A grateful reader writes to say thanks to the demidongle of CH for changing his love life for the better,
I have to start out by saying thank you for this site. It has certainly opened my eyes and cured me of my societal conforming. Like most men I have had a couple good relationships, a couple bad, and some flings, ons’s in between. Your typical guy if you will. To preface this e-mail I had a 7y relationship as a young man and a couple year and a half ones up until this point. The first one taught me a lot about life, love etc. the ones that followed them were shit. In July of this year I met my current gf. After assessing this relationship time and time again I realize she is one of those girls that needs a guy in control, but if you’re not, she fucking hates you and the resentment infects her body like the plague. Ive seen both sides of it. Her undying affection and love; and her seething resentment. Her dad was absent in her life therefore she tends to overcompensate with the “control” of her life. She’s never trusted anyone to take care of her but herself. A wall to break through for sure.
Im one of those guys who learned to not care too much about the women I didn’t care about (naturally), and care a lot for the ones I do care for. So an aloof alpha when it didn’t matter, and a beta when it does. [ed: a common male malady] So I got into this relationship and things went fantastically for a few months and then she started in on me about things. From how we were before in the honeymoon phase I just figured well I’ll do what she wants and Ill be fine. Wrong. I couldn’t figure out why she was still requiring more from me after doing what she wanted. She was still unhappy. “you aren’t doing this”, “you aren’t doing that” “I cant live like this”… So I supplicated more, and more, until my brain was going to explode from the confusion. We had a few blow out fights that was basically my frustration for her unhappiness exploding, and her continuing to complain. I told her “you ask me to leap and I fucking leap, what the hell else do you want me to do?”. But she would still tell me that she loved me even though at the same time she was telling me she was unhappy and treating me like a doormat. She never stopped telling me she loved me. Which probably confused me more. My fight or flight response was on FLIGHT but something kept me there..
So I was fed up, had no solution to the problem, I do love her and with my mr fix it attitude in full effect along with my commitment and resiliency.. I needed a solution. So I found your site… read the commandments. Read the beta/ alpha posts. Keeping attraction in a relationship. The story about the experiment with the husband and wife was especially eye opening. So from reading a lot of the posts that pertained to myself I decided to do what seemed counter intuitive. I chilled the fuck out, mentally strengthened myself and decided to love her fully even through her storm of emotions. One of the commandments states:
“Her emotions are a hurricane, her soul a saboteur. Think of yourself as a bulwark against her tempest. When she grasps for a pillar to steady herself against the whipping winds or yearns for an authority figure to foil her worst instincts, it is you who has to be there… strong, solid, unshakeable and immovable.”
So I stopped supplicating to everything. I started defending myself. She’d ask me what I wanted and then shit test me with “well why would you do it like that, that makes no sense, that’s stupid” So I said “you asked me what I wanted, I told you, and you aren’t happy with that. Don’t want my opinion, don’t ask for it” she just about fell over. I stood my ground. She left for work pissed but I didn’t go after her. I ignored it. She called me about 2 hours later to make sure everything was ok and was overjoyed to talk about what we were going to do that night for dinner. It was peculiar but I just went along with it. She came home and was like an excited girl again. A small victory. And a promising insight into her psyche. There have been many times since then (about 3 weeks ago) that she’s done the same and I’ve stood my ground. In that time she’s gone from seething resentment to joyful love again, which I enjoy along with the increase in fucking that has come because of it.
The last thing I’d like to say is that the guy I’ve been for the last month since finding your site is the guy I have always been. I just thought that since I cared so much that I needed to conform to her wishes to make her happy. But she just wanted a man who was a fucking man and was going to put her back into her place. In turn that made her love even more, and come after me. She was testing my ability to lead the relationship and I was failing. She knows exactly what shes doing, and so do I, I just didn’t understand it. She was shit testing me every fucking day. So I stopped coming after her about what is wrong, why she’s quiet, just let her fucking be. The other day sitting on the couch she looks at me and says “I need you” I said “ok”, “no like I need you, I don’t know what I would do without you”…
Shes crazy. But my ultimate success is taming her, it’s a fucking game. It always is. I get off on it as sadistic as that seems.
Thanks Chateau Heartiste. You rock. You can use my story but please no personal information. And just because I know you get a lot of trolls I can tell you I most certainly am not. Hopefully some shit made sense in my rambling. Thanks again.
When strangers seeking answers amble across Chateau grounds and peer into its dusty libraries, two kinds of reactions follow:
1. Screeching and shrieking about the horror of this place, or
2. Solemn thanks of appreciation for saving a life.
Some people you just can’t reach. But some… they’re ready to be happy. The door is always open for them.
His story could be mine, but the gf I had then was a much worse bitch. Tamed her anyway, with your guidance.
Then got the hell free and beat feet for the Fields of Snatch. Thanks.
“beat feet for the Fields of Snatch”
not since the lost gunslinger have i read more beautiful prose
No buns in her oven? Shame
Incredible work.
This post and the one about Dave from Hawaii need to be mandatory readings for any man entering an LTR.
To go further, the mentality that’s learned from both posts is a way to level up your interactions with women.
Dave from Hawaii post:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/relationship-game-week-a-readers-journey/
Taming a difficult, shit testing woman is great fun. When an irresistible force meets an unmovable object, the result is fireworks. And tingles. Lots of tingles.
> “I stood my ground. She left for work pissed but I didn’t go after her. I ignored it. She called me about 2 hours later to make sure everything was ok and was overjoyed to talk about what we were going to do that night for dinner. It was peculiar but I just went along with it. She came home and was like an excited girl again. A small victory. And a promising insight into her psyche.”
LOL’ed.
> “There have been many times since then (about 3 weeks ago) that she’s done the same and I’ve stood my ground. In that time she’s gone from seething resentment to joyful love again, which I enjoy along with the increase in fucking that has come because of it.”
If some filthy damned YKW psychobabbling conman, on a 30-minute infomercial for his product, were to tell you that he could teach you how to get very noticeable improvements in your own lovelife within a mere two hours, and, using the very same methods, how to completely pwn your own lovelife within only 3 weeks, and if you actually believed the YKW to be speaking the truth, and if you were ready and willing to send him the YKW-geld, then how much would you pay for his videotape?
$49.95?
$149.95?
$499.95?
Rediscovering your own masculinity – or simply just REMEMBERING that you ever had a sense of masculinity in the first place – might be the single most positive step which you can ever take towards improving your own lot in life.
An afternoon spent perusing the Man-o-Sphere, and thinking about the lessons to be gained therefrom, is worth infinitely more than a year of your time and $10,000 spent on “marriage counseling”*.
Also, the little real-life examples which dudes post to the Chateau are simply priceless.
Learn the theory.
Then memorize the real-life examples.
*Which really ought to be called ANTI-marriage counseling.
Do you have a link for that one IM?
And what story was he refering to regarding: “The story about the experiment with the husband and wife was especially eye opening”.
right here:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/12/20/a-woman-needs-a-man-to-put-her-in-her-place/
copy and paste to search bar:
A Woman Needs A Man To Put Her In Her Place
:,)
Next semester: Alpha advanced 101
Instructor: WF
Course name: Rape!!!!!
That’s a good story. Glad to hear he was helped. Guys really need to become men. We get too little encouragement to grow up these days, and become to passive, take too little responsibility for ourselves and our relationships. We should always strive to improve and be the kind of man who can lead, and lead well.
All this shit testing and bad behavior from women should not be tolerated though I don’t think. It’s not just men not being men, it’s women not being women as well.
“it’s women not being women as well”
I would argue it actually is women being women because they are shit testing to try give the guy a chance to man up. They go up and up and up until it simply bursts. Women are biologically programmed to this.
They shit test, we smack it down. Simple as that. Night follows day.
And feminism, women’s suffrage, etc., are shit tests that we have collectively failed.
If even the Spartans failed their shit test, what hope have we?
Ak 47′s and Nukes.
And Guantanamo bay for the worst ones.
Nonsense, women will shit test you if they are interested in you. Blowing those shit tests out of the water is how attraction is built
Women need to shit test you. The more you pass them…the less they do it.
The more you fail…the worse they become.
Yeah but I think women shit test men a lot more today because the culture is so influenced by feminism and misandrist attitudes.
Exactly. Feminism has created a demand for more and more alpha men. Shit testing is one way to find them.
See my whole thing is I know that this is true but it would just make me hate the bitch and want to get a new one.
domestic violence game FTW! Oh, and rape!
Aint there any bitches out there who are simply nice and easy to get along with?? (And hot,o’course…)
No.
Negative.
Nope
Not if she’s attracted to you. That’s not the nature of attraction. Being nice and easy to get along with is like being a big dog. Her role is to be a yapping puppy.
If she’s not attracted to you, of course, it’s much worse.
No.
Nice women do exist, but they are as rare as a $10 million winning number lottery ticket…
It is better to learn to deal with the bitchiness and irrationality of women than to try to find a non-bitchy one who is rational.
I’ve come to understand that being a non bitchy, rational woman is the worst possible thing a woman could be. It is barely a woman. It strives to unmake men by making things easier for them.
We were raised by very well intentioned alpha dads who instilled in us the importance of obedience, and made it very easy for us to do. We forever seek that man who is as worthy of complete or near complete trust and obedience like our father.
…but we need to challenge you so that you have to earn us, and we need you to scare us so we earn you. It’s the spice in the dish…the little bit of pain in the pleasure. Without it, a relationship is boring and little more than a business transaction.
I bored my first husband this way. If I had to do it over again, I’d have been extremely difficult until he punished me for it a few times. He’d have to struggle for every inch of compliance…but the way to go about this isn’t by trying to be a man…more like an octopus. A woman should be slippery and a guy should have to secure every bit that he wants to keep within his grasp at all. Once you drag us from the sea, every choice that isn’t the safety of your bucket should feel like the cooking pot.
Negress, please… could your hamster grow any bigger?
One of the biggest complaints of your men is that you negresses are true harridans… as you’ve exhibited all-too-many-times here… in spades (pun intended.
And now you’re here rationalizing it as something to be admired and emulated, lest men get bored?
Christ Almighty, not even YOU could possibily believe such tripe.
(Fark, every time I figure I’d just continue ignoring this black flake she comes out with something that demands more than a shakin’ of de haid.)
I agree with her though: too nice can be boring. Men like a little zip
Greg, it amazes me that someone so ready to point out the differences between “races” would show such denial that different cultures have different mating dances. Also, I specifically stated that being manly or a “harridan” was not the way. Being difficult for the underqualified to ensnare, and being a harpy who repels everything are different things.
…but let us explore, shall we, what dating and shagging out of pity has earned the African woman.
Fuck all. So I don’t recommend it. Just as a woman should be holding up her end, a man should be holding up his, and whoever isn’t holding up is not worthy to mate.
Having low standards just makes you a slut. It’s bad enough that people think we’re the ugliest women in the world, but to be easy on top of that doesn’t suit us well. If we’re going to be easy, we should be easy to the guys who are manly enough to be easily providing some security, protection resources, and hey, maybe even love if they can manage it for such disgusting creatures that all of us surely are.
Nature has no pity for the stupid, and since an ugly girl is still a girl, she should optimize whatever advantage that gives her.
I think plainer girls are sweeter. We have to be
Yes, there are. But if you want them to stay that way, you must apply a little game now and then.
You really think women are all that different?
They are all part of the same emotional smorgasbord. The only thing that separates them is their looks.
Yes there are differences. Some are more feminine than others. The less feminine ones shit test more I.M.O.
Au contraire. The more feminine ones need reassurance of their man’s worthiness more constantly and hence they test more.
I find that feminine women’s ‘shit tests’ are more cute and flirty. It’s like banter. Whereas more masculine feministy one’s tests are harsher and meaner as an extension of their cold barren nature.
Just assume all women do it. Besides even if you don’t have one…the world itself is one big shit test for all men. Either you sink or swim.
Yessir. This is correct. Most people sink and think its FANTASTIC to be bottom feeding. 90/10
…the world itself is one big shit test for all men.
Another of earl’s pearls…
Of course, the stakes of pass/fail in those other cases carry consequences far more dire than a piece of trim.
a shame that he is still a beta
you fags only find a counter-intuitive way to always try to have control on things
And CH knows this, even if he is an adult virgin. Only reason he posted this was for the praise the guy gave him.
No homo but you’re a fag
I don’t know what you mean. What’s counterintuitive about being logical and natural? And then you find you are in control of things. Try it sometime.
You are welcome to think I’m a fag too. Tell my wife, bla bla bla.
There is no “CH”. This blog is written by several different individuals.
It’s well written in any case, so I don’t really care. Since I don’t know their names and don’t want to bother with intrigue, I’ll just use “CH”.
I don’t think GBFM is a guy with a writing impediment who can’t stop bumping the l, o and z keys. I think he’s something like an English lit. prof. who is covering his writing style with all that nonsense so his colleagues don’t catch him writing for this blog. His writing is professional quality.
How do you know there are several individuals writing as CH? Do you know more about them?
How exactly is he still beta? The mindset in the relationship is unmistakably alpha.
Perhaps you’re referring to his oneitis. In which case I’ll just shrug my shoulders and say that game has different uses for different men – whatever his personal goal may be, he’s made remarkable strides with game.
After a woman has disrespected you as badly as his has I don’t think it’s very alpha to stay with her.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s good that he’s learned game & grown as a person.
It’s alpha to step back and decide, somewhat coldly. He should probably include writing down lists of her positive and negative attributes as a way of clearing his head.
Personally I took a step away and came back while I was dating my wife. It’s not commitment yet, don’t let her smooth you into skipping the choice step.
The Chateau has had a profound effect on me and, as the commenter writes above, has given me the way to return to the man I really always was. This is beautifully expressed – the modern world damages real men and does not tell us how to live fulfilled lives.
I’m now forty and my experiences of teenage years profoundly damaged me. The Chateau has done so much to realign my values and attitude and for that I am eternally grateful.
Maybe so… but have you bunned any ovens?
Don’t ask him about buns.
You don’t want the answer.
Alas, (yet) another jest… aw, forget it.
Damn… if true blood American don’t get your jests, what chance do I – a French Canadian – have of getting them?
what oven? why would they be burned?
American colloquialism for ‘gotten a girl pregnant’–the bun comes out of the oven like the baby comes out of the girl. You probably have similar expressions in French.
It was an homage to the inimitable Zombie Shane… one of his favorite exhortations is telling every white man to impregnate white women (“put a bun in their oven”), since that’s the only thing that truly matters if there is to be a white future.
Has he caught any leprechauns? Gold,Jerry,Gold!
so.. you game gays?
Oh God, the wit!!
Gay game is different from breeder game – I’ve always had rock hard gay game, always get the best, freshest ass in the house.
And it bears out a Chateau theory: when you succeed at sexual conquest early, ur own confidence does the work in future.
The gay scene is ruthless though but hard attitude can do a multitude
Note the hateful homosexual term for normal people: “breeders”. We are only meant to “breed” people that they can prey upon. Sick. Homosexuals are protected by the socialist media, and so they drop their masks and show their true nature, always hating the normal society they couldn’t make it in. Too bad for them that they are doomed. If the socialists they support manage to make the West majority non-White, homosexuals will be the prey, beaten and killed like in Iraq today. Ah, payback is a bitch.
Arbiter
. If the socialists they support manage to make the West majority non-White, homosexuals will be the prey, beaten and killed like in Iraq today.
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No they won’t. There will be a lot less of them and they won’t flaunt it; but they will still be around.
Nonwhite cultures have always had a place and purpose for homosexuals that functioned in support of the culture and the people. The key was it required a sacrifice. It was not something you chose until you graduated from college or a “phase” you were passing through…
The ancient Greeks and Romans allowed man-on-man sex, but you still had to breed kids so your city-state wouldn’t have fewer soldiers and get conquered.
Strikes me as a sensible compromise, actually.
Even back then, azz-f@ckers didn’t get the Good Housekeeping Seal Of Approval.
If there’s hate, you’re feeling the same, and why?
I have a simpler explanation for “breeder”: we can breed and they can’t. They want to make it sound a little bad, to assuage their feelings of helplessness at their sterility. We have access to the miracle, they are just creating skin on skin friction.
And some of them make a lot of money and could certainly have pussy. I don’t understand why they are gay, but then I don’t have to.
“”If we could survive without a wife, citizens of Rome, all of us would do without that nuisance.” So proclaimed the Roman general, statesman, and censor Quintus Caecilius Metellus Macedonicus, in 131 B.C. Still, he went on to plead, falling birthrates required that Roman men fulfill their duty to reproduce, no matter how irritating Roman women might have become. “Since nature has so decreed that we cannot manage comfortably with them, nor live in any way without them, we must plan for our lasting preservation rather than for our temporary pleasure.””
i knew all the PUA techniques before finding the chateau but its only when i came here and started reading that it all clicked and made sense. i could look back on the women i was with after reading this stuff and see it perfectly explained the dynamics of what happened.
CH preaches the greater philosophy behind game and sexual dynamics and really opens your eyes to the world. at first you get a natural tendency towards bitterness at life and women but after a while you just accept thats life and get on with it but with the self confidence that comes from knowing everything thats going on around you. i truly believe that men learning this stuff can literally save their lives
the writing is great too and can make for some serious laughs at times
Awesome story. I’d be interested to know how she reacts when he moves on, confident in his new Alpha attitude.
I was thinking that too. She’s definitely saying “I love you” strategically as a way of fixing him in place. Maybe it’s more emotional now, but it’s not his job to care for her. It’s his job to choose.
Tender feelings for a woman have no place pre-commitment. And commitment is marriage or at least engagement. Until then you’re just fucking around, preparing, still in an adolescent stage.
Even if you’re 45 years when you are doing it.
I teared up while reading this. An incurable beta I am, though the Chateau’s wisdom has been instrumental as well in putting my marriage on a far more stable footing.
And remember gents…a good firm swat on the bottom is just as good as passing a shit test with your wordsmanship.
Yes, agreed.
Ass slapping should be a daily ritual.
i like to paw the shit out of a dime piece out in public. works on 10 levels.
And gets the 8′s and below really mad at you. I am currently in that same discussion on thoughtcatalog and now a curvaceous (maybe just fat, no pic) woman is telling me that one must never touch under any circumstances without permission. As if results don’t count.
what’s an 8?
j/k
Early stages, I threaten to swat her ass. It’s a good gauge if she gets interested.
Always follow-through.
Nothing gets a chick quite as wet as a jolly good spanking from a man she respects and admires. That shriek when your hand makes good contact is her way of expressing deliciously painful pleasure at your dominance of her. That youtube video of the spank and pie in the face has been posted on here more than once, it may well be staged and has reverb added to the sound, but its still a first rate demo. I am an advocate of the spankological approach because it works. Don’t believe me? Try it then lay back and enjoy the beejes.
icon = woodpile + ax ???
Old Old Old School Game FTW.
Ancient School.
A big chopper skilfully employed also causes heavy precipitation.
This might be one of the good tests, if not the best, for judging her future wife-ability:
Does she willingly submit to a spanking?
If not, next her… I don’t care how many other tests she passes.
It is deeply comical how many self-described feminists on OKC are also BDSM submissives (admitting to want to be tied up in bed and so on).. I think it’s a matter of making their natural feminine instincts ‘subversive’ rather than ‘traditional’ so they can follow them.
Sort of the way CH can brand traditional views as ‘edgy’ and ‘controversial’ and therefore make them appealing to dudes frustrated with the nanny-state matriarchy. Rebellion against rebellion is reaction… and two negatives make a positive.
Interesting second paragraph. As a guy, perhaps I am in no position to comment. But I think there’s a lot of specific how-to information and war stories here, more useful than trying to copy behavior in old movies.
Also, that “traditional” stuff is heavily repressed now and kids are taught for years in school to think differently, so correcting bad habits is difficult but essential.
Man, between Viva Las Vegas (1964) and The Cincinnati Kid (1965), whoever had a more luscious presence on the silver screen than Ann-Margret?
Damn.
“See my whole thing is I know that this is true but it would just make me hate the bitch and want to get a new one.”
I agree. It’s like her slapping you in the face and you rewarding her for it by being alpha. But I guess from the female’s crazy biological perspective you have slapped her in the face first by being beta. OTOH female shit testing comes early on in a relationship when they are unsure of your alpha qualifications and need proof so…..god damn evolution!
No need for this “she did” “I did” stuff. Now you’re in better control of your life. So set your direction. Do you want this girl or not? Do you want to add a girl simultaneously? Do you want to marry this girl, or do you want to marry someone and you’re sure she is not it?
You have the right to do all these things, and I’ve found women never question it. When I dumped my old girlfriend I was trying to be polite about it, but another girl said “so you dumped her.” I said “yes”. And she thought that was totally normal.
Don’t retaliate, that’s so beta. Plan. Do you want her, want to dump her, want to date another woman at the same time? Think with your large head, you are the decider and can probably achieve what you set out to do.
retaliation isn’t beta lol. it’s the only entertainment one has when they have the health/money/blah blah thing down pat.
the crazy hot bitch challenge is the essence of life for the superior man.
Then you’re not being that rock she needs. It’s your choice — certainly if you’re not committed, you’re not committed, and a lot of men act committed too early, out of confusion, comfort or just because the woman you’re with sure won’t tell you it’s OK to keep options open.
Sometimes it wears me out and it’s less fun having to deal with whatever comes in instead of initiating so much, that’s for sure. Such is the committed life.
married over ten years until a few years ago and fully committed.
you can be both committed and need the challenge of a smart, haughty (ht CH) girl.
the by-product of winning at life (money, stuff, whatever) is boredom after say……30. this of course isn’t true if you are trying to stay out of debt/or build a career.
people at the top just have different problems. shrug.
turns out you can have enough money/success/stuff and get bored. married over ten years previously (to the same girl! “rimshot”) so ya i get it.
scratching out a meager existence is respectful, but lest just say that we all don’t have the same experiences
Then you’re not being the rock she needs.
FamilyMan, Tili is just on here to vent his bitterness toward women who won’t go near him. He is not doing any game. His posts are simply two-dimensional loser talk full of bluster. A picture of him would reveal an old, fat, ugly man snarling at his computer screen.
Well I don’t know about that either, I’ve found some good energy in them.
yikes.
like i said i would, i forgive you, ya poor wretch.
it must be hard “doing all that game” you do.
The Bard was onto this a while back:
http://www.online-literature.com/shakespeare/shrew/
http://www.sparknotes.com/shakespeare/shrew/section10.rhtml
Shades of my own life, my wife did require some taming. But it’s ongoing taming. Willie doesn’t get into maintaining frame and the nuclear escalation of shit-tests when kids arrive, which I think is why there are so many broken families even though everyone knows it’s awful for the kids.
My experience is that if you help guide her towards focussing on the kids’ well-being, pretty much to the exclusion of all else, then that can go a long way towards moving the relationship forward in a positive and constructive direction.
God help you, though, if you’re married to a filthy stinking cunt who would rather go out dancing and boozing with her galpals than, say, driving her own flesh-n-blood chilluns to piano lessons or swim practice.
I’m not sure how you’d go about taming a witch-whore like that.
In fact, if the serious maternal instincts don’t kick in when the baby comes out, kicking and screaming, then you’ve got a world-class disaster on your hands.
Maybe call her out on it? To her face?
“Wahh Waahhh Waaahhhhh!!! I wanna go to TGIF and drink some 99-cent drafts with the girls! You’re gonna hafta drive the kids to swim practice, mmmkay?”
“Uh, honey, honestly, afterwards, why don’t you just go home with one of your galpals and stay there with her. Forever. Our family could do without your poisonous attitude. It’s killing the poor kids. Just killing them.”
Something like that?
But I’m just guessing – I dunno how you go about “gaming” the pre-divorce positioning.
Just make sure that, when all is said and done, you get full custody.
I like how this story isn’t about a woman going crazy for a killer or even an asshole, but rather just preferring a guy who doesn’t act like a submissive dog.
for once…
I believe this is not the favorite website in your bookmarks.
It ain’t like that at all man. It’s just that red pill reality is so soul killing. Every time I see a hot chick go for what is universally considered a bad guy, a little piece of the good guy I’ve always strived to be dies.
I think a lot of people advocate overreaction, which does two favorable things:
(1) the way to break a bad habit is to overcorrect for a while, and
(2) to really feel you have permission for the right attitude and aloofness at the right moments, I find it’s useful to know the next steps that you’ll probably never take. Or maybe you’ll try them later.
+1. Srs.
Leonard of the TV shot The Big Bang Theory needs your advice. Desperately. In the last episode, with a record 20M viewers, Leonard is groveling to support and please his girlfriend Penny. The more he tries, the more he disgusts her. She wants to marry him, but she is waiting for him to act like a man.
” … the guy I’ve been for the last month since finding your site is the guy I have always been. ”
Concur completely. I would give partial but substantial credit to CH, it’s not the only reading I’ve done that has helped my head. But alpha is easy, it’s the other stuff that was hard. If you give yourself permission (soon it becomes automatic) to do what comes naturally, well that’s the ballgame.
And yes, I am still generating hatred and bewilderment over on that same ThoughtCatalog thread that won’t die
http://thoughtcatalog.com/brianna-wiest/2014/01/18-things-women-shouldnt-have-to-justify/#comment-1196614654
which is what the most natural sort of statements generate among that crowd. Fine let them enjoy me.
Kudo for at least avoiding divorce court in the future.
A tad OT but look what these bitches with too much time on their hands are up to. Now theyre debating if we should survive. What a shock the antagonists are a 1)Jew pig,as ugly as the Devil himself,and a 2) Irish pig old maid. Twas an Irish-Am feminst named Mary Daly who is considered like the Father of feminism or something- –who first elucidated the Genosex Theory:That feminisms ultimate goal is a queer world where men have been eliminated. Some sick shit. Man, women are so fucking stupid and worthless,goddamn. http://www.munkdebates.com/the-end-of-men
Try this link: http://www.munkdebates.com/debates/gender-in-the-21st-century
One of the ones saying men are obsolete is Maureen Dowd, a well established columnist in the NY Times.
Haven’t read it yet, but I assume it’s the sort of hypothetical argument like “Resolved, there should be no homework” that they have in school debate clubs. Everyone knows there will be homework anyway.
Notice the stupid idea was overwhelmingly voted down but that kept the title
We let them walk on us. We let therm walk on us. We let them walk on us. Oh shit they’re walking on us. We better stop this. Boom. No more feminism.
Seems they deleted the story. It must have been too revealing, and they didn’t want to get caught.
For the second link, gee, how did I know right off the bat Hanna Rosin would turn out to be Jewish? Unsurprisingly, j. Hanna Rosin is married to j. David Plotz, editor at the socialiste Slate. Who was put there by j. Jacob Weisberg. But there is no tribalism going on there, no, just a coincidence.
Maybe there’s something about the outsiderness of being Jewish that makes for a fiery feminist type.
–Hanna Rosin
These kind of people repeatedly denounce tribalism/nationalism practiced by others, but it is their own first law. And while Rosin gets married to produce more of her kind, she tries to make sure as few as possible of the sheeple will marry and reproduce. With hangers-on like the Irish Maureen Bridgid Dowd following her lead in order to get paid. Seriously, there are a whole lot of Irish becoming this kind of hangers-on. The hand is always extended to them, a standing offer to pay them to be front figures.
However, Rosin’s and Dowd’s “The End of Men” book is actually not the standard feminist ranting. It seems more of a plan to gain money by a catchy title and exploiting the feminist market, strange as it may seem. Because Maureen Dowd has also slammed Al Gore for being “so feminine he’s practically lactating,”
Hanna Rosin has also said things like, “As we get used to women in power, we are likely to discover that they behave much like powerful men – vain, entitled, always looking for more”, “I deeply believe that men and women need each other” and “If my own current husband was suddenly a stay-at-home dad, it would be emasculating. That would be hard for me.”
So these two, Rosin and Dowd, are trying to sit on both sides of the fence to make money.
” … I realize she is one of those girls that needs a guy in control, but if you’re not, she fucking hates you and the resentment infects her body like the plague.”
THIS APPLIES TO ALL WOMEN.
Of course, this may be quite obvious to the seasoned CH scholars in the ranks, but sometimes n00bs like me have to learn the hard way.
I spent part of my summer vacation with a lovely Swiss 6. Strolled along the beach, dinner at an Italian restaurant (thankfully we went Dutch). Physically, all we did was cuddle and kiss twice, every attempt I made at another kiss/escalation after that was met with “no… no” like fucking Consuela from Family Guy. Basically, after a certain point the tingles turned off and she was just using me to keep her company because her friends were staying too far away.
I even screwed things up further when I sent her a very beta email gushing about what a great time I had with her and how I looked forward to reading her blog and seeing more photos she took of her travels. Since I sent that, it has been complete and utter silence on her end, she’s even neglected her blog and flickr. That is, evidently, the disconcertingly malignant vaginal dryness inducing effect of betaness.
So what have I learned from this experience?
WOMEN CRAVE LEADERSHIP. They want a man with a plan, who knows what he wants, knows what he is doing and has the balls to take control.
DON’T BE AFRAID TO ESCALATE. She wants to be seduced. She wants you to persist through any barriers she puts up, BUT, if she really doesn’t get into it…
WALK THE FUCK AWAY! No more dinners, no more spending time together, no being her fucking girlfriend! Who benefits from that? NO ONE. YOU DON’T BENEFIT because of aching blue balls, not to mention the humiliation, SHE DOESN’T BENEFIT besides a short-term attention fix. DON’T BE AFRAID TO PULL THE PLUG!
No matter how sweet and innocent she may appear to be, DON’T BE DECEIVED! THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS! WOMEN CRAVE LEADERSHIP AND DESPISE BETAS!
I was the typical nice guy who obeyed all the rules I was taught, and I expected to hand a strange girl a flower and have her fall in love with me. I ended up with the kind of desperate marginally attractive chick who will do 90% of the work in making a deal happen. All I had to do was take half a step forward, and I finally got rid of my virginity, and ended up married with children within 2-3 years.
Our marriage worked for her with me the kind of guy who said, “You like sex, I like sex, why don’t we have more sex?” I always used to finish with, “Was it good for you?” I used to hope secretly she would figure out that I wanted her to cook lunch on her day off, and would cook me something I liked.
I didn’t change for her, I changed for me, because I always hated being that much of a pussy on the inside. I just had no idea how to fix it.
So now I get sex if I want it, and if she’s trying to get some from me and I’m not drunk enough or the lights are on, she doesn’t get any dick. Every time we fuck, when we’re finished, she says, “Thaaaaankk you!” with an exhausted sigh. She asks me for sex frequently. I tell her what I want cooked on her day off, and therefore I get to enjoy an edible meal I didn’t have to cook myself one day a week.
Even if you have one of the women who can tolerate someone as totally emasculated as I was, YOU will be happier if you gain possession of your own testicles, and she will be happier in some ways too, while also being sad at losing power in others. Oh well.
Like one of the girls I dated said, in reference to the way I am ruthlessly taking advantage of my wife for my own benefit these days, “Well, isn’t that exactly what she’s been doing to you all these years?”
Yes. Quite.
I wish there were a better solution than cheating though. Keep a personal assistant who pays me $40,000 a year who isn’t too bad to bang if I’m drunk, or pay alimony and live in a trailer next to a meth lab while I deal with bankruptcy proceedings.
My options still suck, but at least I’m making the best deal for myself I can, thanks in large part to CH.
> “aching blue balls”
Have you ever dated a seriously religious chick [let’s call her about an HB8+] who would get cuddly in bed, and allow you all the way to about second-damned-base, with your clothes on, but that’s as far as you were going to get without marrying her?
Some of the most intense pain that I have ever experienced in my life.
It hurt so bad that I couldn’t stand up straight for the rest of the day – I’d have to walk around slightly bent over so as to relieve the pain of it.
God, it still hurts just to think about it, all these years later.
I wonder if lesbians shit test each other
I guess the femmes shit test the butches
Hard to see how a lesbian, no matter how butch, could pass. This may be a source of the bitterness.
They’d have trouble nowadays because their masculinity, though lesser than most men’s, has been under as much attack as male masculinity. If a woman doesn’t know that her more feminine partner needs overt possessive aggression rather than passive aggression, she is just not going to do what needs to be done to provide emotional security.
Les. relationships are famous for blowups, often violent ones, and seldom last long. Women don’t get along and certainly cannot live together even if they are lesbians.
If you’re a femme and want a butch lesbian, won’t you eventually want a real man with a real non-plastic dick and male smell, male muscles, etc? Butch lesbians wish they were men — I guess I can understand that or at least assume it — but I don’t understand the femmes at all.
In my experience, butches are actually more likely to fall for, or at least feel affection for, men than femmes are. I know it’s counterintuitive, but maybe butches are more likely to be straight tomboys who were propagandized into lesbianism.
I could see that, actually.
The butch also has interests in common with men.
Looks like a woman needs to be alpha too, to keep the flame burning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_bed_death
ive never met a lesbian, only girls that have given up.
I think it’s a proven fact that lesbian relationships have the highest rate of so-called “domestic violence”.
Saw the link somewhere awhile back, too lazy to dig it out again.
One word: catfighting. lzolzozlz
Lesbians having the highest rate of domestic violence clearly indicates that their bitchiness which they expect us to put up with is simply unbearable to them.
once they taste their own medicine ( as lesbians would ) once they are the receiving end of constant bitchiness and relentless shit testing , they want to kill each other
no one can stand women, not even women who are into women
I will keep on calling them the weaker sex…and I am being polite.
This is a really good sub-thread. These are some great points that could and deserve to be explored further.
this post and it’s comments reminds me that CH is written for evolving Beta’s and not ascendant natural Alpha/Sigmas.
in realizing this i realize that i’ve been a little hard on Scray, Arbiter, Greatest Beta, MK, and some others.
i’ll try and soften it up.
mea culpa.
What a load of horsefeathers
There’s the part about just being the man and letting go the rest. That’s important and makes life much easier. But there’s technique to learn all along the way for those interested.
I believe in letting go of revenge. Maybe I’m Buddha. But it seems so simple, and if it isn’t what you would be doing otherwise, why bother with revenge?.
lol. quit making my points for me.
We’ll agree to disagree.
awesome. go read Confucious “the Doctrine of the Mean”. seriously. i think you will like it.
Go hard or go home.
June says you were a little hard on the Beaver last night.
thats “a liitle TOO hard” Greg.
no negro can resist a white syntax error.
No demerit, carry on.
Dude! I don’t write ‘em, I just report ‘em!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=you%20were%20a%20little%20hard%20on%20the%20beaver%20last%20night
Alas, (yet) another jest fallen flat!
From what you’re girlfriend has been saying you’re “softening up” a wee bit too much…
see what happens when i try to make everyone happy….that bitch.
Women can do CH, too, I guess:
http://chrome-fox.blogspot.ca/2013/10/the-best-rejection-letter-to-hopeful.html
[CH: The judgment of aging Playgirl harpies is irrelevant to the real world sexual market. Verdict: Not the CH.]
Comparing the prose of CH to the snark of that letter is like comparing Doeste-what’s-his-name to Matt Groening.
now goatse and groening……thats a comparison!
Once you move out of the mindset… you realize what a load of crap the link above is.
Saw this 50s, stout, short, guy walking with a funny twaddle … so many things one could be self conscious about. For 3 seconds social conditioning took over … but then I snapped out of it and realized this short, stout, twaddling guy could be picking up chicks just the same.
Like comparing F. Scott Fitzgerald to…Scott Baio
Let’s be fair now… to Scott Baio.
So charming the femtards think this stuff is outdated: http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/selling-shame-40-outrageous-vintage-ads-any-woman-would-find-offensive/
Of course they do!
They’ve got all their coloured boyfriends waxing lyrical about their “stank”.
Speaking of which, this has got to be one of the all-time best vintage ads:
Chase-Sanborn Coffee Wife-Spanking:
http://www.nwhm.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Chase-Sanborn-Coffee.jpg
“The story about the experiment with the husband and wife was especially eye opening”
On one had the “story” was a hoax. On the other, even a hoax can accidentally hold a grain of truth, which in this case, helped someone on the path of self-improvement. Should it be called Pious Hoaxing?
Tl dr: guy liked a girl so much he let her get away with shit behavior. Guy grows a sack, peace ensues.
Ch pats his back. The end
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@ Beta Man are you single ?
@ Betaman: another question, do u like Anime ? is my hobby :3 and i wonder if we could watch it together
“Tl dr: guy liked a girl so much he let her get away with shit behavior. Guy grows a sack, peace ensues.”
That is very true.
I don’t get it. This girl sounds like a codependency nightmare with emotional intimacy issues. If it’s this much work to maintain a relationship with her, why bother? How is this victory?
Next level would be to tell her to shut the fuck up, I know you need me get over it lets go have sex.
What happens when the guy in the relationship also has hurricanes of emotions?
Women are attracted to psychopathy.
Breakup. Heartache. Nutsack kicking.
If the guy has a hurricane of emotions, twat punting rather.
I’ve noticed a lot of dance music contains the death of pretty lies.
“Lana Del Rey – Young and Beautiful”
“I’ve seen the world, done it all, had my cake now… Will you still love me when I’m no longer young and beautiful?”
In which a girl hops off the cock carousel and asks her provider to assure her that he will give her the beta bucks forever.
–
Cole Plante with Myon and Shane 54 feat. Koko Laroo – Lie To Me
“Tell me that you’re the only one you think about when I’m not around.”
“I don’t want to know, what I already know. Keep it to yourself, leave me out in the cold. I want you to lie to me.”
In which a girl asks for hamster pellets from her guy.
–
Just listen, most dance music is realtalk.
1. H, thank you.
2. Please use the movie poster for the german film “Die Wand” (“The Wall” in English) in a post. The image is of a waller and her dog alone in the wilderness. Ironically satirical. +1. Thank you again.
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNjY3NjU0OTM2OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDQ2MDE1OQ@@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg
May I chime in?
thank you
*chime*
When it comes to “wall songs”, if I could only pick one, it would be this one.
“When I was younger, the boys all came around. But now Im older, and they’ve all settled down”
Walls and trees my two favorite things.
oops,
Eva kills it but
Buffy St Marie wrote it.
You know me, I gotta stay true to the game:
That’s hotter
In the TV show “two broke girls,” the girls claim to be okay “because they have each other.” This is more jooish propoganda encouraging women to be idiots and not have marital relationships with good men.
thwackster you’re so the rennaisance man;In your case I guess it’d be Da Harlem Rennaisance
“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident”
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Good for this guy He is still a chump imo.
Soooo,
being a chump,
… that’s an excuse for what exactly?
shhh, men are talking.
?
This is how Russians (Jews and gentiles) do
http://www.salon.com/2013/08/12/i_love_and_hate_dating_russian_men/
an angry feminazi tries to battle her End of Times genocidal desire for real men
which we taught them… they got the be barbaric part but they still white knight… true xtians
I like Russians— in Russia. Bring hell down on muslem pieces of shit;keep they womens in line;smack down the faggots;work the black market. Russians are cool! But when they come over here…not so much. Blood sucking assholes…
Diana Bruk… let me guess.
Next.
good to see you read zero hedge. then again, i suppose id be surprised if you didn’t.
It’s pretty beta to commit to any woman long term unless she’s the mother of your children.
This. Now that he’s seen that there’s nothing particularly special about her why not play the field?
What makes a woman special is that she belongs to you. Playing the field is great if along the way, you keep some of what you find. Don’t be afraid to own things. This is part of being wholly a man.
I keep a favorite girl.
I have a teddy bear
says the girl needing to be owned…
We all need it.
The hamster speaks truth for once. All girls need to be owned, with varying degrees of domination and pain required.
“If you ignore me, don’t need me, are self-sufficient, and slap me around, verbally, physically, and emotionally, it means you are strong enough to deserve to have your seed continue, and thus can have all the sex you want.
If you chase me, long for me, give in to my every whim, build your life around pleasing me, and worship me, I will take every possible advantage of you that I can, and drain your resources, but I will never stop looking or longing for a man that can dominate me. Without remorse or apology.”
Doormat beta here…
Is this the general order for the best-to-worst method of dealing with shit tests?:
1. Amused mastery
2. Verbal beat down delivered with anger
3. Meekly standing up for yourself
4. Doing nothing because you’re too afraid
5. Supplicating
When I get shit-tested by girls who I’m not even dating by the way I know I have to stand up for myself but I mostly don’t, and it eventually reaches the point where I start getting angry and ignoring them and when it finally reaches the boiling point I might blow up on them and defend myself.
I never want to start shit with them (like a total beta), so I never pre-emptively bust their balls about things. The pattern I’ve noticed is that they slowly bust my balls about things enough times until they reach the point of resentment and anger.
As a meek passive doormat who’s trying to change himself, do I slowly become an outgoing ball buster so women don’t think I’m an easy target? I get it they will shit-test me anyway but is this a good start?
“We grasp one ax handle to hew the other; and yet, if we look askance from the one to the other, we may consider them as apart. Therefore, the superior man governs men, according to their nature, with what is proper to them, and as soon as they change what is wrong, he stops. ”
ramp it up to 110 and dial it back. never apologize, hard or soft next.
Why don’t you quickly become a quiet ball-buster right now? Outgoing vs. quiet is slow to change and something you don’t even need to change. Changing to ballbuster is simple and even easy, and you already know how to do it.
When you get some sort of awkward question, stay calm, if something cleverly aggressive enters your head, say that, if not you can make a purely irrelevant comment, maybe a neg about her body or something.
Who needs a long list of stuff? The women are naturally attracted, all you have to do is not turn them off. You won’t get all of them, some are even in a committed relationship and have enough character to do what they promised. But you’ll get many.
You can pay me later.
yup
We don’t report, we decide.
Here’s an amazing thread about just how far a woman will go without demanding commitment:
http://thoughtcatalog.com/stephanie-georgopulos/2012/12/how-do-couples-become-official-these-days/
The post is boring, the comments revealing.
Dudes, make no mistake: google, which once had a mantra “don’t be evil,” is firmly controlled by the Cathedral now. Page one of youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/
(white guy/black girl interracial marriage promotion)
lzozlzozzozlozzoo like a white man would want a black woman.
Here are the options:
1. white or hispanic 6 or above
2. “professional services” from a hottie
3. porn
Black woman or woman under 6 does not make the list.
So pathetic. He had to read some blog to learn how to stand up for himself? Before his OWN GIRLFRIEND? How/why/where/when/what?!
Americans are self-absorbed neurotic babies. Every “problem” has a book, or a course, or a blog for you to “fix” yourselves with. Everything becomes a scheme, a product, a system. You don’t live, you manage your own fantasy adventure stories with help from “experts” and “professionals”. TURN YOUR LIFE AROUND IN 48 HOURS with the new patented ALPHA PACKAGE SYSTEM only 9.99 per month! Soon YOUR PENIS will be experiencing pleasurable friction inside a REAL WOMAN like those you see in movies! Just follow the infinite list of absurdly complicated, self-contradictory and ultimately useless advice found in our MAZE OF MIRRORS handbook/blog/dvd/protein shake/12step program and YOU TOO can prattle endlessly on like a woman about all the women you now talk to! (tee hee hee, and BONE! YEAH, SCORE!)
One day I’ll have big arms like lads on the front of Men’s Health! Then I’ll show ‘em! I’ll show ‘em all…..my arms.
and then… there is rape!