Framing is a powerful Game skill, while Agree & Amplify is a powerful Game tactic. One may argue they’re nearly synonymous, but A&A is better understood as a specific practical application of the overarching concept of Framing.
(For CH newbs, “framing” is another way to say “controlling the narrative”. When you frame a conversation, you are funneling your listeners and readers into a particular channel of thought that is conducive to your communicative goals. “Agree&Amplify” is the rhetorical feint that subverts an antagonist’s conversational momentum and helps prevent you from entrapment in a defensive posture.)
I bring this up in relation to a recent post in which I asked you readers how CH should respond to interview requests from media whores. The overwhelming majority of readers voted for the option of continuing to ignore the Gaystream Media solicitors in perpetuity.
For the record, the Chateau was leaning toward the “Ignore on Rewind” policy prescription for dealing with inquisitive GSM whores before the commenters cemented the decision to certify the Ignore option.
But one reader wondered why CH doesn’t just “agree & amplify” solicitous media whores? A good question. A&A’ing media drones might sound like this:
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GSM drone: Can we dox interview you?
CH: Only if you don’t use the term “White supremacist.”
GSM drone: But we have to stay true to our readers’ expectations!
CH: No doubt, but on condition that if you use the word “racist” or the term “White supremacist”, you must substitute with “super duper megaracist” and “SO FUCKING White supremacist that we at CH believe the 70% of the universe that is dark matter should be turned into White matter.”
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That’s an amusing A&A, and many on the fence would chuckle knowingly at the sexy impertinence on display, and maybe even a few converts to the realtalk cause would accrue, but the predominant consequence would be shitlib readers pressing their hands tighter against their ears and shrieking “racist!” even louder.
Agree&Amplify is an awesome tool of persuasion in smaller social settings and one-on-one with brightening girls, but its limitations are more evident when scaled up to the national gaystream media hatrix. To answer the reader’s question, the power of the mass media agitprop machine to frame a dialogue — and to isolate, freeze, and polarize a dissident interviewee — is too great a force to successfully thwart with a single Game tactic executed in a single instance.
Framing trumps Agree&Amplify. This is especially obvious when the framing is done by a multifaceted, multi-noded, supranational conglomerate with thousands upon thousands of like-minded Narrative enforcers focusing their immense repository of rhetorical tricks on designated targets for social exile.
When you are gaming a girl, she’s not annotating the proceedings, (as is the wont of NPR apparatchiks whenever they do a story on Trump). Your mischievous A&A isn’t being preemptively framed and predigested for her, so there’s no risk she’ll automatically default to tuning out what you say. There’s just the spontaneity of the seduction, her words, your words, and the feelings that come from that.
But the media creates feelings before you have a chance to seduce their audience to sympathize with you. The power of the media to annotate and editorialize days and weeks before introducing you to the public is the power to instantly frame any interaction to favor the media’s worldview and goals. It’s not hard to guess how a CH-GSM entente would play out:
GSM shitlib: Be our interview Valentine?
CH: Sure.
*CH games the media into a leaving a love puddle on the seat.*
*GSM plays the coquette, promises fairness, releases their interview one week later*
Perhaps deriving from a deep-seated insecurity in a world rapidly leaving his kind behind, our interview subject CH attempted to deflate the enormity of the callous and unprecedentedly vile racist, misogynist, racist, and sexist ideas espoused at the Heartiste blog with cutesy requests to our reporter to refer to him as “God’s Chosen Shitlord”. We warn our readers to be aware of this sophistry and understand the psychological motivations behind it.
Bezos Post-Op: So, “God’s Chosen Shitlord”, how would you answer the increasing chorus of critics who say you are spreading a message of hate?….
Taking down the lying scum media is a job CH can’t do alone. A million CHs can though and, as Trump intuitively understands, America won’t be great again until the Gaystream Media is first destroyed and rebuilt in the image of Heritage America.
First time commenter Matt writes,
CH
I have read your blog for over four years. I have never posted before. I have read almost every article, and probably fifty percent of comments.Over last few months I have seen a huge spike in number of new commentors. I just finished you article about media calling you. Please do not reply to MSM, they will fuck you. I know its difficult, we are all vain to some degree.
It’s my only preen-ness.
You are a fantastic wordsmith, and for me personally, you have completely changed my view of women. I am 45 and have been married with children for a long time(over 15 years), for me game has saved my soul. Not that I see other women, but that I keep my wife in line (without being a ngger and beating her).
Do not talk to media. Do not let them figure out who you are. Many of these new commentors are suspect. (many are probably newbs too). I imagine you are gaining a lot of traction, several friends and family now read you as well. I don’t think you understand how important this place is, or you are.
Dont let them ruin it. We don’t need them anymore.
You are the media now.
Don’t talk to the media dude, don’t let them wreck this place.
The decision is made. Fuck the media. They’re a rotten corpse with delusions of breath left in their dusty lungs. They want to know about this outpost of bracing truth and beauty? They can come here and find out for themselves.
The Media is among the things that should never be trusted such as politicians, cops, lawyers, and women.
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I trust Brian Williams. He’s the last remaining Bastion of Truth.
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You misspelled “Bastard”…haha, but I got what you were getting at.
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Show some respect for this war hero! Lol
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And Bill Clinton….
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You don’t have to trust me; but if you hired me, I got you a “not guilty” or a reduced sentence or I recovered money for you or saved you from having to pay full freight. I don’t care if you like me or not. Just pay me. If you think you can do better, roll the dice. The saying goes that the man who represents himself has a fool for a lawyer.
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A little late to the party, Schlomo.
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The fact that I, like many others, may well have need of dirtbag like you is a big part of what makes me despise your disgusting “profession”. You better hope the atheists are right, because eternity is a fucking long time to be burning.
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Sorry Greg. Your (((detector))) is off. I’m as Catholic as a bear shitting in the woods. I just got pissed at the fuckwit who dismisses all lawyers as scum; so I commented on an older thread.
Most people don’t care much for lawyers, until they need one. The regulars here shouldn’t be so quick to dismiss me. I often work for those who are kindred spirits with the denizens of the Chateau. Last I’m going to say on the issue. Pax.
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Hurt your feelings did we sweetie.
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[…] Framing Vs Agree & Amplify: Can Solicitous Media Whores Be Gamed? […]
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Oh well, so much for ana1…
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Captain Autist
N E pool stories?
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Manjaw’s gonna manjaw.
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Never reply back to the media, as long as there is a reason to do so. Also, remember to have a couple of salary years of f*** you money.
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Good choice.
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Mooch… we hardly knew ya…
Peace
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I made a mistake in trusting in a reporter. It won’t happen again.
— Anthony Scaramucci (@Scaramucci) July 28, 2017
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Total fucking loser. A piece of garbage.
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“I made a mistake in trusting in a reporter. It won’t happen again.”
That’s what violating Vox’s “Don’t Talk To The Media” rule looks like.
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Is it possible that Trump has used Scaramucci to get rid of Preibus and is now getting rid of him after his work is done? 4D chess and all that….
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@irishsavant
no
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Might have been brought into expose the leaker (Preibus? Spicer?)
In the BBC interview last week he said something like ‘if the President asked me to leave tomorrow so be it’
At the time I thought it was an odd thing to say.
[CH: the leaks have slowed to a trickle lately. hmmmmm.]
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That was my thinking as well. Someone on twatter brought up the good analogy that he’s like the bullpen closer. Only has a few pitches in him, but gets those vital guys out.
I’m sure Trump will always be there for him.
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Not only that sessions has woken up and said today there will be criminal leak investigations…
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/26/sessions-to-announce-investigations-into-intelligence-leaks-source.html
and I hope Bannon is waking up from all his wokeness and starts doing something other than huwhyteboarding.
Good work Mooch. [He is still part of the administration, went back to the import export bank role]…
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Hmmm. 4D chess? He did get Rinced Penis out.
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I digress but Liverpool soccer team had mass leakers and back stabbing back in 1998. Their then coach Gerard Houllier a Frenchman signed this old fat French player Jean Michel Ferri. People could not understand it and he hardly played a game. Turns out he was a locker room spy for the management and the team got rid of a few established players.
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I think Trump really wanted Mooch and like shim. But Mooch got caught by the lugenpresse running his mouth and that is something that the Pence wing couldn’t get comfortable with. and Kelly too… so no harm no foul, next man up for Trump regarding this role. and some messages sent in the mean time.
When you have experience running something important you learn that running it is more important than optics and feelz… you don’t let a bad situation go on for the sake of protocol (Spicer, Preibus) and when circumstances change suddenly you have to adapt and move forward (Mooch)…
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On the other hand, Kelly would be a fool to take the Chief of Staff job and not have all the staff reporting directly to him, and this didn’t happen.
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Sentient, Scott Adams was just talking about that very thing today on twatter.
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Priebus & Spicer were Trump’s way of signalling to the RNC & the Chamber of Commerce that he was willing to try to work with them.
But with the collapse of the healthscare negotiations, and the utter inability of Cuck Ryan and B!tch McConnell to do anything to alleviate the pain & suffering of ordinary Heritage Amerikkkunz, Trump is ready to take off the gloves now.
Also, if Sessions moves laterally to DHS, then his replacement [Lyin’ Ted?] will be free to f!re everyone at the DOJ, to include Dogsh!t Mueller.
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Most people on the Trump Train are losing their collective shit over Mooch’s firing. Just like they lost their shit the numerous times Trump did something they thought was wrong–in their minds.
Reactionary people always going with their feels instead of seeing things from a bigger vantage point. Shit’s getting old.
MAGA’s just getting started in earnest.
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Partisans of the Trumpening like me have the tendency to interpret any seeming bad move or event as another instance of Trump’s 8D chess. The lügenpresse spins this as “chaos” (and any tough talk as “dark”).
But the thing to remember is that Trump instinctively uses chaos, as he has for forty years, to gain advantage and attention without quite knowing the outcome. Because he doesn’t have to know the specific outcome. He doesn’t have to be a strategic genius to toss hand grenades into the garden party: he discerns the previously “impossible” opportunities that become achievable only after a shakeup. Most important, he is at ease amid the uproar.
Bombshells are neither devastating setbacks nor are brilliant, farsighted tactics. Scott Adams sucks his own dick about the “MasturPersuader” thesis way too much. They are more like concussive blasts deliberately (and sometimes unintentionally) placed among the press, the cucks, and the derp state to keep their equilibrium in permanent imbalance. Even when the bombs aren’t bursting in air, they remain in a state of shellshock, unable to form a counterattack or defense, never knowing when the next round of artillery will come.
The political ingenuity of Trump is reflected in his understanding of this effect and in his subsequent campaign to troll every last swamp creature into terminal PTSD. Any single maneuver must be understood against the backdrop of his killer instinct. And only when we see the final results can we make some kind of assessment of his acumen.
Right now he’s the undefeated champion. He has to sustain at least one loss before we can even begin the conversation about rumors of his weakness (which, by the way, is why he never allows any action of his to be spun as a loss). Most “setbacks” right now are attributable to his learning on the fly — the rookie QB who sharpens his skills without compromising the team record, which remains unblemished. He’s Dak Prescott, not Jared Goff. (Gay NFL reference)
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Firing General Flynn on day 2 (i.e., letting the Jews decide who gets to be his national security adviser 2 days after swearing in, after we just won the election) was a big loss.
Watching Ivanka convert to orthodox Judaism and raise his grandchildren as filthy Jews was another big loss.
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Ah, King, I do like the QB reference. He’s like Manning in his rookie year–throwing interceptions but not taking sacks. Learning to read the defense and take them apart.
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“The decision is made. Fuck the media.”
Bravo.
“You are the media now.”
You are something very special for America.
The media is limitless malice, limitless lies.
Like it scratch and gnaw at your door.
Don’t let it in.
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Just as an fyi but I post here and on facebook and youtube , read DS and occasionally post on (((Breitbart))). All under different names and I’m not particularly complimentary toward the tribe but never mention them on (((Breitbart))). I tried posting today on Breitbart..first time in months and just a normal comment nothing too outrageous and I now need pre-approval from (((Breitbart))). Odd.
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https://www.standwithus.com/campaigns/israelmatters/
Huge Jewish Awareness push going on… including pending legislation.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-piece-of-pro-israel-legislation-is-a-serious-threat-to-free-speech/2017/07/24/0752d408-7093-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.5f2794e1f48e
“The Israel Anti-Boycott Act, legislation introduced in the Senate by Benjamin L. Cardin (D-Md.) and in the House by Peter J. Roskam (R-Ill.), would make it a crime to support or even furnish information about a boycott directed at Israel or its businesses called by the United Nations, the European Union or any other “international governmental organization.” Violations would be punishable by civil and criminal penalties of up to $1 million and 20 years in prison. “
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http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/23/5-facts-about-how-americans-view-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/
This is a big issue for their demo in the US.
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It amazes me how free speech and free association are so inimical to Judaism.
It’s like Jews require secrecy to fare well.
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A must read. On topic.
http://www.thisblogisdangerous.com/journalists-are-the-enemy-and-must-be-stopped/
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“…Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for fuckoffs and misfits — a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy piss-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage.” Hunter S Thompson
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Well done, sir.
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Honestly, I don’t understand the whole doxing concern for you at this point, CH. I mean, hasn’t that horse left the barn a long time ago? A Google search brings up a “RationalWiki” entry that doxes you in the initial sentence as the second item of the search list – and a search using Bing lists the same article as the third item. Certainly any journalist, however lazy, will stumble on the same thing, no?
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I mean, to clarify, I’m certainly not recommending any contact with the media. Just attempting to ascertain the level of risk (I’m an engineer, I can’t help myself).
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CH is like the Dread Pirate Roberts
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CH reminds me of the Merovingian from The Matrix Reloaded. Only good thing about that film.
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Nice reference! I’ve had the same thoughts. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if CH was more than one man. A shitlord team. I mean that as a compliment. That one man could provide so much content at this standard for this long, it almost defies belief. If it is one man, he’s the Joe DiMaggio of the dissident poon right. I was tempted to say Lou Gehrig, but I’m afraid I’ll jinx him and he’ll come down with some horrible disease.
Also, in the early days, he would mention the Roissy handle. Haven’t read that here in a few years.
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“CH reminds me of the Merovingian from The Matrix Reloaded. Only good thing about that film.”
You mean the Merovingian’s w!fe?
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Perhaps that doxxing is actually incorrect, and they hung the handle on the wrong guy?
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1. you grossly over-estimate their investigative capabilities
2. you just told them where to look
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I agree that declining interviews with the MSM was the right call. Keep spreading your message in your own way. As in the case of Steve Sailer I think that there are a lot of “closet” CH readers.
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You made the right decision, CH. Thank you.
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You are profiled among other luminaries in the recently published “Kill All Normies, Online Culture Wars From 4Chan and Tumblr to Trump and the Alt-Right” by Angela Nagle.
She takes an even-handed approach to online political/cultural activities of the past few years and fairly blames the left for their busybody overreach.
In the more explicitly alt-right crossover sites, as the anti-feminist sphere and the race-oriented sphere started to meet, Chateau Heartiste is an MRA and PUA blog run by … (aka ‘Roissy in DC’), which mixes evolutionary psychology, anti-feminism and white advocacy. In the blog he argues that women’s economic freedom is leading to civilizational collapse. He believes white civilization is being destroyed by miscegenation, immigration and low white female birth rates owing to feminism. This decline can only be undone, he thinks, by deporting minorities and restoring patriarchy.
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Brigitte Zypries the German minister said that US Sanctions against Russia are against international law and has called for German retaliation against the US.
She is 63 single and childless.
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I don’t agree with the German government on much of anything these days, but the only reason for these sanctions is our corrupt Congress sticking a finger in Trump’s eye, spurred on by a deep, emotional hatred for Russia among our entire corrupt establishment. (After all, that’s why we have so much RussiaCollusion Fake News over here.)
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Interesting… alpha, pickup, and The Donald.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449988/donald-trump-cant-close-deal-failing-salesman
[CH: *cracks knuckles* kevin fatboy williamson is about to receive a high school flashback, courtesy of yours truly.]
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WIKIPEDIA
Born: Amarillo, Texas
Alma mater: University of Texas (B.A. English Literature)
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>> [CH: *cracks knuckles* kevin fatboy williamson is about to receive a high school flashback, courtesy of yours truly.]
Yep… bitter beta on the loose.
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I noted yesterday on Vox that KW essentially quotes CH’s “Alpha Switch” post. He needs a good spanking.
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from sobran to this twat. how pathetic can a rag get
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If CNN calls, say that you have moved to Nigeria! That’s what the Daily Stormer guy did.
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/andrew-anglin-neo-nazi-lawsuit-nigeria/
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“Pick up a bee from kindness, and you will learn the limitations of kindness.”
CH, you have made the right decision and I salute you for it.
-Fred Rotten, retired poaster
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Indeed. This is the appropriate response. Little to gain and much to lose.
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AWESOME!
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Truth is beauty. The words you sing are music to me. Don’t stop. I need you and ´murica needs you.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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And the Frame is…
Jew are anti-white (S)upremacy.
And let the “cries” of “anti-Semitism” rain down like laughing tears of Goy.
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The masses are anti-white (S)upremacy, “white” and colored alike. The {{{default elite}}} also propagates anti-white (S)upremacy with an unrelenting collusion of the mixed masses. It’s symbiotic regression. A perpetuating self-annihilation.
So when a Heartiste faints before the charge of “white (s)upremacist” there shall be a reverberating demoralization suffered by his true believers.
Deep down, your followers demand your (p)erfection. Creep around, and your (l)ogos “signals” desire for (P)erfection. And sleep unsound because objective (S)upremacy is not your obsession.
You are a white (S)upremacist
Jew are anti-white (S)upremacist.
This is the basic metaphysics of our racial-incarnation.
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Dittos to Matt, ‘cept I’d form a harem if ever I found a worthy addition who equaled my wife.
Fat chance of that, but a man can dream.
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Good on ya Heartiste for settling on the only rational choice. Nothing but silence for the MSM.
Why filter your shivs through some sh*tlib journo and her editors? They will grind you up for bloody chum to feed the narrative sharks.
Commenter Matt is right.
Heartiste is the media now.
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You are the media!!!
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Cf. Milo Yiannopolis. Ask anyone who’s ever interviewed him. His strategy is to create a frame big enough to play with the big media boys (which is why they had to resort to kryptonite- pedo) to take him down
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“The decision is made. Fuck the media. They’re a rotten corpse with delusions of breath left in their dusty lungs. They want to know about this outpost of bracing truth and beauty? They can come here and find out for themselves.”
Amen brother, amen!
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I would like to beat to death, with rebar, the entire jeww press.
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The MSM is a communist “active-measures” program over eighty years in the making, hatched June 19, 1934.
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