All women will hit The Wall someday (for the vast majority of women that day is no later than their 50th birthday.) Some women will hit it sooner, some later. Some women will approach The Wall cautiously, slowing down a bit as it nears; others will hit the gas and zoom straight at it when it looms, going out in a sudden blaze of wrinkles and sag. Some women will make glancing blows with The Wall, taking minor hits to their crumple zones that slowly add up over the years until their engine finally blows a gasket. Other women will make a last, valiant charge at The Wall when it appears on the battlefield horizon, living out the last moments of their futile resistance looking as good as possible before surrendering Christ-like to the inevitable.
But then there are those women — fewer in number but out-sized in their penchant for spectacular exits from the sexual market — who turn to face The Wall when still young and pretty and jam the accelerator to the floor, propelled by a jet engine and a metadeath wish, and slam into the immovable edifice with such speed and unswerving gusto that the wreckage left behind is used as PSAs for classrooms full of young women on the perils of hard living and waiting too long for marriage and children.
This is actress Jennifer Lien, who was recently arrested for exposing her post-Wall devastation to three kids.
That is a fifteen year separation folks. F-i-f-t-e-e-n years. She doesn’t just look like a different woman; she looks like a different species. Her destruction, at age 41, is complete.
Looking at that 1995 photo of lovely Ms Lien, I would have pursued and happily spelunked her secret sinkhole. In her 2010 photo, the thought of accidentally grazing her fat clammy forearm skin in a supermarket aisle fills me with revulsion.
That, ladies, is the incredible romance-killing power of The Wall. Respect it, and heed its warnings. The time for dawdling about in the feminist factories of urban sluttitude and swallowing the pain away with a cocktail of anti-depressants is shorter than you think. tick…. tock.
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Reader Stationarity writes,
I read this article yesterday, and after I cleaned up the vomit, I wondered, could her tit flashing be some desperate post wall attempt at validation?
Half of women’s psychoses could be described as behavioral manifestations of a subconscious need to feel externally validated in their sexual worth. The other half is the cognitive dissonance created by rationalizing away this need as feminist empowerment.
This is actress Jennifer Lien, who was recently arrested for exposing her post-Wall devastation to three kids.
That is a fifteen year separation folks. F-i-f-t-e-e-n years. She doesn’t just look like a different woman; she looks like a different species. Her destruction, at age 41, is complete.
It’s ironic that she played Kes the Ocampa. (For those of you unfamiliar with Star Trek, the Ocampa are a race of humanoids who only live about as long as dogs.)
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I’ll admit to being a Trek nerd but I couldn’t even get through one episode of Voyager.
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I didn’t watch Voyager either. Learned about Kes through a cheap paperback owned by a friend while on a camping trip. Boredom, y’all…
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So this “lady” is most famous for playing a specimen that with the lifespan of a dog?
There’s a clever joke in there somewhere I’m sure fellas, perhaps something to do with her being a “dog” of an actress or how many “dogyears” until the wall…
I’m hoping you guys can finish. I always welcome the delicious wit of the readers of this particularly dark corner of the dark sphere.
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or how many “dogyears” until the wall…
I’m bad with making up jokes, but this clause is asking for one.
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Looks like she had a really ruff life…
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She must have been going near light speed when she hit. She’s only 41? I know sexier women that are in their seventies.
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You’ve gotta be f—ing kidding me – that can’t be the same person at +15yrs!
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[golf clap] bravoo ms. lien. bravo.
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Jesus Christ! That’s shocking. She used to embody the gamine archetype (though the short hair never appealed to me). Maybe she’s been taking some kind of antidepressant – I’ve seen certain pharmaceuticals wreck havoc on the figures (and faces) of several women. Can’t think of an excuse to account for the hair and general slovenly appearance, however. Such a waste.
Jeri Ryan’s still bangable, though, right?
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Survey says….NOPE!
[CH: tragic.]
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Yeah, the skin’s looking a bit saggy – a lift and tuck here and there would probably work wonders. Looks like minimal makeup in this photo. What, did she just roll out of bed to sign autographs at a convention or something?
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Remember that Jeri Ryan’s husband got in trouble for asking her to blow him at a club in Paris. She refused. He was running for the senate in Illinois. Against some guy named Barack Obama. Mr. Ryan had to withdraw from the race. We know what happened after that. I wonder if anyone still wants a blow job from her now.
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Oh god, she looks like smeagol now.
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If Don Knotts went tranny.
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Illinois had a choice. It chose wrong. http://www.celebritywithoutmakeup.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/michelleobamanomakeup.jpg
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She looks like Alison Janney.
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WNB. She still looks like a deserving recipient of dick-to-mouth inoculation.
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A little worse than that. The allegation was that he wanted her to blow him in front of other people…
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Gollum!
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7/9 would bang.
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“Oh god, she looks like smeagol now.”
ROTFL!
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Wow, saw her once in LA 15-16 years ago, tight workout wear @ Starbucks Ventura and woodman, definitely a fine piece. This is disappointing. Saw Adrienne Barbeau @ the market once. Killed my adolescent j fantasy.
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We doesn’t care what it has in it’s nasssty pocketsses!
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My preciousss…
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She does have two children, so the beauty genes live on.
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I’d still bang Jerri for old times sake.
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This photo (of old Jeri Ryan) shows the can’t-win nature of The Wall; a strict diet can keep the body from becoming unduly fat, but then the face will be gaunt, and a gaunt face results in the Searching look in the eyes. Mind you, that’s her WITH MAKEUP.
Genes play a huge role (for both genders) in how gracefully one can age. For example, Russians and Irish age notoriously poorly.
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The Jack/Jeri allegation came out from a sealed custody hearing. BHO lawyers got the seal broken, he withdrew from the race, the repubs slid in Alan Keyes very late in the process because he as self financing, BHO got elected, and the rest is history. So Jack Ryan was the recipient of the divorce/custody shredding machine.
She was hot in the day…
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Nads – they were all ESKIMOS. Chicago Eskimo David Axelrod called in a favor with an Eskimo judge in California who had the jurisdiction necessary to unseal the divorce record. I’ve never heard of anything like that, but, as we all know, the Rule of Law doesn’t seem to apply to the Phariseeical Legalists.
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Cap’n –
violated by the legal system. I believe a similar thing has happened to several opponents of BHO and their sealed court records.
Jack Ryan is an interesting guy. I lived in So. Ill. at the time and heard him speak during the primaries. Look up his bio if you can. Suspiciously like Jeri Ryan’s character on the Chicago School show she was on. Boston Public?
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Stop being a drama queen. That’s not bad for age 44 in that photo. Ryan is 47 now. If you look at the photo section on her twitter page, she doesn’t look as bad on her recent photos of her posing with fans. Yes, she’s nowhere near her prime. But at least she’s not the atrocity that is Jennifer Lien.
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If Don Knotts went tranny.
+1000
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Don Knotts was quite the lady killer, according to Andy Griffith.
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@elmer
Proving that you can still pull women even if you look like Gollum.
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She had a kid, which is probably responsible for about half the increase in mass. The rest — from her Wikipedia entry I’m guessing booze, and plenty of it.
[CH: on a trip to a vanishing part of europe filled with young mothers pushing baby strollers, i noticed very very few of them carried any post-partum weight gain. this indicates to me that a myth has developed in america that women will necessarily put on massive amounts of weight during and after pregnancy, and that this weight gain will be hard to lose. it’s bullshit meant as an excuse for fat fucks to continue eating mass quantities straight through pregnancy and beyond.]
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[CH: on a trip to a vanishing part of europe filled with young mothers pushing baby strollers, i noticed very very few of them carried any post-partum weight gain. this indicates to me that a myth has developed in america that women will necessarily put on massive amounts of weight during and after pregnancy, and that this weight will be hard to lose. it’s bullshit meant as an excuse for fat fucks to continue eating mass quantities straight through pregnancy and beyond.]
This.
In fact, I’d say from observing women in their 40s and 50s, that the conventional “wisdom” about kids making a woman fat is completely upside-down. I know quite a few childless women who are fat sows, and several mothers who had several children — I mean, like more than five — who are still slim.
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If she has a kid young, it’s pretty easy for a woman’s figure to snap back. Also, breast feeding burns up a lot of calories. Some women don’t breast feed because of medication they are taking (that the baby shouldn’t be exposed to), or their milk is not sufficiently nourishing (too watery) or they are career women who “don’t have the time”. Not ideal
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The medication being anti-depressants…
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I know a woman with a large family that is in her later 40s and still looks pretty good. She never put any fat on, or if she did it was gone quickly. Historically I don’t know that people were fatter when the avg births per woman was 6 or so. Obesity is actually more inversely correlated with fertility.
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Breastfeeding is a huge secret for losing weight. It consumes 500 calories per feeding.
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i noticed very very few of them carried any post-partum weight gain. this indicates to me that a myth has developed in america that women will necessarily put on massive amounts of weight during and after pregnancy, and that this weight gain will be hard to lose.
I saw a picture of my mom pregnant with one of my sisters. Rail thin except for the baby bump. Sister had 2 kids and also managed to stay thin (I’m American). It’s hard to lose (just like all weight) but yeah, they don’t have to fatten up.
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The progressive increase in weight of the child, actually acts as a way for the woman to keep or even gain strength, to exercise, and to burn calories – provided the mother is actually interacting with her child. Breastfeeding uses up a whole lot of calories also. Of course, many nowadays skip breastfeeding and go on to park the kid in front of the TV instead.
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Paddy, Big Jim,
True that regards breast feeding.
After four years of breast feeding three kiddos, the wife is thinner than when she caught the first time out.
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It’s a lie meant to further the even bigger lie of the career+family woman. Breast feeding a kid for a year or so will take care of all that weight, just like nature intended. Ain’t nobody got time for that these days with their supposedly high flying job track.
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True, but sticking a bottle in the baby’s mouth and waiting is just as labor intensive.
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Obesity and “extra pounds” is a problem for WAY too many – and not just women. The problem’s got nothing at all to do with making babies and everything to do with, as Mike Huckabee coined, “Killing yourself with a fork and a spoon.”
I FINALLY buckled down myself after reading Blackdragon’s post here: http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2014/01/07/getting-started-from-scratch-your-first-12-steps-to-get-good-with-women/
I realized I’d packed some “extra pounds” on my frame, and I have nobody to blame but myself, and nobody will help me get better but me. I started four weeks ago just counting calories, and I’ve lost ten pounds from my high of 207 pounds, and I’m not done and it’ll be hard to keep going. That’s with NO special diet or exercise routine. I’m 6′-2″.. My next step will be adding muscle – but only after I’m certain the pounds are gone – and that’s that’ll be hard to delay since my go-to in the past has been workouts to burn fat – that never quite burns totally away.
So, the truth sucks, but it’s real: we get fat because we eat too much. if we stop eating too much, we stop being fat. All the women – like the dumb actress – who blame ANYTHING BUT FAILED WILLPOWER are trying to fool themselves and assuage their personal egos.
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Yes the math is quite simple – take in just what you burn = controlled weight.
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We get fat bcs our hormones are not balanced. My example:
I eat strictly paleo and as much as I can fit into my face but January this year I suddenly developed a ring of fat on my belly. Also couldn’t get to sleep easilyt, lost morning wood, couldn’t get motivated to exercise.
Thought I was losing T so had a test. T – 886 and E2 – 25. These are good numbers and a very good ratio. So what was the problem?
I read that D3 was involved with releasing testosterone as “free testosterone.”
Okay, took some big doses of D3 and got out into the sun more.
Result? Lost the belly fat in THREE DAYS!!! Amazing. Other issues resolved in two weeks. Motivation to exercise came back last.
So, hormone management: get some sun, eat paleo, eat home made sauerkraut as a pro-biotic, sleep, exercise, bust a nut.
And turn off the jewbox and don’t let yourself be manipulated into 24-hr tension (corisol levels affect test levels).
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@vagina dominator – how much D3 did you take?
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Not enough sleep will cause people to over eat to compensate for the greater energy needs. This is a big hidden weight gain factor.
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Don’t get hung up on calorie counting; you’ll drive yourself fucking insane. Weighing your food, too, is an idiotic idea.
Eat nutritious food until your hunger goes away, do the same thing again when it comes back. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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And correlates well with fat gamers and gamer-girls.
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Could finally see some new muscles in my arms this week, a few weeks into my health kick, following Sentient’s advice (going very slow because of my back problem).
Tested my T levels – 1253 which is v high for a 35 year old, but Vit D is v low at 14 (below 30 is deficient), so just starting to take Vit D supplements now..
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Saw new muscles first time this week after new training program.
Recently tested: T level 1253 which is high for mid thirties, but Vit D only 14 (minimum should be 30). Supplements starting
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Carlos Danger hit the nail on the head. To lose weight: 1) GET SOME SLEEP. 2 [distant second]) Limit calories. 3) Exercise.
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@Culum – my god man! You are a walking erection… Your laser eye should bore holes (heh)…
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You guys must really be burning the midnight oil if sleep’s at the top of the list.
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Yes, calorie counting might drive a guy insane, but I’m an engineer and I work math every work-day, so it’s not such a big deal for me. Instead, it’s become a kind of game. I’ll explain.
Most calorie rich food comes in at about 200 calories a cup or half-cup. Restaurant dessert or ice cream is between about 150-250 calories per half-cup. Most protein, like an egg, is a little less calorie heavy: one egg is less than 100 calories. Most vegetables – except carb rich potatoes and beans – are calorie low: two cups may still be less than 100 calories. So, altogether, the “game” becomes assembling a set of meals (or regular breakfast and lunch, more likely) that leaves spare calories at the end of the day. If I know my usual breakfast is less than 400 calories, and lunch is less than 500, and I’ve got 1700 to work with (not counting exercise), then I’ve got 800 calories for supper. Concentrate on vegetable matter at supper, and I may not be able to eat all the allotted calories is one day. All the rest is bookkeeping – which is the other half of what I do when I’m at my office.
PS: people have begun noticing my weight loss. That’s the real motivator.
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CH that’s right; Gyno docs in countries like Poland and France specifically forbid pregnant women from “eating for two” as is common practice in the Anglosphere. It makes perfect sense as there are a range of dangerous medical complications that are likely to arise from being overweight in pregnancy.
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French women gorge on cheese and wine and stay slim. Jabba prefers low-fat crap and supersize sodas.
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CH, take into consideration the age women start having children. In those parts of Europe, you talk about, women start dropping kids in their late teens/early twenties. In the West its late twenties to late thirties. This has a big effect on the womans physical recovery potential.
You already said it yourself “on a trip to a vanishing part of europe filled with young mothers pushing baby strollers,”
Look at the adjective you use for mothers here.
Western mothers typically aren’t young.
[CH: another reason for women to have kids while still young. but, i have seen plenty of 30+ moms who managed to avoid packing on the putrescent pounds, so i know that age isn’t the only factor in play.]
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No. 4 kids between 32-39 y.o. (VERY suboptimal, I know) ZERO additional lbs.
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This is why they have made divorce so expensive for men. Think long and hard about entering that institution.
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“Marriage is a desperate thing. The frogs in Aesop were extreme wise; they had a great mind to some water, but they would not leap into the well, because they could not get out again. ”
John Selden, English historian, in Table Talk (1689)
Very little new knowledge out there… In other words – probably every word uttered by your great grandfather was correct in regards to women.
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Yeoman Rand suffered a similar case of accelerated decrepitude
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They had some TNG cast reunion a few years back and Dr. Crusher seemed to have held up the best of the women (ironically she looked much better than in a 1994 episode where they aged her 25 years).
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Ahh… Dr. Gingermilf
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She was way too old for her role as Yeoman Rand. In her late thirties playing a part written for a twenty-two year-old.
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And yet Picard hasn’t changed significantly since 1985.
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I read this article yesterday, and after I cleaned up the vomit, I wondered, could her tit flashing be some desperate post wall attempt at validation?
[CH: yes. half of women’s psychoses could be described as behavioral manifestations of a subconscious need to feel externally validated in their sexual worth.]
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i’ve long argued this is part of the reason female teachers sleep with their students. being surrounded by younger, hotter, tighter girls half their age on a daily basis, they are desperate to validate their sexual worth.
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woooah…I never put that all the way together.
I think you’re right.
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But why does it persist post-Wall post-Menopause, in e.g. an Angela Merkel? Darwinian Nihilism is helpless to explain it. Post-Wall Post-Menopause, that Cluster B Insanity ought to be redirected towards helping their daughters hook up with Alpha seed in order to maximize the quality of the grandchildren.
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It’s as though, Post-Wall Post-Menopause, the female hindbrain remains hardwired to continue competing with Younger Tighter Hotter. Maybe the Creator intended for women to die in childbirth, so that they wouldn’t have to grow old and shrivelled and barren and experience this petrified ghoulish horror?
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From the male point of view, though, CH has already written about how population demographics are rapidly changing away from historical norms and towards a Male/Female ratio strongly greater than 1.0, and if the [Alpha] male compatriots of post-Wall post-Menopause women are redirecting their energy towards pre-Wall pre-Menopause women, then that distorts the ratio to a vastly greater extent in favor of Younger Hotter Tighter.
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It gets back to a question which I asked on the Angela Merkel thread: Could any of our resident Darwinian Nihilists explain why the Cluster B Insanity persists POST-WALL, when the old hag’s womb has gone barren and she can’t possibly endow any further progeny with her precious Darwinian genetic material?!?
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Right. If the Germans absolutely had to elect a woman, they should’ve gone with Ursula von der Leyen.
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No tribal checks: script keeps running. “Mommy” becomes “grandma”. Merkel with her million cowbird youths is the ultimate political grandma: so much figurative progeny.
Women without children are always off. Even when they pretend not to be. https://youtu.be/sVTebgrV6oI
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Revenge.
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This should give Zombie Shane some wood…
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Is it just me, or did Merkel actually get hotter post-wall?
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OH. MY. GAWD. I just came in my pants. And check out the bookshelf in the background – it’s a literate household?!? Glory be unto the Creator.
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An Aristocratic literate household. I generally have a high opinion of German aristocrats because the Prussian ethic kept them in line and humble servants of the state and culture. She and other indicators in the upper classes tell me that Europe is beginning to think about this issue seriously now. Americans do not understand the sway aristocrats have on European society. Most Europeans are even oblivious to it, but they act as a cultural safety valve and corrective compass in times of cultural upheaval.
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Capn… I suspect the crazy persist post menopause merely because they can survive these days. 5000 or 50000 years ago, not so much.
Oh – that’s Ursula VDL in that pic btw. Has 7 kids.
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Denise Crosby is another one. She looks like a different person.
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Denise Crosby did a softcore porn on Showtime after she left Star Trek; some kind of Red Shoe Diaries episode where she plays a cop who deliberately arrests a guy to have sex with him.
And no, none of this stuff warped my psyche to what it is today, how dare you ask!
Dr. Freud rape!
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Wow just wow. She was on the worst of the Star Trek series – and left before the dying UPN put it down. Even then she was rather creepy, both her character and how the writers made her. In the show IIRC her age was stated as about 6-7 (really) and typically looked and acted like a preteen.
Seems after she left that show, her acting career went downhill – but then again it did for the rest of the cast as well.
Looks like she consoled herself with food… Lots of it.
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Damn CH, these privileged article opress me too damn much. Another vomit inducer in the recent string of deep gastric shivs.
Jabe, walled 41yo t!t flashing hag, refugee cucks, US breast feeding army and libsh!t couples …thats red pill force-feeding , guantanamo style (guess they stream these articles in there)
… seriously time for a random pic of 10 or sth
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There’s a honest-to-God HB9.5+ in the middle of the “Young Angela Merkel” beach stroll [NSFW]: https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbm=isch&q=angela+merkel+nude+beach
[CH: what is it with krauts and nudism?]
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For shits and giggles, here’s an image of Jennifer Lien from Star Trek where she rapidly ages: http://imgur.com/VhZYvUb
Jennifer Lien in make-up meant to look like an old hag still looks better than middle-aged Jennifer Lien.
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Emily Blunt’s on her way there. Barely 32 but showing signs of age.
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Mendo – hows your raven image working out?
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I bet you were in Slovakia ch. women hold up pretty well there, even after pregnancies (among other reasons because food is expensive and there is little disposable income).
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Germany, France, Spain, Netherlands, or anywhere else in Europe it is this way. Women with children are seldom fat. I see it myself on a daily basis.
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I wish I’d been there last week:
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Oops:
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The Wall from the Great Books For Men Edition
Yet it was a vigorous, ample body. Under the shawl could be seen full broad shoulders, a high, still quite girlish bosom. Her figure suggested the lines of the Venus of Milo, though already in somewhat exaggerated proportions. That could be divined. Connoisseurs of Russian beauty could have foretold with certainty that this fresh, still youthful beauty would lose its harmony by the age of thirty, would “spread”; that the face would become puffy, and that wrinkles would very soon appear upon her forehead and round the eyes; the complexion would grow coarse and red perhaps—in fact, that it was the beauty of the moment, the fleeting beauty which is so often met with in Russian women. Alyosha, of course, did not think of this; but though he was fascinated…
Brothers Karamazov, Dostoevsky
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It is not for no reason that Einstein called this the best novel ever written. Timeless truths stated. Russian stunners become babushkas at age 30, as do turn Western women into their old-age equivalent
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Good to hear Einstein was honest. Dosteovsky’s prophetic vision of the Red Terror and Bolshevik revolutions in the Idiot and the Demons have generally won his hatred from the tribe. You won’t see him taught properly anymore in most universities who will leave out those key novels. Fortunately, at UAH you could for a while.
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“Dosteovsky’s prophetic vision of the Red Terror and Bolshevik revolutions in the Idiot”
That happened? I don’t remember it. Can you point me to a specific instance?
I only remember the TB suffering kid that was a commie.
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lien’s mugshot:
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Despite the wittering of the Feminists, women are desperate to look good, hence every time a fat sow puts up a new photo of herself smiling inanely on Facebook she will gain fifty likes and be assured (especially by Manginas and other women) that she looks fantastic.
They must know it is bollocks,
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It is ear candy designed to maintain an illusion.
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WOW. The last paragraph of that post hits all the nails squarely on their heads.
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Want to see the wall? Open a FaceWall, I mean FaceBook, account and see the horror.
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Speaking of faceballs, when trump called why the long face Fiorina beautiful at the debate I though of all those pics of white moms with their half back uglisses and the requisite “beautiful” posts by her friends. Her attempt to look like Nancy Reagan was close, but she is not attractive at all.
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Nancy Davis, AKA Reagan, was an absolute stunner in her prime.
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Yeah I was speaking of foirina not nancy.
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Once again, I think you’re being overly generous referencing age 50 in terms of the wall. That’s definitely true for wealthy urban areas like DC and NYC. But I would contend The Wall hits at 36-37 if not sooner once you get into the suburbs and beyond.
Here is how you can tell:
Get on OKCupid and check out the women ages 37-55 in downtown DC. Then do a search for that same age in the surrounding zip codes. You’ll see a drastic difference in the women. Even in the upper-middle-class towns, most of the women have already hit the wall by 40.
Once you get to the lower-class counties, well, to see pre-wall women you really can’t go beyond 30. Tattoos are making this all worse.
Finally, keep in mind that I’m only talking about looks here. There is another type of wall. That’s the one you’ll want to smash your head against when you think you’ve found the ultimate, well-preserved 40-year-old, but she’s crazier than Brian Wilson and Syd Barrett put together.
There is a Personality Wall out there, and we really need to discuss it. Nice-looking older women are not the sweet, happy young things that work the registers at the local mall or supermarkets. Somewhere along the line, they got in a bad mood one day and it never went away.
Or they developed off-putting habits and “eccentricities” than no one ever called them on. Or, worst of all, they decided animals were more “noble” than people and surround themselves with non-humans who can’t talk back and give love “unconditionally.” Gee, think that might be a telltale sign of a control freak? “Crazy cat lady” became a phrase for good reason, sad to say.
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Awesome comment.
I’ve pruned many older women out of my life because of that very Personality Wall. Even if they still look good.
The sweet spot (to me) is 24 yrs to 32 yrs. Old enough not to be annoying, young enough not to be bitter.
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“Somewhere along the line, they got in a bad mood one day and it never went away.”
Or worse, they become completely incapable of sincerity when dealing with other people and turn 100% phony — emotionally dead — 24/7/365. Horrifying.
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> “Somewhere along the line, they got in a bad mood one day and it never went away.” ——— Dude, you have just [unwittingly?!?] stumbled upon The Code Itself: {0, 1, 2, Infinity}. THE DARKNESS CAN ONLY BE SATIATED BY EVER GREATER DARKNESS!!!!! It is the Great Vortex of Death.
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Great…this incident just proved Ben Franklin wrong:
Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part: The Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower Parts continuing to the last as plump as ever: So that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old from a young one. And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement.
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Might have been the spirochetes talking
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Keep the comments simple, short [like TXTs or Twitters], with no HTML markup, and no more than one URL link. Also – look at your timestamp – you’re trying to post in the middle of the day, when the system is in Brownout heading towards Blackout. Now look at my timestamps – off peak hours when the system is almost in hibernation.
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Lovely, no. Cute, (as in little girl cute) yes. That was one of the show’s MANY problems, including:
Female Captain – the Carly Fiorina of Star Trek.
Beta First officer – no Riker was he.
Black Vulcan – Really, WTF?
The helmsman was supposed to be the alpha, but wound up being a beta too.
Female Chief Engineer – Only semi-competent and only semi-likeable.
Neelix, the comedy relief – Why? Oh, and Kes’ boyfriend as well *urg*
Mind you, they cast Jennifer Lien (Kes) as the fanservice character, it took them years (and likely quite a bit of hate mail) to realize most of the fans ain’t pedos. She was replaced with Jeri Ryan (Seven of Nine) who actually filled that role – and a skin-tight bodysuit – quite nicely.
By then, it’s was too little, too late to salvage. Star Trek Voyager finally got put out of it’s misery after five very disappointing years.
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My recollection of my impression of her from the show: Cute, but asexual, and her voice was too deep. Her miscegenic boyfriend situation didn’t make her any more endearing. When the Seven-of-Sixtynine arrived, she was instantly forgotten.
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She actually departed an episode or two after that: her brain/psyche was about to go supernova [doubtless on account of being displaced as Alpha Female by 7-of-69], and so she used her incipient superpowers to THRUST the Starship Voyager halfway across the Delta Quadrant.
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I seem to recall a guest appearance a few years later when she [the real life actress] had already gained a substantial amount of weight – maybe she was already pregnant?
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The black vulcan thing—-I never really understood complaints about him. We have black and white humans, why not black and white vulcans? Vulcan’s a big planet. Except they should have made the black vulcans the slave labor of the non-black vulcans, since the former weren’t smart enough to challenge the latter.
The real tragedy was pretending Darkie McAffirmativeActionStein had the intelligence of a normal Vulcan.
Vulcan rape!
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Why? It broke ‘canon’. In previous Star Treks (and later ones as well) there was never any indication there were other Vulcan (and their close cousins, Romulan) ‘races’. Nor unlike the change in Klingons from the original to the TNG and later version did they try to explain it.
Like the rest of them, it was bad (rushed, cheap) casting.
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As I said, dude, if a planet the size of Earth can have multiple races, others can too. The fault lay in pretending the black ones were equal to the non-blacks, which is laughable to anyone who deals with blacks.
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> “they should have made the black vulcans the slave labor of the non-black vulcans” ——— Thread Winner.
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Almost shocked the obvious star trek joke hasn’t been made:
Jennifer Lien: boldly turning into where no man will go again.
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As somebody who enjoys a tender morsel of snatch when he finds one:
Looking at those pics makes me doubt the wisdom of eating out cuties, and I’m selective about who gets a good slobbering of her snatch.
Look at it like this: slobbering the snatch of the cutie on the left side is the same as doing it to the horror on the right.
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I won’t be seen with the woman on the right, let alone go down on her. Obviously someone has been slumming it.
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Teenage girls should be married off to 25 year old men. Search your feelings, you know it to be true…
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I think this is about right, I intend to arrange a marriage for my daughter to a future MD or engineer. I will not allow a single one of you hound dogs near her and you will be held off at the end of a Vepr 12. Ten years is a good enough age difference. Much less is stupid for the man. I prefer 15 or more. Above 20 is dicey too.
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35 would be better.
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In Ancient Rome mid-teen girls were very often married to mid-40’s men as that was a good combination to produce healthy children – young women with 10-15 fertile years ahead of them and high status men with enough resources to provide for the offspring. In today’s world it would be considered a heinous sex crime. Bet those Roman men weren’t complaining…
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The sort of age peering as being the only acceptable thing is quite modern. Even in the 19th century, even in the USA, a 10 year or more age spread wasn’t considered deviant. I don’t know how common but it wasn’t considered deviant best I can tell. Even as late as the 1950s Bogart was being paired with women in their early 20s in films and he wasn’t playing a man younger than his actual age either.
The age peering thing I believe grew out of the modern public school system that segregates children by age. It conditions people to stay within their own age group. It also makes the population more controllable since it becomes more difficult for the older generations to pass on knowledge. The state and media become knowledge gate-keepers.
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The 1995-2010 transformation above is not at all unusual for a woman who has had some kids. This is what your sweetheart will look like in 15 years. Exercise and diet can help a lot though.
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Only if she lets herself go. Most women in Europe in the 40s are very bangable.
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Well, you do get some progeny out of the arrangement, and presumably ol’ fat-n-ugly has-been is HOMESCHOOLING them for you.
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Interesting aspect of her character related to Chateau Heartiste:
When the show started, her character was in a serious, long term relationship with another character named Neelix. Neelix was older, ugly, fat, perpetually “upbeat” and smiling, and clearly beta; meanwhile, her character, Kes, was youthful, sexy, sweet, and feminine (in fact, she was the “young hot babe” character on the show before Jeri Ryan appeared partway through the series as Seven of Nine).
The relationship seemed to be a sop to fans: yes, you fat ugly dudes with no alpha in you, you can have a hot young thing like this. Congrats.
Of course, the backstory to their relationship was that Neelix had rescued Kes and the two had formed a bond as a result. Neelix and Kes are taken aboard the Star Trek ship as refugees, and so are forced to live there, with Neelix becoming the ship’s cook.
Yet not even in the fictional Star Trek universe could such a pairing continue. Kes breaks up with Neelix and abandons the beta pussy. In fact, during the time Kes and Neelix are a couple on the show, Kes shows much more interest in the non-alive, holographic Doctor character than Neelix.
So, yes, wusses, if you literally save a hot chicks life from extermination, you may get some pity sex from her—but only if she cannot physically leave the ship you are on. But she will come to hate you and escape as soon as she can, and will find any other male —even non-existent ones—hotter and better to shack up with than you.
Star Trek: Voyager rape!
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If I’m not mistaken they had a story line where young fuckboy, Tom Paris, was the object of some serious mate guarding by Neelix.
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There was an episode of Voyager where Jennifer Lien’s character was rapidly aged into an old hag. Old hag in make-up Jennifer Lien is still hotter than barely middle-aged Jennifer Lien.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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Saw this when the story of her arrest came out. Couldn’t recognize her, so searched for photos of her character. Could not believe it – was like DAAAAAYYYUUUMMMM…
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“spelunked her secret sinkhole” – Some of the finest Heartiste wordplay ever
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I can’t believe that is the same person.
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“Nature gives you the face you have at twenty. Life shapes the face you have at thirty. But at fifty you get the face you deserve.” ― Coco Chanel …
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Amanda Seyfried is another great example of real time live wall impact.
She used to be pretty cute; now she just looks pretty used…
No doubt corrupted by decadent indulgence of contemporary high speed Hollywood life.
Observe the emergence of her 1000 cock stare….
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She should have stayed in the Delta Quadrant.
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lol
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You didn’t even bother with the mugshot from the exposure incident.
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Can you please post the mugshot and not old photos of the lead singer of Madness?
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My sides.
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C’mon, that’s Bruce Jenner isn’t it?
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C’mon, that’s Bruce Jenner isn’t it?
The name is Caitlyn and don’t you forget it, you hate filled bigot!!!!
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Off topic ….
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life/cats-dont-love-you-scientists-conclude-20150904-gjf4a9.html
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Did those children receive counseling and treatment? PTSD is devastating and can resonate throughout adulthood is trauma is experienced when young.
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“Half of women’s psychoses could be described as behavioral manifestations of a subconscious need to feel externally validated in their sexual worth. The other half is the cognitive dissonance created by rationalizing away this need as feminist empowerment”
well said
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Suggest sidebar of ~Tip of the Spear~ shivs like that one^
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The last snippet just wraps it all up in one short but enlightening explanation. The truth hurts. But oh does it feel good to have taken the red pill.
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[…] shall add this new article from Heartiste mainly because the girl did indeed, as one commenter remarks, “used to embody the gamine […]
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[…] What A High Velocity, Head-On Impact With The Wall Looks Like | Chateau Heartiste […]
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Holy shit, she looks like my mom now
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This should’ve been the BEFORE photo:
[CH: so sad. so sad….]
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Fucking scary….
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And throw in that deep dark voice of hers? Can you imagine being, say, a high school drama teacher, with her as a 17yo actress in your school production, and trying to resist the temptation to go full statutory-r@pe on every orifice of her body? That’s a strong argument for never becoming a high school drama teacher.
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Definitely. Comparing this photo to the mugshot increases the horror exponentially
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I’m 40 something and I laughed my ass off at the descriptions lol. And at least you upped the age from 40 to 50! 😱🙎🏽
[CH: i never said 40 was terminal impact for women. 50 is the age of sexual WORTHLESSNESS for 99.9% of women. 40 is the age when most women are for all practical purposes out of the running for any halfway decent man who can still afford to have some standards.]
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She wasn’t that hot to begin with. She was “serviceably cute.” But then she went all rock-troll-with-a-mullet on us
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Hideous. My sister just turned 30 and her facebook is a litany of cat-photos, selfies from the shoulders up, and “you go grrrrl”s. It truly saddens me to see how she has wasted her prime years to work at a dead-end government job while “pursuing a career.” No domestic skills to speak of, but boy, she can organize her boss’s schedule like no other.
A little off topic: ever since red-pilling 4 years ago, I get depressed from time to time. Before the red-pill, I was a try-hard beta and my personality has done a complete 180. I’m much more stoic and hard-nosed now (for the better), but I think I might have blown out some circuitry when it comes to emotions. When I was first “transforming” from beta-boy status, I was a dead-eyed wreck and I veered way too hard into jerk-boy status. Anyway, red-pilling has resulted in periodic bouts of ennui. I get really existential about life and think “why does any of this actually matter?” Shark’s writings (from Solve My Girl Problems) about the “void” really stuck with me.
In these times I try to exercise, read books, and surround myself with the wisdom of greater men than I (historical or otherwise). While it may be corny to quote Russell Crowe from Gladiator, Maximus is (to me, anyway), a paragon of an honorable alpha. “Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back.”
Does anyone else deal with these periods of depression that are spurred on by what we have learned of human nature as red-pillers? Any tips at dealing with it?
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“I would have pursued and happily spelunked her secret sinkhole.”
That is SO money! ha ha
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The late Jan Hooks is a far scarier example.
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As a white nationalist – what is a guy suppose to do? Try and game snooty spoiled entitled fat Western women or turn down the advances of Asian and African women who are fit, tight and hot – they want to cook and sleep with me as I am white?
[CH: i have to say this waifu argument has some merit. if american white women continue getting fatter, nastier and more feminist, the appeal of a thin asian chick will become stronger to white men. white women, this is your chance to turn it around! push away from the table and the tumblr.
african women are on the whole mostly unattractive. but there are a few lookers who seem to have defied their african genetic heritage and possess the facial substructure of white women.]
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That’s why I married an asian. Too many fat, entitled, careerist, equalist white chicks.
I prefer green eyes and red hair, but I don’t like girls with bigger arms than me.
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this is the white mans paradox; the reason he cant control his woman.
How can you kill the pedestal when you wanna be the pedestal?
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what do you mean ?
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CH: Please turn down the mod settings – it’s perma-locking up even two line posts from my logged in accounts. How does everyone else get their posts through?
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YaReally, Sentient, HABD, Wala and others
Short FR update – now that I’m off sugar daddy sites, I’m slowly trying to get back to meeting girls IRL.
But the wingman situation in my city is dire (and nonexistent when travelling). There’s a fairly active local lair/forum but a lot of the good guys have left it and the remnants are terrible. I don’t even expect them to be good at Game – I just want a couple of guys who are socially normal, not boring to hang out with, and if we’re out, could plausibly be my buddies on a night out. But it’s really hard to find. And when I do, it’s even more rare to find someone committed to going out regularly.
The bottom line being that I will keep looking, but it seems I have to reconcile myself to going out solo if I am to practice. I am very much a night game person, but I am terrible at keeping up my state and being social if I am out alone. I need to work on that too, but as an interim step I am starting to do daygame.
I’ve only been “out day gaming” 2-3 times before in ten years although I’ve had some success organically getting into chats with girls and closing with numbers etc – situational openers.
First time today..walked round busy downtown office area – stepped into shops etc. Quite hard to get into state and do anything, but I hit my target of two openers (one was literally an old lady, but hey – when the AA is kicking in). The second was a pretty mid-twenties HB7 looking at a shelf for ages in a bookshop and I made her laugh by saying “So much choice..so little time” and got in some solid EC too. Didn’t continue the conversation.
Two other women – both HB7s – one walks past me with solid EC and a big smile – to the point where I was wondering if there was something on my face. Another HB7 stops me as I was literally walking into a store in the mall and asks me for directions to some place she could have found herself if she’d just looked at the map on the wall behind her. Didn’t do anything with them (the reflexes are not there and need to be learned) but clearly the IOIs are there..
So, first steps new journey. I’ve learned so much with online game, text game and with escalation and sexualising on dates, but it’s time to go back to cold approach basics now..feels weird to be so bad at this again after two years with very little cold approach.
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Lol… sure there are exceptions but 50? Please… generally 27 is their peak, then dissipation starts… all downhill. Without makeup, hair dye, obesity etc… No way.
[CH: 50 is sexual WORTHLESSNESS, which means sexually invisible to the vast majority of men, and to all alpha men with options. this assertion does not preclude noting that women tend to peak in attractiveness between the ages of 15 and 25.]
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27 is too late, i would say the majority of women peak about 22/23, some extreme cases will be going downhill from as early as 17/18. Tattoos, smoking, poor diets/obesity and cock-carouseling greatly speed up the process.
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You mean ‘WHITE WOMEN’
You all degrade rapidly after 22.
Inferior genetics.
[CH: half-assed troll effort. i know you can do better “al”.]
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WOAH! (wiping sweat off my forehead) Thank GOD I’m not a woman. If I was, I would’ve gone straight to the medicine cabinet after reading this…
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Beauty is fleeting and the Wall is inevitable. Regardless, there are ways women can put off hitting it at full impact and instead gracefully slide into old age. Yoga is a huge one, as is general healthy living and remaining gracious for as long as possible, even when life hurts us. I do yoga with some older ladies and they all seem to remain slim and in good shape, with calm pleasant demeanors due to all the meditation. Even if not sexually attractive, they’re still attractive. All men should encourage their wives and girlfriends to do yoga.
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“How much D3 did you take?”
I took about 5-10,000 units a day (I’m am not that sure) for about a month. That was a big dose just to get my numbers up. Now I just don’t cover up any more when I go out in the sun ( I live in the tropics). I try to make sure I get about 3 hours a week.
I am Australian – north-west Euro heritage – and the last 50 years we have been hit with a lot of anti-sun propaganda. But since I went paleo I don’t even burn any more, even if I spend an hour in the tropical midday sun. So it seems that anti-sun stuff is just more bullshit you can toss out.
My blood work number (don’t remember the units off hand) was 40 (ng/dl??) which is not deficient but isn’t great either. 70 is said to be optimal
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Good Lord, the women who played Kes could’ve at least stayed in shape for the petite MILF roles… but jeez!
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Colleen Camp, anyone?
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