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America, Then And Now

Then, 1925:

Now, 2014:

(h/t peterike) At least the fattest one kept her dress down and spared us all an episode of PTSD.

UPDATE

It seems no commenters got the underlying message of this edition of “America, Then and Now”. The 1920s were a high (or low) water mark of sexual licentiousness and decadence in the US. There are those who argue that these decadence periods follow historical cycles. We may be at another peak (or trough) of sexual licentiousness and decadence now, in 2015 America. (The previous being the late 60s-early 70s.) Yet, the contrast between the 1925 photo and the 2014 photo couldn’t be starker. If the former is decadent, the latter is gutter filth.

Clearly, if there’s a poz cycle that operates on say, a forty-year cycle, the long-term trend over the accumulated poz cycles is towards ever-greater vulgarity. When some deep nadir in the poz cycle is achieved, the system will probably break into parts, rather than swing the poz pendulum back into anti-poz.

249 Responses to “America, Then And Now”

  1. mingetastic says:

    It’s really classy the way the girls in 1925 used to only get tattoos in areas they could cover with clothing.

    • In 1925 the only women who had tattoos were prostitutes. How old are you 16?

    • larazablanca says:

      Tattoos have already been for lower-class women even in the 1920s. I sense American education being responsible for mingetastic’s comment.

      • Joe says:

        Tattoos don’t work properly at all now that middle class mommies driving the kids to soccer in a minivan sport sleeves. It used to mean something to have a tat – it was associated with military service, or perhaps prison or a gang. Now? You had a couple hours to kill after getting your latte on a Saturday, before your Pilates class. I think it’s supposed to be transgressive but it’s about as bold as taking a picture of a crucifix dunked in urine. You want to be transgressive? Have short hair and no tats. And put a koran in that bucket of urine for your art gallery photoshoot. That’d be transgressive. Fat chicks with tats at a black dress wedding? The ultimate in hipster conformity. And…

        Pathetic.

      • Earl says:

        What’s responsible for yours?

      • Joe says:

        No tats, just scars, Earl.

    • Salazar says:

      I’m surprised how many repliers didn’t understand your sarcasm

    • Sam says:

      The sperg response to this was great.

    • There’s a thread over at Free Republic tonight, about what a bunch of filthy dykes the US Women’s Soccer team really is: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3308108/posts

      • Captain Obvious says:

      • Signor Farfalla says:

        I guessed that the team would be filled with annoying, “My child will be different” names that are so prevalent these days; Hope, Morgan, Whitney, Ashlyn, Tobin (really?) Sydney, Alyssa, Ali, Alex, Carli, Abby.

        There were actually more normal ones than I thought there would be;
        Megan, Meghan, Julie, Lauren, Shannon, Lori, Kelley, Heather, Amy, Becky.

        All in all, better than I thought it would be.

      • The Spirit Within says:

        @Signor

        The reason: Being a pro athlete requires incredible dedication and hard work. Coming from a strong family gets you started on that path. Strong families, in turn, tend not to follow trends.

      • 88 says:

        @Signor Farfalla

        yeah, i hate it how people have ruined some perfectly good names by making them gender neutral.

        you mention morgan, sydney and alex. you can add jordan and taylor to the list of perfectly good names for men that have been given to girls just to make life difficult for them and everyone else.

        i actually have a buddy named taylor who now goes by tj because so many girls have that name that it has affected him professionally.

        i will say that one of the names on your normal list shouldn’t be there. lauren is super trendy right now. especially with parents who believe that gender is a choice.

      • Signor Farfalla says:

        @Spirit Within

        Follow trends is exactly what those ‘strong’ families did. It’s a blatant trend.

      • Signor Farfalla says:

        Don’t forget the Presidential names; Carter, Reagan, Madison, Hamilton, Lincoln, Jackson,

        The male versions of “My child will be unlike the rest” Tanner, Sampson, Brennan, Baker, Skylar, Cody, River, Payton, Owen, Brody, Tristan, Riley, Connor, Carson, Parker, Jaleb, Caleb,

        These are the names;

        boys; mike, dave, scott, bill, john, jack, joe, darrell, drew, dan, charles, mark, chris, rod, sean, craig, brian, duane, ed

        girls; sally, becky, amy, ann, laura, michelle, jessica, sue, peggy, jean, tanya, cathy, megan, emily, sarah, patty,

        People need to quit fucking around and stay in their lanes. The special child naming trend has gotten way out of hand.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Thank you, Senor… Strapon is too dim to realize his own inanity.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        There’s a thread over at Free Republic tonight, about what a bunch of filthy dykes the US Women’s Soccer team really is:

        Well…. DUH!

      • PA says:

        There care solely two reasons to watch women’s sports: (1) women are better at what they do than men in a given evet, such as in gymnastics or figure skating; (2) the culture of the sport promotes attractive women in cute skirts, such as tennis or golf.

      • Captain Obvious says:

        > “Well…. DUH!” —– If you were Rip Van Winkle, and slept from, say, 2005 to 2015, then you would be shocked at the degree of Truth Talk at Free Republic today. Free Republic used to be the upscale high-brow “elegant” conservative site, and the stuff they’re saying openly now would have gotten them immediately banned back then.

      • The Spirit Within says:

        No, Signor, you didn’t understand. Traditional families don’t follow many trends, and they tend to support athletics more. So that’s why you were surprised by the number of traditional whitebread names such as Kristin, Lauren, Michelle, etc. Understand?

        Greg Eliot: Don’t even.

      • elmer says:

        “Mehgyn” is the quintessential modern girl name.

      • HR Lincoln says:

        When I was a young man, all of the girls in my grammar school class were named Linda, Susan, Jennifer, Katherine/Catherine, and Debbie. And none of them were obese.

      • CarpeOro says:

        Occasionally it is asked why Italy, which has had so many great men soccer teams, doesn’t have a women’s team that even makes the finals. After seeing the pictures of the US team I feel vindicated in thinking that it is probably because they are more feminine than American women. I’m about as interested in women soccer as I am in women power lifting. The results are not ones I care to see.

      • “Parker” is another one that I’ve encountered more than once.

      • Ecosse says:

        “women are better at what they do than men in a given event, such as in gymnastics or figure skating.”
        I went to the ladies world figure skating championship (free ticket) and after the event was over the men took to the ice for a few jumps and the audience gasped loudly, their jumps looked like they were literally twice as far as the ladies.
        P.S. I would bet my house that my old high school hockey team could easily trounce any women’s national team without hardly breaking a sweat.

        I think that women are better at looking after young children though.

      • Signor Farfalla says:

        @Spirit Within,

        Okay, so these championship families are half strong and half annoyingly trendy. We’re getting petty.

        Others;

        Tanner, Madison, Carter, Owen, Carson, Reagan, Skyler, Seth, Sampson, River, Cody, Baker, McKayla, Nevaeh, Austin, Kylie, Kyla, Kyrie, Cohen,

        All hell. Name your kids Jack and Sally and get over yourselves.

    • theasdgamer says:

      They still managed to obtain the “1000 cock” stare back in 1925. Just look at them!

      • Greg Eliot says:

        That’s just female modesty… and both getting their pictures took and the formality of the occasion.

        Even the women were a lot more serious back then… especially in regard to marriage.

      • theasdgamer says:

        Duuuude! Women were quite slutty back in the Roaring Twenties. The Depression hit in ’29, and women straightened up until war time from ’41 to ’45. Husbands went off to war and wives got lonely at home. Women were able to work outside the home and their financial conditions improved. Women were no longer dependent on their husbands. They slutted up.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        The so-called Roaring Twenties, for all their roaring, did not turn the average woman into the likes of today’s possessor of said 1000 cock stare.

        You’re making the oft-made mistake of projecting modern phenomena onto other eras.

        The men of WWI were not gone all that long, and women did not enter the workplace en masse until some twenty or so years later than the above picture.

      • theasdgamer says:

        Work a bit on your reading comp, there, Big Guy. I was talking about WW TWO!

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Right back at ya on that reading comp thing, kid.

        The picture above has nothing to do with the WWII era…

        And that’s also why I added “some twenty years later” in re women entering the workplace and men being absent, as per what you were trying to contend.

        Your bringing up of WWII had nothing to do with this from the start, which is why I gainsaid the idea of the ladies in the pic having a 1000 cock stare and the whole men absent/women in the workforce phenomena.

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

      • theasdgamer says:

        Either you have a problem with reading comp or you are dishonest. My main point wasn’t women in the workforce, but women being financially secure. When they are financially secure, they tend to diss their beta husbands and seek alpha c0k. (Women entered the work force about 1942 in the U.S., which was 24 years after the end of WWI.)

  2. You know when you pick fruits at the store and you feel disdain for those with blemishes, you do not even want the fruits that were in contact with them?

    Well tattoos on women look like blemishes to me, like those women are damaged goods.

    • PWN says:

      While I’m guilty of this too, that’s why our vegetables are filled with chemicals. Lol

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Well tattoos on women look like blemishes to me, like those women are damaged goods.

      I admire your sense of charity and marked restraint…

      I would just have said they’re damaged.

    • HR Lincoln says:

      Every once in a while, I’ll see an absolutely gorgeous young woman, with her arms/legs/back/neck covered with tattoos.

      All I can think of is her father, and how it must absolutely kill him.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Yeah, it hurts to see the pretty ones disfigure themselves like that… the slags, well… who cares?

        And double yeah, it would absolutely have killed me if my daughter got tatted… I looked askance when I saw a second earring in one of her lobes, but thankfully that’s as far as it got.

        And I’ve been blessed indeed, not even any of the three boys fell into that Lookit-Me-Me-Me trap.

        Funny thing, when I talked to them about it years ago and told them I was against it, the oldest one said “No worries, Pop… every half-assed dweeb is walking around with ’em now, so what’s the point?”

      • mendozatorres says:

        Store I go to, there’s this beautiful young lass; such an angelic looking face, plump lips, trim figure. She’s got two wing tats on either shoulder blade. Really sullies the image.

        I used to have a no tats policy then “recinded” that policy when I saw this beauty with a booty, yet with the slut welcome mat on the back. Found out she was in the process of getting her entire left torso draped in ink.

        I had already gone back to a no tats policy when I found the red pill and I was surprised to discover the types of women with such inclinations.

      • The Other Jim says:

        I’m pretty sure the best investment opportunities for the near future will be to invest in tattoo removal services, hymenoplasty(hymen reconstruction to give the illusion of virginity), and internet presence erasing services. I see a huge growth market due to the women in the second pic.

        It’s rather funny, because recently I’ve been meeting more and more women who have relocated from New York to where I live and do business(Arizona & Palm Springs CA) for a, ahem….fresh start in life. You can tell with these New York transplants(female, in their late 20’s/early 30’s) they’ve been around the cock carousel more times than they can count, have moved from NY to run away from their past, and are looking for some poor unaware beta schmuck to wife them up. It’s all so laughable but interesting as they really do display the ‘Alpha Fucks-Beta Bucks’ strategy. These recent transplants have clearly made the decision that finding some poor unaware beta in Arizona will be easier if they don’t have to fear running into the many ‘Alpha’s’ they’ve fucked over the years.

    • corvinus says:

      Nearly all women in their 20s have them, so it’s not like we have much of a choice.

  3. H2 says:

    Somewhat on-topic for America then and now, I watched “Gone With the Wind” recently, the first hour or so is FILLED with juicy red pill moments for sexual dynamics. The teens in Mean Girls wouldn’t stand a chance against Scarlett O’Hara. Rhett Butler even breaks down for a while until the very end.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      He doesn’t break down… he merely plays up the amused mastery because he’s a gentleman who still believes she’s just a spoiled little girl who can be made into a woman, once he gives her a good rogering.

      It’s not until the end, and the heartbreak of losing his little girl, that he realizes fully what a shallow vessel Scarlett truly is.

  4. […] America, Then And Now […]

  5. lol, seriously you do this kind of shit?

    Would you honestly fuck any of the 1925 women?

    Do you actually like their styles? Of course not

    You might argue: it’s about their bodies. Well, they also have weird bodies because women back then didn’t work out or play some kind of sports during childhood.

    Why you need to cherry pick the ugly fatsos of today? Today there are beautiful women too, there are hot sluts who work out and fuck hot guys without too many problem. It’s not that bad. Nobody likes fatsos, so why don’t we simply ignore them and concentrate on the hot sluts instead.

    This kind of shit really sounds so much butthurt MGTOW needing to bash women because they can’t get laid with hot sloots

    • youknowexactlywho says:

      Sorry. My cock cannot read nor tell a lie.

    • the gaffer says:

      i think he’s simply offering up an example of changing behaviour/attitudes /values on an occasion previously deemed sacred,marriage and thus some modesty was observed unlike the crass fools in the 2014 photo ?

    • Females curves are in good part fat, breasts are mostly fat and so are hips, working out can help but it is mostly good genes that make a woman sexy.

      There has always been sexy women, art pieces from thousands of years ago shows this is true, and those women were not working out. Nature gave them those hot curves.

      A woman with saggy breasts could do bench press exercises 10 hours a day and her breasts would still be saggy.

    • PWN says:

      Are you idiotic? I have a few reasons for why the answer is yes.
      1)the pics he chose are an appropriate comparison because they depict average women. Just like the girls in the recent photograph aren’t hotties for our age, neither were the girls in the 20’s pictures. He didn’t cherry pick the fatsos, but you seem to want to cherry pick the hotties. Or are you so retarded that you think gym going hotties are the average western woman?
      2)you assume women have to play sports or do much to have good bodies. While most of the girls I fucked were good looking, I can’t say the ones that worked out looked that much better.
      3)you assume girls a century ago just laid on their asses, which is untrue.
      4)its imbecilic of the highest degree to assume that because CH minds women being trashy that he minds if they work out. Soon you will say that he should travel by horse for making this photo comparison.

      I can go on, but it’s quite obvious thinking isn’t your forte. And people say women are illogical. Lol

    • anon says:

      “”because women back then didn’t work out or play some kind of sports””

      lol maybe because the men weren’t borderline faggot millennials who need muscles on their man mimicking women to get off.

      • Mac says:

        “lol maybe because the men weren’t borderline faggot millennials who need muscles on their man mimicking women to get off.”

        good point.

        i don’t understand all the push towards women exercising all the time. and Canadian Friend is absolutely right. real feminine curves have been around forever and it’s mostly genetics. and in my opinion, also related to diet and the overall health of the woman.

        there have always been healthy, feminine women. especially in the past. we all know this. they were thinner, healthier, more feminine, and shapely. and they certainly weren’t going to the gym several times a week.

        sure, working out will thin down an overweight woman but so will a good healthy diet. and controlling weight with diet instead of exercise will maintain more of her luscious femininity than exercise ever will.

        the girls who stay thin mostly by working out almost always tend towards the masculine side, in appearance and personality wise. not attractive to me in the least.

      • Captain Obvious says:

        The Eskimo Within, outraged at the sight of all those slender graceful elegant non-DIVERSE non-TATT’ED non-BELUGA’ED pure-blood lily-White Christian Shiksa witches – outraged that the memory of such a Glorious and Wonderful Epoch hasn’t yet been completely written out of the history books. Mirabile Visu!!! Mirabile Dictu!!!

      • The Spirit Within says:

        Captain Obvious:

        I didn’t even comment on this thread, moron. But you keep right on lying about me if it satisfies something deep and twisted within you.

        The nurse with the cart just rolled up with your meds.

      • Captain Obvious says:

        Are you still being paid by Axelrod and Sunstein, or are the checks now coming from Sidney Blumenthal? BTW, I hear that the Bernie Sanders campaign is hiring…

    • Cortesar says:

      How about these ones asshole
      Sure I removed all swastika tattoos before posting and other NAHZY symbols

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      • The Spirit Within says:

        It’s all academic. We’ll never know the typical woman from any era.

        Captain Obvious, stop posting idiotic stills from Hollywood productions. They’re totally irrelevant.

      • Captain Obvious says:

        *** The Eskimo Within, outraged at the sight of all those slender graceful elegant non-DIVERSE non-TATT’ED non-BELUGA’ED pure-blood lily-White Christian Shiksa witches – outraged that the memory of such a Glorious and Wonderful Epoch hasn’t yet been completely written out of the history books. Mirabile Visu!!! Mirabile Dictu!!! ***

    • Rum says:

      “Women back then did not work out”???
      How about because they were always too tired from doing the hard physical work that nearly everyone did unless they had a lot of servants.

      Look at a crowd scene from America even 40 years ago. Compare it to today. Then try to remain optimistic about anything at all regarding the future..

      • HR Lincoln says:

        Could not possibly agree more.

        Many Dairy Queens have a mural in them that covers an entire wall. It shows a crowd at an event at a DQ in Hot Springs, Arkansas back in the early 1950’s. I wish everyone could take a good look at it. An America which no longer exists. Nice clean white folks, well-behaved, having a good time, women out in public wearing non-slutty dresses, and not a fatty in the bunch.

        Here’s the best I can do with a link to it:
        http://globegazette.com/news/local/dairy-queen-detective-solves-a-mystery/article_edc5b426-addc-5f84-93dc-868fb3d04170.html

      • Yes, one is struck by all the sensible-looking chaps in hats and business suits looking as if they had a purpose.

      • James Blonde says:

        An America which no longer exists. Nice clean white folks, well-behaved, having a good time,
        ——————————————————————————-

        why do you care if its all gonna burn while you sit poolside?

        what is the purpose of these kinds of articles?

        demoralization?

      • Captain Obvious says:

        HR Lincoln, watch the original 1984 Terminator, which keeps playing on BBC America late at night. It’s almost 100% WHITE PEOPLE:

    • Signor Farfalla says:

      “Cherrypick the ugly fatsos”…???

      Who needs to ‘cherrypick’? More like walk by the tree with a donut in your hand and hordes of them will fall out of it.

    • ole rusty cock says:

      Jeez..I think chateau has finally gained enough popularity, that the loons and hivemind sloot chasers have started to come hang out and even post. The troll smells strong, but I’ll bite just for the sake of the hapless newb who may read these comments.

      The women in 1925 didnt need to “workout” and fuck hot guys. They were what we call feminine. Eating less, dancing (not twerking) and maybe tennis lessons…but no cross-fit trendy scull tattoos needed. Girls need to also know, that us guys like feminine (including soft curves..not fat) we are not impressed with your 130lb dead lift, we do not get hot for your grrrrl power faux attempt at being an alpha girl. Being fit and fem is good.. being vascular, ripped or heavily tattood reminds one of a tranny or maybe a sloot with daddy issues who needs a hug.

    • B says:

      This is average vs. average as a commentary on how things have changed. Take a look at old photographs if you aren’t able to remember as recently as the 1980s. The sizes of the women are actually pretty representative for their eras. Hardly cherry picked in that regard. The posing of the modern photo might be cherry picked. I would hope it is but even if it is it symbolizes the crudeness that has overtaken everything.

      As to preferences of women then or now, well back then the distribution about the mean was really tight. Almost all women at or near the average of the time. Today there’s been a mean shift towards larger women and the distribution is wider. There’s a lot more out towards the ‘hot’ end (because of working out and more) but even more towards the opposite side because of the mean shift. So yeah, maybe you didn’t find the really hot women very often in the 1920s but the average was more fit (from work rather than working out) and the really ugly and huge weren’t so common either.

      If a mate were chose with a dice roll, 1925 would be sensible choice.

      • Glengarry says:

        Cherrypicking: For calibration, in the roaring 20s, not even a whore’s wedding would have looked like the fatso pic. Human garbage.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      This kind of shit really sounds so much butthurt MGTOW needing to bash women because they can’t get laid with hot sloots

      What are you, some kind of South Park asshole for whom muh-dik is the be-all, end-all?

      And with the Cathedral shaming language to boot, alleged red-pill boy?

      Did it escape your peabrain that these photos are WEDDING photos? And one has to ask oneself, of which set of women would one want any of the subjects (barring the flower girl, of course) to be the mother of one’s children and the keeper of one’s hearth.

      You fairy.

      (((shakin’ mah haid)))

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Would you honestly fuck any of the 1925 women?

      They may look old-fashioned, but they still got dated.

  6. youknowexactlywho says:

    Google brought me here. I will manage my ptsd and overcome.

  7. Skinner says:

    Why go back ninety years? You could go back to much more recently – say the Fifties or the Seventies even – and produce much the same kind of contrast.
    The main issue isn’t that something like this hamplanet collective exists nowadays, but that it is the norm, and almost ubiquitous. That’s what sets this pic apart from 1925, 1955, and even 1975.

  8. irish savant says:

    It’s all been planned for a long time. Willi Munzenberg’s proposed solution was to “organise the intellectuals and use them to make Western civilisation stink. Only then, after they have corrupted all its values and made life impossible, can we impose the dictatorship of the proletariat”.

    The Frankfurt School took up the mantle after Willi was offed by Beria’s apparatchiks.

  9. Arbiter says:

    Gotta post a few things from a World’s Worst Parents collection, though I expect most of the posts with pictures with links will be WordPressed away:

    http://runt-of-the-web.com/worlds-worst-parents-2

      • Arbiter says:

        WordPress mess. Because the first post is stuck in moderation, the posts in reply to it show up as separate and not part of a thread.

        Here’s the first pic again:

      • lcs says:

        This is what Justice Kennedy in his majority opinion meant by the ‘dignity of free persons’.

      • Captain Obvious says:

      • Captain Obvious says:

        iPhag addiction pwns newborn baby?!?!?

      • Captain Obvious says:

        ^^^ For at least six members of the SCROTUS.

      • mmaier2112 says:

        Add all of Congress and the heads of the Executive Branch and you have a deal!

      • automatthew says:

        Dat admixture.

      • Carlos Danger says:

        You scoff at religion, but it is important for the bottom 50% most of all.

      • Anonymous says:

        This pic still makes me rage.

        fuck trophy attention whoring at its best

      • John YaYa says:

        Assuming Americans can stop watching feetsball and put down the pisswater lager long enough to clean house, the guillotine maintenance contract would be a good one to have.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        So much for that Aryan Supremacy idea… sigh.

      • Anonymous says:

        There it is Arbiter. Best photograph depicting the decline – we’ve seen thus far.

      • anon33 says:

        Speaking of this great graphic, it’s perfect: on the subject of the bailout (or not) of the Jewish banks (which is the great problem of our times and can never be OT), the Greeks just showed us how to do it.

        Folks, we do not need to use the Jewish fiat money system.

        Of course, the Greeks put the vote to the people. Had that been done in 2008 in the United States, the result would have been the same and a real recovery would be going strong by now.

        As it was, the U.S. Congress was bought and is owned, of course, by…. the Jewish banks!!! Funny how that works. Even so, because of overwhelming public (slave) opposition (we are not stupid), the first vote, the US House, the people’s house, voted down the Jewish Bank Bailout about 365-70.

        After that, the Jewlluminati was forced to come into the light, literally, and they threatened the members’ wives and children and forced a magic re-vote the next day and, abra cadabra (just like when the famous Jew Houdini did magic), the House reversed itself one day later!!! And thereby the Jewish Bank Bailout happened in the U.S. in the fall of 2008, just before the 2008 Obama election, after both Obama and McCain were forced to come out in favor of the bailout (Ron Paul was silenced, of course).

        The reason I said the people are not stupid a few paragraphs above is that I’m referring to the laughable reasons that CNN et al gave the public for the bailout: “you won’t be able to get a car loan” and stupid shit like that. Guess what — we already have a car. It is Chase, CitiBank, Bank of America, Wachovia, and Wells Fargo that were going to collapse — they would be dead, no longer able to pursue foreclosure and repo actions. Duh. We knew that. It’s the fiat banks that need to make loans, not us that needs them. They literally STOLE wealth that we, the people, already have, and have earned through our labor — the banks print their own fiat money at 0% interest then “lend” it back to us (lending us back our own value) at 3.5% (homes), 12% or 18% (credit cards), 5.9% (cars) — lzolzozlzozozo — that was our wealth in the first place.

        The people know that. Greece just proved it.

        lzozlozlzozlzolzozlzoz

      • anon33 says:

        agreed

      • Carlos Danger says:

        Talk to a social services nurse sometime. Part of their training is teaching these new mothers to show interest in their children.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Competition for that contract would be cut-throat.

      • corvinus says:

        The father is either a lesser beta or an omega.

      • Arbiter says:

        You scoff at religion, but it is important for the bottom 50% most of all.

        There’s that Xtian arrogance again, pretending that his religion has a monopoly on whatever value the Xtian likes (varying from Xtian to Xtian and contradicting each other). No, the feminine, anti-White worm religion did not invent dignity or duty. The feminine, anti-White worm religion did invent socialism however, with its propaganda about “all men are brothers in Christ”, “the first shall be the last and the last shall be the first” (because the strong are evil for being stronger than you), “the meek shall inherit the earth” (because being weak automatically makes you good), “it is easier for a camel to pass through the needle of an eye than for a rich man to enter heaven” and so forth. Marxism is just the secular version of Xtianity, taking its slave morality to its logical conclusion: attack the strong, attack the conquerors, because they are evil.

        And so we get this undignified, depraved world. Where the Xtian idea of fighting for dignity is to crawl on the ground before an “altar” and kiss African feet. While declaring that the people in these pictures are “brothers and sisters” who must be “forgiven”.

      • corvinus says:

        There’s that Xtian arrogance again, pretending that his religion has a monopoly on whatever value the Xtian likes (varying from Xtian to Xtian and contradicting each other). No, the feminine, anti-White worm religion did not invent dignity or duty.

        @Arbiter
        JencPak Shakur, is that you?

        What a complete load of crap. That’s not Christianity, that’s a hyper-humanitarian, hyper-calvinistic mockery of Christianity.

        Real Christianity launches the Crusades and takes over the world.

      • Observasaurus Rex says:

        I’m no fan of religion, but if the crusades had done their job right, we would have a lot more peace in the world and at least 2 more buildings in NY.

  10. The above is child abuse.

  11. no says:

    How do we somehow get those two to combine?

  12. duderino says:

    I’m on the anti-tattoos and fat bandwagon, but some of those women from the 20’s look like dudes. It appears puberty must have started much later back then.

    • Foolish Pride says:

      It did.

    • CarpeOro says:

      Do even a little research and you’ll get the answer yes to that question. With all the estrogens in the water and steroids foods puberty is starting earlier.

      • Ecosse says:

        And the endless amount of sexuality that the magazines and TV feature. You don’t think about what your unaware of. 50 years ago it was very rare for high school girls to get pregnant. Now lots of high school girls get knocked up. Sex-ed has definitely shown the way.

    • Captain Obvious says:

      They’re also a reasonably wealthy family – that’s a lavish wedding, there’s a very nice portrait-sized photo on the wall, there’s a piano in the parlor, and there is very nice woodworking [oak, possibly mahogany] on the bannister of the staircase. Frankly, the two youngest girls, closest to the piano, look mildly Eskimo-ish. Point being that wealth correlates with IQ which correlates with high-T which correlates with less-than-fully feminine features. But none of them look like sluts [except for the one at the very top of the staircase, who reminds me of Jack Nicholson’s old squeeze, Lara Flynn Boyle].

  13. Glen says:

    fweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeduuuuuuuuuuuuuumb!

  14. coolcono says:

    I bet their kids would like to see that photo. Bring it up 15 years later. 🙂

  15. coolcono says:

    I bet their kids would like to see those photos….

  16. coolcono says:

    There was a girl who had “I love Sex” posted on her facebook wall. She had a kid and it mysteriously vanished. Where did the post go?

  17. How the f is any of this dignified?

  18. jgarveyrose says:

    Good God man! Trigger warnings, please?!?. I think my eyes are bleeding.

  19. samseau says:

    Joke nation

  20. whorefinder says:

    Thank you for giving me a reason to drink.

    On a Sunday, no less!

    America rape!

  21. The women back in those days(1920’s) went to the good Doctor for their treatment of hysteria. The Doctor cured them by giving them orgasms. The vibrator was invented in 1880 because physicians hands were so cramped from treating women for their hysteria.

    • John YaYa says:

      Who bitch this is?

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Somebody’s been watching too many Cathedral movies… and thinking they’re documentaries.

      • Oh, poppycock. I get information out of books too. Here is a fine example of how some thinking never advances when it comes to females. It is a procedure called version. That’s when a baby is breech and the Doctors make you lay flat on your back and they dig their paws into your nine month belly trying to turn the baby. Doctors have used this technique for centuries. You would think, they would realize after a couple centuries, that we have something here on earth called gravity. Doctors create a situation where gravity works against their actions. How do I know this?
        1) I had a breech baby.
        2) I have books from the 19th century that states and shows how to perform the version.
        Then there’s the my Donna way. My daughter was feet first breech. This is the most dangerous because the umbilical cord strangles the child during birth, like a noose. I turned my own child by letting gravity work with me instead of against me. I did it by going doggie style. I applied pressure on her head and forced her counterclockwise to flip downwards. It worked like a charm. I did that 30 years ago. You would think Doctors would get a clue. Nope. They still have ladies on their back, because that’s the way it’s taught even though it hardly ever works.
        You are very wrong about me. I have lots of common sense. I am financially stable thinking woman. I believe in being debt free and paying my bills. My hubby and I restore classic cars and I help him. I find it rewarding to fix problems. Most women have no clue about engines or drive trains. They don’t know what it means to turn the crank, adjust the rockers, adjust the float, replace the clutch, rod bearings, pistons, drivelines and yada yada. That does even include the fact that I even understand the difference between pi and pie. I can read and understand a schematics and blueprints. I ca calculate my BTU loss when sizing up a heat system for my home that we built. I can turn in receiver into a transmitter and visa versa. I have my bimbo moments but who doesn’t? All you guys have me pegged wrong and I am just as smart or smarter than most of you guys. It really pisses men off to be outwitted by a woman. I am a half Viking woman so I think it’s genetic. I am very strong willed, brave and beautiful all wrapped into one.
        Wow… There is something about the Doctoring field that made me bring that up to you. I wonder? Hmm. I need to go check my google+…See ya… Have a wonderful day Greg. 🙂

      • I have been talking to a friend whom I thought was Fred but he is really a Greg on my Google+. He is a Pediatrician like my son-in-law. Your name triggered my thoughts on my last comment to you. I apologize to you for getting long winded. Have a great day again.

      • driveallnight says:

        Dunno about it being a troll, GE, but it’s good enough that somebody might buy the bridge it lives under.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Geez, Louise… if only the chateau could get a donation for every first person singular pronoun in the (ahem) “lady” posts.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        It really pisses men off to be outwitted by a woman.

        I wouldn’t know.

      • PS: Anonymous is right and wrong. I am a woman but I am a Lady too. I love my husband and I am a good wife. I would appreciate it, if you would quit referring to me as a man. I do have five children. I also have six grandchildren. I am 53 and I look damn good for my age. I work out dancing and I dance quite well. I also live on 53 Acres in the country in Washington State..
        Some of you guys are just plain mean and bullies. Take care Greg and thank you guys for teaching me about Alpha men. 🙂

      • Anonymous says:

        Chin like that… and yet a “lady”… You be the judge.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        If that actually is the poster, well… I’d say the jury’s still out.

        I sussed him out as a queer troll, and that’s an odd tranny-like visage there, to my eye.

      • James Blonde says:

        Do you have big boobs?

      • I was divorced mom before I met my 3rd hubby at 23. I had three children when I started college under the age four. My 1st hubby was a beater and my second was a cheater. I happened at that age to look like Marilyn Monroe. I deserved better than Richard heads in my life. I was damaged goods because men like you damaged women like me. It’s called too hot to handle! With the Love of God and a Good Man, I got put back together again. When you break a bone and it heals, the bone becomes stronger.
        Dissing me behind my back shows you are not much of a man and I do not find it respectful. I read your comments here and I have come to the conclusion most of you men in here can’t hold on to a good woman let alone capture a good one. Have a good life GREG ELIOT!!!!!!

      • PS. Half my life. I never said all my life. You should learn to read. I met my hubby in Sept of 1985.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        I was damaged goods because men like you damaged women like me. It’s called too hot to handle!

        I’m sure many a man has burned his fingers on you.

      • James Blonde says:

        do you have a nice rack?

      • theasdgamer says:

        Thwack, back to ur Big Black-O Rack Attack?

  22. chris says:

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  23. Capper says:

    Horrific tattoos: noticed!

  24. JayMan says:

    As I recall the lifting dress thing are from porn films and don’t represent any real trend.

    • 88 says:

      sadly you are wrong.

      people are doing this all the time now for their wedding photos. i’ve seen photos like these on social media from actual acquaintances of mine.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Wasn’t it a suggestive cheerleader move of recent vintage?

      I believe Valerie Perrine and another actress mimicked it in the movie The Border.

      • 88 says:

        yep, definitely started with the cheerleaders. i have yearbook photos with our cheerleading squad doing this exact thing. classy.

        that’s why you never marry cheerleaders or sorority girls. they are the attention whore/sloots of their peer groups.

  25. Well, most of the ladies in the 1925 photo are actually handsome and nonfat when looking at it with more attention.
    It is the skanks in the 2014 photo who are disconcertingly ugly, probably also from within.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      Exactly…

      The point of this pictorial thread is that these are wedding photos.

      Of the collection of gals in both pictures, who do you choose as the mother of your children and the keeper of your hearth and home?

  26. castricv says:

    Not to disagree with point of this, but I would bang the one on the far right like a piece of meat. She is clearly a three hole slut…on the first date.

    • Captain Obvious says:

      Why does the one in the middle – presumably the BRIDE herself – have that little tear in her red underwear very near her, ah, “Pink Eye”? Kinduva a rhetorical question, but, ah, if I were the Groom, and if it were my wedding night, I’d be all, “Uh, honey, how did you rip up your undies so badly?”

    • Greg Eliot says:

      She looks at least 45 to me… and that toothy grin! Reminds me of when American Pharoah headed down the home stretch at Belmont.

    • Signor Farfalla says:

      That’s actually just physical health on display. These days in Angloville, that merits national media attention. This isn’t nearly the miracle that it has ended up being. Also, she needs to hit the squat rack.

      • ole rusty cock says:

        Something looks off. Her more or less Anglo name ( though Jacobs is common Anglosized Hebe name for Jackowitz, Jokobowitz etc) look at her pic at 29, she looks like your typical big nosed curry bomb Hindu, and then the now pics look like a different person. Plus the only media more deceptive and completely suspect than US media is the UK media. What a load of bollocks those faggots are.

    • 88 says:

      @Greg Eliot

      that’s what 45 should look like and you’re obviously circulating in the right social circles if the women around you look that good in their 30s, 40s and 50s. unfortunately, in most areas of the country, even women in their 20s don’t look that good.

      and Signor farfalla is correct. this is just what good physical health looks like and it should be the norm not the exception. it’s sad that most women just don’t take such good care of themselves. this woman wouldn’t get so much attention if they did.

    • Skinner says:

      Yes, she’s healthy (unlike 99% of Britons), and yes, clearly of Bindi heritage. Also a coalburner, based on the hue of her crotchfruit. (One presumes that the surname is therefore her babydaddy’s.)
      +1 on the squat rack comment. Would still bang, though.

      • Mac says:

        i would bang too.

        you and Signor Farfalla are both right about the squat rack. looks like she’s definitely lacking in the hips/booty department.

  27. PA says:

    A standout illustration of “America then and now” occurs in The Shawshank Redemption’s scenes of Morgan Freeman’s parole hearings. “Then” scenes feature Freeman’s character shucking-n-jiving before serious, grim-faced White men who repeatedly deny him parole. “Now” scenes feature a soft-faced youngish parole board foreman who gets a dressing-down from Freeman, including getting called ‘boy’ and the parole is granted.

    • James Blonde says:

      The Shawshank parole scenes were pure gold because of the valuable lesson they taught; which you obviously missed.

      Can you tell the truth?

      Do you know its value?

      Everything else is unnecessary chatter.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        T-h-w-a-c-k thinks America After is better than America Before…

        Could be because the Before is his favorite lynching photo, and the after is Georgetown (ahem) students cheering the OJ verdict.

      • Arbiter says:

        Note how the thwack troll (now hiding behind the name “James Blonde”, too dumb to know that it should be “blond”) can’t explain WHAT would be “gold” about those scenes or what “valuable lessons” they supposedly contained. He just blurts it out there hoping it makes him look intelligent. Sadly, that ship sailed long ago. Thwack hasn’t contributed a single piece of information in all his trolling here.

      • James Blonde says:

        Arbiter
        Note how the thwack troll (now hiding behind the name “James Blonde”
        ——————————————————————-

        Nobody is hiding. my name was banned because you guys screamed like bitches to have it banned.

        You cried like faggots until CH banned my name.

        Now you are starting to cry like bitches again.

        The internet is so gay.

        [CH: and yet here you are, gaying it up along with the rest of them.]

      • Greg Eliot says:

        Actually, it got to the point where you annoyed even the long-suffering host of the chateau so grievously that he stepped in and administered discipline.

        And, as in your salad days, I see discipline still rankles you to butthurt petulance.

        You fairy.

    • elmer says:

      I like the scene in “Carnasaur” where the black sheriff challenges the rogue dinosaur : “Come on out heah Dinah. I got somthin fo yo ass!” before being eaten by the plastic lizard and thus saving the rest of the white cast.

    • PA says:

      Clearly, I got those scenes. You talk like a nog: quarrelsome and annoying.

  28. Anonymous says:

    great video by a kgb defector on how they subverted and brainwashed the west to accept leftism and cultural marxism by means of useful idiots

    • ole rusty cock says:

      Great video…scary and all too real.

      • Anonymous says:

        looks like soviet russia got off a lethal dose of poison to the us before it collapsed and have doomed the west to a slower, more agonising fall.

        ch you should make a post about this video, very very illuminating

  29. Aeroguy says:

    Flappers were the degenerates of their time. Between the prohibition dykes and short haired sluts the US has been reaping it’s rotten fruits.for far longer than people give it credit.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      The Roaring Twenties were American’s Weimar Republic, so to speak… you didn’t hear nuthin’ ’bout flappers and “It” girls in the Thirties.

      Easy money and soft times will always bring out the worst in folks… especially the wimmens.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      And yet the above Before picture was taken during the midst of the so-called Roaring Twenties.

      Like most history, it appears we may have been lied to in re just how roaring those times were, for average folk.

  30. John YaYa says:

    The 1925 pic is the world in which wimmin’s suffrage had only been ongoing for five years and the effects had yet to be felt, whereas 90 years later, we see them in full flower, so to speak.

  31. tspark156 says:

    Underwear flashing tattooed fat slags, classy.

    • Greg Eliot says:

      And underwear which, a mere generation or two earlier, only the most hardened of putane would sport outside of closed doors.

      • tspark156 says:

        That fact had not occurred to me, Good point.

      • Tam the Bam says:

        As the intra-female competition for Alpha splooge intensifies, due to the relentless infiltration of mass communication for the functionally illiterate in the form of images, and the consequent thinning of the numbers of situational alphas, it’s understandable that the dregs and no-hopers will use increasingly flamboyant artificial receptivity cues to signal wildly over the heads of the at-least-passably-attractive-and-upwards women crowding round the not so obscure object of their genuine desire and elbowing them to the margins of the Grand Clusterfuck.
        Wild and desperate signalling, but necessarily artificial. Because that’s all they’ve got. The other girls were born with it, naturally. Life ain’t Fair boo hoo!
        And even more Law, to inhibit betas through to omegas from looking in their direction or even being present in the same space-time continuum, a.k.a. creeping/raaayyype!. Because these not-even-homely idiots have been convinced that All Women Are Equal (And None Are Pigs, Strangely).

        Prepare the mind-bleach vats, chaps, as heffalumps with bulldog faces,remedial-art-class tattoos and blue hair will soon declare that parading down the street, going to bars, and even to their non-jobs in Encorpera completely naked apart from stripper shoes and (very necessary) near-asphyxiating perfume douses, while jamming themselves with dildos and rubbing up against any viable Man is their human right, and that compulsory clothing is the end-result of millions of years of brutal male oppression bla bla .. you know the script [all life’s losers have a special victimhood myth].

      • Greg Eliot says:

        If memory serves, Mandrills (the monkey’s who look like baboons but with an apple stuck in their ass) of the female sex do these exact kind of “look at my red ass” displays.

        A propos.

      • Tam the Bam says:

        Up to a point, m’lud, up to a point.
        I’d guess that the monkey-stiffie invoking power of each scarlet fanny is entirely relative and natural. Covariant with health, adequacy of nutrition, immune system, age, parasite load. All that jazz, and most importantly for all primates, hierarchical in-group status. Like (male) bird feathers, or horse and dog coat condition, posture and so on), and therefore a true and instantly discernable signal of the mating value of each critter.
        The complete inverse of a grimacing ham haystack losing a fight with a curtain procured from a pikey’s caravan, as seen in the coloured picture up top.

      • Greg Eliot says:

        An excellent observation…

        It was unfair for me to compare the perfectly natural and healthful activities of one species to the vagaries of another.

        I apologize to simians everywhere.

  32. Interest rates are going to be slashed lower in Canada. The debt bubble party is only beginning to end.

    Toronto and Vancouver have the most bizarre real estate bubbles in the Western hemisphere, it’s a surprise that no one is searching for food in trash cans yet.

    Meanwhile, the Torontonian feminists are busy complaining that they are oppressed with their 80,000$ a year non-profit or teacher job.

    Stay Single Toronto…

  33. martin says:

    Even upper class people have degenerated despite being associated with more conservative tastes. They might not have tattoos but they do still lose their virginity at 14, smoke marijuana with their grandmother and take selfies of it, and go to music fests where they experiment with drugs and sex.

  34. anonymous says:

    Was messing around and used an aggressive opener… she commented “that’s an aggressive opener, you must not have good game” I replied, “this isn’t the special Olympics is it”

  35. zodak says:

    i always wonder why those pathetic losers choose to marry those tatooed sluts. they are already banging them, why bother exposing themselves to divorce.

  36. Putin says:

    Wow, the shit tests were flying at the family get together this past weekend. Left With both guns a blazing while still staying in good humor.

  37. There are s few young women in the office with tattoos, and they’re gorgeous as hell. Alas, they’re a bit crazy, too, as one would expect.

    • 88 says:

      gorgeous as hell maybe but how proud would you feel with one of those tatted up chicks on your arm at a family wedding or at an upscale social event? i know i wouldn’t.

      it’s a shame what these girls to their bodies. they complain that no decent, successful, respectable men will have them but it’s all under their own control and they can’t even see it.

  38. peterike says:

    I used my magical time travel powers to take a survey of both groups of six women (leaving out the young girl in the first pic).

    Total number of lifetime sexual partners within each group at time of photo.
    Group 1: less than five
    Group 2: hundreds

    Total number of non-white sexual partners.
    Group 1: zero
    Group 2: dozens

    Total number of venereal diseases obtained.
    Group 1: one
    Group 2: 47

    Frequency of getting drunk:
    Group 1: once or twice a year, tipsy
    Group 2: shit-faced 51 weekends a year and many days in-between

    Literary knowledge of each group:
    Group 1: a wide range of British and American classic literature and poetry
    Group 2: Twilight, Harry Potter and 50 Shades

    Average length of courtship before sexual intimacy:
    Group 1: six months
    Group 2: 1.2 dates

    Average number of white children produced over lifetime:
    Group 1: four
    Group 2: 0.6

    Average number of mix-raced children produced over lifetime:
    Group 1: zero
    Group 2: 1.3

  39. theasdgamer says:

    I have identified a “Tormented Love” body language signal. See my post about it at

    https://theasdgamer.wordpress.com/2015/07/06/the-tormented-love-body-language-signal/

  40. Nahv says:

    http://www.vulture.com/2015/07/malia-obama-is-interning-with-lena-dunham.html

    Obama’s daughter is Lena Dunham’s new intern.
    lozlzozlzozlzolz

    • Arbiter says:

      And reporters marry White House operatives. And go to the Clintons’ horse-faced daughter’s wedding. And she marries, of course, a Tribe member, just like both her parents had/have close Tribe advisors and receive funding from them.

      It’s the same in Europe actually, socialist politicians hanging out with reporters and editors in their free time. Even those reporters and editors who come from “right-wing” news rags.

      Just in case anyone still doesn’t think there is an establishment. Call it the Cathedral or what you will.

  41. theasdgamer says:

    Question for YaReally, HABD, et. al.

    A woman in my social circle who has flaked on me, told me not to text her anymore, and said that we don’t have to dance together any more was friendly to me during a dance lesson. I ignored her that night and she showed “Tormented Love” body language when she saw me walking towards her. (I recently wrote a post about this.)

    What was going on in her mind? Did she think that I wouldn’t ignore her? Or was she surprised by her own feelings?

    • no says:

      I have had this same problem with a woman in my social cirlce for years. It’s a weird problem I never can fix. I have tried almost everything. I did have her on the ropes very early on and then did not pull the trigger so she probably will always veiw me in that light no matter what. She goes hot and cold all the time. Big help I am today.

    • theasdgamer says:

      Thinking some more about this, I think that maybe the woman asking me to not text her any more and suggesting that we don’t need to dance together was just some temporary spite because, in the moment, she hated it that she loves me.

      • Captain Obvious says:

        ASD, learn psychiatry and psychology – Cluster A, Cluster B, Cluster C, and Non-Specified – this on/off hot/cold d!ck-tease nonsense might be symptomatic of something much more serious. Try teasing her about what meds she’s taking [but you need to know your SSRIs and Benzodiazipines and sleeping pills and whatnot]. On the other hand, if she’s fully clean and sound of mind, then SHE’S GAMING YOU.

      • theasdgamer says:

        She’s probably gaming me. Next.

      • theasdgamer says:

        Thought about this some more. The body language tell makes it clear that the woman has a heavy emotional investment in me. Of course, that doesn’t prevent her from being cray-cray. She could just be very subtle about her shenanigans.

        I think that my basic plan of ignoring her unless she apologizes is sound.

  42. Mario says:

    Fattest chick is either busy eating something or cannot even lift her limbs to raise skirt…eh I mean she disregards the oppressive, sexist (f/m ratio), racist (no diversity) and homophobic (…) display in front of her

  43. PA says:

    The organizing principle of the United States of America is to be your worst and most ridiculous self. This makes the country, in this particular respect, even worse than North Korea. In my personal experience, worse than a Soviet Block country, where traditional virtue was taught in schools and on television.

    A legitimate USA would counsel its young to be their best selves. Modern America does the exact opposite, therefore modern America is illegitimate.

  44. Ohiomega says:

    OT, but meta to everything this site is about: Move! Join us in the Heartland!, because you know the Coming Conflict will have two fronts: the Appalachians and the Rockies. If you’re not between them when tSHtF, you’ll be stuck behind enemy lines.

  45. tspark156 says:

    A thought occurred to me after I read the update and saw Greg Elliot’s reply to my comment. Sufferage and vital war work took women out of their normal societal placing and the Licentiousness of the twenties, that CH uses as a comparative to today was different in the sense that, “the saucy flappers” (from the privileged classes) of the twenties were outwardly respectable and the trickle down effect had a role in giving ordinary girls and young unmarried women a chastity and innocence to aspire to. Today’s skank has it all blazoned across the surface literally and metaphorically. There is no illusion of demure and charming shyness about the post milenium slut, and that is what is fundamentally different this time around. Hypocracy is no longer paid in tribute to virtue by vice.

  46. […] America, Then And Now | Chateau Heartiste […]

  47. Greg Eliot says:

    It seems no commenters got the underlying message of this edition of “America, Then and Now”. The 1920s were a high (or low) water mark of sexual licentiousness and decadence in the US.

    What am I, chopped liver? Check out my remarks on the Roaring Twenties. 😡

  48. Mike says:

    Is “demure” even a word anymore?

    • Greg Eliot says:

      It’s still a word, but the exhibits thereof are now all behind glass in museums.

    • peterike says:

      Maybe the Progs can hijack demure like they hijacked “gay,” at one time a very useful word that expressed a very real thing.

      Since demure can = shy, bashful, etc. perhaps we can have it come to mean “the object of bullying.”

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