. That’s just me though.
” 44- might was well be a guy. Maybe if I was 65. That’s just me though. ”
Dude I just spit out my coffee. You’d rather do a guy instead of a 44 year old woman ?? WTF man ??
I’d do a guy. Well long as he wuz white, m’kay?
How many times have you read some female missive about wanting a new love “without the drama” — or some such construction?
That’s a ‘tell’ that you’ve got a real drama addict in prospect — and that she’s still in ‘recovery’ mode.
If you plunge in ==> be a fulsome jerk. She’ll bed you for it.
The female brain is wired for the psychic indulgence of being a follower.
Jerks immediately put a ‘psychic BDSM’ clamp on their followers.
As the original post indicates, the gal HAD to have a masochistic streak running down her face.
And she’s STILL bonded to him, hence the monolog.
That the jerk was dominant… is beyond dispute.
BTW, she amplified his sadistic impulses; hence the financial rape.
Just as telling: her frivorce.
She implicitly expects her lover to be entertaining, she has an absorptive personality… something of a (TV soap) induced psy-chick pandemic.
OT
Stupid Cunt Edition Part 1
(Pay attention to what she does at the end)
https://ca.screen.yahoo.com/worst-driving-videos/female-czech-drivers-woeful-reverse-123810253.html
First date? I will allow absolutely no discussion of exes, mine or hers. If the topic is brought up I’ll simply say ” I don’t want to talk about our exes tonight.”
No apology or explanation is given. If she persists, she is conducting major frontal shit testing and will be reminded, firmly but cordially, that I don’t care to discuss it. If she persists, one of two things will happen. If she is molten lava hot and I’m willing to endure a little irritation so I can get her in the sack, I’ll reiterate my policy one more time with the warning that if this continues to be her conversational gambit then the date will have to be over. If she isn’t particularly hot then I’ll excuse myself to go to the bathroom and then bounce.
I’ve done this twice, and I’ve also put two girls out of my car when they failed to heed my warning that I don’t tolerate sassy, loudmouth bitches.
By the way, both girls I kicked out of my car fucked me within a week.
“didn’t even date him for at least 3 months after 1st meeting, and he pestered me daily for a date”
Her vagina was picking up on the asshole vibes from him already. A beta who did this would be in jail.
in addition to all the OP examples of responses to a date/new girl bringing up an ex (which show you as alpha) is to run boy friend destroyer on her stories about him (which will lower his residual value to her)…doesn’t matter if they are together or not, it will make him seem pathetic by the time she stops talking about him…lol…and then she will have a big hole to fill…lol…and you’re right there…lol…
‘wow, he sounds really needy…’ [change subject]
‘wow, he must have really loved you…’ [change subject]
‘wow, you must have been the best thing that every happened to him…’ [change subject]
‘wow, he obviously had never experienced a woman like you before and he couldn’t handle it…’ [change subject]
you get the idea…lol…your attitude should be:
prize = you > her > her ex-bf…
eventually, if you keep it up (changing the subject), she’ll stop bringing up the ex-bf bc she doesn’t want to keep tarnishing her memory of him. when she drops it and stops bringing it up, then YOU go back to the subject…lol…’say, tell me another story about your ex-bf…did he ever get over living in his mom’s basement?…”…lol…’oh, he didn’t live in his mom’s basement? well, i guess i just figured that with all the other stuff you were telling me about him…’…lol…
good luck!
1) your a beta tampon sponge.
2) never talk about exes
3) woman make up all kinds of shot about exes to make themselves look better and make him look worse. It’s there way of saying “he wasn’t good enough for me” even though usually she wasn’t good enoug for him.
I think you that was my ex-g/f 😉
2:25 …Really! WTF! You desperate or what.
Twenty minutes of that BS and I would be out of there or call her a taxi, which I have done before. Or pull a T-Bird John and say you have to get something out of your car and just leave.
And another thing, no woman I have ever known would put up with an asshole for five minutes, let a lone develop a relationship. I must know a better quality of women, if you all think this is common.
@walawala
It was only during the drive back home that I thought “this is something for CH to dissect”
I have to point out, it wasn’t ALL one-way traffic – I managed to shut the bitch up for a few 5-10 periods when I told her some of my own horror-stories, but of course, at this stage, the date is toast anyway.
@ Zombie Shane
LOL – I’m 6’3″, work-out 4x a week – I’m in good shape, decent job, nice car, etc. – I tend not to Beta-supplicate at all…but this story was fascinating.
Guess if she’s still hooked on this palooka, it’s all moot.
But yeah, point taken on the age-thing.
@passionman
Ex-husband was a drinker so prolly wasn’t in any condition to manipulate/fuck.
Plus he’s a ‘Nice Guy’ – upon seeing her smashed cheekbone and guessing who the culprit was, “Did he do that? I’ll fucking kill him!”
Her: “It’s not worth it. It’s my fault so just leave it”
@WaterUnderTheFridge
No offense taken!
Point is, at my age, 47, just because you can attract/date women in their 30s (and for the record, my ex-fiance was 32, and the following 2 women I dated were 28 and 36), this doesn’t mean you CAN get those all the time.
Plus, as CW has pointed out quite correctly, Online Dating sites (and that particular one which you’ve all heard of!), really ain’t the best way to score.
Reason I stayed to hear this loon out…I had fuck-all better to do. Plus, I wanted to see if my ‘Rope-A-Dope’ tactic would work and she’d punch herself out, Foreman-in-Zaire-’74 style.
Not a chance.
She merely took a breather, and started talking about who her toxic-friends (all in their 40s, too) were fucking.
THAT was also just as much as a Red-Flag.
@Galactucus I have a story to share. I’ve started to see this hot 23 year old I’ve written about on several posts. I brought her out to a party to help set up. The party was put on by a female friend of mine who I’ve gamed but wouldn’t bang for a variety of reasons but mostly because we are good friends.
But wow…the “friend” was all about “Are you hitting on her?” “better use a condom”…”go now and get laid”… I just smiled. My only response was “Behave”… and “She helped you set up and clean up, that’s all you need to know.”
What’s interesting is suddenly the “Friend” couldn’t stop talking about getting banged…and wanted to hang out the next day.
What’s even more interesting is this “friend” has hit on other friends of mine so that’s another reason I wouldn’t make a move.
But knowing I was with another girl somehow sparked her hamster. The fact I wouldn’t take bait seemed to intrigue her even more.
On the other hand…the 23 year old had previously asked me if I was banging my “friend”…girls smell other girls’ interest faster than guys do.
Good story…but that’s young chicks only, right?
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on October 18, 2014 at 7:28 pmThwack
I’d do a guy. Well long as he wuz white, m’kay?
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Just got the lab results; “Thwack” is Greg Eliot.
Its kinda sad to see a former champ reduced to sock puppetry; oh how the mighty have fallen,
thwack, you’re an asshole…
First you tried this tack with some guy called Director, and when that fell flat you start in with someone new.
And this, after I caught YOU telling on yourself, sock-puppet wise, with emma watson.
The untrustworthy project their flaws onto others.
(((REALLY shakin’ mah haid now)))
An average heuristics program is usually good enough to bust most sock puppets. You have to “help it” a little bit; but it takes far less time than if you tried to do it your self (or with a bunch of people working independently)
Things Eliot tried:
1. Attacking me directly: Result; he gets his ass kicked
2. Attacking me with a costume on: Result: he gets his ass kicked
3. Attacking me with a thwack costume on: he gets his ass kicked
LOL
Lets see what he comes up with next?
More bullshit from our resident generator of such…
I notice you’re trying the usual squid ink deflection with voodoo pseudo-scientific babble… seeing so-called heuristic patterns where even the most dim of spergs can tell there are no stylistic or phraseology patterns which come close to resembling mine.
And coupled with your (again, as usual) braggadocio in re victories not won.
The simple test remains, emma/thwack: let the board moderator check IPs for geographical proximity… case closed.
The standing wager of a month’s pay remains on the table.
Now come up with a new method of Sunstein cogdissery… this one is played… soooooooo played.