Readers want a word or two about the Daniel Tosh affair. Ok. Lessons from yet another sordid femcunt yeast explosion.
1. Never… NEVER…. apologize to a feminist cackling for your head. This goes as well for any -ist member tossing -isms your way. If you apologize, however snarkily, you embolden the smelly beasts. Mock them in return. Reframe the discussion. Or just shit in their faces. Anything is better, in this suffocating PC climate, than apologizing to the degenerate freak mafia. And guess what? When you give the enemy no quarter, they tend to sulk silently back into the shadows from whence they emerged.
1a. We’re at the point of cultural antagonism now, that even if you literally did shit in a feminist’s face, you shouldn’t apologize for it. Hold out your arms proudly and let the cops slap the cuffs on you.
2. A woman who voluntarily goes to a shooting range and complains about how offended she was by all the guns on display and bullet casings on the ground, and then demands an apology from the gun range owner, is an idiot who deserves withering scorn. Same applies for a cunt who voluntarily goes to a comedy club and then bitches about the comic’s offensive material.
3. Tosh is a funny dude. He’s also, perhaps, the most un-PC comic working today, save Adam Carolla. (Sorry, LouisCK, I suspect you’re really the beta you play on TV.) How does he get away with it? A friendly, approachable demeanor. A superficial naivete. A mischievous smirk. But don’t be fooled; the guy is a sadistic soul-shivver of the first degree, and that’s why he’s funny.
4. You can’t be funny repackaging lies. This is why feminists and other equalist foot soldiers are never funny. They traffic in lies, which contorts their faces into permanent sourpusses. The best comedy builds from a foundation of taboo truth.
5. Female privilege. Matriarchal power structure. Call it what you will, the fact is that women are granted certain exemptions in society based on their sex alone. And one of those, as GLPiggy notes, is the freedom to mouth off in comedy venues without consequence. Women know that the odds they will be aggressively shouted down by the comic or the audience, or even physically assaulted or tossed out, are far lower than they would be for a man who mouthed off in the identical fashion. Women also know that should someone go a little “too far” striking back at their idiocy, an army of undersexed, tool white knights will rush to their defense. Women definitely do leverage this advantage of their sex to be immune from serious consequence, although they will never admit it, partly because this leveraging happens in the subconscious and is thus inaccessible by their higher order thinking lobes.
6. Humorless shrikes. Is there any species of humanity more pathetic?
7. The US is going the way of Canada and the UK: real, free speech of the kind protected by the First Amendment will be dead in this country within our lifetimes. Bet on it. The only salvation now will come in the form of revolution.
8. Are women naturally hysterical, like toddlers, or do they fake it to enjoy the rewards of triggering the damsel-in-distress effect? Yes, and yes. No, bitch, Tosh’s jokes were not going to incite the whole room to gang rape you. Get over yourself and hie to a fainting couch. Now if you *really* want to feel gnawing terror, I know a few neighborhoods I could drop you off in at 2am…
9. If you’re an ugly feminist, no one wants to rape you. Sorry to burst your bubble.
10. Why do feminists whine on and on about rape? Secretly, they get a little turned on by thought. That’s what happens to your perspective when you have for company a battalion of lapdog beta males agreeing with your every insipid musing.
exhibit a: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU_3b2_33vI
Tosh is also a standup comic.
These should be the men most likely to deflect public attacks from hecklers.
However, tosh is a white guy, even though he MAINLY mocks white guys
that is NOT enough cred to appease liberal hollywood media types. Even though he is self-deprecating to the loathsome point of self-degrading.
Proof: Lisa Lampanelli says far worse about blacks AND women, yet she washes away her “sins” by first being female, then running Game on how she loves colored men.
White man? Tracy Morgan got a lot of flak for his comments about homosexuals.
Tosh is YOUR boy.
He’s made millions acting like a smarmy fag mocking mainly
*drumroll* …White Males.
For every one of your crazy monkeys like Tracy, I can google 3000 others who got away with the most outrageous shit imaginable.
Chris Rock, for one – google the rest yourself.
I think Tosh is lame. Dave Chappelle was overrated too, but generally much funnier. Still I’m glad he makes the points he makes; they need to be said.
Chappelle QUIT his show and fled to Africa: Because he himself didn’t “approve” of how his audience “perceived” coloreds were portrayed.
In other words: he quit because White People laughed too hard at his colored jokes.
So, there are “no points that need to
willbe said” that will be approved by a PC Comedy Central management team that censor even subtle nuance for its sheeple audience ACCUSTOMED to getting its news from The Daily Show.Tosh and Tracy are my “boys”? I don’t care much for either of them, but I prefer Tosh, who appeals to Dane Cook’s college age crowd. From what I’ve seen of Morgan, I can’t say I like what I see at all.
As for Chappelle, he describes himself as “maybe 80% comedian and 20% black.” When he saw the Michael Richards meltdown, he said to himself, “You can still turn’em around, Kramer!”
wtf is a Michael Richards
If you’re an ugly feminist, no one wants to rape you. Sorry to burst your bubble
I wonder if those freaks, alone with their purple saguaros, do have fantasies about it and call their saguaros by ra**sts’ names
they are perfect candidates for boudgangbangs .com. and yes, it is a fantasy
I agree with the message of this article. Never under any circumstances apologize to a feminist bitch. I have fucked sluts who claimed to be feminist that have asked me to spit on them during sex. LOL!! The mind of the average urban fuckslut is more depraved than the average celibate beta meta can ever understand.
Absolutely right.
IMO a big reason Tosh gets away with being non-PC is that he cultivates an air of mystery about his sexual orientation.
People wonder if he might be gay and possibly a member of a Designated Victim Group, which gives him the benefit of the doubt. It’s a clever bit of PC judo.
sordid femcunt yeast explosion
Ah. That’s why I come here.
Great post!
The reason you never apologize is because feminists are like attack dogs. Once they smell blood and once they sense weakness, they go in for the kill. Apologizing also alters your “frame” and send the message to people that you didn’t know what your were doing. When you hold the frame, people (meaning bystanders) might disagree, but are more likely to think “Well, we can agree to disagree.” It through making men apologize and grovel that feminists build consensus.
So never, ever apologize, and if pressed by someone and you need to say something the only response is “I can’t apologize for something I’m not sorry for.”
Even better: Joe Rogan punks bloated feminist warthog. Bonus: Punks beta brown noser too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lXUd7VxuSA
When in doubt, display defiance. The reliably Machiavellian female may not be able to distinguish bold defiance from solemn, unshakeable conviction.
I have used this on more than one occasion. The ultimate victory over this is complete and total internal frame control, no matter what she throws at you.
Good post. No wasted breath.
Can someone describe how you reframe a rape comment? That one is probably tough.
don`t reframe., tell her: hey don`t get the wrong idea; even rapists have standards
One of my fuck buddies is a Feminist. She complains about my male privilege in being an attractive guy. She also just admitted to having a rape fantasy something fierce. So you’re claim is true to fact from my experience
“She complains about my male privilege in being an attractive guy. ”
Smirk, and tell her you love every privieged minute of it….and so does she. She is turned on by your status. She wants it.
As weall know the fembots will complain about everything. I think the next time Tosh has to deal with a heckler, he will handle it without apology.
Nevertheless, I think the humorless mindset of the Jezebel crowd is beginning to wear thin on the patience of the rest of America. The overwhelming support Tosh got (in spite of his apology) is just the tip of the iceberg.
Patton Oswalt has the right response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea5FClfrQpg
Hey, chateau. You’d really like my book Bias Incident: The World’s Most Politically Incorrect Novel. I figure I can send you a copy for your review. Just email me if you want one.
I’m more worried about food and running water than free speech. There may be an attempt to restrict same, though the courts have been very very good on that issue to my surprise, but at the rate we are going the feminists and the rest of us will be lucky to eat.
However a comic or a jester never need apologize for anything. Its his and very occasionally her job to point out the offensive truth even when it hurts. A society that can’t deal with that is toast and will fall apart on its own merits.
For my money, Bill Burr offers the best insights on women out of all the comedians working today. You can find a ton of his clips on YouTube, but here are a couple for starters:
This guy’s bit about being a mother not being a hard job is gold! Gold Jerry!
Indeed it is:
Dude, this guy is amazing! I can’t believe I’ve never heard of him.
This guy was great. I belly laughed the whole time.
Also check out Joe DeRosa while you’re at it.
This guy is very insightful and explains things well to the proletarian mind. I could see him becoming a male version of Oprah with the right backing.
The outcry over this is probably the most fucked up, overwrought thing since that beta nerd who hit on that female atheist in an elevator that one time. When will people get that laughter does not equal approval? Just because people laugh at jokes about rape does not mean they are normalizing or approving of rape. Comedians make dead baby jokes, holocaust jokes, slavery jokes, etc all the time—does anyone really believe they are mainstreaming or approving of those things? To ask the question is to answer it.
If I could change one thing about this, it would be the 3rd cognitive schemas these people are still operating under—that laughter = approval.
Grow the fuck up.
And all this, of course, stands in stark contrast to when men are subjected to sexual violence. The cunt in California who chopped off her husbands dick while he was sleeping because he wanted a divorce? He was applauded by Sharon Osbourne and her fellow bitches on The View.
Laughter does not automatically humor either. I’ve laughed at many things that were not one bit funny, but extremely absurd.
As for apologizing, I just tell her she’s not qualified enough for me to take anything she says seriously.
– Hecklers have complained about “rape jokes” before.
Tosh shouldn’t have apologized.
Owned it
the only thing worse than a heckler is a comedian who can’t deflect a heckler in a funny way. i agree with this guy’s decision, but the execution was piss fucking poor.
the cunt says rape is sued to oppress women. is the stinking cunt aware that rape is vastly more common among non-whites,especially a certain beloved race ? So please bitch cunt,tell me in excrutiating detail,how black males are oppressing white girls. I really want to know,lol!!
sweet neck roll dude!
Shit looked fake to me. Anybody else get that vibe that that girl was part of the act?
I’m surprised CH hasn’t written about the recent Anne Marie Slaughter piece in the Atlantic. Everyone was talking about it a few weeks ago on public radio, Facebook, etc. What most disappointed me was Slaughter herself: a woman of obvious intelligence and achievement who couldn’t see what a reasonable high-school dropout knows instinctively: if you take a high-powered, high-profile job in DC, while you leave your husband and two children behind in Princeton, yes, it will be difficult to balance your work and family life. Instead of shrugging it off to the fact that you can’t everything, and there are only so many hours in the day, she chose to make this into a feminist issue. Only the most privileged of the elite, sheltered in an academic cocoon for decades, could summon such an arrogant position.
No kidding. I read that piece and thought, Where’s the revelation? But I think her attitude is generational. Younger women don’t have the same ludicrous preconceptions.
The one thing that hasn’t been brought up in the comments is the massive double standard. Guy makes a joke about male/female rape, and its an internet frenzy of spineless, easily offended, easily outraged idiots crying to burn tosh alive. If it had been a joke about male/male rape, prison bitches, or any other variety, it wouldn’t have been an issue at all. Because then there would be a male victim, and who cares about that? People would have just laughed like they should have in either case.
Rape is no laughing matter however…. unless you’re raping a clown.
And only a male clown, at that
I didn’t think “Vulgar” was very funny
It was just a poorly done movie.
*white* male victim
*dusts off hands* There. fixed.
Random – nice.
Sarah Silverman’s incest/pedophilia/casting couch/rape take on “The Aristocrats” in the documentary of the same name was hilarious. But it wasn’t quite as funny as Bob Saget’s version, which was frankly more incesty and bestial than rapey.
3. Tosh is a funny dude.
You’ve lost some credibility. The irony of this is that Tosh is not typically funny; his counter to her heckling was much more funny than the initial joke and probably the rest of the show.
Indeed, if feminists could actually get Tosh taken off the air, I’d say it would be the best thing they’ve ever done, even if it would be for the wrong reasons.
Apologizing is admitting that there is even the remote possibility that what you did was in some way wrong. Strongest frame always wins. “These are not the droids you’re looking for” shit.
I say horrible offensive things to people I’ve just met all the time…there’s a split second where they have a look of horror on their face because they logically know they should be offended but their frame is weak like most of society (since a strong frame makes you an “asshole”) so despite their slack-jawed gasp of disbelief I can see in their eyes that they’re looking at me to determine if they should follow it up with a raging rant or laughter.
The best comedians have epic frame control.
Examples plz?
I was at a wedding over the weekend. The groom was an old high-school buddy of mine, never met the bride before in my life.
During the reception I walked up to one of the cut girls there and said “Hey, do you know if the bitch in the white dress is single, ’cause I kinda wanna fuck her.”
YaReally’s right here. My frame is always that I know it’s wrong, I just don’t give a shit about the consequences. Amusingly, I very rarely suffer any.
South Park was pretty vocal about their God-given right to joke about Islam, do they do r**e jokes or was all that just an outlet for anti-religiousness with no real principle behind it?
They do lots of r**e jokes, but they’re subtle enough that they slip past the censors. (The very first episode was about Cartman getting an an*l probe by some ETs.)
You’re forgetting the episode about George Lucas where it shows him constantly raping actors from his old movies. All man or kid-rape, of course, though. But maybe they’ll respond to this Tosh thing. They usually take direct aim at recent controversies.
I suspect South Park will make fun of this Tosh thing when the next season begins, probably with the same approach they took to making fun of Family Guy and the Mohammed cartoon. They’ll make fun of how unfunny & horrible a comedian Tosh is (maybe the kids will go to see a Dane Cook show) and then he’ll say the word rape and some ugly chick in the audience will scream for dear life; she’ll roll on the floor with her legs wide yelling “don’t rape me don’t rape me don’t rape me!” while the audience watches her in silent disgust, mouths agape. Backstage, Tosh will ass-rape Cook, etc. etc.
@PUA_Rochester
“Can someone describe how you reframe….”
First and foremost, comes the comment, usually uttered by an ugly troll who thinks she is being brave by blurting out some socially acceptable bitter fembot boilerplate. You will probably be hit from left field with a piece of righteous indignation that sounds like any one of these numbers:
“That kind of joke is never funny.”
“That happened to my sister last year, so you had better think again before you open your mouth”
” [x] in [y] stands a chance of having that happen every year, and this is not funny.”
“I’m not laughing, and you need to shut your mouth now, little boy.”
“What if it were you, tough guy?”
(Non) Option 1: Apologize
Really? Other then letting a bunch of your delicious beta blood into the water, and inviting the shrewshark to continue to do what it does best, you have let a bit of the soul of comedy die in this country.
(Piss-Poor) Option 2: Intellectual Challenge
This is where you try to run Paul Elam Game by using your own statistics and reason to change the drunken cow’s fevered mind and mindset at 1:35 in the morning.
Good luck with that.
(Mediocre) Option 3: “As ugly as you look, you have nothing to fear.”
This option is based essentially on the premise that the heckler has an underlying physical flaw, one that you can leverage in cutting down their complaint, by cutting them down. I don’t particularly like this option, because it sounds of pure sour grapes, and is useless if comment is coming from a six or higher, or if there is a six or higher jumping in on her behalf (with the attendant white knight support she subconsciously knows will materialize). That said, this option can be good for knocking one’s fuglier opponents off balance.
(Better) Option 4: Ignore/Change the subject
The setting where this functions best is when you are in control of the group conversation, and she is moving in on the circle. The idea is to keep plugging away at the conversation with the intent of driving the heckler away by disengagement.
This option is a better one but still not optimal because:
A. You may be dealing with testosterone and alcohol infused Triple B spoiling for a fight and ready to hassle your (and if she’s hot enough, sic her entourage on your) defiant arse until you repent.
B. You may be trying to run game on part of her group, and the last thing you want is a zealous block ruining the evening for you.
All the above said, this option is most viable when you are right about to bounce to the next venue, because it requires the least amount of effort.
(Best) Option 5: Amused Mastery
As it works in Game, it also works in so many other areas of life. If you look at the way Joe Rogan and many other pros handle their hecklers, you will see a lot of this.
Act as if your interlocutor’s outburst was some amazing new insight, and ask her to expound upon it.
Express deep surprise at her assertions, particularly if they are things commonly held to be true. Inane responses are the best, because you want to get the rest of the group laughing (argument by social proof is hamster napalm) at your banter:
“But, I was told that’s how babies are made!”
“I thought people liked surprises…”
“That’s not what Father O’Malley told me…”
“But, doesn’t the guy in ’50 Shades of Grey’ do that?”
“By those statistics, Ben Roethlisberger must be exhausted by now!”
[at any mention or insistence of it being a “culture”] –
A. “But, if it’s a culture, shouldn’t we have cultural tolerance and understanding? What would Gandhi do?”
B. “A whole culture? Awesome! Do they have traditions, like special holidays and festivals?”
The angrier and drunker she is, the better it works. You want her to expend as much energy as possible and toy with her lovely little ideas like a cat would an entrapped mouse. At no point in time should you take anything she says personally or find yourself getting annoyed, angry or frustrated.
Remember, service with a smile.
The “culture” bit is gold. Turn their own righteous indignation right against them. Biggot lickspittles.
The only reason why Tosh apologized was because he had a show that he didn’t want to lose. Same with Tracy Morgan. I don’t care how alpha it makes you look, when it’s a choice between apologizing and getting fired from a multi million dollar gig I’ll choose the latter.
And Louis C.K is obviously a beta. He has a bit about his wife yelling at him for not turning the dish washer on for christs sake.
Tosh is actually not that funny. His show is extremely dumb and uninteresting- a bunch of YouTube clips with snarky commentary. Sort of “America’s Funniest Home Videos” adapted to the Comedy Central demographic. Real cutting edge. I haven’t actually seen his stand-up which may be better, but I doubt it. Comedy Central does have its serious misses from time to time (anyone remember Demetri Martin? Picked up on the wrong side of the quirky-hipster media-lifecycle curve. Didn’t take).
That said, the idea that the best comedy comes from transgression, or breaking taboos, is obviously true. I understand why the woman was offended but she was foolish to make a self-involved and unnecessary drama out of it.
A second-order take on this sort of thing was South Park’s episode on the Michael Richards thing- in which the white guys marked as racists saw themselves as the victims. Some truth to that as well, though the South Park guys mainly mocked the idea as self-serving.
Actually Tosh was quite funny on his CC show. Not always, and it did begin to grow stale after awhile (for me), but he hit with adequate regularity for a while there.
You just can’t give credit where credit is due because you’re a man and he’s a man and it would pain you do to that.
Louis CK’s on-stage character is a beta, yes. Always a good comic frame, betas are funnier than alphas (otherwise alphas wouldn’t mock them). But he invented a whole new ticketing method for his shows and for selling his DVDs/show streams, and is the go-to-guy for button-pushing material since George Carlin died. I give you, among many examples, his routine on unabashedly using “nigger” in a bit (punctuating it with “cunt!”). Even Chris Rock, who despite his cussing takes more conservative positions than you might think, approves.
“Shopping for shoes has emerged as a powerful means by which women assert their autonomy,” Klein said. “Owning and wearing dozens of pairs of shoes is a compelling way for a woman to announce that she is strong and independent, and can shoe herself without the help of a man. She’s saying, ‘Look out, male-dominated world, here comes me and my shoes.’”
http://www.theonion.com/articles/women-now-empowered-by-everything-a-woman-does,1398/
Don’t miss this:
Perhaps most remarkably, the mere act of weight gain is now regarded as a feminist act. Though some women express reservations about the negative impact of obesity on one’s health, overweight women display a level of assertiveness, or “sassitude,” that thinner women lack.
“Women who proclaim themselves ‘large and in charge’ refuse to be bound by traditional notions of beauty and health,” said Carla Willets, a Vassar College women’s-studies professor. “They love themselves for who they are, something no ‘normal-sized’ woman could possibly do.”
“Of course, women can be empowered by losing weight, too,” Willets added. “Pretty much any change in weight—up or down—is empowering.”
It is possible – just barely – to be this side of sanity and argue that a woman who is overweight thus shows that she does not care what men think. OK, I don’t care what a lot of women think either. But it has nothing to do with my BMI.
However, a statement like ““They love themselves for who they are, something no ‘normal-sized’ woman could possibly do” is pure drivel, not supported by a scintilla of evidence, and is utterly implausible. Further, the “loving oneself” (regardless of gender) is meaningless at best, and more likely a call to narcissism – as if we didn’t have enough of that already.
Thor
It’s the Onion, it’s a satire site.
One of Tosh’s funnier moments about women.
I always tip well with my husband’s money.
If they’re still good, save him some retirement cash: Flash your tits.
Better yet, pilfer hubby’s tip money – raid the tip jar
Get those puppies uplifted
rename it the
Tit Jar
Heart! You said ‘a little turned on’ in point 10. You meant ‘obsessed’.
“The US is going the way of Canada and the UK: real, free speech of the kind protected by the First Amendment will be dead in this country within our lifetimes. Bet on it. The only salvation now will come in the form of revolution.”
Regretfully, I also can see no other way. My liberal friends cry, “Obama!, Obama!” and my Republican true-believer acquaintances follow with “Romney, Romney, he’s our man…” but fundamentally nothing will change either way; and our liberties, paid for by the precious blood of our fathers, who were better than we are, will continue to diminish.
I call for a PEACEFUL revolution, but it is clear that the Federal Government must be abolished. Please note that this is not an extremist nor an un-patriotic position. Notice, too, that I’m not calling for the end of America as we understand it. We will still exist, as will your beloved homeland of Texas, Montana, Wisconsin, Arkansas, etc.
“…whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness…” — Thomas Jefferson, the Declaration of Independence
Yep, Thomas J said it clearly:
“The tree of liberty NEEDS refreshing from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
Ain’t NO blood been shed in too long.
Problem is: You’ll have nothing but a bunch of whiny Brandons taught by their Government School Marms to revere MLK and Miss Rosa.
They won’t know jackshit about Jefferson or Patriotism.
All they know is CoD patriotism.
Stop being obnoxious. It’s very possible to revere both Jefferson AND M.L. King. The two aren’t mutually exclusive — in fact, they’re complementary.
To even compare A Founding Father to a whore mongering socialist rabblerouser proves YOU must be a product of Government Schooling.
How old are you
I went to private schools, Firepower. Clearly, we aren’t going to get along. Get back to me when you can think rationally.
Now you’ve done it, Firepower, you sociopath… you’ve made Jason, who-we-know-is-alpha-and-loves-to-fight-because-he-himself-told-us-so, stamp his foot.
Could you possibly BE any more of a dweeb?
MLK is to TJ as Marvelous Marv Throneberry is to Lou Gehrig
There’s no way… and I mean no way… that you were educated by Jesuits.
Name-calling. Incredibly outdated cultural references. Unfounded jabs regarding my schooling. Brilliant argumentation, Greg Eliot, just brilliant.
MLK learned to dismiss certain philosophies (Nietzsche) and adopt others. Jefferson similarly learned to dismiss certain philosophies and adopt others (French philosophes).
Jefferson on slavery: “But, as it is, we have the wolf by the ear, and we can neither hold him, nor safely let him go. Justice is in one scale, and self-preservation in the other.” – letter to John Holmes, (discussing slavery and the Missouri question), Monticello, 22 April 1820.
Justice for Jefferson: ending slavery in the Americas.
Justice for MLK: ending racial hatred in the hearts of men.
The two men have a lot in common. Hate all you want, Greg Eliot, but I rest easy in the knowledge that both men would’ve dismissed your hateful heart out of hand.
By the way, the Jesuit motto? “Men For Others.” (Pedro Arrupe, S.J.) Learn to live by it, Greg Eliot. It includes all colors.
But thanks for the comment. This alpha LOVES to fight. And try to make a cultural reference next time that’s less than thirty years old.
Ah, yes… the time period of the reference makes a huge difference to the argument… and Shakespearean or Biblical references (also replete with name-calling, I recollect) are even more obviated, I suppose.
You’re playing to a weak hand with your inane MLK/TJ analogies… just admit it and go back to your household cleaning, alfie.
Jason
Name-calling. Incredibly outdated cultural references. Unfounded jabs
Jefferson on slavery: “But, as it is, we have the wolf by the ear, and we can neither hold him, nor safely let him go. Justice is in one scale, and self-preservation in the other.” – letter to John Holmes, (discussing slavery and the Missouri question), Monticello, 22 April 1820.
Jefferson never foresaw the best solution, and one that worked: Eradicate the wolves.
That way, we don’t have to tolerate simpering approval for colored idols that spawned nationwide destruction of cities and prison budgets.
Yes, Jefferson clearly believed that the Negro was an inferior being and incapable of living in the society of the United States without causing grave harm to society. Keeping Negroes out of society or better yet the country was necessary for “self preservation”. Jefferson was also a proponent of individual liberty.
MLK, on the other hand thought that blacks were equal and wanted to the government to give handouts and special privileges to blacks. The two couldn’t be more different.
“Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people are to be free. Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them.”
-Thomas Jefferson
The quote(?) from MLK:
“MLK, on the other hand thought that blacks were equal and wanted to the government to give handouts and special privileges to blacks”
Well, I don’t know whether MLK really claimed that or not. But it is clearly
contradictory – as is much of modern politics. Why would
somebody who is equal get handouts and special privilges???
Thor
As usual, the only thing we hear now is crickets.
Scant satisfaction when the usual-suspect-useful-idiot-fifth-columnist types gets pwned..
Greg Eliot is unbelievably dumb. He apparently doesn’t understand the meaning of either the words “Jason is offline” or “the civil rights movement”.
Haters, listen up: King attempted to transcend race. King didn’t wallow in his skin color. THAT WAS THE POINT. Read his speeches again.
We can only speculate, but King would’ve been very wary of government handouts based upon race … since he wanted TO TRANSCEND RACE.
But it’s really, really hard to understand King’s point of view when all someone does is grind his teeth and think hateful thoughts about non-whites.
Thanks for the comments, though — this alpha loves to fight. And its’ good to know the haters on this website.
I agree. Fedgov sux. I don’t think the Founding Fathers intended it to be trying to run the lives of 300 million people and corraling them into Obamacare and whatnot. Unfortunately, all we can do is wait for the monstrosity to blow itself up on debt.
The US – and most of the Western world – most likely cannot be fixed as it stands. The moment more than half of the voting population think of themselves as dependent on the government for their daily bread, or at least for any emergency, the system has reached a tipping point. The only cure is to wait for the crash that necessarily will come. The details are unknown, but 8% deficit is not sustainable, not in Greece nor in the US.
What happens post crash is up for grabs. And yes, it could be worse.
Thor
The riich are equally dependent on government largesse, Thor.
http://www.nationofchange.org/five-reasons-super-rich-need-government-more-rest-us-1342445298
I linked to this in a comment to a previous post, but it’s more fitting here.
Oh yes, abolish the government. Like, next Friday at noon.
But after the air traffic controllers supervise my flight, after which my rented car (EPA pollution controlled, try Moscow air) drives me to my destination. Wait until after that, OK moron?
Yeah, I don’t know how trans-continental flights are able to happen at all without a global government. And come to think of it, isn’t the air actually worse in big-gov Communist countries? Idiot.
Subway Masturbator: An anarchist am I not. You have either misunderstood my position or are too fear-ridden to see any other way except through the dominion of the D.C. Empire. As far as the EPA is concerned, realise that every one of the 50 several states have their own environmental quality divisions that would function quite well, and perhaps even better, without Federal interference.
Jason: I’m afraid Firepower is quite correct in his analysis. “Dr. Martin Luther King” (a.k.a Michael King) was for the most part bought and sold by the CPUSA and the Soviet Union, as well as was a large portion of the greater Civil Rights movement.
Do Not
Be Afraid
“The mind of the average urban fuckslut is more depraved than the average celibate beta meta can ever understand.”
Women are swam ooze in a pretty flesh wrapper. Poo,rape,paedophilia,bestiality,blood, orgies….women are far more fetid, especially the gen y whores….worse than the worst isolated teenage male ne’erdowell.
These articles are interesting enough to read, but I really don’t get anything out of them. The ratio of game articles to feminists-and-beta-liberals-suck articles have dropped drastically in the past few months. More game would be nice. That is why we’re here after all.
Both of these subjects are related because both game and combating feminists have to do with not playing into a woman’s “frame.” In fact, I’d even say they both are about not playing into the larger frame society has set up for men via the media and the schools. It’s the gynocentric idea that women are somehow more moral and wise and men are to be treated like children who can’t behave properly.
This is what happens when you give females power. They bring to the table a topsy turvy sense of morality, where good is bad and right is wrong — or not — depending on how they feel and whomever their favored group or person is at the moment (with said groups being chosen by the media, which studies have show women are more influenced by than men). Hence, we now have game to combat the way females today reward bad boys over decent men and we have anti-feminism to fight the way they’re re-ordering society into being more about not “offending” special groups than free speech.
Our Founding Fathers knew all of this instinctively, which is why they didn’t allow women the right to vote. We’re not smarter than the Founding Fathers, and we need to keep conscious of all of this — which is why both the ideas you mention go hand in hand.
Yes, having the mindset is important, as it is the foundation for technique. I just personally think that there are too many anti-feminists posts. I meant I don’t get anything out of them anymore because I already have the mindset, and am more interested in the tips and techniques. Anyway, I’m free to skip the articles I don’t like.
Rather than depriving women of the vote, the correct way is to disenfranchise people who draw their sustenance from government, i.e. essentially net tax eaters. No representation without taxation.
Thor
I like it. Taxation would be in effect a subscription to the government.
Now, government by subscription would be fine with me. You subscribe to the services you want or need.
The next step would be to allow competition within the same geographical area, for providing all or at least most government services. And, guess what, they would no longer be “government” services, but services provided privately. We are now heading to the terra mostly incognita of anarchocapitalism. I would dearly like to see a few test runs, I expect there to be bugs in versions 0.1 and 1.0, but we would see if they were fixable.
Thor
If you actually watch a Tosh concert you’ll see his material is typical left-wing PC “the white man is bad” “women have it rough” Hollywood shit. He’s only “offensive” because he plays up how racist and sexist America is and then tries to show the attitude of the typical racist, sexist American. This kerfuffle was just another catfight of leftist vs. leftist. (See Girls for the previous.)
I’m tired of hearing about men not understanding women bullshit and that men need to be more sensitive to the “needs” of women. Screw that. How about women being more sensitive to the needs of men for a change. How about:
-When I get home from working a 12 hour day for a faceless corporation that views me as an indentured servant, I really don’t want to hear about your feelings or your day. What I need is a strong drink and maybe a blowjob. Oh, you aren’t in the mood? You certainly seem to always be the mood to spend my paycheck on shoes.
-Yes ladies, men do need sex more than once a month and want sex more than whenever “you are in the mood”. Wonder why your husband or boyfriend is cranky? Think about the last time you sexed him up. Wonder why your husband or boyfriend banged some twenty something on a business trip? Think about the last time you sexed him up. Even though all your friends will tell you differently, yes, it was all your fault.
-No I don’t want to split the housework 50/50 because some feminist in Cosmo told you that was “equality”. You work a 7 hour a day/5 day a week job at the HR department. I work a 12 hour a day job/6-7 day a week job doing real work. Use some that free time to scrub the toilet instead of brunching, lunching, and throwing wine parties.
It would seem to me that the disconnect among the genders is that women really don’t understand men and not the other way around.
Hey ladies (if there are any out there) have you ever thought that your husband/boyfriend had any needs such as the above?
There are women like this, they just can’t be found in America ~
Believe it or not, many women have crazy long workweeks, even if you probably would not think of it as ‘real work.’ My aunt, for example, works with premies and has to do 5 12-hr shifts a week…try spending 5 long days a week with dying babies and see how you like it. My best friend works with special needs kids in the inner city. In addition to 8 hours of dealing with several emotionally disturbed children (who have a tendency to be violent) each day, she coaches softball, attends meetings, contacts parents, corrects papers and plans lessons. And then goes home and does all the housework.
Plenty of hard-working women out there. And despite your little anecdotes, most do not spend the majority of their money (or their boyfriends’ money) on shoes.
Yeah, it’s easy to say “he shouldn’t apologize” but if he failed to kowtow, people would stop booking him, he would no longer receive invitations to be on TV interviews, and he would be reduced to selling merchandise from his youtube channel. The consequences of defying feminists are real. Let’s just be happy he didn’t have to pay a fine for his crime (in the form of a donation to a feminist controlled NGO, of course).
Freedom of speech will be gone during our lifetimes? Ever heard of Lenny Bruce? Men have never been free.
Isn’t every Louie CK bit him going on and on about white privielege? I saw a Slate article that said that his last show was about him having a homoerotic friendship with some muscular Cuban, and that the message was how much intimacy heteros miss out on because of their homophobia. From what I know, he’s a PC bot.
Did you watch the show or just read the slate spin on it? I think he made a valid point that nowadays it’s seen as weird if grown men hang around together with no woman around. It’s also interesting that in this PC society you can call a straight man a queer and a fag and he can’t get offended by it because that would mean he thinks there is something wrong with being homosexual. Just don’t call a fag a fag.
But yeah, while he doesn’t use PC speech he usually sides with them on most topics, interestingly enough he still portrays the loser type, a guy who does what society expects from him which makes his life miserable.
No, I didn’t see it. I can’t look at Louie for more than two seconds because of this clip. I can’t take antiwhite racism to that degree.
Well it’s no use debating it then if you haven’t watched it.
Is anything he says not true? Yes, white men get the shaft with regard to many, many things, but there’s still no better race/sex to be.
Indeed, I love being a white man. RA, that clip is funny. “That’s not funny” is what the twat feminist said that started all this non-sense and now you’re doing the same thing. “I’m offended”
There’s a reason “hysteria” and “hysterectomy” derive from the same Greek word root.
Don’t these women have ANYTHING better to worry about? Like the lack of clean drinking water? Or declining math/science scores?
There’s not a single famous stand-up comedian who remotely understands how the sexual market operates. And yes, Louis ck despite being a funny dude, is a huge fucking beta, at least in his relationships.
Such a shame, because stand-up could be a lot better with something more elaborate than those half ass witty insights about women.
Fuck it, everybody should be forced by law to sit his ass and read this blog for a couple of months. Tired of living in a world where nobody has a clue.
I doubt that a famous guy would need a lot of game insights.
They have the potential but they are misguided by pretty lies.
Listen to this from 1:45 to 2:20
Louis ck admits that he doesn’t get laid despite being famous, the equalist cackling female on the set indicates that you obviously need to be good looking to get laid. And louis ck approves and insists on that point.
Most comedians could swim in pussy if they were aware of their alpha potential, but they are for the most part wallowing in self-deprecating humor, and my point is that most of them don’t have a clue about what turns women on.
Even chris rock once said that women are “practical” when they are interested in him. They don’t wanna fuck him, they only want his money but they wanna fuck denzel washington. That’s stupid and beta. Anyone with chris rock’s wits, fame and game insights won’t ever have to worry about gold-diggers.
The movie “funny people” has a great bit about this. Seth rogan is a self-depracating fool and Adam sandler mocks him saying, “Don’t you ever want to get laid?”
Most of the movie is beta shit, though. Sandler gets one-itis but still bangs a bunch of girls. Best line is about Seth’s one-itis. His friend gives him two weeks to bang her or he will. Seth doesn’t do it and his friend did bang her.
Name an Adam Sandler movie that isn’t just a bunch of beta shit?
Besides, both louis ck, chris rock and a few others constantly complain about their sexless marriages.
That’s a beta dead giveaway.
Complaints from a comedian (about sexless marriages or anything else) mean nothing, except that they believe it is important to their audience, and thus worth making fun of.
Thor
Gotta say I don’t really give a shit if a comedian is alpha or beta. My concern for their personal life begins and ends with Are they funny. I laugh at beta dudes all the time, they are funny to me.
I’ve seen a lot of comedy shows. The betas who make fun of themselves are not funny. I cringe most of the time. The comedians who act beta but talk alpha are the best IMO. Contrast is king.
The black comics seem to get it. Patrice O’Neil most, but also Chris Rock and Eddie Murphy. And of course white comic Bill Hicks coined the term “Chicks Dig Jerks”.
Or they don’t say it in their acts because they’ll wind up like Tosh. David Brooks has been copying Steve Sailer for a while, but the last time he actually tried to give Sailer credit he was jumped on for reading white supremacists.
What about Jerry Seinfled?
Lol, if that was a joke it was really funny. If it wasn’t a joke, it’s even funnier!
I hear he scored during Schindler’s List.
Adam Carolla is the funniest guy out there. The most entreprenuerial too. Though his sidekick Alison Rosen has got to go, typical self-absorbed hipster chick.
I agree on Adam Carolla being one of the funniest, but I actually like Alison Rosen. Like Adam alludes to, she has some sense of humility even though she’s a hot chick because she was a former fatty. She does sometimes get too forceful to get in her 1 liners on some of the live shows though.
Yo CH good insight about how TOSH gets away with being funny and keeps notoriety but I think Louie CK is more of a legit alpha than TOSH. Seems like Tosh enjoys presenting himself as an androgynous drone. CKs standup is way funnier, and more sexual, he’s straight filthy.
Never heard of him, first vid. I clicked has him all pro-same sex ‘marriage’, which is about as unbrave and PC as you can get – prima facie he’s a libtard – I wouldn’t lift this guy up as some kind of paragon. If you’re not allowed to look at the body and procreation as signs with natural meanings and derive norms from that givenness – then I suppose it is the rich and powerful who’ll tell us right from wrong. Brave? comedians telling us to be made more in the image of the machine?
Read CS Lewis’ ‘Men without Chests’. This is what $$ and liberalism intends.
Well he has a nice bit about hitting women. But of course if you aren’t against abortion and fags and don’t jack off into a gun every night while reading the bible you are the reincarnation of Marx.
My chick roommates caught me beating off onto a gun. I told her it was because her tits were too small for me to use them.
Hey, foreigner: at least Americans STILL HAVE guns
and didn’t give them up because some imperial dictator made his slaves wet themselves while rushing to surrender them.
You’ll enjoy your slavery because,
as you write, you ‘support fags’
Sounds really
icky
Yeah, that’s the big joke of the hypocrisy of all these “edgy” entertainers.
For all their bold puffery, they only bete the PC-approved noirs.
Probably should have posted this on the liberal men and fat chicks thread, but Michelle isn’t rotund enough. http://hoopmixtape.com/2012/07/obamas-refuse-to-kiss-on-kiss-cam-get-booed-at-usa-basketball-game/
“Humorless shrikes. Is there any species of humanity more pathetic?”
That’s an extremely difficult question.
7. The US is going the way of Canada and the UK: real, free speech of the kind protected by the First Amendment will be dead in this country within our lifetimes. Bet on it.
That’s pretty obvious to the wisest …AND most prudent of thinkers.
The only salvation now will come in the form of revolution.
If you truly believe so -and do not throw that word around lightly – why do you blindly support purveyors of The Daily Outrage!©
(albeit, the smartest, most elegantly written TDO)
but a shit sandwich on brioche Artisan Bread
spread with Free Range Mayonnaise
is still a shit sandwich.
More thoughts: forget the apology; at the time Tosh had no choice, as the Godfrey clip shows. And Ms. Marcotte can’t have it both ways: Louis CK is OK but Tosh promotes rape? How do we know? Where is the actual exchange?
Aha, there isn’t one. No one taped it. So we just have the “word” of the offended customer as to what the gag was about, and of course she’s impartial and accurate. (Lenny Bruce, when arrested, was not confronted with tapes of his shows, but with the cops doing bad takes of inaccurate transcripts of what they thought they heard; Bruce complained he was being convicted because of bad joke delivery by the cop witnesses).
Also, alone among everyone in North America, the complainer claims she does not know that comedy clubs are shows (in a pig’s fuckin’ eye), and that she can engage in a Socratic dialogue with the entertainer if the material offends her political sensibilities. Or it’s OK for her to interrupt (but nobody else) because it’s about womanhood? That’s what Marcotte seems to say. What if Tosh were doing dead baby jokes (which he would) and a pro-lifer took umbrage? More Socratic dialogues? Is this what the audience paid $50 to see? Not the comedian but your interruption of the act?
“Amused mastery” is the ticket, that’s why the Patton Oswalt cell-phone bit is a classic. The two women think they can flip him off, but he rags on them for a good eight minutes, chortling how he is happy they are willing to make such an expensive cell phone call during a show they paid to see, and he is his buying drinks with their money.
Compare and contrast Michael Richards: he had no comeback heckler material – no Game! – and thus reverted to shock racial slurs. Though many condemned him for that, his real sin was not being a pro, and not being ready to handle hecklers of whatever stripe with aplomb.
If you want to upset a comedian – and you can – the most effective tactic is a walkout. It bugs them. I saw two people walk out of a sold-out Lewis Black show and it flummoxed him for a good three minutes while he tried to make sense of it. Or, as noted above, ask for a refund – they legally don’t have to give it but they might toget you out of there.
That Patton Oswalt bit sounds awesome. He can be brilliant, despite his stature (or maybe because of it).
Cat Williams is a good one too. I like Tosh’s racial humor, but he’s too “gay.”
You just rip into people for being the shitheads they are, guy are girl you don’t apologize for someone shitting in YOUR pillowcase.
It’s a crime being a man nowadays.
“Feminists and comedians are natural enemies because they can’t take a joke.”
-Louis C.K.
Q: How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: You know, IT REALLY ISN’T FUNNY!
or
Q: How many women with PMS does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: WHO CARES!!!!!
Thor
I’m a woman and I get baaaaaad PMS. It really sucks as it takes quite the toll on the emotions. Definitely hardest part of the month, the second hardest is that damn period time, which bring on the ‘kill me now cramps’ and the ‘oh, i wanna die because my back is in sooo much pain’. The best part of the month is 12-15 days after the bleeding stops! It’s like a rainbow is shining in the sky for the entire 12-15 days. Out of an entire month 12-15 days of bliss and…ahem…super horny thoughts. The rest of the time it really sucks being a woman because it’s so hard keeping those emotions regulated.
Women who experience bad PMS need a hug, not be put down.
Just sayin’!
I am pretty good on hugs, even if some think it beta behavior.
Consider yourself hugged!
Thor
That’s awesome!!!!
Women who experience bad PMS need a hug
isn’t that what beta orbiters are for?
“Women who experience bad PMS need a hug, not be put down.”
Well, it sure as hell would help if they would own up to their behavior instead of blaming it on the men in their life. A simple “sorry, it’s my hormones” would go a long way. I’ve NEVER heard a woman do that.
As some have already said, and most of you know, it’s funny when a man gets r*ped. No one gets offended or goes whining on their blog about how offensive it is to make jokes about r*pe then.
Some serious blue pill double standard bullshit there.
Interesting and balanced opinion piece, written by a woman.
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/dont-let-the-prudes-deprive-us-of-the-spice-of-sexual-banter-20120717-228cs.html
unrelated, new study reevaluating claims from the bell curve. interested in your thoughts http://www.danielwillingham.com/1/post/2012/05/the-latest-on-intelligence.html
Depends on how you look at it. Technically its a solid argument; apologizing = beta. Tosh apologized to keep his money. Money equals power and status. That’s just entertainment game and even after all this BS dude can still pull more cooze than anybody claiming he’s not alpha.
haters gonna hate. people who think tosh isn’t funny are all from flyover country. there, i said it.
Well I’ll be…A derivative of the function of humor containing truth is that the lie tends to be humorless. Comedy is black market truth and feminism cannot take a joke. An indispensable Orwellian metric.
Why do so many of you think that any woman who is offended by the concept or direct threat of rape is a feminist?
[…] [Ed.: Oh man, that’s harsh! –No man, it’s Tosh!] […]
Sorry, LouisCK, I suspect you’re really the beta you play on TV.
No doubt.
I get the impression he knows it, mocks it but doesn’t know/refuses to learn how to change.
If you’d ever been raped, you probably wouldn’t think it was so funny.
That being said, you should know going into a Tosh show that the majority of the material will be highly offensive. I don’t think rape is funny, so I simply don’t offer Tosh my money or my viewership.
Exactly. “Breaking news: Daniel Tosh says something offensive.” wtf
Andrea
If you’d ever been raped, you probably wouldn’t think it was so funny.
hey I WAS RAPED
by a homely swimsuit model. Granted, it was by a local girl so it’s not like it’s some big DHV from an international type like miranda kerr.
I want to forget. so,
Q: How do you stop five colored guys from raping a white girl?
A:
If you’d ever been raped, you probably wouldn’t think it was so funny.
i couldn’t agree more.
last week i was at a club and picked up an hb8 and brought her home. the next morning, i woke up next to her and was like WTF!!!! she was more like a 3, not an 8!!!
so i tried to file a rape report with the police, but all they did was laugh at me! it was humiliating and hurtful. being raped IS NOT FUNNY and is not appropriate material for comedy.
p.s. the police did not take me seriously, but i found a lawyer who did and he is helping me sue the nightclub for having poor lighting which was a contributing factor to my rape.
This is how feminist logic fails:
If you make jokes about rape then you approve of rape = if you make jokes about x then you approve of x = if you make jokes about dead babies then you approve of dead babies.
Somehow, I don’t see people clamoring to kill babies or celebrating the death of babies, even though there are cottage industries of dead baby jokes.
From what I’ve seen, Tosh’s jokes about white people are pretty weak. He goes after the usual cliched stuff, like southerners, rednecks, that black people are better athletes than whites, safe shit like that. It definitely comes off as cover for his jokes about blacks and others, which are often razor’s edge and cut close to the bone.
From my observations about Tosh, and of course he’ll deny this to death, but it’s not just comedy. He’s not “using cutting mockery to ridicule racists and sexists”, or edgy non-PC for laughs.
He means every word he says about black people and women. He is not a feminist and he is not a “progressive liberal”. That’s right Tosh, you know it too.